00:01:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:04:34 cunning 00:07:36 PleasingFungus: refactorings aren't features, psh :P 00:07:53 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07:54 refactorings cause bugs :) 00:08:09 I don't think I've ever done a refactoring without introducing at least one bug 00:08:24 my refactorings fix at least as many bugs as they cause ;) 00:09:04 what, like the message for tripping into a shaft? 00:09:05 -!- dpeg has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:09:41 yes. 00:10:08 build finished, testing 00:10:08 critical bugfixes... 00:10:22 wait, no i cant test :( 00:10:32 ? 00:10:33 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3833-g8a64a7f (34) 00:11:13 yes i can 00:11:38 it works! 00:11:42 _You have reached level 2! 00:13:00 congrats :) 00:13:14 going to go take my elf to d:15 00:13:21 ain't no stopping this 82 hp murdertrain 00:14:40 ??quickblade 00:14:40 quick blade[1/2]: (short blades; +6 acc / 5 dam / 0.7 base delay / 0.3 min delay). Ultra-fast short blade. Doesn't chop hydra heads. 0.2 min delay with haste/finesse. Quick blades cannot have the speed brand. 00:14:52 ??quickblade[2] 00:14:52 quick blade[2/2]: Because of insanely fast attack speed, you may add pain and electrocution brands to your wishlist. 00:15:01 ??rapier 00:15:02 rapier[1/1]: (short blades; +4 acc / 7 dam / 1.2 base delay / 0.5 min delay). A slender, sharply pointed sword, with an uncommonly elegant design. 00:15:25 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:07 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:16:19 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:17:06 I keep trying to tabcomplete crawl source files. How naive of me. 00:17:39 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:49 tab is not always the solution 00:17:54 (sometimes o is the solution!!!) 00:19:00 ??grunt[tagb 00:19:01 I don't have a page labeled grunt[tagb in my learndb. 00:19:02 ugh 00:19:04 ??grunt[tab 00:19:04 grunt[6/27]: Is not Gretell, despite what many zealous tabbers seem to think. 00:19:09 good enough 00:19:22 ??ugh 00:19:22 ugh ~ gh ~ ghoul[1/3]: Player ghouls have claws 1 (see {unarmed combat}), rN+++, rC+, poison and torment immunity. They also rot over time. Eating chunks can cure rot and/or restore HP. Monster ghouls are quite powerful, have a ton of HP, and rot you. 00:19:23 <3 00:19:24 !send Grunt more crashes 00:19:24 Sending more crashes to Grunt. 00:19:34 !send crash.cc PleasingFungus 00:19:35 Sending PleasingFungus to crash.cc. 00:19:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 00:20:39 ??pleasingfungus 00:20:39 pleasingfungus[1/20]: oops 00:20:46 ??pleasingfungus[2 00:20:46 pleasingfungus[2/20]: a misleading learndb dev entry ????? 00:20:47 <3 00:23:00 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 00:36:08 so if i make dowan go insane, duvessa becomes hostile. should dowan become hostile when frenzy ends, or whatever duvessa is at that time? 00:41:20 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:41:39 B1inky (L12 OpAK) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Lair:8) 00:41:46 |version 00:41:46 trunk: 0.16-a0-3832-g18ec49b; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2 00:43:13 ah not rebuilt yet 00:45:59 -!- Vizer_ is now known as Vizer 00:56:03 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:57:46 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 00:58:51 well, I think the former is what's better, so I'm going with that in my patch 01:09:09 -!- Ipsum_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:10:14 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:10:55 -!- dorianmode has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:13:07 -!- sonvenquen has quit [] 01:14:15 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:16:07 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:17:26 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:19:27 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:24:33 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:50 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:16 -!- eternal_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:28:29 bug 01:28:33 I reflected an attack 01:28:39 did not get okawaru piety from it 01:28:50 come on thats a worthy kill 01:30:07 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:31:37 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 01:33:21 Ecumenical altars 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9454 by godzilla 01:33:22 Stick (L10 DEFE) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Lair:1) 01:34:53 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:58 Stick (L10 DEFE) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Lair:1) 01:38:39 Stick (L10 DEFE) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Lair:1) 01:39:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:41:04 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 01:41:40 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:42:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:43:48 ??rebuild 01:43:48 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 01:44:22 doesn't look like cxc got rebuilt 01:45:55 -!- maha_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:46:27 -!- kaiza has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:46:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:52:50 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:57:51 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 01:58:23 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:59:35 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:05:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:43 !tell bloax Thanks for the spider walls. I'll put them in when I get a chance (assuming roc doesn't beat me to it). 02:07:43 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let bloax know. 02:11:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:13:19 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:18:17 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:20:39 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:38 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3833-g8a64a7f (34) 02:26:15 -!- therealfakemoot has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:27:49 -!- UbAh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:31:19 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:32:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:55 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:42:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:42 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:02:49 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 03:08:04 Experience % until next XL level stuck at 0% 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9455 by Gorice 03:08:37 Gorice (L20 DgWn) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Elf:3) 03:12:05 Gorice (L20 DgWn) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Elf:3) 03:14:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:19:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:21:44 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:09 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:22:31 Absynth (L15 MiGl) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Shoals:2) 03:24:16 Absynth (L15 MiGl) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Shoals:2) 03:25:39 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:25:55 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:32:43 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:03 -!- Kramell has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:36:13 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 03:38:19 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43:34 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:44:16 abixa (L16 OgHu) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Swamp:1) 03:44:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:44:55 abixa (L16 OgHu) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Swamp:1) 03:45:30 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:01 abixa (L16 OgHu) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Swamp:2) 03:54:25 -!- Pepe has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 03:56:58 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:59:15 abixa (L16 OgHu) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 05:56:55 %git HEAD^{/zig} 05:56:55 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3655-g786489f: De-scale exploration piety 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=786489fb3b6c 05:57:06 %git HEAD^{/zig}^^{/zig} 05:57:07 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-3291-g9854cb9: Redecorate ziggurats ever so slightly. 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9854cb95dbc7 05:57:17 %git HEAD^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig} 05:57:18 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-2756-g09ec9a7: Sprinkle around some shrikes (and other quick vault population tweaks) 10(9 weeks ago, 6 files, 20+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09ec9a7b38b8 05:57:25 %git HEAD^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig} 05:57:25 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2583-g77f51cb: Increase megazig lethality 10(10 weeks ago, 1 file, 23+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=77f51cb4a003 05:57:34 %git HEAD^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig} 05:57:34 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-2258-g2a7ae65: Edit zig loot mildly. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 9+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a7ae6531c3d 05:57:38 %git HEAD^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig} 05:57:38 07bh02 * 0.16-a0-1938-ga8c12d7: Don't mimic zigs (9147) 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a8c12d7d946e 05:57:42 %git HEAD^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig}^^{/zig} 05:57:43 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1701-gf5abbb0: Don't trigger some monster death effects on KILL_DISMISSED (#9001). 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f5abbb0608c5 06:00:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:01:15 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:28 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:32 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:06:10 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:09:07 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:10:21 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:11 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 06:15:28 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:15:55 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:57 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:20:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:26:04 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:26:08 -!- Pacra_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:09 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:57 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:41:40 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:42:17 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:42:44 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:43:24 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:44:38 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:46:56 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:47:33 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:48:13 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:51:32 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:53:20 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:54:08 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 06:54:37 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:2) 06:54:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:55:19 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:2) 06:56:38 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:2) 06:57:57 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 07:01:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:03:04 -!- Finwe^ is now known as Finwe 07:04:34 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 07:06:33 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 07:06:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:06:58 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:30 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08:40 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:56 -!- ldierk has quit [Changing host] 07:08:56 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:11:07 Game Crashes when i kill an enemy 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9456 by Meriados 07:14:01 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Spider:1) 07:20:29 Meriados (L15 HOFi) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. 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Use your powers wisely. 08:10:17 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:30 !lg devteam cxc s=name 08:10:31 53 games for devteam (cxc): 40x MarvinPA, 12x Medar, neil 08:10:40 -!- Basil is now known as Guest75611 08:10:43 is the King of Naps touchy when it comes to highlighting or something 08:10:53 -!- jiiam has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:10:55 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:46 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:16:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:59 Medar: please rebuild cxc 08:20:56 -!- dididi has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:48 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:23:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:24:19 k, started 08:25:03 if you make an account, I can give you rights 08:28:28 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674: Fix ghostly unique milestones. 10(7 hours ago, 4 files, 24+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=51c86742b2b4 08:29:07 -!- cAZrakRAJ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:29:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:30:42 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:31:20 elliptic: thanks :) 08:32:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:33:38 ??rhf 08:33:39 rhf[1/2]: Used to be a Finnish server. Isn't anymore, but used to not be, too. ssh rl@rl.heh.fi , or visit http://rl.heh.fi:8080/ for webtiles. 08:34:28 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674 (34) 08:35:08 ??cxc 08:35:08 cXc[1/2]: Server in France: CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM -- ssh port 22, username crawl, uses CAO key (available at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/keys/). Webtiles address: http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM 08:35:19 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:37:41 also adding a milestone for slimify while I'm at it since the code is very similar, but I'm waiting to push until I'm sure sequell will handle it properly 08:40:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:40:42 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:41:15 !tell pleasingfungus thanks for de-breaking things for me. I'm confused about max_xl not getting initialized too . . . 08:41:16 Lasty_: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:42:27 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:45 ??epic_bugs 08:46:46 epic bugs[1/24]: if (you.religion = GOD_XOM) 08:47:02 !learn add Gaining levels causes a crash. 08:47:03 Gaining[1/1]: levels causes a crash. 08:47:10 !learn del gaining 08:47:11 Deleted Gaining[1/1]: levels causes a crash. 08:47:18 !learn add epic_bugs Gaining levels causes a crash. 08:47:19 epic bugs[25/25]: Gaining levels causes a crash. 08:47:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:47:36 Does anyone know if PF rebuilt the servers after pushing his fix? 08:47:54 some say PF is still rebuilding the servers to this day 08:48:00 lol 08:48:03 yes, all but CXC (which medar just rebuilt) 08:48:03 Good answer 08:48:09 sweet 08:48:25 looks at the logs for some nice crashspam :P 08:52:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:56:45 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:57 search github for "Lasciate ogne speranza" -> 90% of the hits appear to be from crawl forks 08:59:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:59:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:02:02 *snrk* 09:03:16 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:11:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:12:48 ...and it's not even in the code. 09:15:28 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:16 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 09:18:47 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:23:26 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:24:54 hello. how can i build dgl? i've got this error with "make virus=1" http://pastebin.com/1RcKLfif 09:25:19 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:12 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:31 -!- namad8 has quit [] 09:35:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36:41 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:38:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:38:19 -!- cykeltillsalu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41:23 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:44:20 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:45:14 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:45:30 sweet feature freeze now I have time to write the things that motivated that refactoring before 0.17 09:45:33 without feeling silly 09:48:39 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:48:59 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:12 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:55:53 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:56:12 dididi: you need the compile-time ncurses package for whatever distribution you are on 09:56:19 the runtime package is not sufficient 09:56:26 see the INSTALL.txt 09:57:09 okay. thanks. i'll check about it. 09:57:37 it is also possible that it needs an extra -I option if the ncurses package on your platform hides curses.h in a subdirectory, there are some Makefile tweaks concerning that 09:57:40 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:10 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:00 i can not fild any install.txt here. https://github.com/greensnark/dgamelaunch-crawl is there any link for this? 09:59:18 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:59:22 install.txt from the source I tihnk 09:59:24 think 10:00:40 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:52 dididi: also, I think green.snark's dgamelaunch stuff isn't as recent as this one: https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config 10:00:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:01:57 and https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch which are both referenced from the wiki at: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=setting_up_dgamelaunch_and_webtiles 10:03:06 dididi: and for an incomplete docker example: https://bitbucket.org/TZer0/crawl-docker 10:03:16 (it works, just not optimally integrated) 10:03:58 oh.. there is a docker example. that's nice 10:06:22 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:55 dididi: the docker example uses dgamelaunch too 10:07:07 and has a server bot 10:07:39 yes. and looks almost done. looks good. 10:10:00 dididi: check out (the very very quiet these days) ##crawl-admin 10:10:27 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:11:37 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:47 oh thanks. i even konow that is existence. 10:11:58 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:24 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:24 ketsa (L18 DEEE) ASSERT(you.experience_level == you.props[MAX_XP_KEY].get_int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed. (Vaults:1) 10:13:31 uh oh 10:13:36 !crash 10:13:37 10499. ketsa, XL18 DEEE, T:76354 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/ketsa/crash-ketsa-20150129-161208.txt 10:14:25 !lm ketsa 10:14:26 6676. [2015-01-29 16:12:08] ketsa the Eclecticist (L18 DEEE of Vehumet) ASSERT(you.experience level == you.props[MAX XP KEY].get int()) in 'player.cc' at line 3484 failed on turn 76354. (Vaults:1) 10:14:42 I thought eksell got rebuilt? 10:14:44 !source player.cc:3484 10:14:45 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player.cc;hb=HEAD#l3484 10:14:50 oh you fixed it 10:14:54 Nothing new to install at the moment: you asked for 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674 and it's already installed, aborting. 10:14:55 PF did 10:14:59 &version 10:15:07 *: 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674 10:15:14 Version: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.16-a0-3832-g18ec49b 10:15:18 from the crashlong 10:15:19 log 10:15:20 rip 10:15:41 gruntlong, a hasted int executioner 10:15:52 * Grunt gestures. The int convulses! 10:15:58 Maybe the player needs to [T]ransfer to the latest version then? 10:16:10 %git 10:17:46 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674: Fix ghostly unique milestones. 10(9 hours ago, 4 files, 24+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=51c86742b2b4 10:17:46 rip Cheibriados 10:17:46 rip 10:17:46 maybe they just want to win at XL18 10:17:46 and are using the crash to enforce they do 10:17:46 lol 10:17:46 !lm . 10:17:46 11942. [2015-01-29 16:03:19] gammafunk the Convoker (L14 HESu of Sif Muna) killed the ghost of Nixon the Pyromancer, a great DEFE of Vehumet on turn 14609. (Vaults:5) 10:17:46 I'll tell you how to win at xl18! 10:17:46 "finally the functionality I've always wanted!" 10:17:46 oh weir 10:17:46 d 10:17:46 I killed a ghost 10:17:46 never even saw it 10:17:46 Sac Experience x 5? 10:17:46 how much is it worth? 10:17:46 28 piety 10:17:46 heh 10:17:46 +/- 10% 10:17:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:17:54 thanks chei 10:18:08 it's capped now though 10:18:11 yeah :( 10:18:16 It could be capped higher tho 10:18:21 that's nice, I killed a ghost I never saw, and got the most clutch sif gift of all game 10:18:25 still, few people are likely to want to sac > 6 levels 10:18:27 no more saccing experience 13 times 10:18:31 like walking away from the explosion and not looking back 10:18:41 You'd stop getting offers after 6 times . . . 10:18:52 MaxXL=15 seems fine 10:18:53 not if you abandon and rejoin, right? 10:18:55 ha! 10:18:56 True 10:19:04 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:15 that would be kind of a cute trick 10:19:34 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:35 set the record for winning at the lowest xl 10:19:38 use ru to get the lowest xl rune in the tourney 10:19:43 !lg * won min=xl 10:19:44 25157. syllogism the Farming Englaciator (L1 HEIE of Nemelex Xobeh), escaped with the Orb on 2010-01-28 14:34:12, with 250008 points after 209486 turns and 21:26:39. 10:19:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:51 oh right 10:19:53 old drain 10:19:59 !lg * recent won min=xl 10:20:00 7972. Tabstorm the Imperceptible (L17 SpEn of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-07-27 19:54:14, with 3864175 points after 16551 turns and 2:32:10. 10:20:11 gammafunk: imo get good 10:20:17 !lg gammafunk won min=xl 10:20:18 24. gammafunk the Impregnable (L25 DDHe of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-11-28 03:14:51, with 1586395 points after 72870 turns and 9:46:28. 10:20:23 lame-o 10:20:24 excuse me, that score is turrible 10:20:30 !lg Lasty won min=xl 10:20:30 60. Lasty the Warrior (L24 MuDK of Yredelemnul), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-07-12 02:42:21, with 1429941 points after 89356 turns and 5:53:00. 10:20:34 pretty cool score for 3-rune though 10:20:36 I have to admit 10:20:40 how do you take 72k with a DDHE :P 10:20:46 s/E/e 10:20:52 oh that whole run was dumb 10:21:11 I'd be curious to try it with new ely though 10:21:29 well, exploration piety means it's not going to be terribly fast either 10:21:29 !seen dpeg 10:21:29 I last saw dpeg at Thu Jan 29 06:09:05 2015 UTC (10h 12m 24s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 256 seconds'. 10:21:36 quitter! 10:21:40 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:21:42 !lg wheals won 10:21:43 23. wheals the Slayer (L23 TrWr of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-10-07 15:44:01, with 2121252 points after 40412 turns and 2:32:54. 10:22:08 !hs * place=d:1 10:22:08 if only i had had 40 fewer points 10:22:10 1082379. gammafunk the Demonologist (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-02-22 20:26:26, with 941018 points after 49424 turns and 12:08:34. 10:22:25 embarrassing, 5x runes yet only 9k slower 10:22:53 nice playtime though 10:22:57 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23:08 totally could have gotten the rest of the runes in 8k turns imo 10:23:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:34 Did MPA condense the heal/pacify abilities already for NewEly? 10:23:47 I think that's just the plan 10:24:07 oh and if anyone wants to improve G wrath, I put PF/MPA's ideas in the plan doc 10:24:18 we're probably gonna have to remove the healer background (party streamers!) or else give it a weapon 10:24:18 ??plan 10:24:18 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:release_plans 10:24:18 I might poke at that some point this week 10:24:22 ??0.16_plan 10:24:22 0.16 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.16_plans 10:24:35 i condensed the pacify abilities but not the heal ones 10:24:39 and removed healer yeah 10:24:53 great, my He win was for nothing 10:25:01 * Lasty_ breaks into spontaneous applause. A tear runs down his face. 10:25:05 i'm going to play with it a bit locally later but it's probably ready-ish for pushing and messing with 10:25:21 I'm . . . just so happy 10:25:57 Next on the chopping block: felids! Anyone? Anyone? :D 10:26:36 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26:43 just turn them into bears 10:26:57 that would be 10:26:58 that way we get bears that are bears and remove felids 10:26:59 unbearable 10:27:37 if you absolutely have to have a race that can't utilize equipment 10:27:41 please no 10:27:44 (which blows because finding equipment is fun) 10:27:56 no equipment race == boo 10:28:07 do the bears eat the felids? 10:28:32 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:45 bears probably wouldn't oppose eating felids given the opportunity 10:28:51 ??bearkin 10:28:52 bearkin[1/5]: Experimental BEAR race that makes solid bearserkers and bear wizards. You get lots of bear hp and bear claws and bear fangs and even more bear claws. Playable on beartato (CBRO)! 10:29:01 ??bearkin[2 10:29:01 bearkin[2/5]: Large. Starts with claws 1, deformed body and fur 3. Gains hind claws, fangs and more claws over time. 10:29:18 well those sound more fun than felids, at least 10:29:27 bears eat trout, berries, and grubs, silly. Not cats. 10:29:33 Oh, and anything in a camper's cooler. 10:29:41 Pretty sure bears would eat a cat if they were hungry 10:29:46 ^ 10:30:05 Not since the bear-cat wars of the late 1800s. The treaties put in place at that time are pretty closely binding. 10:30:12 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:34 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:30:38 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 10:31:00 but bears are pretty unreliable strategists: http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF098-Sgt._Grumbles.jpg 10:31:21 what is this and why does it exist 10:31:28 I love that comic so much 10:31:33 Perry Bible Fellowship is amazing 10:31:40 you should immediately devote the rest of the day to reading it 10:31:57 |version 10:31:57 trunk: 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2 10:32:06 oh it finally updated 10:32:22 -!- Whistling_Beard has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:32:38 I was mostly planning to rage at ToME mostly 10:32:50 that's a good use of time 10:32:50 Bloax: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:32:52 sooner or later I'll either get so frustrated I'll uninstall it or I win 10:32:54 either is fine 10:32:54 !!! 10:32:57 !messages 10:32:57 (1/1) ontoclasm said (8h 25m 14s ago): Thanks for the spider walls. I'll put them in when I get a chance (assuming roc doesn't beat me to it). 10:36:45 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:37:19 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:38:00 !messages 10:38:01 No messages for TZer0. 10:38:17 well except if I win then I have to win it again with a harder combo 10:38:24 then I have to win some more to unlock everything 10:38:27 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:38:28 and so on 10:41:35 anyway current bears basically combine all the good aspects of the beefy races with few/none of the bad 10:42:28 Na is hampered by slow movement speed, Tr/Og have shitty apts, DD can't regenerate (bwahahahaha), Be has to deal with none of those or anything equivalent 10:42:48 be is basically bettertrolls except without regen 10:43:21 which i don't mind because you can already break this game far worse than by playing a bear 10:44:13 -!- XnMojo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:49:06 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:49 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:53:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:15 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:57:21 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:58:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:58:52 -!- dididi has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:58:55 ??bearkin[3 10:58:55 bearkin[3/5]: s12/i8/d6, si/3, Fighting 0, Short -1, Long +1, Axes +1, Maces +1, Polearms +1, Staves 0, Slings -2, Bows -2, Xbows -2, Throwing -1, Armour -3, Dodging -2, Stealth 0, Shields -2, UC 0, Splcast 0, Conj 0, Hexes -1, Charms 0, Summ 1, Nec -2, Tloc -1, Tmut 0, Fire -1, Earth 1, Poison 0, Invo -1, Evoc 0 10:59:24 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:18 ??bearskin 11:00:19 bearskin ~ bearkin[1/5]: Experimental BEAR race that makes solid bearserkers and bear wizards. You get lots of bear hp and bear claws and bear fangs and even more bear claws. Playable on beartato (CBRO)! 11:00:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:01:42 summ 1, what are you trying to curry favor with me 11:02:15 it's a thematic thing 11:02:18 although I can't even recall why 11:02:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:02:22 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 11:04:57 besides supportive summoning isn't very popular and spammy summoning is obnoxious and boring and apts hardly matter for it anyway 11:05:28 !apt summoning 11:05:28 Summ: Te: 2!, DE: 1, Dr: 0, Vp: 0, Op: 0, Hu: 0, Mf: 0, Ds: 0, HO: 0, VS: 0, Fo: 0, Fe: 0, Na: 0, Ko: 0, HE: -1, Gh: -1, Gr: -1, Ha: -1, DD: -1, Dg: -1, Ce: -1, Mu: -2, Sp: -2, Mi: -3*, Og: -3*, Tr: -3* 11:06:47 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-3835-gebadc1c: Give a milestone for slimifying a unique. 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 6+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ebadc1c2ab51 11:06:53 summoning would be more fun with more spells like dragonstorm 11:07:02 you just cast it and go bash dudes 11:07:16 that's exactly how supportive summoning works anyhow 11:12:19 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:14:01 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:15:51 can anyone come up with a good way of saying "you can't phantom mirror this because you sacrificed love" 11:16:07 every other case of player_will_anger_monster i just did "god_name forbids your cloning this monster" but that doesn't work for ru 11:16:17 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:32 The phantom would only feel hate for you! 11:16:35 i guess s/cloning/reflecting/ there 11:17:04 or just mark phantom mirrors useless for ru followers 11:17:17 they are marked useless, but you can still try and use them 11:17:20 right 11:17:26 well that's the case for summoning spells as well 11:18:09 The Royal Jelly can only feel hate for you! 11:18:29 I'm not sure why we're now somehow trying to answer a totally different question, but reflecting sounds good, yeah 11:19:12 I'm just pointing out phantom mirrors working but creating hostile monsters is consistent and intuitive 11:19:14 i mean i could allow using it still and give a warning prompt, but it seems like just preventing using it on god-disliked monsters is fine 11:19:23 and either way i have to come up with messages 11:19:40 yeah that seems much better 11:20:30 i was going to do "Really reflect this fiery/unholy/whatever monster?" initially but that would require making a big list of descriptions of conducts 11:20:50 and those are already hardcoded in another place for item equipping so it'd be super ugly and bad 11:21:26 any plans on making monks start with a +2 robe? 11:21:30 no 11:21:37 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674 (34) 11:22:22 well ok we'll just keep on throwing on the first ringmails we find 11:23:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:24:13 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:25:17 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:23 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:28:07 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3836-gdd2b5a8: Don't allow phantom mirroring god-hated monsters (#9412) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd2b5a88a551 11:28:10 &dump 11:28:10 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 11:28:52 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30:52 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:31:19 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:38:53 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:42:24 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:42:30 ??shda 11:42:30 I don't have a page labeled shda in my learndb. Did you mean: hda, sda, stda, swda. 11:42:33 ??hda 11:42:34 shadow dragon armour[1/1]: 10AC, 15 ER, Stlth++++ (Stlth+ compared to robes). Can be created by enchanting a shadow dragon hide. (0.16+) 11:45:43 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:17 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 11:49:38 -!- surr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:51:04 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:58:37 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:58:43 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:53 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 12:00:29 -!- Dunsworth has quit [Client Quit] 12:00:50 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:06 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:06:43 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:30 MarvinPA: canned_msg(MSG_UNTHINKING_ACT) is your friend 12:07:46 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:01 +1 for MUT_NO_LOVE allowing you to make hostile clones with phantom mirror, but marking mirrors as useless 12:08:15 (though I know that's a little late) 12:08:33 that was the previous behaviour already, but there was just no prompt when doing so 12:09:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3837-ga900438: Display correct number of available rings for Op sacrificing a tentacle 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9004386f163 12:09:41 and the messaging for it needs to be handled in the same place as for other god conducts, certainly it could be allowed for all gods with a prompt instead 12:09:43 I don't think outright prohibition is the right solution there; we don't do that with e.g. wands of enslavement 12:10:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:10:05 a player_angers_monster call would strike me as the easiest and most consistent thing to do 12:10:10 i don't see why we shouldn't do it for enslavement really 12:10:59 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:10:59 more so for enslavement in fact because it does actually nothing at all other than waste time and wand charges 12:11:34 maybe it's possible to come up with some ridiculous edge case where you want a hostile shadow of a rat so that an ancient lich can't summon any more 1s into that space 12:12:20 I don't think the argument is that we should allow it because it's desirable so much as we should allow it because there's no particular reason to absolutely prohibit the behavior 12:12:41 We allow players to cast agony on skeletons (with force cast or by targeting incorrectly), for example. It's never a good choice, but we don't prohibit it. 12:13:37 Lasty_: there are cases where we absolutely prohibit things, but those are cases where the action's largely lethal (walking into lava / deep water for example). 12:14:04 yes 12:14:13 exactly 12:14:28 And this is harder to do by accident than walking into lava and not generally catastrophic when it does happen 12:14:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:15:32 I suppose the edge case for this being something we should prevent is if someone has an override to pick up mirrors even when they're useless, doesn't realize they have a mirror, and then accidentally fat-fingers evoking the mirror when they meant to zap an attack wand at an exceptionally dangerous monster. 12:15:56 In that case failing to block it could screw them over a bit, but it's a bit of a ridiculous case, I think 12:16:17 well there needs to be a prompt for using it on something that will turn out hostile anyway 12:16:24 so there may as well be one for doing it with sacrifice love 12:16:56 because phantom mirrors aren't outright useless for eg TSO worshippers 12:17:18 but should still not allow you to waste them on demons (or should warn you if you attempt to do so, or whatever) 12:17:19 As currently implemented is it a prompt for TSO, or a prohibition? 12:20:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:24:08 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:02 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3838-gdfabe4d: Fix tentacle-sacrificed Op ring display on A, too 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfabe4dbbcbb 12:25:18 the latter 12:27:22 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:27:28 hmm 12:27:43 -!- Guest75611 is now known as Basil 12:28:09 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:28:15 would anyone mind if lantern of shadows environmental colouring was removed 12:28:32 Is it better to ban TSO worshippers from cloning demons, or to prompt them before they try and then allow them to potentially anger their god by summoning a friendly demon? My vote would be the latter, though I know it would require more work. 12:28:59 Basil: I'd prefer to remove lantern of shadows altogether, though now that it drains mp while used it might be fine as-is 12:28:59 they wouldn't get a friendly demon, they'd get a hostile one 12:29:06 yep 12:29:09 it's how summoning spells work 12:29:20 Yeah, I know 12:29:50 so TSO would get mad and you'd get a hostile demon! 12:30:22 I like the idea of allowing a player to cross their god for a short-term advantage -- it could lead to interesting situations. 12:30:28 i don't care at all either way, "would you like to waste a really good item and create a hostile monster" sounds like a pretty pointless prompt but i wouldn't object to someone else doing the work 12:30:40 MarvinPA: fair enough :) 12:30:47 getting a friendly demon would be horribly inconsistent 12:30:49 oh, making it friendly and angering the god sounds bad though yes 12:31:00 since that's inconsistent with everything everywhere else 12:31:41 yeah, I've ended up advocating for a radical and far-reaching change. Given how much work it would be, its marginal interestingness is probably not worth the work. 12:31:51 ah well 12:33:47 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:58 i can see what you mean but letting you summon friendly demons on purpose in return for penance (if you applied it everywhere) still forces you into new inconsistencies or awkward behaviour 12:34:24 since you have things like shadow creatures and summon dragon and so on, that only sometimes summon forbidden stuff 12:35:08 or i don't even know what summon dragon does these days but you know what i mean :P 12:35:18 haha, yeah 12:35:18 I do 12:35:24 shadow dragon (06D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 17 | HP: 107-145 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 2013(drain), 1509(claw), 1509(claw) | evil, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(120), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++ | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 04rot | XP: 2067 | Sp: b.draining (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 12:35:24 %?? shadow dragon 12:35:36 it creates these, unless you follow a good god 12:35:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:35:51 and fire dragons unless you follow dith, I assume 12:36:03 Does TSO block swamp dragons? 12:36:14 swamp dragons aren't evil 12:36:22 TSO doesn't mind your allies stabbing and poisoning and such 12:36:34 oh, really? 12:36:44 I thought he blocked poisonous stuff from the sack of spiders 12:37:19 he certainly shouldn't 12:37:37 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:44 the poison conduct is not a very consistently applied one 12:38:46 to say the least 12:40:31 Level build method = ABSENT, level layout type = ABSENT, absdepth0 = 0 12:40:41 guess I should do a clean install 12:40:51 apparently I'm also an unemployed yak 12:42:34 huh, it still crashes 12:42:35 weird 12:43:08 is there something wrong with the trunk windows builds 12:44:13 not as of last night 12:44:20 apparently it's just the installer 12:44:29 oh, hm 12:44:45 the individual .zips work fine 12:44:51 Oh, not building from git? 12:44:57 http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ 12:44:58 these 12:45:04 ah 12:45:11 I'm not sure who is providing those right now 12:45:30 Vampire poison immunity/resistance display inconsistencies 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9457 by Grisamentum 12:45:45 although even this one just prints upside down question marks with alt gr + numbers 12:46:56 anyway TSO doesn't care about sack of spiders 12:47:08 ah, huh. Shows what I know. 12:47:30 I guess TSO just blocks demonic crawlers, not the poisonous spiders 12:48:06 ...SoS can create demonic crawlers? 12:48:18 I assumed it could. Maybe I just have no idea what's up. 12:48:37 * Lasty_ looks it up 12:48:37 * Sequell also looks it up 12:48:44 thanks, Sequell 12:48:54 !source evoke.cc 12:48:54 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc;hb=HEAD 12:49:14 Nope. 12:49:20 while you're at it could you also check if TSO blocks golden dragons for dragoncall 12:49:26 it seems like he does 12:49:33 which makes no sense 12:50:04 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:20 !source godconduct.cc 12:50:20 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc;hb=HEAD 12:50:23 ?? list of spells by school[summoning 12:50:24 list_of_spells_by_school[11/13]: Summoning: {no} 12:50:25 what 12:50:54 !soruce mon-data.h 12:51:00 !source mon-data.h 12:51:00 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h;hb=HEAD 12:51:42 golden dragons don't have any props that I would expect TSO to hate 12:52:04 poison breath 12:52:07 fun note: dragons are warm blooded, draconians are cold blooded. 12:52:27 Grunt: then is TSO okay with shadow creatures creating poisonous monsters 12:52:34 s/is/why is/ 12:52:35 except ice dragons 12:54:10 !source player_will_anger_monster 12:54:11 1/2. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc;hb=HEAD#l3934 12:54:12 <|amethyst> because DracoOmega either didn't realise that TSO accepts venomous allies; or he did, thought that was wrong, and made Dragon's Call not work that way 12:54:41 <|amethyst> !source _choose_dragon_type 12:54:41 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-summoning.cc;hb=HEAD#l408 12:54:57 oh, is it a special case for dragon's call? O,o 12:55:07 what. 12:55:11 <|amethyst> it seems 12:55:22 should use player_will_anger_monster 12:55:44 <|amethyst> it does 12:55:49 // For good gods, switch away from shadow dragons (and, for TSO, 12:55:50 // golden dragons, since they poison) to storm/iron dragons. 12:55:50 <|amethyst> but it has this extra check too 12:55:53 this makes no bloody sense at all 12:56:07 heh 12:56:13 learn add crawl 12:56:22 in that case, just remove the special case there 12:57:17 <|amethyst> btw, can we change the flavour of this monster-angering? 12:57:34 <|amethyst> it makes no sense that a fire dragon gets angry because you worship Dith 12:57:47 +1 12:58:11 <|amethyst> I mean, it makes sense that you don't get fire dragons while worshipping Dith 12:58:12 player_will_anger_monster is generally more like players_god_hates_monster 12:58:34 <|amethyst> I guess the problem is, how *do* you flavour it 12:59:09 A friendly fire dragon comes into sight. TSO booms, "TSO commands you cut a bitch!" The dragon roars! 12:59:23 er, shadow dragon for TSO 12:59:35 uh 13:00:01 <|amethyst> the god intervening to make the enemy hostile is kind of problematic 13:00:12 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:00:41 but that's effectively what's happening, it's just happening without declaration 13:01:19 so it seems dith is special cased to not get fire/golden dragons 13:01:39 <|amethyst> kvaak: that's not a special case, that's the general player_will_anger_monster 13:01:40 That part is handled by player_will_anger_monster 13:01:59 so uh, why doesn't the same apply for TSO 13:02:05 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:02:15 Poisonous monsters don't actually anger TSO 13:02:20 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:02:26 there's a special case for this one spell to block golden dragons only 13:02:30 for TSO 13:02:40 for no good reason 13:02:43 yes 13:02:50 <|amethyst> Well, there is the more basic "why" 13:02:58 :shrug: 13:03:12 arguably TSO should hate anything that poisons or disables enemies 13:03:15 <|amethyst> Which I'm not sure about, but I suspect Summon Scorpions in the Su book might have been part of it? 13:03:16 because chivalry 13:03:35 <|amethyst> another thing is 13:03:37 so I assume you shouldn't be able to enslave kobolds with venom daggers 13:03:48 <|amethyst> TSO doesn't hate poison 13:03:53 <|amethyst> he hates poisoning certain things 13:03:56 Well, arguably, but again, TSO doesn't actually hate poison 13:03:57 <|amethyst> likewise stabbing 13:04:05 |amethyst: he used to hate summon scorpions 13:04:06 <|amethyst> you can stab demons all you want 13:04:30 <|amethyst> kvaak: IIRC he just pretended to hate it, and turned it red, but didn't actually 13:04:36 <|amethyst> kvaak: same is true for parrow now 13:04:44 huh 13:05:03 TSO's conducts are pretty awkward 13:05:22 and the no poison = no blowgun aspect makes early TSO much, much worse than it would be otherwise 13:05:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:53 anyway I assume the no golden dragons conduct is nonsensical and should be removed 13:08:27 I would agree with that. 13:08:31 <|amethyst> hm 13:08:36 <|amethyst> ??poison arrow 13:08:36 poison arrow[1/1]: Level 6, range 7 conj/poison spell (Annihilations exclusive), inflicts incredible damage, deals 70% resistable damage and poisons poison-resistant natural creatures; the undead cannot be poisoned but still take some damage. 4d53.75 damage at max power (but good luck getting 200 power). 13:08:46 <|amethyst> ah, only natural 13:08:56 spider form is red too but TSO doesn't mind it until you poison something you shouldn't 13:09:07 -!- grisamentum has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09:17 <|amethyst> you can poison necromancers all you want, for example 13:09:27 yeah, that's how TSO treats all of that suite of conducts: they're fine unless you violate them against a non-evil foe 13:09:29 yeah, that makes sense 13:09:38 or a beast, right? 13:09:49 nope, no poisoning animals either 13:09:58 <|amethyst> TSO does not like poisoning beasts, but doesn't mind stabbing them 13:10:04 uh 13:10:05 Can you attack distracted/fleeing beasts? 13:10:08 I think so 13:10:24 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:10:46 <|amethyst> the wrath screen isn't exactly correct, but: 13:10:58 <|amethyst> ... you poison monsters or you attack intelligent monsters in an unchivalric manner 13:10:58 apparently you can 13:11:13 <|amethyst> (not entirely correct because it doesn't mention that poisoning the evil is okay) 13:11:23 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:11:24 isn't stabbing evil okay too? 13:11:40 <|amethyst> it is not 13:11:52 <|amethyst> Really attack the helpless necromancer? This attack would place you under penance! 13:11:55 <|amethyst> ... 13:11:57 s/evil/demons 13:11:58 <|amethyst> _"You will butt for your transgression, mortal!" 13:12:10 <|amethyst> ah, 13:12:19 IIRC you can't stab evil non-demons/non-undead 13:12:25 you can't 13:12:27 I meant demons/undead 13:12:35 you can't stab them either? 13:12:39 <|amethyst> yeah, TSO is fine with stabbing demons/undead 13:12:46 <|amethyst> but the wrath screen is incorrect about that 13:13:51 -!- markgo`` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:16:04 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:18:40 <|amethyst> !tell sd922 I updated the DNS entry for kr.dobrazupa.org to webzook.net's IP... might not get a chance to update the scoring stuff until this weekend... also need to point greensnark to the new port 82 location for milestones/logs 13:18:40 |amethyst: OK, I'll let sd922 know. 13:19:16 <|amethyst> !tell sd922 also, if webzook.net's IP is subject to change, let me know and I can change that from an A record to a CNAME 13:19:16 |amethyst: OK, I'll let sd922 know. 13:19:38 <|amethyst> wow, my DNS provider... 13:20:33 <|amethyst> In the dropdown for "add records" it has the stuff you would expect, with descriptions: CNAME (Alias) MX (Mail Exchanger) SOA (start of authority) 13:20:45 <|amethyst> but the very first entry is A (previously known as a web alias) 13:21:17 <|amethyst> "web alias" is a very strange way to describe an Address record 13:21:27 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:22:27 <|amethyst> Also, fie on web sites that hide "log out" inside a menu 13:23:49 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus nice unpushed refactoring there :) I was thinking about a "max_by" template function, but I think even that would end up wordier to call than just writing the for loop 13:23:50 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:25:17 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus FYI: instead of accumulating over max, you can use std::max_element which was even there before C++11 :) 13:25:17 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:25:39 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:25 Grunt would enjoy std::minmax_element 13:27:36 dang.................................... 13:27:55 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus If you did want to make this kind of thing somewhat more convenient to do, my and doy's filtered_iterator (branch iterators) could be adapted into a transformed_iterator, avoiding the need to construct and resize a temp vector 13:27:55 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:29:09 <|amethyst> !tell sd922 also, do those milestones and logfiles include the old entries from CKR, or only new games after the move? 13:29:09 |amethyst: OK, I'll let sd922 know. 13:30:06 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus or maybe we could use boost (and put it in contribs). It's peer-reviewed! 13:30:07 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:30:18 |amethyst: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 13:30:22 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:44:35 Grunt: compilation is still too easy and straightforward, this is our only choice 13:45:18 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 13:45:27 * Grunt gestures. wheals is cast into ray.cc! 13:45:51 * wheals escaped (hah!) into beam.cc (ray.cc)! 13:47:13 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:49:38 -!- spacet_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:33 -!- bh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:42 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:45 -!- neunon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:55 %git 13:54:55 07MarvinPA02 * 0.16-a0-3838-gdfabe4d: Fix tentacle-sacrificed Op ring display on A, too 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfabe4dbbcbb 13:55:02 %git --author=mark 13:55:02 07wheals02 * 64b26b479772: Prettify bolt_parent_init. 10(5 weeks ago, 3 files, 35+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=64b26b479772 13:55:19 03Shmuale Mark02 07* 0.16-a0-3839-gfc5615a: Fix a wizmode crash (Zannick). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc5615a71908 13:55:30 oops 13:55:31 hm 13:55:46 i see, i was using shm.mark before 13:55:51 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- neunon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- neunon_ is now known as neunon 13:56:37 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:56:38 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:57:55 whoops 13:58:11 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:50 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:59:00 actually, it might make more sense to remove that if 13:59:36 ...all three of those ifs 14:00:27 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:42 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:37 -!- markgo` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:06 <|amethyst> wheals: you can add the dotless version to the mailmap (in the repo root) 14:02:22 -!- gammafun1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:26 -!- gammafun1 is now known as gammafunk 14:03:19 i just changed my email back, so it shouldn't be a problem in the future 14:03:46 I actually like this strange new patch about early, bonus-piety to a random god. Is anyone vehemently against trying it out? 14:04:59 what patch? 14:05:34 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9454 14:05:42 <|amethyst> does that actually give bonus piety? 14:05:42 the name of the altars is already out of the question :) 14:05:53 probably not, but that was the idea, as I understood the thread 14:05:58 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:12 From a gameplay perspective I think that's neat. From a flavor perspective, I don't think it makes a lick of sense. 14:07:41 yeah it would be pretty cute, I could see it working ok 14:07:52 IMO, D1 is not good, tho. D2, maybe D3. 14:07:59 yeah 14:08:16 Lasty_: yes, I wonderer about the flavour. I'd sell it as a "barely recognisable altar" or somesuch. 14:08:23 !source your_branch 14:08:24 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/branch.cc;hb=HEAD#l93 14:08:32 But how do we excuse the god choosing not to tell you who they are? 14:09:12 <|amethyst> So this is something that conjuration starts probably wouldn't use? 14:09:24 Unless we prevent any other altars to the god you join from spawning, it doesn't really make sense that the god is "forgotten", and gods are normally really forthcoming with who they are 14:09:40 |amethyst: because there's a slim chance of Trog? 14:09:48 <|amethyst> yeah 14:09:54 well hell 14:10:05 it's not like you don't have a good chance of winning with trog 14:10:08 well, it's unlikely you get trog, but if you do, that's probably pretty amazing 14:10:12 ^ 14:10:20 Lasty_: the god isn't forgotten, the altar is in tatters (that's what I think) 14:10:28 <|amethyst> FR: start berserker with like 5 str no combat skills 14:10:37 <|amethyst> s/no/and no/ 14:10:37 dpeg: but when you pray at a non-tattered altar, the god say, "this is who I am and what I do!" 14:10:41 *says 14:10:43 |amethyst: I could win it! 14:11:07 it's some kind of "cursed altar" 14:11:10 |amethyst: not actually that hard 14:11:32 yeah 0 skill melee works just fine, and 0 skill melee + berserk... 14:11:43 Trog is a really amazing early-game god, and berkserk while wielding a loaf of bread can kill d1-5 w/ n o problem 14:12:58 okay, let's try this patch? 14:13:08 it if turns out to be too bizarre, can always revert 14:13:11 call it something like "nemelex's choice altar"...heh 14:13:12 <|amethyst> it needs some fixes 14:13:22 yeah the patch was not made correctly 14:13:26 (there is also the meta-reason that it's good to give patchers quick, positive feedback :) 14:13:28 <|amethyst> it can result in things like mummies worshipping trog 14:13:29 <|amethyst> err 14:13:32 <|amethyst> mummies worshipping TSO 14:13:42 also the patch changes things it didn't intend to 14:13:52 <|amethyst> but, yeah, the idea is reasonable 14:13:55 We'd need to limit to gods who will accept your sacrifice 14:14:00 er your worship 14:14:24 <|amethyst> and it has no save compat 14:14:27 yeah it'd have to exclude gods that forbid your worship, I guess 14:14:30 sif is also a problem 14:14:52 We'd have to apply the same rule to Sif, or else have Sif loan you a small book on joining 14:14:58 Lasty_: there are gods besides Ru... 14:15:05 heh, that's cute 14:15:12 wheals: I took sacrifice other gods 14:15:42 if I got Ru 14:15:42 I would quit right there 14:15:42 don't you get that for free when joining? 14:15:47 (IMO, characters who know no magic should get a book w/ 1 level 1 spell from Sif instead of denying worship) 14:15:48 probably with some snide message 14:15:54 <|amethyst> err, not that it would necessarily need save compat, but it inserts an enum before DNGN_TRAP_SHADOW 14:15:58 gammafunk: :'( 14:16:06 I thought you liked Ru to a moderate degree 14:16:10 >>Sacrifice fun!!! 14:16:11 you can abandon Ru at 0 piety with no retribution 14:16:16 No I'm just giving you a hard time 14:16:29 I'd take Ru on like a nem choice char if I had a good plan 14:16:31 <|amethyst> I'd also either add the piety bonus, or keep the D:1 14:16:31 Kramin: true 14:16:38 <|amethyst> so there is some reason to use it other than "whee!" 14:16:40 oh, huh 14:16:55 yeah how would ru work, exactly 14:17:08 |amethyst: sometimes a d:2 altar would be worth it for that reason alone 14:17:12 just require ou to take a sacrifice? 14:17:13 <|amethyst> gammafunk: probably same way as monk 14:17:15 you aren't guaranteed any other d:2 altars 14:17:20 oh, how is that? 14:17:25 I'd never thought about ru and mo 14:17:33 gammafunk: you get your first sac offer almost immediately 14:17:34 <|amethyst> gammafunk: you get your first offer soon 14:17:41 like 5-10 turns 14:17:50 <|amethyst> probably something to do with 'multiple of 200 aut'? 14:17:52 oh ok, but if you can you just "reroll" this altar... 14:17:59 I guess the altar gets converted, doesn't it 14:18:00 |amethyst: yeah 14:18:06 gammafunk: yeah 14:18:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: not currently AFAICT 14:18:29 well that's what we'd have to do then 14:18:46 well, I think we've established that we need to clean this idea up a fair amount 14:18:56 <|amethyst> also, need another colour 14:19:07 oh, no, not a colour choice 14:19:07 <|amethyst> making it look like a Xom altar probably isn't good 14:19:18 <|amethyst> not saying that's hard, just finding bugs 14:19:28 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:19:29 no yeah that came off as snarkier than I meant it to be 14:19:32 light gray. It's supposed to be ruined/worn/unrecognizable, right? 14:19:43 so bland 14:20:01 <|amethyst> Zin 14:20:19 black 14:20:21 <|amethyst> I guess we do reuse darkgrey though 14:20:26 <|amethyst> for both unknown and kiku 14:20:35 <|amethyst> so probably lightgrey wouldn't be terrible 14:20:42 oh, just use darkgrey then, for "unknown", right? 14:20:48 etc_jewel or something like that? 14:20:55 I guess that's the opposite of "worn" 14:21:00 <|amethyst> Lasty_: that's unknown as in "you haven't seen it yet" 14:21:08 <|amethyst> not sure if it would be good to conflate the too 14:21:11 maybe not 14:21:13 that patch also has ridiculously high CHANCE, and spawns all over the place which seems pretty pointless 14:21:51 <|amethyst> what about ETC_DARK 14:22:01 <|amethyst> which is 2/3 darkgrey and 1/3 lightgrey 14:22:16 I'd prefer if it didn't change colors, but I don't care all that strongly. 14:22:20 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22:24 seems reasonable at least 14:22:31 yeah I just don't know if there are any free single colours 14:22:36 there aren't 14:23:12 ETC_DISCO imo 14:24:02 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:24:42 <|amethyst> re what MarvinPA said about "all over the place" 14:24:54 <|amethyst> what about restricting it to only D:2-3 ish 14:25:06 <|amethyst> or maybe a little deeper 14:25:07 <|amethyst> but 14:25:37 I'd recommend keeping them as high as possible, though I don't like the idea of violating the D:1 altar ban. I could probably be argued out of it. 14:25:46 <|amethyst> it seems like, even with bonus piety, it's not necessarily very interesing after you find Temple 14:26:10 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3840-gda14513: Simplify. 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da1451388779 14:26:13 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:26:13 <|amethyst> s/resi/resti/ 14:27:00 <|amethyst> I'd suggest even guaranteeing it on D:3, though maybe not with bonus piety then 14:27:19 those altars should only occur very early 14:27:27 With the current number of gods and altars, you're reasonably likely to find -some- altars by d:2-3 14:27:43 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:38 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:14 <|amethyst> yeah, D:3 with a bonus might be reasonable 14:29:27 <|amethyst> I'm trying to be sensitive to complaints of power creep :) 14:31:57 !source religion.cc 14:31:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/religion.cc;hb=HEAD 14:32:24 let's talk about this piety bonus. The standard starting piety is 15? 30 is *. 14:32:38 so a bonus of 15 piety is about the most I think I'd want it to give . . . 14:32:59 Lasty_: yes, sounds good 14:33:30 oh, and Lucy gets +20 piety 14:33:45 and monks get +35 piety 14:34:54 right on the edge of * means it could decay to nothing in a few turns 14:35:10 why not do it +20 like lucy 14:35:27 (well, not nothing, but that's what it looks like) 14:36:32 can there be a chance of getting the non-temple gods? 14:38:18 seems reasonble to me 14:40:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:40:52 reasonable too 14:44:27 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:46:25 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:56:42 03Sage02 07* 0.16-a0-3841-g2612308: Remove Lantern of Shadows environmental colouring. 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=26123089b80c 15:02:19 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:51 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:07:16 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:08:56 -!- pyre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:09:32 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:09:54 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:49 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Lingo: www.lingoirc.com] 15:12:01 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:50 -!- Franklyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:13:05 -!- Hurricos has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:59 -!- Hurricos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:21:51 -!- grisamentum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:22:05 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:47 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:05 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:27:22 -!- Misder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:32:14 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:38 -!- pyre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:34:00 <|amethyst> re that last commit, is the tiles version of LoS darkening inobtrusive enough to keep? 15:36:30 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:38:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:46:24 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:51 -!- Hurricos has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:23 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55:55 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:58:20 -!- pyre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:02:16 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:52 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:02:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:44 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 16:09:52 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:10:23 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:10:46 -!- Hurricos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:11:05 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:18:49 -!- fukk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:25:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:27:09 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:29:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:29:53 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30:47 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:19 |amethyst: thanks for Mantis reply! 16:33:39 -!- broquaint has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:34:18 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:37 <|amethyst> dpeg: made a few tweaks (mentioned Lasty's +15 or +20 piety suggestion, and my suggestion of having just one such altar but guaranteed 16:37:12 <|amethyst> dpeg: and made clear that the latter was just my thoughts, not consensus 16:38:29 Moving while confused prompts for attack 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9458 by silentsnack 16:42:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:45:11 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 16:46:28 -!- misder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:51:06 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:15 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 16:53:51 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:53:56 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 16:53:56 -!- maldini has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:56:16 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 16:56:39 |amethyst: yes, very good :) 16:57:12 I just had a really exciting game: troll of Gozag, food was so scarce -- I acquire food and duplicated 11 meat rations <3 16:59:13 dpeg: didn't buy a food shop? 17:01:33 gammafunk: of course I did! 17:01:33 <|amethyst> I imagine he spent all his money on bribery? 17:01:51 |amethyst: germans are thrifty! 17:02:13 -!- Krinn has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:17 |amethyst: for a while I was worried I couldn't bribe because the food shops ate all my money... but then it was enough to brive V:$ and Zot. Vaults was very useful, Zot bribe underperformed. 17:02:33 yeah I found that the fund dried up very fast 17:02:38 I guess the dracs are a problem? 17:02:52 <|amethyst> dpeg: thoughts on wrath? 17:02:57 oh 17:03:00 <|amethyst> dpeg: I think that's one of the big blockers 17:03:01 ??0.16_plan 17:03:02 0.16 plan[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:planning:0.16_plans 17:03:09 dpeg: I updated the G wrath issues on that 17:03:15 <|amethyst> ah 17:03:17 taking what PF and MPA had discussed 17:03:20 feel free to comment 17:03:23 dpeg or |amethyst 17:04:02 but yeah I think that's a definite todo for the release 17:07:09 I have a dev question/problem. I'm building tiles from source (at 3748f1646b083409 ) on a mac. Games start with autopickup off for all categories, and newly-identified items (e.g. potion of curing) default to autopickup off. I don't see anything in git log that looks like it caused that. Where does the autopickup behavior live? 17:07:13 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 17:09:28 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:09:36 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:02 <|amethyst> Krinn: you have a custom rc that uses add_autopickup_func ? 17:10:37 <|amethyst> if so 17:10:38 <|amethyst> %git f0307c90b 17:10:39 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-3636-gf0307c9: Merge add_autopickup_func and add_no_autopickup_func; add clear_autopickup_funcs. 10(2 weeks ago, 5 files, 50+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0307c90bf47 17:10:42 |amethyst: ah, I am not good at wraths. I never abandon gods! 17:10:55 <|amethyst> Krinn: that made it so that returning false means "never pick this item up" 17:11:00 <|amethyst> Krinn: you need to return nil instead 17:11:09 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:30 Yeah, I was using that one that I think is one of the samples for "pick up armor that represents slots you currently aren't using" 17:11:30 !send dpeg 10 berserk stone giants 17:11:30 Sending 10 berserk stone giants to dpeg. 17:11:54 since that's an RC change, I should see that just from starting crawl again? 17:12:09 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:29 * Krinn sets up a new game, taps . "Yup, that did it. Thank you." :D 17:12:30 new artefacts were awesome, btw 17:12:30 <|amethyst> Krinn: you can copy the updated version of that function from advanced_optioneering.txt to your rc 17:12:46 <|amethyst> Krinn: ah, yeah, misunderstood your last question 17:12:48 (in the "tough decisions" sense, not "stronger than the sun" sense) 17:15:14 -!- muravey has quit [Client Quit] 17:15:43 Oh good, I was about to ask if that got updated. Sweet. Thanks again. 17:18:32 -!- ghostmoth has quit [Quit: ghostmoth] 17:20:20 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22:34 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:30:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:30:18 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3841-g2612308 (34) 17:30:59 it's not very hard to be stronger than a sun demon, length-wise 17:31:00 theTower: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:31:11 ??sun demon 17:31:11 sun demon[1/2]: Made of suns. Hits very hard with fire damage, vulnerable to cold, speed 12! 17:31:21 clearly with the "success" of the bennu I'll go make a jinwu for gehenna 17:31:21 ??sun demon[2] 17:31:21 sun demon[2/2]: So called because it is more than 4 billion meters in circumference. 17:33:38 <_miek> wasn't there a request that sun demons instakill vampires? 17:34:11 -!- markgo` has quit [Client Quit] 17:34:31 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:14 -!- Watball has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:37:19 -!- markgo`` has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:38:22 -!- Lasty has left ##crawl-dev 17:38:28 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:21 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:19 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 17:48:02 !greatplayer 17:48:08 Unwon species for dpeg: Centaur, Demigod, Felid, Formicid, Gargoyle, Ghoul, Halfling, High Elf, Hill Orc, Human, Kobold, Merfolk, Mummy, Vampire, Vine Stalker 17:49:50 -!- Lohengramm has quit [] 17:50:07 -!- Lohengramm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:10 !greaterplayer dpeg 17:50:12 !polytheist dpeg 17:50:13 Unwon gods for dpeg: , Beogh, Jiyva, Makhleb, Nemelex Xobeh, Qazlal, Ru, Trog 17:50:16 Unwon backgrounds for dpeg: Abyssal Knight, Arcane Marksman, Artificer, Berserker, Death Knight, Enchanter, Skald, Summoner, Transmuter, Wanderer, Warper, Wizard 17:50:44 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 17:50:59 |amethyst: how do you generate Cheibriados data? 17:54:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:56:28 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:56:49 <|amethyst> chequers: you mean %?? 17:56:51 <|amethyst> ? 17:56:54 <|amethyst> ??monster 17:56:54 monsters[1/4]: The most up-to-date code for %?? and %? can be found at http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=monster-trunk.git , or clone from http://s-z.org/neil/git/monster-trunk.git , branch 'bleeding-edge-crawl'. 17:59:37 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:02:00 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:02:57 dpeg hasn't won Beogh? That's just wrong. 18:03:29 |amethyst: ah thanks 18:03:42 -!- lessens has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:22 -!- cykeltillsalu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:56 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:08:06 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:11:06 FR: make god revival a milestone (like felid reincarnation) 18:13:25 actually I guess they don't revive you, they prevent the attack, but it would be nice to be able to query 18:14:51 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:17:43 !lg 18:17:43 2223. dpeg the Firebug (L3 HOFE), slain by a centaur skeleton on D:3 on 2015-01-29 23:53:12, with 34 points after 1875 turns and 0:04:07. 18:17:47 I tried! ^^ 18:17:54 rip. 18:18:06 but yeah, orc of beogh comes next 18:18:08 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:16 beorc 18:20:37 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:49 -!- SkaryMonk2 has left ##crawl-dev 18:22:18 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:22:59 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0.1/20150122214805]] 18:27:08 |amethyst: Do you know the new location for ckr logs? 18:27:14 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:16 !isonline ckr 18:27:17 14 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes, 23 seconds since last activity (ckr) 18:32:56 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:34:22 -!- spacet has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:41:02 -!- dino is now known as Guest497 18:41:44 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:42:09 greensnark: hiya! 18:46:00 Heyy dpeg 18:46:40 gotta go now :) have fun 18:48:21 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:50:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:52:01 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:53:16 you too :) 18:54:09 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:57:51 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:03 -!- Guest497 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:01:13 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:09 -!- dididi has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:21 <|amethyst> greensnark: http://webzook.net:82/ looks like they started over 19:06:48 <|amethyst> greensnark: as in, those are only logs/milestones from after the move 19:08:14 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:31 <|amethyst> greensnark: do the scoring and sequell sources.yml accept full URLs for milestones: and logfiles: or only relative paths? 19:12:53 -!- link_1081 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:15:16 -!- ZebTM has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:19:38 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:56 -!- Whistling_Beard has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:30 |amethyst: Don't recall what scoring does. Sequell can be fixed to use absolute paths easily 19:20:45 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:35 !apt Tr 19:21:35 Tr: Fighting: -2*, Short: -2, Long: -2, Axes: -2, Maces: -1, Polearms: -2, Staves: -2, Slings: -4*, Bows: -4*, Xbows: -4*, Throw: -1, Armour: -2, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -4*, Shields: -2, UC: 0, Splcast: -5*, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -4*, Charms: -4*, Summ: -3*, Nec: -2, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Air: -4*, Earth: -1, Poison: -3*, Inv: -1*, Evo: -2*, Exp: -1, HP: 3!, MP: -2* 19:22:56 -!- axujen_ has quit [Quit: Axujen out!] 19:26:22 -!- Gibbs has quit [] 19:32:23 gammafunk: ya rip 19:32:43 funny thing is that I sent that after killing one 19:32:44 man, I'm super annoyed that the cxc rebuild apparently didn't finish. I started it before I went to bed last night, but then ??? 19:32:46 turns out there were like 3 more 19:32:48 hahaha 19:32:50 yep 19:33:34 http://i.gyazo.com/2e7e7cced1bc8289c7b82f6a5a0a2eba.png is a good screenshot imo 19:33:46 clearly give it to chequers for his new site design (don't actually do that) 19:34:12 ??abyss[9 19:34:12 abyss[9/9]: This is a scroll of acquirement! What kind of item would you like to acquire? Something appears at your feet! You are suddenly pulled into a different region of the Abyss! 19:34:16 one of my favorites 19:34:20 from a wahaha game 19:34:40 ya that's a classic 19:36:36 yes please 19:36:53 i have a screenshot of myself teleported in a lab directly onto the exit 19:36:58 so this one is just as good 19:37:43 imo the lab screenshot is more 'accessible' 19:40:57 whatever happened to bh_'s coffee table book of crawl deaths? 19:41:00 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:41:25 while we're talking about screenshots 19:42:01 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:08 that sounds like a bh project 19:42:25 |amethyst: any reason why cszo console would not work for me yet webtiles does? 19:42:36 it seems to be hanging on connect for console 19:42:43 gammafunk: it's a message to you... from the gods... 19:42:48 well I have no idea what it's doing actually 19:42:54 sif muna whispers: "play tiles......." 19:43:11 wow you clearly never have sif dreams 19:43:14 she never says that 19:43:27 !lm . hesu 19:43:28 3167. [2015-01-29 16:03:19] gammafunk the Convoker (L14 HESu of Sif Muna) killed the ghost of Nixon the Pyromancer, a great DEFE of Vehumet on turn 14609. (Vaults:5) 19:43:34 my ruse, exposed 19:43:38 made it to the corner, but that's on hold for a bit 19:43:44 !lm gammafunk 19:43:45 11971. [2015-01-30 00:39:26] gammafunk the Basher (L17 CeAM of Okawaru) killed Ilsuiw on turn 45529. (Shoals:5) 19:43:51 !title basher 19:43:53 basher: Maces & Flails 8-14 19:43:54 A:5 was a nightmare 19:44:05 thought it would be easy with throwing and ce 19:44:08 sounds like a:5 19:44:18 I had invis too! and flying barding! 19:44:36 that sounds pretty much optimal, ya 19:44:40 what happened 19:44:55 just ordinary and non-ordinary mf did a lot of damage in melee 19:45:08 and a silly grunt c made my life difficult 19:45:17 and every time I flew to safety a wind drake showed up 19:45:24 and water nymphs...and......;_; 19:45:59 -!- Watball has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 19:45:59 ??glyphs 19:46:00 glyphs[1/2]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html — Generated with the script http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs 19:46:13 satyr (09c) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 52-80 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 25 | 10items, 10doors, master archer, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 891 | Sp: battlecry [11!AM], cause fear, sleep | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 19:46:13 %??satyr 19:46:16 use sack of spiders 19:46:21 oh, didn't know those were his 19:46:23 oh look spiders ran the hell away 19:46:26 also didn't know they were cs 19:46:28 hahaha 19:46:28 thanks grunt 19:46:29 rekd 19:46:35 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:00 PleasingFungus: there was something i was going to say to you, but i can't remember what now 19:47:18 excite 19:48:46 oh right 19:49:04 -!- Watball has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:10 case 365: // orb guardian strcpy(descpr, "A huge and glowing crystal statue. "); 19:49:31 huh 19:49:34 i guess this sort of explains the floating baby 19:49:40 not very much, though 19:49:41 not 19:49:42 really 19:49:58 also "i guess this sort of explains the floating baby" is a good sentence 19:50:15 !explain the floating baby 19:50:15 There is no explanation for the floating baby 19:50:24 lol 19:51:32 -!- ZebTM has quit [] 19:52:27 goodsequell. 19:53:02 i was looking at crawl 2.7 and there was lots of other good stuff 19:53:15 it's a fun codebase 19:53:26 int poison ; // poison!! 19:53:33 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:53:46 fr AF_POISSON 19:53:52 sounds fishy to me 19:53:54 extern struct player you [1]; has really kept me stumped 19:54:02 -!- Yermak has quit [Client Quit] 19:54:07 multiplayer support is coming... 19:54:49 ontoclasm: sounds fishy 19:54:54 more likely that's just someone confused about the relationship between pointers and arrays... 19:55:12 Grunt: I literally just made that joke!!!!! 19:55:21 rip.......................... 19:55:25 ya rip. 19:55:43 yeah but i can't figure out why he didn't just do extern struct player you; like modern crawl does 19:56:31 PleasingFungus: Grunt: don't worry, your responses were normally distributed 19:58:03 well, it is a confusion that I have seen from others who were confused about how C / C++ work 19:58:17 interesting 19:58:22 and I sort of follow the logic involved 19:58:39 i guess, confusing the extern declaration with a definition 19:58:47 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:17 151 case 62: return 8; // Summon Thing 19:59:21 no, more thinking that an external reference has to be a pointer because it lives somewhere else, but it's one thing and confusion between pointer and array leads to declaring as a 1-element array 19:59:32 <|amethyst> well 19:59:37 because it's one thing and not a pointer that you might think would change 19:59:44 <|amethyst> keep in mind that Linley didn't make it to the chapter on pointers 19:59:47 right 19:59:50 :) 19:59:51 Jurubetut - Fire Vuhimeti - Ice 19:59:57 this is all post-linley :) 20:00:01 hard to believe that someone could get confused about c++..... 20:00:09 it's such a simple language! 20:00:13 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:00:18 wheals: is there any context for that? 20:00:25 PleasingFungus: well, he only _used_ C features :P 20:00:40 mm 20:00:51 <|amethyst> C++, as we learned in the tender days of youth, supports .... 20:00:59 priest.cc in 3.31beta01 20:01:01 and linley's far from the only person who has been severely confused by these things --- it's by far one of the most common confusions for C / C++ beginners 20:01:12 i see it now 20:01:25 what was that bit of code in old spell listings 20:01:36 i was fairly confused about externs when starting 20:01:39 char * f[2]; f[0] = getchm(); f[1] = 0; mprf("%s", f); 20:01:44 something like that 20:02:00 the idea that an extern has to be a pointer because "obviously it lives somewhere else" is more confusion about how "extern" works --- less common than the pointer one, but actually related (extern is, in some conceptual sense, a kind of pointer) 20:02:05 <|amethyst> geekosaur: yeah, why can't you just put it in a COMMON block like gods intended? 20:02:24 confusion about linking vs. compilation, perhaps 20:02:27 i can follow pointer-based stuf if it's set out in really clear terms, but when it's just random &s stuck on stuff i get lost 20:02:33 tbh I have never done much with extern and am not 100% sure I understand it 20:04:07 I think it's saying "this will be defined by link-time (declared & defined somewhere we aren't #including)" 20:05:01 mostly, yes. but it also includes information about it that you can't get just from the link time thing (think function prototypes and return types) 20:05:42 PleasingFungus: anyway, that code looks too modern, in the past it would have used cprintf ;) 20:05:53 probably someone modernized it at some point 20:05:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: means "I am declaring this, not defining it" 20:06:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you'd also use 'extern' in a header file 20:06:08 I know it dates back very far, at least the char f[2] part 20:06:09 (yes, C++ encodes that kind of thing in the link time symbol --- but that means to *find* the symbol, you need to use a compatible extern declaration) 20:06:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: but it's superfluous on functions 20:06:32 (C doesn't --- so you can get to the link time thing easily but use a function as a value or etc.) 20:06:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: (because a function prototype is automatically extern when you are using it at file scope) 20:06:53 wow, 4.1 had std::vector 20:06:58 huh 20:07:06 @ |amethyst 20:07:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:12:46 noober (L3 VpSk) ASSERT(item.sub_type == CORPSE_BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed. (D:2) 20:13:22 !lm noober x=vlong 20:13:23 311. [2015-01-30 02:12:45] [vlong=0.16-a0-3834-g51c8674] noober the Charmwright (L3 VpSk) ASSERT(item.sub type == CORPSE BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed on turn 1659. (D:2) 20:13:37 !crashlog noober 20:13:38 1. noober, XL3 VpSk, T:1659 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/noober/crash-noober-20150130-021245.txt 20:14:19 did it skeletise during drinking? 20:14:45 plausible 20:14:54 I think we saw that bug once before 20:15:19 !lm * noun~~se_body 20:15:19 13. [2015-01-30 02:12:45] noober the Charmwright (L3 VpSk) ASSERT(item.sub type == CORPSE BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed on turn 1659. (D:2) 20:15:23 !lm * noun~~se_body -2 20:15:24 12/13. [2015-01-20 17:21:03] Skiberibeda the Sneak (L2 VpEn) ASSERT(item.sub type == CORPSE BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed on turn 264. (D:1) 20:15:29 !lm * noun~~se_body -3 20:15:30 !lm * noun~~se_body -4 20:15:31 11/13. [2015-01-06 19:10:56] Gronka the Covert (L5 VpAs) ASSERT(item.sub type == CORPSE BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed on turn 2829. (D:3) 20:15:32 10/13. [2014-12-15 00:47:24] PolkaDot the Maledictor (L17 VpEn of Ashenzari) ASSERT(item.sub type == CORPSE BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed on turn 46716. (Spider:4) 20:15:34 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:17:15 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:06 <|amethyst> The corpse you are drinking from rises to join your ranks! 20:18:32 how does that happen 20:18:44 <|amethyst> could either abort the delay when that happens, or prevent rotting when is_being_drained 20:18:54 <|amethyst> nicolae-: presumably an ally with animate dead 20:19:06 I could swear there was code to abort the delay in that case 20:19:09 ah 20:19:19 no, there's a check in mon-cast.cc to prevent them from doing that 20:19:25 wheals: it's very new 20:19:26 only a month old 20:19:28 or maybe i deleted it 20:19:30 oh wait hm 20:19:39 !source mon-cast 20:19:39 the one for not animating a corpse you're animating might be older 20:19:40 Can't find mon-cast. 20:19:43 !source mon-cast.cc 20:19:43 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD 20:19:58 <|amethyst> ah 20:20:04 -!- mauris has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:20:07 !source animate_dead_okay 20:20:08 Can't find animate_dead_okay. 20:20:12 <|amethyst> they won't animate dead at all if you are feeding 20:20:13 !source _animate_dead_okay 20:20:14 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD#l1647 20:20:19 :) 20:20:42 reaping...? 20:21:06 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:35 how kind, they don't animate if you're hungry 20:21:57 even if there are only skeletons, i assume :P 20:22:19 <|amethyst> wheals: or even if you are a vampire and don't care 20:25:28 -!- spacet has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:30:06 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:26 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:33:15 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:39 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:36:18 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:37:37 -!- Yll has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:40:12 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:40:21 -!- bh_ is now known as bh 20:42:48 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:43:10 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:51 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:15 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:52:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:46 -!- tempman has quit [Client Quit] 20:57:56 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3842-ge1f4ab4: Preserve your experiences (PleasingFungus) 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1f4ab44cdd6 20:57:56 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3843-ged98c6c: New tiles for the new Ru sacrifices (ontoclasm) 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed98c6cc64dc 21:00:23 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:02:38 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:20 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:25 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:06:29 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:06:41 -!- heteroy_ is now known as heteroy 21:13:47 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:17:26 -!- Hurricos has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:19 -!- zerkmund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:19:04 -!- Waltt has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:19:14 Would Tiamat deserve a tile-and-a-half style icon? 21:22:16 if so, learn. hydra and royal jelly probably do too 21:28:13 -!- eternal_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:28:44 -!- dididi has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:29:50 <|amethyst> Lerny has one already 21:29:54 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:30:37 <|amethyst> Tiamat having one would be weird because she's SIZE_MEDIUM 21:31:10 Drawing one for Tiamat now; can make her fit in just taller than other dracs 21:31:19 Hope it doesn't end up sucking. 21:35:16 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:35:39 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:24 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:39:20 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:40:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:09 Hurricos: I'm concerned that we already have too many extra-tall sprites 21:41:17 diluting their specialness 21:41:42 Then I can conveniently make her just a smidge taller than other draconians, which would probably fit in the 32x32 21:42:09 sounds feasible 21:42:22 -!- Krakhan has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:42:25 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 21:42:25 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 21:43:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:45:11 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:45:26 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:50 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:50:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:50:32 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:50:56 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:58:38 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:25 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:03:48 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:56 -!- ldierk has quit [Changing host] 22:03:56 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:07 quick question about oka ammo gifts in .15 22:11:15 is it still based on skill levels, or on what i do? 22:11:30 because the dude is giving me throwing weapons even though all my missile skills are at 0 22:11:47 maybe he knows ive been throwing a lot of stones 22:11:47 it's still based on skill levels but there's no longer a cutoff at which he doesn't gift ammo 22:12:01 ah 22:12:16 does less missile skill mean less ammo and more weapons/armor? 22:12:32 or does it decide to gift ammo, and then look at skills to decide which kind? 22:12:48 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 22:12:54 no idea tbh 22:14:36 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:14:57 <|amethyst> it doesn't directly reduce the chance to get weapons/armour 22:15:04 <|amethyst> but 22:15:13 <|amethyst> there's the timeout 22:16:28 <|amethyst> i.e. if it gave you missiles it already decided not to give you a weapon/armour right now, but that does mean it will be longer before you get another gift 22:16:56 <|amethyst> !source religion.cc:1791 22:16:56 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/religion.cc;hb=HEAD#l1791 22:16:58 <|amethyst> and 22:17:05 <|amethyst> !source _need_missile_gift 22:17:05 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/religion.cc;hb=HEAD#l1429 22:17:31 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:18:26 and increasing ammo skill = more ammo gifted 22:18:28 ? 22:19:49 doesn't increase the gift rate, just hte proportion of gifts 22:21:59 -!- Pisano has quit [] 22:23:27 <|amethyst> ? 22:23:43 <|amethyst> missiles don't increase the timeout as much as armour and weapons 22:32:33 -!- agentgt has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:36 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:05 Rakshasa defensive illusions do no stop player constriction 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9459 by SaidTheAlligatorKingToHisSon 22:45:55 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47:09 -!- Waltt is now known as walterch 22:55:59 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:56 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 23:01:53 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:02:13 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:03:31 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:41 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 23:05:38 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 23:07:37 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:11:59 |amethyst: hey, i don't really understand monster-trunk. does it require a crawl checkout in the directory too? 23:13:00 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:47 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:13:59 <|amethyst> yes, in the subdirectory crawl-ref 23:15:07 <|amethyst> it links against most of crawl, but with its own main() 23:17:10 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:19:01 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:13 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3843-ged98c6c (34) 23:30:11 oh yeah. I was gonna say, we should probably feature freeze soon 23:30:18 maybe saturday or sunday 23:30:46 @PF, Tiamat tile (black) is almost done 23:31:05 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:31:21 Do you have any idea where I can find the dragonskin cloak doll sprite? 23:31:48 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:32:16 rltiles/player/cloak/dragonskin.png ? 23:33:03 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 23:34:07 Thank you much 23:35:06 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:35:11 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:21 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:40:01 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:43:22 !learn edit gammafunk[3] s/CeAM\^Oka // 23:43:23 gammafunk[3/12]: NaVM^Chei MiBe^(Trog->TSO->Zin;15-rune) DEAs^Kiku HOFE^Beogh 23:43:51 -!- bcarpe211 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:45:38 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:46:20 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:50:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:51:00 -!- speranza has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 35.0/20150108202552]] 23:52:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:53:07 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:30 Show travel exclusions in terrain view and optionally in viewport 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9460 by chris