00:07:54 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3494-g28000b7 (34) 00:10:46 -!- Werehuman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:16:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:57 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:33:08 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:35:57 yo 00:35:57 chequers: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:37:38 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:38:14 * chequers pokes gammafunk 00:39:45 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:40:05 gammafunk: nice refactor of conf.py 00:40:28 yeah, you did some of the same linebreaks :) 00:40:59 i was playing around with Atom and discovered it supports live linters which is where my cleanups started 00:41:31 I should probably try something like that 00:43:44 Some of the other cleanup commits you made I'll probably apply tomorrow, maybe with some follow-ups, then maybe I can look at the janitor code a bit more closely 00:44:07 it might be best to keep everything in tornado templates after all, but I need to see how what you have is working 00:44:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:30 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:44:31 right now I don't build a UI at all, so I'm curious to see what you're suggesting 00:44:48 my frontend skils are nonexistent so the idea of building UIs client side was basically beyond my comprehension :) 00:45:12 well it'd probably be something like what |amethyst suggested a while back, making a simple UI and returning the subcommand output 00:45:26 from what I understood, the janitor user doesn't get to see any subprocess output? 00:45:32 e.g. for the build crawl command? 00:46:03 that's right 00:46:33 I got annoyed trying to get my head around turning the code asyncrhonous to stream the output and made streaming a future enhancement 00:46:50 ok, well what could happen is we make a simple page either in the server (tornado html template) or on the client (javascript/react) 00:47:09 yeah if it's asynchronous, probably in the client would be the way to go 00:47:16 since you'd use json messages 00:47:19 to get the output 00:47:32 the client just polls the server, it's how the lobby works 00:47:46 and you can build up a simple ui programmatically no problem 00:47:49 it would be good to design the system to support that 00:48:33 otoh as simple an implementation as possible with reliable behaviour is what we want, and don't want to make it fancy Just Because 00:48:48 so I'll take a look at what you have an see what I can do 00:49:11 cool. fwiw I don't think I have a use-case for a UI yet, the two goals I was building for (save downloading and rebuilds) don't need one 00:49:39 yeah, def, I think if we can get a rebuild thing that can show the rebuild output as it's generated 00:49:45 we'd have most of what we need 00:50:05 oh and maybe a command to turn a crawl branch into a playable webtiles game entry 00:50:09 that'd be real nice 00:50:41 that's basically create a toml file, put it in the dir, send SIGUSR1 to webtiles 00:50:51 oh I guess it's also build the branch 00:50:52 yeah 00:51:02 yeah there are probably some other things |amethyst would know about 00:51:07 with that last feature it's almost turning the server into a seperate project 00:51:16 I've been mulling how I want to implement such a UI 00:55:38 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:56:05 !tell johnstein There's been some significant updates to webtiles-changes (new server score page, more use of player titles, various bugfixes, and merge of trunk). Would be great to have it rolled out to dbro for testing if you have time 00:56:05 gammafunk: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 01:03:34 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:03:37 -!- zerc has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:08:08 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:08:27 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 01:14:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:15:42 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:31:12 -!- fenzil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:52 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:39:45 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:44:57 -!- pwnmonkey__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50:22 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:00:58 -!- TMTurtle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:06:42 -!- fyaddon has quit [Client Quit] 02:10:25 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:21:25 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3494-g28000b7 (34) 02:23:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:29:31 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:31:29 -!- dd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:42:04 -!- simmarine__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:49:32 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:58:01 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 03:05:45 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:01 -!- broquain1 is now known as broquaint 03:26:11 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:17 -!- Guest78362 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:32:08 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:26 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:52:03 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:57:22 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:01:39 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:11:21 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:14:01 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:14:01 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:21:27 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:28:22 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:40:50 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:46:25 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:51:38 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 04:56:35 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:09:52 -!- Lebowski has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:11:24 03gammafunk02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.16-a0-3604-gfece369: Remove an incorrect module import statement 10(68 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fece36987f31 05:11:24 03gammafunk02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.16-a0-3605-g1ffdb4c: Generate the sprint games map in the WebTiles build 10(68 minutes ago, 3 files, 41+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffdb4cdfbbe 05:18:49 -!- syllogism_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:37 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:25:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32:48 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:39:48 -!- Shados has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:40:11 -!- Shados has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:10 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:42:52 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:46:49 -!- pwnmonkey__ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:23 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 06:02:59 -!- hurdos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08:29 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:20:12 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:26:16 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:40 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:30:00 !seen PleasingFungus 06:30:00 I last saw PleasingFungus at Sat Jan 3 19:18:35 2015 UTC (17h 11m 25s ago) quitting, saying 'Remote host closed the connection'. 06:31:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:34:05 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:36:40 -!- WereVolvo1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:43:37 -!- flowsnake_ is now known as flowsnake 06:46:33 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:18 !tell gammafunk I'll be home from vacation tonight. I'll work on updating DBRO this week 06:49:18 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 06:49:19 johnstein: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 06:49:24 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:07:47 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 09:28:37 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:29:16 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:31:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:37:28 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:37:33 !apt salamander 09:37:33 Could not understand "salamander" 09:37:40 i guess there's no way to make this work for experimental races 09:42:46 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:43:03 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:47:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:55:37 !stats salamander 09:55:37 Go start a salamander if you want me to know its starting stats. 09:55:53 hm, guess that excludes the experimentals 09:58:15 !stats salamander explbr=salamander 09:58:16 Go start a salamander if you want me to know its starting stats. 09:58:19 bah 10:01:01 !stats sa fe explbr=salamander 10:01:02 Subcommand $(!lm * begin char=sa fe explbr=salamander x=str,int,dex fmt:"Starting stats for ${char}: Str ${x[0]} Int ${x[1]} Dex ${x[2]}. Stat gain: Ce sd/4" stub:"Go start a sa if you want me to know its starting stats.") failed: fe is ambiguous: may be species or class. Use fe-- (Felid) or --fe (Fire Elementalist) to disambiguate in $(if $(= $(lower $(sub 2 ${1... 10:01:22 !stats sa --fe explbr=salamander 10:01:22 Go start a sa if you want me to know its starting stats. 10:01:33 ok, some subcommand is stripping explbr :( 10:01:45 i already started and won one, silly Sequell 10:02:55 experimental branches are excluded from most queries (indeed, until recently they weren't even tracked by sequell at all) 10:03:14 much as most queries exclude sprints and zotdef unless explicitly requested 10:03:57 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Client Quit] 10:08:19 -!- Erashi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:08:59 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:10:28 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:12:27 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:25:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:52 I'm aware of that, that's why I was puzzled by the fact !lg/!lm include them by default but the same can't be said for other commands 10:36:38 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:36:47 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:42:05 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:46:01 <|amethyst> !learn add wiki A Japanese wiki for DCSS players is at http://mars.kmc.gr.jp/~dis/dcss_wiki/ 10:46:02 wiki[2/2]: A Japanese wiki for DCSS players is at http://mars.kmc.gr.jp/~dis/dcss_wiki/ 10:48:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:51:38 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:12 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:59:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:25 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:55 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:08:26 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3495-g9b66542: Credit D++ 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b66542c42b7 11:12:25 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:17:25 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:18:18 !help !stats 11:18:19 !stats: Provides starting stats for the given starting character, such as !stats GhBe. 11:18:33 kvaak: You want to specify a character, not a species 11:18:40 !stats satm 11:18:41 Starting stats for SaTm: Str 9 Int 13 Dex 14. Stat gain: Ce sd/4 11:19:07 what about apts? 11:19:15 (also I thought Sa had sid/4, the more you know) 11:19:21 apts are trunk-only 11:19:30 I don't know if that command is actually correct, it's user-defined 11:20:31 probably it is, I just assumed it's same as Na for some reason 11:21:12 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3494-g28000b7 (34) 11:22:12 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:23:05 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:46 kvaak: The stat gain bit is wrong because it's just looking up ??sid 11:23:48 ??sid 11:23:48 stat gain[2/2]: Ce sd/4 | DD si/4 | DE i/4 | Dg sid/2 | Dr sid/4 | Ds sid/4 | Fe id/5 | Fo si/4 | Gh s/5 | Gr si/4 | Ha d/5 | HE id/3 | HO s/5 | Hu sid/4 | Ko sd/5 | Mf sid/5 | Mi sd/4 | Mu none | Na sid/4 | Og s/3 | Op sid/5 | Sp id/5 | Te sid/4 | Tr s/3 | Vp none | VS sd/4 11:23:51 ^^ doesn't have Sa 11:24:12 oh. duh. 11:29:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:32:12 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:32:28 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:38 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:38:14 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45:03 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:29 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:52 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54:26 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:47 -!- SANIC has quit [Client Quit] 11:59:57 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:18 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [] 12:16:23 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:19 -!- syllogism__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:29 -!- syllogism_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:24:48 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:28:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:41 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:43:33 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:44:01 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:45:18 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:45 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:48:16 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:48:55 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:54 -!- Jho is now known as Deviljho 12:53:50 -!- RKF has quit [Quit: Bye!] 12:55:04 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:59:17 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:33 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:00:58 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:01:16 -!- TR_Muscateer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:02:36 !tell pleasingfungus i support shoals-lite, if you pay me off by implementing Death Yak Toss for Polyphemus 13:02:37 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:02:37 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:52 Here: Polyphemus, quivering 3 death yaks 13:06:31 from january 9, 2010 (seven days after ##crawl-dev logs began): he could throw death yaks <3 * greensnark adds to todo. 13:06:43 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09:01 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:10:17 is there any info on shoals-lite? 13:10:29 ??shoals-lite 13:10:29 shoals-lite[1/1]: Tides only go between shallow water & land (never deep water); ten times faster than classic crawl. Modeled off what word of mouth claims Crawl Lite does with Shoals. 13:10:35 oh 13:12:37 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:29 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 13:34:40 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 13:35:52 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:40:37 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:42 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:13 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:24 !tell PleasingFungus lol sobriquet 13:57:24 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:57:59 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:15 wheals: death yak toss is forbidden until you make ghost crabs Quite Powerful 13:58:40 i can't do that, only tavern can 13:58:49 I see... 13:59:31 !learn edit shoals-lite[1] s/10/15/ 13:59:31 No change: regex `10` does not match `Tides only go between shallow water & land (never deep water); ten times faster than classic crawl. Modeled off what word of mouth claims Crawl Lite does with Shoals.` 13:59:36 er 13:59:47 !learn edit shoals-lite[1] s/ten/fifteen/ 13:59:48 shoals-lite[1/1]: Tides only go between shallow water & land (never deep water); fifteen times faster than classic crawl. Modeled off what word of mouth claims Crawl Lite does with Shoals. 14:00:43 word of mouth design keeps crawl development Agile. 14:02:09 %git :/game-map 14:02:11 Could not find commit :/game-map (git returned 128) 14:02:25 %git webtiles-changes 14:02:25 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-3605-g1ffdb4c: Generate the sprint games map in the WebTiles build 10(10 hours ago, 3 files, 41+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ffdb4cdfbbe 14:03:43 |amethyst: I spent probably 30 minutes crying over how to make the Makefile start with a variable containing just the word "sprint" and create both a target for dat/des/sprint/sprint.toml and a rule of webserver/game_map.py -q dat/des/sprint 14:04:21 |amethyst: in the end I had to just put dat/des/sprint/sprint.toml in my variable, since I couldn't figure out how to get something like "dat/des/%/%.toml" 14:04:34 this is regarding 1ffdb4c 14:05:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:49 -!- _miek_ is now known as _miek 14:06:34 Killing a thorn hunter does not give Okawaru piety. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9381 by Sphara 14:07:45 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:18 he's not building a bloody garden up there 14:09:44 Okawaru grants you a gift. You wield the -4 rake "Plog" {rN+ Str-3 Dex+1 Contam}. 14:10:25 wow, you're really raking him over the coals 14:10:45 No way, we're like peas in a pod. 14:12:57 chequers: I ran developer tools on cpo game load to see why it tends to just take forever: Uncaught Error: Load timeout for modules: game-e7d5715ec9a8a00d4b65b75b9bbf88953171c493/cell_renderer,game-e7d5715ec9a8a00d4b65b75b9bbf88953171c493/map_knowledge,game-e7d5715ec9a8a00d4b65b75b9bbf88953171c493/tileinfo-dngn,game-e7d5715ec9a8a00d4b65b75b9bbf88953171c493/util,game-e7d5715ec9a8a00d4b65b75b9bbf88953171c493/view_data,game-e7d5715ec9a8 14:13:04 er 14:13:07 sorry, should have trimmed that 14:13:26 since when are the gods in the heavens 14:13:55 they're just on the surface? 14:14:26 what is the surface in a dungeon with shoals 14:14:37 <|amethyst> on top of Olympus / all covered with gods / I lost my identity / to Internet frauds 14:14:37 they're actually below zot 14:14:58 or actually, that's where the lava orcs are, isn't it 14:15:06 wheals: the djinn 14:15:09 ...maybe the gods are lava orcs 14:15:31 it's the Fire branch, just LO and Dj species monsters and zombies 14:15:55 and skeletons I guess 14:16:46 should replace the gehenna salamanders with lava orcs 14:16:47 is it where minmay_lava_sea went 14:17:32 theTower: what did they do to deserve to be in hell!? 14:17:52 what did the salamanders do 14:18:19 chequers: ...huh, I can't seem to edit my rc on cpo; I get the edit box but it accepts no input 14:19:33 oh actually, I'm realizing that I get the edit box, and no rc contents either 14:19:40 it must be taking a long time to load the contents 14:23:51 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:24:38 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 14:31:21 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 14:31:29 -!- Calisca2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:33:41 i feel like cards need much more power scaling, yaktaurs on d:3 is ridiculous 14:33:56 then again i'm playing a mumo, so it's hard to tell whether it's just the combo being super strong 14:34:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:38:17 maybe power scaling isn't the right word, there is that, but i feel like evo should be more important? 14:38:31 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:36 i have 2.4 and just summoned a panlord :/ 14:39:10 pentagram card is pretty op 14:39:20 but also pretty rare I think? 14:39:49 well, an obvious point would be for it taking until 6* for legendary decks to be gifted at all? 14:40:05 that could help 14:44:33 -!- debo has quit [Quit: orb spiders :(] 14:44:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:59 rangers card should also have a lower tier, kobolds with blowguns and hand crossbows 14:48:51 centaur (07c) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 15-30 | AC/EV: 3/7 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, archer | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 114 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 14:48:51 %??centaur 14:48:52 deep dwarf (12g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 19-36 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 130 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:48:52 %??deep dwarf 14:50:01 well, it is weaker 14:50:18 halfling (15p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 7-15 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 30 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 14:50:18 %??halfling 14:52:24 i forget, does HD still matter for monster ranged 14:53:22 Grunt: are you watching LogicNinja playing it SaFE 14:53:29 !games sa 14:53:30 No milestones for sa (alive). 14:53:40 !games race=salamander 14:53:41 No milestones for wheals (race=salamander alive). 14:53:44 !games * race=salamander 14:53:44 oh is that stil 14:53:45 Current games for * (race=salamander): LogicNinja: L27 SaFE^Veh | ahabkang: L18 SaGl^Oka | FishServ: L16 SaFE^Kiku | tabstorm: L14 SaBe^Trog | lawman0: L13 SaCK^Xom | MorganLeah: L10 SaGl^Trog | duckroller: L7 SaGl^Fedhas | MelekSA: L5 SaSk^ | agentgt: L4 SaFE^Fedhas | HELLO: L4 SaFE^ | Cursuviam: L1 SaFE^ | bananaken: L1 SaFE^ | friendlybee: L1 SaCj^ | miek: L1 SaFE^ | musickiller: L1 SaGl^ | syn... 14:53:48 oh, right 14:53:49 or that 14:53:51 !games * sa 14:53:52 Current games for * (sa): LogicNinja: L27 SaFE^Veh | ahabkang: L18 SaGl^Oka | FishServ: L16 SaFE^Kiku | tabstorm: L14 SaBe^Trog | lawman0: L13 SaCK^Xom | MorganLeah: L10 SaGl^Trog | duckroller: L7 SaGl^Fedhas | MelekSA: L5 SaSk^ | agentgt: L4 SaFE^Fedhas | HELLO: L4 SaFE^ | Cursuviam: L1 SaFE^ | bananaken: L1 SaFE^ | friendlybee: L1 SaCj^ | miek: L1 SaFE^ | musickiller: L1 SaGl^ | synapse: L1 SaFE... 14:54:00 !lg * sa won 14:54:01 3. perunasaurus the Black Belt (L22 SaTm of Okawaru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-12-31 22:30:06, with 1607742 points after 63043 turns and 5:03:01. 14:54:06 at least a third one was won at some point 14:54:17 ??greatesterplayer 14:54:17 greatesterplayer ~ greatesterplayers[1/1]: Players who have done all the combos in a streak. 14:54:25 ??greatestplayer 14:54:26 greatestplayers[1/1]: Players who have won every currently available to play combo. Lifetime membership once you get in! 14:54:38 hm 14:54:52 what are you looking for 14:55:08 where was the one with "every currently available to play, along with one that isn't" 14:55:53 ??greaterestplayers 14:55:54 greaterestplayers[1/1]: Players who have won every currently available to play combo as well as at least one combo that hasn't yet existed in a stable release. 14:56:56 Grunt: he even has an akashic record!!! 14:56:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:59:18 heh, lair set has a hellephant hanging around 14:59:22 is that your fault theTower 14:59:36 yes 15:00:02 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00:14 if only regular lair could have a hellephant 15:00:15 ziggephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 135-191 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic | Res: 06magic(140), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3551 | Sp: fire storm (8d16 / 8d15) [06!sil], blink range [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 15:00:15 %??hellephant spells:fire_storm.50.demonic;blink_range.50.demonic name:ziggephant 15:00:32 hm, something's off 15:00:35 ziggephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 50 | HP: 393-465 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic | Res: 06magic(140), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: fire storm (8d38 / 8d39) [06!sil], blink range [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 15:00:35 %??hellephant spells:fire_storm.50.demonic;blink_range.50.demonic name:ziggephant hd:50 15:00:45 much better 15:01:10 ??blink range 15:01:10 blink range[1/1]: Blinks the caster a distance away from the player. 15:01:27 ??faq[blink range 15:01:27 I don't have a page labeled faq[blink range in my learndb. 15:01:36 does blink away still exist 15:01:49 jumping spider (12s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 22-43 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 2016(ensnare), 508(poison:16-32) | see invisible, web sense | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 300 | Sp: blink close [11!AM, 06!sil], blink away [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: insect. 15:01:49 %??jumping spider 15:04:57 ok apparently the _AWAY is random_space_weighted(mon, caster, false, false, true); and _RANGE is random_space_weighted(mon, foe, false, true); 15:05:37 personally I'm wondering when's blink allies away 15:05:49 Vashnia (11N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 16 | HP: 160 | AC/EV: 6/18 | Dam: 25, 703(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(120), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 2810 | Sp: portal projectile, blink allies away, blink away, blink other [04emergency], s.golubria | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 15:05:49 %??vashnia 15:06:06 sooner than you think! 15:06:21 ...curses, I got the name wrong 15:06:26 blink allies range, clearly 15:06:48 and blink other away 15:07:10 and blink other range, which would make rather less sense 15:07:23 ...we need a bitfield to express the variety of blink spells 15:08:19 well, doesn't blink other range give distance required for range for the monster still, except with more disruptiveness 15:11:22 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:19:51 -!- Deviljho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:22:22 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:24:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Client Quit] 15:32:42 .gfnext 15:32:42 MiBe^Makky 15:32:53 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:59 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:33:04 !hs * mibe malcolm 15:33:05 No keyword 'malcolm' 15:33:07 !hs * mibe makh 15:33:08 42. PurpleRed the Axe Maniac (L27 MiBe of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-06-25 11:26:28, with 52426908 points after 27486 turns and 11:01:39. 15:33:20 which entry on the hs list is that 15:33:24 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:38 probably not top 10 15:33:52 oh no. 8 15:34:04 oh no indeed 15:34:19 well, do you think I'm going for 27k or something, sheesh 15:34:25 just want a fast win 15:34:46 too new at melee speedruns to be that agressive 15:34:49 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:40 we believe in you, someday you will figure out how to speedrun 15:35:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Client Quit] 15:35:59 !hs wheals 15:35:59 3363. wheals the Grand Master (L27 DrTm of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-09-18 16:35:43, with 13167153 points after 121725 turns and 6:48:29. 15:36:05 so embarrassing 15:36:47 !lg wheals won min=turns 15:36:47 23. wheals the Slayer (L23 TrWr of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-10-07 15:44:01, with 2121252 points after 40412 turns and 2:32:54. 15:37:41 grand master naga (13N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 30 | HP: 139-187 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 27, 703(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 10216 | Sp: spit poison (d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], b.venom (3d33), mystic blast (3d32), haste, poison arrow (3d37), teleport other, teleport self [04emergency] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 15:37:41 %??greater naga name:grand_master_naga n_rpl hd:30 15:37:55 !lm wheals trwr rune s=noun,turns won min=turns 15:37:55 3 milestones for wheals (trwr rune won): serpentine (22744), barnacled (24397), silver (34992) 15:38:09 -!- thricedotted has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:38:10 !lm . rune min=turns 15:38:10 240. [2014-10-07 14:26:35] wheals the Brawler (L16 TrWr of Makhleb) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 22744. (Snake:5) 15:38:57 !calc 40400.0 + 1000.0 + 1500.0 + 2000.0 + 6000.0 + 5000.0 15:38:59 55900 15:39:19 yeah your best would have been likely 55k-60k 15:39:34 not gammafunk tier at all, but it's *something* 15:40:34 not a very ideal background by any means, but Tr can solve that problem 15:40:37 !hs * wr 15:40:38 57385. Yermak the Ninja (L25 SpWr of Dithmenos), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-03-22 00:05:50, with 38794790 points after 37431 turns and 10:34:25. 15:40:46 heh 15:42:16 -!- omnirizo1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:44:57 -!- WereVolvo1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45:37 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:50 -!- link_108 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:27 gammafunk: not sure what those errors you posted are 15:49:55 chequers: well, it was timing out loading the js, which I guess isn't really any direct fault of cpo 15:50:11 when I reload, I think they'd loaded so the game loaded 15:50:16 the rc thing is a known issue but I haven't looked into it, I've touched your file so you should be able to edit it now 15:50:24 oh 15:50:26 ohhh, I've seen those symptoms many times 15:50:40 yeah, we need to load the requirements more intelligently, somehow 15:50:43 another webtiles-changes issue is that the game gets slower over time. I'm not sure why on that one either 15:50:56 hrm, that's a general problem with webtiles 15:50:58 but reloading is a quick painless fix once you know 15:51:01 -!- link_1081 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:19 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:19 I had a look for memory leaks in the js but couldn't see any, but I'm basically scrabbling blindly when it comes to frontend dev 15:51:46 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:51:51 also, back at work today so less dcss time the next fortnight 15:59:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:59:21 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:00:05 <_miek> chequers: Have you noticed the bug when crawling through abyss that sometimes it shows monsters that aren't actually there? 16:00:11 <_miek> in your "nearby" list in the right 16:00:22 <_miek> I think I've seen it in other places, but its very prominent in abyss 16:00:37 _miek: is this something you only see on cpo? 16:00:38 <_miek> you tele away from a bone dragon, and then half the time you're walking it says there is a bone dragon nearby when there isn't 16:00:45 <_miek> gammafunk: I think so 16:00:50 <_miek> but not 100% sure 16:00:55 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:57 I'll check that out 16:01:17 <_miek> I was doing tele-abyss on an OgBe recently and that kept happening 16:01:36 _miek: actually the bone dragon is still nearby. but you cant see it because its right behind you 16:01:48 in fact, its behind you right now 16:03:02 bone dragons are *spooky* 16:04:57 _miek: try to replicate on cbro which is also webtiles-changes 16:05:52 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:45 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:07:06 dbro is webtiles-changes 16:07:19 from about a month or more ago 16:07:38 CBRO is still webtiles-classic 16:07:48 heh, webtiles-classic, I love it 16:11:16 <_miek> I'd have to get a game that far to do that :S 16:13:09 DBRO has wizmode 16:13:13 & 16:13:21 then go nuts 16:16:36 <_miek> ah yep 16:16:40 <_miek> ??dbro 16:16:40 dbro[1/3]: The development wing of CBRO. ssh to dev.berotato.org user: dev same ssh keys as cbro (http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys). Currently serving mediocre crawl dev versions and Dwarf Fortress (running in TEXT mode) Set your terminal size to 80x25 (!) and ensure you are using UTF-8 character set. 16:16:51 <_miek> hmmm 16:16:55 <_miek> ??dbro[2 16:16:55 dbro[2/3]: Combined gamelog (from all DF games on the server) currently being announced in ##crawl-df 16:16:58 <_miek> ??dbro[3 16:16:58 dbro[3/3]: Also available in webtiles form at http://dev.berotato.org:8081 16:19:07 -!- DocEon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:20:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 16:21:36 <_miek> so far doesn't appear to be happening 16:22:07 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:46 what's the difference between dbro and experimental cbro 16:22:53 -!- bcarpe212 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:26:52 dbro isnt tracked i dont think 16:27:31 yea 16:27:34 dbro hosts my rockin builds 16:27:45 some of Bloax's versions 16:28:23 the main distinguishing factor is that dbro builds are not in the official crawl repo 16:28:43 !learn rm dbro[2 16:28:43 Deleted dbro[2/3]: Combined gamelog (from all DF games on the server) currently being announced in ##crawl-df 16:29:10 is df still a thing or no? 16:29:15 the DF stuff works but isn't really played much. I may even still have it turned off after the last tourney 16:29:16 -!- SANIC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:22 it hammers the server 16:29:43 DF eats ALL the RAMs 16:31:31 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:37:10 is it on the same box/vm as CBRO? maybe that's why it felt so slow earlier today :P 16:39:51 -!- CountOfHearts has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:40:35 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:38 !lm devteamnp uniq=saint_roka min=turns 16:43:47 1485. [2009-08-29 21:40:30] rob the Hacker (L13 DDBe of Trog) killed Saint Roka on turn 5078. (Snake:3) 16:43:53 !lm devteamnp uniq=saint_roka min=turns -2 16:43:56 1484/1485. [2015-01-04 22:42:44] gammafunk the Severer (L11 MiBe of Trog) killed Saint Roka on turn 5151. (Orc:4) 16:43:59 almost 16:44:01 yea they are on the same 16:44:05 curse you rob! 16:46:43 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:46 slain by by 16:47:11 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:13 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3496-g6490362: Don't apply melee brands to thrown missiles (#9338) 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6490362e1a04 16:58:10 <|amethyst> Grunt: let me know if anything looks funny with 6490362... I didn't add anything to ranged_attack's constructor because it seemed like that was handled later in inflict_damage 16:58:41 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:30 !lm devteamnp uniq=saint_roka min=xl 17:01:32 1485. [2012-10-21 21:17:49] bh the Cleaver (L9 HOPr of Beogh) killed Saint Roka on turn 8490. (Orc:4) 17:01:57 !lm devteamnp uniq=saint_roka min=xl -2 17:01:59 1484/1485. [2009-07-28 21:11:34] Keskitalo the Worldly Agent (L11 DDHe of Elyvilon) killed Saint Roka on turn 17501. (Swamp:1) 17:02:04 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:18 guess mi level up pretty fast 17:04:20 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3496-g6490362 (34) 17:05:58 -!- XuaXua has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:06:07 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:06:32 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:06:33 -!- vede has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:07:29 !title worldly angent 17:07:30 Subcommand $(=title.skill.inv recent worldly angent) failed: No keyword 'angent' in $(or $(=title.title recent $... 17:07:35 !title worldly agent 17:07:36 Subcommand $(=title.skill.inv recent worldly agent) failed: No keyword 'agent' in $(or $(=title.title recent $... 17:07:40 !title worldly_agent 17:07:42 worldly_agent: Invocations (Makhleb), Invocations (Yredelemnul), Invocations (Elyvilon), Invocations (Kikubaaqudgha), Invocations (The Shining One), Invocations (Sif Muna), Invocations (Zin), Invocations (Okawaru) 17:07:50 ...zeh 17:07:50 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:15 I guess it was super old 17:08:25 (where's the monster worldly agents) 17:10:41 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3497-g356bc21: Apply rElec to storm cloud damage (mayniac) 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=356bc213d39a 17:12:05 %git bb92e1af 17:12:05 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2352-gbb92e1a: Move clouds beam types into data 10(7 weeks ago, 1 file, 20+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb92e1af023e 17:12:10 PPPFFF 17:12:35 hm 17:12:37 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12:42 <|amethyst> looks like it was wrong before that :) 17:13:38 yes 17:13:55 it was right here: 17:14:00 %git 75deb85f 17:14:00 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2858-g75deb85: Rod of frigid destruction -> Rod of clouds. 10(10 months ago, 17 files, 368+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=75deb85f6e81 17:14:01 <|amethyst> the reporter also suggests either making the storm card not place a cloud under the player, or guaranteeing a move before it triggers 17:15:01 after dying a lot to the storm cloud I'd also like relec 17:15:06 <|amethyst> hm, is there any way to deduce actor_cloud_resist from the beam type? 17:15:16 well, relec works now!! 17:15:26 |amethyst: use the new static function in fight.cc? 17:15:35 %git :/sane 17:15:36 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-3215-g5dfac0e: Make calling resist_adjust_damage() more sane. 10(2 weeks ago, 18 files, 94+ 143-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5dfac0e1091a 17:18:20 I'm having a hard time figuring out what this code is doing 17:18:53 <|amethyst> let's see, would need to add rain (needs a beam, isn't the same as water), holy flames, petrify (needs a beam but one exists) 17:19:44 <|amethyst> oh, and actor_cloud_immune has other stuff 17:20:36 <|amethyst> Grunt: which, the cloud stuff? 17:21:27 |amethyst: yes 17:21:47 <|amethyst> _actor_cloud_resist seems to not actually be used for resistance-checking 17:21:56 |amethyst: yes 17:21:58 which is bizarre 17:22:46 <|amethyst> hm... using a beam as it does would allow it to respect resist fractions 17:24:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:24:27 should bother to figure out another aoe effect on a bland card so that storm isn't the only option for aoe destruction 17:24:40 <|amethyst> it seems that _actor_cloud_damage affects: immunity (..._base_damage), "You resist." (actor_apply_cloud), and monster AI (_mons_avoid_cloud) 17:24:50 <|amethyst> err 17:24:59 <|amethyst> _actor_cloud_resist rather, not _damage 17:25:01 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:25:07 clearly need hammer card to have an earth disc of storms effect with the lower-tier shots and an orb of fragmentation 17:30:36 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:26 were there ever any species that could worship two gods? 17:34:32 chequers: it's on the won't-do list 17:34:32 no 17:34:41 !send chequers ettins 17:34:41 Sending ettins to chequers. 17:35:30 heh 17:35:56 all species except demigods can worship two gods 17:36:02 just 17:36:09 not at the same time 17:36:30 xom wrath is like worshipping xom 17:36:38 also, unless you're an atheist, a no-gold challenge run, or a Gozagite, you're worshipping your god and Mammon 17:36:38 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:36:53 odd, I thought you can't do both 17:37:15 I was wondering how much rng I could pack into a single game: demonspawn, nemelex, xom, ??? 17:37:18 maybe it's just gozagites that can then 17:37:26 chequers: so DsCj 17:37:28 er 17:37:29 wow 17:37:34 DsJr! 17:37:37 DsJr is what I was trying to type 17:37:38 !send wheals MOLOCH 17:37:39 Sending MOLOCH to wheals. 17:37:49 ontoclasm: :( 17:37:49 poor mister hadad 17:37:51 !wtf Jr 17:37:51 Jester* 17:37:52 !send Moloch ontoclasm 17:37:53 Sending ontoclasm to Moloch. 17:38:02 ontoclasm: my best game of ADOM died last night to a greater moloch 17:38:11 DsJr doesn't sound remotely as random as DsCK 17:38:14 * ontoclasm feels (more) negative! 17:38:15 *THUMB* 17:38:22 *THUMB* *THUMB* *THUMB* 17:38:23 <|amethyst> !pass Grunt through the fire to Molech 17:39:08 !send Grunt antaeus' thumb 17:39:08 Sending antaeus' thumb to Grunt. 17:39:20 *THUMBNAIL* 17:39:27 !send wheals *THUMB* *THUMB* *THUMB* 17:39:27 Sending *THUMB* *THUMB* *THUMB* to wheals. 17:39:42 (more) 17:39:46 "...but I do bite my thumb!" 17:40:05 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:40:07 bah, titans don't even ignore PV 17:40:20 inchling (15i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 18-30 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 217 | Sz: little | Int: high. 17:40:20 %??spriggan name:inchling n_rpl 17:40:44 filk (11i) | Spd: 18 | HD: 11 | HP: 100 | AC/EV: 0/20 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 2148 | Sz: little | Int: high. 17:40:44 %??agnes name:filk 17:40:48 i've been playing qud 17:40:49 mm 17:40:56 i got murdered by an albino ape 17:40:56 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 17:40:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:43:24 seen on HDA's game: Something assumes the form of Wiglaf! 17:43:35 was it wayne 17:43:39 ha 17:43:40 !!!! 17:43:54 -!- Monchi2 has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:44:14 !lm . br.enter=shoals 17:44:15 87. [2015-01-04 23:39:10] gammafunk the Severer (L13 MiBe of Trog) entered the Shoals on turn 8208. (Lair:6) 17:47:00 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:50:07 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:52:01 i haaate merging 17:52:39 Two chequers merge to form a large chequer. 17:52:48 an exchequer 17:52:53 dang. 17:53:12 <_miek> what do you use for merges? 17:53:32 vi 17:53:52 <_miek> maybe that's why? :P 17:54:10 <_miek> I like meld, although it does have the downside of requiring X and stuff 17:54:19 <_miek> actually no I think there's a curses version 17:54:28 I think merges are hard in general when both sides have rewritten the same file differently 17:54:28 <_miek> can't speak to its quality thuogh 17:54:34 <_miek> yeah true 17:55:07 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:55:09 i think I'll just cherry pick my changes on top of the updated master 17:59:50 -!- syllogism__ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01:35 * doy recommends https://github.com/mhagger/git-imerge again 18:02:31 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:05:37 -!- CacoS has quit [] 18:14:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14:54 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:20:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 18:21:16 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:38:09 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:38:10 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:38:23 magicpoints (L16 CeAr) ASSERT(in_bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1429 failed. (mon->target = (12,69)) (Crypt:2) 18:38:43 oh hey 18:38:50 I was just trying to spectate that game 18:39:14 wow rip 18:39:20 what have you done gammafunk!!!!!! 18:39:31 !crashlog magicpoints 18:39:32 2. magicpoints, XL16 CeAr, T:20660 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/magicpoints/crash-magicpoints-20150105-003810.txt 18:39:44 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: What have I done!!!] 18:40:03 rip. 18:40:50 !log 18:40:51 1435. magicpoints, XL16 CeAr, T:20681: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/magicpoints/morgue-magicpoints-20150105-004025.txt 18:48:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:37 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:39 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:19 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:13:46 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:06 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:14:14 -!- Nakatomy2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:36 -!- pikaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:30:22 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:16 -!- Yllodra has quit [] 19:32:59 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:33 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:09 |amethyst: perhaps the third rN+ message should be "you feel extremely resistant" rather than a pure duplicate of the second message 19:42:53 -!- bedkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:50:09 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 19:50:37 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50:54 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:01 "You feel a little unpleasant." 19:52:09 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:00 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:15:54 you feel a little annoying... 20:16:27 -!- LePlatypus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:58 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:18:22 -!- WalkerBoh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:21:34 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:09 -!- fridurmus has quit [Client Quit] 20:23:15 -!- gabbo01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:23:15 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:26:18 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:27:34 -!- claws has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:37 -!- claws is now known as theTower 20:45:20 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:58 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:14:23 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:18:15 -!- TR_Muscateer has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:29 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:25:27 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:29:45 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:30:26 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:30:29 -!- AlphaQ_ is now known as AlphaQ 21:31:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:32:42 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:12 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:45:44 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:50:23 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:22 fr crazy yuif should sometimes generate friendly 21:52:16 that would be 21:52:16 crazy 21:55:41 <|amethyst> hm 21:56:19 <|amethyst> chequers: no objection to that, but there are 21:56:23 <|amethyst> err 21:56:37 <|amethyst> chequers: there are several mutations that could use such a tweak 21:56:48 <|amethyst> chequers: not sure how beneficial it is though 21:57:23 <|amethyst> I was copying MUT_{COLD,FIRE}_RESISTANCE 21:58:08 I will send you a patch 22:00:59 twisted res got removed, right? 22:02:01 as a player spell 22:02:21 enemies can still cast it? 22:02:44 yes 22:11:10 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11:22 fr: rename wraiths 22:12:12 one questiona bout mutation change messages eg "Your vision blurs" 22:12:24 some of them change, and refer to previous messages, but some are independant 22:12:36 eg the blurry vision messages are the above for all three levels 22:13:22 but eg regeneration changes message based on previous messages "You begin to heal more quickly." -> "You regenerate" 22:13:56 you might notice earlier someone brought one of those up as something to be fixed. which I think is the current idea in general; they should not be the same 22:13:58 could I write messages like "There is a nasty taste in your mouth" -> "The nasty taste in your mouth gets worse." -> "The nasty taste in your mouth is super duper bad" ? Or should I leave them the same 22:14:15 oh, I didn't. and cool, I just had the same idea 22:14:29 oh, sorry, that was you earlier too :[ 22:14:31 :p 22:14:38 but in any case it has come up before 22:15:12 in some cases the history is that the only thing additional levels did was make the mut harder to remove, without otherwise changing it (I *think* this is never true any more) 22:15:45 but in general, the same-messages thing is fixed when someone notices and brings it up 22:15:55 ok 22:16:28 sometimes it's delayed because they consider adjusting the mutation at the same time, again based on that ancient history where multiple levels of some mutations just made it harder to remove 22:16:54 but I think I've seen some other mutations get adjusted because it made people consider that the additional levels didn't mean much 22:17:02 <|amethyst> Note that these aren't the mutation descriptions in A 22:17:06 <|amethyst> these are the on-gain messages 22:17:28 right 22:17:46 yes 22:18:34 I think I recall a couple of cases where people went "this should say something different" -> "you know, this mut really *isn't* that much different at higher levels" -> ... 22:19:47 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:19:52 (although the only case I can think of off the top of my head was slow healing, which was not triggered by the gain-mut messages) 22:20:18 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:20:57 maybe I'm just remembering one of the "multiple levels just make it harder to remove" old muts 22:21:06 that one has quite variant messaging, I almost feel the messages are so different it's not obvious slow healing with monsters transitions to no healing 22:21:21 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:22:24 -!- pwnmonkey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:25:17 -!- pwnmonkey__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:28:58 -!- ruwin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 22:34:16 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 22:35:21 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 22:39:23 -!- Deviljho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:40:28 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:41:24 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:57 secret project update: foundered on the rocks of startup.cc 22:42:09 !? 22:42:15 I will admit, I've never encountered the "switch-goto" idiom before 22:42:16 it's 22:42:18 unique 22:42:58 goto again; 22:43:02 falsdvlkxcvz 22:43:12 that chunk of code is a nightmare 22:43:15 I had to battle it for SDL2 22:43:40 it's not good. 22:43:57 I would rewrite it but I'm not sure I have the energy 22:43:59 PleasingFungus: did you ever see the great melee_attack goto 22:44:03 n 22:44:05 for the stab bonus 22:44:08 wait 22:44:09 aaaarggghhhhh 22:44:10 I should pull that up 22:44:11 hm 22:44:13 do 22:44:27 * Grunt hits gammafunk in a vulnerable spot!!!!!!! 22:44:44 there was a fun bug with that code 22:44:59 ??boots of the assassin[2 22:44:59 boots of the assassin[2/2]: <|amethyst> Really attack while wielding your bread ration? <|amethyst> The helpless kobold fails to defend itself. <|amethyst> You hit the kobold!!!!! 22:45:11 I don't see any problem there 22:45:23 apparently it was considered a bug! 22:45:24 rip 22:45:53 devs FUCKING UP crawl AGAin.... 22:46:01 dang those devs 22:46:10 !send sleep PleasingFungus 22:46:10 Sending PleasingFungus to sleep. 22:46:18 either that or get a better keyboard :| 22:46:30 either? 22:46:39 or 22:47:17 it was a joke. 22:47:29 !send PleasingFungus a sense of humour 22:47:29 Sending a sense of humour to PleasingFungus. 22:47:29 actually, all of my typos are ironic 22:48:03 they're an art project? 22:48:11 they're an art form 22:48:15 mm 22:48:56 maybe they should be cupric, they'd only be a typo away from capric 22:49:02 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:49:38 cupric is a good word 22:50:15 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:51:27 <|amethyst> cupricabra 22:51:34 beware....! 22:51:41 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:02 the cupric cost? 22:52:41 killed by the cupriciousness of PleasingFungus 22:52:58 heh 22:53:46 oh, hm. here's a note in my todo about adding spellcast freqs next to monster spells. "Ogre magi cast Lightning Bolt as often as a choko." 22:53:50 I think I'm gonna delete that TODO. 22:54:41 marking emergency spells in some way might be more reasonable 22:54:45 ah, it was Grunt that fixed it 22:54:48 %git b50788b52cbad3795dbd289ed6c8dc4885fc9a89 22:54:49 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2372-gb50788b: Refactor a bit of stabbing code. 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 11+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b50788b52cba 22:54:55 eh 22:55:18 gammafunk: aaaa 22:55:18 I 22:55:19 what 22:55:22 GGGRRRUUUNNNTTT 22:55:23 goto to a cast switch that ignores the case 22:55:29 *case switch 22:55:48 oh good typo in the commit message 22:55:52 -!- theTower_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:55:57 heh 22:55:59 PleasingFungus: crawlcode: "The goto is completely necessary" 22:56:00 didn't see that until you pointed it out 22:56:02 haha 22:56:33 Grunt: I cherry-pick sometimes for @crawlcode, but that might be a step too far............ 22:56:49 you think 22:56:51 it would 22:56:57 !glasses 22:56:57 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 22:56:57 goto far!?!?!? 22:57:05 ... 22:57:07 !banish Grunt 22:57:07 PleasingFungus casts a spell. Grunt is cast into Cocytus! 22:57:19 that's cold, sequell. 22:57:29 bit of a chilly reception, yes. 22:58:17 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:58:26 update: hahahaha 22:58:43 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3497-g356bc21 (34) 23:00:37 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3498-g0877e93: Show the last Christmas partygoers the door 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0877e93f700a 23:01:14 the hat cost.......... 23:01:20 rip 23:02:30 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:17 hm, I seem to have a list of todos for mon-spell-slots 23:06:06 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:08:07 ? 23:08:18 code cleanup stuff 23:08:21 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:08:23 ah 23:08:27 one is done, the other one is still a reasonable todo 23:08:37 I wrote a lot of mon-spell-slots as we were doing the C++ changeover 23:08:38 so 23:08:47 there are probably still a few bits that need cleaning 23:08:55 oh sure 23:09:06 but, I mean, same with the rest of the entire codebase... 23:09:19 * geekosaur suddenly realizes that last year should have replaced yaktaurs with santaurs. maybe next one can do that with centaurs,,, 23:10:00 -!- SANIC has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:11:55 "an enemy that summons frenzied allies" <- this is a weird note 23:11:59 wonder what I was thinking with that one 23:15:48 hey 23:15:49 that sounds 23:15:56 weirdly familiar 23:15:57 well not actually frenzied 23:15:59 but 23:16:06 summon allies and buff them.......... 23:17:34 well 23:17:39 frenzy is a very specific kind of effect 23:17:44 yeah 23:17:55 not sure I'd call it a buff 23:18:00 clearly 23:18:01 a unique 23:18:03 with Discord. 23:19:08 mm 23:20:06 you realise, of course, 23:20:09 that that would also involve 23:20:11 frenzying 23:20:12 the player. 23:20:27 well, it'd primarily involve that, I assume 23:20:31 which makes it pretty different ;) 23:20:38 also it'd destroy beoghites but they should be used to that 23:20:42 (frenzying the person sitting at the keyboard... clearly they play like Grunt does......) 23:20:44 (poor beoghites) 23:20:45 ! 23:21:03 a *frenzied* patch executioner? 23:21:03 yes. more brutal Beogh nerfs. 23:21:11 * Grunt hits PleasingFungus!!!!!!!!!!!!! x27 23:21:18 Ouch! That really hurt! 23:22:45 http://sprunge.us/EeeJ [PATCH] Improve mutation messages. 23:23:22 since this is flavour I am pretty sure you won't want to accept 100% of that patch, in fact I'm 99.5% sure at least one line would never be accepted 23:23:38 even though it's the best :| 23:23:42 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 23:24:03 is it the dribbling 23:24:41 no, I thought that was pretty clever actually 23:25:05 is it the deepest reaches of pandemoniuum 23:25:22 no, but that was pretty dumb on reflection 23:25:25 * Grunt hails from the deepest reaches of Pandevmonium! 23:25:27 rip 23:25:32 + "You are a jitterbug!"}, 23:25:39 o 23:25:40 ! 23:25:42 I didn't even see that 23:26:06 (oh man, shift-numpad now works correctly in local console/tiles! I'm so happy! another TODO checked off (and hooray for sdl2!)) 23:26:33 !! 23:26:56 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:27:16 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:27:36 !send chequers the Hundredfold Dances 23:27:36 Sending the Hundredfold Dances to chequers. 23:27:45 (presumably one of them is the jitterbug...?) 23:27:59 !send PleasingFungus chequers' Dance 23:28:00 Sending chequers' Dance to PleasingFungus. 23:29:33 * chequers jitters 23:29:53 * Grunt blinks! 23:32:11 i like the idea of making all mut 3 messages end with a ! 23:32:23 but then halfway through I started liking starting mut 1 messages with a ! too 23:32:31 imo 23:32:33 lang=sgrunt 23:32:41 a problem's solution... 23:32:44 so you have this weird "Your Skin toughens!" "your skin gets tougher" "your skin is max tough!" 23:33:04 well, removing them all would work. without this patch there's only a handful in the section 23:33:09 * chequers runs off 23:33:15 (time for beer) 23:33:42 !beer chequers 23:33:42 * Sequell slides a stein of pilsner down the bar to chequers, courtesy of Grunt. 23:34:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3499-gfbbdc41: Simplify. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbbdc41983f4 23:34:58 heh 23:35:13 if you condense code too much 23:35:19 does that make you a simpleton? 23:35:27 imo you need to be careful lest you create 23:35:29 a singularity 23:35:30 <_< 23:35:44 I dunno, |amethyst produces some singularly awesome code sometimes :) 23:38:16 <|amethyst> You mean it really sucks? 23:38:25 It has a certain pull to it. 23:39:23 sometimes his code is like a lump of |coal but mostly it's like a precious |diamond 23:39:50 you're saying it has a certain brilliance to it? 23:40:16 very !agile development 23:40:33 er, development with a lot of !agility 23:40:35 funnily, that writing (something like) that erase_if code was one of the old TODOs I cleaned up just now 23:40:35 brings the full might of the codebase to bear 23:40:55 ok you know what we should !cancel these puns 23:41:10 dang it, 0 out of 2, gammafunk 23:41:11 no need to water them down 23:41:22 they're like ambrosia to me. 23:41:55 what I get for challenging a pun sentinel 23:42:11 I can be pretty fiendish sometimes, yes. 23:43:07 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:43:26 augh, I just spend ten minutes hunting down the world's dumbest bug 23:44:13 ...also, I suspect gozag is really bad for spriggan right now 23:44:19 ? 23:44:28 the food shops aren't currently customized for them 23:44:35 meaning you can get shops filled with meat rations 23:44:43 rip. 23:44:53 well 23:44:53 what's the bug btw 23:44:56 I guess that's not *really* bad 23:45:04 oh, the bug was - I was testing out some code to halve the cost of gozag food shops 23:45:10 and spent ages trying to figure out why it wasn't working 23:45:12 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:45:37 http://pastebin.com/Di9c8ejZ 23:45:50 the bug here is very subtle!!!! 23:46:06 um. 23:46:10 good duplicate function call. 23:46:22 (I do that too often, so I've trained myself to recognise it <_<) 23:46:47 I wasn't getting a warning about 'price' being unused, probably because I added a dprf for it while debugging 23:46:48 <_< 23:48:59 !warn PleasingFungus 23:49:28 anyway idk if this is a reasonable change 23:49:40 maybe?? who knows 23:50:05 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found]