00:01:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:17 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07:56 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:11:27 -!- fenzil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:34 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3338-g714714c (34) 00:16:07 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:30 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:22:16 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:33 -!- RaptorWrex has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:43 -!- Wah has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:38:01 Grunt: perhaps pakellas learndb should mention where to find out what evocation enhancers are 00:38:25 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:38:43 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:45 aha 00:40:14 ??device surge 00:40:14 device surge[1/1]: {Pakellas}' 1*, 3*, and 5* abilities spend 3/6/9 MP to give you a 1/2/3-level evocations enhancer on your next use of an evokable. 00:40:31 !learn edit device_surge s/enhancer/{enhancer}/ 00:40:31 device surge[1/1]: {Pakellas}' 1*, 3*, and 5* abilities spend 3/6/9 MP to give you a 1/2/3-level evocations {enhancer} on your next use of an evokable. 00:40:53 also, is it weird that the evocations god only scales one ability with evocations? 00:41:02 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:41:17 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:41:31 The other abilities do implicitly scale with evocations, since you need to evoke an item to use them. 00:41:49 !kw devteamnp 00:41:49 No keyword 'devteamnp' 00:41:49 !kw devteamn 00:41:50 No keyword 'devteamn' 00:41:56 !nick devteamnp 00:41:57 Mapping devteamnp => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu marvinpa evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk reaverb pleasingfungus 78291 lasty 00:42:05 what does np stand for 00:42:07 (PONNNNG!) 00:42:21 there are a few people in the main entry but not np who prefer not to be pinged 00:42:29 thus, np -> no ping 00:42:35 aha 00:42:48 good thing you just highlighted them all then 00:43:19 it was that guy 00:43:32 ...as in, "don't ping people who don't want to be pinged" 00:46:03 Grunt: I noticed that my lamp of fire didn't seem to work properly when I fired it 00:46:08 it made next to no flame clouds 00:46:12 and no elementals 00:46:16 despite like 12 evo 00:47:13 in the branch or 00:48:15 in trunk 00:48:21 they were stacked 00:48:34 . . . 00:50:12 ; ; ; 00:51:29 !source evoke.cc:1340 00:51:29 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc;hb=HEAD#l1340 00:51:30 no, no 00:51:31 00:51:45 there's the correct reply 00:51:57 this also decides the number of flame trails 00:52:16 &dump 00:52:17 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/gammafunk.txt 00:52:33 just updated that after making that link 00:53:04 hrm 00:53:05 3 lamps of fire (1 inert, 1 charging) 00:53:21 oh the inert one is the one charging? 00:53:24 yes 00:53:25 I'm a bit confused by that message 00:53:32 if it's inert, isn't it always charging? 00:53:35 it was changed about three hours ago 00:53:38 to reflect that 00:53:40 oh ok 00:53:50 thanks to PF 00:54:14 so at 11.1 evo you shouldll always get at least two elementals 00:54:22 s/ll/l/ 00:54:28 er 00:54:30 whatever 00:54:52 oh 00:54:54 actually 00:55:13 for lamp the trails need to go at least four tiles to get an elemental? 00:55:18 this code is extremely confusing 00:55:38 * gammafunk zaps a wand. Grunt's will is overpowered! Grunt is confused. 00:55:43 !tell pleasingfungus your next task: clean up the elemental evoker code 00:55:43 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 00:56:02 !banish gammafunk 00:56:02 Grunt casts a spell. gammafunk is cast into Hell! 00:56:13 what. not threatening at all. 00:57:24 1learn add vestibule 01:09:43 !lm . rune noun=slimy min=xl 01:09:44 30. [2014-08-15 03:14:59] gammafunk the Convoker (L16 HESu of Sif Muna) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 21697. (Slime:6) 01:24:22 !tell PleasingFungus You kill the shard shrike shaped Royal Jelly! 01:24:22 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:41:17 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:09:04 -!- Damara has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:21:27 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3338-g714714c (34) 02:21:41 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:28:19 -!- RaptorWrex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:29 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:38:27 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:32 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:46:48 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:54:10 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:07 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:02:01 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:35 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:10 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:17:00 ??supercharge 03:17:00 johnstein: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:17:00 supercharge[1/1]: {Pakellas}' 6* capstone one-time offer - sets a rod to +10 (18/18), or a wand to 4/3 its normal charge capacity. 03:20:07 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:58 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:25:10 ??Evoker god 03:25:10 I don't have a page labeled Evoker_god in my learndb. 03:25:13 ??pakellas 03:25:13 pakellas[1/1]: Pakellas the Inventive, god of devices; currently in an experimental branch on CBRO. Blocks MP regeneration, hates spellcasting and channeling; instead you get access to MP on kills, three flavours of {device surge}, {quick charge}, and gifts of evokables. Pakellas can also {supercharge} a wand or rod at 6* piety. 03:25:23 !learn s evoker_god see {pakellas} 03:25:24 evoker god[1/1]: see {pakellas} 03:25:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:42:19 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:43:13 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:47:43 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:49:21 -!- SickSadWorld has quit [Client Quit] 03:54:12 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:55:33 -!- Guest78075 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:17:22 -!- SickSadWorld has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:22:44 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:23:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:31:16 -!- Fiveotanaka has quit [Client Quit] 04:31:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:37:23 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:37:59 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 04:39:15 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:41:36 -!- Karagy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:41:53 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:43:33 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:49:49 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:50:46 -!- GlassGo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:12:05 -!- Blazinghand_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:14:02 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:15:02 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:24:36 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:26:00 -!- gareppa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40:28 -!- cognificent has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:44:02 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:48:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:54:55 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:30 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:11:52 -!- cloud4ge has quit [Client Quit] 06:14:15 -!- Jafet has left ##crawl-dev 06:26:39 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:31:33 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:37:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:38:38 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:46:11 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:13 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:01:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:06:01 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:55 -!- t4nk707 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:08:40 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:11:49 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:16:45 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:22 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:27 !seen |amethyst 07:28:27 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:28:27 I last saw |amethyst at Sat Dec 27 22:39:59 2014 UTC (14h 48m 28s ago) saying 'someone should install a splash guard' on ##crawl-dev. 07:34:37 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:42 -!- SickSadWorld has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:42:49 -!- Demagog has quit [Quit: Demagog] 07:44:58 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45:39 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:51:40 -!- Whistling_Bread has joined ##crawl-dev 07:54:02 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:59:17 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:59:31 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:50 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 08:12:59 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3339-g737b7ca: Switch Ru's muting effects to antimagic 10(56 seconds ago, 1 file, 10+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=737b7ca64572 08:15:45 -!- dis- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:51 -!- dis-_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:35:19 !learn del lasty_to_do[2 08:35:20 Deleted lasty to do[2/7]: It seems that the Wulndraste build causes a segfault on going down the stairs. I have the crash log and save but the crash log doesn't say much besides segfault and it happens consistently anyway. It also crashes going up the stairs on all upstairs except D:2->D:1 08:35:20 !learn del lasty_to_do[2 08:35:21 Deleted lasty to do[2/6]: gammafunk: in that backtrace I gave you, the crash occurs when has_connected_path_forward finds e.g. an unexplored upstairs after going down 08:35:24 !learn del lasty_to_do[-1 08:35:25 Deleted lasty to do[5/5]: fix Ru mute against demons 08:35:49 !learn del lasty_to_do[2 08:35:49 Deleted lasty to do[2/4]: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/w5.png 08:38:28 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3340-g177b2c7: Improve Ru retaliation messages. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 10+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=177b2c7a4b3a 08:40:41 -!- luukano has quit [Client Quit] 08:41:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:28 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:45:04 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:35 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:51:24 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58:26 -!- zerkmund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21:08 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:29:59 i just found an unidentified manual just described as "s - a manual 09:30:00 ", that shouldn't happen should it? 09:30:51 aren't they only identified when you pick them up? 09:31:09 i mean the fact that it had no desciption like "a tattered manual" or whatever 09:31:30 oh, hm. don't know 09:32:25 minmay: are you around 09:37:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:11 The build was broken. (master - 177b2c7 #1298 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/45281755 09:37:11 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:39:55 !learn del lasty_to_do[-2 09:39:55 Deleted lasty to do[2/3]: improve spriggan forest end loot 09:44:36 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-3341-gf7b49c0: Improve loot for one stingy Lair end vault (crate) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7b49c0b54fa 09:46:52 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:48:58 yay 09:49:18 I think last time I got that ending, the loop was plain ring mail, plain robe, pile of rocks >.> 09:49:26 *the loot 09:50:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:50:19 I compared it to other ending loot and it was way lower 09:50:36 This should help a little, but it still seems a little worse in tests 09:50:42 Not sure why 09:55:37 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:58:15 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:01:26 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 10:12:57 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:26:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:53 The build was fixed. (master - f7b49c0 #1299 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/45285473 10:26:53 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:30:37 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Quit: bye] 10:43:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:54:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:01 -!- fearitself_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:01:55 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:10:20 -!- ldf_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:14:22 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16:52 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:22:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3341-gf7b49c0 (34) 11:40:49 !messages 11:40:49 No messages for TZer0. 11:43:33 !tell TZer0 Here, have a message. 11:43:34 Grunt: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 11:48:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:55:16 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:19 -!- supfelid has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:00:30 FACE (L9 SpWr) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 509 failed. (D:9) 12:02:43 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:07:30 neil (L1 DESu) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 509 failed. (D:1) 12:10:49 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:14:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:04 <|amethyst> hm, that's kind of tough. The trap is being triggered by the monster in _move_player -> _swap_places -> monster::apply_location_effects, then the player is moving to the monster's old location in _move_player -> move_player_to_grid 12:18:16 <|amethyst> but that old location now has a summoned monster on it 12:18:55 <|amethyst> need to somehow not trigger those location effects until after both player and monster are in place 12:20:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:51 |amethyst: erp 12:20:52 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:22:09 !tell marvinpa The prefixless book (it can happen with manuals or spellbooks) thing is my fault - accidental byproduct of earlier changes. fixing it is on my TODO 12:22:10 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 12:22:59 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: actually, it's not yours 12:23:03 o 12:23:05 really? 12:23:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it could have happened with spider baskets before 12:23:18 oh 12:23:20 cool, I think 12:23:33 <|amethyst> %git :/swap 12:23:34 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-3304-geb98db0: Allow the user to enable/disable overwriting in *_slot options. 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 73+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eb98db09ca31 12:23:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: oh 12:24:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it was yours, just older 12:24:14 <|amethyst> %git ae8f746 12:24:14 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746: Make allies trigger traps when swapping with the player 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae8f746483fe 12:24:21 <|amethyst> I was thinking that was wheals' commit 12:24:32 heh 12:25:21 <|amethyst> testing a fix 12:25:25 ! 12:25:28 fast 12:25:40 Grunt: I have strong design concerns about P. 12:26:11 -!- RaptorWrex has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:03 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 12:27:28 <|amethyst> oh hm 12:27:49 <|amethyst> I think I can fix the common case, but if you swap with a wandering mushroom and there was a toadstool on the trap.... 12:29:20 probably worth fixing the common case anyway 12:29:28 !lg * ikiller~~"shadow trap" 12:29:29 No games for * (ikiller~~'shadow trap'). 12:29:38 !lg * ikiller~~shadow 12:29:39 2578. 4thArraOfDagon the Brawler (L17 TrCj of Cheibriados), slain by a shadow dragon on Depths:4 (minmay_central_circle) on 2014-12-28 15:08:11, with 183078 points after 19501 turns and 2:48:12. 12:29:47 !lg * ikiller~~shadow current trunk s=ikiller 12:29:49 309 games for * (ikiller~~shadow current trunk): 134x a shadow imp, 85x a shadow, 31x a shadow dragon, 20x a shadow wraith, 17x Trollshadow's ghost, 10x a shadow demon, 5x a Shadow Fiend, 3x miscasting Shadow Creatures, AFshadow's ghost, a shadow dragon skeleton, a shadow dragon simulacrum, a shadow dragon zombie (illusionary) 12:30:08 a shadow dragon zombie (illusionary) 12:31:29 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~illusionary x=ktyp,killer,kmod,kaux,ckaux,ikiller,kpath 12:31:29 bad value for range 12:31:31 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~~illusionary x=ktyp,killer,kmod,kaux,ckaux,ikiller,kpath 12:31:33 439. [ktyp=beam;killer=Mara (illusionary);kmod=;kaux=bolt of fire;ckaux=bolt of fire;ikiller=Mara (illusionary);kpath=] Nightdew the Fencer (L17 NaFi of The Shining One), blasted by Mara (illusionary) (bolt of fire) on Shoals:5 (shoals_rune_alternative_decoy) on 2014-12-28 17:00:49, with 131918 points after 32744 turns and 2:10:19. 12:31:48 <|amethyst> !lg * killer~~zombie.*illusionary x=ktyp,killer,kmod,kaux,ckaux,ikiller,kpath 12:31:50 2. [ktyp=mon;killer=a shadow dragon zombie (illusionary);kmod=;kaux=;ckaux=;ikiller=a shadow dragon zombie (illusionary);kpath=] shmeve the Cleaver (L9 MiBe of Trog), slain by a shadow dragon zombie (illusionary) on Abyss:1 on 2014-12-12 18:20:56, with 3327 points after 5410 turns and 0:16:55. 12:32:02 hrm 12:32:04 that is odd 12:32:25 !log * killer~~zombie.*illusionary 12:32:27 2. shmeve, XL9 MiBe, T:5410: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/shmeve/morgue-shmeve-20141212-182056.txt 12:32:39 rakshasa, ya 12:32:54 <|amethyst> (off-topic, I kind of prefer "illusory") 12:33:19 <|amethyst> (but I guess that is more abstract than "illusionary", which is specifically about illusions) 12:33:21 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:52 <|amethyst> oh, hm, I wonder 12:39:02 <|amethyst> oh nice 12:39:09 <|amethyst> you can get a double-trigger too 12:39:14 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:24 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:28 -!- wheals has quit [Changing host] 12:39:28 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:55 PleasingFungus: i have to agree with simmarine that it's a bit weird and/or unobvious that ambrosia can heal DD when other non-divine regen can't 12:40:15 it's not regen 12:40:30 could it be reflavored as regen 12:40:35 why do you want it to be 12:40:40 it's about 4 hp more than a potion of !hw 12:40:42 who cares 12:40:49 regen: gaining hp over time 12:40:51 does it work on vs 12:40:53 ambrosia: 12:41:10 simmarine: the magic part does, the healing part does't 12:41:11 i think my actual point yesterday was probably meant to address dd/vs one of the two 12:41:22 because it's magical healing, not regen 12:41:24 ok then its somehow kinda consistent 12:41:26 it's a potion you drink, to heal 12:41:26 <|amethyst> well, then Makhleb shouldn't give healing-on-kills to DD 12:41:32 <|amethyst> because that is healing that happens over time 12:41:56 is that a xuaxua argument 12:42:06 that seems odd, since each kill gives an immediate healing effect 12:42:11 that argument isn't very good 12:42:13 sorry |amethyst 12:42:19 <|amethyst> and each turn of ambrosia 12:42:22 by that argument there should be a cooloff period after drinking !he 12:42:26 er !hw 12:42:31 here is a question: how does the elixir card interact with dd 12:42:50 pretty sure it does heal yes 12:42:56 ok 12:42:57 done 12:43:04 <|amethyst> Merge DD and VS 12:43:07 aaa 12:43:08 yes 12:43:11 finally dd can be gone 12:43:16 I think "regeneration" is a more specific effect in crawl than "healing over time" 12:43:53 regen boosts your natural healing, which DD lacks 12:44:19 imo elixir card is divine power in card form 12:44:25 <|amethyst> could have ambrosia not give any HP until the end, if it is really a problem for DD to have healing spread out over multiple turns 12:44:28 which is why I don't see a problem with !ambrosia 12:45:33 anyway i sorta retracted my argument from last night because it wasnt thought out at all and its not like i have some lazy excuse for it. and it seems vs ambrosia healing isnt a thing either which is ok 12:45:37 deep vine 12:45:51 i guess it's fine as long as it's clear to the player 12:46:00 obviously add a lua thing to the desc 12:46:26 I'm happy now that I finally understand why people thought that ambrosia wouldn't heal dd 12:46:35 I honestly had never even considered it as any form of regeneration 12:46:51 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47:07 i mean, it is hp over turns, and i think elixir mightve been the only exception otherwise 12:47:36 but my argument was more "dd cant heal with hw" (it was actually vs i shouldve said) 12:47:42 and vs is covered! 12:47:51 <|amethyst> huh? 12:48:08 |amethyst: he confused the weird healing races 12:48:09 <|amethyst> re "dd cant heal with hw" 12:48:12 <|amethyst> oh 12:48:31 i basically picked the wrong species 12:48:34 and looked like a fool 12:48:40 an amateur mistake. anyone familiar with the deep historical mythology of the "vine stalker" would never have made such a mistake, and furthermore, 12:49:25 I will admit that the ?p-over-turns mechanic is weird (and was when ambrosia was food), but that's more a "so nothing else behaves like this except regen which is a completely different mechanic to my mind thing. as such I could argue that !ambrosia should be immediate instead of over time, just for consistent mechanic with other potions, not because of questions about healing vs. DD 12:49:42 the entire point of ambrosia is to have an effect over time. 12:49:42 s/mind thing/mind" thing/ 12:49:51 that is a core part of its design. 12:50:33 anyway, just don't blame me if xuaxua submits a BR "Ambrosia can heal Deep Dwarves." ;) 12:51:01 <|amethyst> how would ambrosia work over a single turn? hw + magic + conf and it doesn't work if you have clarity? 12:51:17 ??ambrosia 12:51:17 potion of ambrosia[1/1]: Gives 3-10 turns of confusion + a hp & mp regen effect (3-5 of each per turn). The regen depends on the confusion; clarity blocks both. New in 0.16, replacing !confusion. 12:51:22 |amethyst, yes 12:51:36 <|amethyst> seems quite a bit better that way 12:51:42 !learn edit potion_of_ambrosia s/regen/over time/ 12:51:42 potion of ambrosia[1/1]: Gives 3-10 turns of confusion + a hp & mp over time effect (3-5 of each per turn). The regen depends on the confusion; clarity blocks both. New in 0.16, replacing !confusion. 12:51:42 but again, I am not arguing for this, only noting that the mechanic is unlike anything else and hence "odd" 12:52:04 oh, theres another "regen" 12:52:05 three points, geekosaur: 12:52:19 that would allow !curing 12:52:20 (1) you could just !cure immediately after the healing + confusion, making it pointless and dumb 12:52:22 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52:24 PleasingFungus: hi...... 12:52:26 !learn edit potion_of_ambrosia s/regen/recovery/ 12:52:26 potion of ambrosia[1/1]: Gives 3-10 turns of confusion + a hp & mp over time effect (3-5 of each per turn). The recovery depends on the confusion; clarity blocks both. New in 0.16, replacing !confusion. 12:52:27 :) 12:53:02 (2) if it were exactly like other existing mechanics, it would have no reason to exist, since those items (!hw, !magic, etc) already exist, and we don't need a generic combo potion 12:53:22 (3) but if you are looking for precedent, elixir card still exists 12:53:24 technically 12:53:24 yes, I know it'd need some work. and again I am not arguing for this, just noting that it's different from anything else and there seems to be a push toward some kind of rough consistency going on 12:53:31 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:33 consistency is a really weird term 12:53:37 in context 12:53:56 "we want this to be inconsistent" is a perfectly acceptable response 12:54:20 consistency isn't the right concept, though 12:55:07 there's no game rule saying that "all forms of healing or mana restoration are instant". that's not a thing that crawl has or should enforce as a "consistent rule" 12:55:20 well, things keep getting removed or reworked to behave more similarly. although perfect consistency is not a goal either because we don't want for example wands and potions to be the same thing in different forms 12:55:32 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: *potions* specifically are in general instant with this one exception, though 12:55:38 ^ 12:55:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: which is why it wasn't as weird IMO when ambrosia was a food 12:55:49 buff potions are effects over time 12:55:51 imo 12:55:58 also ambrosia as a food was even weirder 12:56:14 <|amethyst> that's true 12:56:20 I did say it was a bti strange as a food too; while there were foods that gave effects (and still are, e.g. mutagenic corpses), they're instant 12:56:38 but, as noted, the whole point then and now was to be a bit weird 12:56:39 by they, do you mean royal jellies 12:57:11 those and various corpse types, yes 12:57:28 eh 12:57:41 unrelated: I'm looking at the book name thing, and I am completely uncertain as to how it ever worked in the first place 12:58:53 !blame linley 12:58:53 I pronounce linley... Guilty! 12:59:14 s/how/if 13:01:00 -!- GlassGo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:03:19 <|amethyst> hm 13:05:21 -!- AtomikKrab is now known as bedkrab 13:07:03 <|amethyst> it looks like clinging monsters swapping places don't trigger traps? 13:07:26 ! 13:07:44 <|amethyst> see the calls to check_clinging in monster_swaps_places 13:08:02 wow is clinging still a thing, i never remember after the giant revert war 13:08:22 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08:27 don't be silly, giants can't cling 13:08:46 <|amethyst> (check_clinging does call apply_location_effects, but not if 'stepped' is true, and it is) 13:09:24 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:09:54 |amethyst: was the bug you reproduced the same one that's been around a while? 13:10:04 !crashlog * spider noun~~fedhas 13:10:06 7. Johnny, XL15 DgFE, T:46662 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Johnny/crash-Johnny-20141125-035415.txt 13:10:16 !lm * crash spider noun~~fedhas 13:10:17 7. [2014-11-25 03:54:15] Johnny the Arsonist (L15 DgFE) ASSERT(!monster at(p) || monster at(p)->submerged() || fedhas passthrough(monster at(p)) || mons is player shadow(monster at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 508 failed on turn 46662. (Spider:2) 13:10:21 !lm * crash spider noun~~fedhas 1 13:10:22 1/7. [2014-08-29 10:21:35] Slowtrain the Nimble (L16 DsNe of Makhleb) ASSERT(!monster at(p) || monster at(p)->submerged() || fedhas passthrough(monster at(p)) || mons is player shadow(monster at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 543 failed on turn 41651. (Spider:2) 13:10:27 -!- RaptorWrex has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:10:44 which, iirc, was swapping with a zombie on a zot trap 13:10:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:45 -!- cs_0x6373 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:12:37 <|amethyst> wheals: hm, possibly... wonder why that crashlog doesn't have 'Standing on same square as:' 13:13:30 <|amethyst> oh 13:13:46 <|amethyst> !lm * crash spider noun~~fedhas 1 -log 13:13:47 1. Slowtrain, XL16 DsNe, T:41651 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Slowtrain/crash-Slowtrain-20140829-102135.txt 13:14:06 <|amethyst> Slowtrain's does, but Johnny's doesn't 13:14:21 funny 13:14:23 <|amethyst> I am inclined to suspect Johnny's involves a trapdoor spider rather than a trap 13:14:37 could be 13:14:52 submerging code is such a mess :( (much like submerging design) 13:15:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:15:28 <|amethyst> Slowtrain's crash looks slightly different 13:15:44 <|amethyst> because the player ended up on the same square as their ally, not one of the summons 13:16:25 <|amethyst> oh 13:16:55 <|amethyst> actually that's the same 13:17:06 <|amethyst> because this assert is before the player moves 13:17:11 <|amethyst> so, yes, this fixes slowtrain's crash 13:18:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3342-g23ba729: Don't crash when swapping an ally onto a shadow/spider trap. 10(44 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=23ba72962748 13:18:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3343-g6fc6e44: Don't crash when swapping mushrooms onto toadstools on traps. 10(17 minutes ago, 3 files, 13+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6fc6e44bd6c9 13:18:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3344-gc12ffb3: Add some XXX-rated comments 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c12ffb3a5fc3 13:18:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3345-g11aa475: Brace 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=11aa4752bd73 13:18:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:39 !send |amethyst shadow/spider/zot traps 13:18:40 Sending shadow/spider/zot traps to |amethyst. 13:19:11 !send |amethyst commented monstrosities 13:19:11 Sending commented monstrosities to |amethyst. 13:23:07 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:23:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3346-g875359b: Fix book naming 10(58 seconds ago, 4 files, 37+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=875359b4f046 13:23:31 -!- Belest has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:23:32 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 13:24:05 erp 13:24:13 erp?? 13:24:15 ??erp 13:24:15 I don't have a page labeled erp in my learndb. Did you mean: emp, er, evp. 13:24:20 !send PleasingFungus overpoweredness 13:24:20 Sending overpoweredness to PleasingFungus. 13:24:38 ! 13:24:46 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3347-g99b14d2: Erp 10(19 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=99b14d2fec30 13:24:53 PleasingFungus: leaving in commented-out code, VERY linley 13:24:59 wheals: I fixed it!!! 13:25:06 !send wheals kloppo and glorpo 13:25:06 Sending kloppo and glorpo to wheals. 13:25:10 wyatt erp? :p 13:25:13 !send Grunt loopy 13:25:13 Sending loopy to Grunt. 13:25:21 !send loop PleasingFungus 13:25:21 Sending PleasingFungus to loop. 13:25:34 rude 13:25:43 * Grunt throws PleasingFungus for a loop. 13:26:29 Grunt: I was thinking about P 13:26:32 I have design concerns 13:27:01 Grunt: i have more important concerns 13:27:10 shouldn't P be reserved for Plog 13:27:19 dang. 13:28:21 if you think about the way that spells are balanced versus evokables, there are quite a lot of downsides for spells: you're penalized for heavy armour, you need to train multiple skills (at least spellcasting + the spell school skill, and probably more), you need to expend mp, etc 13:29:18 the way that this is balanced normally is that evokables are so rare, and so limited in use (limited mp, slow xp recharge, limited charges, just plain unreliable...) that you can't use them as a primary problem-solving tool 13:29:28 -!- Roderic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:30:02 P solves both of those problems, by showering you in evokables & giving you pretty abundant recharging capabilities 13:30:34 at which point trading off spells isn't a very big deal, since you have as much destructive power as a primary caster, at no penalty to armour, a much smaller xp cost, etc 13:32:00 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:09 the recharging thing is basically the icing on the cake there, I think; it's the gifting that's the main strength 13:33:19 in conclusion, I have no idea how to balance that 13:33:23 the end 13:34:15 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:23 I'm debating whether I really want the gifting thing to stay as it is, because it doesn't really accomplish what I intended for it to accomplish in the first place. 13:34:27 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:35:09 Basically I wanted this design to help encourage the use of some of the evokables that aren't seen as often or that people just don't use, and currently what you end up with is more of a shower of wands. 13:37:34 I probably also want to step down the amount of charging you get from Quick Charge; it was intended to be more of a "quick, I need another shot or two out of this" sort of thing (especially for rods) more than the fountain of recharging it presently is. 13:41:10 making people use weird evocables more is cool 13:41:23 I'm just worried that this god is too far in the "making evocables a primary killmethod" direction 13:41:44 which I don't think we actually want, unless we add additional skill costs & restrictions 13:43:45 <|amethyst> hmm 13:43:49 <|amethyst> ASSERT(mitm[p].is_valid()) in 'makeitem.cc' at line 2056 failed. (idx: 265, qty: 1, base: 8, sub: 54, spe: 0, col: 1, rnd: 39) 13:43:56 <|amethyst> 8 is OBJ_BOOKS 13:44:02 <|amethyst> 54 is larger than NUM_BOOKS 13:44:46 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:57 I don't think I touched subtype... 13:45:09 <|amethyst> Grunt: btw, this crash looks like a confused monster self-targetting with iron rod: 13:45:10 <|amethyst> Grunt: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/GodzillaBlitz/crash-GodzillaBlitz-20141228-051143.txt 13:45:40 ugh 13:46:17 ugh?? 13:46:17 Player ghouls have claws 1 (see {unarmed combat}), rN+++, rC+, poison and torment immunity. They also rot over time. Eating chunks can cure rot and/or restore HP. Monster ghouls are quite powerful, have a ton of HP, and rot you. 13:47:46 thanks Sequell. 13:47:57 <3 13:48:06 watching a guy talk over his first playthrough of our tutorial(s) 13:48:15 oh? 13:48:39 nothing too exciting so far 13:48:57 things seem to be working, which is nice. the video is titled "I suck at tutorials", though, which suggests he has trouble later 13:49:41 does plog kill him 13:49:45 (bring back plog) 13:49:46 rip Plog 13:49:46 rip 13:49:49 yeah rip 13:51:31 <|amethyst> hmm... this is in items but isn't going through _generate_book_item 13:52:06 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:16 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:19 -!- rockygargoyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:56:25 <|amethyst> hm, got another crash and this time the subtype was fine 13:56:27 <|amethyst> oh 13:56:32 rip? 13:57:20 I changed code that was initializing special; maybe that's a problem...? 13:57:29 <|amethyst> item.rnd actually 13:57:34 <|amethyst> item.rnd == 0 is a problem but 13:57:41 ohhhhh 13:57:44 shit 13:57:47 <|amethyst> it can roll 128 and then be stripped down to 0 13:57:49 yes 13:57:57 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:58:01 just needs to re-roll in that case, I think 13:58:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:58:45 <|amethyst> I was going to try something a little nicer 13:59:55 <|amethyst> well, it still crashes because of out-of-range subtypes 13:59:56 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:01 <|amethyst> I wonder where that is coming from 14:02:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:39 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:39 The build has errored. (master - 11aa475 #1300 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/45296201 14:02:39 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:02:44 rip 14:03:57 o/O 14:04:00 o.O 14:05:10 the description of the whip is really great 14:05:11 the item 14:06:55 well, something's fucked 14:07:02 I just entered the combat tutorial 14:07:12 and instead of a quarterstaff 14:07:14 there was a book 14:07:19 .. 14:07:28 wow. rip. 14:07:37 <|amethyst> okay, I'm going to try valgrind then 14:07:40 ahaha I know what it is 14:07:42 I know it 14:07:43 ? 14:07:50 PPPFFF 14:07:53 ??epic_bugs[xom 14:07:55 epic_bugs[1/22]: if (you.religion = GOD_XOM) 14:08:00 <|amethyst> oh yes 14:08:04 <|amethyst> haha 14:08:06 if (item.base_type = OBJ_BOOKS) 14:08:06 dang 14:08:09 I 14:08:11 hate 14:08:12 c 14:08:18 ??goodsequell[coc 14:08:19 goodsequell[10/12]: ??C++ cocytus[1/1]: The frozen Hell. 14:08:46 fixing 14:09:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: fixing the 128 thing while you're at it? 14:09:28 ya 14:09:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what I was going to do there is: 14:09:54 <|amethyst> if (is book) rnd = 1 + random2(127) then maybe | 128 14:10:00 <|amethyst> else rnd = 1 + random2(255) 14:10:03 <|amethyst> so no rerolling 14:10:26 I was thinking about doing something like that but 14:10:34 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3348-g1a03913: Don't turn all items into books 10(41 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a03913e5364 14:10:39 I'd prefer to keep the basic logic separate 14:11:01 I don't really like this hack and I'd prefer to keep it in its own separate shame zone 14:11:05 !learn add epic_bugs if (item.base_type = OBJ_BOOKS) 14:11:05 epic bugs[23/23]: if (item.base_type = OBJ_BOOKS) 14:11:06 and the cost of a re-roll isn't exactly high 14:11:16 Grunt: is it really epic if it never made it onto a server.... 14:11:21 sure it is! 14:11:22 god, I hope cpo didn't rebuild 14:13:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I guess it's not really a problem, but 128 is half as likely as 129 14:13:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because you can get 129 by rolling 1 or 129, but you can only get 128 by rolling 128 14:13:51 no you can't 14:14:02 oh 14:14:05 nvm 14:14:22 wait no yeah you can't get 128 period 14:14:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3349-gad2e694: Fix a sign warning. 10(39 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad2e6940c1e4 14:14:32 wait 14:14:32 fuck 14:14:35 no, okay, you're right 14:14:52 * PleasingFungus shrugs. 14:15:08 PleasingFungus: v0v? 14:15:12 this is why we need cpo to rebuild on every push 14:15:17 * Grunt pushes wheals. 14:15:30 <|amethyst> 128 works though AFAICT so no big deal 14:16:06 also imo 0x80 14:18:33 -!- bedkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:20:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:20:11 <|amethyst> not wheals not (uint8_t)1<<(8-1) ? 14:20:19 <|amethyst> s/not wheals/wheals:/ 14:20:22 mm, even better 14:20:32 /nick notwhealsie 14:20:35 "if (item.base_type = OBJ_BOOKS)" 14:20:38 lmao 14:20:47 sounds exactly like the xom bug 14:20:51 ya 14:20:51 yes! 14:21:07 <|amethyst> there is a warning flag to complain about those 14:21:30 <|amethyst> but then we'd have to add extra parentheses everywhere we actually intended the assignment 14:21:36 The equality operator is a mimic!!! 14:21:37 -!- rockygargoyle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:22:21 <|amethyst> otoh maybe we already do 14:22:55 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:43 <|amethyst> oh... 14:23:44 wonder if there's a way to enable it if the assignment is to a constant 14:23:58 since there it's rather unlikely that you'd mean = 14:24:13 s/constant/constexpr perhaps 14:24:15 <|amethyst> in gcc that's just -Wparentheses :( 14:24:35 |amethyst: I am fine with adding extra parentheses, since that discourages a shameful idiom 14:24:42 afaik assignment *to* a constant should be an error 14:24:54 <|amethyst> it requires also putting lots of parentheses in boolean expressions 14:25:28 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:26:56 " Rather than storm the room and get swarmed by monsters, you can also step back and wait (with [!]) for them to come to you! " 14:27:00 lang = grunt reasons imo 14:27:40 <|amethyst> ugh 14:27:42 geekosaur: i'd think of that as "assignment of a constant" 14:27:52 but i guess the standards might not 14:28:00 Dichotomy (L15 MfNe) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 509 failed. (D:13) 14:28:14 <|amethyst> wheals: I'd say "to" for const = foo and "from" for foo = const 14:28:27 <|amethyst> since the left hand side is the destination 14:28:29 fair 14:29:06 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god] * 0.16-a0-3365-gbe77b1f: Merge branch 'master' into evoker-god 10(14 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be77b1f956ed 14:29:06 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god] * 0.16-a0-3366-g531ea99: Rework Pakellas gifting. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=531ea9999717 14:29:06 03Grunt02 07[evoker-god] * 0.16-a0-3367-g7c1b4ff: Step down Quick Charge effectiveness. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c1b4ff10092 14:29:09 OTOH, people (i think?) say "assign x to 2" 14:29:16 <|amethyst> wheals: to me that means 2 = x 14:29:23 it's ambiguous 14:29:28 * Grunt assigns /dev/null to wheals. 14:29:41 <|amethyst> I say "set x to 2" there usually 14:29:46 or maybe they would only say "set x to 2" 14:29:47 yeah 14:29:54 PleasingFungus: I'm going to give P another spin soonish and see if those changes help any 14:30:01 <|amethyst> stupid English 14:30:07 <|amethyst> I *think* we have parentheses around assignment everywhere -Wparentheses cares... 14:30:28 imo find out 14:30:30 <_< 14:30:33 <|amethyst> it would be really nice if you could turn on part of -Wparentheses 14:31:02 what does it do? 14:31:43 <|amethyst> warns on: assignment where a boolean is expected, x all those are good and I would be happy to have them 14:31:56 <|amethyst> but it also warns on a && b || c 14:32:02 <|amethyst> and we have rather a lot of those 14:33:50 <|amethyst> -Wparentheses -Wno-disjunctive-normal-form 14:35:47 <|amethyst> we do have a few ambiguous elses that should be fixed 14:35:56 fwiw clang lacks that last option 14:36:02 <|amethyst> geekosaur: gcc does to 14:36:04 <|amethyst> o 14:36:16 <|amethyst> geekosaur: I want that last option to exist, so it won't warn about &&-in-|| 14:36:45 <|amethyst> because otherwise I am happy with the -Wparentheses warnings 14:36:46 * geekosaur building locally with -Wparentheses for grins and giggles 14:36:50 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 14:36:51 <|amethyst> but that would be a lot of extra ()s 14:37:22 <|amethyst> okay, now I have a list of things that aren't &&-in-|| 14:39:41 hahaha, tutorial guy was slain by the ooze 14:39:48 <|amethyst> there's a warning about this: 14:39:52 <|amethyst> ASSERT(duration[DUR_MESMERISED] > 0 == !beholders.empty()); 14:39:53 Experimental (evoker-god) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3367-g7c1b4ff 14:39:56 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:00 ooze (15J) | Speed: 8 | HD: 3 | Health: 9-24 | AC/EV: 1/3 | Damage: 5 | Flags: sense invisible | Res: 06magic(24), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx | XP: 2. 14:40:00 %0.9?ooze 14:40:02 ooze (15J) | Spd: 8 | HD: 3 | HP: 10-23 | AC/EV: 1/3 | Dam: 5 | see invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 08blind, 12drown | XP: 2 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 14:40:02