00:08:27 -!- gammafun1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:10:13 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:10:36 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3691-gf72e470 (34) 00:12:45 Phantom Mirror: TSO doesn't mind cloning demons 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9412 by johnnyzero 00:14:51 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21:03 -!- booly-yam-9856 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:22:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:32:46 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:15 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:38:11 Fan of Gales: Angering TSO allies with collisions does not anger TSO 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9413 by johnnyzero 00:39:52 -!- Silurio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:40:10 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:45:29 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:27 -!- nowfeel has quit [Client Quit] 00:53:30 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:06:18 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:12:47 -!- booly-yam-9856 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:15:54 so I'm getting "Xom thinks this is hilarious!" all the time while resting/exploring while wielding lantern of shadows 01:16:07 with no indication that anything actually happened 01:17:46 You start resting. 01:17:46 _Your shadow disappears in a puff of smoke! x9 01:17:46 _Xom thinks this is hilarious! 01:18:54 also it's always hilarious, never a lower interest message 01:20:50 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:00 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:26:03 -!- nowfeel has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:26:33 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:26:36 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 01:32:44 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:37 -!- gammafun1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:38:46 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:42:44 -!- moocowpong1 has left ##crawl-dev 01:45:01 -!- Mottikins_ is now known as FaMottie 01:45:10 -!- FaMottie is now known as FaMott 01:46:42 Mattybee (L19 HuFE) (Snake:2) 01:47:27 Mattybee (L19 HuFE) (Snake:2) 01:48:23 Mattybee (L19 HuFE) (Lair:3) 01:48:40 <|amethyst> !crashlog Mattybee 01:48:41 7. Mattybee, XL19 HuFE, T:62470 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Mattybee/crash-Mattybee-20150118-074803.txt 01:48:53 <|amethyst> filter_lang 01:49:16 <|amethyst> butts 01:50:02 Mattybee (L19 HuFE) (Shoals:1) 01:51:11 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:53:53 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:54:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3692-g7dfa0a8: Add a missing prototype. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7dfa0a844a0a 01:54:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3693-g848e0ea: Properly set the attitude for friendly monster beams (minmay) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=848e0ea26945 01:54:14 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3694-g4de5da1: Don't crash on one-letter butts. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4de5da18d9cf 01:54:49 <|amethyst> !learn add nfm[1] <+gammafunk> |amethyst: I've a patch for the webtiles-changes branch on dgamelaunch-config: http://sprunge.us/HONd?diff 01:54:50 nfm[1/4]: <+gammafunk> |amethyst: I've a patch for the webtiles-changes branch on dgamelaunch-config: http://sprunge.us/HONd?diff 01:55:23 <|amethyst> minmay: not sure if that was the only effect of that 01:56:48 |amethyst: ? 01:56:59 <|amethyst> %git 848e0ea 01:56:59 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3693-g848e0ea: Properly set the attitude for friendly monster beams (minmay) 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=848e0ea26945 01:57:02 oh I see 01:57:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3694-g4de5da1 (34) 01:57:24 I had it the invisibility message muted so that it would stop interrupting my autoexplore/autotravel 01:57:27 which it turns out didn't work 02:01:15 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:04:18 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 02:09:35 -!- SpaceT has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:33 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:11:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:12:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:21:22 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3694-g4de5da1 (34) 02:27:03 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:32:32 is it intended that xom gives -Potion to mummies? 02:38:25 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:57 -!- NotMyLeg has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 02:46:22 -!- wat has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:46:33 -!- booly-yam-9856 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:52:25 -!- Pepe has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 02:53:29 !tell gammafunk nice! you could have credited it as your own work, i wouldn't have minded :) 02:53:29 chequers: You have 2 messages. 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07:45:33 Shields skill not affecting miscasts while wearing a shield 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9414 by ManMan 07:45:37 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46:51 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:48:07 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49:34 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:20 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:51:14 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:52:02 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:26 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54:39 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:57:26 %git 07:57:26 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3694-g4de5da1: Don't crash on one-letter butts. 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4de5da18d9cf 07:57:55 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Read 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Use your powers wisely. 07:59:58 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:47 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8: Let shield skill fully affect penalty reduction again (ManMan) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3e2ed81a588 08:00:50 |amethyst: does CSZO not have a rebuild link? 08:01:07 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8 (34) 08:01:09 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:08 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:08:20 -!- Erashi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:10:39 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8 (34) 08:10:47 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8 (34) 08:10:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 08:11:25 %git a3e2ed8 08:11:26 07Lasty02 * 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8: Let shield skill fully affect penalty reduction again (ManMan) 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3e2ed81a588 08:22:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8 (34) 08:25:27 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8 (34) 08:31:53 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:11 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:40:24 -!- Erashi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:49:27 -!- vatarom has quit [Client Quit] 08:51:41 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3696-gd4fb522: Increase caustic shrike hd 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d4fb5226fc6d 08:54:51 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04:09 What has become of language=grunt? 09:06:04 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:11 <|amethyst> bh 09:06:16 <|amethyst> bh: fake_lang = grunt now 09:06:49 <|amethyst> %git 6c524ba0 09:06:49 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3687-g6c524ba: Support fakelang stacking 10(14 hours ago, 6 files, 140+ 86-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c524ba0fce9 09:08:30 <|amethyst> I would be in favour of making language = somefakelang recognise when the argument is a fake language, and set it as a single fake_lain instead 09:08:31 |amethyst: how dare you determine what's fake and what's real ;) 09:08:34 <|amethyst> s/lain/lang/ 09:10:44 <|amethyst> // Due to a historical conflict with actual german, slang names are supported. Not the really rudes ones, though. 09:10:49 <|amethyst> I wonder what the really rude ones are 09:11:07 <|amethyst> oh, I guess fake_lang = hitler would be ruder than the existing ones 09:11:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:17:22 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:17:24 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:56 -!- nowfeel has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:44:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:48:47 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:49:07 -!- nowfeel has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:39 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:59:21 -!- booly-yam-9856_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:01:47 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:47 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 10:05:10 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:07:22 -!- BadBadger has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 10:13:30 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3697-ga08d2de: Finish updating fake_lang docs 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a08d2de41096 10:16:37 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:18:38 Fake languages not working 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9415 by Haifisch 10:21:34 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:21:37 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:26:46 -!- cribozai has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:01 -!- cribozai has left ##crawl-dev 10:27:30 -!- fearitself has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:36 fearitself: success 10:28:48 ok so it looks like Ashenzari is giving dodging to me while wearing plate. Fully bound in armor. 10:29:29 That's probably my faul 10:29:29 t 10:29:33 !blame Lasty 10:29:34 I pronounce Lasty... Guilty! 10:29:55 heh, I don't mind who did it. Just thought someone should know :) 10:30:12 yeah, I'll look into it right away 10:30:26 Lasty: start at: godpassive.cc:573 10:30:38 Grunt: yeah 10:31:08 It's related to the new buckler fractional EV penalty 10:32:04 - const int evp = armour ? -property(*armour, PARM_EVASION) : 0; 10:32:04 + const int evp = armour ? -property(*armour, PARM_EVASION / 10) : 0; 10:32:06 um 10:32:26 yeah, you might want to move a ) there 10:32:26 :) 10:32:53 yeah 10:33:12 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:33:53 does godpassive.cc support PASV 10:34:03 You'll have to ask the respective gods <_< 10:34:28 I'm not 100% sure who supports the latest versions of the Faith Transfer Protocol. 10:35:24 <|amethyst> Trog says, "FTP must die!" 10:36:02 Hey |amethyst, whatever happened to sodairbiehc? 10:36:33 03Kvaak02 {Lasty} 07[bearkin] * 0.16-a0-3663-g956d265: Please enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting with '#' will be ignored, and an empty message aborts the commit. On branch bearkin Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/bearkin'. 10(23 hours ago, 8 files, 43+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=956d265ab2c4 10:36:33 03Kvaak02 {Lasty} 07[bearkin] * 0.16-a0-3664-g18c47d4: Please enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting with '#' will be ignored, and an empty message aborts the commit. On branch bearkin Your branch is ahead of 'origin/bearkin' by 1 commit. (use "git push" to publish your local commits) 10(18 hours ago, 6 files, 38+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=18c47d4e0235 10:36:33 03Lasty02 07[bearkin] * 0.16-a0-3665-g34c44b9: Fix an incorrect mutation listing crash 10(43 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34c44b97eb7a 10:36:33 03Lasty02 07[bearkin] * 0.16-a0-3666-gf33f429: Implement bearkin size shift, allow giant clubs and large rocks 10(43 minutes ago, 3 files, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f33f42979133 10:36:33 03Lasty02 07[bearkin] * 0.16-a0-3667-g690a316: Add in bearkin cornered berserk ability and status 10(3 minutes ago, 5 files, 36+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=690a316c71cf 10:36:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3698-g6b8f409: Support old rcs with language = grunt (#9415) 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 42+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b8f409b1da1 10:36:36 <|amethyst> haven't been able to get commit announcements to work right 10:36:53 actually I'd expect Trog to like old brute force stuff like FTP instead of IFMP+TLS >.> 10:36:58 <|amethyst> I figure it's something do do with changes from git 1 to 2 10:37:00 good commit messages 10:37:04 Lasty: amaz-- yes 10:37:10 <|amethyst> geekosaur: TROG LIKE ZMODEM! 10:37:50 kvaak: those are you commit messages :p 10:37:53 your 10:38:05 it never asked me where to put the damn things :( 10:38:34 try git commit -m "message" 10:38:46 and try to limit the message to 80 characters per line 10:42:30 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43:32 %git :/shield 10:43:33 07Lasty02 * 0.16-a0-3695-ga3e2ed8: Let shield skill fully affect penalty reduction again (ManMan) 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3e2ed81a588 10:45:05 I'm thinking that Ash bug is probably worth rebuilding servers for. Reasonable, or no? 10:46:00 !tell johnstein experimental bears are good to go if you're up for hosting 10:46:01 kvaak: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 10:46:14 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46:46 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3699-g1c51eb1: Fix Ash armour weight levels (fearitself) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c51eb15a663 10:48:07 -!- nowfeel has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:48:46 ??rebuild 10:48:46 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 10:49:07 -!- tumblemist is now known as Mattybee 10:50:19 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3699-g1c51eb1 (34) 10:51:47 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3699-g1c51eb1 (34) 10:52:31 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3699-g1c51eb1 (34) 10:53:15 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:53:50 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3699-g1c51eb1 (34) 10:56:22 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:37 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3699-g1c51eb1 (34) 11:00:26 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:04:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3700-g95dfad8: HANDLE LOUD BUTTS. 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 25+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=95dfad8c7537 11:09:49 -!- tw has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:12:30 why is there a butts language? lol 11:12:57 someone was having too much fun with the cloud-to-butt browser plugin? 11:13:04 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:21 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:40 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:25 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:53 <|amethyst> where does the config usually go on mac installs? 11:21:12 <|amethyst> I was going to give someone instructions on fake_lang 11:22:22 -!- Guest34144 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22:35 same as unix, ~/.crawlrc 11:28:10 Gravitas (L27 MiBe) (Tomb:1) 11:28:16 <|amethyst> !crashlog gravitas 11:28:17 1. Gravitas, XL27 MiBe, T:82063 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Gravitas/crash-Gravitas-20150118-172808.txt 11:28:26 -!- vatarom has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:28:52 <|amethyst> SIGTERM during I/O so I imagine a deliberate close 11:29:04 <|amethyst> hm 11:29:13 <|amethyst> a bunch of "You need to enable at least one skill for training." 11:29:32 <|amethyst> !lm gravitas x=tiles 11:29:32 216. [2015-01-18 17:28:08] [tiles=true] Gravitas the Invulnerable (L27 MiBe of Trog) (Tomb:1) 11:30:03 -!- booly-yam-9856_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:31:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:04 The build has errored. (bearkin - 690a316 #1573 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47434033 11:31:04 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:36:27 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:43:05 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:52 geekosaur: sorry, did you say 'cloud-to-butt' or 'butt-to-butt'? I'm running the cloud-to-butt irc plugin and sometimes I can't tell 11:47:26 bh: none of that kind of talk in this channel, final warning 11:48:29 there are *no* butts in crawl 11:48:38 * bh implements the 'gammafunk' language that translates gamma to butts 11:48:43 ! 11:49:46 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:30 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:51 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:58 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:59:55 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:00:51 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 12:04:23 should I put the experimentals on nightly rebuild? they are not currently 12:04:24 johnstein: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:04:59 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:10 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:58 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:27 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:09:44 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:23 -!- booly-yam-9856_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:12:14 -!- gressup has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:14:53 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:36 Experimental (bearkin) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3667-g690a316 12:20:45 Webtiles server restarted. 12:22:13 Webtiles server restarted. 12:26:01 -!- booly-yam-4795 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:27:41 ??autopickup 12:27:41 autopickup[1/4]: Autopickup is a function which allows you to automatically pick up items when you pass over them. Items which will be picked up automatically have green boxes around them in tiles. 12:28:53 -!- olourkin has quit [] 12:30:10 -!- Rotatell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:23 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:45 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:59 <|amethyst> !learn add autopickup From lowest-priority to highest: autopickup (by symbol) option < autopickup_exceptions option < add_autopickup_func < \ menu < ctrl-a 12:35:00 autopickup[5/5]: From lowest-priority to highest: autopickup (by symbol) option < autopickup_exceptions option < add_autopickup_func < \ menu < ctrl-a 12:35:43 <|amethyst> !learn e autopickup[5] s/add_aut/CLua add_aut/ 12:35:44 autopickup[5/5]: From lowest-priority to highest: autopickup (by symbol) option < autopickup_exceptions option < CLua add_autopickup_func < \ menu < ctrl-a 12:35:58 I noticed nothing was on autopickup when I started the bearkin 12:36:00 game 12:36:00 <|amethyst> !learn e autopickup[5] s/\\/backslash/ 12:36:01 autopickup[5/5]: From lowest-priority to highest: autopickup (by symbol) option < autopickup_exceptions option < CLua add_autopickup_func < backslash menu < ctrl-a 12:36:24 I remember reading parts of some autopickup discussions in here but I don't recall the details 12:37:00 <|amethyst> johnstein: hm, I would ask if the defaults/ directory didn't get copied for the expl branch, but I think you would get an error message at runtime 12:37:08 so I'm not sure if it's expected that my autopickup settings in my rc file aren't working anymore. or if it's a bearkin thing 12:37:49 <|amethyst> johnstein: did you give the branch a separate RC dir? 12:37:57 no 12:38:00 <|amethyst> hm 12:38:09 I will do some more testing 12:39:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:03 johnstein: autopickup has been broken for a while, bearkin hasn't touched it 12:39:13 (although it might've been fixed since in master) 12:39:38 <|amethyst> johnstein: oh 12:39:46 <|amethyst> johnstein: your rc has an add_autopickup_func I bet 12:40:13 &rc 12:40:15 http://crawl.develz.org/configs/trunk/perunasaurus.rc 12:40:17 <|amethyst> johnstein: you need to make it return nil (or fall of the end) instead of returning false 12:40:39 <|amethyst> now false means 'never pick this up' instead of 'keep the default' 12:40:45 <|amethyst> s/of the/off the/ 12:40:56 <|amethyst> &rc johnstein 12:40:58 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/johnstein.rc 12:41:19 so it was a change to the rc files? 12:41:29 <|amethyst> it was a change to how autopickup functions work 12:41:31 I confirmed that trunk gives me the same behavior 12:41:46 cool. I wasn't imagining things 12:41:54 <|amethyst> johnstein: in your case, you can just remove that return false 12:42:28 <|amethyst> kvaak: in yours you'd want to remove that last 'return false'... I'm not sure what the curare thing is supposed to be doing 12:42:34 it doesn't do anything 12:42:35 is that in the changelog too? 12:42:47 it used to pick up curare a long time ago in a galaxy far far away 12:43:12 <|amethyst> kvaak: then probably change that first 'return false' to 'return nil' and remove the second 'return false' 12:43:18 will do 12:44:53 |amethyst: TY FOR BUTT IMPROVEMENTS 12:44:58 very appreciated :) 12:45:40 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:00 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:00 The build has errored. (master - 1c51eb1 #1575 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47434981 12:46:00 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:46:14 ??bearkin 12:46:14 I don't have a page labeled bearkin in my learndb. 12:46:18 ! 12:47:44 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: :) 12:49:04 !learn add bearkin Experimental humanoid BEAR race, playable on cbro. Bearly playable at first but gets bearsome mutations as you level allowing you to eventually bear down on your enemies with reckless abandon. 12:49:05 bearkin[1/1]: Experimental humanoid BEAR race, playable on cbro. Bearly playable at first but gets bearsome mutations as you level allowing you to eventually bear down on your enemies with reckless abandon. 12:49:19 sounds unbearable 12:50:42 godless killing machines 12:51:56 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:10 aaand apparently I forgot to add the deformed body mut at some point. 12:54:18 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:54:29 So BEARS: the race 12:54:54 -!- Schizzik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:54:57 you should put the race abbreviation in learndb while you're at it 12:55:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:18 !learn add bearkin_reasons BeBe 12:55:18 bearkin reasons[1/1]: BeBe 12:55:29 is it Br? Be? Bk? 12:55:37 Hell yes 12:55:47 If they ever make it into trunk I know what I'm doing with them 12:56:05 BeAr 12:56:10 !lm 12:56:10 11017. [2015-01-12 15:29:51] perunasaurus the Insei (L1 OpMo) began the quest for the Orb on turn 0. (D:1) 12:56:13 what 12:56:20 i guess it isn't tracked :< 12:57:18 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:35 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:49 greensn@ark probably needs to add it before it gets tracked 12:58:00 uh, is there an easy way to overwrite any local modifications I have with git pull 12:58:00 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 12:58:22 git stash 12:58:27 kvaak: do you want to overwrite all local changes? 12:58:41 yes 12:58:48 (they're safe anyway) 12:59:54 then what pf said or git reset HEAD^ --hard 13:00:19 if you need to go back a few commits you can do HEAD~2, HEAD~3, etc 13:00:40 is there a way to use a virtual keyboard on lubuntu? 13:01:00 I'm stuck at full screen because my notebook doesn't have the right ctrl key 13:02:07 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:27 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:03 kvaak: yea. I still have to symlink the bearkin save dir and send it to snark 13:06:10 righto 13:06:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: one more for your butt 13:06:30 !lg * explbr=shoals-lite 13:06:31 9. zercules the Conjurer (L2 DECj), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1 on 2015-01-15 03:22:56, with 8 points after 247 turns and 0:03:32. 13:06:33 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:06:39 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3701-gd684eb7: Handle butt's. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 13+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d684eb7328fd 13:06:41 Lasty: HEAD^ is questionable 13:07:03 -!- booly-yam-4795 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:07:27 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:07:44 |amethyst: seems like another good place for a set 13:07:45 PleasingFungus: your butt is awful 13:07:51 == "your" || == "my || ... 13:07:55 gammafunk: rude. 13:08:11 Butt's Law 13:08:48 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so ends_with has a version that takes a set of strings (an array of char* actually, but still) 13:09:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: however, if you actually try it: ends_with(lctok, { "'s", "s'" }) guess what C++ thinks you mean? 13:09:21 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:09:29 er 13:09:43 not gonna try to guess 13:09:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: string() with two char iterators 13:09:51 c++ is engimatic & mysterious 13:09:55 huh 13:10:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: which doesn't work :) 13:10:09 i remember trying to do {x, y} for coord_defs 13:10:13 <|amethyst> well, not without crashing 13:11:08 <|amethyst> wheals: you should be able to now I think 13:11:13 hm 13:11:18 <|amethyst> wheals: at least if it's unambigous that it wants a coord_def there 13:11:25 I suppose someone else has to push even tiny patches like this, where do I put it? 13:11:46 it gave a lot of messages about trying pair, vector, etc., etc. 13:12:04 <|amethyst> yeah, if it's anything templated it doesn't work so well 13:12:21 anyway, i think there's some place in main.cc that can be simplified 13:13:50 <|amethyst> oh 13:13:58 <|amethyst> it's because the constructor is explicit 13:14:37 <|amethyst> it's explicit so you can't convert from an int accidentally, because the parameters are optional 13:14:50 <|amethyst> really they should be optional together, meaning two constructors 13:15:03 <|amethyst> well, one problem is 13:15:05 http://kgb.tappoi.kvaak.in/deform_bearkin.patch 13:15:08 <|amethyst> the thing you mentioned is different 13:16:31 -!- gressup has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:18:37 -!- kusayu_ has quit [Client Quit] 13:21:19 kvaak: yeah, you'll need assistance on every patch 13:21:57 Putting in a mantis ticket is the approved method, but you can pm me also 13:22:06 righto 13:22:19 -!- booly-yam-4795 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:22:26 -!- ChanServ has quit [shutting down] 13:23:11 !tell chequers Wouldn't want to take all the credit, since I did use a lot of your code and the idea! I'm still fairly concerned about the lack of interface on the janitor commands, mostly how to specify and generate one in a way that's useful. An table of parameters in each command entry with a required format regexp for each? 13:23:11 Maximum message length is 300 characters. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 13:23:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3702-ga3dfb14: Require 0 or 2 args for coord_def ctor, make it non-explicit. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3dfb14d27c1 13:23:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3703-gf7bac8f: Simplify Compass definition (wheals) 10(84 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7bac8f29aa2 13:23:49 !tell chequers Wouldn't want to take all the credit, since I did use a lot of your code and the idea! I'm still concerned about the interface for commands, mostly how to specify/generate. An table of parameters in each command entry with a required format regexp for each? 13:23:49 gammafunk: OK, I'll let chequers know. 13:24:44 |amethyst: i was actually thinking about _swing_at_target and _move_player :) 13:27:33 PleasingFungus: what's your take on current artefact generation? In my games, all of them have been garbage, but maybe that's not a representative sample 13:28:14 my take is as follows 13:28:16 %git c6dea934 13:28:16 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-3686-gc6dea93: Tweak artefact good props back up slightly 10(23 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6dea934d509 13:28:27 and I haven't done any spectating since the last rebuild 13:28:27 yeah, I already had that loaded 13:28:34 <|amethyst> wheals: btw, I like how the calls to those from process_command are aligned... poorly 13:28:59 <|amethyst> there are variable numbers of spaces between, so there was some attempt 13:29:05 <|amethyst> but nothing actually lines up 13:29:13 heh 13:29:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 13:29:41 <|amethyst> 13:29:58 13:30:19 <|amethyst> typed "/ " into the wrong terminal :) 13:32:04 johnstein: Is the dbro branch on dgamelaunch_config pretty current for how you have dbro configured? I have new scripts to roll out webtiles through dgl 13:32:20 -!- rockygargoyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:20 actually I think you gave me a url for that 13:34:35 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:35:00 johnstein: ok, I don't think I can see the templates you're actually using for dbro, so let me know if https://github.com/neilmoore/dgamelaunch-config/tree/dbro is safe to work on or not 13:36:33 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:37:05 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:39 <|amethyst> Lasty: I think for weapons and armour at least, if you want to make arts less crap, you'd want to look at base type and enchantment 13:37:50 <|amethyst> Lasty: err, subtype rather 13:41:30 -!- spacet has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:41:42 -!- RAHB is now known as RAHB|shower 13:41:44 |amethyst: I think the problem right now is that the good affixes aren't good enough to offset the bad 13:41:51 good/numerous 13:42:17 generating a bunch of randarts just now in testing, weapon randarts seem fine 13:42:25 armour randarts maybe a little weak 13:42:59 jewels seem fine 13:43:09 this is the result of my very scientific testing 13:43:49 <|amethyst> Enter name of item (or BUTT spec): 13:43:51 -!- NotMyLeg has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:44:07 wel??? 13:44:30 i've been seeing a bunch of good armoud artefacts, the main thing i've noticed is that things seem to just have ridiculous numbers of properties 13:44:30 I might just have bad luck. :) 13:44:36 armour* 13:44:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: btw, I agree with whoever said (or was it you?) that you should be able to say something like butt:4 or butt:25 to substitute 1/4 of all words 13:44:57 like 6 or 7 seems not uncommon 13:45:04 |amethyst: it was me! 13:45:10 yeah I've seen large numbers of properties when spectating as well, but there was that recent commit 13:45:34 MarvinPA: how recently? it got toned down a bit. 13:45:38 much trickier to support now that there's stacking fakelangs, tho 13:45:49 <_miek> I've noticed the artifacts on average are a lot better, but there appears to be a lot generating with stuff like rC- which is bad enough to offset the good unless you have rC++ from elsewhere 13:45:55 in my last game, yesterday i think 13:46:05 and games before that 13:46:34 <|amethyst> for weapons I'm seeing more like three or so on average now, not counting brand 13:46:48 <|amethyst> sometimes higher but 2 or 3 seems to be the mode 13:46:57 -!- gressuo is now known as gressup 13:47:06 it's jewellery that i've noticed having a ton mostly 13:47:07 <|amethyst> but I do remember 4 or 5 not long ago 13:47:30 stats say the current average is 3 non-brand props per art 13:47:33 mean, obviously 13:47:56 median I think is gonna be a little lower 13:48:41 what's the sd/range 13:48:43 also 13:48:45 %git c9bfa3fdb678428e9e386278c4a8a2bedfa6686a 13:48:45 07Lasty02 * 0.16-a0-3688-gc9bfa3f: Rescale the spellcasting penalty for AEVP 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9bfa3fdb678 13:48:54 that used the phrase no-brainer 13:48:57 noooo 13:49:06 gammafunk: don't have stats and am too hung-over to code it up 13:49:11 you get a warning only on the first violation! 13:49:16 well, I have range 13:49:32 drunk on buttcohol 13:49:35 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:40 jewellery doesn't seem to have more properties than weapons to me 13:49:51 (made like 30 pages of each in wizmode) 13:49:53 they shouldn't, they use the exact same code now 13:50:05 though obviously it's better since it is jewellery 13:50:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:12 on average 13:50:17 yes 13:50:21 <|amethyst> I'm getting a median of 4 inscribed props for jewellery 13:50:27 <|amethyst> but one of those is from the subtype 13:50:29 ya 13:50:30 |amethyst, the first one isn't a randart property 13:50:30 yes 13:50:38 likewise weapon gets one from the forced brand 13:50:42 &^Ib reports "max # of props = 9, min = 1, avg # = 3.03" (well, I'm subtracting the brand) 13:50:44 weapons also have a median of 4 inscribed props---yes 13:50:45 goddammit 13:50:49 -!- rockygargoyle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:50:54 minmay: hi :) 13:51:10 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 13:51:46 <|amethyst> however, probably a good number do have 8 props 13:51:57 <|amethyst> I got 2 out of 30 with 8 props 13:52:02 <|amethyst> (7 really) 13:52:12 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:18 <|amethyst> maybe the probabilities of the props shouldn't be binomial 13:52:20 I am noticing an awfully large amount of negative props compared to positive ones 13:52:35 negative props are considerably more common now, yes 13:52:38 about twice as common 13:52:57 this was iirc a design goal 13:53:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:53:38 ah. what was the idea behind that? 13:54:13 -!- debo_ is now known as debo 13:54:17 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:04 BTW, I'm noticing a lot of artefacts with like stat+2 properties...wasn't the point of rescaling +/-stat properties to get rid of those 13:55:05 something ilke "it's fun to decide whether +s are worth -s (as a player)". I think lasty put it better 13:55:52 minmay: stats went from 1-5 to 3-10, then to 3-7, and then back down to 2-6 13:55:57 life is a rollercoaster 13:56:15 no more stat +-1s tho 13:56:43 PleasingFungus: that doesn't really make sense to me since all randarts are equipment, so the occupy slots...every piece of equipment already has -s of whatever is on other equipment for that slot, unless it is the only item for that slot you have (and how often does that happen with randarts) 13:57:11 I know 13:57:25 PleasingFungus: I think for str/int/dex the minimum should be at least 3, maybe 4 13:58:04 my stance on this one is "I refuse to take a side". imo argue with marvinpa 13:58:11 unless having really inconsequential properties is intended (I guess with things like SInv being randart properties it probably is) 13:58:48 fr: ++inv enemies that require sInv++ to see 13:59:33 gloorx vloq becomes ++++inv 13:59:52 bring back rpois+++ 14:00:44 you can already get rPois+x4000, what more do you want 14:00:45 after looking at weapon, armour, and jewellery randarts, I have to say that this overhaul really doesn't seem to have consequentially changed randarts at all 14:00:54 good 14:00:59 except possibly for the addition of +twstr 14:01:10 I got the impression that wasn't actually the goal 14:01:18 there were several goals 14:01:24 one was comprehensible code 14:01:42 another was more +-s 14:02:07 well actually I think it was stated as "more exciting randarts" or something like that 14:02:33 but that is a dangerously bloaxy way to design 14:02:35 right, adding more useless properties doesn't seem to accomplish that in any useful way 14:03:26 Regen- 14:03:45 as the secondary clean-up dev on this change, I am perfectly happy with "this overhaul really doesn't seem to have consequentially changed randarts at all" 14:04:10 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:10 The build passed. (master - d684eb7 #1577 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/47445577 14:04:10 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:04:11 oh, also, noisy is appearing on jewellery. WTF is with that 14:04:29 lemme check where it was generated before 14:04:32 that might be a bug/oversight 14:04:32 weapons 14:04:36 which were equally stupid 14:04:36 oh yeah 14:04:39 that was dumb 14:04:42 it only sorta makes sense on armour 14:04:52 ya I might as well go ahead and ban it on jewels 14:04:55 and even then is kinda bad 14:04:59 I was going to do that and then I did something else 14:05:23 or wait, how does it actually trigger 14:05:24 i thought now noisy makes noise whenever you hit stuff with weapons 14:05:26 and not just randomly 14:05:41 and can you honestly see something like rPois- or rN- making a difference any significant portion of the time, especially on swappables 14:06:02 simmarine: and? still weird to have it on swappable items 14:06:10 my point was it was supposed to make sense on weapons 14:06:15 because you hit things and sometimes make noise 14:06:22 as opposed to before where i think it was just random when it made noise 14:06:41 oh yeah this logic is inverted 14:06:42 I think just generating randarts with fewer properties is preferable to padding the list with inconsequential ones 14:07:07 that seems noncontrversial 14:07:53 well since inconsequential randart properties were very recently added to the game, it doesn't seem like that is the case to me! 14:08:23 it's possible to agree on the principle and disagree on the application (specifically the relevance of negative resists) 14:08:38 oh also rings of str/int/dex/slay should probably have the same minimum as the randart properties 14:08:59 it's weird when something like a - the ring "Pausyquz" {+Blink Int+2 Dex+1} generates 14:10:49 true 14:11:23 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:12:33 <|amethyst> does rN- increase drain amount? 14:13:02 I don't actually know what rN- does 14:13:06 I just assume it doesn't matter 14:13:17 <_miek> makes torment worse? 14:13:19 since, like, you can take off the ring 14:13:27 and there isn't a ton of surprise negative energy damage 14:13:33 unlike fire 14:13:41 <|amethyst> minmay: the idea is that that might also be the ring that gives you rC++ or MP+9 14:13:44 <|amethyst> or whatever 14:13:54 <|amethyst> otherwise you wouldn't be wearing it in the first place 14:13:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:14:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3704-g6251fa0: Fix inverted ARTP_NOISES generation logic 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6251fa03933b 14:15:00 in a perfectly spherical crawl, no properties interact with any other properties or any other contextual aspects of the game, and rX- is irrelevant. 14:15:15 -!- olourkin has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:15:35 gammafunk: I just pushed the latest dbro to github 14:15:44 johnstein: nice, thanks 14:15:45 but it's not latest webtiles-changes 14:15:57 that's ok, I can merge 14:16:03 that being said, I'm not actually wed to rN-. 14:16:05 well I can do so in my repo 14:16:53 gammafunk: this is the last webtiles-changes commit I used: 309a318 14:17:25 johnstein: my fork is https://github.com/gammafunk/dgamelaunch-config ; you do pull requests if you like, or just tell me when you make changes 14:18:00 johnstein: I'll do a merge and make follow-up commits in my repo's dbro branch 14:18:06 -!- inspector071 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:38 -!- _miek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:18:56 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:19:05 johnstein: but in any case, when I've done that merge and made those changes, I'll do a pull request for dbro from my repo 14:20:05 we can try! 14:20:33 -!- _miek has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:35 one thing that would be nice is to maybe just store the version details more fully in the sqlite db and generate most of those version-specific files 14:21:17 hrm, I guess a problem with that is that we'd have to store the sqlite db in the repo 14:21:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:21:35 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:21:41 well, we could store just the sql command to install those versions, I guess 14:21:44 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:22:03 <|amethyst> when you say version details you mean? 14:22:28 well, what I'd like is all the per-version dgl stuff in the conf would be in a template 14:22:44 so you could do somethign like dgl install-stable 0.15 14:22:51 and you'd just get all the files you need generated 14:22:56 including menus, etc 14:23:03 menus, dgl config 14:23:33 would need some extra data in the sqlite db, like under what menu key (defaulting to a number on the version, or something) 14:23:50 but the idea is there'd be dgl install-stable 0.15, dgl install-stable pakellas 14:24:00 <|amethyst> that sounds good 14:24:02 and doing this and dgl publish 14:24:05 would just make everything 14:24:07 <|amethyst> but ideally we'd be moving config out of the repo 14:24:17 <|amethyst> only templates in the repo 14:24:20 yeah 14:24:35 <|amethyst> that way I and johnstein and ... can use the same branch 14:24:43 <|amethyst> I assume "repo" means dgamelaunch-config and not crawl here 14:24:47 right 14:24:51 yeah dgamelaunch-config 14:25:30 there is a version table already, but I don't know what all it's used for atm, will look at that 14:25:42 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25:49 <|amethyst> I think it's mostly used for save transfers 14:26:07 <|amethyst> I think tzer0(?) was working on a schema for putting more stuff in it? 14:26:28 <|amethyst> or maybe you mentioned it a month or so ago 14:26:42 yeah not me, as I just started looking at this stuff this weekend 14:26:47 but it seems pretty straightforward 14:27:19 <|amethyst> talk to TZer0, see what he's done so far 14:27:27 <|amethyst> he was at least investigating template stuff 14:27:53 <|amethyst> I was looking into it briefly, but only got as far as making a list of variables I'd need for each branch 14:28:14 <|amethyst> btw, I would use the term "branch" rather than "version" for this 14:28:14 -!- RAHB|shower is now known as RAHB 14:28:25 <|amethyst> because of trunk having multiple versions within a single branch 14:28:50 yeah I suppose, I think that's just what said table is called now 14:28:57 -!- t4nk516 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:28:59 <|amethyst> the current version db is for trunk I believe 14:29:15 well not to mention that you install e.g. experimentals with "install-stable branch" 14:29:15 <|amethyst> things like which versions have which major,minor tags 14:29:19 <|amethyst> let me check the schema 14:29:26 even though branch is actually based on trunk 14:29:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3705-gd89b1cd: Destroy the tome of Destruction. 10(11 minutes ago, 14 files, 50+ 174-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d89b1cd13e52 14:29:43 Minor Bearkin tweaks. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9416 by Kvaak 14:29:55 PleasingFungus: rip........... 14:29:59 !tell TZer0 I've started working on dgamelaunch-config with the aim of preparing for webtiles-changes, and allowing dgl to update webtiles server, and automating more of the install 14:29:59 gammafunk: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 14:30:09 Grunt: I changed my mind 14:30:14 (re save compat etc) 14:30:19 <|amethyst> gammafunk: yeah, the difference between the stable and trunk scripts is precisely that trunk supports multiple versions in a single branch 14:30:19 tome of obsoleteness 14:30:23 clearly it should have been 14:30:23 ya 14:30:25 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and stable does not 14:30:27 tomb of obsolescence 14:30:33 evoke it at something to make it obsolete 14:30:35 !tell TZer0 |amethyst tells me you've done some work on the dgl template stuff already? Let me know if you have anything local going into dgameluanch-config soon I should be aware of 14:30:36 !!! 14:30:37 gammafunk: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 14:30:37 op imo 14:30:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: also that trunk is fixed to "master" as the branch name, whereas "stable" has to take it as a parameter 14:31:14 <|amethyst> yeah, the 'versions' table is specifically for trunk 14:31:41 You evoke the tomb of obsolescence. A mountain dwarf appears! It doesn't seem happy. 14:31:53 <|amethyst> I made the 'branches' table but haven't used it for anything 14:32:22 well I'll call said table branches if I create a new one, or will use that one if there's a skeleton there already 14:32:30 <|amethyst> If you don't have it in your branch (I think you do) it's 14:32:32 <|amethyst> CREATE TABLE branches(name TEXT(50) NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY, git TEXT(50) NOT NULL, description STRING NOT NULL, abbrev TEXT(1) NOT NULL, sprintabbr TEXT(1), -- null means no sprint ord INTEGER, -- null to disable? wizard INTEGER NOT NULL); -- boolean? 14:32:36 <|amethyst> err 14:32:42 <|amethyst> that screwed up line breaks 14:33:03 <|amethyst> there definately needs to be one before "ord" and before "wizard" because of comments 14:33:09 yeah,but...hrm 14:33:16 why the wizard key? 14:33:23 <|amethyst> whether it allows wizmode 14:33:39 <|amethyst> for normal players 14:33:51 yeah but that's not branch information, but rather server config info? 14:34:05 are you moving e.g. cszo config info into the table? 14:34:32 I mean I'm proposing to do that in part in terms of "installed branches" I guess 14:35:08 but my thought was after branch is installed, local modifications woudl just be in the relevant toml file/config.py 14:39:33 kvaak: APT(SP_BEARKIN, SK_ICE_MAGIC, 1), 14:39:40 kvaak: so mad you didn't just call them Yetis 14:39:54 I could call them polarbearkins 14:39:54 kvaak: YETIS! 14:40:05 think of Ye as a species abbreviation 14:40:13 YeSk 14:40:14 YeIE 14:40:24 YeAR 14:40:51 ok I guess the combos aren't that amazing 14:40:58 Grunt: fr: grunt_tomb_of_obsoleteness 14:41:02 ! 14:41:07 I mean you do have BeAR, that is pretty good 14:42:13 I don't think BeAr is beatable 14:42:14 tbh 14:42:49 I think OgAr is really the pinnacle 14:43:06 since it's how Ogres would misspell their own species name 14:43:18 fr: "OL" background 14:43:47