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(guessing that the list predated some of the other intermediate summoning changes) 03:00:12 <|amethyst> no, it's still half XP 03:00:16 <|amethyst> full piety 03:00:27 oh ok. that's what I missed 03:01:00 %git :/[Ff]ull [Pp]iety 03:01:02 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1718-geea628e: Buff Igni piety once more 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eea628e56841 03:01:50 %git 1cf97f0 03:01:50 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2392-g1cf97f0: Simplify piety for follower kills 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 200+ 420-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cf97f0674ea 03:02:13 git log --oneline was faster (cept when I'm on my phone) 03:02:21 ugh i give up i have no clue :C 03:03:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:05:11 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/0001-Lacertilians.patch 03:05:14 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:05:28 in case anybody wants to examine my terrible coding 03:10:41 <|amethyst> hm, not sure about the piety thing, but you can move the MUT_FORLORN check from actor::faith to player::faith 03:11:16 why is actor::faith even a thing 03:11:26 how could faith be relevant for a non-player? 03:11:42 it makes orc priests smite more 03:11:48 really 03:12:12 i lied 03:12:24 <|amethyst> but it could! 03:13:46 <|amethyst> hm... maybe rather than all these if (you.species != SP_LACERTILIAN) _set_penance(...) 03:14:14 <|amethyst> I would add a boolean parameter to _set_penance indicating whether the penance is for excommunication 03:14:23 <|amethyst> and do the check once inside that function 03:14:34 ah, okay 03:15:03 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:17:54 New branch created: charms-reform (5 commits) 03:17:54 03doy02 07[charms-reform] * 0.16-a0-3145-g157c69d: split mp_max_adj into _temp and _perm, like hp 10(5 hours ago, 6 files, 22+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=157c69d2ff1e 03:17:54 03doy02 07[charms-reform] * 0.16-a0-3146-g72ddc4b: display charms-reduced mp 10(4 hours ago, 3 files, 22+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=72ddc4be3819 03:17:54 03doy02 07[charms-reform] * 0.16-a0-3147-g58becde: mark some spells as casting from max mp 10(3 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=58becde52a40 03:17:54 03doy02 07[charms-reform] * 0.16-a0-3148-g8a1dcef: cast from max mp for spells marked as such 10(3 hours ago, 3 files, 33+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a1dcefc44bd 03:17:54 03doy02 07[charms-reform] * 0.16-a0-3149-g4bf341e: replace deflection ablation with a manual ability 10(83 minutes ago, 9 files, 30+ 47-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bf341e76773 03:18:22 this owns 03:20:59 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:21:04 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23:02 Next page of ground items don't revert when moved 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9330 by tomash667 03:26:13 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:27:46 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:28:05 03doy02 07[charms-reform] * 0.16-a0-3150-g6781b3d: restore max mp for rmsl when dmsl is cast 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6781b3df2da7 03:28:12 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: hm, maybe the faith message in _equip_jewellery_effect could be different (the same is true for demigods, and ****** ruites get no message at all) 03:29:08 yeah, i looked at that and decided not to mess with it 03:29:17 since really it should get changed in master for dg 03:29:52 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:32:36 -!- XL28DgWn has joined ##crawl-dev 03:32:44 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:32:55 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/0002-Lacertilians.patch 03:33:03 faith still doesn't work but everything does 03:33:04 * ontoclasm shrug 03:33:07 ah well 03:36:07 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:38:38 -!- Guest47408 is now known as bhaak 03:39:08 -!- bhaak is now known as Guest75506 03:39:37 -!- Guest75506 is now known as bhaak` 03:40:46 -!- bhaak` is now known as bhaak_ 03:40:54 -!- bhaak_ is now known as bhaak` 03:41:08 -!- bhaak` is now known as bhaak_ 03:43:42 -!- bhaak_ is now known as bhaak 03:45:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3152-ge34d831: Improve "Faith equip messages. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e34d8311a8d0 03:45:59 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: this is C++, not C, you're allowed to write "true" and "false" :) 03:48:39 -!- WhiteFatalis|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 03:49:14 well faith is an int 03:49:24 i guess i still can? 03:49:36 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:59 <|amethyst> I mean in the parameter to _set_penance 03:51:28 oh right 03:52:18 <|amethyst> anyway, I'm off for the night. I'll try to remember to look at the faith thing tomorrow 03:52:19 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:52:24 <|amethyst> push that to a branch :) 03:52:39 haha, you used self-confidence 03:52:54 i was writing the same patch and i wrote "You feel a surge of self-satisfaction" 03:53:16 <|amethyst> That might be better 03:53:30 <|amethyst> feel free to change the messages, I kind of half-assed them :) 03:53:34 either way it's pretty funny 03:53:36 <|amethyst> night 03:53:43 night 03:55:54 time for a new experimental :) 03:56:45 i'll push it and maybe somebody can figure out how the heck faith works 03:58:13 worth setting up the experimental now? (which can be rebuilt via ??rebuild magic) 03:58:34 if you'd like, that'd be cool 03:58:37 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:58:41 (but i haven't even pushed the branch yet) 03:59:07 -!- XL28DgWn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:59:14 if you tell me the name of the branch, I can get things set up now when I have the time. probably lacertillians ? 03:59:37 my branch is called faithful 03:59:42 in case i change the name 04:00:08 they're lizards because ??? 04:00:29 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:03:03 http://www.figurerealm.com/userimages/customs/42500/42223-2.jpg 04:03:56 ahyep 04:04:36 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:36 The build passed. 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Use your powers wisely. 04:12:50 honestly, ctele as a separate spell is pretty awkward as a design in general, so 04:15:20 i kind of feel like removing semi-controlled blink (passage should in theory fill that niche reasonably well) and adding a separate "controlled teleport" spell to parallel controlled blink would work better 04:15:31 but that's a pretty big change 04:15:41 and should probably be a separate thing 04:15:45 is there a lag between pushing a new branch and it being available to pull? 04:15:55 there shouldn't be 04:17:35 rebuilding trunk pulled the info 04:17:56 I use git a lot these days but there's some things that I still get confused on. basic things I think. 04:18:32 what are you trying to do? 04:19:05 just build faithful 04:19:34 via the rebuild tool. but it failed since I hadn't pulled it into the repo yet. I thought the rebuild tool would have done it for me 04:20:06 yeah you probably have to do git checkout -b faithful origin/faithful 04:20:35 probably. in the past I've never built an experimental right after it got pushed 04:20:44 mm 04:21:02 I probably could have just done a git pull origin master (on master) and I bet that would have been enough 04:21:13 mm 04:21:24 idk git confuses me too xD 04:25:33 I need to set up a Backtrackicus branch too. but I was warned that building 64 bit would be bad and I think that's what my default is set to and I'm probably too dumb (and too cowardly) to modify it. going 'out of process' sounds like a quick way to set the server on fire 04:25:48 hah 04:26:25 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:26:54 I'm really curious on how the no-wrath thing will play out 04:27:04 that sounds pretty radical 04:27:20 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3152-ge34d831 (34) 04:27:42 ok. faithful is building 04:28:19 Webtiles server failed to restart. 04:29:08 oops! 04:31:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:10 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:32 -!- Tedronai is now known as Guest31513 04:32:40 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:56 -!- Guest31513 has quit [Client Quit] 04:39:02 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:39:05 Experimental (faithful) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3153-gb9b0e1b 04:40:07 neat 04:40:23 Webtiles server restarted. 04:41:20 seems to work! 04:41:55 ??lacertillian 04:41:57 ??faithful 04:42:57 I don't have a page labeled lacertillian in my learndb. 04:42:58 faithful ~ faith ~ amulet of faith[1/1]: Piety increases one third faster. Yes, this means you get more gifts. Good gods save you more frequently. Xom has more dynamic piety and acts more often. Removing the amulet reduces your piety (-1/3). 04:44:31 !learn add lacertilian Experimental race with perma-faith and no wrath for changing gods. Playable on CBRO! 04:44:31 lacertilian[1/1]: Experimental race with perma-faith and no wrath for changing gods. Playable on CBRO! 04:45:20 Ohh, interesting 04:45:41 except they don't work correctly yet :C 04:45:54 for reasons i can't discern the faith doesn't actually work 04:59:07 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:13:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:15 I vaguely remember amulet stuff being spread out over as much of the crawl code as possible, it may have something to do with that 05:16:44 huh 05:16:56 that sounds kind of neat 05:17:23 gotta grab those 6* gifts 05:17:32 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:32 The build passed. 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11:37:24 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:58 -!- HoloIRCUser1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:38:58 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:39:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:40:44 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:50:37 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:24 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:56:04 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:57:52 -!- pintc has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:00:17 -!- HoloIRCUser4 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:01:37 gammafunk: well... it makes the history a bit annoying, but it's ok 12:04:10 -!- Deviljho is now known as Alatreon|Jho 12:04:47 edlothiol: well the merge was pretty easy; it'd still be possible to do a rebase onto master at the end if you'd prefer that 12:06:38 %git webtiles-changes 12:06:39 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-3174-g53d53ae: Change uid and gid of WebTiles server pid file only when appropriate 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=53d53aea8a2c 12:06:52 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:09:07 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:09:10 yeah 12:13:21 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:00 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:16:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:23:40 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:27:04 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:29:19 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34:30 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 12:34:41 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:34:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:47 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:42:11 %git faithful 12:42:11 07ontoclasm02 * 0.16-a0-3154-g62f4276: Lacertilian tiles & equip messages 10(7 hours ago, 5 files, 9+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=62f4276c3d15 12:42:15 :| 12:43:35 ? 12:43:53 well I guess 12:43:56 %git faithful~1 12:43:56 07ontoclasm02 * 0.16-a0-3153-gb9b0e1b: Lacertilians 10(10 hours ago, 17 files, 167+ 38-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9b0e1bd05e5 12:44:01 is what I was :| about 12:44:28 :| is a pretty good lizardman face 12:44:30 imo 12:44:43 please don't tell me you think this species is a good idea 12:44:45 plz 12:45:02 if you're talking to me, I haven't looked at it. 12:45:06 not really 12:45:12 i just wanted to see if i could do it 12:45:25 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:45:59 * gammafunk flies off into an incoherent rage, shouting "ARISTS?! ARTISTS?!?!" 12:46:27 that's clearly code, gammafunk. 12:46:49 fr: player title "Codist" 12:46:59 Codeist? 12:47:19 Codist would be a fine purveyor of Cod 12:47:57 not that I have anything against Cod, they're perfectly good Fish 12:47:57 somebody implemented plutonians so i think i am well within the margins 12:48:30 ontoclasm: it's not official until johnstein hosts it on dbro 12:48:46 i thought plutonians were 12:48:53 !lg * pl-- 12:48:54 219. SharpStick the Ruinous (L5 PlWz), slain by a gnoll (a +0,+0 flail) on D:3 on 2014-12-08 03:19:36, with 176 points after 2993 turns and 0:13:06. 12:49:09 oh right, were those actually on cbro 12:49:22 ??cbro 12:49:22 cbro[1/3]: Server in Georgia, US: crawl.beRotato.org -- ssh port 22, username crawler, keys at http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys (no password access). In case of DNS problems, use crawl.boylecraft.net. Webtiles at: http://crawl.beRotato.org. Use glyph/sigil ^ for bots 12:49:46 yea. plutonians were a very similar situation 12:49:57 I think pubby's weird lizard species is actually still playable on cszo 12:50:16 cherufes are playable 12:50:26 rip pubby 12:50:27 iron troll (10T) | Spd: 7 | HD: 16 | HP: 72-106 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 35, 2509(claw), 2509(claw) | 10doors, regen | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 775 | Sz: Big | Int: normal. 12:50:27 %??iron_troll 12:50:32 rip smithgod 12:50:33 pubby lives! 12:50:40 he just doesn't do crawl dev 12:50:49 well beyond telling me to implement really weird ideas 12:51:00 and then he makes a patch for them himself anyways 12:51:26 <|amethyst> I need to update CSZO experimental branches 12:51:59 I was considering removing some 12:52:14 smithgod direly needs a rebase 12:52:18 <|amethyst> add charms-reform 12:52:25 or another word starting with re 12:53:06 <|amethyst> someone else asked me about adding some branch 12:53:09 <|amethyst> I forget now 12:53:15 I looked over charms-reform a bit, I guess it's a reasonable enough idea 12:53:16 hmm. 12:53:27 who was that who wanted a god branch . . . :D 12:53:31 my feeling is that for many chars a reduction in max mp will be meaningless 12:54:05 Lasty: sorry, |amethyst was saying that god branch cutoff was last night 12:54:14 new server policy, no more god branches 12:54:22 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/$/; Chei -> dobrazupa; autobuild glyphs+monster; clean up explbr, add charms-reform faithful and ??/ 12:54:22 nfm[1/3]: short-term server TODO: dgl-config setting for webtiles server branch; update stable and trunk scripts to match; switch to webtiles-changes; Chei -> dobrazupa; autobuild glyphs+monster; clean up explbr, add charms-reform faithful and ?? 12:54:46 gammafunk: Makes charms better for melee-heavy types, worse for conjurers. . . I like what Siegurt has to say about redoing charms to make them more combat-specific 12:54:46 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[2] s/Chei.*monster; // 12:54:47 nfm[2/3]: server TODO: save-fixing guide; CAO tutorial mode; finish inventory of server-side software; finish and send infrastructure team proposal to CRD; take list of stable and exp. branches from a file; script to deploy new version; inotify for new inprogress dirs too; upload/copy rcfile 12:54:54 gammafunk: no prob, I'll push it to trunk 12:55:02 curses! 12:55:16 |amethyst: backtrackticus? 12:55:24 <|amethyst> ah, right 12:55:49 can it get renamed first? or I guess |amethyst can use wulndraste as the label 12:55:50 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/\?\?/no_backtracking_god/ 12:55:50 nfm[1/3]: short-term server TODO: dgl-config setting for webtiles server branch; update stable and trunk scripts to match; switch to webtiles-changes; Chei -> dobrazupa; autobuild glyphs+monster; clean up explbr, add charms-reform faithful and no_backtracking_god 12:56:14 gammafunk: isn't no_backtracking_god more helpful of a label? 12:56:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:56:20 maybe the branch name is actually good, come to think of it 12:56:24 hi 12:56:33 wulndraste :| 12:56:37 On my screen I said that 5 seconds earlier :p 12:56:43 <|amethyst> backtrackticus would be a fine branch name :P 12:57:10 hehe 12:57:12 <|amethyst> dfs_god 12:57:23 yeah there is the branch name length 12:57:42 but backtrackticus kind of sounds like the god encourages backtracking 12:57:52 <|amethyst> abacktrackticus 12:58:03 nobacktrackticus 12:58:17 nobacksies 12:58:20 lasticus 12:58:45 !hs Lasty 12:58:45 240. Lasty the Slayer (L27 VSAs of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-04-13 18:41:13, with 15388117 points after 101479 turns and 10:58:46. 12:58:51 deplorable 12:59:00 what does Lasty know about not backtracking I ask you 12:59:15 <|amethyst> never_gonna_take_a_stair_never_gonna_run_around_and_desert_you 12:59:30 rickrolls the player upon worship 12:59:36 gammafunk: you forgot the title: lasticus the godfather 12:59:38 <|amethyst> Wrick(james)roll 13:00:12 We still don't have U. Unbacktrackticus 13:00:59 Unidirectionalia 13:02:19 ??pain 13:02:19 pain[1/3]: L1 necro spell, exclusive to the Book of Necromancy. Inflicts 1hp non-fatal damage on the caster. Does 1d(4 + pow/5) damage, with a limit of 25 power, and bypasses AC - but checks MR and only affects monsters without life protection, or players without torment immunity. 13:03:00 -!- Alatreon|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:06:43 -!- HoloIRCUser2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:18:51 PleasingFungus: Cigo feedback: with 21 int and 10 necromancy, it feels pretty weak. +2-3 AC and SH is moderately sustainable in corpse-heavy branches. 13:19:26 yeah I think it's too weak in most circumstances and too strong in zigs, right now 13:19:28 which is kind of funny 13:19:40 I'm planning to rebalance it in the next week or so 13:21:33 -!- HoloIRCUser1 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:22:28 -!- HoloIRCUser5 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:22:32 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:23:48 ??eye of devastation 13:23:48 eye of devastation[1/1]: A giant eye that shoots irresistible 3d20 bolts of energy. But it's inaccurate and slow. They also disintegrate walls like digging, causing a 'grinding sound'. Fun to use to open slime 6 vaults. 13:23:54 hrm 13:26:20 hey, another way to open slime 6 when you sacrifice Evo and Earth Magic and etc. 13:26:50 ??trunk 13:26:50 trunk[1/3]: The latest development code of Stone Soup is often referred to as trunk. Trunk tile+command-line windows binaries are available from http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ 13:33:17 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:34:07 ??intoxication 13:34:07 alistair's intoxication[1/1]: L4 Transmutation-Poison spell. Has a (40 + power/3)% (max 73%) chance of confusing each natural, non-poison resistant monster in line of sight with greater than animal intelligence. Has a (60 - power/3)% chance of affecting you, even with rPois, if you do not have a source of clarity. Also drains 1-3 points of intelligence 5% of the time. 13:34:37 why on earth does it only work on intelligent creatures 13:34:46 the player doesn't even know which ones those are..... 13:35:17 |amethyst: that was me asking for a branch (salamanders) and I no longer think it's a good idea anyway :) 13:36:29 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:36:31 PleasingFungus: you can reveal a mind-shattering truth to a fire vortex 13:36:43 rip salamanders 13:36:45 dang 13:36:47 dang. 13:36:53 -!- HoloIRCUser has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:36:57 that was @ ontoclasm but also dang re salamanders 13:37:02 not distinct enough, or...? 13:37:15 Their current combination of weirdness doesn't work very well. 13:37:28 I think I might bring back their AF_FIRE and just have them be blanket slow 2 <_< 13:37:46 Mennas (11A) | Spd: 15 | HD: 19 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 15/28 | Dam: 30, 20 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 4552 | Sp: mass confusion, silence, minor healing (2d9) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:37:46 %??mennas 13:38:07 !send gammafunk unspeakable horrors 13:38:08 Sending unspeakable horrors to gammafunk. 13:40:35 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:41:00 need a T with decent mr 13:41:02 iron troll (10T) | Spd: 7 | HD: 16 | HP: 72-106 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 35, 2509(claw), 2509(claw) | 10doors, regen | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 775 | Sz: Big | Int: normal. 13:41:02 %??iron_troll 13:41:08 deep troll (08T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 43-67 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 27, 2009(claw), 2009(claw) | 10doors, see invisible, regen | Res: 06magic(40), 08blind | XP: 720 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 13:41:08 %??deep_troll 13:41:10 ? 13:41:14 deep troll earth mage (06T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 36-59 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 27, 2009(claw), 2009(claw) | 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40), 08blind | XP: 902 | Sp: rapid deconstruction, dig | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 13:41:14 %??deep_troll_earth_mage 13:41:22 Grunt: moon troll! 13:41:25 ! 13:41:29 it's already using the grunt tile 13:41:43 ! ! ! 13:41:46 Grunt: that tile looks basically like the deep troll tile when the tornado winds are on it 13:41:49 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:41:51 I might need to tweak the tile 13:42:45 I guess you can't set monsters speed currently in des 13:42:49 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42:50 I might need to change that as well 13:43:00 er 13:43:01 why not 13:43:02 just 13:43:02 death yak (08Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-92 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 30 | Res: 06magic(100) | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 872 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 13:43:02 %??death_yak 13:43:06 implement them as a monster type. 13:43:13 I guess but 13:43:18 we have Hellbinder and Cloud Mage already 13:43:20 it's a vault-only monster 13:43:24 I suppose you're right 13:43:33 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:44:00 added bonus of making a milestone possible 13:44:04 or is it just a note? 13:44:26 !lm * milestone~~cloud_mage 13:44:34 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:36 4569. [2014-12-14 13:13:02] MrPlanck the Warrior (L23 GhWn of Makhleb) entered The Chambers of Cikhafre the Cloud Mage on turn 54724. (Depths:4) 13:44:56 oh right it's the kill record 13:45:28 also I noticed this but where tornado can move you through walls 13:45:46 s/but/bug/ 13:46:37 <|amethyst> many have noticed that bug, but none have fixed it 13:48:05 deep 13:48:16 I fixed it at one point 13:48:16 but 13:48:19 the fix was reverted? 13:48:49 %git 6f47341 13:48:49 07Grunt02 * 0.11-a0-3129-g6f47341: Prevent Tornado from moving monsters through solid features. 10(2 years, 4 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f473416a0b6 13:49:00 %git 837be7a 13:49:00 07kilobyte02 * 0.12-a0-1239-g837be7a: Revert "Prevent Tornado from moving monsters through solid features." 10(2 years ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=837be7a97a2b 13:49:00 wow, 0.11 13:49:28 well this was through stone 13:50:57 I'd assume stone is airtight 13:50:59 but I can look at that 13:51:01 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:52:10 huh 13:52:12 iron troll (10T) | Spd: 7 | HD: 16 | HP: 72-106 | AC/EV: 20/4 | Dam: 35, 2509(claw), 2509(claw) | 10doors, regen | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 775 | Sz: Big | Int: normal. 13:52:12 %??iron_troll 13:52:19 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:23 I'd always assumed those were rpois 13:52:28 iron dragon (10D) | Spd: 8 | HD: 18 | HP: 105-128 | AC/EV: 20/6 | Dam: 25, 2509(claw), 2507(trample) | see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown | XP: 1717 | Sp: metal splinters (3d30) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 13:52:28 %??iron_dragon 13:52:42 the probably should be rpois I guess 13:53:12 unknown monster: "molten_gargoyl" 13:53:12 %??molten_gargoyl 13:53:13 molten gargoyle (059) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 24-41 | AC/EV: 14/7 | Dam: 2004(fire:7-13) | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 430 | Sp: b.magma (3d15) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:53:13 %??molten_gargoyle 13:54:17 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:54:33 war gargoyle (109) | Spd: 14 | HD: 13 | HP: 40-64 | AC/EV: 22/4 | Dam: 30 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(100), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1453 | Sp: metal splinters (3d27) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:54:33 %??war gargoyle 13:54:45 gargoyle (159) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-33 | AC/EV: 18/6 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 415 | Sp: stone arrow (3d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:54:45 %??gargoyle 13:55:00 resists, completely coherent 13:55:50 comment in mon-data.h above snorg: // Snorg can go berserk. 13:55:57 aren't war gargoyles made out of metal 13:56:03 almost as if snorg himself wrote it 13:57:22 iron golem (108) | Spd: 7 | HD: 15 | HP: 119-151 | AC/EV: 15/3 | Dam: 35 | 11non-living, 10doors | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 805 | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 13:57:22 %??iron golem 13:57:34 war gargoyles aren't made of iron, evidently 13:58:10 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:48 oh 13:58:53 maybe they're made out of aluminum then 13:58:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:25 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:59:27 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 13:59:49 gelid demonspawn (026) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 43-67 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 20 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold++ | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 709 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:59:49 %??gelid demonspawn 14:00:40 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:01:25 random question 14:01:46 let's assume an ancient lich casts shadow creatures and gets another ancient lich that casts shadow creatures, who commences to do so 14:01:49 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:04 ??blue death 14:02:05 blue death[1/1]: Churchmouse the Blademaster (L27 HaWn), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf sorcerer (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))))) in Zig:21 on 2011-08-02, with 649571 points after 98719 turns and 13:08:27. 14:02:06 what about it? 14:02:07 if the original ancient lich was killed, would all the summons disappear or only those of the first ancient death 14:02:13 *lich 14:02:17 all of them 14:02:24 rip chain summoning 14:02:26 <|amethyst> wouldn't it be a cascade? 14:02:34 <|amethyst> first its children, then theirs, etc? 14:02:45 probably 14:02:54 <|amethyst> or does mindex ordering conspire to make that usually happen before they get a turn? 14:03:11 <|amethyst> sounds like we need science 14:03:20 the important question is will this happen often with af_shadow_creatures 14:06:58 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:15 -!- puddlestomp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:17:23 ??malign offering 14:17:23 malign offering[1/1]: A spell cast by elf priests which hurts you and heals their allies. Resisted by rN. 14:18:04 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:52 -!- Fluttershaft has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 14:19:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:20:04 the solution is clear 14:20:23 prevent chain summoning 14:20:51 what's the problem, though 14:22:02 obviously preventing chain summoning should be another benefit to warding 14:22:22 actually I don't know what the problem is either :v 14:23:13 It breeds explosively. 14:23:14 theTower: make warding twice as effective for each link in the chain 14:24:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:27:17 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:27:52 03Grunt02 07[salamander] * 0.16-a0-3154-gcfc50ef: Merge branch 'master' into salamander 10(48 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfc50efcbb51 14:27:52 03Grunt02 07[salamander] * 0.16-a0-3155-g5b51f6a: Make salamanders blanket Slow 2. 10(33 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b51f6a6fa5f 14:27:52 03Grunt02 07[salamander] * 0.16-a0-3156-gcb21782: Support for attack flavours in forms. 10(9 minutes ago, 7 files, 57+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb217825fb7c 14:27:52 03Grunt02 07[salamander] * 0.16-a0-3157-g5f6838d: Give player salamanders AF_FIRE. 10(2 minutes ago, 3 files, 25+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f6838ddcebf 14:28:30 <|amethyst> !learn edit nfm[1] s/and no_/salamander no_/ 14:28:31 nfm[1/3]: short-term server TODO: dgl-config setting for webtiles server branch; update stable and trunk scripts to match; switch to webtiles-changes; Chei -> dobrazupa; autobuild glyphs+monster; clean up explbr, add charms-reform faithful salamander no_backtracking_god 14:29:12 !send |amethyst free time 14:29:12 Sending free time to |amethyst. 14:29:21 mr immune is really just "stupid high", right 14:29:37 <|amethyst> fortunately adding four doesn't really take any more time than adding one 14:29:37 I wonder if you could eventually overcome it that way 14:29:39 There is special casing in the code for the stupidly high value of MR_IMMUNE. 14:29:48 er 14:29:49 MAG_IMMUNE 14:31:22 Grunt: how does that interact with weapon brand? 14:31:29 just like with balrugs 14:31:30 it 14:31:30 stacks 14:31:31 !!! 14:32:21 so salamanders are naga with less ac but more fire 14:32:29 is that right 14:32:38 They are dodgier, too. 14:32:47 (... in more than one sense ...) 14:34:08 higher dodging apt and I guess more dex? 14:34:57 (still won't be incredible at it thanks to their size but I guess that's a thing) 14:35:06 they are medium-sized 14:35:13 all ablaze 14:35:18 half man 14:35:19 half naga, half fire 14:35:19 half snake 14:35:21 ALL ABLAZE 14:35:37 (that line is the best part of the entire branch) 14:35:46 ??nessos[stone cold 14:35:46 I don't have a page labeled nessos[stone cold in my learndb. 14:35:48 :( 14:35:52 ??nessos[half 14:35:53 nessos[2/3]: Nessos, the merfolk. Nessos shouts, "I'm half man! Half horse! And all stone-cold KILLER!" 14:36:21 just pretend you're one of these 14:36:23 salamander (03l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 1 | HP: 1-3 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 3 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 12drown | XP: 1 | Sz: tiny | Int: reptile. 14:36:23 %??giant_newt name:salamander n_rpl 14:36:26 ha 14:36:46 that's cool then 14:37:03 you get that sweet drown resistance due to cling 14:37:03 idk 14:37:06 I'd say they're pretty hot 14:37:10 or no, they don't have cling 14:37:17 just that sweet amphibiousness 14:37:29 Int: reptile 14:37:32 rip player cling 14:37:39 no 14:37:40 no rip 14:37:43 rest in hellfire 14:37:44 i m o 14:37:49 k 14:37:58 rip spiderformswift 14:39:10 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:39:32 Experimental (salamander) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3157-g5f6838d 14:40:13 hm 14:40:47 ? 14:40:51 !tell |amethyst could use your help with a c++11 problem, when you have some time http://sprunge.us/VFNT compilation error that I'm not sure how to fix 14:40:52 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 14:43:25 i think you need more constructors 14:43:34 that sounds constructive 14:43:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what are the errors? 14:43:48 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:44:12 two errors, repeated many times 14:44:15 * wheals frees Grunt. 14:44:19 http://pastebin.com/8vmDutng 14:44:47 ...yeah the error message might just imply you need more ctors :P 14:45:15 I'm not sure what that would entail 14:45:36 o 14:45:36 struct spell_resistance() probably needs something like 14:45:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you have a vector 14:45:38 wait I have a thought 14:45:43 spell_resistance(spres_type typ) : type(typ), percent(100) { } 14:45:44 spell_resistance(spres_type typ, uint per) : type(typ), percent(per) { } 14:45:44 <|amethyst> you are passing in spres_types 14:45:50 <|amethyst> what grunt said 14:46:04 yeah what grunt said 14:46:06 that will not be the entire problem though, I'm guessing 14:46:07 basically 14:46:07 you can simplify 14:46:50 spell_resistance(spres_type type_ = SPRES_HARMLESS, percent_ = 100) : type{type_}, percent{percent_}{}; 14:46:59 mm 14:47:00 yes 14:47:01 yes 14:47:17 almost exactly the code I just wrote, (but I put the underscores leading instead of trailing) 14:47:23 i ran into this with feature_def, ##C++ helped me out 14:47:38 some day I should go there 14:47:45 !abyss PleasingFungus 14:47:45 wheals casts a spell. PleasingFungus is devoured by a tear in reality! 14:48:07 nooo 14:48:14 hooray 14:48:20 only one other (tiny) syntax error, and it compiled! 14:48:22 ty all :) 14:48:29 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:30 <|amethyst> oh 14:48:31 <|amethyst> also 14:48:39 <|amethyst> you don't need the extra braces anymore either 14:48:47 extra braces? 14:49:05 <|amethyst> since you have that constructor, you can write { SPRES_AC, SPRES_EV, SPRES_SH } 14:49:09 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:49:13 !send PleasingFungus bugs 14:49:14 Sending bugs to PleasingFungus. 14:49:17 ! 14:49:18 PleasingFungus: what are you doing with these 14:49:25 going to add them to spell descriptions 14:49:39 Fireball. blah blah blah. Resisted by: AC, rF 14:49:48 maybe 14:49:48 also 14:49:52 Hellfire Burst. Blah blah blah. Resisted by: nothing 14:50:00 use that to land the hex success chance thing 14:50:01 <_< 14:50:04 Hellfire. blah blah blah Resisted by: you wish 14:50:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hopefully you'll be making the actual effect check the same data? 14:50:10 I think it's pretty distinct. 14:50:34 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:50:40 |amethyst: that would be nice, but at present it's a completely redundant set. in some cases it'd be essentially impossible - I'm using this to note that Awaken Forest checks both AC and EV, for example 14:50:57 s/completely/mostly/ 14:50:59 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: my worry is that a redundant set will get wrong very quicky 14:51:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: having the wiki and learndb out of date is one thing, but the game itself... 14:51:15 -!- PolkaDot has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:31 it's a reasonable concern 14:51:37 I don't know that we change these things this often, though 14:52:15 beam_ac_res should account for BEAM_FRAG 14:52:16 one thing that could be done is drawing some basic beam stuff from a common source, rather than declaring it independently in 4+ places 14:52:28 beam_ac_res? 14:52:39 !send beam.cc PleasingFungus 14:52:39 Sending PleasingFungus to beam.cc. 14:53:03 +inline int beam_ac_res(spres_type type) 14:53:08 +{ 14:53:09 + return type == SPRES_RELEC ? 50 : 100; 14:53:09 +} 14:53:26 PleasingFungus: we could clean a lot of definitions out of mon-cast.cc by adding a couple of fields to zap data 14:53:28 oh 14:53:30 monster damage, monster to hit 14:53:58 there's no such thing as SPRES_FRAG, and I don't think we have any frag things that check EV, anyway. 14:54:05 sandblast 14:54:07 scattershot 14:54:12 scattershot checks ev? 14:54:14 which you put down as + {{SPRES_AC, 300}}, 14:54:24 PleasingFungus: each individual pellet checks EV 14:54:30 hm 14:54:33 I couldn't get it to miss when testing 14:54:37 it's just that when you get 10+ shots at once EV quickly becomes irrelevant :) 14:54:40 possibly evo is too high 14:54:49 maybe would be nice to merge zaps into spells 14:54:57 wheals: yes 14:57:16 <|amethyst> there are a few cases where one spell uses multiple zaps 14:58:22 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3153-gc6d0c83: Fix hydra cleaving. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6d0c83cca2b 14:58:36 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 14:58:49 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:57 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 14:59:32 mm, i guess the other problem is that there are some zaps for abilities 14:59:57 huh, there are _three_ sandblast zaps? 15:00:00 yes 15:00:05 nothing, stones, large rocks 15:00:06 <|amethyst> large rocks 15:00:11 huh 15:00:19 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:06:18 !source leg_source 15:06:19 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/beam.cc;hb=HEAD#l3175 15:06:22 good method name 15:06:30 what 15:06:31 is a leg source 15:06:35 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:07:00 oh 15:07:04 you know if 15:07:07 you bounce a bolt 15:07:10 you get multiple segments 15:07:16 a "leg" is one of those segments 15:07:23 so a leg source is the source of the current leg of the bolt 15:07:49 ah. 15:08:29 uh 15:08:34 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 15:08:44 I think embrace should have a cap 15:08:59 AC 2867 15:10:02 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:17 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10:57 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:12:19 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:26 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:12:31 embrace should not have a cap, but I am planning to change how it works. 15:15:35 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:35 The build was fixed. (salamander - 5f6838d #1134 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/44024674 15:15:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:16:30 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:17:35 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:40 -!- casmith789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:21:59 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 15:22:05 03Grunt02 07[salamander] * 0.16-a0-3158-g890eac8: Don't make salamanders even slower on level-up. 10(58 seconds ago, 3 files, 7+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=890eac83feb1 15:24:15 thank you for that incredibly important save compat 15:24:21 ya 15:24:39 it's because I have a game in progress <_< >_> 15:26:12 Your unarmed attacks are 15:26:14 SPWPN_FLAMING instead. 15:26:29 does Sa get flaming blade hands 15:26:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:26:37 FLAMING. BLADE. HANDS. 15:26:52 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 15:27:13 ...er, that does not actually work 15:27:16 it should!!! 15:27:50 and flaming freezing ice form punch!? 15:28:00 no, the ice form overwrites your natural brand. 15:28:08 pfffff 15:28:20 crystal salamander giant 15:30:29 so the motivation behind the casting from max mp stuff is that even though less max mp isn't always relevant, the costs are literally never relevant with the current implementation of rmsl/dmsl 15:30:49 there's no downside to just casting them after every battle and then resting up to regain the mp before traveling on 15:36:16 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:33 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:56 i imagine that max mp would be a less trivial cost once you have more than one buff active, although it's not entirely clear yet what all we would want to convert 15:39:23 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:41:17 In terms of durable buffs, I'd like to have charm-type spells be enabled all the time and either 1) have a chance of proccing based on your spell % chance and have an effect proportional to your current spell power, or 2) the same thing but if you fail your proc chance the spell "turns off" and needs to be recast again to reenable. 15:42:00 I'm not sure what (2) provides over (1). 15:42:18 yeah, (2) is the current state of rmsl/dmsl, and i don't like it at all 15:42:21 The idea being that the interface should be low maintenance, maybe as simple as turning on once ever, but keeping consequences for success chance and spellpower. 15:42:34 it's what i'm specifically trying to get rid of, actually 15:42:41 I also like 1) better than 2) 15:42:55 in the 1) version, you could have some charms also take mana when they proc 15:42:58 yeah, also having spell power/success matter would be good though 15:43:01 it could just automatically re-enable itself after a while 15:43:03 or have a chance to take mana 15:43:13 i could see some form of (1) being a reasonable option 15:43:16 like, a delay based on power or something 15:43:17 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:43:27 03Grunt02 07[salamander] * 0.16-a0-3159-ge6ac362: Retain salamander fire attacks with blade hands / appendage (kvaak). 10(60 seconds ago, 2 files, 19+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6ac362a52c3 15:43:38 ! 15:44:28 Finally the anti-hydra tech we've all been waiting for 15:45:40 secret pro combo 15:46:13 Lasty: what about spells like flight? 15:46:45 Flight and haste are problems, since they "proc" on every turn 15:46:53 My suggestion would be removing both spells :p 15:47:00 well, haste probably shouldn't use this mechanism at all 15:47:05 since it would interact pretty badly with contam 15:47:05 haste is fine. 15:47:11 Alternately, just leave Flight as is 15:47:24 flight on the other hand is mostly just an interface irritating 15:47:29 which is why i want to convert it 15:47:48 I quite like the way current flight interacts with wind drakes. 15:47:56 And, to a lesser extent, certain titan vaults. 15:47:58 you quite often want to use flight for more than just a single duration, and that's totally doable as long as you just recast it repeatedly, which is annoying 15:48:04 PleasingFungus: how so? 15:48:06 also changing haste would prevent using it on other monsters 15:48:19 Experimental (salamander) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3159-ge6ac362 15:48:22 Lightli: Haste Other spell 15:48:39 doy: The fact that it's uncancelled means there's a risk in using it continuously in e.g. shoals, since it's a good way to get fucked by wind drakes. 15:49:06 oh, i see 15:49:08 hmmm 15:49:38 I can't think of a way to keep the interaction PF likes and make the spell less irritating 15:49:42 yeah 15:49:43 This also provides a neat niche for evocable flight, since that *is* cancellable (but not renewable) 15:49:57 except from boots 15:50:02 (except for boots of flight, which are very rare and take up a slot that has other neat effects) 15:50:04 hi lasty 15:50:13 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:50:13 hi PleasingFungus 15:50:17 :) 15:50:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:32 obv. implement ice bridges 15:53:01 boots of waterwalkin-wait flying already exists RIP 15:53:39 -!- Tux[Qyou] is now known as Tux[Qafk] 15:53:39 could give a failure chance to cancelling flight(: 15:54:49 I'm trying to decide if that's actually a bad idea 15:56:35 imo change non-Flight charms and thereby highlight how out-of-place Flight is 15:56:56 it's already pretty out of place 15:57:09 agreed 15:57:09 rip see invisible, insulation, etc (they will not be missed) 15:57:14 alternately, wind drake breath and airstrike could make flight uncancellable for a few turns 15:57:23 but some devs want to keep it apparently :D 15:57:27 but yeah, just removing flight entirely is also an option(: 15:57:39 really kind of makes more sense as part of a tmut form or whatever anyway 15:59:06 ??ae 15:59:07 air elementalist[1/1]: Starts with skill in conjurations and air magic, plus a {book of Air}. See {bolt bouncing}. 15:59:11 ??book of air 15:59:11 book of air[1/1]: Shock, Swiftness, Repel Missiles, Flight, Static Discharge, Lightning Bolt 15:59:31 this class is going to be even more worthless than they are already if any kind of charm reform goes through 15:59:39 imo someone should redesign it 16:00:58 What's wrong with AE? 16:01:38 hmmm, also 16:01:46 weren't we going to remove bolt of fire and bolt of cold 16:01:50 no 16:02:14 we were going to remove specifically bolt of cold, since ice already has two other l6 aoe damage spells 16:02:14 removing -both- definitely seems like overkkill 16:02:18 bolt of fire is fine 16:02:36 Lasty: repel missiles will be useless to early AE, since they desperately need all the MP they can get, and there aren't nearly enough projectile monsters early on to justify it 16:02:59 and flight will be gone (not that it was great for them ever since electricity started hurting fliers) 16:03:23 (so there's no [shock/static discharge/lightning bolt] + flight combo) 16:03:36 so, I mean, what's left 16:04:01 make shroud into tloc/air 16:04:53 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05:18 spending max mp on a buff is incredibly iffy early on - I'm not even sure ee will get much use out of stoneskin pre-temple (pre-lair?) with this proposed reform. 16:05:35 unless you aren't a class that relies on mp for offense, in which case there's still effectively no cost. 16:06:05 the objections to this plan are starting to come back to me. 16:06:09 well, so 16:06:18 i think this kind of points to a deeper issue, honestly 16:06:44 because right now, rmsl has effectively zero cost 16:06:55 and if that's the only cost that makes it worthwhile, then, well 16:07:04 if what's the only cost? 16:07:06 oh 16:07:16 no it's very very worthwhile for most situations 16:07:17 just 16:07:33 not for the class that starts with it, when they start with it 16:07:54 might become worthwhile around lair if there was more than fuck-all for ranged in lair, but in practice I think it'd only become useful in orc or so 16:08:00 for ae 16:08:32 for melee-focused chars who find it in a non-starting book, it'd be worthwhile immediately, with or without the max mp cost 16:08:54 the max mp cost makes no real difference for them 16:09:26 yeah, i think a better answer for that case is making it actually depend on spell power in some way 16:09:43 that wouldn't matter 16:09:48 it would still be worthwhile 16:09:52 since there's still no cost 16:10:08 sure, but that's true of any magic for melee-focused characters anyway 16:10:09 noise! 16:10:20 i mean, what kind of cost do you think would be relevant? 16:10:23 ontoclasm: oh no, the noise cost of casting a non-combat spell 16:10:35 :Y 16:10:37 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:10:43 (i meant continuous noise while it's on) 16:10:51 doy: well, there's quite a lot of cost for casting actual combat spells (e.g. any conjuration), since that takes time in combat 16:10:52 a la qazlal 16:10:58 and there's a cost for e.g. swiftness, haste, etc 16:11:39 one related proposal a while back was to make charms drain mp over time while active, which *would* be relevant even for melee chars. unfortunately, it would also make them utterly unusuable for blasters 16:11:41 which I think is a pity 16:13:20 maybe the entire concept of no-downside charms is bad 16:13:34 yes. 16:13:52 i guess that is the direction we have been slowly heading anyway 16:13:59 so 16:14:00 the mp over time thing, or the max mp thing, are both downsides. they just aren't great downsides. 16:14:38 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14:42 idk. I guess locking off (many? most?) charms to casters could work as a design principle, if you thought that primary-casters get access to too much versatility by virtue of their choice of killdudes method. 16:15:34 I mean, is there any particular reason that "choosing to kill dudes with spells" should make you much much better at "buffing yourself with spells?" (by virtue of higher int, lighter armour, spellcasting investment) it does at present, but I don't know that it needs to. 16:16:09 maybe "buffing yourself with spells" just shouldn't be a thing 16:16:14 move that stuff over to rods or something 16:16:55 it does feel more like accidental synergy than anything else 16:17:09 I really like the idea of buffing yourself with spells - not becoming generically stronger, but gaining versatility and the ability to tailor yourself to certain situations as the result of character investment. arguably tmut is a better model for that than current charms 16:17:21 in some ways 16:17:47 <|amethyst> make the weapon branding spells into tmuts 16:17:51 fr: partial forms 16:18:00 !send |amethyst ice humanoid form 16:18:01 Sending ice humanoid form to |amethyst. 16:19:18 ... 16:19:21 !send |amethyst spiderman form 16:19:21 Sending spiderman form to |amethyst. 16:19:51 tmut does at least provide more options for packaging downsides with things 16:20:57 the iceman cometh 16:28:48 hasteform 16:29:18 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:30:16 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:31:57 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:33:00 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:34:16 ??charms-reform 16:34:17 I don't have a page labeled charms-reform in my learndb. 16:34:23 where is it 16:34:28 it is in our hearts 16:34:45 can you summarize it 16:34:54 there are like 16:35:00 two different proposals currently circulating 16:35:20 I imagine "charms cost mp/turn" and "charms reduce maxmp"? 16:35:44 doy's is just "max mp is reduced by having certain charms (e.g. rmsl/dmsl) active" - not sure if it's 1xspell level or some higher multiplier 16:35:50 and they're permanent until dispelled or w/e 16:36:00 Lasty's is more complex 16:36:22 I wasn't counting "charms cost mp/turn" as one of the circulating proposals - I guess that'd be #3 16:36:31 well, those two aren't really necessarily incompatible either 16:36:40 #4 is just "make more things sort of like swiftness or song of slaying or w/e" but that's not exactly a coherent plan 16:36:47 the stuff i've implemented isn't really intended to be the final design at all 16:36:55 #5 is just "remove charms" 16:36:58 d: 16:37:07 gonna go ahead and veto that one, sam 16:37:13 hmm 16:37:17 (for the purpose of this conversation, your name is sam) 16:37:18 (the school, not the spells) 16:37:22 oh 16:37:25 that's 16:37:27 what is "more like song of slaying or swiftness" 16:37:30 they arent that similar 16:37:35 tabstorm: built-in downsides 16:37:35 tabstorm: drawbacks built into the spell 16:37:38 ok 16:37:41 unique drawbacks, I guess 16:37:48 as opposed to the generic mp/turn stuff or w/e 16:38:00 eh 16:38:02 doy: I don't feel strongly about charms school one way or another. 16:38:05 Do whatever 16:38:05 ideally less like swiftness and more like song of slaying, because symmetry is generally boring 16:38:10 I don' cast spells anyway 16:38:10 tabstorm: :) 16:38:28 tabstorm: imo you should dredge up that old plan for improving song of slaying 16:38:49 It's just "raise cap a bit and make noise f(slaying counter)" 16:39:28 so that the noise at like.. +10 slaying is like, the noise of current SoS plus a bit 16:39:28 or something 16:39:29 mostly so its less poop early on 16:39:52 didn't you also want to scale slaying bonus by enemy hd 16:39:57 -!- caricature has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:40:31 -!- Tux[Qafk] is now known as Tux[Qyou] 16:40:57 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:44:34 !learn add implemented_bad_ideas 2819. We need dual wielding! 16:44:35 implemented bad ideas[28/28]: 2819. We need dual wielding! 16:46:25 ??implemented bad ideas[21] 16:46:25 implemented bad ideas[21/28]: 2991. Jester class, who starts with a book of Party Tricks and a number of bad wands. 16:46:28 cut this? 16:46:51 let me look 16:46:56 minmay: yeah they are definitely dual wielded and not one weapon with a cool name 16:46:59 ??implemented bad ideas[5] 16:46:59 implemented bad ideas[5/28]: 731. You open the door like a pillowcase!!! Now unimplemented; RIP 16:47:01 I'd rather cut that 16:47:02 !learn del implemented_bad_ideas[5 16:47:03 Deleted implemented bad ideas[5/28]: 731. You open the door like a pillowcase!!! Now unimplemented; RIP 16:47:07 minmay: beat me to it 16:47:10 fine enough 16:47:17 since it really wasn't ever implemented... 16:49:21 PleasingFungus: Cancellation doesn't end cigo's embrace 16:50:38 i dont rmeember 16:50:39 %rc playerglyph 16:50:40 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/playerglyph.rc 16:51:05 Lasty: I think that was intentional. Arguably it's incorrect 16:51:08 I don't feel strongly about it 16:51:10 !tell gammafunk you should know that i have an extremely advanced and sophisticated player glyph section in my rcfile 16:51:10 wheals: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 16:51:13 it's sort of physical and sort of magical. 16:52:01 PleasingFungus: Presumably magic holds it together 16:52:20 but I suppose you could argue the magic isn't attached to you 16:52:59 yeah 16:53:02 on both counts 16:53:27 if you would like to change it, feel free. Unlike the corpses, I have no particular attachment. 16:53:53 I'm not sure how I feel about it. As a player I expect cancellation to remove it 16:54:09 but I can rationalize it when it doesn't 16:54:45 ??implemented bad ideas[1] 16:54:45 implemented bad ideas[1/27]: 714. When you hit an ogre with a long blade, instead of opening it like a pillowcase, you dice the ogre like an onion!!! 16:55:06 Lasty: imo change it to match your expectations, in that case 16:55:16 and see if anyone complains that the new behaviour doesn't match their expectations 16:55:44 heh, fair nuf 16:55:50 ??implemented bad ideas[2] 16:55:50 implemented bad ideas[2/27]: A cat race that gets nine lives! 16:56:01 ??pms 16:56:01 pms ~ pm ~ private messages[1/2]: If you need to read all of a topic, use these ('/msg Sequell ??foo', or '!readall foo') instead, so you don't choke up discussion on the whole channel. 16:58:36 Would it cause too much spam if I type !readall implemented bad ideas ? Can I find them somewhere else? 16:58:59 type /msg Sequell !readall implemented_bad_ideas 16:59:01 alternately 16:59:07 https://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html#implemented_bad_ideas 16:59:15 thanks! 16:59:17 np 16:59:36 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:02:25 fr: bring back LCS the unrandart 17:02:49 nah. 17:03:10 rip 17:05:21 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:05:34 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:08:28 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:09:47 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:10:50 -!- AlexMcc has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:11:02 !dump 17:11:02 No where information for muravey. 17:11:46 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:14:56 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:17:41 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:20:08 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:20:17 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:22:00 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:42 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:23:37 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:01 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3153-gc6d0c83 (34) 17:24:49 -!- CcS has quit [] 17:26:03 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:26:16 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:05 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:28:31 wheals: tweaking that thing is what made me start writing the playerglyph thing 17:28:31 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:28:47 just have to finish converting/defining all the "roles" I want 17:28:53 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:29:30 I got my copy of what you started modifying from like N7 or someone else's rc 17:30:18 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:30:38 +PleasingFungus | nah. 17:30:39 yeah it has many mutations 17:30:40 wtf 17:30:53 well I mean 17:30:54 All you need to do is implement unrand ammo, PF!!! 17:31:03 I could go into the number of people who've suggested that (including me) 17:31:19 and the tragic problems (centrally: "lehduib's crystal javelin" really is not the same) 17:31:24 but that's boring 17:31:25 :< 17:31:38 time to rename the spell 17:31:41 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:32:22 -!- Calisca2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:32:26 if i gell's gravitas myself do i take collision damage 17:32:35 magic dart, iskenderun's magic tomahawk, 17:32:40 yes 17:32:44 *mystic tomahawk 17:32:45 hmph 17:33:32 is collision damage commutative between monsters adjacent in the direction of the vector ??? 17:33:43 iron bolt 17:34:08 bolt of ice imo 17:34:15 because if not i can sit in a corridor and drag a bunch of enemies to the front 17:34:24 which is my ^chei gells secret tech 17:34:31 cone of chaos 17:34:34 sounds cool 17:34:35 an unrand helm 17:34:35 imo do it 17:34:50 !send gammafunk chain of chaos 17:34:50 Sending chain of chaos to gammafunk. 17:34:56 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:34:59 that was @ read 17:35:14 is that the name of the chaingang where Grunt works? 17:35:23 ha. 17:35:38 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:35:54 ?/chain g.*dev 17:35:55 Matching entries (1): devteam[26]: Grunt, are you in a chain gang or something? yes, he's on the devteam 17:36:04 ! 17:36:13 we are the chain of chaos 17:36:16 plausible 17:36:36 !chainlightning gammafunk 17:36:42 !chaingun gammafunk 17:36:42 learn edit devteam[26 17:37:00 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 17:37:05 ?? 17:37:20 !chaingun would go well with \iron 17:37:23 imo 17:37:52 !scattershot pleasingfungus 17:38:13 idea, some kind of unrand rod glued to a wand that double-zaps 17:38:19 \/ glyph in console 17:39:27 do you dual-wield it 17:39:44 wand in each hand 17:39:45 hm 17:39:47 this sounds familiar 17:41:58 PleasingFungus: sorry, but my update to RandomTiles that includes a properly rolling boulder beetle is renewing calls for boulder form and "bowl beetle", a terribly concieved summons spell 17:42:15 heh 17:42:19 should I be looking at cszo? 17:42:35 SomeoneAwful on cszo yeah, but he'll probably change tile 17:42:38 by the time you look 17:42:45 oh nm 17:42:54 I caught the tail end of the boulder 17:43:40 PleasingFungus: I very nearly called the fungus tileset "pleasing fungus" 17:43:47 heh 17:44:17 but based on what I've learned, that should actually be a beetle 17:45:33 wow that bennu tile 17:45:33 not in my top 10 list of tiles 17:45:45 (it's the phoenix tile) 17:50:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3154-g34a23a8: Remove an incorrect comment. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34a23a8160c4 17:50:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3155-gf03ee07: Clean up beam.h. 10(23 minutes ago, 2 files, 148+ 156-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f03ee074c6b3 17:50:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3156-gbaec274: Fix some edge cases with invisibility and reflection. 10(83 seconds ago, 2 files, 18+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=baec27472b1f 17:51:27 wheals: imo clean up beam.cc next 17:51:29 <_< 17:52:14 !beam Grunt 17:52:14 wheals casts a spell. Grunt is cast into beam.cc! 17:52:40 beam.is_wheals 17:53:33 beam.is_grunt // XXX the game becomes insane if a beam fires and this is set to true. 17:56:01 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58:21 PleasingFungus: Trip report from my Secret Gell's Tech, I died to one of the 2 Iron Trolls in the pack I Gell'd 17:58:23 :( 17:58:36 It worked though apart from the dying part. 17:59:04 heh 17:59:11 you can thank me for the iron trolls 17:59:14 were they hasted/mighted??? 17:59:27 are you saying they were no 17:59:30 geldings? 17:59:57 I don't think that technique every really gelled in read's head tbqh 18:00:03 *ever 18:00:06 !banish gammafunk 18:00:06 PleasingFungus casts a spell. gammafunk is devoured by a tear in reality! 18:00:13 He lacked the gravitas to pull it off 18:00:14 oh god 18:14:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3157-gc14e2fc: Change cigotuvi's shed behaviour 10(67 minutes ago, 5 files, 30+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c14e2fc85d8f 18:14:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3158-gd1cc993: Change Cigotuvi's armour ratios 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 27+ 27-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1cc993324d2 18:15:56 hm 18:16:11 cigotuvi's bikeshed 18:16:41 well 18:16:46 mechanics changes aren't bikeshedding 18:16:51 or at least 18:16:53 these aren't, I think 18:16:53 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:24 honestly I kind of want to take off the "armour falls off when you get hit/block" thing - it feels a little extraneous at this point 18:18:28 but that would RUIN the monster version 18:18:37 I will argue to the death for my extremely serious point that was not an excuse to pun 18:18:40 don't test me 18:18:53 was that a pun. 18:19:05 cigotuvi's shed 18:19:14 come. on. 18:19:22 feh 18:19:47 wait, wtf, freeze stuns enemies 18:19:54 the spell? ya 18:19:57 I had 18:19:59 no idea 18:20:05 had to double-check in the code 18:20:14 I wasn't aware either tbh; I knew it slows them 18:20:17 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:20:23 that's only cold blooded 18:20:28 sure 18:20:30 iirc it stuns any non rC enemy 18:20:37 bah, fixing Cigo 18:20:47 right after i finish my game 18:20:56 !lg Lasty 18:20:56 241. Lasty the Spry (L27 HuAs of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2014-12-15 00:18:10, with 2001834 points after 87453 turns and 6:19:27. 18:21:04 !lg Lasty -log 18:21:05 241. Lasty, XL27 HuAs, T:87453: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Lasty/morgue-Lasty-20141215-001810.txt 18:21:22 Sif was just for polytheist 18:22:01 'sif 18:22:05 Freeze stuns enemies? 18:22:16 What's "stun"? 18:22:22 reduces their energy 18:22:24 hrm 18:22:27 &rc Lasty 18:22:29 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Lasty.rc 18:22:30 const int stun = (1 - cold_res) * random2(2 + pow/5); 18:22:31 mons->speed_increment -= stun; 18:22:36 huh, wow. It's even better than i thought 18:22:46 ya 18:23:01 w o w 18:23:10 and i thought it was nuts 18:23:25 oh ibm glyphs 18:23:41 what do you use? 18:24:15 Lasty: specifically for walls I do 18:24:16 &rc gammafunk 18:24:18 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/gammafunk.rc 18:24:30 feature += green crystal {x2591} 18:24:30 feature += stone wall {x2592} 18:24:30 feature += metal wall {x2593} 18:24:30 feature += unnaturally hard rock wall {x2588} 18:24:41 it's really nice if you have a terminal that renders those 18:24:52 increasing "hardness" glyphs 18:24:59 and then rock is just # 18:25:10 some players set colours, but this lets you keep w/e colour 18:25:28 hmm... would be nice to be able to see wall hardness 18:25:43 putty has no problem rendering 18:26:19 I'm gonna try it now 18:26:20 obviously the biggest thing is just rock vs. not rock, but even stone vs. metal can rarely be an issue 18:26:21 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:26:41 -!- Guest72086 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:26:48 wow, your rc is detailed. I should mine it for useful stuff 18:27:19 there's not too much in there that's special, bunch of spell slot assigns, force_mores 18:27:34 oh yeah my system for item/menu colours 18:27:42 but lots of people do that as well 18:27:53 you have detailed item coloring based on species 18:27:59 yeah 18:28:01 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:28:12 yeah just a few items that's relevant foor 18:28:16 mostly undead vs. not 18:28:32 also nice stuff to get better behaviour out of 0.15 18:28:56 !next 18:28:59 The RNG decrees that Lasty shall win HuCj next. 18:29:14 who still plays 0.15? That's so . . . earlier 2014. 18:29:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 18:29:43 just can't speedrun a moving target when I'm trying to win HE as fast as possible 18:31:01 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:04 !lg gammafunk hesu 1 18:31:04 1/851. gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0 club) on D:1 on 2014-06-27 20:54:40, with 2 points after 104 turns and 0:00:48. 18:31:16 mm. good starting day 18:31:40 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:32:37 !lg PleasingFungus gh 18:32:37 37. PleasingFungus the Magician (L1 GhWz), slain by an ooze on D:1 (mrwooster_arrival_statue) on 2014-12-09 04:04:04, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:00:21. 18:32:39 !lg PleasingFungus gh 1 18:32:40 1/37. PleasingFungus the Grave Robber (L2 GhNe), slain by a kobold (a +0,+0 dagger) on D:2 on 2014-01-18 16:49:57, with 32 points after 1002 turns and 0:03:12. 18:33:22 one year anniversary coming up... 18:33:25 dang 18:33:32 !lm . 18:33:32 5874. [2014-12-12 18:56:02] PleasingFungus the Warrior (L19 GhWz of Cheibriados) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 35576. (Shoals:5) 18:33:37 ! 18:33:44 I believe 18:33:47 this one's gonna go 18:33:48 all the way 18:33:49 you rolled a caster 18:33:56 a powerful toon 18:34:01 &dump PleasingFungus 18:34:02 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/PleasingFungus/PleasingFungus.txt 18:34:21 PLOG 18:34:26 ya 18:34:33 it's worse than +1 boots I had earlier I think but 18:34:34 it's PLOG 18:34:38 so really I had no choice 18:34:41 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:34:53 rPois ∞ 18:35:12 yeah, i need to fix that on my server too 18:35:21 or you could write a unicode BOM to the dump 18:35:26 the most important part of putting the pan lord back into the tutorial 18:35:35 having somebody called plog to kill you 18:35:40 putting the 18:35:41 what 18:35:59 back in like 0.7 or whatever when the tutorial was one mode 18:36:12 plog the firestorm pan lord finishes the mode off 18:36:44 that is an interesting dump map 18:37:36 ya 18:37:39 idk what's going on there either 18:37:47 my rcfile is... not exactly complex 18:38:06 charset mismatch 18:38:22 change the encoding to utf-8 in your browser 18:39:01 I just fixed my server but it'd be good to just explicitly mark the files as utf-8 18:41:57 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:46:49 you do know that that's actually a unicode violation that microsoft came up with? 18:47:00 utf8 does not have byte order, hence does not have byte order marks 18:47:05 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:47:26 PolkaDot (L17 VpEn) ASSERT(item.sub_type == CORPSE_BODY) in 'butcher.cc' at line 363 failed. (Spider:4) 18:47:59 yeah, no utf8 boms please 18:48:03 (rather, since it is a byte encoding, byte order is controlled completely by the utf8 definition, and host byte order is irrelevant) 18:49:03 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:48 right, it's a violation, but it will allow browser auto-detect 18:56:45 -!- _aardvark has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:57:56 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:01:46 why do browsers make the default not-UTF-8 19:02:32 because iis used goddamn code pages instead of utf8 19:03:23 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0/20141125180439]] 19:03:29 * geekosaur has a number of sites he visits somewhat regularly which require various windows-MUMBLE encodings to display proeprly. and of course all the dumb Americans who still use iso8859-1 because who cares about furriners and their funny charsets? 19:05:36 please say "M$" so I can complete my stereotype bingo row 19:06:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:06:06 loonix 19:07:19 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:26 Loony Linuxers 19:08:48 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:08:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3159-g1b9e691: Don't list why players can't memorize monster spells 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b9e691ae7b8 19:08:55 New branch created: spellres (4 commits) 19:08:55 03PleasingFungus02 07[spellres] * 0.16-a0-3160-g4d50233: Add spell resistance info to spell descs 10(4 hours ago, 3 files, 364+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d5023369ec1 19:08:55 03PleasingFungus02 07[spellres] * 0.16-a0-3161-gf6956ad: Validate. 10(33 minutes ago, 2 files, 14+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6956ade4297 19:08:55 03PleasingFungus02 07[spellres] * 0.16-a0-3162-ga0130f3: Add spell descriptions 10(8 minutes ago, 3 files, 59+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0130f39b5a7 19:08:55 03PleasingFungus02 07[spellres] * 0.16-a0-3163-g5a61004: Duplicate some code 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a61004ef833 19:08:58 * geekosaur shrugs... ok, if you want to believe it;s stereotyping,be my guest. all the blogs that don't render right in unicode are all 100% in my imagination, yep 19:09:29 arguably the first commit should also have been titled "duplicate some code" 19:09:57 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:11:31 !seen sd1989 19:11:31 I last saw sd1989 at Tue Oct 28 03:12:30 2014 UTC (6w 5d 21h 59m 1s ago) quitting, saying 'Client Quit'. 19:12:51 !duplicate PleasingFungus 19:14:35 * PleasingFungus splits in two! 19:14:51 -!- serq has quit [Quit: und weg...] 19:15:06 PleasingJelly?! 19:15:22 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:15:31 * PleasingFungus makes a squishing noise. 19:16:05 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:18:05 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:05 The build was broken. (master - d1cc993 #1139 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/44040421 19:18:05 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:18:18 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:18:37 segfault in map generation 19:18:40 pretty sure that's not mine 19:19:09 !blame PleasingFungus 19:19:09 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 19:19:15 nah. 19:19:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:20:41 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:23:48 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:25:56 !blame Grunt 19:25:56 I pronounce Grunt... Guilty! 19:27:35 !blame nah 19:27:35 I pronounce nah... Guilty! 19:27:49 !gamesby nah 19:27:49 No games for nah. 19:28:07 !gamesby ya 19:28:08 No games for ya. 19:28:18 !gamesby guilty 19:28:18 No games for guilty. 19:28:20 !blame myself 19:28:20 I pronounce myself... Guilty! 19:28:26 !gamesby myself 19:28:27 myself has played 90 games, between 2008-08-16 00:57:51 and 2009-07-04 21:34:07, won 0, high score 78822, total score 148498, total turns 232745, play-time/day 0:04:46, total time 1d+1:43:51. 19:28:59 !gamesby me 19:29:00 me has played 81 games, between 2009-07-07 22:00:45 and 2012-10-28 22:47:52, won 0, high score 148202, total score 315996, total turns 349118, play-time/day 0:02:10, total time 1d+19:47:11. 19:29:17 Ijyb shouts, "me has played 81 games!" 19:33:23 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:33:39 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:35:41 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:36:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:37:35 -!- pikaro has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:43 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:40:51 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 19:45:34 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:45:37 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:47:05 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 19:48:20 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:50:43 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:50:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:53:28 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:18 -!- HoloIRCUser2 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:59:34 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:00:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:00:36 -!- HoloIRCUser5 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:02:08 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:02:34 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:54 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 20:08:37 !blame Grunt 20:08:37 I pronounce Grunt... Guilty! 20:08:43 !blame blame 20:08:43 I pronounce blame... Guilty! 20:09:02 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:09:59 -!- dis-_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:30 !blame Lightli 20:10:31 I pronounce Lightli... Guilty! 20:11:21 -!- dis- has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11:36 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:15:05 Lich broke a stone wall on Tomb 1 making Tomb 2 ambush irrelevant 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9331 by Sandman25 20:15:14 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:15:28 let's act, lest crawl becomes irrelevant! 20:15:32 heh 20:16:12 i mean, i suppose players could always have done that themselves? 20:16:13 I guess you could make a randlich spell veto system 20:16:23 doy: you've never done that? 20:16:37 tombshatter/lrd is LEGENDARY 20:16:41 heh 20:16:57 i've never used lrd on a late game character, actually 20:17:00 it's a fun way to skip parts of tomb, but tele is often easier 20:17:31 anyway, i don't know that spell vetoing is particularly useful, since they could always lead the lich in from elsewhere 20:18:01 the deep troll earth mage tech... 20:19:01 deep troll earth mage (06T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 36-59 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 27, 2009(claw), 2009(claw) | 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(40), 08blind | XP: 902 | Sp: rapid deconstruction, dig | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 20:19:01 %??deep troll earth mage 20:19:09 yeah I like the situational result from the random monsters spells too 20:19:10 not sure if hd 12 is powerful enough to break stone? 20:19:16 yep it is 20:19:18 ?/spectrina 20:19:19 Matching entries (3): epic_bugs[11]: !lg spectrina 750 -tv:$ | hilarious_deaths[118]: !lg spectrina fohe place=slime 1 -tv | sword_in_stone[2]: !lg spectrina cebe 4 -tv:T51200:x4 20:19:25 ??sword_in_stone[2 20:19:25 sword in stone[2/2]: !lg spectrina cebe 4 -tv:T51200:x4 20:19:27 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:19:37 well, anyhow she lured a dtem up to like d:10 20:19:46 to break the sword_in_stone vault to get plut sword 20:19:46 !lg spectrina cebe 4 -tv:T51200:x4 20:19:47 4. Spectrina, XL27 CeBe, T:107056 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 20:19:51 interesting 20:20:00 back when it really was all stone 20:20:42 I recall it only taking like 4 or 5 blasts? 20:21:00 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:21:19 !lg spectrina cebe -log 20:21:20 4. Spectrina, XL27 CeBe, T:107056: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Spectrina/morgue-Spectrina-20130913-082336.txt 20:21:20 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:21:25 well, in that case, i definitely don't think liches are a problem 20:26:47 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:31:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:44 The build passed. (spellres - 5a61004 #1140 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/44042954 20:31:44 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:33:50 -!- _aardvark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:42:38 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:55 troll (07T) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 20, 1509(claw), 1509(claw) | 10doors, regen | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 303 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 20:45:55 %??troll 20:46:04 how come monster trolls get a bite 20:50:04 They need to eat, after all 20:51:29 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57:33 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:59:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:00:35 -!- eliana has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:01:23 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:04:22 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:55 -!- Cheburashka has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:07:26 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:09:02 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:09:21 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:11:54 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:12:34 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:16:35 -!- Cheburashka2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:17:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:22:38 -!- AlexMcc has quit [] 21:29:38 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:38 ??ely 21:35:38 elyvilon[1/4]: The divinity of healing. Most reliable source of protection from being killed (see {divine protection}), but will impose penance (i.e. not answer your requests for help) if you kill living creatures while invoking said protection. Provides healing invocations, but dislikes cannibalism, the use of necromancy, and allowing allies to die. 21:35:42 ??ely [2] 21:35:42 pacification[1/4]: Followers of Elyvilon can pacify monsters with healing abilities and wands of healing. Success rate depends on invocations skill and the strength of the healing ability in comparison to the monster's maxhp, modified mostly by holiness. Piety is not involved. Pacifying a monster gives half the normal xp and has a chance of raising piety. 21:35:45 ??ely [3] 21:35:45 divine vigour[1/1]: Divine Vigour temporarily increases max HP and MP by 5% plus another 5% per 3 levels of invocations skill (increasing current HP and MP proportionally in the process). 21:36:45 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:37:21 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:38:35 !rng !next .gfnext 21:38:35 The RNG chooses: .gfnext. 21:39:19 gammafunk: imo try a Sa-- 21:39:23 they're decent now 21:39:24 :) 21:39:39 !lm * sa-- 21:39:40 794. [2014-12-15 02:56:54] SGrunt the Pyromancer (L24 SaGl of Okawaru) reached level 5 of the Depths on turn 111078. (Depths:5) 21:39:45 !lg . 21:39:46 rip 21:39:46 1415. SGrunt the Pyromancer (L24 SaGl of Okawaru), slain by a water elemental on Depths:5 (serial_bayou_shore_a) on 2014-12-15 02:58:04, with 530691 points after 111130 turns and 4:18:03. 21:40:00 dying that late... 21:40:05 it's 21:40:06 uh 21:40:07 a trend 21:40:08 sadly 21:40:17 my late game has been terrible recently. 21:40:23 well it happens 21:40:28 !lg . -2 21:40:29 !lg . -3 21:40:29 1414/1415. SGrunt the Ruinous (L23 DrCj of Vehumet), slain by a spriggan rider (a +0 spear) (led by a spriggan berserker) on Depths:4 (cheibrodos_leafed_vault) on 2014-12-12 05:57:11, with 481438 points after 88107 turns and 5:30:05. 21:40:29 1413/1415. SGrunt the Hand of Fortune (L27 KoAr of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) (kmap: hall_of_Zot) on Zot:5 on 2014-12-11 04:32:06, with 641804 points after 127938 turns and 7:21:36. 21:40:40 (well that KoAr was me pounding keys) 21:40:44 !lg . -4 21:40:44 1412/1415. SGrunt the Hand of Fortune (L24 KoAr of Nemelex Xobeh), slain by an orc warrior (a +0 halberd) (led by Saint Roka) on Crypt:2 on 2014-12-08 01:52:01, with 402047 points after 78495 turns and 4:02:28. 21:40:50 i'm still a bit miffed about losing my last good HESU to a useless player ghost (essentially) 21:40:52 and that one was pure stupidity 21:40:53 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:41:35 good char, with passable but not ideal spells got shoals, only big weakness is 0 !curing in the game, but no biggie with !hw and /hw and it's shoals, which doesn't require !curing 21:41:52 get a shoals:1 spen ghost with confuse, dazzle, fireball, 40 ev, omniresistant 21:42:15 HOW DO YOU KILL A SPEN ON SHAOLS:1 TO A CYCLOPS WITH THAT GEAR 21:42:22 !lg gammafunk hesu shoals:1 21:42:23 6. gammafunk the Summoner (L11 HESu of Sif Muna), quit the game on Shoals:1 on 2014-12-13 19:22:00, with 10334 points after 6779 turns and 1:09:07. 21:42:26 good 21:42:27 just awful 21:42:29 !lg gammafunk hesu shoals:1 -log 21:42:29 6. gammafunk, XL11 HESu, T:6779: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/gammafunk/morgue-gammafunk-20141213-192200.txt 21:42:59 curse you forever DJConvarich 21:44:37 had so much !invis (a rarity) that I went down invis into shoals:1 (a luxury), got a sinv spen ghost that immediately coronad me...;_; 21:44:59 Grunt: wow, you died to oof in hall of zot 21:45:10 !lg sgrunt ikiller=orb_of_fire 21:45:10 2. SGrunt the Hand of Fortune (L27 KoAr of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) (kmap: hall_of_Zot) on Zot:5 on 2014-12-11 04:32:06, with 641804 points after 127938 turns and 7:21:36. 21:45:13 I hit the wrong key 21:45:13 !lg sgrunt ikiller=orb_of_fire -tv 21:45:14 2. SGrunt, XL27 KoAr, T:127938 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:45:14 >:( 21:45:32 those are the worst when those happen 21:45:38 of course you play like a bat out of hell 21:45:48 ??Grunt[like he codes 21:45:48 I think you rubbed off on wheals too 21:45:48 grunt[17/27]: grunt plays like he codes: optimized for speed and maximum character death 21:45:53 lol 21:46:17 I like PleasingFungus, he gets far fewer entries in ??grunt but his are funnier 21:46:22 a few, but ripe 21:46:59 should have gone up the stairs 21:47:11 good death 21:47:26 Enter note: help 21:47:26 so that was the miskey, not going up? 21:47:32 I couldn't exactly tell 21:47:33 the miskey was immediately after the note 21:47:36 !lg Grunt sa 21:47:36 1. SGrunt the Pyromancer (L24 SaGl of Okawaru), slain by a water elemental on Depths:5 (serial_bayou_shore_a) on 2014-12-15 02:58:04, with 530691 points after 111130 turns and 4:18:03. 21:47:46 !lg * sa won 21:47:46 did that melt you away 21:47:46 2. Banquo the Slayer (L27 SaBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-11-22 00:09:54, with 1511149 points after 102307 turns and 12:24:39. 21:47:56 oh, those were playable already? 21:47:59 yes 21:48:03 they're in a cbro experimental 21:48:08 simm played an older version 21:48:12 !lg * sa won x=src,file 21:48:13 2. [src=cbro;file=remote.cbro-logfile-any-salamander] Banquo the Slayer (L27 SaBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-11-22 00:09:54, with 1511149 points after 102307 turns and 12:24:39. 21:48:13 I made a couple of updates earlier 21:48:18 what do they do now 21:48:25 they are always slow 2 21:48:27 and they have AF_FIRE 21:48:31 wow 21:48:33 i missed out on the fun 21:48:47 a wimpy AF_FIRE, but AF_FIRE nevertheless 21:48:49 how do their resists go again? 21:48:56 ??salamander 21:48:57 salamander[1/5]: A new (experimental) race in 0.16, Salamanders start off with tough skin 2 (+2 AC), rC- and a naga-like tail (can't wear boots but can wear naga bardings). At XL7 and XL14 they gain one level of rF and slow movement respectively; at XL14 they also gain the ability to swim through lava. Try them on {CBRO}! 21:48:57 rf at 7/14 21:49:13 slow species with rC- 21:49:19 !learn edit salamander s/ and slow movement respectively/ 21:49:19 Use: !learn edit salamander[NUM] s/// 21:49:20 An ice beast comes into view... 21:49:23 !learn edit salamander[1] s/ and slow movement respectively/ 21:49:23 salamander[1/5]: A new (experimental) race in 0.16, Salamanders start off with tough skin 2 (+2 AC), rC- and a naga-like tail (can't wear boots but can wear naga bardings). At XL7 and XL14 they gain one level of rF; at XL14 they also gain the ability to swim through lava. Try them on {CBRO}! 21:49:29 yes my first ice beast was scary 21:49:32 since it meant i could just die there 21:49:36 i forget what happened 21:49:50 !learn edit salamander[1] s/tough sk/AF_FIRE, tough sk/ 21:49:50 salamander[1/5]: A new (experimental) race in 0.16, Salamanders start off with AF_FIRE, tough skin 2 (+2 AC), rC- and a naga-like tail (can't wear boots but can wear naga bardings). At XL7 and XL14 they gain one level of rF; at XL14 they also gain the ability to swim through lava. Try them on {CBRO}! 21:50:25 !learn edit salamander[1] s/FIRE, /FIRE, slow move 2, / 21:50:25 salamander[1/5]: A new (experimental) race in 0.16, Salamanders start off with AF_FIRE, slow move 2, tough skin 2 (+2 AC), rC- and a naga-like tail (can't wear boots but can wear naga bardings). At XL7 and XL14 they gain one level of rF; at XL14 they also gain the ability to swim through lava. Try them on {CBRO}! 21:50:29 geeze, 5 entires already 21:50:32 *entries 21:50:35 gammafunk: there was a monster 21:50:37 well, is 21:50:40 gammafunk: most probably refer to the monster 21:50:42 ah yeah 21:51:12 !learn edit salamander[1] s/rC-/slow movement 2, rC-/ 21:51:12 salamander[1/5]: A new (experimental) race in 0.16, Salamanders start off with AF_FIRE, slow move 2, tough skin 2 (+2 AC), slow movement 2, rC- and a naga-like tail (can't wear boots but can wear naga bardings). At XL7 and XL14 they gain one level of rF; at XL14 they also gain the ability to swim through lava. Try them on {CBRO}! 21:51:17 er 21:51:20 that's already there, wow 21:51:24 i just added it 21:51:30 !learn edit salamander[1] s/slow movement 2, / 21:51:31 salamander[1/5]: A new (experimental) race in 0.16, Salamanders start off with AF_FIRE, slow move 2, tough skin 2 (+2 AC), rC- and a naga-like tail (can't wear boots but can wear naga bardings). At XL7 and XL14 they gain one level of rF; at XL14 they also gain the ability to swim through lava. Try them on {CBRO}! 21:51:33 because it didnt look like you were doing it!!! 21:51:41 I'm trying to watch three things at once :b 21:51:43 In 0.13 and earlier they would not leave the lava. You could recover an item from a salamder by using 21:51:46 Tornado to remove it from the lava. Now you can just lure it out 21:52:01 good stuff 21:53:41 !tv Grunt 21:53:42 1415. SGrunt, XL24 SaGl, T:111130 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:54:52 this will probably need more context 21:55:16 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:35 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:00:58 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:02:58 can you rescind a !tell ? 22:03:03 NOPE 22:03:06 awesome 22:03:11 * Grunt !tells johnstein off 22:03:15 You can send a follow-up !tell 22:03:19 probably the easiest thing to do 22:03:23 !tell johnstein bad info 22:03:23 Grunt: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 22:03:28 !tell johnstein oops! not-bad info 22:03:28 Grunt: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 22:03:43 without thinking I just used it for non-crawl stuff. after I hit enter I realized I probably shouldn't have 22:03:44 johnstein: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 22:03:58 slow brain cells tonight 22:12:18 Lasty_: Piginabag: id like to thank the devs 22:12:19 Piginabag: for adding ru 22:12:29 recent OgAM of Ru 22:12:51 came a little close to eating it to shard shrikes on the dpeg cocy end 22:13:30 hrm 22:13:33 doy? 22:13:45 zin doesn't like vampiric weapons 22:13:58 but wielding them doesn't have a warning 22:14:02 hrm 22:14:11 and you only get penance if the vampiricism itself actually procs 22:15:00 both wielding and attacking should probably get a warning, i think 22:15:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:15:19 ya 22:15:25 seems reasonable.\ 22:18:15 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 22:20:35 -!- deeredman1991 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:09 hey is Amythest or anyone else who runs the CSZO server online? 22:21:46 |amethyst: pong 22:22:53 Hi :) is there any way you could delete my account from the server please? :) 22:23:41 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:24:35 any particular reason why? 22:24:45 what do you mean by delete? just remove your login? or all record of your actions there? (logfiles, milestones, ttyrecs, etc) 22:26:40 @gamma well I consider myself a member of GamerGate and I didn't see #Stopgamergate2014 before I signed up. :( and so I would just like to delete my account. :) 22:27:30 @Johnstein either or really doesn't matter I just don't want it tied to my SN/Email. :) 22:29:11 well |amethyst will probably see your request 22:29:39 if you like, you can type !tell |amethyst 22:29:59 @Gammafunk :) 22:30:04 and he'll get a notification 22:30:52 !tell |amethyst Hi, I was wondering if you could please delete my account from your server. :) ty 22:30:52 deeredman1991: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 22:32:01 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:33:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:17 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:38:40 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:39:53 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:06 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:24 psst, did you hear the devs of dcss were pressured into making all the gods "female-friendly"? SJWs complained that there were only male and no-gender gods, which is completely realistic but not "feminist" enough for them 22:41:49 let's not start this kind of a conversation please 22:42:47 i'm just asking questions!! 22:42:48 there are debates with buzzword bots on twitter, poe's law is not something to screw around with on this topic 22:42:52 <|amethyst> deeredman1991: I removed the email address from the account and locked out its password so no one else can take it. I also deleted your morgue and ttyrec dir and rcfiles 22:43:15 <|amethyst> deeredman1991: (since they were empty) 22:43:24 fine :( 22:43:59 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:55 but just to be clear, the official stance is that all gods in crawl are ungendered 22:45:07 you can assume they have any gender you like, of course 22:45:15 !tell |amethyst ty :) 22:45:15 deeredman1991: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 22:46:12 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:48:01 -!- deeredman1991 has left ##crawl-dev 22:49:31 by the way, if I haven't said it yet, thank you so much for that tag placement, |amethyst. 22:49:53 <|amethyst> I've gotten more thanks for it than flak 22:50:00 <|amethyst> it's just a tag though 22:50:05 ?? 22:50:38 Grunt: the #stopgamergate tag 22:50:43 mm 22:51:33 |amethyst: maybe be more proactive and marshall that tag to saves... 22:55:34 -!- Mottikins_ is now known as FaMott 22:57:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:59:26 hm I feel like I was going to mention something to PleasingFungus but I can't remember what. 22:59:55 rip 22:59:56 yes, i appreciate the tag as well 23:00:58 PleasingFungus: piginabag fought a buncha shard shrikes 23:01:08 including in the dpeg end, in that little room 23:01:53 kind kinda close to dying, but probably had enough to save himself reasonably at every point with Ru and w/e else he had 23:02:01 *came kinda 23:03:04 !log piginabag 23:03:05 2615. Piginabag, XL27 OgAM, T:133521: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Piginabag/morgue-Piginabag-20141215-041115.txt 23:03:59 neat 23:04:08 were any of them coc hell effect drops? 23:04:10 -!- warrigal2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:04:46 none that I saw 23:04:50 looked like just spawns 23:04:54 they were both bands 23:05:11 I joined and then said "so, seen any shard shrikes" 23:05:17 and like 2 seconds later a band appeared 23:05:32 then he got another outside of the room in the dpeg cocy end 23:05:37 with the 4 islands 23:06:36 I need to buff the other ends again some time 23:06:46 !lg * cv=0.16-a place=Coc:7 s=kmap 23:06:46 42 games for * (cv=0.16-a place=Coc:7): 16x, 8x coc_old, 7x coc_grunt, 7x coc_dpeg, 3x coc_hangedman, coc_mu 23:07:00 good old mu 23:07:03 with the shortcuts 23:07:07 ...I need to buff coc_mu and coc_hangedman some time 23:07:08 !lg * cv=0.16-a Coc:7 s=map 23:07:08 42 games for * (cv=0.16-a Coc:7): 13x coc_dpeg, 10x coc_grunt, 10x coc_old, 7x coc_hangedman, 2x coc_mu 23:07:22 fair enough 23:07:27 just mu's then really 23:07:44 I think part of it may be that mu is so big and things get diffuse 23:07:48 !lg * cv=0.16-a Coc:7 s=map,kmap 23:07:49 42 games for * (cv=0.16-a Coc:7): 13x coc_dpeg (7x coc_dpeg, 6x), 10x coc_old (8x coc_old, 2x), 10x coc_grunt (7x coc_grunt, 3x), 7x coc_hangedman (4x, 3x coc_hangedman), 2x coc_mu (coc_mu, ) 23:07:56 grunt's is large too but maybe he's placed stuff differently 23:08:15 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:30 !lg * current trunk coc:7 s=ikiller 23:08:30 42 games for * (current trunk coc:7): 18x Antaeus, 6x the Serpent of Hell, 5x, 4x the effects of Hell, 3x an Ice Fiend, a shard shrike, nznznm's ghost, an elemental wellspring, an alligator zombie, an anaconda simulacrum, notcluie's ghost 23:08:39 dang SoH 23:08:44 notcluie's ghost 23:08:50 that was bloax iirc 23:09:02 well, I did kinda twist it side-ways 23:09:38 !lg * current trunk coc:7 ikiller= s=ckiller 23:09:39 5 games for * (current trunk coc:7 ikiller=): 2x something, starvation, quitting, water 23:09:44 dying to an alligator zombie on coc:7 23:09:46 !lg * current trunk coc:7 ikiller= ckiller=something 1 23:09:46 !lg * current trunk coc:7 ikiller= ckiller=something 2 23:09:47 inglorious end 23:09:48 1/2. agentgt the Demon Slayer (L27 FoHe of The Shining One), killed by the effects of Hell on Coc:7 (coc_dpeg) on 2014-08-21 04:42:56, with 633336 points after 64655 turns and 6:49:40. 23:09:49 2. Blomdor the Axe Maniac (L27 MiBe of Trog), killed by the effects of Hell on Coc:7 (coc_grunt) on 2014-11-11 21:21:01, with 920329 points after 84941 turns and 6:36:42. 23:09:50 there's only three or four real hubs of opposition in it, and design-wise it's purposefully as open as heck? 23:10:11 yeah, not to mention a lot of people know the shortcuts, although you don't always get those 23:11:27 oh I was talking about coc_grunt 23:11:33 oh 23:12:18 I think with coc_mu you basically have to go looking for the trouble that's there 23:12:22 in the little side-rooms 23:12:23 the chokepointy corridors near the end defang a bunch 23:13:51 two ice fiends is also rather low on antaeus accompaniment 23:15:10 four in coc_old and coc_grunt, 3.75 + blizzard demons in coc_hangedman, and the two ice statues and two wellsprings are kinda not remotely close 23:16:11 hmm 23:17:08 !lg * cv=0.16-a place=Dis:7 s=map 23:17:09 45 games for * (cv=0.16-a place=Dis:7): 13x dis_st, 10x dis_hangedman, 8x iron_city_of_dis; dis_grunt, 5x, 3x iron_city_of_dis; dis_mu, 3x iron_city_of_dis; dis_old, iron_city_of_dis; dis_wall_8, iron_city_of_dis; dis_wall_6, iron_city_of_dis; dis_wall_7 23:17:48 !lg * cv=0.16-a place=Geh:7 s=map 23:17:48 46 games for * (cv=0.16-a place=Geh:7): 12x geh_hangedman, 11x evilmike_geh, 10x geh_grunt, 7x geh_old, 6x geh_mu 23:17:56 !lg * cv=0.16-a place=Tar:7 s=map 23:17:57 17 games for * (cv=0.16-a place=Tar:7): 5x tar_grunt_ereshkigal, 5x tar_minmay_river, 3x tar_old, 2x tar_mu, tar_grunt_decor_4, 23:18:06 * theTower sighs 23:18:19 Crash after resizing terminal window 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9332 by jschuster 23:18:20 poor Ereshkigal 23:18:29 (poor shadow fiends) 23:18:35 poor shadow demons 23:18:45 poor tar_old and tar_mu designs 23:22:02 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:23:12 human zombie (07Z) | Spd: 11 | HD: 20 | HP: 153-190 | AC/EV: 8/10 | Dam: 8 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(26), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 843 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 23:23:12 %??killer klown zombie 23:23:17 caustic shrike skeleton (15Z) | Spd: 18 | HD: 17 | HP: 102-133 | AC/EV: 4/11 | Dam: 36 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(22), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1299 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 23:23:17 %??caustic shrike skeleton 23:23:24 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-3160-g1f26642: add penance warnings for attacking with banned weapons 10(9 minutes ago, 6 files, 41+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1f26642a486d 23:23:26 spectral titan (03Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 107-137 | AC/EV: 12/0 | Dam: 5113(drain) | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1260 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 23:23:26 %??spectral titan 23:23:34 03PleasingFungus02 07[fancyhell] * 0.16-a0-3161-g1719995: Merge branch 'master' into fancyhell 10(11 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=171999525af4 23:23:34 03PleasingFungus02 07[fancyhell] * 0.16-a0-3162-gc6b3cec: Allow variation of fiend types for hell effects 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6b3cec74de2 23:23:34 03PleasingFungus02 07[fancyhell] * 0.16-a0-3163-g1ab0d36: Move Cocytus's hell effects to the correct place 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ab0d3610bd8 23:23:39 -!- Evablue has quit [Quit: Evablue] 23:24:13 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3159-g1b9e691 (34) 23:24:23 really, keeping dis's random_demon_greater 23:24:30 haven't decided what it should be 23:24:37 the obvious answer is 1s 23:24:42 tbh I'm wondering if I should just push this branch; it seems like it'd probably be an improvement over the current situation 23:24:54 (maybe with an extra weight over executioners to not completely flood) 23:25:47 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:26:22 does dis need to be more lethal 23:27:33 does dis need green death, loro, and hell beast drops 23:28:44 idk 23:28:51 loros can be unpleasant. 23:29:17 !lm * current trunk br.enter=coc|dis|tar|geh s=noun / lg:br=$noun 23:29:18 177/3033 milestones for * (current trunk br.enter=coc|dis|tar|geh): 59/759x Geh [7.77%], 53/776x Dis [6.83%], 46/751x Coc [6.13%], 19/747x Tar [2.54%] 23:30:09 !lm * current trunk br.enter s=noun / lg:br=$noun o=% 23:30:18 go sequell go 23:30:26 17911/153609 milestones for * (current trunk br.enter): 28/28x D [100.00%], 5468/18318x Lair [29.85%], 834/4001x Snake [20.84%], 659/3526x Shoals [18.69%], 910/5061x Vaults [17.98%], 672/3909x Swamp [17.19%], 627/3903x Spider [16.06%], 1899/12481x Orc [15.22%], 757/5391x Elf [14.04%], 646/4686x Depths [13.79%], 567/4275x Bailey [13.26%], 314/2774x Slime [11.32%], 833/7372x IceCv [11.30%], 123/1112... 23:30:34 -!- eb has quit [] 23:31:15 !lm * cv=0.16-a br.enter xl>18 s=noun / lg:br=$noun o=% 23:31:16 100% death rate if you enter D 23:31:25 2276/32121 milestones for * (cv=0.16-a br.enter xl>18): 426/2877x Vaults [14.81%], 120/1106x Tomb [10.85%], 355/3510x Depths [10.11%], 517/5630x Pan [9.18%], 234/2862x Zot [8.18%], 171/2176x Slime [7.86%], 58/758x Geh [7.65%], 53/777x Dis [6.82%], 46/752x Coc [6.12%], 12/227x Swamp [5.29%], 11/211x Snake [5.21%], 25/550x Shoals [4.55%], 86/2109x Elf [4.08%], 93/2350x Crypt [3.96%], 6/189x Spider [... 23:31:40 oh should do !boring as well but w/e 23:32:49 pleasingfungus: would it be too much to put blizzard demons into the generic coc spawn list 23:32:55 !lm * br.enter=d 1 x=src 23:32:56 1/238. [2009-09-28 13:13:09] [src=cdo] evktalo the Poker (L7 TeWn) entered a treasure trove on turn 7110. (D:7) 23:33:08 !lm * current trunk br.enter=d 1 x=src 23:33:09 1/28. [2014-11-26 08:57:15] [src=cpo] FishServ the Chopper (L6 DDGl) entered the realm of Mnoleg on turn 1334. (D:4) 23:33:13 ...actually that list has tormentor and reaper why doesn't it have blizzard demon 23:33:13 theTower: the hell effect minor spawns list, or the mon-pick list? 23:33:21 oh 23:33:21 hell effect 23:33:22 I think I forgot 23:33:28 tisk, tisk 23:33:49 what?! what are we paying you for then?! 23:33:50 they're not much but hopefully they're a _little_ better than blue devil and flying skull demons 23:33:51 what indeed 23:33:53 hm 23:33:57 ...flying skull demons 23:34:08 idk, flying skulls are some of the more notable chaff on that list 23:34:10 since noise 23:34:19 * Grunt gives a hideous shriek! 23:34:40 didn't I route around the list and find that shriek isn't actually that loud when I was making hue shab tea 23:35:05 plausible 23:35:12 03PleasingFungus02 07[fancyhell] * 0.16-a0-3164-gb91bfdb: Add some blizzard demons to minor coc effct spawns 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b91bfdb97852 23:35:19 erp 23:35:21 too compressed... 23:35:22 effct 23:35:23 up 23:35:31 effct 23:35:32 dang 23:35:35 * Grunt compresses PleasingFungus!!!!!!!!!!!1 23:35:37 er 23:35:42 A Compression Fiend comes into view. 23:35:59 what else does it do 23:36:09 it triggers a force_more 23:36:12 -!- _aardvark has quit [] 23:36:13 like you would not *believe* 23:37:03 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc#l1155 23:37:38 fr S_GONG 23:37:46 S_SHOUT2 23:37:49 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:38:07 so, flying skulls do not actually make more noise: I guess the comparsion point is just that plain zombies and such don't emote? 23:38:20 s_shout2 is obviously for two-headeds 23:39:46 btw 23:39:52 if anyone can figure out where S_VERY_LOUD etc are used 23:39:54 I would appreciate it 23:40:06 oh 23:40:11 or I might have asked this before and someone answered 23:40:15 my memory feels shakey 23:40:31 1233 bool mons_is_ghost_demon(monster_type mc) 23:40:34 ugh 23:40:54 s_very_loud is a badly named SCREAM 23:41:03 * Grunt screams at the greater mummy! 23:41:15 ...except, of course, that line is You hear a hideous shriek! 23:41:25 but it's listed as scream too 23:41:47 I'm just not sure it's ever used... 23:41:51 so it is actually louder? 23:42:29 a grep seems to point at it 23:42:56 ...okay I give up this is a headache 23:47:25 -!- Evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:58:02 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:59:41 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev