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That sounds like a better system overall 01:07:31 gammafunk: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 01:08:44 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:13:50 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18:53 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:25:21 -!- schistosoma has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:29:02 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:30:48 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:36:02 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:08 -!- Devell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:46:07 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:20 -!- Menche has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:23 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:04:12 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:21:13 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3724-gf14d081 (34) 02:21:14 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:21:59 !tell Pleasingfungus I spawned many more fungi, does this please you? 02:21:59 AtomikKrab: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 02:22:29 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:22:41 manual still states you can untrap with ctrl+dir 02:22:53 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:25:24 git commit -am "disarm a trap in the manual" 02:26:16 -!- marsbars has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:31:07 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:32:43 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:41:27 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:44:18 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:01:27 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:04:32 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:16 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 03:13:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:15:03 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:19:16 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:13 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:23:58 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:24:04 -!- bonghitz 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-!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:19:33 -!- Ipsum has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:49 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:20:28 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:28:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:27 Gozag shop prices for mummies are buggy after the food shop cost changes. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9422 by nagdon 06:29:58 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 06:35:15 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 06:45:39 -!- Guest53897 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:47:46 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:04:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:04 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3725-g0c0e343: Don't give incorrect zap counts for unidentified wands 10(13 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c0e34303bd3 07:05:04 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.16-a0-3726-gd35d509: Slightly increase Oka piety gain 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d35d5093aadd 07:08:03 Hmm why does -arena not allow more than t:99 07:09:43 -!- Erashi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:12:11 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:33:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:17 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:35:38 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:13 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:44:23 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:48:34 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:27 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:05 -!- klopfdreh has quit [Client Quit] 07:57:34 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:02:12 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:25 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:12:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:18:28 -!- Brannock is now known as Brannock_ 08:20:00 -!- Anchorite has quit [Remote host 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strongly considering reverting the "gozag food shops are 2/3rds price" thing altogether. not only is the code ugly (fixable), but the mechanics are too: it's now possible (& common) to try to call merchants & only be able to buy a food shop 10:05:28 which I realized when implementing it, but I think underestimated 10:30:56 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:33:26 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:40:44 -!- abixa has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1] 10:47:19 -!- Ipsum has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:54:46 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:58:12 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:59:19 -!- booly-yam-5194_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:01:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:04:13 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:04:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:05:28 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3727-gff1288c (34) 11:06:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:11:32 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:12:10 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:12:52 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:31:12 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:37:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:21 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:41:27 solution: remove food shops 11:42:49 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 11:46:01 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:46:24 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 11:48:54 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:51:45 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:16 <|amethyst> Jafet: it's been that way since they were added... maybe it's important for FooTV? 11:52:40 kvaak: what, and let gozagites starve? 11:52:41 p rude, imo 11:52:59 they'd be better off that way. poor sods. 11:55:25 oh yeah can i remove duplication yet/does anyone else have plans for making gozag release-ready 11:56:37 my last gozag game consisted of getting a free scroll of acquirement then abandoning him and suffering approximately no wrath for 2 floors of orc 11:57:05 nice 11:57:32 I don't have any objections to removing duplication, that's a dpeg thing 11:57:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:06 idk. possibly his ability prices should be tuned down, it feels like they take a long time to 'get started' 11:58:42 (oh yeah also i got a free 3k gold or something on top of the acquirement in that game) 11:59:05 sounds like something needs to be done about the wrath, then 11:59:16 it's sort of tricky i think because early on you just can't use potion petition more than once every few floors 11:59:30 but then later you just have more gold than you'd ever need? so i'm not sure how the abilities should scale sensibly 11:59:33 well 11:59:37 the abilities cost more every time they're used 11:59:41 so there's a built-in scaling there 11:59:52 reducing the prices basically means you get a few front-loaded 'extra uses' 12:00:07 maybe, i wasn't sure that the scaling was all that significant 12:00:08 perhaps it is 12:00:16 <|amethyst> is it exponential? 12:00:30 and yeah the wrath is very much non-functional 12:00:38 looks linear 12:00:44 !source GOZAG_SHOP_MOD_MULTIPLIER 12:00:44 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/;hb=HEAD 12:00:50 hrm 12:00:58 !source defines.h 12:00:58 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/defines.h;hb=HEAD 12:01:18 <|amethyst> ah, it's affine 12:01:30 <|amethyst> linear or affine means reducing the price isn't just a "free" use or two 12:01:41 <|amethyst> since you could reduce the multiplier 12:01:44 yeah I'd thought it was exponential 12:01:47 rip 12:02:50 ??gozag wrath 12:02:50 gozag wrath[1/2]: Abandonment: 25 penance. Penance: Picking up consumables sometimes turns them to gold. When a bribable enemy comes into view, Gozag may give them might, haste, or invisibility or berserk them. 10% of all gold you pick up goes to Gozag. Entering a level with a lot of gold may turn all the gold to stones. 12:03:07 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:37 oh yeah and you have to turn off autopickup for the wrath too 12:03:48 the taking gold thing is thematic but kind of useless 12:03:55 ?? gozag wrath[2 12:03:55 gozag wrath[2/2]: While under Gozag penance, attempting to drink a potion has a 20% chance to fail. 12:03:58 (taking gold / turning gold to stone) 12:04:05 because the thing with switching away from gozag is that you no longer care about gold 12:04:11 even moreso than in games where you never had gozag in the first place 12:04:40 the taking gold thing is a lot of what makes the whole thing non-functional because he just takes some small fraction of your orc gold and then the wrath's over, also 12:06:30 making it just exploration-based and just having him summon/bribe monsters and do the potion thing might work better, as long as he can send monsters at you in non-bribable branches 12:06:32 which he can't currently 12:06:53 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 12:08:07 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:08:54 I think I'll take a shot at some changes tonight. 12:10:25 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:40 <|amethyst> re turning objects into gold, what about doing that on LOS instead of pickup? 12:12:07 <|amethyst> I guess that's just even more annoying, trying to avoid it for items you already knew about 12:12:45 melllvar (L27 DEFE) ASSERT(!actor_at(newpos)) in 'spl-tornado.cc' at line 428 failed. (Zig:25) 12:13:13 do it when you attempt to use consumables, instead of on pickup 12:13:44 he already has that for potions anyway, so yeah it doesn't really need to happen on pickup too 12:14:09 reasonable 12:16:06 tlhonmey (L26 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster swamp worm failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 12:18:42 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:04 But, because there were two doors, that made me close the wrong"and leave myself adjacent to the hydragon"...we have to remind neil to report bugs like this 12:19:20 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:19:28 the hydragon should only appear at the appointed time in the End of Days 12:21:05 the Serpent of Hell (05D) | Spd: 14 | HD: 20 | HP: 320 | AC/EV: 16/12 | Dam: 3504(fire:20-39) per head | 05demonic, 04breaks doors, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(180), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: {head 1: fire breath (3d40), head 2: fireball (3d31), head 3: hellfire (3d20)} [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], sum.dragon [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 12:21:05 <|amethyst> %??serpent of hell 12:21:08 <|amethyst> hydragon 12:21:30 <|amethyst> just need to make it grow more heads 12:21:33 indeed, I hear it has even killed notable fungi... 12:21:58 <|amethyst> not that I expect to see SoH anytime soon 12:22:17 <|amethyst> I have to get another 3-to-5-rune win before I try extended :) 12:22:32 !hs neil 12:22:33 10100. Neil the Faith Healer (L27 HOHe of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-10-04 20:54:19, with 1318561 points after 99008 turns and 8:11:47. 12:22:52 !hs |amethyst 12:22:52 10101. Neil the Faith Healer (L27 HOHe of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-10-04 20:54:19, with 1318561 points after 99008 turns and 8:11:47. 12:23:18 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:23:25 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:23:33 <|amethyst> If it hadn't been three years since I last won, I might go for extended, but I need the confidence boost first :) 12:23:41 Fair enough :) 12:23:48 <|amethyst> (that HOHe was the last) 12:24:20 fr: neilextendedrobin 12:24:52 <|amethyst> don't think that would work very well 12:25:29 <|amethyst> it's hard to make myself care about I character I haven't invested effort into 12:25:34 <|amethyst> s/I ch/a ch/ 12:25:41 rPois- artifact described as "It protects you from poison." 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9423 by josh 12:26:19 . . . happy April Fools? 12:30:15 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:36:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:43:12 a little early 12:43:49 That's part of the prank. 12:43:54 it protects you from a horrible, slow painful death by poison by killing you fast! 12:46:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:07 !lg |amethyst !@neil 12:51:07 1. ElvishCostello the Charmwright (L4 HESk), slain by an orc (a -1,+1 orcish short sword) on D:3 on 2012-08-20 05:11:19, with 246 points after 2588 turns and 0:08:29. 12:51:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:54:03 -!- Leissi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:54:29 -!- Leissi_ is now known as Leissi 12:58:01 tlhonmey (L26 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster shadow wraith failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 12:59:39 <|amethyst> !lm * begin recent / alive 12:59:46 13641/835236 milestones for * (begin recent): N=13641/835236 (1.63%) 12:59:46 -!- Dynast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:59:48 <|amethyst> !lm * zotdef recent / alive 12:59:49 513/9035 milestones for * (zotdef recent): N=513/9035 (5.68%) 13:00:17 <|amethyst> oop 13:00:21 <|amethyst> !lm * zotdef begin recent / alive 13:00:21 216/4210 milestones for * (zotdef begin recent): N=216/4210 (5.13%) 13:00:34 !lg * recent zotdef / boring 13:00:34 467/4008 games for * (recent zotdef): N=467/4008 (11.65%) 13:00:45 <|amethyst> !lg * recent / boring 13:00:48 89249/823701 games for * (recent): N=89249/823701 (10.84%) 13:01:17 1kw boring quitting|leaving|zotdef 13:01:51 <|amethyst> I had thought the zotdef begin recent / alive was higher, but I had been looking at the wrong numbers 13:05:14 -!- booly-yam-5194_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:07:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:09:15 !lg * zotdef recent s=name 13:09:16 4008 games for * (zotdef recent): 154x onget, 95x clara, 80x Excalibur, 60x runewalsh, 55x BluebellGnoll, 53x twillightdoom, 53x tlhonmey, 50x Xen, 49x crazyfist, 48x JaridTorvin, 46x ilii, 44x HarmlessChicken, 43x robotjosh2, 42x tomasdelima, 39x sargx, 38x Whiskey, 38x Pesado, 38x thenidhogg, 36x haldagan, 35x Tiropat, 34x nsb, 34x ClockworkSoul, 33x gogolfirst, 33x Klutz, 33x Coldmage, 33x Grav... 13:09:33 !lg * zotdef recent x=cdist(name),cdist(gid) 13:09:34 4008 games for * (zotdef recent): cdist(name)=743; cdist(game_key)=4008 13:09:46 ??faith 13:09:46 amulet of faith[1/2]: Piety increases one third faster. Yes, this means you get more gifts. Good gods save you more frequently. Xom has more dynamic piety and acts more often. Removing the amulet reduces your piety (-1/3). 13:09:51 ??faith[2 13:09:51 ru[1/6]: Ru grants great power to adherents who renounce the world by making sacrifices. Worshippers are periodically offered a choice of three sacrifices, and gain piety for accepting one of them. The offers are refreshed more slowly if you ignore them, more quickly with faith. Removing faith causes the next sacrifice to be delayed with no piety loss. 13:09:53 !lg * zotdef recent x=cdist(gid)/cdist(name) 13:09:53 No keyword 'cdist' 13:09:58 !lg * recent zotdef won s=name 13:09:58 7 games for * (recent zotdef won): 3x Excalibur, jefkin, dis, damdam, BluebellGnoll 13:10:10 !lg * zotdef recent x=${cdist(gid)}/${cdist(name)} 13:10:11 Type mismatch: cdist(name) in 'cdist(name) cvnum>=1400099000000' 13:10:11 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:10:15 Lasty_: looks like with faith I should just wear until I'm done accepting sacrifices 13:10:20 gammafunk: yes 13:10:22 k 13:10:40 any idea how to get the average number of games per player? 13:11:09 I assume you'd filter out players with no games 13:11:20 oh but those don't even show 13:11:21 right 13:11:45 !lg * zotdef recent x=${cdist(gid)/cdist(name)} 13:11:45 4008 games for * (zotdef recent): cdist(game_key)/cdist(name)=5 13:11:49 oh 13:12:07 !lg * recent x=${cdist(gid)/cdist(name)} 13:12:14 823736 games for * (recent): cdist(game_key)/cdist(name)=55 13:12:54 now i can't remember what i was looking for 13:14:22 <|amethyst> hm 13:14:24 <|amethyst> migth prefer 13:14:28 <|amethyst> s/gth/ght/ 13:14:31 <|amethyst> !lg * zotdef recent x=${1.0*cdist(gid)/cdist(name)} 13:14:31 4008 games for * (zotdef recent): 1.0*cdist(game_key)/cdist(name)=5.39 13:14:58 <|amethyst> maybe there's another way to convert to float? neither float() nor double() works 13:15:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:03 wheals: I hope you are doing zotdef queries because you are thinking of disabling zotdef 13:18:19 who isn't? 13:19:02 I am not not thinking of it, I will tell you that. 13:19:20 That's not true, I just read PleasingFungus' mind, he is in fact thinking of it 13:19:40 that's what I said. 13:19:45 <|amethyst> gammafunk is an intuitionist 13:19:51 <|amethyst> doesn't believe in double negation 13:20:06 <|amethyst> s/in /in the axiom of / 13:20:09 I can't not agree. 13:20:28 No anytime PleasingFungus speaks I just add a negation to what he says 13:20:30 I vote we let felids and healers fight against zotdef and hope that they're all killed in the battle. 13:20:36 -!- Sczcya has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:39 tlhonmey (L26 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster swamp worm failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 13:22:02 intuitionism is too nethackish for my tastes 13:22:40 http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Andries_Brouwer 13:22:48 anyone have any more thoughts about https://bpaste.net/raw/f4cdd6812ab9 ? 13:22:53 <|amethyst> wheals: ha! 13:24:17 !source execstring 13:24:17 1/1. http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/clua.cc;hb=HEAD#l219 13:24:38 lua_call_throttle strangler(this); 13:24:41 good line 13:27:56 !cmd !source 13:27:57 Built-in: !source => https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/commands/source.pl 13:27:58 !cmd !vault 13:27:58 Built-in: !vault => https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/commands/source.pl 13:28:41 * wheals grumbles about unnecessary builtin aliases 13:28:43 heh 13:29:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:30:35 I think vault will only look for des matches in des files 13:30:43 <|amethyst> wheals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._E._J._Brouwer http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000438/ 13:30:48 <|amethyst> wheals: the resemblance is uncanny 13:31:41 :P 13:32:08 -!- Leissi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:54 elliptic: I guess using the lua table initialization syntax is not much more compact than doing one table[key] = value entry per line 13:33:58 for stringify_table, I mean 13:35:31 <|amethyst> oh, it evaluates the whole file at once 13:35:42 <|amethyst> I was thinking that was because it evaluated one line at a time 13:36:10 <|amethyst> oh, uh 13:36:19 <|amethyst> does the current version work with nested tables? 13:36:43 <|amethyst> oh, I guess it does 13:36:54 <|amethyst> foo = {} 13:36:54 <|amethyst> foo["bar"] = {} 13:37:01 <|amethyst> foo["bar"]["baz"] = 3 13:37:57 gammafunk: yeah... maybe I should use the actual syntax for initializing the table all at once but that seemed somewhat more annoying 13:38:56 at least in terms of having readable indentation 13:39:15 yeah, to get something readable for longer tables you'd have to do more fiddling 13:39:52 ...call out to emacs in lua mode to format the file... 13:40:40 for a longer example of the sort of thing that this produces (local qw doing a few things): https://bpaste.net/raw/c1ee60e66f06 13:42:33 hrm, can you make a "table reference" in lua to use a shorter alias for those lines? 13:43:13 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:01 ah, seems you can 13:44:08 > t = {} 13:44:08 > u = t 13:44:08 > u.foo = "bar" 13:44:08 > = t.foo 13:44:15 bar 13:44:43 <|amethyst> yes, but then you have to worry about variable names 13:44:47 elliptic: so if you'd like, you could make a line like p = c_persist 13:44:56 I guess so 13:44:56 if we are going to worry about size issues then I should just figure out how to initialize the table all at once 13:45:01 sure 13:46:03 <|amethyst> elliptic: I might copy the lua comment about loading persist.lua immediately before c_persist into the C++ too 13:46:16 <|amethyst> elliptic: well, not copy, but paraphrase 13:46:23 yeah, probably a good idea 13:47:11 will be nice to have this; I'll have to think of how I could use it for RandomTiles 13:48:13 btw, I'm pretty sure that the clua memory allocator will keep players from being able to make very large .persist files regardless 13:48:57 yeah, I guess only reading in very large files might be an issue somehow, but they'd have to make it first 13:50:07 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:52:33 <|amethyst> you can use up to 2MB of memory, but could expand that into somewhat more text 13:53:07 <|amethyst> e.g. c_persist["1 MB long string here"] = {1,2,3,4,5,6,...} 13:53:26 <|amethyst> I'm not terribly worried about that though 13:53:46 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:54:19 |amethyst: the text is created inside clua though 13:54:41 <|amethyst> ahhh 13:54:45 <|amethyst> sounds good then :) 13:55:32 <|amethyst> you can probably eat more disk by holding down ctrl-r anyway 13:55:46 <|amethyst> (ttyrecs) 13:56:04 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:56:09 yeah, or even without ttyrecs you can make your morgue files really long by making notes 13:57:00 <|amethyst> and your save for that matter 13:57:16 <|amethyst> which you can back up multiple times :) 13:57:52 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:58:09 <|amethyst> TL;DR: the servers are fucked if anyone tries seriously enough 13:59:43 well 14:00:04 there's a difference between "servers are fucked if someone tries real hard" and "servers are fucked if someone runs a lua one-liner" 14:00:18 but we might already be in the second position so dik 14:00:19 *idk 14:02:27 <|amethyst> If you wanted to do more than DOS, though, Crawl isn't the part I'd be looking at 14:02:38 <|amethyst> rather, dgamelaunch and especially ee and virus 14:03:08 -!- gammafun1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:05:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:27 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:06:44 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:07:08 -!- Basil is now known as Guest95927 14:09:44 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:28 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:14:46 -!- Brannock__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:27 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:19:54 tlhonmey (L26 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster oklob plant failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:22:49 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 14:23:39 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:23:55 tlhonmey (L26 DEWz) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster kraken failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 14:25:15 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:26:07 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:31:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:35:08 -!- Yll has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:35:31 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:35:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:31 hm, zotdef crashes 14:38:18 <|amethyst> Inasmuch as zotdef should exist at all, it should not be spawning immobile or water-/lava-bound enemies 14:38:35 <|amethyst> though I'm not sure about 14:38:39 <|amethyst> !lm * crash zotdef -4 14:38:39 473/476. [2015-01-21 18:58:00] tlhonmey the Sorcerer (L26 DEWz of Sif Muna) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster shadow wraith failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot) 14:38:46 <|amethyst> !lm * crash zotdef -4 -log 14:38:46 473. tlhonmey, XL26 DEWz, T:10305 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/tlhonmey/crash-tlhonmey-20150121-185800.txt 14:39:09 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:41:17 -!- worldfamousw has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:43:58 -!- Guest95927 is now known as Basil 14:44:48 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:47 -!- ark_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50:23 -!- Sczcya has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:52:01 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:26 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 14:55:05 here's a new stringify_table format: https://bpaste.net/raw/a6f7298cbaaa 14:55:26 if anyone feels strongly about the spacing etc then I can change it before pushing... 14:55:48 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:57:23 -!- tempname has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:58:52 -!- Brannock__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:02:20 PleasingFungus: have you seen glopop 15:02:31 what 15:02:49 !source glopop 15:02:50 Can't find glopop. 15:02:56 >:( 15:03:02 !source dgn-labyrinth.cc 15:03:02 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dgn-labyrinth.cc;hb=HEAD 15:04:24 past line 94 15:05:58 GLOPOP 15:06:06 GlowPop 15:06:25 -!- gammafun1 is now known as gammafunk 15:06:39 I should make another vault at some point 15:06:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:07:06 i think glopop deserves more than a vault 15:07:08 personally 15:07:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:26 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:07:53 it got a tweet! 15:07:55 what more could you want? 15:08:32 an axe, perhaps 15:08:33 :P 15:08:37 rude 15:08:47 do not axe glopop. 15:08:51 glopop is my friend. 15:09:14 delicious, delicious glow pop 15:09:15 s 15:09:23 GLOP ON OP 15:10:30 maybe I'll make some decorative lair vaults for hangedman 15:10:42 I forget what exactly he wanted 15:10:47 something about penultimate floor vaults 15:11:56 he has a list 15:12:01 forget the entry though 15:12:06 ?/decorative 15:12:06 Matching entries (2): mold[1] | vaults_needed[1] 15:12:11 ??vaults_needed 15:12:11 vaults needed[1/1]: according to hangedman: decorative vaults for all branches (emphasis: lair branches bar swamp, crypt, hells), renewing serial vaults (e.g. curves.des, corridor.des), less plain bazaar entries, abyss entry vaults, more special rooms, ashenzari overflows, layout_pan_divisions quadrant subvaults 15:12:12 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:16 that's the one 15:12:19 moldy vaults needed 15:12:22 ??mold 15:12:23 mold[1/1]: Giant spores trail this behind them. Fedhasites can use {evolution[2]} to turn it into wandering mushrooms. When active ballistomycetes die, the mold trails flash to indicate where other ballistomycetes are. Otherwise, decorative. 15:12:39 wheals: PleasingFungus is probably qualified to make a good mold vault 15:12:48 huh 15:12:53 who knew you could evolve it 15:12:57 I did 15:13:04 but only because I rewrote the relevant code at some point 15:13:07 well you would 15:13:11 yes, well. 15:13:19 can you even place mold in vaults 15:13:19 I have one fedhas win and I may never have another 15:13:38 well I mean 15:13:42 !lg * sif s=name 15:13:43 78822 games for * (sif): 727x Kave, 665x gammafunk, 569x 4thArraOfDagon, 472x Darmok, 434x aTarkinC, 417x silentsnack, 405x buffalo66, 329x Bruce, 313x Sorbius, 292x Sky, 278x Johan, 266x minmay, 262x clouded, 258x Ragdoll, 258x Celsitudo, 257x crawlie, 255x qtip, 235x m1nced, 227x Moose, 225x Orfax, 218x BirdoPrey, 217x PolkaDot, 214x Neil, 209x murphyslaw, 205x Avigdore, 205x jejorda2, 200x Dala... 15:13:56 !lg kave sif 15:13:57 727. kave the Grappler (L10 TrTm of Sif Muna), blasted by an orc warrior (wand of draining) in Bailey (bailey_axe_1) on 2015-01-04 07:37:31, with 7604 points after 8911 turns and 0:32:02. 15:14:08 this guy is just trolling me 15:14:27 !lg . trtm -2 15:14:27 5/6. perunasaurus the Brawler (L14 TrTm of Sif Muna), slain by a blue devil (summoned by an orc sorcerer) on Orc:4 on 2014-07-23 13:50:14, with 68216 points after 26231 turns and 1:16:20. 15:14:57 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:14:57 !lg * trtm sif 15:14:58 600. Duskembrace the Grappler (L10 TrTm of Sif Muna), slain by a hippogriff on D:9 on 2015-01-21 13:55:11, with 4729 points after 8105 turns and 0:30:15. 15:15:03 !lg * trtm sif !boring 15:15:03 599. Duskembrace the Grappler (L10 TrTm of Sif Muna), slain by a hippogriff on D:9 on 2015-01-21 13:55:11, with 4729 points after 8105 turns and 0:30:15. 15:15:06 holy crap 15:15:09 !lg * trtm sif !boring won 15:15:09 No games for * (trtm sif !boring won). 15:15:12 haha 15:15:22 !lg * trtm sif !boring s=name 15:15:22 599 games for * (trtm sif !boring): 500x Kave, 15x nmf, 8x codrus, 6x dragonrage, 5x cryo, 5x scwizard, 4x zenzei, 4x Rogar, 4x 78291, 3x perunasaurus, 3x Duskembrace, 2x tcircuits, 2x Jaeger, 2x KHekkus, 2x Algernon, 2x splat, 2x AC130, yap, Leibowitz, Fungee, Grisamentum, Hirasi, lakren, Stathol, Oblivion, Chog, trollherra, Demi, Ditheos, clouded, jejorda2, odiv, Tossi, Pseudonut, evil, Baccano,... 15:15:31 I'd have one but, well 15:15:32 ?? offline 15:15:33 offline[1/1]: doesn't count 15:16:06 gammafunk: !boring won 15:16:10 good query 15:16:11 have a hard time seeing why a tr would really want to use tmut 15:16:20 PleasingFungus: just used irc history and added it 15:16:26 since that's less typing right? 15:16:56 unless your Irc for Dummies client doesn't have command history 15:17:22 it does, of course 15:17:26 I just wanted to razz you 15:17:27 -!- krynn has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:17:28 -!- krynn` is now known as krynn 15:17:29 gammafunk: not a fan of Fedhas? 15:17:41 Lasty_: are you surprised? 15:17:46 hm, I wonder 15:17:47 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:17:49 !lg * fedhas gh 15:17:49 No games for * (fedhas gh). 15:17:53 gammafunk: spider and statue form are pretty useful on trolls 15:17:58 hoping for more like the dgbe 15:17:59 hrm 15:18:10 well spider form less now that you only get the ev 15:18:15 gammafunk: I don't really know that much about your playstyle, aside from an interest in speed running and HESu 15:18:20 Oh, wait, no 15:18:23 s2s is also useful for 15:18:32 I shouldn't be surprised. Now I remember our convo about fun gods 15:18:34 non-qazites, I guess (possibly also qazites) 15:18:40 but tr is like one of the two races where statue form actually sort of makes sense, the other one being op 15:18:40 Lasty_: well fedhas has an extremely powerful and pretty fun early ability, but I don't much like his later ones 15:18:56 sunlight & rain are both really weird abilities 15:18:59 reproduction is cool tho 15:19:05 gammafunk: Fedhas isn't my favorite god, but it sure does help with the winning 15:19:06 oh I forgot growth 15:19:13 minmay: you'd take slow action over....oh do they still get the claws 3 damage? 15:19:16 in statue, I mean 15:19:20 gammafunk: yes 15:19:21 Stone Claws 15:19:29 that's pretty good I guess 15:19:32 -!- ark_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:20:10 i was going to say ice form too but i think no one thinks ice form is good on anything except for me and crate 15:20:14 so i won't bother 15:20:38 Lasty_: yeah it's just using oklobs can be pretty tedious. I guess the spore ability might be better than I think it is, but 15:20:47 no way I love ice form! 15:20:52 great form 15:20:53 Spores are pretty good at, say, Orc:4 15:21:02 I rarely make use of them, but maybe that's a mistake 15:21:22 yeah but is orc for really all that hard anyway; seems mushrooms would be perfectly good there as well 15:21:25 the problem with reproduction is that any time i would use spores, i would rather use mushrooms instead 15:21:30 I was playing Og so maybe that skewed it 15:21:32 because mushrooms are insane 15:21:39 yeah that was my feeling 15:21:42 yup 15:21:50 and mushrooms don't take fruit 15:21:55 do spores? I can't recall 15:22:17 i don't think so but i don't remember either, because of what I just said 15:22:24 Lasty_: I got marked so my z:5 oklob farm only took out like 4 oof, some liches and other stuff, but I was actually relieved 15:22:36 got to clear the rest of it normally and it was just more fun 15:22:42 haha 15:22:44 fair nuff 15:22:54 Oklob-farming is a sometimes food 15:24:50 Admittedly, I pretty much only worship Fedhas when I really want to win for some reason 15:25:05 !lm . 15:25:06 11647. [2015-01-21 20:41:59] gammafunk the Martial Artist (L12 VSWz of Ru) sacrificed purity: dopiness (-2 Int) on turn 16290. (Lair:2) 15:25:13 this one could make it 15:25:15 oh yeah, how's that coming along? 15:25:27 pretty fine so far, think I'm 3* 15:25:50 stealth, arcana (charms,ice,something), and the dopy one 15:26:42 !lm Gammafunk noun=arcana 15:26:42 2. [2015-01-21 20:23:59] gammafunk the Martial Artist (L11 VSWz of Ru) sacrificed arcana: Ice, Transmutation, and Charms on turn 13657. (Lab) 15:26:44 I'm uc so the passive were doing some from like 2* at least, I think my previous ru char that got anywhere got not much until the abilities came online 15:26:55 oh yeah trans, good sac 15:26:58 You sacrificed tmut on a UC-focused character? 15:27:06 yeah vs 15:27:08 spores do not take fruit 15:27:10 heh, true 15:27:23 still, blade hands is compatible w/ bites 15:27:28 but not a big deal 15:27:35 yeah 15:27:41 I find them situationally useful; you can often get many of them in a turn, which is an advantage over wandering shrooms 15:27:56 !log . vstm 15:27:56 3. perunasaurus, XL26 VSTm, T:50840: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/perunasaurus/morgue-perunasaurus-20140808-170334.txt 15:28:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28:20 Lasty_: I guess I kind of just didn't want to go the transmutations route on a Wz 15:28:26 but maybe that means I shouldn't have gone uc 15:29:02 !lm gammafunk id=12874291 verb=sacrifice s=noun 15:29:03 One milestone for gammafunk (id=12874291 verb=sacrifice): purity 15:29:51 !lm gammafunk gid=20150021184937 verb=sacrifice s=noun 15:29:52 No milestones for gammafunk (gid=20150021184937 verb=sacrifice). 15:29:56 plantdragon should totally keep the antimagic bite 15:30:39 !lm gammafunk game_key=gammafunk:cszo:20150021184937S verb=sacrifice s=noun 15:30:39 4 milestones for gammafunk (game_key=gammafunk:cszo:20150021184937S verb=sacrifice): purity, courage, arcana, stealth 15:30:49 how's sac courage working out for you? 15:31:03 oh right 15:31:17 yeah that scared me (ha) when I first heard about it, but it doesn't seem too bad in practice 15:31:30 gammafunk: it's particularly nasty in V:5 and Zot 15:31:38 I guess my problem is I don't have a good sense of "how do fights go differently with sac courage" 15:32:01 kind of like being corroded? 15:32:09 yeah, but it affects magic too 15:32:17 and not defenses 15:32:28 I got some horr-6 but it didn't seem to slow me down too much 15:32:34 I do have slaying bonus though 15:32:36 well, you are VS 15:32:43 &dump gammafunk 15:32:44 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 15:32:46 horrosion 15:33:10 horrosion is probably horrible if you have a habit of horrying through depths and zot like me 15:33:12 contoam rpois ring, gee who can I blame for that 15:33:32 !lm kvaak br.enter=depths min=xl 15:33:33 THANKS, LASTY 15:33:33 96. [2014-07-15 14:46:24] perunasaurus the Messiah (L15 HOWn of Beogh) entered the Depths on turn 32029. (D:15) 15:33:49 !lm . br.enter=depths min=xl 15:33:49 15. [2014-08-15 03:32:05] gammafunk the Convoker (L16 HESu of Sif Muna) entered the Depths on turn 23147. (D:15) 15:33:56 Dithmenos doesn't care about or suppress Demonspawn fire blood mutation 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9424 by thromnambular 15:34:06 oo, good report 15:34:14 !lm . orb x=avg(xl) 15:34:15 76 milestones for kvaak (orb): avg(xl)=24.38 15:34:18 anyway, I still feel like one level of corrosion might be too weak - some way in which the first stack is a little more significant maybe 15:34:19 idk 15:34:19 PleasingFungus is getting fired up! 15:34:26 * PleasingFungus burns with passion! 15:34:37 well it gets real nasty real fast 15:34:39 (and z:5 has a metric ton of exp since oofs and aliches are worth like one xl) 15:34:50 !lm . orb x=avg(xl) 15:34:50 22 milestones for gammafunk (orb): avg(xl)=26.82 15:34:56 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 8519 | Sp: b.fire (3d40) [06!sil], fireball (3d43) [06!sil], malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: normal. 15:34:56 %??orb of fire 15:34:57 !lm . orb x=min(xl) 15:34:57 22 milestones for gammafunk (orb): min(xl)=25 15:35:07 sure, multiple stacks work fine 15:35:21 !lm . orb x=min(xl) 15:35:21 23 milestones for wheals (orb): min(xl)=22 15:35:24 but it's more of a problem with something like corrosive bolt, which rarely is cast enough to apply more than one stack 15:35:24 !lm . br.end=zot x=avg(xl) 15:35:25 85 milestones for kvaak (br.end=zot): avg(xl)=23.36 15:35:27 must have been the felid 15:35:32 which is basically just an irrelevant nothing in your status list 15:35:39 well I guess it's just a difference of one xl but bleh 15:35:46 it's still a lot for one floor 15:35:49 PleasingFungus: I'm going to tell tabstorm right away of this 15:36:04 He complains every other day of how PleasingFungus ruined both rpois and rcorr 15:36:24 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:28 dang 15:36:38 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:37:33 hm. does anyone have objections to https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=203770#p203770 as an implementable? it sounds reasonable enough 15:38:21 yeah sounds nice 15:38:47 that's a pretty neat idea 15:39:01 Ely follower using axe adjacent to enemy and neutral hits neutral 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9425 by XuaXua 15:39:13 that's a duplicate 15:39:17 i think 15:39:46 make it have a joke entry about an "Ye Olde Extra Fancy Rune" in Elf 15:39:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:13 yes 15:41:21