00:00:11 <|amethyst> so it's not quite like bend space 00:01:27 hrm. actually, there's no particular reason for disto blinks to go through this codepath 00:02:01 <|amethyst> likewise I think if you're willing to add one more Xom action 00:02:12 <|amethyst> instead of it being part of the "cast a spell" action 00:02:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:02:47 yeah but that's - I have no idea how to test xom stuff really 00:02:54 I'm just gonna leave it be. 00:04:40 <|amethyst> the way I test Xom stuff is to edit _xom_is_*, move the thing in question to the top of the if/else, and remove any one_chance_in 00:04:46 <|amethyst> which sucks 00:04:54 rip 00:05:07 <|amethyst> hm... we already give names to all the Xom effects for the purposes of notes 00:05:54 <|amethyst> could extract those into a data structure and then allow specifying a Xom effect in wizmode 00:06:15 <|amethyst> ??dataification 00:06:15 dataification[1/1]: Show me your flowchart and conceal your tables, and I shall continue to be mystified. Show me your tables, and I won't usually need your flowchart; it'll be obvious. 00:09:48 huh, berserking makes ctele not work for teleports 00:09:56 still works for blinks, tho 00:10:01 <|amethyst> Finesse? Ha! 00:10:08 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3518-gebcadde (34) 00:10:09 <|amethyst> that's weird 00:10:12 well 00:10:20 it's kind of hard to blink when berserk is on 00:10:25 doubly so to get ctele running beforehand 00:11:00 <|amethyst> oh, and all the involuntary blinks already passed allow_partial_control = false 00:11:18 well, idk about all of them 00:11:29 but all the ones I can think of off the top of my head 00:11:52 can xom make you cast blink spell 00:11:54 honestly, that's why i really don't like the constant drive to remove all slow monsters from the game 00:12:02 especially from the early game 00:12:10 <|amethyst> oh 00:12:12 <|amethyst> AF_BLINK 00:12:13 worm and ooze and goliath beetle all live, my friend. 00:12:21 PleasingFungus: yeah, i know 00:12:26 long live worms! 00:12:33 <|amethyst> minmay: yes, that's one of the cases we were talking about that disallows control 00:12:50 this is interesting 00:12:59 spl-cast.cc still supports casting SPELL_TELEPORT_SELF 00:13:08 it was kind of interesting playing through nethack a few weeks ago 00:13:22 it is really noticeable how basically every monster in nethack is slower than you 00:13:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so if you activate ctele, turn into an imp, go berserk, and hit something, you could still control the blink 00:13:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: except you can't turn into an imp 00:13:32 heh 00:14:19 what if you turn into a wisp 00:14:24 a very angry wisp 00:15:34 <|amethyst> wisp blinking passes false 00:15:39 shit! 00:15:43 the devs thought of everything.... 00:15:54 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 00:16:20 <|amethyst> SPELL_TELEPORT_SELF is used at least by Xom 00:16:32 xom...... 00:16:39 <|amethyst> hm 00:16:47 <|amethyst> I can think of an excuse for keeping it 00:17:05 <|amethyst> maybe a player save transferred while in a closet where they were planning on casting teleport self to get out 00:17:31 has SPELL_TELEPORT_SELF really been around more recently than the last save compat break 00:17:34 as a player spell 00:17:34 <|amethyst> %git :/Teleport Self 00:17:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1289-gc40a653: Don't make Teleport Self break fear (minmay) 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c40a653b59ff 00:17:53 <|amethyst> %git 65f56b7b 00:17:53 07MarvinPA02 * 0.9-a1-124-g65f56b7: Remove the Teleport Self spell 10(3 years, 8 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=65f56b7b7181 00:17:55 <|amethyst> ah, no 00:18:02 <|amethyst> it was longer ago than I thought 00:18:22 level five, huh 00:18:41 <|amethyst> tome of power uses it too 00:19:06 tome of - what 00:19:23 <|amethyst> !source tome_of_power 00:19:23 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc;hb=HEAD#l414 00:19:29 <|amethyst> not my fault no one renamed the function :) 00:19:38 I have a branch....... 00:19:54 it also has polymorph 00:20:04 and sticky flame range 00:21:03 if you cast controlled blink while confused, you do a random blink instead. 00:21:24 <|amethyst> seems reasonable 00:21:34 harsh, but fair. 00:24:21 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:33:17 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:34:22 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:35:45 random_blink() has an override_abyss parameter. this does nothing. 00:39:42 hrm 00:39:50 should -ctele appear whenever you're confused? 00:39:53 I'm undecided 00:40:06 leaning toward no, but there's an argument for yes 00:40:23 ?ctele 00:40:28 ??ctele 00:40:29 teleport control[1/4]: "You may choose your destination (press . or delete to select). Expect minor deviation." You get to pick where your next teleport goes, with a random fudge in a 3x3 box, and with 1/4 chance fudged again. You can also choose to cancel the teleport, leaving you where you are. Converts blinks into {scblink}s. Also delays your teleport. 00:40:38 no i mean make that the status 00:40:46 ? 00:40:51 nevermind it's bad joke 00:40:56 rip 00:50:21 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:50:40 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:53:49 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:06:50 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:10:23 -!- halberd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:10:40 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 01:10:51 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:12:20 -!- halberd has quit [Client Quit] 01:26:23 -!- mineral is now known as read 01:28:25 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28:47 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:33:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:34:18 poll for when people wake up tomorrow: how much do you actually use &b? 01:35:33 i use it a decent amount 01:35:35 why? 01:35:46 I'm rewriting spl-transloc.cc 01:35:52 deciding how to minimize code duplication 01:36:01 (I always use &XT myself) 01:39:30 oh, neat 01:39:37 you can crash the game by &bing into the map border 01:40:04 <|amethyst> you can crash the game by doing lots of things into the map border 01:40:11 <|amethyst> I crash with xm a lot 01:40:36 heh 01:41:01 well, this case is fixable 01:41:25 <|amethyst> hm, practical differences between &b and xm ? 01:41:34 I don't know what xm is 01:41:43 <|amethyst> x m 01:41:47 oh, neat 01:41:59 <|amethyst> you can also move monsters with xm (if you target a monster) 01:42:05 I knew that 01:42:12 didn't know you could move the player 01:42:13 ah, i didn't know about xm either, except for the monsters 01:42:13 or forgot 01:42:15 yeah 01:42:35 <|amethyst> xm will let you move to places you can't see 01:42:55 <|amethyst> &b seems to not let you? 01:43:07 yeah, &b is just a normal blink 01:43:15 sort of 01:43:21 mostly 01:43:25 except you can blink into things 01:43:26 except when it's not 01:43:36 <|amethyst> what I find weird is that &b and xm replace walls you move onto with floors 01:43:45 // Allow wizard blink to send player into walls, in case the 01:43:46 <|amethyst> but XT does not (you're just standing in a wall) 01:43:47 // user wants to alter that grid to something else. 01:43:53 tech 01:44:05 yeah, given xm exists and seems to do everything important, i'd be fine with losing &b 01:44:27 <|amethyst> &zb would probably do the other things 01:44:28 <|amethyst> err, &zblink 01:44:41 <|amethyst> or &zcontrolled blink 01:46:06 <|amethyst> hm, XT also lets you land on top of monsters 01:47:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:47:22 <|amethyst> it would be kind of nice if the wall and monster interaction were orthogonal from whether you're using X or x 01:47:48 <|amethyst> but I guess that doubles the number of bindings you need in each mode 01:49:09 <|amethyst> oh, since we're talking about wizmode 01:49:13 <|amethyst> is there a way to place a cloud? 01:49:33 not that I know 01:49:37 Grunt: pakellas is fun, but the device surge seems weak. IIUC it adds 3 to your evo level? 01:49:39 <|amethyst> because there were several times I wanted to do that for testing, and had to repeat-evoke rod of storms until I got the one I wanted 01:49:45 <|amethyst> most recently when testing storm relec 01:49:56 sorry about that one, btw 01:49:58 <|amethyst> err, rod of clouds 01:50:07 <|amethyst> oh, it turns out it wasn't actually your fault 01:50:22 ! 01:50:26 <|amethyst> you faithfully preserved Grunt's bug, like a good refactorer 01:50:30 hahaha 01:50:34 <3 01:50:49 speaking of refactoring, I'm not sure what the right way to preserve ?blink's message ordering is 01:50:51 hrm 01:51:31 w/e 01:53:54 Grunt: also, the failure rates seem really low for a god that (I assume) expects you to max evo 01:56:13 Grunt: if you have the wand power mutation and try to surge, it can fail after spending the ability mana (which seems unexpected given you can't evoke directly when you have too little mana) 01:56:40 PleasingFungus: did you know that punishment and oddities have the same cards in trunk, and that it might have been easier to remove one or the other 01:56:57 what 01:57:06 I think so yes 01:57:07 what are you talking about 01:57:09 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:57:13 am I insane 01:57:20 you are 01:57:22 sorry 01:57:33 rip me 01:57:35 Grunt: pakellas should maybe disable book autopickup 01:57:37 there's some overlap but they're different decks 01:58:19 are potions of ambrosia meant to be so expensive? they're nearly as expensive as haste 01:59:04 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:02:55 they're valued the same as cancellation 02:03:25 !source shopping.cc:1529 02:03:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc;hb=HEAD#l1529 02:05:30 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:06:16 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 02:14:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3519-g995ee5b: Rewrite player blink code 10(2 minutes ago, 10 files, 391+ 281-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=995ee5b0e954 02:16:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:17:19 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21:22 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3518-gebcadde (34) 02:23:15 haha, surging evocables is awesome 02:24:37 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:07 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:19 -!- manman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:33:34 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:39:11 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:43 -!- schistosoma has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44:51 -!- fenzil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:49:51 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:56:19 rebooting cdo 02:59:40 -!- Napkin has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:01:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:06:16 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 03:07:25 or not ;) 03:09:49 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:21:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:27:48 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus I noticed you didn't actually use allow_control in cast_blink 03:27:48 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 03:31:08 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:34:16 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:36:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:43:57 -!- DeXoteric has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:48:30 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:48:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:48:49 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:49:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:56 -!- Fiveotanaka has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:02:40 -!- BlasterBlade has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:33 Hi, I am the guy who makes Fedora packages. Can anyone update the webpage to say that packages are for Fedora 21/20 only? Cause F19/18 is no longer supported. 04:04:34 BlasterBlade: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 04:04:45 !messages 04:04:45 (1/1) |amethyst said (34w 1d 20h 53m 48s ago): awesome, many thanks! 04:07:22 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 04:15:46 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:26:25 The deep troll simulacrum is filled with an inner flame. 04:26:28 should that be possible 04:31:25 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:57 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:49:06 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:02:34 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:05:24 new storm cloud is pretty cray 05:07:32 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 05:08:22 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:11:54 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 05:13:34 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:14:56 -!- Raycaster has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:17:07 -!- Raycaster has quit [Client Quit] 05:18:14 Hi, I am the guy who makes Fedora packages. Can anyone update the webpage to say that packages are for Fedora 21/20 only? Cause F19/18 is no longer supported. 05:35:16 !tell pleasingfungus 22:18 < BlasterBlade> Hi, I am the guy who makes Fedora packages. Can anyone update the webpage to say that packages are for Fedora 21/20 only? Cause F19/18 is no longer supported. 05:35:55 chequers: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 05:41:39 -!- BlasterBlade has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:45:37 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:48:19 -!- CacoS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:55:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:03:36 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:57 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16:10 bel2 (L27 DEFE) ASSERT(blood.sub_type == POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED) in 'rot.cc' at line 596 failed. (Tar:6) 06:16:31 bel2 (L27 DEFE) ASSERT(blood.sub_type == POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED) in 'rot.cc' at line 596 failed. (Tar:6) 06:17:25 bel2 (L27 DEFE) ASSERT(blood.sub_type == POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED) in 'rot.cc' at line 596 failed. (Tar:6) 06:23:54 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:24:00 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:54 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 06:44:59 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:47:25 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:51:05 chequers: device surges apply power enhancers, not a flat evocations bonus 06:51:20 chequers: like spell enhancers but for evokers 07:14:46 -!- manman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:17:06 maintenance work on cdo, apache will be down for a while 07:26:58 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:27:35 |amethyst: chequers: I'd like to note that the .ttyrec files in the inprogress dir are not actually ttyrecs, but just lockfiles, and the actual recordings happen directly in the ttyrec dir (I blame dgamelaunch for this) 07:28:39 grunt: evocations spellpower doesn't use any stepdown still, right? So 3 enhancers moves spellpower from ~80 @ 27 Evo to ~200? 07:29:07 Grunt: oh right 07:30:37 Lasty_ cc/Grunt if so, the evocations -> spell power learndb should probably mention there's only a stepdown for spell enhancers now there are/will be invo/evo enhancers 07:34:28 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:41 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:40:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:32 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:33 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:48:41 -!- radinms has quit [] 07:50:47 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:52:56 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:54:35 !tell pleasingfungus berserk blocking ctele is an Authentic 4.1 Import, i believe (and made more sense when they were both crazy op) 07:54:35 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:54:35 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:54:38 !message 07:54:39 You probably meant !messages, or possibly !tell. 07:54:39 !messages 07:54:39 (1/1) |amethyst said (13h 58m 42s ago): thanks for investigating 07:55:45 man, I can't find the commit that let treeform drink potions 07:55:58 Did that not happen? 07:56:50 %git :/([Tt]ree|[Ll]ig).*drink 07:56:51 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-2153-g46f8a76: Don't instakill the player with antimagic 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 15+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=46f8a7640477 07:58:15 %git 2db33cbed 07:58:16 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3514-g2db33cb: Simplify using random_range. 10(11 hours ago, 2 files, 7+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2db33cbed315 07:58:51 |amethyst: i was hoping that made random_range templated ala random_choose so that you don't have to static_cast the output :P 07:59:05 should have had a , 07:59:33 Treeform can drink, right? I'm not crazy? 08:00:25 yeah 08:00:31 i'm fairly sure it was by marvinpa, if that helps 08:02:08 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:06:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:08:50 huh, treeform predates lignification qutie significantly 08:08:53 never knew 08:09:00 *quite 08:09:45 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:11:09 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:50 Lasty_: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=863e7eee2eac781ff42b57aa858849e85cf0ab52 08:16:06 i believe it would be this 08:16:25 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:17:26 !tell pleasingfungus also, what's up with the special cases for open sea and sea of lava? why doesn't whatever prevents blinking into walls help there? 08:17:26 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 08:21:22 * wheals notices that PF seems to have not noticed player::blink_to... 08:21:37 wow, i'm really nitpicking today :P 08:26:25 -!- Amnesthesia|Else has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:30:20 -!- swartzcr has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:30:37 kvaak: Thanks! 08:33:04 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45:48 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 08:55:05 Ice Fiend (161) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 78-115 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53), 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2892 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 08:55:05 %?? ice fiend 08:55:09 Hell Sentinel (071) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 122-161 | AC/EV: 25/3 08(spiny 5) | Dam: 40, 25 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2907 | Sp: hellfire (3d20) [06!sil], iron shot (3d33) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 08:55:09 %?? hell sentinel 08:55:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:01:31 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:06:36 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:55 -!- Lasty_ is now known as Lasty 09:06:59 -!- Lasty is now known as Lasty_ 09:11:33 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:37 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:13:17 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:47 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:17:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:30:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:30:50 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 09:31:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 09:34:20 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 09:35:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:36:18 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 09:41:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:11 -!- eeeeeta is now known as pets 09:44:16 -!- pets is now known as eeeeeta 09:45:34 wheals: I think it's that walls are solid, open sea/lava is not 09:45:35 PleasingFungus: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:50:47 wheals: yeah, I was only touching spl-transloc.cc and its callers. blink_to might be mergeable in some way, but there isn't really all that much overlap 09:51:13 !source feature-data.h 09:51:13 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/feature-data.h;hb=HEAD 09:52:13 both have FFT_SOLID 09:52:16 hrm 09:52:18 idk, then 09:54:27 code that doesn't make sense in crawl ??? 09:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3520-gff07f01: Actually check allow_control (|amethyst) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ff07f01ca52b 09:55:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3521-gb1b4986: Improve cblink/terrain interactions (wheals) 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1b4986551bc 09:55:40 speaking of weird sharing between player methods and plain functions, what's up with the delayed banishment thing 09:55:46 ? 09:56:21 you.banish() sets you.banished to true, and then a function in main.cc checks for that and calls banished() if so 09:56:21 except that some stuff calls banished() directly 09:56:30 <|amethyst> possibly because we didn't have fineffs yet? 09:56:35 oh 09:56:42 that would explain something 09:57:22 the time that my lugonu wrath ended, and then I got banished by lugonu a turn later 09:57:22 <|amethyst> getting banished in the middle of (say) a fireball would break severely 09:57:35 <|amethyst> or, more likely, the middle of a cleave attack 09:58:00 true, i guess this is what fineffs are now for though :) 09:58:12 PleasingFungus: there was also something with the banishment animation 09:58:16 %git :/animation 09:58:16 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-3205-g254a56b: Fix timing for the banishment animation. 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=254a56bd6699 09:59:21 I've never seen it in an actual game :( 09:59:38 -!- PleasingFungus has left ##crawl-dev 09:59:39 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:39 oh, it's disabled in webtiles? 09:59:39 wait nvm that's false, I was thinking of the orb animation 09:59:49 I just haven't got banished in a while 09:59:51 i think shatter is the only one that is, but i could be wrong 09:59:54 -!- Jho has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:55 but I've def seen it e.g. when spectating 09:59:57 idk 10:01:15 <|amethyst> hmm 10:02:17 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:02:39 ? 10:02:41 <|amethyst> ah, I guess the LOS requirement keeps that from being an info leak 10:03:40 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:44 <|amethyst> making cblink reprompt rather than randomise when targetting a wall etc 10:03:51 as long as it gets checked before in the function, i guess 10:04:00 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05:38 this will be an info leak when we add invisible features 10:06:13 feature mimics with invis! 10:07:12 -!- ibar has quit [Client Quit] 10:07:14 dang 10:19:54 PleasingFungus: i assume you saw the mystifying thing where someone declared struct card_with_weights and typedef'd it to deck_archetype 10:20:14 n 10:20:17 well 10:20:26 it would make more sense if they typedef'd an array of card_with_weights, though personally i don't know what the syntax is 10:20:26 The invisible translucent rock wall is an invisible mimic! 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(D:3) 13:13:57 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16:28 <|amethyst> !crashlog gronka 13:16:28 1. Gronka, XL5 VpAs, T:2829 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Gronka/crash-Gronka-20150106-191056.txt 13:19:41 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:30 -!- Alarkh has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:38 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Client Quit] 13:32:11 -!- Umbreoni has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:32:38 weird 13:35:39 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:38:48 <|amethyst> hm, maybe the corpse rotted during the delay? 13:41:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:42:16 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:38 plausible 13:46:52 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:50 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:57:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:03:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:05:05 -!- HDA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:35 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2) 14:06:01 Am I supposed to be able to find a deck of oddities? http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/HilariousDeathArtist/HilariousDeathArtist.txt 14:06:09 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2) 14:06:50 !blame PleasingFungus 14:06:50 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 14:06:50 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2) 14:08:08 -!- calyptra has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:08:50 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:36 -!- ws has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:13 hey. I have a weird bug report. 14:10:33 !crash 4tharraofdagon 14:10:34 7. 4tharraofdagon, XL16 HOGl, T:19226 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/4tharraofdagon/crash-4tharraofdagon-20150106-200643.txt 14:10:34 4tharraofdagon is now playing on crawl.lantea.net:8080 webtiles. 14:10:59 whenever he tries to go upstairs, the game crashes with "no such monster 1086" or something similar. 14:11:14 yes, we got the crash reports here 14:11:17 he's a Beogh follower, one of his permanents got polymorphed earlier 14:11:23 and got recalled later 14:11:25 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2) 14:11:56 (the permanent entered a Zot trap, turned from an orc to a snapturtle) 14:12:14 when 4tharra went back upstairs and recalled his allies, he got this guy back -- so it's probably this monster 14:12:40 "Orbeogh the alligator snapping turtle" 14:12:40 :D 14:12:40 4tharraofdagon (L16 HOGl) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 509: mid cache bogosity: no monster for 1086 (Depths:2) 14:15:14 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:29 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:24:17 -!- cognificent has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:24:41 hmm 14:24:47 is it possible to force your followers to step into zot traps 14:25:45 swapping, obviously 14:29:53 oh damn it 14:30:00 you can blow them with fan of gales but the trap won't activate :( 14:32:19 -!- Mottikins_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:32:57 sounds like a bug to me 14:33:03 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:33:34 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:33:43 Your neqoxec gestures at the emperor scorpion. _The emperor scorpion resists with almost no effort. 14:33:54 Is either malmutate or brain feed supposed to check MR? 14:34:07 on monsters yes 14:34:09 neqoxec (133) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 22-43 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 15 | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, lev | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 181 | Sp: malmutate [06!sil], brain feed [06!sil], sum.minor demon [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:34:09 %??neqoxec 14:34:15 I want to say brain feed, maybe 14:34:21 ??brain feed 14:34:21 brain feed[1/1]: Attempts to drain your intelligence by 1d3 points, succeeds 1/3 times. Smite-targeted, evil according to TSO. 14:34:29 oh, 'resists' 14:34:31 hrm 14:35:50 !source spl-data.h 14:35:51 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-data.h;hb=HEAD 14:35:57 yeah, the MR-style resist message sounds a bit buggy 14:35:59 !source mon-cast.cc 14:35:59 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD 14:36:02 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:36:10 malmutate checks MR 14:36:29 I don't know whether it's supposed to do that on monsters but it does anyway 14:36:40 just give a goblin malmutate and turn it friendly 14:37:02 It doesn't check MR on players of course 14:38:04 !source beam.cc 14:38:04 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/beam.cc;hb=HEAD 14:39:02 beam.cc:3370-3375 is why it doesn't check mr for the player 14:39:04 ps wtf 14:40:42 it does check rmut though, on top of being a rare and rather negligible threat in itself 14:43:50 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 14:45:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:53:39 -!- manman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:54:11 -!- cribozai has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:00:41 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 15:01:04 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:01:10 <|amethyst> I don't suppose there's any provision for repositioning things like the blade hands overlay on monster tiles? 15:01:18 <|amethyst> http://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/2rheif/blade_nipples/ 15:01:26 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:02:09 !learn add beam.cc wtf 15:02:10 beam.cc[2/2]: wtf 15:02:12 <3 15:02:20 ??beam.cc 15:02:20 beam.cc[1/2]: Q: What's the difference between a bolt and a beam? A: One leg is both the same. 15:02:52 |amethyst: imo ask gammafunk 15:02:54 as the monster tile expert 15:03:01 or weird tile expert 15:03:03 idk 15:03:26 -!- _aardvark has quit [] 15:04:49 <|amethyst> !tell gammafunk http://www.reddit.com/r/dcss/comments/2rheif/blade_nipples/ 15:04:49 |amethyst: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 15:04:59 well i can when I use the command 15:05:08 but not when i tell someone else how to use it 15:05:26 kind of like i have no idea where to put some of the keys when assembling a keyboard 15:08:00 <|amethyst> kvaak: reminds me of trying to answer my boss's questions about English (he's been speaking it almost as long as I, but it is not his first language) 15:08:26 <|amethyst> kvaak: Me: "I wouldn't use a 'the' there" Him: "Why not?" Me: *shrug* 15:09:21 <|amethyst> just today I was trying to figure out how to generalise a rule from "Let c be a circle of radius r" (why not "of the radius r"?) 15:09:48 is there a reason that dragon hides appear on butchering rather than on monster death 15:10:18 <|amethyst> doy: to make butchery vs reanimation a choice? 15:10:25 <|amethyst> s/choice/decision/ 15:10:26 ah, reanimation 15:10:31 forgot about that 15:11:33 <|amethyst> hm 15:12:27 <|amethyst> though I see that now vampires don't have to choose between eating/bottling and getting a hide 15:12:31 <|amethyst> I imagine that changed? 15:12:51 <|amethyst> and I guess animate skeleton does give you a hide 15:12:59 <|amethyst> (that's a change too, isn't it?) 15:14:15 i was just wondering specifically about sacrificing 15:14:22 since that's not a particularly interesting choice 15:14:30 well 15:14:44 that's why we've been phasing it out 15:14:48 :) 15:14:53 <|amethyst> it might have been more interesting for low-level oka worshippers when they sacced corpses 15:14:59 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:12 <|amethyst> since if you're low enough level, one fire dragon corpse could be a nice chunk of piety 15:20:22 well, who actually uses fire dragon armour though 15:20:24 (: 15:20:46 people who like ac, ev and spell success 15:22:51 -!- ghostmoth has quit [Quit: ghostmoth] 15:25:32 -!- manman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:27 It's relevant for Gozag still 15:26:54 (fr: if you kill a dragon while worshipping Gozag, there's a chance for it to drop a gold dragon hide) 15:27:10 how is that any better than the current system 15:27:46 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:51 <|amethyst> Lightli: I had imagined that, even if it were changed for normal killing of a dragon, Gozagites would still be special-cased to not give hides 15:27:59 <|amethyst> s/give/get/ 15:28:04 yeah 15:32:22 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33:28 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:31 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40:33 wait, what 15:40:41 blinking no longer breaks constriction? 15:40:45 it should 15:40:47 well 15:40:48 there's a chance 15:40:58 you get two (2) escape attempts 15:41:07 per blink 15:41:10 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:18 it's like double walking 15:41:23 and it's been like that for quite a while afaik 15:41:35 it's possible that I broke that but I don't think I did? 15:41:55 no, i've just never seen blinking not work 15:42:03 and it just happened to me 15:42:04 o 15:42:05 rip 15:42:12 <|amethyst> maybe if you are a spriggan constricted by a big monster 15:42:18 <|amethyst> it seems rather easy to escape in general 15:42:23 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:23 ya 15:42:29 possibly that should not be true 15:42:31 yeah, halfling + tentacled monstrosity 15:42:50 <|amethyst> blinking working vs not working was the cause of some drama a few years ago 15:42:57 <|amethyst> blinking and teleport 15:43:06 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:43:06 ? 15:43:08 teleport also doesn't work? 15:43:08 drama!? 15:43:16 <|amethyst> doy: teleport does now 15:43:19 ah, okay 15:43:52 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: dpeg did the design, and was very insistent that you not be able to teleport away from your constrictor 15:44:25 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: kb changed that without much discussion ("any objections" in IRC then changed it a few hours later) 15:44:34 <|amethyst> s/s"/s?"/ 15:44:39 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:44:42 heh 15:44:50 ~crawl design~ 15:45:27 <|amethyst> and that was the straw that broke the camel's back and made dpeg resign 15:45:33 ! 15:46:37 well, these days, kb isn't around, so there's no more drama. 15:46:38 the end :) 15:48:14 <|amethyst> it's a shame 15:48:29 <|amethyst> not that there's no more drama, but that there was, has been, and is 15:49:00 ya 15:49:19 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49:22 videogames should be fun; videogame dev should be fun 15:49:28 this is my controversial opinion 15:52:16 <|amethyst> As long as y'all keep writing bugs, I'll have fun 15:52:38 <|amethyst> (to be fair, half the bugs I fix are my own) 15:52:56 * ontoclasm resolves to never create another bug 15:53:05 suck it :U 15:53:16 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: but we need new wasp and hornet tiles! 15:53:34 whoa 15:53:58 <|amethyst> (I guess we don't necessarily, but the names did change so the colours aren't mandated now) 15:54:00 not even implied to be particularly large, really 15:54:08 i actually got paid for tile creation this week 15:54:14 bizarrely 15:54:25 a trend you can hopefully keep up 15:54:30 and yeah, wasps need to be redrawn 15:55:25 -!- WereVolvo1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:34 we still need three headed serpent of hell tiles too 15:55:47 <|amethyst> theTower: spriggan riders are the only thing I can think of that implies that 15:56:37 <|amethyst> theTower: well, taking up one square, but we already knew that crawl geometry is weird in that respect, cf. bats and elephants having the same footprint 15:57:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:18 (strictly speaking, riders still don't have wasp tiles anyway right) 15:57:20 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:57:30 right 15:57:43 i updated my tavern thread on Tiles That Need Fixing 15:58:01 <|amethyst> %git :/gan-siz 15:58:02 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-1842-g0e4e86c: Revert "Make spriggan riders spriggan-sized (#8751)" 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e4e86cbbb8c 15:58:33 <|amethyst> Apparently a cat riding on the back of a butterfly *is* the size of a jackal 16:01:38 -!- cribozai has quit [Changing host] 16:01:44 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:05:20 -!- cribozai has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:08:52 -!- fearitself has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:37 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:21:22 all this crawl server admin stuff has gotten me really liking vim 16:21:44 I'm finding myself getting annoyed when I'm using non-vim editors 16:22:21 like web based or IDE's? 16:22:28 lots of IDE's have vim plugins :) 16:24:19 well, I'm working at home on a laptop 16:24:23 and just doing some shell scripting 16:24:45 wanted to just delete the line I was on and tried to do it vim-style 16:24:48 didn't work 16:25:18 -!- ws has quit [Quit: ws has no reason] 16:26:42 you could install vim on your home laptop 16:32:03 gui vim is actually pretty nice 16:32:24 but vim annoys me as soon as the project contains >2 files I want open concurrently 16:32:24 I've never been very impressed with it 16:32:26 it's usable 16:32:44 are you comparing to tui vim? or something else 16:32:51 -!- Mottikins_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:33:37 -!- Mottikins__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:36:53 like, an actual text editor that wasn't written by people with 10-foot-long beards and a full set of unix-themed suspenders 16:37:16 I really like intelliJ IDE's + ideavim 16:37:30 deals with multiple files pretty well 16:37:51 although ideavim isnt a perfect implementation of vim, some things are missing 16:38:04 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:38:26 PleasingFungus: what do you usually use as a text editor? 16:39:23 !nickel text editor 16:39:23 Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better text editor. 16:39:29 nice 16:39:35 <3 16:39:39 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:40 tbh I haven't done any heavy text editing in a while. back in the day I used word, and then open office 16:39:46 both were generally aight 16:40:29 that's different from a code editor, ofc 16:41:21 ah yea, definitely different from code editing :P 16:41:58 * doy uses vim+latex for non-code editing 16:42:00 (: 16:43:18 I've been meaning to try that for a while, never got into latex myself! the documents look amazing though 16:50:21 -!- HDA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:50:39 -!- Limulus_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:26 -!- infrashortfoo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:00:43 sadly, most of my non-code editing is for work and must be in something Word-compatible 17:01:14 text files are word-compatible 17:01:53 but not compatible with Word document templates handed down by $boss 17:02:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:08:54 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:10:21 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:51 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:24 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:10 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:10 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please 17:22:10 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??cbro for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 17:22:23 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:52 -!- omni5cience_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:58 -!- Grunt has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:02 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:23:51 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:15 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:15 Ladykiller69 (L16 FoFi) (Lab) 17:24:18 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3521-gb1b4986 (34) 17:24:27 -!- vissborg has quit [Excess Flood] 17:24:27 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:28 -!- read has quit [Changing host] 17:24:29 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:43 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:13 -!- TAS_2012v has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:22 -!- broquaint has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:03 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:27:24 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:27:34 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:28:18 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:51 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 17:32:05 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:04 -!- Umbreoni has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:39:31 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:40:38 It looks like the current randart generation code works by checking each property in a given order, each success influencing future checks. +stats come first, which is probably why those properties are on everything. Is this ordered approach seen as desirable? 17:41:29 current randart generation code works 17:41:32 1learn add lies 17:41:38 it works, break it! 17:41:43 Now that's just mean 17:41:48 if it ain't broke, fix it until it is? 17:42:17 -!- Werehuman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:42:17 yes. 17:42:27 1learn add devteam 17:42:36 This could use some rewriting from scratch, sure 17:42:40 -!- siepu_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:57 // Armours get fewer powers, and are also more likely to be cursed // than weapons. 17:46:59 O.o 17:48:52 I bet a large amount of this is Linley code... 17:49:28 whoa. Some *rage artifacts are more likely to berserk you than others. Min: 1/100. Max: 9/100. 17:49:39 what 17:49:45 ?? *rage 17:49:46 hahaha 17:49:46 *rage[1/1]: Attacking with this weapon will make you go berserk sometimes. Chance is between 1/100 and 9/100 for randarts, fixedarts may have higher. 17:49:49 !send Lasty the wrath of Trog 17:49:49 Sending the wrath of Trog to Lasty. 17:49:59 er, Wrath, not wrath 17:50:02 there is a distinction! 17:50:02 rip 17:50:18 imho stick with the wrath 17:50:20 <_< 17:50:22 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 17:50:52 PleasingFungus, incinerated by the fiery rage of Trog 17:51:28 420 smoke shrooms 17:51:39 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:43 similarly, the rate of teleport causation can be between 5 and 19 17:51:54 on *tele 17:53:13 speaking of tele 17:53:18 is anything planned for ctele 17:55:15 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 17:55:52 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:08 -!- CacoS has quit [] 18:04:58 Is there a way to randomly create an randart item in wizmode? It seems like using + to make an existing item into a randart doesn't adjust the enchantment level . . . 18:05:47 Lasty: &% randart 18:05:56