00:00:50 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:35 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:12 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:33 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:34 !lm * noun=slimy min=turns 00:04:35 21755. [2010-02-10 05:31:16] hyperbolic the Grasshopper (L5 SpWr of Jiyva) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 2176. (Slime:6) 00:04:39 mmmmmmmmmmm 00:04:50 can't do that! 00:04:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:04:57 !lm * !jiyva noun=slimy min=turns 00:04:58 20148. [2014-01-26 05:54:34] hanon12 the Tortoise (L14 LOFi of Beogh) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 7664. (Slime:6) 00:05:07 nice, korean rune 00:05:19 that'd be a pretty fun trj fight 00:05:28 !lm * !jiyva noun=slimy min=turns -tv 00:05:33 !lm * !jiyva noun=slimy min=turns -tv 00:05:34 20148. hanon12, XL14 LOFi, T:7664 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:06:05 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:12 oh yeah 00:06:15 !lm * !jiyva noun=slimy min=turns -tv:cancel 00:06:16 20148. hanon12, XL14 LOFi, T:7664 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:06:36 !lm hanon12 lofi uniq=the_royal_jelly min=turns 00:06:37 26. [2014-01-26 05:52:41] hanon12 the Tortoise (L14 LOFi of Beogh) killed the royal jelly on turn 7577. (Slime:6) 00:06:40 !lm hanon12 lofi uniq=the_royal_jelly min=turns -tv 00:06:41 26. hanon12, XL14 LOFi, T:7577 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 00:06:43 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:33 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:48 heh 00:07:51 tries to double-invis 00:08:42 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:06 cared for his orc warlords as if they were beautiful flowers in his garden... 00:09:36 !lm * rune min=turns place!=abyss 00:09:43 275679. [2013-02-09 09:33:57] 4thArraOfDagon the Faith Healer (L11 DDHe of Elyvilon) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 1675. (Swamp:5) 00:10:02 !lm * rune s=noun x=min(turns) o=min(turns) 00:10:03 291780 milestones for * (rune): 7472x obsidian [17154], 8428x iron [16704], 7684x icy [16274], 8054x bone [15888], 9328x golden [11789], 8296x glowing [8081], 11816x demonic [7337], 40297x silver [6446], 8221x dark [6168], 8206x fiery [4030], 8288x magical [3285], 22721x gossamer [2764], 37866x serpentine [2414], 21755x slimy [2176], 28216x barnacled [1891], 39031x decaying [1675], 16101x abyssal ... 00:10:04 interesting that 4th beat jeanjaques to the first rune 00:10:16 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3593-g1073268 (34) 00:10:17 !lm * rune s=noun x=min(turns) o=-min(turns) 00:10:19 291780 milestones for * (rune): 16101x abyssal [64], 39031x decaying [1675], 28216x barnacled [1891], 21755x slimy [2176], 37866x serpentine [2414], 22721x gossamer [2764], 8288x magical [3285], 8206x fiery [4030], 8221x dark [6168], 40297x silver [6446], 11816x demonic [7337], 8296x glowing [8081], 9328x golden [11789], 8054x bone [15888], 7684x icy [16274], 8428x iron [16704], 7472x obsidian [17... 00:10:30 !lm * rune min=turns 00:10:31 291780. [2009-03-13 03:03:02] Mayhem the Skirmisher (L1 SpCK) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 64. (Abyss) 00:11:30 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:36 !lm * rune recent min=turns 00:11:38 89942. [2014-04-10 16:10:33] kyprion the Unseen (L13 SpEn of Dithmenos) found a gossamer rune of Zot on turn 4247. (Spider:5) 00:11:41 mm 00:11:59 !lm * recent rune s=noun x=min(turns) o=-min(turns) 00:12:00 89942 milestones for * (recent rune): 11053x gossamer [4247], 11208x decaying [4573], 10718x serpentine [5183], 5279x abyssal [5652], 9496x barnacled [6410], 6926x slimy [6860], 11065x silver [9928], 2778x demonic [14482], 2409x magical [14990], 2399x fiery [15256], 2417x glowing [15587], 2795x golden [15842], 2412x dark [15875], 2281x iron [17752], 2317x bone [18412], 2214x icy [18426], 2175x obs... 00:12:35 !lm devteamnp rune !jiyva !lugonu s=name,turns o=-turns 00:12:35 Bad filter condition: 'turn' (extra: ) 00:12:44 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:44 !lm devteamnp rune !jiyva !lugonu s=turns,name o=-turns 00:12:56 11415 milestones for devteamnp (rune !jiyva !lugonu): 427 (KiloByte), 1845 (KiloByte), 3274 (elliptic), 3846 (elliptic), 4231 (elliptic), 4362 (rob), 5372 (78291), 5388 (78291), 5472 (78291), 5695 (rob), 5984 (78291), 6077 (rob), 6181 (elliptic), 6231 (elliptic), 6418 (78291), 6520 (78291), 6702 (rob), 6816 (78291), 6911 (78291), 7111 (78291), 7141 (78291), 7159 (rob), 7203 (78291), 7441 (elliptic... 00:13:09 heh, didn't filter that quite right 00:14:22 !lm devteamnp rune !jiyva !lugonu s=name x=min(turns) o=-min(turns) 00:14:23 11415 milestones for devteamnp (rune !jiyva !lugonu): 402x KiloByte [427], 927x elliptic [3274], 469x rob [4362], 4028x 78291 [5372], 340x gammafunk [7892], 160x erisdiscordia [11870], 319x Medar [14689], 1003x MarvinPA [16621], 12x DracoOmega [19910], 265x sorear [20050], 48x Neil [20156], 50x Keskitalo [20603], 73x bh [20854], 297x PleasingFungus [21727], 232x wheals [22744], 432x evilmike [2428... 00:14:40 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:40 !lm devteamnp rune recent noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=turns,name o=-turns 00:14:41 1090 milestones for devteamnp (rune recent noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 7849 (elliptic), 7892 (gammafunk), 8266 (gammafunk), 8679 (elliptic), 8708 (gammafunk), 8754 (gammafunk), 8760 (gammafunk), 8807 (gammafunk), 8872 (gammafunk), 8969 (gammafunk), 9055 (elliptic), 9107 (gammafunk), 9165 (gammafunk), 9253 (gammafunk), 9349 (gammafunk), 9387 (gammafunk), 9480 (gammafunk), 9481 (gammafunk), 9560 (ga... 00:14:57 !lm devteamnp rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=turns,name o=-turns 00:14:59 2609 milestones for devteamnp (rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 3274 (elliptic), 3846 (elliptic), 4231 (elliptic), 7849 (elliptic), 7892 (gammafunk), 8266 (gammafunk), 8679 (elliptic), 8708 (gammafunk), 8754 (gammafunk), 8760 (gammafunk), 8807 (gammafunk), 8872 (gammafunk), 8969 (gammafunk), 9055 (elliptic), 9107 (gammafunk), 9165 (gammafunk), 9253 (gammafunk), 9349 (gammafunk), 9387 (gam... 00:15:03 dang elliptic 00:15:06 that is a fast rune 00:15:31 !lm devteamnp rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=turns,name,noun o=-turns 00:15:33 2609 milestones for devteamnp (rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 3274 (elliptic (gossamer)), 3846 (elliptic (barnacled)), 4231 (elliptic (decaying)), 7849 (elliptic (gossamer)), 7892 (gammafunk (barnacled)), 8266 (gammafunk (decaying)), 8679 (elliptic (barnacled)), 8708 (gammafunk (decaying)), 8754 (gammafunk (decaying)), 8760 (gammafunk (decaying)), 8807 (gammafunk (barnacled)), 8872 (gam... 00:16:10 yeah I could see spider/shoals, but even decaying is pretty fast 00:16:33 of course I'll need to be that fast with DeSu; HESu it's not really possible 00:16:36 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:02 could see a 6.5k with a great deal of luck though 00:17:13 !lm devteamnp rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=turns,name,noun,char o=-turns 00:17:15 2609 milestones for devteamnp (rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 3274 (elliptic (gossamer (DDHe))), 3846 (elliptic (barnacled (DDHe))), 4231 (elliptic (decaying (DDHe))), 7849 (elliptic (gossamer (DDBe))), 7892 (gammafunk (barnacled (HESu))), 8266 (gammafunk (decaying (HESu))), 8679 (elliptic (barnacled (DDBe))), 8708 (gammafunk (decaying (HESu))), 8754 (gammafunk (decaying (HESu))), 8760 ... 00:17:52 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:57 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3593-g1073268 (34) 00:18:58 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:07 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:52 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:05 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:47 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:24:57 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25:56 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:28 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 00:27:11 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:15 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:27 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:03 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:46 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:32:54 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34:03 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:36:04 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:19 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38:18 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:16 -!- DayBay has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:39:27 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:46 -!- Siegurt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:40:47 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:09 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:52 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:01 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:19 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:11 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:49 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:55 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:47:06 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:11 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:17 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:28 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:49 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3593-g1073268 00:52:22 mmh, the good old days when i had three runes after 9k turns 00:53:15 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:54:15 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:16 !lm . rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=turns,noun o=-turns 00:55:17 713 milestones for WalkerBoh (rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 6219 (decaying), 7215 (barnacled), 8263 (serpentine), 8644 (serpentine), 8651 (serpentine), 9045 (gossamer), 9056 (decaying), 9161 (gossamer), 9220 (barnacled), 10180 (decaying), 10197 (serpentine), 10737 (barnacled), 10915 (gossamer), 12057 (serpentine), 12414 (decaying), 12780 (decaying), 13317 (gossamer), 13637 (barnacled),... 00:55:26 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:55:42 !lm . rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=turns,noun,char o=-turns 00:55:43 713 milestones for WalkerBoh (rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 6219 (decaying (MiBe)), 7215 (barnacled (GrBe)), 8263 (serpentine (DDGl)), 8644 (serpentine (DDSk)), 8651 (serpentine (GrBe)), 9045 (gossamer (GrAr)), 9056 (decaying (DDWr)), 9161 (gossamer (VSGl)), 9220 (barnacled (DDGl)), 10180 (decaying (VSGl)), 10197 (serpentine (GrBe)), 10737 (barnacled (GrAr)), 10915 (gossamer (DDWr)), 1... 00:56:19 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:37 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:36 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:27 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59:44 !lm Bloax rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy s=turns,noun,char o=-turns 00:59:45 225 milestones for Bloax (rune cv>=0.12 noun!=slimy): 4762 (decaying (GrBe)), 5462 (decaying (GrBe)), 6045 (decaying (VSAs)), 6202 (decaying (GrMo)), 6306 (decaying (VSAs)), 6462 (decaying (GrBe)), 6691 (serpentine (VSTm)), 6931 (gossamer (GrBe)), 7219 (decaying (VSMo)), 7285 (gossamer (VSAs)), 7374 (serpentine (VSAs)), 7397 (barnacled (MiMo)), 7424 (barnacled (VSTm)), 7477 (serpentine (GrMo)), 76... 01:00:24 I don't think my mibe is very good 01:00:32 !lm . mibe rune min=turns 01:00:32 2. [2015-01-05 08:18:37] gammafunk the Severer (L13 MiBe of Trog) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 9253. (Shoals:5) 01:00:35 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:35 eh 01:00:43 !lm * mibe rune min=turns 01:00:49 only my third mibe speedrun anyhow 01:00:52 8440. [2014-12-10 12:35:44] Victor the Severer (L14 MiBe of Trog) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 4573. (Swamp:5) 01:01:07 well yeah melee speedruns take quite some practice to really get the hang of 01:01:13 I did get a nice early roka kill at least 01:01:17 !lm . mibe uniq=roka 01:01:17 No milestones for gammafunk (mibe uniq=roka). 01:01:21 !lm . mibe uniq=saint_roka 01:01:22 1. [2015-01-04 22:42:44] gammafunk the Severer (L11 MiBe of Trog) killed Saint Roka on turn 5151. (Orc:4) 01:01:25 because it's very important to know how much you can push your luck 01:01:30 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:40 not that early, but it was fun 01:02:06 guess what game I am idly importing dis_hangedman into and win a prize 01:02:23 what game...does this mean it's not crawl? 01:02:30 !vault dis_hangeman 01:02:30 Couldn't find dis_hangeman in the Crawl source tree 01:02:43 false advertising! 01:02:44 it's your new dwarf fortress 01:02:51 not my fault you can't spell 01:02:52 !vault dis_hangedman 01:02:52 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/dis.des;hb=HEAD#l1052 01:02:58 that's Dell's fault 01:03:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:03:22 I just through out "Doom" 01:03:30 or doomrl or something 01:03:53 no prize for you 01:04:15 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:58 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:07:13 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:26 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:18 -!- ruwin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:21 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:11:54 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:12:36 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:05 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:13:30 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14:31 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:33 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18:53 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:20 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:22:10 -!- domiryuu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:29:05 -!- weezefa__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29:19 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 01:30:01 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:31:10 -!- bitcoinbastard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:36:19 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:21 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:53:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:07:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:36 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:08:18 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10:58 -!- eb has quit [] 02:11:11 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:12:43 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:13:34 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:14:19 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:14:37 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 02:21:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3593-g1073268 (34) 02:21:30 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:24:05 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35:03 -!- rophy has quit [Client Quit] 02:35:31 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:40:09 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:41:27 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:50:13 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:50:19 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:50:20 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:12:49 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 03:30:33 -!- CacoS has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:12 purpyduyusei (L18 HOAK) ERROR: range check error (27001 / 702) (Vaults:2) 03:40:44 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:41:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:44:40 !learn add doy greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz FeWz^Sif TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgNe^Kiku FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh 03:44:40 doy[5/5]: greaterplayer: OgAE^Qaz FeWz^Sif TrAr^Nem HuEE^Ash NaAM^Fedhas DgNe^Kiku FoCK^Xom TeGl^Jiyva OpMo^Chei MuAs^Dith CeHe^Ely SpSk^Zin DDTm^Makh 03:45:01 !cmd .doynext .echo $(let (chars $(split " " $(replace "greaterplayer: " $(ldbent-text $(ldb doy 5))))) $(nth $(rand $(length $chars)) $chars)) 03:45:01 Defined command: .doynext => .echo $(let (chars $(split " " $(replace "greaterplayer: " $(ldbent-text $(ldb doy 5))))) $(nth $(rand $(length $chars)) $chars)) 03:45:15 !cmd .doydevkills !lg @devteam (( (( cikiller=the_serpent_of_hell newserpent )) || (( cikiller=~lich randliches )) )) s=name,ckiller 03:45:15 Defined command: .doydevkills => !lg @devteam (( (( cikiller=the_serpent_of_hell newserpent )) || (( cikiller=~lich randliches )) )) s=name,ckiller 03:45:19 .doynext 03:45:19 DDTm^Makh 03:45:23 .doydevkills 03:45:24 2 games for @devteam (cikiller=the_serpent_of_hell newserpent || cikiller=~lich randliches): Lasty (an ancient lich), PleasingFungus (the Serpent of Hell) 03:46:01 gammafunk++ 03:46:03 (: 03:46:32 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:57:23 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57:54 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Client Quit] 04:12:08 -!- kilobyte has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:16:21 -!- kilobyte has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:46 -!- falu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 04:28:32 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:47:23 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:50:16 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 04:51:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:02:28 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:22:52 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:30:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:39:12 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:41 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 05:46:22 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:52:07 !tell Grunt No messages for TZer0. 05:52:07 TZer0: OK, I'll let grunt know. 05:53:55 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:13:49 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:13:49 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:34:31 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:38:24 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:42:58 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:50:04 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:29 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:36 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:29 -!- wiffle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:19:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:21:29 Mennas no longer has silence aura 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9392 by Phillip 07:24:25 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:24:36 -!- Amy is now known as Guest4895 07:26:13 -!- Guest17445 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:31:55 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:32:08 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:39:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:42:49 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49:54 !lg * pakellas won 07:49:54 No keyword 'pakellas' 07:50:01 !lg * god=pakellas won 07:50:02 3. heteroy the Brilliant (L27 DDCK of Pakellas), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2015-01-04 22:02:51, with 2453851 points after 69489 turns and 9:06:17. 07:59:00 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: "What happens if you die in reality?" "You die, stupid. That's why it's called reality."] 08:06:40 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:06 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:15:59 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 08:17:29 !tell grunt Rod of Iron's targeter doesn't make it clear that it can hit monsters diagonally adjacent to your when fired at an orthogonally adjacent space, but it can. 08:17:29 Lasty: OK, I'll let grunt know. 08:28:03 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 08:44:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:46:34 is it normal for orc:4 to create less than 4 shops? 08:49:28 also how do you backup your save in webtiles 08:50:49 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:53:42 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:58:27 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:12 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:33 -!- FatShack has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:05:53 -!- FatShack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:41 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:08:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:09:49 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:12:07 hey, I ran into an Orc:4 with only one shop 09:12:18 which I understand is a bug 09:12:30 should I do anything to back up the save or something? 09:13:04 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:14 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:30 you can submit the save in a bug to mantis 09:17:38 or are you playing on a server 09:18:13 there's no magical "backup save" button on webtiles as far as i can see 09:18:57 right, only devs can access it 09:19:01 I’m playing on crawl.s-z.org 09:19:02 moocowpong3 09:19:07 so dont die until they return :) 09:19:17 well the weird thing is said button does exist in console 09:19:33 console and webtiles are accessing the same save 09:19:45 I am aware of that 09:30:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:26 <|amethyst> hm, I don't even see a branch end in moocowpong's save 09:38:37 <|amethyst> Level vaults: 09:38:37 <|amethyst> lemuel_ogre_cave; layout_diamond_mine; basic_altar 09:38:37 <|amethyst> _ serial_shops; shop; nicolae_orc_sculptors_studio; 09:38:54 -!- cut_lass has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:39:45 um? 09:39:53 you’re looking at the FoFi? 09:40:15 <|amethyst> yes 09:40:20 <|amethyst> I grabbed a copy of your save 09:40:24 ah, I see the sculptor studio :P 09:40:36 what do you mean you don’t see a branch end? 09:40:48 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:20 kvaak: I think orc:4 can get fewer than 4 shops if there are mimics 09:41:22 <|amethyst> there is a collection of vaults with PLACE: Orc:$ , each with four shops etc etc 09:41:38 <|amethyst> somehow none of those placed on your Orc:4 09:41:50 oh, weird 09:41:50 well that sounds like the problem... 09:42:07 There weren’t any mimics 09:45:26 so can I have a copy of the save so I can submit a bug report? 09:47:20 -!- GlassGo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:48:13 <|amethyst> moocowpong1: save your game and I'll post a backup in the usual place 09:48:38 the usual place? 09:49:44 <|amethyst> http://dobrazupa.org/saves/moocowpong3.cs 09:49:48 <|amethyst> only devs can download it 09:50:17 <|amethyst> so as not to tempt players into wizmoding secrets about their games :) 09:50:30 <|amethyst> but you can put that URL in the bug report 09:50:37 indeed :) 09:50:39 okay thanks 09:50:42 I’ll do that 09:51:37 is this major or minor 09:52:06 <|amethyst> hm 09:52:25 -!- twzt has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:52:53 <|amethyst> I don't know if we have a standard for what's major and what's minor 09:53:03 <|amethyst> I guess major 09:53:13 I’ll put it as major and if somebody wants to change it they can 09:53:16 thanks for your help 09:54:05 Orc:4 didn't have the expected shops 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9393 by moocowpong1 10:05:27 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:09:22 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:19 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:14:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:22:05 solution: Orc:$ vaults should be primary vaults 10:33:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:34:05 <|amethyst> btw, why does nicolae_orc_pool_cavern have PLACE: Orc:3 10:34:06 <|amethyst> ? 10:38:40 <|amethyst> Grunt: hm, trying a bunch of &^R with the orc:$ vaults as primaries and it doesn't seem to come out weird or anything 10:40:05 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:40:17 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:23 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3594-g09c043c: Make Orc:$ vaults into primary vaults (Grunt) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09c043c89ea9 10:45:32 <|amethyst> Grunt: ^^ It Works For Me 10:46:13 <|amethyst> Grunt: then again, it worked for me without changing them too.. 10:46:41 <|amethyst> probably need to do some mapstat or something and count the number of shops on Orc:4 10:50:48 -!- pikaro has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:24 is there a way to store a variable in lua persistently across games? (and is this even the right channel for rcfile lua?) 10:51:40 *across multiple instances of a game 10:52:05 i. e. it will be the same when reloading it 10:53:31 <|amethyst> pikaro: there is, let me find it 10:54:00 <|amethyst> put the variable in the dgn.persist namespace 10:54:09 <|amethyst> dgn.persist.arena_style_points = ... 10:54:37 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 10:55:18 |amethyst, thank you! 10:56:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:56:52 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:57:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:58:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:01:58 <|amethyst> pikaro: oh wait 11:01:58 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:02 <|amethyst> pikaro: you said rcfile lua 11:02:19 <|amethyst> pikaro: dgn.persist is only in dlua (vaults etc) 11:02:34 yeah I just noticed this doesn't work :P "attempt to index global 'dgn' (a nil value)' 11:02:36 <|amethyst> pikaro: there is a way to do something similar in rcfiles, let me find that 11:03:12 <|amethyst> gearset used to use that 11:05:10 <|amethyst> pikaro: see spell_slot_save in dat/clua/automagic.lua 11:05:23 <|amethyst> pikaro: you make a function that returns a string, add that function to chk_lua_save 11:05:32 <|amethyst> pikaro: then when the game is loaded your string will be evaluated 11:05:48 |amethyst, will do, thanks! 11:05:50 <|amethyst> pikaro: it's a little wonky since you have to worry about properly escaping quotes etc 11:06:09 <|amethyst> pikaro: qw's rc also uses this, search for qw_save in http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/qw.rc 11:06:27 <|amethyst> maybe we should have a client.persist that works like dgn.persist 11:07:00 |amethyst, oh awesome, I didn't know about qw's rcfile - that looks like it could be worth a read, I love to customize the game 11:07:23 <|amethyst> qw is a bot who has won 11:07:38 <|amethyst> I *think* the only bot to have won a game unassisted online? 11:07:40 <|amethyst> ??bots 11:07:41 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 11:07:43 <|amethyst> ??bots[2] 11:07:43 bots[2/3]: For bots that are written to play crawl instead of talking about it: !nick bot 11:07:44 <|amethyst> ??bots[3] 11:07:44 softignore[1/6]: Bots too annoying? If you have the right client, try this: 11:07:48 <|amethyst> !nick bot 11:07:48 Mapping bot => autorobin xw auto7hm rw qw ow qwrobin gw notqw jw parabodrick hyperqwbe cashybrid 11:07:54 <|amethyst> !lg @bot won s=name 11:07:55 12 games for @bot (won): 11x qw, cashybrid 11:08:28 <|amethyst> (cashybrid had the human casmith take over in difficult spots) 11:08:53 wow, that bot's far better than me -.- now I'm really intrigued 11:10:16 !hs gw 11:10:16 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:10:17 2369. gw the Warrior (L17 MiGl of Trog), blasted by a naga ritualist (Olgreb's Toxic Radiance) on Snake:5 (minmay_snake_end_coiled) on 2014-09-09 22:19:50, with 179476 points after 45406 turns and 0:51:13. 11:13:48 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:49 -!- pwnmonkey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:02 re the weird randart stuff from yesterday, +7 stat is kinda better-than-unrand territory, 2-6 seems more reasonable to me 11:18:16 i'd also lower +hp a bit to not reach ring of vitality levels 11:19:28 as I understood it the +7 is supposed to be extremely rare, and it works in the negative direction too 11:19:35 <|amethyst> elliptic: any thoughts on making something like dgn.persist for clua? seems it would be easier to use than the current chk_lua_save stuff 11:19:44 extremely rare is a strong term 11:20:06 what about "extremely rare in an item you'd want to wear" 11:20:11 heh 11:20:50 <|amethyst> a stat+7 weapon isn't balanced by generating a stat-7 somewhere else though unless the second one would have been good with a lower -stat 11:21:03 it's currently 1/36 chance for an item that generates +stat to generate +7, if my brain is online & working yet (not sure about that) 11:21:09 well 7 is better than most randarts that have +stat as one of their main things (fencer's gloves, skullcrusher, whatever that staff is) 11:21:18 ??majin-bo 11:21:18 majin-bo[1/3]: +6 Majin-Bo {vamp, Archmagi, MP+6 Int+6}. It's a quarterstaff! Acts as a universal spell enhancer, but costs HP every time you cast a spell: 1 HP per MP spent. (This will never kill you, directly.) 11:21:25 that one 11:21:27 ya 11:21:36 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: could buff those and find something else to nerf in compensation 11:21:39 MarvinPA: yes well those two are very, very desirable even without the stat bonuses 11:21:46 majin-bo is an oddball 11:22:20 <|amethyst> I don't know if I'd call the Int+6 one of the "main things" there 11:22:21 |amethyst: yeah, I remember thinking about this at some point in the past (or maybe you or someone else suggested it then too?)... chk_lua_save is certainly not much fun to use 11:22:28 i think 2-6 on randarts is perfectly reasonable, i don't think making randarts get higher pluses and then buffing unrands even more is great 11:22:39 i will continue to fight the good fight against ~*~power spirals~*~ 11:22:44 |amethyst: another thing that would be nice is to have some way of persisting state across deaths 11:23:17 not sure exactly how that would be implemented 11:23:17 even if you buffed randart stats to +10 you'd have a hard time finding a randart superior to fencer's gloves 11:23:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3594-g09c043c (34) 11:23:37 (i mean even if something else were nerfed in compensation, the result is still "numbers getting bigger and bigger") 11:23:45 <|amethyst> elliptic: would need a third file next to the rc and macros 11:24:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:24:07 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: I thought part of the problem was that small numbers on stats doesn't do much 11:24:28 <|amethyst> perhaps that is the bad perception here 11:24:41 i think people are undervaluing stats a bit even after it was mentioned that they were being undervalued yesterday :P 11:24:41 <|amethyst> s/esn/n/ 11:25:19 it's not about undervaluing stats, it's about the fact getting a good stat roll IN a good package is highly unlikely 11:26:28 <|amethyst> elliptic: there's table_to_string in util... could make client = { }, add a function with chk_lua_save that writes "client = " .. table_to_string(client) 11:27:02 <|amethyst> elliptic: I think a user could do that themselves if they reimplemented table_to_string ? 11:27:15 <|amethyst> elliptic: so it would just be a matter of making that public 11:27:26 <|amethyst> elliptic: for single-game stuff, not cross-game persists 11:28:00 <|amethyst> elliptic: I mention this to you instead of doing it myself because I presume you are better at testing and debugging lua than I am :) 11:28:04 and if +7 dex or whatever made wearing an otherwise undesirable artifact worth wearing personally I don't think that's really a problem 11:28:10 but player bias and all that 11:28:51 <|amethyst> I do see the point of wanting the highest numbers to be on special items 11:29:43 -!- mamgar has quit [Client Quit] 11:29:44 I guess that's one way to look at it, personally I just always thought of fencer's gloves as an extremely solid overall package 11:30:02 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 11:30:20 never really thought about the fact it has more dex than anything that isn't a ring 11:31:16 <|amethyst> unrand ponderous plate with +10 to each stat, call it "cheilite" 11:33:51 oh, and also we clearly need an unrand with +7 slaying 11:34:00 since randarts go up to +6 but gauntlets of war only have +5! 11:34:14 <|amethyst> they're called weapons :P 11:35:02 <|amethyst> glaive of prune has 12 slaying as long as you don't throw anything :) 11:35:35 and it's still blown out of the water by plut sword at +14! 11:35:40 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:36:43 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:40:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:54 ??sniper 11:40:55 sniper[1/1]: The +15 heavy crossbow "Sniper" {velocity, SInv}. Has 27 base delay. 11:40:59 plz respect 11:41:13 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:41:23 -!- Werehuman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:41:46 darn 11:42:03 dang. 11:43:02 !learn e sniper[1 s/Has/A triple crossbow with/ 11:43:02 sniper[1/1]: The +15 heavy crossbow "Sniper" {velocity, SInv}. A triple crossbow with 27 base delay. 11:46:50 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:46:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:14 MarvinPA: since you're around now, and I don't think we've talked about it, have you glanced at shoals-lite 11:54:25 hmm, not really 11:54:38 aight 11:54:43 was curious if you had opinions 11:54:54 i vaguely know what it is but haven't looked at it in any detail, that is 11:55:03 no one but me has :( 11:55:48 i'll try and take a look, i think the idea sounds reasonable though 11:57:20 ty :) 11:57:22 on both counts 11:57:48 I'm reasonably happy with it in my own testing, but it's a big enough change that I don't want to merge it without a second opinion 11:59:10 |amethyst, do you know where what I saved with chk_lua_save is loaded? I'd like to know how it parses the string - arr = { key = "foo" } and { ["key"] = "foo" } don't seem to work 12:00:09 |amethyst: hm, I'm not sure table_to_string actually works like that 12:00:28 |amethyst: since it seems to be used only for debug messages currently? 12:00:56 |amethyst: as in, I'm not sure it produces a lua-parseable string 12:01:08 |amethyst: I'm not really very familiar with the dgn.persist stuff though 12:01:56 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:05 <|amethyst> elliptic: oh, hm, I think you're right 12:03:09 <|amethyst> pikaro: 12:03:19 <|amethyst> !source files.cc:1943 12:03:20 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/files.cc;hb=HEAD#l1943 12:03:29 |amethyst, thanks! 12:04:05 <|amethyst> pikaro: execstring() just executes lua code from a string 12:04:16 <|amethyst> pikaro: so what you generate should be lua code 12:06:04 |amethyst, thanks - I'll just play around with it a while, I'm sure I'll find the problem (since I currently am generating lua) 12:06:52 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:06:56 <|amethyst> pikaro: can you show me your code? 12:08:11 <|amethyst> pikaro: you do need a newline at the end of the string 12:08:27 <|amethyst> since these all get joined together into one big string 12:09:46 yeah I saw that in qw's rcfile. mine is here: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/Pikaro.rc , relevant code is found through save_level_times and stringify_array. 12:14:54 <|amethyst> hm, I don't see an obvious problem, but debugging lua is not my strong point :) 12:17:00 |amethyst, the chk_lua_save in general seems to work, so I'm sure there's some less-than-obvious error there. I'm sure I'll find out eventually. thanks for all the help! 12:18:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18:43 <|amethyst> pikaro: btw, if you're testing this locally you can check with crawl -edit-save charname get lua - 12:18:53 <|amethyst> pikaro: that will print the contents of the lua chunk to stdout 12:19:13 ah, perfect, I have a local version lying around as well 12:19:35 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:20:04 <|amethyst> and you can replace it with arbitrary lua code using "put" 12:20:10 <|amethyst> instead of get 12:20:38 <|amethyst> s/arbitrary lua/arbitrary clua/ 12:23:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:23:27 -!- dis-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:52 -!- dis- has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:38:00 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:11 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:07 -!- squiffs is now known as squiffer 12:42:54 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43:58 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:04 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:46:43 -!- squiffer has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:49:33 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:53:55 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:54:31 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:28 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:57 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:03:56 is registraion broken on cdo or something? 13:05:40 -!- surr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:07:41 -!- AlexMcc has quit [Client Quit] 13:10:35 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:11:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:35 <|amethyst> I was able to register a new account just now2 13:12:40 <|amethyst> s/2// 13:13:08 what nickname were you registering kvaak ? 13:13:27 never mind, apparently it doesn't accept a blank email address 13:13:36 weird, I could swear at least webtiles says it's optional or something 13:13:42 <|amethyst> hm 13:13:47 hm 13:14:03 since - if it exists - I'm unable to exploit this: arbitrary code being executed in that location can't be used for cheating, right? 13:14:05 <|amethyst> maybe king nap intentionally made that change 13:14:22 <|amethyst> pikaro: it's executed with the clua interpreter 13:14:34 <|amethyst> pikaro: so it can't do anything you couldn't do in the rcfile already 13:15:27 |amethyst, too bad :P the "access violation" type error that normally appears doesn't, so I thought there might be a way. alright then. 13:16:20 -!- runewalsh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:30:13 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:31:03 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33:18 Religion question overwrites religion description text 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9394 by Wuzzy 13:34:27 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:06 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:36:51 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:54 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:38:24 “Aura of darkness” of Dithmenos religion is not shown in “religion screen” 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9395 by Wuzzy 13:41:30 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:40 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:56:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:58:54 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:00:51 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:04:53 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:58 kvaak: its never been optional in console iirc 14:05:08 oh 14:05:13 though you can insert something silly like a@a.a 14:05:15 but it is in webtiles? 14:05:25 i guess? i dont use webtiles 14:07:10 it is, yes 14:07:50 (optional in webtiles) 14:08:05 weird 14:08:39 this came up when we were talking about unified login; there are a pretty notable number of people with blank emails 14:09:07 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Client Quit] 14:09:11 <|amethyst> and who knows how many with a fake address 14:09:16 ofc 14:09:51 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:13 is that a problem? 14:11:53 makes things trickier in a couple of ways; we can't send an email saying "we reset your password as part of this big shift, here's a new temporary one", makes it harder to verify whether two nicks on different servers are the same person or not 14:11:54 that kind of thing 14:14:00 rPois does not prevent poisoning by some sources 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9396 by Aule 14:14:15 <_miek> did the unified login idea get scrapped in the end? 14:14:35 no 14:15:54 moving slowly, but it's still planned 14:16:12 <_miek> oh cool 14:16:45 <_miek> ??rpois 14:16:45 poison resistance[1/2]: In 0.15, Reduces poison direct damage (e.g. poison arrow) by 66%, prevents poisoning and curare 66% of the time, downgrades red/yellow wasp effect from para to slow to nothing. Also lets you eat poisonous chunks and walk safely through poison / meph clouds. 14:16:55 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:17:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:17:54 !learn e poison_resistance s/In 0.15, //s 14:17:54 Use: !learn edit poison_resistance[NUM] s/// 14:17:58 !learn e poison_resistance[1 s/In 0.15, //s 14:17:58 Syntax is: !learn edit TERM[NUM] s/REGEX/REPLACE/opts 14:18:14 !learn e poison_resistance[1 s/In 0.15, // 14:18:15 poison resistance[1/2]: Reduces poison direct damage (e.g. poison arrow) by 66%, prevents poisoning and curare 66% of the time, downgrades red/yellow wasp effect from para to slow to nothing. Also lets you eat poisonous chunks and walk safely through poison / meph clouds. 14:18:21 ??poison_resistance[2 14:18:21 poison resistance[2/2]: In 0.14 protected against being poisoned 90%, curare 80%, poison direct damage only 50% and half of 'strong poison melee' like redbacks pierced it. It also completely negated red/yellow wasp status effects. 14:21:13 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:43 should we have info on the effects in 0.8 too 14:22:22 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:22:29 obv 14:22:48 confusingly, 0.5-0.7, rPois actually had a chance of *increasing* poison damage, 14:23:51 also, what's a red/yellow wasp 14:24:56 heh 14:25:25 !learn e poison_resistance[1 s,red/yellow wasp,wasp/hornet 14:25:25 poison resistance[1/2]: Reduces poison direct damage (e.g. poison arrow) by 66%, prevents poisoning and curare 66% of the time, downgrades wasp/hornet effect from para to slow to nothing. Also lets you eat poisonous chunks and walk safely through poison / meph clouds. 14:25:29 yesss 14:25:36 I am a regex MASTER 14:25:45 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:16 1learn e * s,gamma.*,grammafunk 14:28:09 grammarpunk? 14:28:34 -!- notsigmund has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:28:39 hardcore...? 14:29:24 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:32:42 !lm . 14:32:42 11461. [2015-01-11 09:41:50] gammafunk the Impaler (L17 MfSk of Xom) entered the Spider Nest on turn 33482. (Lair:4) 14:33:42 !lg grammarpunk 14:33:42 No games for grammarpunk. 14:36:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:47:11 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 14:51:20 !learn edit poison_resistance[1] s/poison arrow/venom bolt 14:51:21 poison resistance[1/2]: Reduces poison direct damage (e.g. venom bolt) by 66%, prevents poisoning and curare 66% of the time, downgrades wasp/hornet effect from para to slow to nothing. Also lets you eat poisonous chunks and walk safely through poison / meph clouds. 14:55:44 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:58:01 -!- tatara has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04:42 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:22 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:08:07 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:30 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 15:26:11 1learn add poison_resistance it's not luck | you are going to get poisoned 33% of the time | plan for it 15:28:31 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:23 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:37:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:38:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:35 randliches seem to be killing fewer xl25+ characters than the old liches did so far 15:39:50 although more lower level characters 15:40:09 about 25% fewer xl27 characters 15:40:32 well I think the sample size must be pretty low 15:40:41 !kw randliches 15:40:41 Keyword: randliches => vlong>=0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea 15:40:54 it is a bit low, but not hugely so at this point 15:40:56 is that also true looking at just ancient luches 15:41:00 yeah 15:41:01 !lg * randliches xl>=25 ikiller~~lich 15:41:03 ancient lunches 15:41:03 26. rockit the Talismancer (L27 DDHu of Makhleb), blasted by an ancient lich (crystal spear) on Zig:21 on 2015-01-10 23:00:19, with 892715 points after 80042 turns and 1d+5:32:20. 15:41:10 it's...26 15:41:13 that's very small 15:41:42 !lg * randliches !boring 15:41:43 65206. Grangar the Firebug (L3 DEFE), slain by a worm on D:2 on 2015-01-11 21:40:13, with 39 points after 993 turns and 0:02:34. 15:42:10 that number is pretty irrelevant 15:42:26 it's not even the number of trials 15:45:10 it's just hard to judge these things when it'll probably be years before we have a reasonable sample size 15:45:39 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45:40 well that's why it's probably better to just watch games or fight liches and identify the spells that seem to be not doing anything 15:45:45 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:46 and it's this sort of thing that can contribute to crawl getting slowly easier over time 15:46:28 kind of dramatic 15:46:31 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47:19 What's making crawl easier over time? 15:47:23 E - the +0 buckler "Mablazui" (worn) {rN+ HP+5 Str+6 SInv} 15:47:32 lol 15:47:33 I think I found one of those extremely rare randarts 15:47:42 Seems okaying 15:47:45 *okayish 15:47:50 I think you just need to be very careful about drawing conclusions from lg queries like that when you have so few events 15:48:15 it's better if you can watch fights and identify what randliches might be doing that's ineffective vs. ...unrandliches? 15:48:18 fr: 15:48:45 boris?? 15:48:45 A unique Lich that has an awesome habit of staying undead. Spells: bolt of cold, invisibility, animate dead, iron shot, iood. 15:48:51 good point 15:49:16 FWIW, I do think randliches have mostly been easier for me than oldliches, but that might be sample size 15:49:48 yeah, if you've fought them and see "they're doing this thing, which is easier than what old liches did", that's great because you can fix it 15:50:22 just try to kill Lasty as much as possible, and you'll converge on the Perfect Lich 15:50:29 IMO, the thing that makes randliches less scary is that they don't necessarily have SGD 15:50:40 you mean they have it less often? 15:50:50 yeah, they do have it less often 15:51:01 or rather, if they have summons, they may not have SGD, I guess 15:51:04 because it was in two of the unrandlich spell sets 15:51:07 gammafunk: yes, plus hyperbole 15:51:16 !gamesby hyperbole 15:51:17 hyperbole has played 1 game, between 2013-04-30 07:07:31 and 2013-04-30 08:24:33, won 0, high score 20949, total score 20949, total turns 21813, play-time/day 1:13:57, total time 1:13:57. 15:51:18 and it's only one of four primary spells now 15:51:22 that's hardly hyperbole 15:51:30 (although ancient liches can get two primary spells) 15:51:31 Just a smidge! 15:51:55 SGD was 80% of what made old liches scary, IMO, but that might be because of how I build characters 15:52:13 bumping the frequency on that back up a bit might be reasonable 15:53:23 fwiw, zot enemies haven't changed much and 15:53:27 !lg * recent vlong<0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25 / ikiller~~lich 15:53:28 111/759 games for * (recent vlong<0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25): N=111/759 (14.62%) 15:53:32 !lg * recent vlong>=0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25 / ikiller~~lich 15:53:37 9/77 games for * (recent vlong>=0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25): N=9/77 (11.69%) 15:53:54 it's just a very small sample size 15:55:20 !lg * recent vlong>=0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25 ikiller~~lich s=killer 15:55:23 9 games for * (recent vlong>=0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25 ikiller~~lich): 6x an ancient lich, a deathcap, a storm dragon, a spellforged servitor 15:55:35 !lg * recent vlong<0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25 ikiller~~lich s=killer 15:55:36 111 games for * (recent vlong<0.16-a0-2796-g1f429ea br=zot xl>=25 ikiller~~lich): 84x an ancient lich, 7x an Ice Fiend, 4x a Hell Sentinel, 4x a Shadow Fiend, 2x a cacodemon, 2x a hellion, a lich, a storm dragon, an Executioner, a reaper, a golden dragon, a Brimstone Fiend, a balrug, a fire dragon 15:56:29 MarvinPA: I've been thinking about the +MP/HP stuff also, and I think maybe it'd be best if both were just always +10 -- or +9, for parity w/ rings of magical power 15:56:31 looks like SGD is getting appreciable kills, but yeah no where close to 80% 15:57:02 I tend to silence all the liches I fight in zot anyhow 15:57:10 hm, i was about to reduce it to 4/8/12 but a single value sounds maybe better, yeah 15:58:06 MarvinPA: the +5s were a lot like +1 stat 15:58:21 Nice, but kinda not noticeable 15:59:01 gammafunk: did you see my question yesterday on setting versions for webtiles-changes? 15:59:08 Henzell: 15:59:10 er 15:59:13 gammafunk: do all versions need to be unique? 15:59:13 johnstein: no, sorry I didn't 15:59:27 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 15:59:31 since I'm only seeing trunk version show up for listing saved games 15:59:39 for each game I select 15:59:49 johnstein: well, versions function as an aggregator in webtiles-changes so that you select a version, you'll see games for that version 16:00:18 but tbh I guess we have to think about the best way to use them 16:00:42 I was imagining e.g. "trunk", "experimental", "0.15", ... 16:00:52 so, randlich spells that have yet to contribute to a kill: refrigeration, simulacrum, throw icicle, poisonous cloud, sleep, enslavement, virulence 16:01:03 and it's hard to tell about agony 16:01:25 Invalid spell slot format: 'icicle' in 'icicle' 16:01:25 %??lich spells:icicle 16:01:31 Unknown spell name: 'icicle' in 'icicle.200.magical' 16:01:31 %??lich spells:icicle.200.magical 16:01:34 ug 16:01:41 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 61-96 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2253 | Sp: throw icicle (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:01:41 %??lich spells:throw_icicle.200.magical 16:01:55 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 61-96 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2428 | Sp: iron shot (3d34) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:01:55 %??lich spells:iron_shot.200.wizard 16:02:01 I guess icicle is resistable 16:02:05 yeah 16:02:06 ??throw_icicle 16:02:06 throw icicle[1/1]: A 4th level Ice/Conjuration spell. Throw Icicle casts a single-target projectile of high-velocity ice, doing mixed cold and physical damage. 40% of the damage can be mitigated by cold resistance. 3d20 at max power. In the Book of Frost. 16:02:11 oh, also, bolt of fire 16:02:18 but i'm pretty sure that's just an outlier 16:03:19 I think icicle is probably more effective than bolt of cold for liches 16:03:28 It's a little more likely that players will be packing rF+ than rC+ and rN+, but probably not to a level that it's worth doing anything about 16:03:35 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 61-96 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2253 | Sp: b.cold (3d29) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:03:35 %??lich spells:bolt_of_cold.200.wizard 16:03:47 yeah, seems like it should be 16:03:56 bolt of cold does only have one kill 16:03:58 pcloud is probably not a great spell for them 16:04:01 well 16:04:07 actually, piercing is probably important though 16:04:11 -!- minmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:04:12 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:04:28 definitly 16:04:38 well they'd never have icicle as their only conj, I'd assume 16:05:01 true, just saying icicle vs bolt of cold, they probably get more opportunities to cast bolt of cold 16:05:02 can they get all single-target conjurations? 16:05:24 !source ghost.cc:1029 16:05:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/ghost.cc;hb=HEAD#l1029 16:05:52 so, yes 16:06:39 they get one primary spell (1-2 for ancient liches), one buff/emergency spell, and 3-5 secondary spells, which are weighted slightly to cluster around schools from the primary spell that was chosen 16:07:28 I think icicle vs bolt of cold is a fairly marginal difference in practice; I'd be more concerned about a spell like simulacra that's so likely to be useless 16:07:34 yeah 16:07:39 well, hall_of_zot is what I'm thinking of in particular 16:07:45 which I guess is not the only use case 16:07:49 in v:5 it'd be good I bet 16:07:56 or would at least be more castable for them 16:07:57