00:00:45 -!- cr0ne_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02:11 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-3066-g1eedcb1: Small edits to elephant tiles. 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1eedcb17e096 00:02:21 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:04:09 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3065-g83c6b19 (34) 00:08:01 53417 | Elf:2 | Faosuhi (ally) was killed the pandemonium lord 00:08:07 spot the problem 00:08:22 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:16 !tell roctavian don't forget Nellie... 00:13:16 Grunt: OK, I'll let roctavian know. 00:19:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:14 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:22:33 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:25:43 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:29:33 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:39:18 so when can ozo's armour be changed to work like repel missiles 00:40:17 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:42:54 Lucy giveth, and Lucy taketh away 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9317 by _jordan_ 00:44:12 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:45:44 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:44 The build was broken. (monsterspelldesc - 1a3bc8a #1061 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/43557402 00:45:44 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:49:20 -!- Atomikkrab is now known as Bedkrab 00:50:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:53:23 -!- Johny_ has quit [Client Quit] 01:00:00 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:01:28 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:02:22 ominating for best bug subject 01:02:40 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:06:06 -!- AlexM___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:07:51 -!- Xeiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:08:01 -!- Terrador has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:10:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:13:31 -!- ruwin has quit [] 01:25:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:32 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:26:37 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:32:36 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:33:45 After abandoning gozag, closed shop items still appear in ^F 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9318 by chequers 01:34:44 fr: god mollification should be an always_more message 01:35:06 -!- SSG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:40:21 !tell PleasingFungus you mentinoend that you thought of a good implementable (but I don't see it??? I leave a screen session open so i might have) (I also didn't look hard). 01:40:21 ebering: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:41:08 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 01:45:54 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:51:33 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:57:11 ??stone arrow 01:57:11 stone arrow[1/1]: A level 3 earth/conjuration spell. Found in the book of Geomancy, starting book for EEs. Does 3d11 dmg at max power. Does massive damage from ghosts for some reason. 02:03:40 my guess is that "for some reason" is that monster spells don't have a power cap 02:04:00 (and the player spell has a pretty low one) 02:04:30 Invalid spell slot format: 'stone arrow,lehudib's crystal spear' in 'stone_arrow,lehudib's_crystal_spear' 02:04:30 %??ancient lich spells:stone_arrow,lehudib's_crystal_spear 02:04:37 Invalid spell slot format: 'stone arrow' in 'stone_arrow;lehudib's_crystal_spear' 02:04:37 %??ancient lich spells:stone_arrow;lehudib's_crystal_spear 02:04:55 oh yeah that 02:04:56 ancient lich (16L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-129 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5968 | Sp: stone arrow (3d37) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 02:04:56 %??ancient lich spells:stone_arrow.12.wizard,lehudib's_crystal_spear.12.wizard 02:05:07 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:05:07 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:05:25 ancient lich (16L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 27 | HP: 90-129 | AC/EV: 20/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 6513 | Sp: crystal spear (3d48) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 02:05:25 %??ancient lich spells:lehudib's_crystal_spear.12.wizard 02:12:40 -!- schistosoma has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:13:19 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 02:17:08 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 02:19:32 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:20:47 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 02:23:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3066-g1eedcb1 (34) 02:24:46 is it considered a problem that everyone basically completes the game in the same order? 02:25:29 ie ??order 02:27:57 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:32:34 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35:49 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:16 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:37:30 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:41:55 -!- Bedkrab has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:59 well, the rune lock and Depths were meant to make the order less problematic 02:44:57 and with incidental efforts to Vaults there's a vague alternative of slime and abyss 02:46:13 there's not much that can be done about the order without either scaling branches (which is a nightmare and a half to produce), balancing out a bunch more branches (likewise), or making optional branches something between more enticing and less motonous (see elf and crypt) 02:46:28 (...see forest >_>) 02:46:39 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:46:55 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:46:59 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:34 I would rather work on branches in and of themselves before trying to think more about what would entail more choices as that will incidentally change some of the related contexts and balances (e.g. giving slime more variety might make it less plausible for those without specific vaguely-abusive tools or sacrifice >_>) 02:50:46 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:54:11 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:00:24 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:53 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:11:22 -!- Calisca2 is now known as Calisca 03:20:08 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:20:08 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:20:39 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:21:40 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:21:54 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:22:49 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:25:20 ??irridate 03:25:20 irridate ~ irradiate[1/2]: L5 Tm/Cj. Does nontrivial damage to all adjacent enemies, at the cost of significant contam (zero to yellow in 2-4 casts). 03:25:41 ??irridate [2] 03:25:41 irridate ~ irradiate[2/2]: [dis astranagant] It's like Iron Shot, but with even less range and a chance to give you cancer. 03:32:27 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:44:24 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:59:44 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:01:49 -!- alefury has quit [] 04:02:09 !tell PleasingFungus That snail vault was mean 04:02:10 Lightli: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 04:18:12 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:22:19 Well, one of the main resources is xp and every branch provides it 04:22:41 Also the branches tend to generate the same consumables, and to a lesser extent wearables 04:26:29 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 04:29:42 -!- AlexM___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:36:16 -!- Pepe has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 04:40:55 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:47:37 -!- us17 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:02:08 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 05:09:27 -!- Surr has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:10:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:19:41 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:23:53 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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Use !messages to read them. 09:09:09 template 09:09:09 static void unmarshall_vector(reader& th, vector& vec, 09:09:09 function T_unmarshall) 09:09:33 I don't see a constructor that takes an actual function, so you would have to create a std::function from the actual function and pass that? 09:10:23 hm, I am confused, never mind 09:10:24 <|amethyst> geekosaur: function has a constructor taking a function pointer though 09:10:54 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:54 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:00 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 09:12:14 <|amethyst> hm... I guess it's not looking for constructors when trying to template substitute? 09:12:22 <|amethyst> quick fix: 09:12:29 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:12:53 <|amethyst> template static void unmarshall_vector(reader& th, vector& vec, U T_unmarshall) 09:13:55 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:37 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:43 -!- wheals has quit [Changing host] 09:17:44 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:58 will try 09:18:29 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:49 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:23:45 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 09:23:55 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:25:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37:50 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:32 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:44:28 -!- Wendol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:46:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3067-gcfcf13d: Don't treat a shop with "trap" in the name as a trap (wheals) 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cfcf13dd8b85 09:46:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3068-g762a069: Refactor keyed_mapspec::parse_feature. 10(18 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=762a069b6086 09:46:03 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3069-g0ce9952: Reinforce that DNGN_UNSEEN should be 0. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0ce99526dd76 09:49:01 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:45 |amethyst: I'm interested in getting a wulndraste experimental branch up at some point. Can I interest you as well? 09:50:48 -!- bmuk is now known as Guest1936 09:51:37 -!- Lantell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:51:47 -!- codehero has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:51:51 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:28 !source potion_effect 09:52:28 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/xom.cc;hb=HEAD#l1064 09:52:45 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:52:52 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:53:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:30 where's potion_effect? 09:54:14 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:54:24 ebering: yeah I've already forgotten what the implementable was :( 09:54:24 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:54:30 that's what I get for not writing it down 09:54:51 it was a really good one, probably 09:55:02 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:04 hm, was it removed? 09:55:18 there's potionlike_effect 09:55:20 i was going to complain about there being doxygen for @param from_fountain 09:55:23 what are you trying to do? 09:55:35 when we started using doxygen long after fountain effects were removed 09:55:37 !lg * kmap~~pf_ 09:55:38 8. osklington the Whirler (L13 HaHu of Okawaru), mangled by an eight-headed hydra (kmap: pf_torpor_hydra) on Lair:5 on 2014-11-24 01:31:32, with 24796 points after 19301 turns and 3:49:56. 09:55:47 Lightli: good! 09:57:15 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:01:07 Lasty_: I can do experimentals too. for the half dozen cbro players 10:02:18 johnstein: Sweet! Wanna do a wulndraste one? Keep in mind that compiling it 64 bit causes a strange and fatal bug . . . 10:02:46 is that different than trunk? 10:04:34 yeah, trunk compiles fine 64 bit 10:04:46 <|amethyst> Lasty_: yes, probably will have time this weekend 10:05:35 |amethyst: Great! Thanks! 10:06:39 is the name finalized? I keep fumbling when I try to say it 10:06:48 Have to keep 10:06:53 !glasses 10:06:54 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 10:06:58 backtracking 10:07:06 idk 10:07:18 I pronounce it wooln drass tey 10:07:20 which seems simple enough 10:07:30 vuln drasty 10:07:39 possibly the first syllable should be "vuln", yeah 10:07:39 johnstein: I dunno. Grunt seemed very attached to it, and I didn't feel very attached to any of the other names I or others suggested, so . . . probably final name. 10:07:52 Rick James! 10:07:52 it's acceptable to me (rip rick james) 10:08:05 heg 10:08:07 I hear it as "Vooln-drahs-teh" 10:08:07 heh 10:08:51 I'll just call it "Rick" like everyone uses "Lucy" 10:09:50 ricky ricardo 10:12:27 PleasingFungus: rip 10:12:45 I'll remember three months from now in the middle of the night 10:12:49 "oh, of course!" 10:13:31 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:25:32 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 10:32:40 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3070-g6792f5f: Trim a horrifying wall of text 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6792f5f5eac3 10:39:02 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 10:41:10 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:46:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:47:29 -!- endou_____ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:51:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:56:47 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:30 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:04:21 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:07:16 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:39 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:16:35 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:00 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:20:28 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:26:35 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-3070-g6792f5f (34) 11:26:40 mouse support is totally broken on OSX 11:26:46 It works bizarrely and inconsistently 11:28:12 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29:20 yes, but weren't we talking about mouse support specifically? :P 11:39:16 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:39:55 were we? 11:40:55 I've heard other reports of os x mouse brokenness - I'll check the next time I remember. Not sure what I can do about it, though - I have no experience with the sdl2 code. Might be a question for gammafunk. 11:41:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:21 word 11:43:26 just makin some noise about it 11:43:27 ;) 11:44:05 i have to use mouse commands :( 11:45:41 I commented on the same bugs at one point and gave specific examples. but I'm no GUI programmer, much less SDL, and in any case even when I play tiles I use console commands :p 11:53:24 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:58:48 how long has this been an issue? I was assuming it was a post-SDL2 thing? 11:59:01 afaik it showed up with the sdl2 port, yes 12:00:37 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:38 aight 12:01:23 since when is "i keep fumbling when i try to say it" a valid critique of names in crawl anyway 12:04:55 i imagine anyone who said that would easily fall into an 12:04:58 asstrap 12:05:13 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 12:06:13 (doy: I was just trying to setup my bad pun) 12:06:36 now I want Mxyzptlk (or maybe Kltpzyxm) as a randart name 12:08:34 (: 12:11:54 PleasingFungus: Yeah, showed up after sdl2 12:12:07 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:21:58 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Changing host] 12:33:54 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3071-g3f2ece7: Simplify. 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 10+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f2ece7b0e99 12:33:54 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3072-g3c7236e: Add an 'item_slot' option (#9275). 10(48 minutes ago, 7 files, 72+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c7236ec6793 12:33:54 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3073-gc12816a: Make a function static. 10(28 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c12816a777c2 12:33:54 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-3074-gc0bb631: #define a magic position. 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0bb6312e26f 12:35:20 -!- dis- has quit [Quit: Please verify suicide by typing '@' sign] 12:39:51 Does swamp still exist in trunk? I haven't seen it in ages on CDO 12:40:13 yes. 12:44:57 -!- SSG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:49:03 -!- Ipsum has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:57:10 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:55 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:02:49 -!- somebody1 is now known as somebody 13:04:39 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:05:49 the third branch burned down, fell over, and then sank into Swamp 13:06:00 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:51 for the record, "Wulndraste" -> "vuln drast" to me (two syllables) 13:28:34 reasonable 13:29:28 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:22 !send pwnmonkey unreasonable stubbornness 13:30:22 Sending unreasonable stubbornness to pwnmonkey. 13:30:30 er 13:30:31 hi 13:30:36 Hey 13:30:53 !send PleasingFungus unreasonable stubbornness 13:30:53 Sending unreasonable stubbornness to PleasingFungus. 13:30:59 wrong target, rip 13:31:01 Haha, what does that mean 13:31:07 * Grunt slinks back out in shame. 13:31:20 tab-completed again 13:31:24 ??grunt[tab 13:31:24 grunt[6/27]: Is not Gretell, despite what many zealous tabbers seem to think. 13:33:06 !learn add wulndraste for the record, "Wulndraste" -> "vuln drast" to me (two syllables) 13:33:07 wulndraste[4/4]: for the record, "Wulndraste" -> "vuln drast" to me (two syllables) 13:35:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:35:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:18 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:45:37 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:48 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 13:46:09 I vaguely miss people messaging me instead of henzell 13:46:12 -!- DoctorMedShoals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:46:33 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 13:46:46 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:46:47 alas 13:48:01 need a bot with T 13:48:27 Thaumiell 13:48:53 theTowell 13:49:13 ontoclasm: oh, throw it in already. 13:50:02 i need it to use my intrinsic esp 13:52:14 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:56:58 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:00:40 we should get a new york school to host a crawl server 14:00:41 Cornell 14:01:10 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:18:00 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:31 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:23:20 -!- Wendol has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:25:29 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:27:31 -!- eliana has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:17 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:29:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:43 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:34:05 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:36:04 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:37:36 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 14:38:30 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:39:38 .crushed -tv 14:39:39 83. rjrrt, XL21 MfBe, T:50602 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:42:13 .crushed -tv:<3:channel=crushed 14:42:14 83. rjrrt, XL21 MfBe, T:50602 requested for crushed: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:43:43 .crushed -tv:<3:channel=crushed:cancel 14:43:43 83. rjrrt, XL21 MfBe, T:50602 cancel requested for crushed: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:43:45 .crushed -tv:<3:channel=crushed 14:43:46 83. rjrrt, XL21 MfBe, T:50602 requested for crushed: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 14:45:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:15 !crush gammafunk 14:46:15 PleasingFungus hammers gammafunk like a gong!!! 14:46:24 some bad MiBeing 14:46:28 er Mfbeing 14:52:40 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:44 -!- serq has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:02:50 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:05 -!- PolkaDot has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:11 I have to add some wulndraste bikeshed complications: the main god in the dragon age games is called "andraste" 15:07:41 I don't necessarily think that means it should be changed 15:08:05 -!- Kooz has quit [Client Quit] 15:08:15 But I figured it should be considered 15:08:22 roctavian: somebody in ##crawl pointed out the same thing 15:08:29 and !told grunt 15:09:28 I wonder if there are any name similiarities with the other gods 15:09:51 there's askhenazi, at minimum 15:10:01 erm, ashkenazi 15:10:18 the Warcraft universe has Troggs 15:10:48 and as I understand it, Trog would approve of them 15:11:20 I generally don't think it's a big deal, but sometimes it is good to anticipate dumb stuff that players can get fixated on 15:12:00 (sometimes) 15:12:07 sure 15:12:26 I'm not personally invested in the Wulndraste name, so I'll let any interested parties duke it out 15:12:30 rick james waits, ever patient for xhis moment... 15:12:56 ah, yes, of course, when worried about name similarities we should 15:13:12 -!- kipster has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:16:45 hm. an unrelated thought. theTower, do you know that vault that has a nine piles of gold surrounded by a square of plants? 15:17:36 good old weapon enchantemnt check vault 15:17:56 heh 15:18:43 I'm trying to decide if it should exist, and if so, whether it should have fungi rather than plants, for reduced tedium. 15:18:44 fungus (15P) | Spd: 070 | HD: 8 | HP: 33-55 | AC/EV: 1/0 | 03plant | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 15:18:44 %??fungus 15:18:47 plant (03P) | Spd: 070 | HD: 10 | HP: 43-68 | AC/EV: 10/0 | 03plant | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 0 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 15:18:47 %??plant 15:18:53 kvaak: I always thought of it as more of a "how many times are you willing to push a movement key without having anything change" test 15:19:17 in a game with a tight food clock and better automation, it would be a very good vault. 15:19:17 that too 15:20:08 also "autofight_stop doesn't work against plants" vault 15:23:21 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:26:31 pleasingfungus: fungi sounds best, I guess 15:26:53 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:27:02 it's sort of a weird vault even with fungi, but "breaking open a vault for treasure" is fun, even if the vault is made of fungi. 15:27:06 it is an appreciably straightforward and memorable gimmick decoration, but when one even wa 15:27:09 yeah 15:27:29 -!- Nunya has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:39 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:13 -!- roctavian has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:28:21 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:29 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:31:23 so then... 15:31:39 PleasingFungus is recommending we replace plants with fungi 15:31:45 I say that he's biased 15:31:45 I feel good about it. 15:31:47 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:59 heh 15:32:03 I was already planning the commit message 15:32:11 "replace plants with a more pleasing alternative" 15:32:52 watch as he replaces them with wandering mushrooms 15:32:58 +1 15:33:00 Woo! Free XP! 15:33:14 watch as he replaces them with deathcaps 15:33:16 no joke, the wandering mushrooms in a lab 15:33:31 And fedhas altars. 15:33:33 may have allowed my really underleveled/early turncount HESu to kill the mino 15:33:44 oh, haha 15:33:45 entered have just learned spire, not even levels for g. golem 15:33:54 and found like 5 of those and had a polearm 15:34:23 if only I could put catoblepae in labs again 15:34:35 that would have been ok as well 15:34:39 catoblepas (06Y) | Spd: 8 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-92 | AC/EV: 10/2 | Dam: 36 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 799 | Sp: petrifying cloud (2d6) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 15:34:39 %??catoblepas 15:34:45 wandering mushroom (07f) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 31-58 | AC/EV: 5/0 | Dam: 2013(confuse) | 03plant | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 312 | Sz: tiny | Int: plant. 15:34:45 %??wandering_mushroom 15:34:58 not as much as I got, but pretty good 15:35:06 well, dodging their breath in lab circumstances is uh 15:35:15 summons don't care really 15:35:23 yeah, fair 15:35:35 at least there's... unseen horrors? 15:35:42 oh that would be bad 15:35:47 Gargoyles can spawn in lab 15:35:52 they're pretty nasty 15:35:57 * theTower coughs 15:36:04 yeah for my char only unseens would have been a problem 15:36:17 you didn't have canine familiar? 15:36:21 I guess I can keep solace in unseens yeah 15:36:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:36:37 yeah c. familiar alone might pull it off if I don't get all hounds 15:36:45 maybe even with hounds, if it's in a corridor 15:37:06 yeah actually you're right, I can block with e.g. spire or w/e 15:37:17 out in the open it's not good, but labs aren't that 15:37:31 yeah 15:37:34 you can get a unseen and two gargoyles, or two unseens, currently 15:37:46 I'd rather get two unseens on most characters 15:38:03 gargoyles can randomly do huge damage if you get bad rolls 15:38:32 earth elemental, minotaur skeleton, trapdoor spider, shadow, unseen horror, hungry ghost, wandering mushroom, gargoyle, basilisk, troll / centaur / spriggan / orge skeleton 15:38:36 ... 15:38:38 oh 15:38:39 I'm thinking of back when I did HEIE going straight to vaults, and only had ice beast; then unseens were among the worst things you could run into (cent. warriors maybe being the worst) 15:38:42 hey you jerks removed a reason for lab centaur skeletons 15:38:44 But with Su you have c. familiar 15:38:47 that reminds me to remove that really stupid lab vault 15:38:55 the one with the minotaur skeleton inside a lava moat 15:39:01 and even then unseens are not a thing I encounter before entering a branch 15:39:10 oh but free looooot 15:39:20 labyrinth_lava_lair? yeah, it can die 15:39:36 could alternately remove the skeleton and keep the free loot; more incentive to explore! 15:39:37 it's not variety anymore or anything 15:39:43 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:39:44 or some part of the loot 15:39:45 idk 15:39:46 pff 15:39:53 obviously replace with statue 15:39:56 well, I guess the only thing is "heh, do you have flight" 15:40:03 or blink 15:40:06 or apport 15:40:11 yeah that as well 15:40:11 mm 15:40:15 ti's not a great gimmick I guess 15:40:15 blink is questionable 15:40:23 why? 15:40:33 It's not very hard to spam blink until you get in 15:40:37 like, I mean, "do you have flight or apport" is an okay question to ask 15:40:39 esp in a lab 15:40:44 oh, well 15:40:46 where you can't go out and fetch a book or potion or w/e 15:40:50 but what lasty said wrt blink. 15:40:57 I'm not sure that they're valid questions to ask really 15:41:14 There are enough different ways to get in that most characters will be able to 15:41:38 And I specifically hold onto any flying/blinking I might have for labs because of vaults like that 15:41:41 heh 15:41:43 molten gargoyle (059) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 24-41 | AC/EV: 14/7 | Dam: 2004(fire:7-13) | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(60), 04fire+++, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 430 | Sp: b.magma (3d15) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:41:43 %??molten gargoyle 15:41:54 probably too much 15:42:01 I do wonder about characters who might end up somehow trapped there 15:42:10 that would be very scary in a lab 15:42:10 oh, b. magma 15:42:10 lindwurm (09k) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 37-62 | AC/EV: 8/6 | Dam: 20, 10, 10 | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 640 | Sp: fire breath (3d18) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Large | Int: reptile. 15:42:10 %??lindwurm 15:42:12 gargoyle (159) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-33 | AC/EV: 18/6 | Dam: 20 | 11non-living, 10items, 10doors, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 415 | Sp: stone arrow (3d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:42:12 %?? gargoyle 15:42:26 less defenses, because they're meltinggggggg 15:42:28 there are already a couple of vaults that do lindwurm + lava moat 15:42:46 notably 15:42:46 I think lindwurm is really pushing it for lab 15:42:47 .elrank 15:42:49 1265 games for * (br=lair lvl>2 lvl<8 kmap!~entry kmap!~uniq kmap!~special_ kmap!~altar kmap!=): 73x gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake, 73x bobbens_ice_dragon_lair, 57x ice2_lemuel, 48x dpeg_oklob_gauntlet, 47x dragon1_lemuel, 42x forest_paths, 41x minmay_lindwurm_lava, 36x minmay_lair_drake_nest, 35x kilobyte_rumbling_trees, 33x grunt_megastairs_2, 33x worms_lemuel, 31x minmay_lair_end_frog_pond, 30x... 15:42:50 at least the lindwurm can't fly 15:42:54 would rather lava snake 15:42:59 minmay_lindwurm_lava 15:43:05 also w00t tied for 1st 15:43:13 * theTower rolls his cores 15:43:22 theTower: also it would be pushing it for a lab, yes 15:43:35 could have a lava snake or two. they're a dying breed, you know. 15:43:37 lava snake (04S) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 11-23 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 704(fire:3-5) | Res: 06magic(10), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 48 | Sz: small | Int: reptile. 15:43:37 %??lava snake 15:43:43 ...gasp 15:43:46 hm. don't they have a spit? 15:43:49 don't want to put things in there that are maybe more dangerous than a mino 15:43:50 that's really not spellified?? 15:44:01 weird as h*ck 15:44:07 unknown monster: "magma worm" 15:44:07 %0.14?magma worm 15:44:09 hm 15:44:12 what am I thinking of 15:44:30 lava snakes do have fire spit -- or at least did. 15:44:34 lava worms and lava fish are dead 15:44:43 lava snake (04S) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-24 | AC/EV: 2/17 | Dam: 704(fire:3-5) | !sil | Res: 06magic(12), 04fire+++ | Vul: 12cold | XP: 48 | Sp: g.lava (3d10) | Sz: small | Int: reptile. 15:44:43 %0.15?lava snake 15:44:47 I 15:44:49 wonder 15:44:57 if someone accidentally broke lava snakes 15:45:02 looks like 15:45:09 hmm, is it chei or is it mon-spell-slots or is it neither 15:45:23 testing 15:45:58 ahahaha 15:46:01 someone _did_ 15:46:07 rip 15:46:07 rip 15:46:10 <3 15:46:15 any idea when? 15:46:27 well I would suspect said mon-spell-slots 15:46:51 anyway, while those are broken, clearly the answer is 15:46:53 fire crab (04t) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 39-66 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 1504(fire:8-15), 1504(fire:8-15) | Res: 06magic(40), 04fire+++ | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 778 | Sp: flaming cloud (d12) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: insect. 15:46:53 %??fire crab 15:47:03 heh 15:47:15 could randomly choose (fire crab, lava worm(s), nothing) 15:47:17 variety is good 15:47:21 what's a lava worm 15:47:25 er 15:47:26 lava snake 15:47:35 pedantry! 15:47:45 fr bring back thorn lotuses but put them on lava 15:48:30 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:40 I am still not convinced that thorn lotii were bad monsters 15:48:54 lava eel 15:49:22 honestly, you can't remove lotuses without saying early eels and lava snakes should go first 15:49:22 -!- Nunya has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 15:49:25 here: l. eel, a 15:49:32 theTower: and yet...! 15:49:46 I bet some people writhe from hellsprings 15:49:52 oh, sure 15:49:54 tabstorm, for one 15:50:11 I will buff their actual damage some time later 15:50:13 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:50:14 Lotii also had that confused movement weirdness 15:50:25 I was not big fan of how thorn lotii moved around when you attacked them with ranged or with allies 15:50:26 well, it's drifting on the water 15:50:44 I found it funny that people got paranoid about them actively running away though 15:50:53 Thematically, fine, but in practive, just sort of obnoxious 15:50:56 well, that was a tswamp Theme, clearly. Like vapours 15:50:58 Practice, too 15:51:05 pro-active? 15:51:16 protractive 15:51:25 pro-active annoying movement 15:52:10 thorn lotus (06P) | Spd: 8 (move: 160%) | HD: 11 | HP: 41-70 | AC/EV: 4/9 | 03plant, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 230 | Sp: v.thorns (3d15); v.thorns (3d15) | Sz: small | Int: plant. 15:52:10 %0.14?thorn lotus 15:52:24 nice repeat 15:53:03 I don't really care about the theme, but I liked that they were a relatively distinctive threat 15:53:12 idk 15:53:16 I don't get annoyed by things as easily, I guess 15:53:33 I blame this constant "playing" habit >_> 15:53:48 (keyword, constant) 15:53:49 lotii? d: 15:53:56 -!- TMTurtle_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:54:23 playing habit? 15:54:33 yeah how do you actually pluralize that 15:55:05 lotuses 15:55:21 In Quechau, I believe it's pluralized *lotula* 15:56:07 well you see there's this thing called burn-out and 15:56:52 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:57:13 well there's a thing called a bad idea and 15:57:13 -!- DrMedShoals has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:58:03 I suspect it's laziness more than anything else that swamp worms weren't cut yet 15:58:15 well 15:58:25 actually, it's because when reaverb was talking about it, I argued him out of it. 15:58:34 there is one very specific person you have to blame here 16:00:21 ...linley? 16:00:50 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:01:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:01:28 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:01:58 heh 16:02:19 hm. checking back as far as 9aa4d9bc6f48a9a2b81e7525b4ae142b60b11cbd , lava snakes have had MST_NO_SPELLS 16:02:31 and yet, MST_LAVA_SNAKE exists 16:03:34 oh, that makes vague sense 16:03:39 since it was done as an ability 16:04:12 hrm 16:04:14 well, w/e 16:04:17 should be trivial to wire it up 16:04:31 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:04:39 famous last words, but still.... 16:05:18 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:05:26 here we go 16:05:28 %git 0a3df14969b2dcdf37aaa5ead4471881766e27a2 16:05:28 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1037-g0a3df14: Turn conjuration-type monster special abilities into spells instead. 10(8 weeks ago, 12 files, 321+ 362-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a3df14969b2 16:05:34 !blame Grunt 16:05:34 I pronounce Grunt... Guilty! 16:07:04 see, this is exactly why I make so many small commits. 16:07:04 Too easy to miss things in larger commits. 16:07:07 One commit per line; that's the way to do it! 16:07:16 well you also make a lot of commits in general 16:08:51 s/mmit/mment 16:08:51 I make few, so when I do make them I've tested more 16:08:51 I'd not mind splitting them up but it's often just so easy to forget when you're fixing stuff 16:08:51 wheals: oh, that would be far too few. 16:08:51 *I don't 16:08:51 hm, as i understood it the point of piety hysteresis was to make stuff like #9317 not happen 16:08:51 At *least* two or three comments per line is a better ratio. 16:08:55 I think |amethyst is a pretty good commenter in terms of comments per line 16:09:05 wheals: piety hysteresis makes you gain piety over a number of turns, rather than all at once, yes? 16:09:24 i think so 16:09:24 maybe 16:09:24 i dunno what it really does 16:09:25 heh 16:09:31 that wouldn't prevent something like this, if you reach the piety breakpoint right at the end of the hysteresis period. 16:09:43 PleasingFungus: two or three comments per person editing that function 16:09:58 (per line, of course) 16:10:04 the only way to actually prevent this is to add more state to piety: gain an ability at (breakpoint + 5 piety), lose it at (breakpoint - 5 piety), something like that. 16:10:11 wheals: // Agreed. --pf 16:10:17 we should consider enabling images and youtube videos in comments 16:10:34 imo unicode support 16:10:55 // this function is 💩 16:10:55 comments in japanese as a way to force people to learn a foreign language 16:11:04 comments in python 16:11:07 finally, localization will be real... 16:11:25 comments in intercal 16:11:41 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:11:58 oh I had that workig in of Robin into the goblin vault I need to finish 16:12:12 the way I did it could use improvement, so let me go tidy that up and pastebin it 16:12:45 !tell wheals Implementation in intercal* 16:12:45 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 16:14:06 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:16:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:17:49 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:37 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:01 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 16:28:02 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:28 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:06 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:16 "the supporting goblins aren't used for Robin, since she has her own band." 16:33:46 is that a comment in a vault? 16:33:49 now I realize that Robin was meant to be like a hobgoblin version of Jem 16:33:55 ! 16:33:55 No players. 16:34:06 PleasingFungus: a comment I'm adding 16:34:24 be careful 16:34:29 theTower is deadly allergic to vault comments 16:34:31 I'm commenting a bit since the fungus demands it 16:34:36 heh. 16:34:38 also, wtf is devell 16:34:40 ??devell 16:34:40 I don't have a page labeled devell in my learndb. 16:34:50 !test 16:34:54 once a day, it reports "No players." 16:34:54 ! 16:34:55 No players. 16:35:03 it does in response to the ! command prefix 16:35:06 huh 16:35:13 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:35:45 PleasingFungus: I guess you go ! once a day 16:35:47 vault comments are fine when they're not obssessively explaining how anything works 16:36:03 yeah, this is some lua mojo (which may get reduced), so I'm adding a few 16:36:05 if I didn't love stupid vault comments then how would pleasuredrome's exist 16:36:17 flavor comments are not even the same category. 16:36:21 gammafunk: yeah that sounds about right 16:36:26 (re !) 16:36:26 ! 16:36:26 No players. 16:36:34 lua is different, nobody knows lua 16:36:35 good joke potential with this 16:36:53 & 16:37:02 % 16:37:07 not sure what Devell is, really 16:37:30 is there another sequell command prefix? 16:37:30 ? 16:37:38 ??sequell 16:37:38 sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell 16:37:43 ??sequell[2 16:37:43 sequell[2/4]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html lists user-defined keywords/commands/functions. 16:37:45 rust devell 16:37:49 heh 16:37:49 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:38:10 Devell is the announcement bot for this server: http://107.191.118.31:8080/#lobby 16:38:27 huh 16:38:33 it doesn't seem to have any players 16:38:50 (I don't remember who did it, someone was testing the docker of TZer0) 16:41:06 wulndrift 16:41:17 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:42:10 hm, last time I saw devell it was using _ as the prefix 16:42:13 -!- Cthulhu|Jho has joined ##crawl-dev 16:42:24 not that I've been watching closely and it's been a couple of days 16:42:34 _version 16:42:41 %version 16:42:41 trunk: 0.16-a0-3065-g83c6b19; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 16:42:51 seems it's some other kind of bot, or on another prefix 16:42:54 !version 16:42:57 trunk: 0.16-a0-3070-g6792f5f; 0.15: 0.15.2; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 16:43:14 +version 16:43:14 trunk: not found; 0.15: not found; 0.14: not found; 0.13: not found; 0.12: not found; 0.11: not found; 0.10: not found 16:43:22 ah, + 16:43:22 well, I'm hoping they did change it; _ seems like a bad idea especially if you're going to be in ##crawl where people sometimes paste output from crawl with the _ end-of-messages prefix... 16:43:31 also good crawl version 16:43:33 s 16:44:01 So, I've thought of a new lair monster: Goreillas 16:44:08 odd that it also response to a single ! 16:44:21 It's both punny, and representative to a kind of animal not seen in crawl 16:44:43 starting with the bikeshedding and theme, the more important part 16:45:11 Cthulhu|Jho: feel free to add it to ??todo_monsters 16:45:21 ??todo_monsters 16:45:21 todo monsters[1/17]: sloths, cassowaries, moas, hoatzin, locusts, paper wasps, bullet ants, mantis shrimp 16:45:24 haha 16:45:39 the bad news is that we are required to do that list in order 16:45:43 ?? learndb [8 16:45:43 learndb[8/9]: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/learndb.md 16:45:44 and we are just so stuck on sloths 16:45:51 ?? learndb [6 16:45:51 learndb[6/9]: "!learn query term" is approximately equivalent to ??term. Both forms support [$] for the last entry, or [-3] for the third from the end. 16:45:58 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 16:46:03 Dammit, I forget how to edit a article 16:46:04 being slothful about it? 16:46:12 ??todo_monsters[$ 16:46:12 todo monsters[17/17]: armadillo, axolotl, olm, alpacas + guard llamas, narwhal + four-legged land narwhal, platypus, stick bug, stink bug, coelacanths, pygmy elephant, hippo, rhino, pelican, nautilus, horseshoe crab, elephant shark, hammerhead shark 16:46:28 !learn e todo_monsters[17 s/$/, goreilla 16:46:28 todo monsters[17/17]: armadillo, axolotl, olm, alpacas + guard llamas, narwhal + four-legged land narwhal, platypus, stick bug, stink bug, coelacanths, pygmy elephant, hippo, rhino, pelican, nautilus, horseshoe crab, elephant shark, hammerhead shark, goreilla 16:46:33 lo, it is done. 16:46:38 :') 16:46:38 and bam 16:46:41 that's development 16:47:01 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:06 Are there any dinosaurs in-game? 16:47:17 ??todo_monsters[dinos 16:47:18 I don't have a page labeled todo_monsters[dinos in my learndb. 16:47:20 wut 16:47:26 ?/dinosaur 16:47:27 No matches. 16:47:44 I find that just about impossible to believe 16:47:51 But, why? 16:47:57 Why are there no Dinos! 16:47:58 ?/[Dd]inosaur 16:47:58 No matches. 16:48:01 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:04 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:48:05 wonder if it does use regexps 16:48:17 ?/[Cc]rusher 16:48:17 Matching terms (2): octopode_crusher, skullcrusher; entries (2): birdoprey[1]: Breaker of hearts; crusher of dreams. | skullcrusher[1]: The +3 giant club "Skullcrusher" {speed, Str+7}. 16:48:17 ok, it does 16:48:25 ?/CRUsher 16:48:25 Matching terms (2): octopode_crusher, skullcrusher; entries (2): birdoprey[1]: Breaker of hearts; crusher of dreams. | skullcrusher[1]: The +3 giant club "Skullcrusher" {speed, Str+7}. 16:48:34 yeah also case-insensitive but 16:48:44 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:57 you can force case sensitivity; I forget how 16:48:59 ?/stego 16:49:00 No matches. 16:49:04 ?/crush[^A-Za-z] 16:49:05 Matching entries (7): apropos_randarts[5] | empty_arch[1] | giant_spiked_club[2] | kyrris[3] | sky_weapons[3] | sky_weapons[6] | sky_weapons[11] 16:49:16 ??apropos_randards[5 16:49:17 apropos randards ~ apropos randarts[5/28]: the mace "Blugeona" {crush, +Blink +Inv rC+ rN+} 16:49:19 indeed 16:49:28 wait 16:49:29 wtf 16:49:33 -!- CcS has quit [] 16:49:39 what's wrong? 16:49:43 that was a valid match 16:49:51 !learn del apropos_randarts[28 16:49:51 Deleted apropos randarts[28/28]: the -7 pair of boots "Criar" {Str-3 Int+3} 16:49:57 oh 16:50:04 some people, god. 16:50:08 and yeah that was just terrible 16:50:17 well I guess it's *ok* 16:50:22 but not 28-worthy 16:50:26 27 is much better anyway 16:52:50 the only good way to get in more silly concepts for the sake of more silly concepts is for retheming 16:53:13 ?? sky weapon 16:53:14 sky weapons[1/17]: A - +2,+1 flail (protect) 16:53:24 ?? sky weapon [2 16:53:24 sky weapons[2/17]: M - +1,+5 sling of the New World {flame, rC++} 16:53:31 What are sky weapons? 16:53:39 theyre sky weapons 16:53:42 weapons that the player 'sky' would use 16:53:47 ?? sky 16:53:47 sky[1/16]: I last saw Sky__ at Sun Mar 23 22:26:25 2014 UTC (7w 5d 21h 16m 51s ago) saying 'my deflect missle spell doesn't go away. does it make me hunger lots or something' on ##crawl. 16:54:04 somebody who does the absolutely purest of pure conjurers 16:54:09 heh, sublimation is in basil's todo twice. 16:54:28 so much that he'd use, say, randarts that give resistances over just hitting things 16:54:34 aw, he wants to remove firewood_loft? that's messed up 16:54:44 "it breaks exploration!!!" 16:54:45 ?? firewood loft 16:54:45 I don't have a page labeled firewood_loft in my learndb. 16:54:56 ??sky[8 16:54:56 sky[8/16]: wowwwwwwww cleared elf and STILL no iron shot elf/orc/lair/ all cleared, no iron shot found. while worshiping sif this is going to be a hard game :\ Sky_, believe it or not the game is winnable without casting Iron Shot :) i know there's crystal spear :p 16:55:16 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:22 also, there's a pretty great tv of him; it might be sky[4, I forget 16:55:28 I wish there was some wrinkle to protection brand that made it better than all the other damages 16:55:28 ?? sky [10 16:55:29 sky[10/16]: i play caster if i'm 15 rune game, cuz there's a very good stratagy with lich from and crystal spear 16:55:34 ?? sky [111 16:55:34 I don't have a page labeled sky[111] in my learndb. 16:55:36 ?? sky [11 16:55:37 sky[11/16]: i use exclusions every game cuz i'm too lazy to find a second staircase so i go up 1 staircause, exlude it, and G> to the next] 16:56:03 even if it's just something stupid as "ac given scales with your weapon skill" 16:56:25 executioner axe of +13 ac 16:56:34 "better than all the other damages" seems kind of OP, TBQH. 16:56:46 It should give you shield and ac, because you can block with a weapon 16:56:51 okay, better phrasing 16:56:53 "competitive" 16:56:57 :) 16:57:05 low tier weapon choices. 16:57:16 unknown monster: "chaos demon" 16:57:16 %?? chaos demon 16:57:23 chaos spawn (153) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 22-43 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 2109(chaos) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(60), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 181 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 16:57:23 %??chaos spawn 16:57:35 !learn e beastly_appendage[1 s/talons/tentacle spikes/ 16:57:35 beastly appendage[1/1]: Turns one of your body parts into the "monstrous" equivalent (horns, tentacle spikes). Is not powerful enough to meld armour. Level 1 pure Transmutations. Book of Changes. 16:57:53 it only does horns or tentacle spikes?? 16:57:57 Talons 16:58:04 And that's it 16:58:08 talons 16:58:22 or hooves 16:58:37 talons because crawl hates you 16:58:41 ! learn e beastly_appendage [1 s/tentacle spikes/hooves and talons. 16:58:41 No players. 16:58:45 oh, I misremembered which beastly appendage had been removed 16:58:53 at present, it only does horns, talons, or tentacle spikes 16:59:03 !learn e beastly_appendage [1 s/tentacle spikes/talons. 16:59:04 beastly appendage[1/1]: Turns one of your body parts into the "monstrous" equivalent (horns, talons.). Is not powerful enough to meld armour. Level 1 pure Transmutations. Book of Changes. 16:59:05 now there's an area that can do with a pile of idea engineering 16:59:08 in the past, it also supported one other slot 16:59:11 Dammit 16:59:11 claws 16:59:31 (the area is "another hand mutation already") 16:59:44 hands need to turn into tentacles. 16:59:49 this is incredibly obvious. 16:59:53 !learn e beastly_appendage[1 s/talons[.]/talons 16:59:53 beastly appendage[1/1]: Turns one of your body parts into the "monstrous" equivalent (horns, talons). Is not powerful enough to meld armour. Level 1 pure Transmutations. Book of Changes. 16:59:58 clearly we need body slot auxattacks 17:00:04 Spines! 17:00:32 pleasingfungus: what do tentacles do 17:01:14 upgrade punches to tentacle slaps..............? 17:01:14 PleasingFungus: planning to replace sub specifically in kiku's randbook with some other fancy L2 spell 17:01:18 Cthulhu|Jho: spines already exist 17:01:24 they're widely hated 17:01:26 that has yet to be created 17:01:34 Basil: I saw you had a note about degeneration? 17:01:34 -!- DrMedShoals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:35 well 17:01:38 there's this thing 17:01:42 called lethal infusion, and 17:01:46 ??basil[degen 17:01:46 heh 17:01:46 Basil[12/15]: TODO convince somebody to merge nostalgia hydras, degen to replace sublim in first kiku randbook 17:01:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:02:03 gotta kill TRJ somehow 17:02:10 "just too buff" 17:02:34 there are so many ways to kill trj these days, it's great. 17:02:56 but the best one is gone 17:02:58 for ever. 17:03:07 but none of them involve "flood freezing clouds into the central chamber without ever seeing him" anymore what a sham 17:04:38 !lg hangedman koae 17:04:39 164. HangedMan the Gusty (L3 KoAE), killed by an exploding giant spore set off by themself on D:2 on 2012-07-12 15:42:53, with 136 points after 1394 turns and 0:04:42. 17:04:52 !lm hangedman koae uniq=the_royal_jelly -tv:<2 17:04:53 1. HangedMan, XL27 KoAE, T:90575 (milestone) requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 17:05:56 nrook was also arguing in favor of the 're-add fast hydras' thing. tbh. I think a certain someone's certain secret plan to improve lair is a better idea 17:06:05 but regrettably I'm contractually forbidden from discussing that 17:06:10 you mean that wouldn't improve lair 17:06:18 * theTower rolls his tyrant's eyes 17:06:34 What are nostalgia hydras? 17:06:37 Basil: we can do better! 17:06:39 ?? nostalgia hydra 17:06:39 I don't have a page labeled nostalgia_hydra in my learndb. 17:06:41 Cthulhu|Jho: 50% faster 17:06:43 speed 15 hydras 17:06:44 Why? 17:06:49 to kill players, mainly. 17:06:52 Gotta kill dude 17:06:54 s 17:06:57 I think fast hyrdas probably be a mistake 17:06:58 also ladies 17:06:59 because nostalgia was an april fool's branch that pick and chose from older versions 17:07:03 !lg * br=lair s=ikiller 17:07:05 84395 games for * (br=lair): 7449x a spiny frog, 4730x a blink frog, 4467x, 4454x a death yak, 3932x a komodo dragon, 3752x a black mamba, 3388x an eight-headed hydra, 2677x a seven-headed hydra, 2610x a yak, 2429x Rupert, 2027x a six-headed hydra, 1429x a five-headed hydra, 1209x an electric eel, 1102x a fire drake, 996x a killer bee, 993x a dire elephant, 974x a four-headed hydra, 891x an elepha... 17:07:11 !lg * br=lair s=cikiller 17:07:12 84395 games for * (br=lair): 13372x a hydra, 7449x a spiny frog, 4730x a blink frog, 4467x, 4454x a death yak, 3932x a komodo dragon, 3752x a black mamba, 2610x a yak, 2432x Rupert, 1393x a pandemonium lord, 1372x a player ghost, 1209x an electric eel, 1102x a fire drake, 996x a killer bee, 993x a dire elephant, 891x an elephant, 817x Maud, 725x a crocodile, 719x Snorg, 710x a catoblepas, 707x Gas... 17:07:22 !lg . br=lair s=cikiller 17:07:23 18 games for PleasingFungus (br=lair): 5x a hydra, 2x a death yak, 2x a catoblepas, 2x a spiny frog, a black mamba, a deep troll shaman, a pandemonium lord, a komodo dragon, a lindwurm, a sheep, an alligator 17:07:30 mm, sheep death 17:07:32 and you see some very ancient fork had speed 15 hydras 17:07:33 hm 17:07:34 and - wait 17:07:37 r??basil 17:07:37 Basil[3/15]: TODO steal Ragdoll's muck glyph, include += johnnyzero.rc (and set show_player_species to false) 17:07:41 yes 17:07:43 r??basil 17:07:43 Basil[11/15]: VS bite 10 at XL12 and 18 at XL27? 17:07:44 15 speed Lernaean Hydra 17:07:48 !lg . br=lair cikiller="a pandemonium lord" 17:07:49 1. PleasingFungus the Martial Artist (L10 GhAs of Jiyva), slain by Snack's ghost on Lair:1 on 2014-09-04 05:29:13, with 6370 points after 8181 turns and 0:29:20. 17:07:55 !learn delete basil[11] 17:07:55 fucking 17:07:55 Deleted Basil[11/15]: VS bite 10 at XL12 and 18 at XL27? 17:07:57 ghost 17:07:59 demons 17:08:07 r??basil 17:08:08 Basil[9/14]: tarantella description, red miscast prompt option, xom shuffle and wizmode (very important), allow walking into OOD, wargoyle, nostalgia hydras in notstalgia?, remove water temple, make spores confuse Enchantress, revert vorp change??? 17:08:16 Hope you like 18-damage that hits 54 times 17:08:16 it kind of is speed 15 since it's around a lot of water 17:08:29 Does water affect attack speed? 17:08:30 Cthulhu|Jho: that sounds like something I'd like to watch, yes 17:08:33 fortunately, 4.1 doesn't have the lernaean hydra 17:08:38 Or just movement speed 17:08:38 !lg * cikiller="a pandemonium lord" / ikiller~~"'s ghost" 17:08:38 46439/57242 games for * (cikiller='a pandemonium lord'): N=46439/57242 (81.13%) 17:08:43 it just has rupert with summon greater demon 17:08:45 hydra (09D) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 58-86 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Dam: 18 per head | amphibious, cold-blooded, regen | Res: 06magic(60), 03poison, 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 976 | Sz: Big | Int: reptile. 17:08:45 %??hydra 17:08:50 lair rupert with summon greater demon 17:08:52 no it it's just move speed 17:08:56 Okay 17:08:57 er 17:08:58 lupert 17:08:59 yeah 17:09:04 theTower: have you considered 17:09:06 lair boris 17:09:07 lair rupert with summon greater demon that teleports and sends those rgeater demons at you 17:09:22 role-game eater demons 17:09:24 nice 17:09:44 they would eat your characters, which have roles and are in a game, yes 17:09:57 oh, needler. interesting 17:09:59 hm 17:10:01 hm 17:10:13 hm 17:10:13 1learn add basil 4.1 food clock 17:10:14 anyway strictly speaking what does cutting off two floors of lair have to do with speed 15 hydras 17:10:27 well, they're both ways to make lair more threat-dense, iirc 17:10:30 (two off of _eight_ is completely different and much saner than two of of _five_ and) 17:10:32 since you were also proposing adding more threats 17:10:34 theTower: I'd expect it to be 3 floors 17:10:37 in the empty filler slots 17:10:48 well the floors we'd cut 17:10:57 wouldn't be cut, they'd be a 2-1 box 17:10:57 right, fair enough 17:10:58 you 17:11:00 and the hydra 17:11:07 would the hydra be speed 15 17:11:12 speed30 17:11:14 no no no 17:11:16 ! 17:11:16 No players. 17:11:21 indeed! 17:11:25 a floor has to have six spaces at minimum 17:11:30 for all pairs of stairs. 17:11:30 curses 17:11:31 (no players... survive...) 17:11:41 theTower: three sets of elevators 17:11:43 you could have three seperate f 17:11:46 Lair Xthaua 17:11:47 <3 17:11:48 yes that obviously 17:11:52 ?? Xth 17:11:52 Xth ~ th ~ thief[1/3]: An assassin who accidentally left his blowgun at home, but at least was smart enough to bring a hand crossbow.(except not anymore because hand crossbows were removed!) 17:11:54 lair mennas 17:11:56 ?? xthuau 17:11:57 Cthulhu|Jho: that exists, kind of! 17:11:57 I don't have a page labeled xthuau in my learndb. 17:12:01 in a sense 17:12:08 lair geryon 17:12:13 Lair Cerebov 17:12:14 laireyon 17:12:16 lair murray 17:12:17 hmm 17:12:20 larry 17:12:25 ! ! ! ! ! 17:12:25 No players. 17:12:28 I identified faerie dragon armour. It became mottled dragon armour 17:12:30 no no you can't enter pan via lair 17:12:33 well, there is hell lair ending >.> 17:12:36 Brannock: woah, really? 17:12:37 yes 17:12:37 okay I should stop intentionally triggering that silly bot. 17:12:38 yeah 17:12:39 Yep 17:12:41 I'm on CSZO right now 17:12:43 Brannock: good bug 17:12:44 message is still up 17:12:49 ??devell 17:12:49 I don't have a page labeled devell in my learndb. 17:12:54 &watch Brannock 17:12:55 %watch Brannock 17:12:55 Watch Brannock at: https://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-Brannock 17:13:00 Lair Tiamat 17:13:04 Basil: it's the bot for a server that doesn't have any players 17:13:06 the saddest server..... 17:13:18 How do you spell Xthua 17:13:19 purgell 17:13:21 Xtahua 17:13:21 the server doesn't even have crawl installed, apparently 17:13:34 Xtahua (05D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 35, 1709(claw), 2007(trample) | 04breaks doors, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 3799 | Sp: searing breath (3d38) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 17:13:34 %?? Xtahua 17:13:48 What's the difference between searing breath and fire breath? 17:13:51 ?? fire dragon 17:13:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:13:51 fire dragon[1/2]: Viciously powerful green D which breathes fire for 3d24 damage. Avoid if you lack rF. Corpses can be dissected to possibly produce hides, which can be enchanted to produce {fire dragon armour}. Was called "Dragon" in ancient versions of crawl. 17:13:52 fire cloud 17:13:57 fire dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 77-105 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly | Res: 06magic(60), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1068 | Sp: fire breath (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 17:13:57 %?? fire dragon 17:13:57 like red draconians 17:14:01 searing breath leaves a cloud of fire at the target square. 17:14:04 PleasingFungus, lemme know if htere's anything else I should do to submit bug 17:14:05 Ah 17:14:15 Brannock: it miiight be useful to dump your save 17:14:19 how do? 17:14:23 you have to ssh in 17:14:39 it's not that hard but probably not worth bothering in this case; I suspect this may be easy to replicate 17:14:40 suspect? hope? 17:14:47 I feel sad that he only got the flame cloud to be more than a fire dragon _after_ flame clouds became non-things post-lair-branches due to item destruction's removal 17:14:51 anyway, file a mantis ticket 17:15:03 sorry, xtahua. 17:15:19 I kind of only want two things out of xtahau 17:15:29 fire crab style clouds, and a cool effect if you upgrade the hide 17:15:32 _f - the +2 mottled dragon armour of the World {rC+ rN+ Int+3 Dex+3} 17:15:35 that's the message 17:15:37 fr xtahua's ice dragon twin xuaxua 17:15:37 Yeah 17:15:42 gammafunk: look up four lines 17:15:43 Pft 17:16:00 yeah? 17:16:02 pleasingfungus more flash with even less effect are you trying to gut me 17:16:02 Xtahua's hide should give rF+++, and MR+ 17:16:07 theTower: well 17:16:13 xta has a better kill rate than freddy 17:16:14 apparently 17:16:19 so I don't want to go overboard on buffs 17:16:26 gotta keep things competitive, you know? 17:16:26 speaking like a player 17:16:30 PleasingFungus: why did you tell me about that line? 17:16:39 oh it's 17:16:42 not unrandified 17:16:43 you mean 17:16:48 in terms of the case 17:16:58 The only thing Xtahua can do better than normal dragons is open doors 17:17:02 and not pre-ided I guess? 17:17:06 *explode doors 17:17:06 don't know how that works 17:17:07 Which I still don't understand 17:17:15 faerie dragon armour does not have its effects pre-id'd. 17:17:23 XTAHUA SMASH! 17:17:32 obviously the other dragons just don't understand this concept of smashing doors 17:17:34 since they're random. 17:17:36 Yes 17:17:45 quantum dynamics dragon armour 17:18:10 xtahua is actually nastier than the average fire dragon, it's just that he appears too late for that to be terrifying. 17:18:27 though I did them by hand I did appreciate being able to directly compare unique killrates 17:18:37 PleasingFungus, I have the save dumped. Should I attach it as a file or just place the link to the save in the description for the mantis report? 17:18:48 guess I'll do that by hand too 17:18:55 Brannock: you do not have the save dumped 17:19:00 if you're talking about hitting # 17:19:05 I ssh'd in via putty 17:19:07 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/Brannock-crawl-git-83c6b19017-141210-2317.tar.bz2 <-- 17:19:08 o 17:19:09 cool 17:19:13 you can't download that 17:19:17 so just add the link 17:19:18 ok 17:19:25 ty for reporting! 17:19:26 only coolplayers can download it 17:19:29 pleasingfungus: obviously, to get more people using that highly-valued-yet-not-that-great-also-stupid-rare thing, xtahua should be upgraded to a gold dragon 17:19:48 not a bad idea, I guess 17:19:49 gammafunk: well, that'll put a bit of a blocker on my plans to debug this... 17:20:00 PleasingFungus: ghee 17:20:04 theTower: ehhhhh 17:20:04 start now imo 17:20:06 I think Xtahua should have Hellephant fire breath 17:20:10 !hs * mine 17:20:10 1168. PleasingFungus the Champion of Chaos (L27 MiNe of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-09-29 18:22:19, with 23422719 points after 64049 turns and 8:40:36. 17:20:15 !lg . ghee 17:20:16 3. Basil the Middleweight Champion (L27 GhEE of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-09-17 09:44:26, with 1591485 points after 79315 turns and 4:00:09. 17:20:24 hellephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 147-196 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic | Res: 06magic(140), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3126 | Sp: fire breath (3d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 17:20:24 %?? Hellephant 17:20:24 hm 17:20:24 hellephant fire breath is the same as other fire breath. 17:20:24 !lg . ghee 1 17:20:24 1/3. Basil the Ruffian (L5 GhEE), slain by Prince Ribbit on D:4 on 2014-09-17 04:08:23, with 127 points after 3676 turns and 0:09:35. 17:20:26 the difference is hd 17:20:27 -!- link_1081 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:20:29 Xtahua (05D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 35, 1709(claw), 2007(trample) | 04breaks doors, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 3799 | Sp: searing breath (3d38) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 17:20:29 %??xtahua 17:20:30 !hs . gehe 17:20:31 No games for gammafunk (gehe). 17:20:33 !hs . ghee 17:20:33 17. gammafunk the Petrodigitator (L27 GhEE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2013-07-03 04:08:37, with 2319064 points after 132910 turns and 19:15:35. 17:20:34 theTower: that's a pretty big difference to the player! 17:20:37 Xtahua (05D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 35, 1709(claw), 2007(trample) | 04breaks doors, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 4155 | Sp: searing breath (3d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 17:20:37 %??xtahua hd:20 17:20:44 Yeah! 17:20:49 Basil: get good, only 3 runes 17:20:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:20:54 pleasingfungus: well uh it's also not exactly much more damage 17:21:07 !calc 3*40 17:21:08 120 17:21:13 !calc 3*38 17:21:14 114 17:21:20 6 more damage! 17:21:24 well 17:21:26 three damage on average 17:21:33 yes thank you as a dev I do not know how to math 17:21:34 so, what theTower said 17:21:35 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 8519 | Sp: b.fire (3d40) [06!sil], fireball (3d43) [06!sil], malmutate [06!sil] | Sz: little | Int: normal. 17:21:35 %?? orb of fire 17:21:36 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:43 oh, no, I'm illiterate 17:21:44 forget it 17:21:55 theTower: do any of us know how to math, really? 17:21:59 and no fireball, that's margery's territory 17:22:10 !learn del blink[7 17:22:10 Deleted blink[7/8]: The code for it is notoriously terrible, look at spl-transloc.cc for the details. 17:22:16 no one cares about this 17:22:25 yeah, what kind of entry was that 17:22:33 what's with this learndb stuff anyway 17:22:34 tbh it looks like a reaverbism 17:22:39 theTower: I'm idly scrolling through it 17:22:40 aren't you supposed to be helping with badwiki 17:22:41 as I sometimes do 17:22:44 uh 17:22:46 am I 17:22:50 everybody is! 17:22:50 I don't even have a badwiki account. 17:23:01 well if you read the badwiki PleasingFungus page, you'd be outraged 17:23:03 so maybe don't 17:23:11 dang... 17:23:31 gammafunk: does it not exist 17:23:40 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:53 Identifying faerie dragon armour transformed it into mottled dragon armour. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9319 by Brannock 17:23:53 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:53 maybe it does...maybe it doesn't... 17:24:15 (it doesn't.) 17:24:25 -!- link_108 has quit [Client Quit] 17:24:51 fr schrodingers armour 17:25:00 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-3074-gc0bb631 (34) 17:25:41 PleasingFungus: Why are you a beetle family? 17:25:47 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotylidae 17:26:23 haha 17:26:28 good 17:26:32 Cthulhu|Jho: Because my little brother got a shirt with labeled pictures of many different types of beetles, years ago, and we thought that the "pleasing fungus beetle" had the funniest name. 17:26:43 Ah 17:26:47 oh wow, that is the story 17:27:03 Pretty much. 17:27:12 good name 17:27:14 You may also want to reference the header on http://pleasingfungus.com/ . (I eventually gave up on correcting people.) 17:27:20 (but this is from before that.) 17:27:23 somehow that name has the feel of a translation gone very wrong 17:27:34 Now whenever I think of you, I will imagine you as a goliath beetle 17:27:51 Or a boring beetle, or a boulder beetle, you're choice 17:27:55 wow 17:28:01 ??goliath beetle 17:28:01 goliath beetle[1/1]: A very slow, yet reasonably dangerous creature. Do not stand and fight if you are not prepared for melee. You may want to instead take advantage of its slow speed by stepping back when it moves and striking when it cannot, or take advantage of its low MR with a confusion or paralysis wand. 17:28:08 hm 17:28:10 98 tumblr pages and then you got sidetracked by crawl 17:28:14 thought that was removed 17:28:14 well 17:28:19 I got sidetracked by my computer dying 17:28:26 repeatedly 17:28:47 Why didn't you just cast enslave soul on it :P 17:28:59 Oh, that never works. 17:29:26 do demons have souls? >.> 17:29:38 in crawl theology, they do not 17:30:18 Can one cast enslave soul on Antaeus? 17:30:20 they have ichor 17:30:23 ??ichor 17:30:23 ?? enslave soul 17:30:23 I don't have a page labeled ichor in my learndb. 17:30:23 yredelemnul[2/4]: Use enslave soul on a natural, zombifiable monster with intelligence >= I_NORMAL and no more than "lightly" wounded, and you have SK_INVOCATIONS * 3/4 +2 turns to kill it. Doing so will yield a permanent spectral, stair- and spell-using version of the monster. You may only have 1 enslaved soul at a time. 17:30:40 Can you zombify antaeus? 17:30:43 no 17:30:46 So, no. 17:30:47 cards are indeed painted in the ichor of demons 17:30:51 he's a demon too 17:30:56 He leaves a corpse 17:31:00 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [06!sil], flash freeze (3d29) [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 17:31:00 %??antaeus 17:31:08 titan zombie (07Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 22 | HP: 166-202 | AC/EV: 26/0 | Dam: 51 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(29), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 952 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 17:31:08 %??antaeus zombie 17:31:18 spectral titan (03Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 116-146 | AC/EV: 30/0 | Dam: 5113(drain) | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1499 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 17:31:18 %??spectral antaeus 17:31:32 * PleasingFungus shrugs. 17:31:40 right, antaeus'd demonic nature is a hack 17:32:03 Aw, I want a 700 HP, 115 Damage dealing undead slave 17:32:14 I would use Yred for that reason only. 17:32:15 well 17:32:19 he'd do draining damage 17:32:41 Yred would be completely justified in extended if I could enslave antaeus 17:32:44 ??is cxc down 17:32:45 13 minutes, 33 seconds since last activity (cxc) 17:32:47 hm 17:33:00 spectral draconian (03Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 115-151 | AC/EV: 32/5 | Dam: 1213(drain) | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1499 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 17:33:00 %??spectral tiamat 17:33:16 thanks, zombie bases 17:33:21 Tiamat (03d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 380 | AC/EV: 39/20 | Dam: 60, 45, 1508(poison:44-88) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 03poison | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9299 | Sp: b.lightning (3d25) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / b.quicksilver (3d20) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / chilling breath (3d28) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / poisonous cloud (3d13) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / searing breath (3d28) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / spit acid (3d7) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / steam ball (3d24) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / sticky flame splash (3d8) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 17:33:21 %?? tiamat 17:33:44 (she leaves a plain draconian corpse and that's the stats for a draconian zombie with 22 hd) 17:33:48 Ah 17:33:52 (...and better defenses) 17:34:31 What is a !AM? 17:34:36 ?? !AM 17:34:36 !am[1/1]: Used by Cheibriados to indiciate the ability is unaffected by antimagic. 17:34:39 not effec 17:34:40 Ah 17:34:41 okay sure 17:34:44 draconian simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 22 | HP: 49-85 | AC/EV: 28/5 | Dam: 1212(cold:22-65) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(29), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 566 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 17:34:44 %??tiamat simulacrum 17:35:00 golden dragon simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 8 | HD: 18 | HP: 36-70 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Dam: 3612(cold:18-53), 1609(claw)12(cold:18-53), 1607(trample)12(cold:18-53) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(24), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 331 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 17:35:00 %?? golden dragon simulacrum 17:35:11 PleasingFungus: have you ever thought that robin's band is too large? 17:35:34 unknown monster: "30HD tiamt" 17:35:34 %?? 30HD tiamt 17:35:34 seems kinda large, but maybe Pikel's is larger than I remember 17:35:42 4 slaves 17:35:47 monspec format would be 17:35:51 pikel has 4 slaves 17:35:51 Tiamat (03d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 380 | AC/EV: 39/20 | Dam: 60, 45, 1508(poison:60-120) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, cold-blooded, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(140), 03poison | Vul: 11silver | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.lightning (3d31) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / b.quicksilver (3d20) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / chilling breath (3d39) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / poisonous cloud (3d17) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / searing breath (3d39) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / spit acid (3d7) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / steam ball (3d31) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] / sticky flame splash (3d10) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 17:35:51 %??tiamat hd:30 17:36:05 nice 3d7 acid, tia 17:36:29 Quicksilver bolt remains the same 17:36:45 it's fixed 17:36:50 (so is acid) 17:36:55 Like the monster it's from 17:36:55 gammafunk: it's intended to be considerably larger than pikel's. 17:37:09 its members are individually much less threatening, even at robin's depth. 17:37:22 also pikel doesn't throw humans 17:37:27 well that is true, but they're more threatening..yeah 17:37:51 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0/20141125180439]] 17:37:55 I'd be fine with decreasing the number/proportion of hobgoblins slightly, if you felt that was needed, but there's a critical goblin mass required for the tossing thing to work. 17:38:17 !learn add reserved_clan_names Critical Goblin Mass [gammafunk] 17:38:17 reserved clan names[8/8]: Critical Goblin Mass [gammafunk] 17:38:17 human (15p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 22-43 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 194 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 17:38:17 %?? human 17:38:23 hobgoblin (07g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-7 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 2 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 17:38:23 %?? hobgoblin 17:38:31 Goblin Critical Mass is also pretty good imo 17:38:41 feel free to reserve it 17:38:43 goblin reactor 17:39:11 I'm just imagining Goblin Critical Mass as a bunch of goblins combining to form this great hulking GOBLINBEAST! 17:39:27 Like slime creatures, but with goblins 17:40:28 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:28 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:39 I wonder if one can reach critical starcursed mass 17:41:52 by making too many of them meld into a single one and reaching into a something 17:42:00 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:42:01 unknown monster: "meatlord" 17:42:01 %?? meatlord 17:42:11 unknown monster: "the unspeakeable" 17:42:11 %?? the unspeakeable 17:42:20 The Unspeakable (03J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 100 | HP: 10000 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 22 | amphibious, regen, 07vault | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 15000 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 17:42:20 %??the unspeakable 17:42:27 hm 17:42:31 thought it was an X before 17:42:40 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:43:10 "slime creature hp:10000 hd:100 name:The_Unspeakable " 17:43:24 (chei is buggy here) 17:43:42 huh 17:43:45 ??slime creaturehd:30 17:43:45 I don't have a page labeled slime_creaturehd:30 in my learndb. 17:43:55 slime creature (03J) | Spd: 10 | HD: 30 | HP: 140-187 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 22 | amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 1917 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 17:43:55 %??slime creature hd:30 17:44:17 ??reserved clan names[2 17:44:17 reserved clan names[2/8]: 098 vaults [gammafunk] 17:44:21 ??reserved clan names[3 17:44:22 reserved clan names[3/8]: Tautological Constants [gammafunk] 17:44:31 gammafunk 17:44:44 what 17:44:52 those are mine, all mine 17:44:57 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:45:16 also this is what I have 17:45:17 http://sprunge.us/UZgY?diff 17:45:34 which makes me want to make a lua version of random_choose_weighted 17:45:46 that 17:45:50 ... 17:46:01 that. 17:46:04 that's the problem when you have two uniques 17:46:14 and some glyphs that you need to subst out 17:46:19 ?? reserved clan names [4 17:46:19 reserved clan names[4/8]: sultanas of swing [wheals] 17:46:19 can't we 17:46:31 ?? sultana 17:46:32 food[1/4]: Goes in mouth/beak. Without carnivore or herbivore: Meat is 5000 nutrition. Bread is 4400 nutrition. Royal jelly is 2000 nutrition. A chunk is 1000 nutrition. Fruit is 850. Beef jerky/pizza is 1500. Porridge is 6000. 17:46:32 also typo 17:46:33 can't we make a smarter kmons 17:46:36 and shuffle a bit 17:46:42 and then not have that 17:46:44 ?? sultana [2 17:46:44 food[2/4]: Takes 4 turns to eat rations, 3 for chunks, 1 for fruit, and 2 turns for all other food. 17:46:47 * theTower sighs 17:46:58 supporing 17:47:02 yeah 17:47:06 "also typo" 17:47:08 sporing 17:47:13 sporulating 17:47:18 put some spores in the vault 17:47:30 the problem is having to test if the uniques have placed 17:47:45 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:07 Who created Meatsprint? 17:48:10 ?? meatsprint 17:48:10 meatsprint[1/5]: include += meatsprint.rc 17:48:26 meatsprint.rc... 17:48:32 &rc meatsprint 17:48:33 $(No milestones for meatsprint.) 17:49:08 st_ 17:49:25 Also, what is the area 8 tiles below the lower end of the arena? 17:49:28 ?? arena of blood 17:49:28 gammafunk: reglyphs @ to & 17:49:28 meatsprint[1/5]: include += meatsprint.rc 17:49:34 ?? meatsprint [2 17:49:34 meatsprint[2/5]: meatsprint is like my favourite roguelike 17:49:38 %rc meatsprint 17:49:39 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/meatsprint.rc 17:49:43 also lots of red 17:49:52 oh that's cute 17:50:03 : function choose_stat_gain() 17:50:04 I like 17:50:04 : crawl.sendkeys('d ') 17:50:06 : end 17:50:16 haha 17:50:19 imo that should be in default rc 17:50:22 how it blocks all the special messages of the defining unrand 17:50:27 simmarine: but AM 17:50:47 Cthulhu|Jho: Someone called "St" made meatsprint. 17:50:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Client Quit] 17:51:01 Or, designed, possibly - 1kb was the one who pushed it. 17:51:18 st has made some nice maps 17:51:29 Sprint VIII, by st 17:51:41 https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/source/c0bb6312e26f9947fe9d183ca8a9fbf89fae3c84:crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/meat.des#L1-145 17:51:47 ??sprint VIII 17:51:47 sprint VIII ~ sprint iii[1/2]: it's like a headlong sprint into a wall 17:51:57 ??sprint VIII[2 17:51:58 sprint VIII ~ sprint iii[2/2]: You hear a distant "Zot"! 17:52:11 meatsprint is cool, and good, and someday I should play it. 17:52:14 Grunt: you there? any simpler way to do http://sprunge.us/UZgY?diff 17:52:36 some day. 17:52:39 what 17:53:10 PleasingFungus: you pronounced it cool and good before you played it?!?! 17:53:12 measprint is like self-contained in so many ways 17:53:32 I would like meatsprint, except you know, viles are stupid 17:53:41 gammafunk: that is the joke, yes. 17:53:56 sure... 17:53:58 meatsprint is fun 17:54:03 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:54:03 Are You There, Grunt? It's Me, Gammafunk 17:54:04 be honest, have you played crawl 17:54:08 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:54:08 <|amethyst> gammafunk: util.random_weighted_from maybe 17:54:13 oh get out 17:54:15 !lg pleasingfrungus 17:54:16 No games for pleasingfrungus. 17:54:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: defined in dat/dlua/util.lua 17:54:25 the evidence is clear 17:54:34 |amethyst: thanks 17:54:56 !lg pleаsingfungus 17:54:56 No games for pleаsingfungus. 17:55:13 alas; my dreams of high scores...! 17:56:29 !lg PleasingFungus 17:56:29 371. PleasingFungus the Magician (L1 GhWz), slain by an ooze on D:1 (mrwooster_arrival_statue) on 2014-12-09 04:04:04, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:00:21. 17:56:54 probably an imposter 17:56:56 look! 17:57:02 PleasingFungus: not living up to the gh standard 17:57:06 !lg PleаsingFungus. 17:57:06 No keyword 'PleаsingFungus.' 17:57:13 !lg PleаsingFungus 17:57:14 No games for PleаsingFungus. 17:57:20 Basil: not unliving up to? 17:57:22 huh, intersting what the period did there 17:57:25 Basil: rip 17:57:30 !gamesby PleasingFungus gh 17:57:31 hm 17:57:31 PleasingFungus (gh) has played 37 games, between 2014-01-18 16:46:45 and 2014-12-09 04:04:04, won 0, high score 457194, total score 940066, total turns 272097, play-time/day 0:04:03, total time 22:00:20. 17:57:39 !lg . ghwz x=str,int,dex 17:57:39 this one is a winner. I can feel it. 17:57:39 just embarrassing 17:57:39 1. [str=23;int=13;dex=7] Basil the Middleweight Champion (L26 GhWz of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-10-13 23:21:33, with 1709725 points after 63938 turns and 3:14:32. 17:57:47 !lm PleasingFungus 17:57:48 5845. [2014-12-10 18:51:01] PleasingFungus the Slinger (L13 GhWz of Cheibriados) killed Rupert on turn 15218. (Lair:5) 17:57:52 !hs . ghwz x=str,int,dex 17:57:53 18. [str=15;int=10;dex=19] SGrunt the Thanatomancer (L27 GhWz of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a blue devil (summoned by a mummy priest) on Tomb:2 (tomb_2) on 2013-02-11 17:32:58, with 544469 points after 174088 turns and 11:56:06. 17:57:57 !banish gammafunk 17:57:57 Grunt casts a spell. gammafunk is devoured by a tear in reality! 17:57:58 xl13, here we go 17:58:05 !death gammafunk 17:58:06 Death has come for gammafunk... 17:58:16 wow, gh died on tomb:2 17:58:23 death by boredom 17:58:25 that character was awful 17:58:29 !hs . gh 17:58:29 37. PleasingFungus the Ticktocktomancer (L24 GhAs of Cheibriados), mangled by a sphinx on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2014-09-06 05:05:15, with 457194 points after 48137 turns and 4:30:31. 17:58:35 a tomb for gh 17:58:36 ... 17:58:50 that was the one where I forgot to take off my =tele 18:00:13 Is there a list of all the learndb commands? 18:00:26 so that's what tomb is missing and needs 18:00:27 ghouls 18:00:30 !life PleasingFungus 18:00:36 theTower: classy ghouls? 18:00:46 maybe, maybe not 18:00:47 !lg * recent gh won s=char 18:00:48 135 games for * (recent gh won): 25x GhWr, 22x GhMo, 12x GhWn, 9x GhFi, 6x GhCj, 6x GhGl, 5x GhVM, 5x GhEE, 5x GhAr, 4x GhNe, 4x GhBe, 4x GhCK, 3x GhAK, 3x GhSk, 3x GhDK, 3x GhAE, 3x GhIE, 2x GhSu, 2x GhFE, 2x GhWz, 2x GhAs, 2x GhAM, 2x GhHu, GhEn 18:00:49 ??learndb 18:00:50 learndb[1/9]: An HTML page of learndb entries is at http://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html. The version on CDO is currently outdated. 18:00:52 wow GhWr 18:00:54 oh right 18:00:56 ??sequell 18:00:56 sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell 18:01:17 oh maybe it was a nemelex 18:01:22 Cthulhu|Jho: the listgame manual (the middle link) is the one you want) 18:01:22 !lg * current trunk gh won s=char 18:01:23 68 games for * (current trunk gh won): 22x GhWr, 8x GhWn, 7x GhMo, 3x GhEE, 3x GhDK, 3x GhAK, 3x GhFi, 2x GhNe, 2x GhBe, 2x GhSk, 2x GhWz, 2x GhSu, 2x GhCK, 2x GhAE, GhCj, GhAr, GhFE, GhEn, GhIE 18:01:26 oh 18:01:27 Ghouls wearing monocles, top hats, fancy suits, and drinking tea cups 18:01:34 !lg * ghwr won current trunk s=name 18:01:34 22 games for * (ghwr won current trunk): Tedronai, MrPlanck, DrKe, stickyfingers, Zooty, MackTheKnife, jordan, allbefore, Sandman25, NilsBloodaxe, nago, guppyfry, cribozai, Magipi, MorganLeah, minmay, Lasty, Basil, HilariousDeathArtist, moose, bart, WalkerBoh 18:01:37 huh 18:01:38 Not Found 18:01:38 The requested URL /learndb.html. was not found on this server. 18:01:44 !hs . ghwr 18:01:45 6. PleasingFungus the Fighter (L14 GhWr of Okawaru), mangled by an orc warrior (a +0 halberd) in Bailey (bailey_polearm_5) on 2014-12-09 03:20:19, with 46627 points after 17364 turns and 1:39:57. 18:01:49 :( 18:01:52 rip. 18:01:57 Tha's what I got for the shalott site 18:01:57 I guess it didn't Gell with you 18:02:09 Cthulhu|Jho: that's because there's a period at the end 18:02:11 delete that 18:02:57 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:03:21 <|amethyst> !learn edit learndb[1] s/\. The/ . The/ 18:03:22 learndb[1/9]: An HTML page of learndb entries is at http://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html . The version on CDO is currently outdated. 18:04:10 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:10 |amethyst's favorite unicode character! 18:05:30 -!- ironfoot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:05:33 !learn edit learndb[1] s/\. t/- t/ 18:05:34 learndb[1/9]: An HTML page of learndb entries is at http://loom.shalott.org/learndb.html - the version on CDO is currently outdated. 18:05:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:53 the loomy of 18:06:01 MarvinPA spotted. 18:06:15 higher question is, is he responsive 18:06:39 perhaps 18:07:22 ✓ 18:07:47 http://sprunge.us/ffCB?diff 18:07:56 it did improve things using the util function 18:09:01 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:09:18 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:09:50 I just wanted to know all the !commands 18:09:54 Like 18:10:00 !Firestorm jho 18:10:00 Cthulhu|Jho casts a spell at jho. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs jho! 18:10:04 oh 18:10:08 need to fix typo though 18:10:17 those are custom-defined, not built in 18:10:19 but jho resists fire 18:10:20 Ah 18:10:33 Deviljho's don't resist fire unfortunatly 18:10:35 sadly there is no !chain_lightning 18:10:46 Or !dragon 18:10:49 ??cmd 18:10:49 I don't have a page labeled cmd in my learndb. Did you mean: crd, md. 18:10:53 ??sequell 18:10:53 sequell[1/4]: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell 18:10:54 !dragonscall Cthulhu|Jho 18:10:54 PleasingFungus calls out to the draconic realm, and the dragon horde roars back! The golden dragon tramples Cthulhu|Jho!!! x3 18:10:56 potion of chain lightning 18:10:56 ??sequell[2 18:10:57 sequell[2/4]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html lists user-defined keywords/commands/functions. 18:11:02 !cmd 18:11:02 !cmd: Define custom command: `!cmd ` to define, `!cmd -rm ` to delete, `!cmd ` to query, `!cmd -ls` to list. 18:11:06 !cmd -ls 18:11:06 that userdef.html lists all the custom commands 18:11:07 User Commands: !&splat, !a-choice, !a-class, !a-race, !a-sign, !abyss, !abyssratio, !abyssturns, !acbonus, !aevp, !armourdodgepenalty, !badchar, !banish, !beer, !blame, !boot, !branchless, !bug, !calc, !cang, !chars, !cheers, !cmdlist, !cmdmv, !coffee, !coinflip, !countgoodplayers, !countgreatplayers, !countnick, !cpodump, !crash, !crashlog, !crush, !crystalball, !csdc, !csdc3wk1tier1, !csdc3wk1ti... 18:11:10 dragon's call is pretty dragon element though 18:11:15 probably need to do that in /msg 18:11:19 Not those kind of dragons, I meant dragon energy 18:11:22 Okay 18:11:28 what is dragon energy. 18:11:33 does it come from the dragon balls. 18:11:42 PleasingFungus: you wish 18:11:44 potion of electricity: gives temp relec and then fires a chain lightning directly at you 18:11:56 it comes from dracophage berries and elder dragon blood 18:12:12 And Alatreon 18:12:18 that counts as elder dragon blood 18:12:19 "berries that devour dragons" 18:12:23 powerful fruit 18:12:38 well, obviously they grow over the corpses of dragons 18:12:39 More like berries that hunters eat to devour dragons 18:12:47 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:00 Ah Monster Hunter, you're silly buffs and animations 18:13:02 (if only there were any nonherbivore corpses in third gen) 18:13:20 * Cthulhu|Jho starts cooking some raw meat 18:14:01 pleasingfungus: well, there's this wolf that empowers itself with gigantic explosive bugs that eat dragon-repelling berries 18:14:17 hooray video game logic 18:14:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:28 the bugs eat the berries? 18:14:32 yes 18:14:35 huh. 18:14:44 that is why they're explosive 18:14:45 www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJEt110Kads 18:14:49 (and homing) 18:15:04 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-3075-g2404d30: Give Robin a chance to appear in a goblin-themed vault 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 37+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2404d30b314b 18:15:08 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:29 * Cthulhu|Jho finishes! So Tasty!!! 18:15:57 I need to name one of my characters ChaCha in DC 18:16:11 and then you get into g-rank and why aren't you just combining energy drinks aside from dash juices sorry meat 18:16:25 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:32 Basil: Welcome to ##monsterhunter-dev. 18:16:38 Because I don't want to farm Royal Ludroths 18:16:46 hmm 18:16:58 well I suppose plain dash juice is still a thing 18:17:06 you don't even get to hear it's tasty though 18:17:13 Not that I don't mind killing Shark/Sponge/Lions 18:17:15 pleasingfungus: I thought this was nethack-dev 18:17:22 or maybe d&d-dev, or magic-dev 18:17:37 It's a shapeshifter. 18:17:40 magick 18:17:41 Or possibly a mimic. 18:17:46 dev-dev 18:17:51 hm 18:18:00 Some monster hunter monsters are nearly ridiculous enough to get into Dungeon Crawl 18:18:00 a fixedart that makes staircases 18:18:02 in conclusion, garuga is a titanic shrike. 18:20:29 (which is completely suiting because in second gen it was better designed than bloody gold rathian but blah blah blah blah) 18:21:21 Do not mess with the gold rathians, for they will mess you up, though Silver Rathalos are okay, because everybody knows how to fight Rathalos 18:21:26 But yeah 18:22:33 gold rathians in second gen are a joke and even in third gen they deliberately get a ranged weakness sooooo 18:22:50 "screw it just take running backflips" 18:23:25 Though their explosive fireballs still hurt quite a bit 18:24:07 I think Fatalis is Xtahua, very unoriginal, very hard-hitting, very bulky 18:24:21 bulky 18:24:38 so we need white xtahua with instant-kill lightning 18:24:41 finally, a solution 18:24:45 Though one likes to shout for no reason, and one likes to fly and walk into walls for no reason 18:25:16 fatalis's scream made me flinch when I first heard it, that's pretty analogous 18:25:27 (literally flinch, it's like a shriek) 18:26:11 And gets a defense boost at 50% health, so that basically you either have to have mind's eye or Large Barrel Bombs 18:26:19 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:21 although one gets _crushed_ by a door and one smashes doors open... 18:26:42 Yeah 18:26:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:27:30 anyway they are both lazy design but that makes xtahua bland while leaving fatalis as the worst fight in its generation 18:27:34 hooray, blandness 18:27:48 Yes. 18:27:55 xtahua the fire shrike 18:27:56 the bland leading the bland 18:27:57 i m o 18:28:10 * Grunt envisions XTAHUA leading a band of fire dragons..... 18:28:10 * Sequell also envisions XTAHUA leading a band of fire dragons..... 18:28:14 thanks Sequell 18:28:17 mm 18:28:23 or maybe give him firestorm breath 18:28:23 Hmmm 18:28:24 (although it did get sped up in fourth gen and that makes it not horrible, so the answer is make xtahua speed 20??) 18:28:38 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:28:44 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:28:52 I like what they did to Crimson Fatalis in MH4U, now he looks interesting for once 18:29:00 red death 18:29:08 grunt: but how can we have nellie with a hellephant band if xtahua has a fire dragon band 18:29:13 hm 18:29:21 Give it meteor breath (random fireballs everywhere) 18:29:33 what's a Nellie in plain crawl 18:29:44 Nellie (13Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 240 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic | Res: 06magic(140), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3375 | Sp: fire breath (3d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 18:29:44 %?? nellie 18:29:49 (todo dig out the iron giant patches; give it scattershot while we're at it) 18:29:52 it's like a xtahua fire dragon band, in that it doesn't yet exist 18:29:52 hellephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 147-196 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic | Res: 06magic(140), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3126 | Sp: fire breath (3d40) [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], blink [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 18:29:52 %?? Hellephant 18:30:36 nellie is also bland though this is a non-issue 18:30:38 And make the fire dragons lead firedrakes/lindwurms 18:30:52 make fire drakes lead fire bats 18:30:57 (Nellie and the Hellephants, eternal rivals of Margery and the Hell Knights) 18:30:58 make fire bats lead bats 18:31:15 and make bats lead OOF 18:31:25 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:31:38 onstenably roka is supposed to be an Army unique 18:31:51 but he doesn't really have a band you care about, just a band you're warned by 18:31:54 needs more warlords 18:31:59 pff 18:32:01 <_< 18:32:04 needs more high priests 18:32:11 smiting forever 18:32:11 -!- ghostmoth has quit [Quit: ghostmoth] 18:32:22 clearly the warlords are meatshields for the high priests 18:32:22 Also, what is this tile that looks like a little purple man tilted at a angle? 18:32:54 oh 18:32:56 !lg * ikiller=saint_roka s=ckiller 18:32:56 1769 games for * (ikiller=saint_roka): 1403x Saint Roka, 207x an orc warrior, 69x an orc priest, 26x an orc sorcerer, 15x a troll, 8x a warg, 8x an orc, 6x an ogre, 6x a smoke demon, 4x an orc wizard, 4x a sun demon, 2x an ice devil, 2x a hellion, a reaper, a beast, an orc warlord, a soul eater, a water nymph, an ogre zombie, a hellwing, an orc zombie, a sixfirhy 18:32:58 that's an orb guardian 18:33:02 it's a fetus 18:33:18 ...good job, orc warriors 18:33:41 Why do we have orb guardian fetuses? 18:33:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:45 we don't 18:33:49 that's an ancient tile 18:33:52 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:34:03 Then why is it in the tiles file? 18:34:11 for .rc settings 18:34:12 because nobody's made a better one 18:34:16 ? 18:34:17 oh 18:34:45 because a dev wanted to play with a player tile being a giant purple fetus. 18:35:06 I thought moving back to crawl would make me make more sense 18:35:13 Nope 18:35:27 !lg * ikiller="saint roka" ckiller="a water nymph" 18:35:27 1. Thrall the Protected (L14 LOFi of Beogh), blasted by a water nymph (the raging water) (summoned by Saint Roka) on Shoals:5 on 2014-05-07 17:05:18, with 69402 points after 9375 turns and 1:11:27. 18:35:36 What? 18:35:38 huh 18:35:39 scroll of summoning 18:35:40 duh 18:35:43 ya 18:35:49 funny that it got thrall 18:35:50 of all people 18:35:58 wow-dev 18:35:59 !lg * cikiller=saint_roka max=length(kpath) 18:36:00 1773. Stossel the Grappler (L9 TrBe of Trog), slain by an orc zombie (a -1,+2 orcish hammer of draining) (animated by an orc sorcerer (led by Saint Roka)) on Orc:4 on 2011-03-17 18:38:18, with 4259 points after 6851 turns and 0:29:51. 18:36:17 !lg * cikiller=saint_roka max=length(kpath) -2 18:36:17 level nine 18:36:18 1772/1773. Eli the Thaumaturge (L14 FeFE of Vehumet), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by an orc sorcerer (led by Saint Roka)) on D:17 on 2012-04-01 19:47:55, with 59639 points after 43111 turns and 14:15:25. 18:36:19 the sheer odds required for that 18:36:19 ouch 18:36:30 !lg * cikiller=saint_roka max=length(kpath) -3 18:36:31 1771/1773. dirge the Jinx (L14 VpEn of Okawaru), demolished by a sun demon (summoned by an orc sorcerer (led by Saint Roka)) on Orc:4 on 2013-05-12 06:13:11, with 53546 points after 28331 turns and 3:35:58. 18:36:36 boring 18:36:39 !lg * max=length(kpath) 18:36:42 3820528. Churchmouse the Blademaster (L27 HaWn of Okawaru), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf sorcerer (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))))) on Zig:21 on 2011-08-02 13:41:31, with 649571 points after 98719 turns and 13:08:27. 18:36:47 ahh 18:36:53 !lg * max=length(kpath) reecent 18:36:54 No keyword 'reecent' 18:36:57 !lg * max=length(kpath) recent 18:36:59 723001. wvc the Intangible (L23 KoBe of Trog), slain by a redback (summoned by a deep elf summoner (summoned by a shadow demon (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))) on Elf:3 (minmay_elf_hall) on 2014-08-24 22:13:47, with 348412 points after 54771 turns and 5:33:40. 18:37:03 Blue death has come for PleasingFungus... 18:37:04 ?? blue death 18:37:04 blue death[1/1]: Churchmouse the Blademaster (L27 HaWn), worshipper of Okawaru, blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf sorcerer (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))))) in Zig:21 on 2011-08-02, with 649571 points after 98719 turns and 13:08:27. 18:37:12 Cthulhu|Jho: I hope that helps. 18:37:17 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:19 unknown monster: "blue death" 18:37:19 %0.11?blue death 18:37:23 Could not execute monster-0.8: No such file or directory 18:37:23 %0.8?blue death 18:37:25 unknown monster: "blue death" 18:37:25 %0.10?blue death 18:37:26 %0.9??blue death 18:37:32 come on, come on... 18:37:33 Blue Death (021) | Speed: 11 | HD: 12 | Health: 46-86 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Damage: 20, 20 | Flags: 05demonic, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(144), 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 1525 | Sp: b.lightning (3d18), b.cold (3d21), shadow creatures, teleport other. 18:37:33 %0.9?blue death 18:37:39 blizzard demon (122) | Spd: 11 | HD: 12 | HP: 46-84 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 20, 20 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(144), 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 1464 | Sp: b.lightning (3d18), freezing cloud (2d22), airstrike (0-34), b.cold (3d21) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 18:37:39 %0.10?blizzard demon 18:37:42 nice 18:37:57 god, old demons just had 18:37:59 the most random spells 18:38:09 Ice Fiend (161) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 77-121 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Damage: 2512(cold:18-53), 2512(cold:18-53) | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(288), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 3022 | Sp: b.cold (3d27), torment symbol, demon. 18:38:09 %0.9?ice fiend 18:38:15 summon demon fiends. 18:38:28 when do we get a SGD 1 18:38:34 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:38:36 1s summoning 1s summoning 1s ... 18:38:42 sounds pretty funny 18:38:46 -!- weezefac_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:47 obviously, what we need 18:38:52 ??1 18:38:53 1[1/2]: The tier 1 demons. The most dangerous of their kind outside of the named guardians in Pandemonium, the Fiends can cast {torment}. They are: {Ice Fiend}, {Shadow Fiend}, {Brimstone Fiend}, {Executioner}, {Hell Sentinel}. If you are looking at your map and you see a mysterious green 1 and can't figure it out, that's a waypoint. 18:38:53 is af_shadow_creatures for shadow demons. 18:39:01 ! 18:39:01 No players. 18:39:09 /kick Devell begone 18:39:19 Grunt: imo kickban 18:39:25 /kick PleasingFungus okay 18:39:29 rude! 18:39:39 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:49 !lg * current trunk cikiller~~" fiend" s=cikiller 18:39:51 69 games for * (current trunk cikiller~~' fiend'): 35x an Ice Fiend, 32x a Brimstone Fiend, 2x a Shadow Fiend 18:39:51 I wonder how horrific that'd actually be 18:39:58 poor shadow fiends 18:40:01 !lg * current trunk cikiller=executioner 18:40:01 No games for * (current trunk cikiller=executioner). 18:40:05 w h a t 18:40:06 !lg * current trunk cikiller="an executioner" 18:40:07 59. s009255 the Carver (L11 GrFi of Trog), slain by an Executioner on Abyss:1 on 2014-12-10 02:37:17, with 9268 points after 8741 turns and 0:26:48. 18:40:09 oh 18:40:15 well, they could be used in actual numbers in tar 18:40:16 !lg * current trunk cikiller="a hell sentinel" 18:40:17 62. enigmoo the Sorcerer (L27 DsCj of Vehumet), blasted by a Hell Sentinel (blast of hellfire) on Zig:23 on 2014-12-08 20:45:13, with 746642 points after 100273 turns and 16:53:30. 18:40:19 <_miek> cikiller? 18:40:20 that would be nice 18:40:24 canonical ikiller 18:40:26 ckiller+ikiller 18:40:34 canonical (indirect)killer 18:40:41 clearly just give shadow fiends SGD 18:40:45 it matches shadow demons! 18:40:52 m m m 18:41:05 <_miek> ah.. 18:41:29 give greater demons summon ancient lich to complete the cycle 18:42:13 <_miek> it surprises me that ice fiends are more dangerous than brimstone 18:42:24 !tell Grunt "Brannock: Oh, yeah -- killing the Enchantress via slamming her into a wall repeatedly with Fan of Gales was really fantastic. Thanks to whoever decided to add that in! " 18:42:24 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 18:42:31 <_miek> I mean "more" is probably generous since its within statistical error 18:42:32 I am not sure why I used !tell there 18:42:32 ! 18:42:32 No players. 18:42:37 !tell PleasingFungus who knows 18:42:38 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 18:42:40 friggin' devell, man. 18:42:40 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:42:47 they are just used in much higher numbers in cocytus compared to gehenna 18:42:48 and friggin' sequell, too! 18:42:53 due to relative threat and such 18:42:54 Ice Fiend (161) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 78-115 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53), 2509(claw)12(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2892 | Sp: b.cold (3d27) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 18:42:54 %?? ice fiend 18:42:58 Brimstone Fiend (041) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 78-115 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 25, 15, 15 | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 3321 | Sp: hellfire (3d20) [06!sil], s.torment [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 18:42:58 %?? brimstone fiend 18:43:03 ! 18:43:04 good 18:43:14 and less things in cocytus to work with 18:43:17 <_miek> much worse melee damage I think 18:43:17 that can stay there until Devell learns to shut up. 18:43:19 sequell and the devell's spawn 18:43:22 <|amethyst> % 18:43:30 156 damage in melee potentially is nothing to sneeze at 18:44:06 against all those poor robe users in cocytus 18:44:25 !send logicninja theTower 18:44:25 Sending theTower to logicninja. 18:44:28 way too cold there 18:44:32 alternately, berder, etc 18:44:38 put on some dragon armour already 18:44:50 But my Archmagi robes! 18:44:53 going to catch your death of cold 18:44:55 but fda is actually chilly 18:45:26 <_miek> still.. hellfire + torment on a single monster 18:45:59 brimstone fiends are half to a third as used in gehenna on comparsion and they're still in the running 18:46:02 tht situation is fine 18:46:05 they're rude dudes, but the rc- is a pretty big achilles' heel. 18:46:06 !sen theTower to Polar Zone 18:46:07 <_miek> yep 18:46:11 <_miek> so its about quantity 18:46:11 !lm * recent ac>=0 ac<20 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis 18:46:12 !send PleasingFungus rF- 18:46:12 Sending rF- to PleasingFungus. 18:46:13 974. [2014-12-10 22:32:26] letownia the Devastator (L27 FeWz of Vehumet) entered Cocytus on turn 115472. (Hell) 18:46:16 !send theTower to Polar Zone 18:46:16 Sending to Polar Zone to theTower. 18:46:25 !lm * recent ac>=0 ac<20 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis s=name 18:46:25 974 milestones for * (recent ac>=0 ac<20 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis): 45x Yermak, 31x runewalsh, 23x keymashgrqeeg, 20x letownia, 20x tlatlagkaus, 19x Aki, 18x mopl, 16x joy1999, 15x Aarujn, 15x Antem, 13x johnnyzero, 13x casual, 12x chofbri, 12x Cheetah, 12x soul, 11x TheAlmightyOne, 10x Ahrin, 9x damdam, 9x Margery, 9x Monsoon, 9x EugeneJudo, 9x ELD, 8x WhiteShark, 8x Piginabag, 8x lennard, 8x Zoo... 18:46:29 !lm * recent ac>=0 ac<20 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis xl=27 18:46:31 894. [2014-12-10 22:32:26] letownia the Devastator (L27 FeWz of Vehumet) entered Cocytus on turn 115472. (Hell) 18:46:31 heh 18:46:34 !lm * recent ac>=0 ac<20 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis xl=27 / won 18:46:36 641/894 milestones for * (recent ac>=0 ac<20 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis xl=27): N=641/894 (71.70%) 18:46:45 30% death rate if you don't have good ac 18:46:49 I'd say that's punishment enough 18:46:51 !send Polar Zone theTower 18:46:52 Sending Zone theTower to Polar. 18:46:55 !death the underarmored 18:46:55 Death has come for the underarmored... 18:47:03 !lm * recent br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis xl=27 / won 18:47:04 6408/8587 milestones for * (recent br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis xl=27): N=6408/8587 (74.62%) 18:47:07 !send PolarZone theTower 18:47:07 Sending theTower to PolarZone. 18:47:14 you can't send a location to another location! 18:47:14 Have fun with Ukanlos 18:47:21 how does that anything! 18:47:22 !lm * recent ac>=0 ac<10 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis s=name 18:47:23 202 milestones for * (recent ac>=0 ac<10 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis): 12x Yermak, 12x casual, 12x runewalsh, 9x Aki, 8x letownia, 8x Zooty, 7x KCGemini, 7x ELD, 7x johnnyzero, 6x Aarujn, 5x EugeneJudo, 4x Tenebrium, 4x l0ser140, 4x Ao, 4x Waterpls, 4x Demise, 4x Deemzul, 4x joy1999, 4x Kramin, 4x Thrkk, 4x tlatlagkaus, 3x IjonTichy1, 3x Rayleigh, 3x Piginabag, 3x bananaken, 3x magicpoints, 3x Mansio... 18:47:27 !send cleverspacetricks Cthulhu|Jho 18:47:27 Sending Cthulhu|Jho to cleverspacetricks. 18:47:28 !lm * recent ac>=0 ac<10 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis / won 18:47:29 150/202 milestones for * (recent ac>=0 ac<10 br.enter=geh|coc|tar|dis): N=150/202 (74.26%) 18:47:34 ! 18:47:40 <_miek> hmmm 18:47:48 clearly, low enough ac makes you wrap back around to 'good' 18:47:50 <_miek> does that query bias towards those who don't die? 18:47:52 !send theshadowydepthsofmadness geekosaur 18:47:52 Sending geekosaur to theshadowydepthsofmadness. 18:48:02 _miek: since they enter all three? probably. 18:48:07 (so, a no-op? :p ) 18:48:08 *all four 18:48:09 <_miek> yeah 18:48:11 !kw won 18:48:12 Built-in: won => ktyp=winning 18:48:18 hrm 18:48:20 !lg * ktyp~~colli 18:48:21 No games for * (ktyp~~colli). 18:48:23 aw 18:48:27 !lm * recent br.enter=tar / won 18:48:28 1674/2276 milestones for * (recent br.enter=tar): N=1674/2276 (73.55%) 18:48:29 !lm . br.enter=lair won 18:48:30 20. [2014-11-26 21:25:28] gammafunk the Caregiver (L10 DDHe of Elyvilon) entered the Lair of Beasts on turn 9222. (D:8) 18:48:34 ok goo 18:48:36 !lg * ikiller=bennu s=ktyp 18:48:36 d 18:48:36 16 games for * (ikiller=bennu): 11x mon, 3x beam, burning, spore 18:48:37 PleasingFungus: btw I smashed Boris into a wall recently 18:48:38 !lm * recent ac<20 br.enter=tar / won 18:48:39 it was therapeutic 18:48:39 167/237 milestones for * (recent ac<20 br.enter=tar): N=167/237 (70.46%) 18:48:40 spore! 18:48:43 !lm * recent ac<10 br.enter=tar / won 18:48:43 38/50 milestones for * (recent ac<10 br.enter=tar): N=38/50 (76.00%) 18:48:44 ...spore. 18:48:46 hm 18:48:51 !lg * ktyp=spore ckiller=bennu 18:48:52 1. zarath9 the Petrodigitator (L27 GrEE of Vehumet), killed by an exploding bennu ignited by themself on Zig:24 on 2014-11-22 13:49:29, with 1229087 points after 134686 turns and 11:47:30. 18:48:53 theTower: spore...... 18:48:58 hm 18:49:02 PleasingFungus sporulates for attention! 18:49:02 good message. 18:49:03 that's a little confusing 18:49:10 Grunt: imo need more borises 18:49:18 ya 18:49:20 I remember being annoyed at trying to figure out how to improve that message 18:49:21 we need to 18:49:27 figure out how to get Boris to appear earlier and scale better 18:49:36 * Cthulhu|Jho summons borises from Ryleh to the chat 18:49:47 Boris fhtagn? 18:49:49 pff 18:50:04 just give him stronger later spawning and he can show up in pan! 18:50:10 ! 18:50:16 then by definition there is infinite boris 18:50:32 oh 18:50:34 maybe we can 18:50:38 vary spellset by branch 18:50:48 randboris 18:50:50 the boris of hell 18:51:32 I am biased toward earlier borises than later borises 18:51:37 Just My Opinion 18:51:40 i y h o 18:51:49 :) 18:51:50 <_miek> "killed by a self-ignited exploding bennu" 18:52:34 <_miek> or perhaps just "exploding bennu" and don't list who ignited it unless its something else 18:52:36 ??it[buggy 18:52:37 it[15/43]: 1. heteroy the Skirmisher (L5 OpCK), worshipper of Xom, killed by an exploding it (buggy) set off by their pet on D:5 on 2011-09-12, with 467 points after 4092 turns and 0:09:29. 18:53:22 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:54:04 I like how bennu "look easy" at xl 27 18:54:23 bennu (08b) | Spd: 16 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-92 | AC/EV: 6/16 | Dam: 2708(holy), 1813(drain), 1804(napalm) | evil, see invisible, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(140), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++ | Vul: 12drown, 08holy | XP: 1286 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 18:54:23 %??bennu 18:54:26 they do have low xp for that evaluator, after all (since you get it twice) 18:54:55 -!- imantor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:57:23 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:01:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:07:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:08:40 -!- AlexM___ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:13:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:14:16 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:19:01 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:21:02 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:28 Back 19:25:31 Ping? 19:25:53 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:26:28 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:26:37 -!- Cthulhu|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:27:17 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:27:47 -!- Savage|Jho has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:56 Rawr 19:28:12 * Savage|Jho breathes dragonflame over everybody 19:29:17 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:29:57 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as PleasingFungus 19:30:16 -!- Savage|Jho is now known as Cthulhu|Jho 19:30:27 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:28 !seen |amethyst 19:30:28 I last saw |amethyst at Thu Dec 11 00:43:22 2014 UTC (47m 6s ago) saying '%' on ##crawl-dev. 19:30:30 Savage|Jho: this isn't a general chatroom like ##crawl, and we're pretty patient, but especially for those in the channel who aren't devs, we'd like it discussion is not much random noise 19:30:37 Ola 19:30:38 *okay 19:30:39 ##crawl is better if you just want to chat 19:30:41 thanks 19:31:15 of course, my own irc message to commit ratio is embarrassing... 19:32:04 i'm sure mine's worse 19:32:17 i figure i'll pick up the project by osmosis if i stay in here long enough 19:32:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:33:31 I need to figure out PleasingFungus' commit/day ratio and aspire to that 19:33:35 ?/commit 19:33:36 Matching terms (3): commit_search, commits, elliptic_commits; entries (19): crate_crawl[2] | devsprint[12] | devteam[3] | devteam[4] | devteam[9] | dolorous[2] | doom_checklist[1] | dracoomega[3] | dracoomega[5] | git_branch[2] | git_search[1] | hill_dwarf[2] | igni[1] | irony[3] | lld[2] | pleasingfungus[4] | rakshasa[4] | sorear[3] | vault[4] 19:35:04 ??gitstats[2 19:35:05 gitstats[2/3]: http://s-z.org/crawl-stats/ — updated infrequently 19:35:23 hm 19:35:27 I think I do too much crawl dev 19:35:37 -!- PleasingFungus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:36:25 i'd do work but i haven't even won three-rune 19:36:42 !calc 1150.0 / 173 19:36:43 6.65 19:36:43 i'm a worseplayer 19:37:20 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3076-g31871f1: Allow cancelling out of blurry vision 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31871f1773e1 19:37:23 !calc 1150.0 / 283 19:37:23 4.06 19:37:52 nice. I'm in 137th place 19:37:53 !calc 225 / 532.0 19:37:53 0.42 19:37:57 haha 19:38:17 !tell PleasingFungus You have 4.06 commits/day versus my 0.42 per day. 19:38:18 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 19:38:29 !calc 4.06/.42 19:38:30 9.67 19:38:35 !tell gammafunk it's about quality, not quantity 19:38:35 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:38:35 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 19:38:40 for example 19:38:42 !gamesby gammafunk 19:38:42 gammafunk has played 2455 games, between 2012-04-26 17:48:23 and 2014-12-10 03:00:48, won 20 (0.8%), high score 24084354, total score 131158034, total turns 13711995, play-time/day 2:06:10, total time 84d+0:39:01. 19:38:44 !gamesby . 19:38:44 PleasingFungus has played 371 games, between 2013-11-22 22:41:11 and 2014-12-09 04:04:04, won 32 (8.6%), high score 23422719, total score 206634772, total turns 6545103, play-time/day 1:34:29, total time 25d+3:07:51. 19:38:53 oh, so 19:38:53 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:38:56 !hs * place=d:1 19:38:58 1056233. gammafunk the Demonologist (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-02-22 20:26:26, with 941018 points after 49424 turns and 12:08:34. 19:39:03 !gamesby dixiedixie 19:39:03 dixiedixie has played 191 games, between 2014-07-19 07:53:29 and 2014-12-10 03:01:29, won 0, high score 56878, total score 416134, total turns 693073, play-time/day 0:22:50, total time 2d+7:11:55. 19:39:10 can you beat that 19:39:10 !hs * d:1 !boring 19:39:12 I think not 19:39:12 738887. ophanim the Swordmaster (L27 LOFi of Jiyva), annihilated by an Ice Fiend (led by Wafenev) on D:1 on 2013-06-07 01:22:52, with 887240 points after 122671 turns and 6:12:09. 19:39:18 heh 19:39:19 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:39:28 !hs * d:1 !boring -tv 19:39:31 738887. ophanim, XL27 LOFi, T:122671 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 19:39:40 man, can you imagine 19:40:17 wow, nasty ascent 19:40:30 of course my best is really 44k but I didn't want to finish that one game 19:40:39 ahahaha oh god 19:40:41 rip 19:40:42 did you SEE that 19:41:23 was he cold vuln 19:41:41 !hs * d:1 !boring -log 19:41:43 738887. ophanim, XL27 LOFi, T:122671: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ophanim/morgue-ophanim-20130607-012252.txt 19:41:49 nope, rc+ 19:41:56 and 72 ac 19:42:05 christ 19:42:19 just astonishingly terrible bad luck 19:42:28 -!- pwnmonkey_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:42:45 oh 19:42:49 and climbing stairs while slowed 19:42:55 and at ~40 hp 19:44:19 !calc 532 / 111.0 19:44:20 4.79 19:44:41 interesting he had a few pan runes and a hell rune 19:44:51 -!- eb has quit [] 19:44:54 doy: is that days active or all days 19:44:57 I was doing all days 19:44:58 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:45:28 ah, that's active days 19:45:39 !calc 532 / 1838.5 19:45:39 !calc 532 / 1838.0 19:45:40 0.29 19:45:40 0.29 19:45:50 that's not realy fair though 19:45:56 since i think you had long pauses 19:46:19 it's true 19:46:28 the point is I'm way better than bh 19:46:37 !calc 371.0 / 1834 19:46:38 0.2 19:46:50 !cmd !calc 19:46:50 Command: !calc => !lg xyz x=$$*$ fmt:"${x[0]}" 19:47:20 omg 19:47:22 really 19:47:47 I guess if lg already implements the math 19:48:01 !gamesby xyz 19:48:02 xyz has played 1 game, between 2009-09-04 11:01:17 and 2009-09-04 11:19:36, won 0, high score 85, total score 85, total turns 3294, play-time/day 0:07:10, total time 0:07:10. 19:48:05 heh 19:48:10 one game, but so much math 19:49:14 !calc 7543.0 / 1593 19:49:15 4.74 19:50:35 calc uses Postgres to do math, which is both atrocious and amusing at once 19:51:46 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:52:38 ah, right 19:52:52 !calc select * from information_schema.tables 19:52:52 Cannot apply to [select, from] 19:56:37 -!- Wendol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:56:52 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:54 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:24 -!- AlexM___ has quit [] 20:01:50 Um, I've got a bug or something 20:02:19 It says 20:02:57 ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1316 failed. 20:02:59 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03:10 At least thats the error message 20:03:17 -!- Amnesthesia is now known as Amnesthesia|Else 20:04:09 Is that my computer doing something wrong? 20:04:32 * Cthulhu|Jho is playing 15.2 stable 20:06:25 what were you doing when it crashed? 20:06:53 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 20:06:55 I was trying to get onto Red Sonja, then it did that 20:07:12 hrm 20:07:14 It still created the character, it just booted me out of Crawl 20:07:20 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:34 oh that's stable nm 20:07:53 Cthulhu|Jho: what happens if you try to load the character 20:07:54 same thing? 20:08:01 No, I can play it 20:08:14 hm 20:08:25 The level loaded fine, it just initially booted me out 20:10:22 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 20:14:06 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:14:26 -!- xug has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:18:29 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21:50 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 20:25:12 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Client Quit] 20:25:33 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Client Quit] 20:25:46 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:55 -!- Sharkman1231 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:00 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 20:26:49 has anyone every suggested a throwing net that inflicts the -tele status? 20:27:45 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:21 &rc SomeoneAwful 20:33:23 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/SomeoneAwful.rc 20:37:22 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:39:09 PleasingFungus: one of you SA people finally stole my random_tile() rc stuff 20:39:15 heh 20:39:16 I knew it would happen eventually 20:39:21 good 20:39:38 !seen dpeg 20:39:38 I last saw dpeg at Tue Dec 9 23:13:55 2014 UTC (1d 3h 25m 43s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: sleep'. 20:39:53 more like sleepeg 20:40:10 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:40:21 rude. 20:45:11 oh, travis-ci is going to come in and complain in a little bit 20:45:16 apologies in advance 20:45:20 !blame PleasingFungus 20:45:20 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 20:45:26 actually 20:45:28 !blame Grunt 20:45:28 I pronounce Grunt... Guilty! 20:45:31 for at least one of them 20:45:32 !blame Sequell 20:45:33 I pronounce Sequell... Guilty! 20:45:34 I added new tests 20:45:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3077-gaadef77: Add mon-spell tests 10(2 minutes ago, 4 files, 144+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aadef77a2af2 20:47:20 \o/ 20:47:34 also I've never actually watched this rc tile_player_tile craziness 20:47:38 for any length of time 20:47:44 it's goddamn weird 20:47:49 hahahaha 20:48:18 I imagine somewhat distracting to play, but I guess you get used to it 20:48:58 I'm also starting to think I'm just a bad person 20:49:14 Anerion: You're a crusher, can't you throw a mosquito? 20:49:14 gammafunk: well he could but 20:49:14 gammafunk: the hunger cost 20:49:49 followed of course by 20:49:49 Anerion: o 20:50:14 hm 20:50:26 so there are two spellbooks that aren't used by any monsters 20:50:28 I wonder 20:50:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3078-g82749e3: Remove some mon-spell detritus 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82749e328a9c 20:50:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3079-g02f55f3: Restore Lava Snakes' lava spit 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02f55f371c54 20:51:18 PleasingFungus: you missed a "GGGRRRUUUNNNTTT" 20:51:21 PleasingFungus: which spellbooks 20:51:36 Book #144 is unused 20:51:38 Book #227 is unused 20:51:40 I am currently trying to get 20:51:41 more useful information 20:51:48 (the list of spells they contain) 20:51:59 MST_SILVER_STAR is 144 20:52:13 MST_COLD_BREATH is apparently 227? 20:52:16 huh 20:53:45 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:40 do you think it would break things if we removed MST_SILVER_STAR 20:55:15 also, MST_COLD_BREATH might be because I'm not checking draconians properly 20:55:27 hm 20:55:29 maybe not 20:56:01 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3080-g16975f6: Add a little more debug info to missing spell tests 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=16975f622873 20:56:04 is that supposed to be for white dracs, or...? 20:56:19 -!- Cthulhu|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:56:27 no, they get SPELL_CHILLING_BREATH directly 20:57:00 <|amethyst> unused since 20:57:05 <|amethyst> %git 1fd93598 20:57:05 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1502-g1fd9359: Remove the Draconian Breath dummy spell. 10(7 weeks ago, 12 files, 93+ 176-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1fd935986227 20:57:11 rip 20:57:20 |amethyst, any idea if removing MST_SILVER_STAR will break things? 20:57:31 (also, did you see my earlier question wrt text wrapping in monster-spelldesc?) 20:57:33 <|amethyst> it shouldn't, since no monsters have it 20:57:37 ok 20:57:56 I guess AXED_MONS silver stars don't need it 20:58:05 <|amethyst> they don't have it :) 20:58:13 <|amethyst> AXED_MONS has MST_NO_SPELLS 20:58:32 ya 20:58:33 that's what I meant 20:58:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3081-gf25fdbf: Remove some unused spellbooks 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f25fdbf46813 20:59:19 -!- xug has quit [*.net *.split] 21:00:36 thank you for allowing cancelling blurry vision 21:00:46 ya that one was specifically for you 21:00:58 like I said, I tried to do it in my first implementation 21:01:00 but it didn't work then 21:01:03 for some reason? 21:01:05 and now it works 21:01:07 for some reason? 21:01:08 I figured it'd eventually go in 21:01:13 <|amethyst> hmm... I'm not sure "no" is really the safe answer for blurry vision 21:01:14 that death just really rankled me 21:01:29 |amethyst: what about for armour? 21:01:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you don't lose anything permanent if you cancel putting on armour 21:01:42 Brannock: were you temp-mutated? 21:01:51 |amethyst: nor if you cancel reading a scroll through blurryvis 21:01:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ohh 21:02:03 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I thought it was consumed at the beginning 21:02:06 no, I had blurry vision for a really long time. I had about 75 HP and tried to read ?blinking, got shredded one turn, got shredded the second turn, died 21:02:07 the scroll is only destroyed if you finish the blurryvis duration (and likewise the id, etc) 21:02:08 no 21:02:09 lemme dig up the tv 21:02:11 you can actually get the scroll stolen by maurice 21:02:14 while you're reading it 21:02:17 that owns 21:02:25 I put thought into this 21:02:51 ok, got the tv. it might run a bit fast since I play pretty quickly 21:02:53 !tv brannock hufi xl=21 21:02:53 1. Brannock, XL21 HuFi, T:45436 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:03:04 in that situation I absolutely would have canceled the read 21:03:07 and quaffed !hw or something 21:03:11 or fan of gales 21:03:27 hm 21:03:29 ??lg 21:03:29 listgame[1/5]: !lg command displays info about past games. The manual is available here: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md 21:04:00 fan of gales is soooo good now thanks to grunt's change 21:04:00 !tv brannock hufi xl=21 :<0.5:x0.3 21:04:01 Broken query near '<0.5:x0.3 -tv' 21:04:17 !lg brannock hufi xl=21 -tv:<0.5:x0.3 21:04:18 1. Brannock, XL21 HuFi, T:45436 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:04:37 eh 21:04:41 !lg brannock hufi xl=21 -tv:<0.8:x0.2 21:04:42 1. Brannock, XL21 HuFi, T:45436 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:05:04 bullet time 21:05:32 oh, geez, two scrolls in a row 21:05:34 that's tough, yeah 21:05:40 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: btw, no need to use emplace_back() in debug_monspells 21:05:44 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:05:49 is there any harm to it? 21:05:57 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:06:08 in retrospect there's a lot of stuff I could have done to not get myself in that situation (like Is aid -- not a mistake I would make again) but I didn't realize I was locked into 2 turns for blurry 21:06:24 <|amethyst> not really, no 21:06:33 so this change is great to see 21:06:43 I figured it wasn't really doing anything, but it seemed like a good habit to get into (using emplace_back) 21:06:57 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: well, the two are different 21:07:05 Brannock: I still don't know how much good it'll do when you're playing that fast 21:07:08 but v0v 21:07:21 I like my 3-4 hour victories :o 21:07:32 !log brannock hufi xl=21 21:07:32 1. Brannock, XL21 HuFi, T:45436: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Brannock/morgue-Brannock-20141209-185601.txt 21:07:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: emplace_back takes constructor parameters rather than the object to be inserted 21:07:36 I need to insert more force-mores into my rcfile 21:07:43 to facilitiate my speed 21:08:15 oh 21:08:15 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: though I guess in the worst case you'd just be calling the copy constructor instead of calling the assignment operator 21:08:17 it was blurry vision 3 21:08:17 fuck 21:08:19 yeah 21:08:20 that explains it 21:08:21 4 turns per scroll 21:08:26 blurry vision causes in that game: purple meat, glow, glow 21:08:48 I am not really sure how you got that much contam; it was in lair:6? 21:08:55 abyssed 21:08:57 I think 21:09:00 no 21:09:09 20171 | IceCv | Killed a frost giant 21:09:11 20424 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: Scrolls take you longer to read. [mutagenic glow] 21:09:12 20472 | Lair:6 | Gained mutation: Scrolls take you much longer to read. [mutagenic glow] 21:09:14 21368 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 21:09:21 hm. trying to remember 21:09:38 I would guess that you hasted up like crazy for the icecv end, but that's a while for glow to last 21:09:42 I completely skipped over that, may have been a Contam item 21:09:48 could be 21:09:57 that explains why Id idn't realize I got the 3rd level of that mut though 21:10:02 I was assuming I had blurry 1 21:10:04 from the purple 21:10:06 yeah blurryvis 3 is 21:10:06 well, mystery solved 21:10:08 very nasty 21:10:47 is there a way to tv a specific turn 21:10:50 yes 21:10:59 reading guide now, will dig up that contam situation 21:11:15 ctrl-f "Play from turn 100 - 5000" 21:11:23 ah, thanks 21:11:31 (I had to look it up too) 21:11:37 hm 21:12:13 !lg . hufi xl=21 -tv:t20500 21:12:14 1. Brannock, XL21 HuFi, T:45436 requested for FooTV: telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org. 21:12:30 oh, need caps 21:12:35 nvm 21:13:10 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:13:34 8 hp 21:13:39 -!- rophy has quit [Client Quit] 21:14:15 haste to get out of the slow status... oh, distortion 21:14:22 there we go 21:14:24 there we go. 21:14:32 ??grunt 21:14:32 grunt[1/27]: dang rip 21:14:37 I guess that's a force more for mutation from glow, then! 21:14:40 oh, I just saw the first vision blur 21:14:51 dang that was fast 21:14:53 yeah 21:15:08 thank you for the solved mystery 21:15:42 I love detective work like this 21:15:43 because 21:15:45 I am a huge nerd 21:16:54 -!- PleasingFungus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:17:05 1learn add PleasingFungus 21:17:32 I on the other hand am a crappy detective 21:17:43 not sure why the default toml config file just borks upon loading 21:17:47 or while trying to load 21:17:59 guess I have to debug the damn toml module 21:18:26 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:36 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:42 while pair[-1][0] != ' ' and pair[-1][0] != '\t' and pair[-1][0] != '"' and pair[-1][0] != '[' and pair[-1] != 'true' and pair[-1] != 'false': 21:18:43 tbh the real thing is that it's so hard to notice how long your actions take 21:18:47 in crawl 21:19:27 1.0, 1.5, 2.0, 4.0 21:19:27 that is a well-crafted while condition indeed 21:21:31 why is the toml module parsing commented lines... 21:21:38 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 21:23:37 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:23:37 The build was broken. (master - aadef77 #1070 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/43672577 21:23:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:24:22 hm 21:24:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3082-g73088b9: Slay the undead minotaur 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=73088b9a61a4 21:24:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3083-g2136eef: Fix a typo 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2136eefe82fa 21:24:35 I really have no idea what the name of that vault is 21:24:35 the one with the gold and the plants 21:25:46 !vault minmay_gold_behind_plants 21:25:47 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des;hb=HEAD#l3017 21:25:48 -!- Yllodra has quit [] 21:25:52 PleasingFungus: ^ 21:25:57 good vault name :) 21:26:02 thanks! 21:26:06 man, to have known the old minmay 21:26:09 also plz appreciate 2136ee 21:26:33 wow 21:26:35 good catch 21:27:01 was grepping around for "plant" 21:30:16 ... 21:30:19 !vault evilmike_boring_beetle 21:30:20 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l2100 21:30:22 is that for real 21:30:32 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:45 hm 21:30:49 man 21:30:53 looks utterly enourmous 21:30:59 I still want to know what the vault is that generates boring beetles on d:1 21:33:05 -!- Pluie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:47 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3084-gcc2a4a9: Replace plants with something more pleasing 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc2a4a97b34b 21:36:13 ...wow 21:36:43 the following line in the toml config file confused the parser: # =============================================== 21:36:59 since although the toml parser looks for comments, it also looks for = for assignment 21:37:04 oops 21:37:07 silly toml 21:39:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:41:28 ug, this parser is just kind of bad 21:42:00 as far as I can tell it will always misparse the first line of a file if it begins with a comment 21:42:38 is this our own home-grown parser, or did we take it from somewhere? 21:42:38 *unless*, the first character of said comment-only line 21:42:44 is a space or tab 21:42:54 it's from the website of the guy who made the format 21:43:24 maybe it's been fixed 21:43:26 let me check 21:44:17 heh, "From Twitter rage to reality; TOML is now a thing." 21:44:30 PleasingFungus: maybe something good will come from crawlcode 21:44:39 heh 21:49:24 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:40 I follow crawlcode so I can use relevant snippets in my own games (since it obviously helped make crawl what it is) 21:51:01 oh I see, the format inventor didn't make this parser 21:52:00 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:54:00 wait is that an opportunity to improve something 21:54:59 thought toml was mit or something 21:55:52 hm 21:56:13 I'm considering removing wolf spiders/trapdoor spiders/redbacks as rare deep lair spawns 21:56:29 seems like something we want to be a little more special for spider 21:58:13 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:13 The build was broken. (master - 82749e3 #1071 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/43672690 21:58:13 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:58:19 !lg * lair kmap= 21:58:33 !lg 21:58:38 hm 21:58:43 69034. deathrave the Spry (L14 KoAs of Okawaru), engulfed by a fire crab's flame on Lair:8 on 2014-12-11 03:55:43, with 35805 points after 24341 turns and 1:26:07. 21:58:43 they dont actually spawn in lair do they 21:58:44 371. PleasingFungus the Magician (L1 GhWz), slain by an ooze on D:1 (mrwooster_arrival_statue) on 2014-12-09 04:04:04, with 0 points after 36 turns and 0:00:21. 21:58:49 simmarine: they do. 21:58:51 i just thought they were part of spider entrance vaults 21:58:58 thats pretty bad/weird then 21:59:14 !lg * lair kmap= lvl>=4 / cikiller="a trapdoor spider" 21:59:24 !lg * lair kmap= lvl>=4 recent / cikiller="a trapdoor spider" 21:59:28 if sl[i] == ']' and not openstring and not keygroup and not arrayoftables: 21:59:31 if keygroup: 21:59:33 ... 21:59:34 !lg * lair kmap= lvl>=5 recent / cikiller="a redback" 21:59:35 keygroup = False 21:59:40 !lg * lair kmap= lvl>=5 recent / cikiller="a wolf spider" 21:59:57 39/30444 games for * (lair kmap= lvl>=4): N=39/30444 (0.13%) 22:00:19 I mean, it's right under your condition? 22:00:32 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:00:39 28/4261 games for * (lair kmap= lvl>=5 recent): N=28/4261 (0.66%) 22:00:49 I hope sequell isn't sick. 22:01:01 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:01:20 25/4261 games for * (lair kmap= lvl>=5 recent): N=25/4261 (0.59%) 22:01:43 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:56 * chequers feeds Sequell chicken soup 22:02:03 7/5744 games for * (lair kmap= lvl>=4 recent): N=7/5744 (0.12%) 22:02:43 -!- clouded_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03:20 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:22 !lg * lair kmap= lvl>5 recent / cikiller="a tarantella" 22:03:32 er 22:03:39 rip sequell? 22:04:02 1/3205 games for * (lair kmap= lvl>5 recent): N=1/3205 (0.03%) 22:04:07 huh 22:04:24 probably actually spawned in from spider stairs, in that case? 22:04:39 Nope it was on L:7 and spider isnt in my game nor is a spider mimic 22:04:44 no I mean 22:04:47 that lg 22:04:49 oh 22:04:50 not your game 22:04:54 Must be 22:05:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:05:24 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3085-ga746491: Remove Spider monster from deep Lair spawns 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7464916de86 22:06:31 augh 22:06:38 I re-read that twice and still missed the missing 's' 22:06:52 -!- cr0ne has quit [Client Quit] 22:07:41 no I thought the point of that commit was to remove the s 22:07:49 ahahahahHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 22:07:59 !banish gammafunk 22:07:59 PleasingFungus casts a spell. gammafunk is devoured by a tear in reality! 22:08:35 03|amethyst02 07[monsterspelldesc] * 0.16-a0-3078-gb1937b5: Be sign correct. 10(76 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1937b5ee282 22:08:35 03|amethyst02 07[monsterspelldesc] * 0.16-a0-3079-g4258e24: Wrap description text again. 10(63 seconds ago, 5 files, 21+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4258e2491e83 22:08:41 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08:51 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: there you go 22:08:52 |amethyst: huzzah! 22:08:54 :) 22:09:06 you never replied earlier; I thought you were distracted and/or ignoring me. 22:09:22 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I was distracted by your question :) 22:09:29 heh 22:10:38 |amethyst: I think this one might be ready to rebase into trunk. 22:10:47 testing now. 22:10:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3086-ga63ba9b: Be sign-correct. 10(59 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a63ba9b3ceb2 22:11:27 <|amethyst> (not the same as the one in the branch, but the same idea) 22:12:11 ya 22:12:50 <|amethyst> though I have to wonder if there's some better way to do all that than the nested nested loops 22:13:16 not sure about the monster spellbooks thing 22:13:27 in general that code should be split up into more functions and flattened and tidied 22:13:32 it's a verrry rough first draft 22:13:43 <|amethyst> I didn't really look too hard into what exactly it was doing, but it feels like you should be able to use sets or maps to avoid having to do repeated scans 22:14:25 -!- gvp has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:14:40 hm. the actual monster description text (at the top) still isn't being properly wrapped for me 22:14:56 <|amethyst> oh? 22:15:20 %git webtiles-changes 22:15:20 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-2387-gecbfb77: Fixes and reductions to the devteam crawl account list 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 15+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecbfb77c1971 22:15:27 %git webtiles-changes^1 22:15:27 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-2386-g385ad85: Colour tweaks for player titles (PleasingFungus) 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=385ad857633f 22:15:29 |amethyst: http://i.imgur.com/WLokmLN.png 22:15:30 hrm 22:15:41 tinytermtesting 22:16:09 -!- Cthulhu|Jho has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:21 <|amethyst> hrm 22:16:54 So, did you guys figure out what was wrong? 22:17:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: double-check that you're actually running 4258e24? 22:17:37 <|amethyst> that looks exactly like it did before 22:17:39 <|amethyst> hm 22:18:04 ??oops 22:18:04 pleasingfungus[1/18]: oops 22:18:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I did notice one oddity 22:18:50 oh? 22:18:53 yeah, that works now 22:19:05 <|amethyst> let me check something, sec 22:21:12 <|amethyst> the oddity: it's a little weird that the desc scrolls but the quote doesn't 22:21:24 <|amethyst> I mean, few of our quotes are long enough for it to matter 22:21:42 <|amethyst> but several times I accidentally left the screen by pressing ! 22:22:11 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:15 <|amethyst> not sure what do do, maybe leaving the quote screen via anything but esc/!/etc should return to the description 22:22:18 <|amethyst> ? 22:23:13 Ping 22:24:00 <|amethyst> Cthulhu|Jho: the sprint thing? 22:24:15 <|amethyst> Cthulhu|Jho: does it happen every time you start a new sprint game? 22:24:32 No, it just happens somewhat randomly, but it does occur repeatedly 22:24:49 <|amethyst> hm 22:25:12 It might be something on my end, though I don't know what 22:25:50 <|amethyst> does it happen with other maps or just Red Sonja? 22:26:27 It happens with other maps, and sometimes even the main game, though that doesn't happen nearly as much 22:26:41 <|amethyst> Are you using any custom lua in your rc? 22:26:46 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:26:54 |amethyst: we could make a separate formatted_scroller for the quote, though at present there are no quotes that scroll, I think. 22:27:05 Nope, it's all default 22:27:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: quarterstaff but that's not a monster quote 22:27:11 If there were, they would have broken the formatting before, since we've never supported scrolling monster quotes 22:27:12 yes 22:27:15 <|amethyst> Cthulhu|Jho: file a report on mantis 22:27:20 Okay 22:27:38 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: (you can only see quarterstaff quote if you have a big screen, and even then you have to have a real quarterstaff, ?/i doesn't work) 22:27:48 well, hm. there's a lot of custom weird formatting code for quotes 22:28:00 so idk how easy it would be to make a separate formatted_scroller for it 22:28:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you mean the newline, space thing? 22:29:08 !source process_desc.h 22:29:09 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/process_desc.h;hb=HEAD 22:29:12 this thing 22:29:28 with its 'my kingdom for a closure' 22:30:36 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:57 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:57 The build was broken. (master - 02f55f3 #1072 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/43672828 22:30:57 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:31:12 -!- Guest1936 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 22:31:26 someone should really fix the numpad double move thing 22:31:55 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: AFAICT the purpose of all of that is to make things fit on the screen 22:32:20 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so it's not necessary if you use a scroller 22:32:39 Lasty (L24 HuWr) ASSERT(you.see_cell(target())) in 'directn.cc' at line 1243 failed. (Depths:3) 22:32:42 neat. 22:33:06 Additional background: there were both dith and catoblepas clouds and I was targeting a wand of draining 22:33:22 hm 22:33:24 someone should also fix the numpad 7 == y thing 22:33:28 7 == y? 22:33:36 people keep complaining about that 22:33:50 -!- cr0ne has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:33:52 where they get a prompt and press 7 to move northwest and end up saying y to the prompt 22:33:53 <|amethyst> doy: what OS/interface? 22:33:55 huh 22:33:56 neat 22:33:56 i don't know 22:34:03 <|amethyst> if they use putty with nethack keypad... 22:34:10 i've never seen it myself, but i also don't have a numpad 22:34:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:34:35 |amethyst: what does that do 22:35:00 <|amethyst> doy: maps keypad 7 to y, keypad 8 to k, etc 22:35:15 really 22:35:22 <|amethyst> I do think maybe we used to do that ourselves, because I've seen reference to it 22:35:44 what is even the purpose of that 22:35:47 <|amethyst> but in console (local and ssh), I've never seen numpad 7 interpreted as y 22:35:50 nethack has a real numpad option 22:36:14 <|amethyst> doy: to make up for bad terminal definitions probably 22:36:27 hmmm, i guess 22:36:32 <|amethyst> I suppose you could use it to play vi, too 22:36:37 still seems like an amazingly dumb workaround 22:37:33 hey doy, tileschat FR: the Lernaean hydra of Hell 22:38:09 heh 22:38:50 !lg * en s=crace recent / won o=% 22:38:52 204/30287 games for * (en recent): 4/94x Minotaur [4.26%], 6/209x Troll [2.87%], 5/182x Demigod [2.75%], 11/496x Demonspawn [2.22%], 6/340x Ogre [1.76%], 1/58x Ghoul [1.72%], 2/165x Draconian [1.21%], 5/422x Formicid [1.18%], 1/98x Human [1.02%], 2/205x Hill Orc [0.98%], 8/890x Deep Elf [0.90%], 1/127x Mummy [0.79%], 1/129x Tengu [0.78%], 47/7316x Vampire [0.64%], 78/12252x Spriggan [0.64%], 14/29... 22:38:55 uh 22:38:56 hm 22:39:00 MiEn doesn't count!!! 22:39:04 apparently 22:39:09 neither does TrEn!!!!!! 22:39:18 !lg * mien recent s=skill 22:39:18 94 games for * (mien recent): 22x Dodging, 20x Maces & Flails, 14x Stealth, 12x Fighting, 10x Short Blades, 6x Axes, 4x Armour, 2x Polearms, 2x Long Blades, Hexes, Conjurations 22:39:21 !lg * mien recent s=skill won 22:39:22 4 games for * (mien recent won): 3x Fighting, Armour 22:40:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: Alternatively, we could just put the quote at the end 22:41:07 -!- AlexM___ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:42:02 that screen is already insanely long 22:42:25 hm 22:43:20 <|amethyst> could still keep ! as a key to jump to the quote part and back to the top 22:43:55 <|amethyst> (I secretly want people to read more quotes :P) 22:44:10 heh 22:44:12 idk 22:44:32 -!- AlexM____ has quit [] 22:44:59 I tried to do a simple fix (putting the quote in a formatted scroller) but it's all kinds of broken for reasons unclear to me 22:45:06 maybe we can sort this out in trunk 22:45:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you'll probably want to do the same add_text think with a wrap_col 22:45:42 <|amethyst> s/think/thing/ 22:45:59 <|amethyst> quotes (and descs) get unwrapped to one line per paragraph when they're pulled from the db 22:46:25 <|amethyst> and formatted_scroller doesn't handle such long lines very well 22:46:50 <|amethyst> but, yeah, that shouldn't keep it out of trunk 22:51:38 03PleasingFungus02 07[monsterspelldesc] * 0.16-a0-3080-gb19705b: Make monster quotes scrollable (|amethyst) 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 10+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b19705bce3df 22:53:41 -!- xug has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:53:59 mon-util.cc: In function ‘void debug_monspells()’: 22:53:59 mon-util.cc:4618:72: warning: format ‘%d’ expects argument of type ‘int’, but argument 3 has type ‘size_t {aka long unsigned int}’ [-Wformat=] book_name = make_stringf("%s-%d", mons_name, book_index); 22:54:10 <|amethyst> oh doh 22:55:24 <|amethyst> hm 22:55:24 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 22:55:36 <|amethyst> what branch did I add the PRIuSIZET thing in? 22:55:47 the what 22:56:54 <|amethyst> oh, that's in monsterspelldesc branch :) 22:57:04 <|amethyst> %git c80596724 22:57:04 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2943-gc805967: Add and use a -style printf macro for size_t 10(8 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8059672435a 22:58:48 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3087-gc8180c5: Be even more sign- and size-correct (Grunt) 10(52 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8180c5fd89b 22:59:31 <|amethyst> when monsterspelldesc is merged, that can be improved to make_stringf("%s-%" PRIuSIZET, mons_name, book_index) 22:59:53 <|amethyst> you know, in case we get monsters with over 2 billion spellbooks 23:00:44 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:02:14 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 34.0.5/20141126041045]] 23:02:27 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:27 The build has errored. (master - 16975f6 #1073 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/43673285 23:02:27 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 23:02:51 time to try something with one of my new toys 23:03:02 seeing as I've had a chance to play with it in real game conditions now 23:03:09 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-3088-g149bcfb: Add a small chance of confusing actors pulled with Gell's. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=149bcfb01006 23:03:12 -!- warrigal2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:03:49 |amethyst: combinatorial spellbooks...! 23:05:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:08:01 man this rebase is a mess :( 23:09:21 i will continue to recommend https://github.com/mhagger/git-imerge for dealing with messy rebases 23:09:23 |amethyst: hrm, right now webtiles-changes tries to do a chown to uid, gid which default to 0,0 23:10:08 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:10:21 <|amethyst> what tries to chown what? 23:10:39 sorry, the server triest to chown the pidfile 23:10:42 <|amethyst> chown requires root, so I doubt that's going to work in most situations 23:10:56 <|amethyst> oh 23:11:01 <|amethyst> this is before dropping privs 23:11:20 yes 23:11:27 write_pidfile() 23:11:27 servers = bind_server() 23:11:27 shed_privileges() 23:11:35 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:12:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3089-g3785f85: New monster spell description UI 10(13 days ago, 5 files, 208+ 132-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3785f85c8a24 23:12:02 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-3090-gd2e1873: Add and use a -style printf macro for size_t 10(8 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2e1873ae395 23:12:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3091-g34d06bb: Make monster spell lists two-column 10(8 days ago, 2 files, 46+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34d06bb1acb1 23:12:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3092-gb0e352f: Change spell descriptions to use a scroller 10(26 hours ago, 1 file, 50+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b0e352fb09f5 23:12:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3093-g3cb7808: Allow selecting monster spell descriptions 10(25 hours ago, 3 files, 46+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3cb7808ecfa2 23:12:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3094-gc5cb3ca: Support monster quotes again 10(24 hours ago, 3 files, 59+ 34-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c5cb3caafb20 23:12:02 03|amethyst02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-3095-gf00d704: Wrap description text again. 10(65 minutes ago, 5 files, 21+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f00d7044da5d 23:12:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3096-gee62c12: Make monster quotes scrollable (|amethyst) 10(24 minutes ago, 4 files, 10+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee62c122ebf5 23:12:04 I guess I should just set it to my uid, gid, but maybe a default of users current uid, gid? 23:12:06 not sure what the standard behavior is there 23:12:44 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! 23:12:52 there we go 23:12:54 I think that's it. 23:13:07 there's a small bug where 23:13:12 you can select and cast monster spells 23:13:17 low priority to fix that though 23:13:18 hahaha 23:13:20 sounds good to me 23:13:25 <|amethyst> gammafunk: are you setting uid and gid right now? 23:13:29 hm 23:13:31 |amethyst: no 23:13:38 it defaults it to 0 if they don't exist 23:13:51 grunt or gammafunk: do either you have any ideas wrt the "numpad inputs movement twice on osx tiles" thing 23:14:02 apologies if I've asked this before, my memory is godawful 23:14:05 PleasingFungus: ugh 23:14:09 PleasingFungus: ugh 23:14:11 <|amethyst> gammafunk: chown won't work at all if you aren't root currently 23:14:14 (also I thought I had fixed that) 23:14:14 ??ugh 23:14:14 ugh ~ gh ~ ghoul[1/3]: Player ghouls have claws 1 (see {unarmed combat}), rN+++, rC+, poison and torment immunity. They also rot over time. Eating chunks can cure rot and/or restore HP. Monster ghouls are quite powerful, have a ton of HP, and rot you. 23:14:23 wait 23:14:26 <|amethyst> gammafunk: so maybe it should check for root and just not do the chown if you are 23:14:27 *specifically* the numpad? 23:14:30 let me double-check 23:14:31 <|amethyst> s/are/aren't/ 23:14:50 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:14:51 there might be some weird special SDL1 cases left in the code 23:14:51 |amethyst: ok, hopefully that's straightforward 23:14:56 <|amethyst> Grunt: it's not most keys, anyway, but I think not *just* numpad 23:15:07 <|amethyst> Grunt: ISTR some mouse clicks had similar problems? 23:15:15 <|amethyst> haven't tried starting up tiles in a while 23:15:23 I heard about some mouseclick brokenness - we were talking about it earlier today 23:15:26 the mouse click thing is gammafunk's fault 23:15:30 it was introduced with the resize fix 23:15:33 !blame gammafunk 23:15:33 I pronounce gammafunk... Guilty! 23:15:38 yeah I need to get to fixing that bug 23:15:41 <|amethyst> gammafunk: actually, if uid and gid aren't specified it shouldn't chown at all 23:16:00 numpad is doubled; arrow keys and vikeys are not 23:16:05 <|amethyst> gammafunk: the point of that chown is to leave the pidfile accessible after shedding privs 23:16:10 mouse seems to work fine for me 23:16:18 PleasingFungus: the name of the monster is no longer the header on the xv screen 23:16:21 <|amethyst> gammafunk: (I haven't looked into why that's necessary) 23:16:34 oh, hm 23:16:41 Grunt: oops 23:16:43 one sec 23:16:45 ??oops 23:16:45 pleasingfungus[1/18]: oops 23:16:47 <|amethyst> gammafunk: and if uid and gid are set, you need root anyway for the setuid/setgid 23:17:28 |amethyst: so it sounds like I can just test for those vars and do nothing if either is unset 23:17:40 <|amethyst> gammafunk: hm 23:17:46 well they default to 0, so 23:17:53 I guess if they're set to 0 23:17:56 <|amethyst> gammafunk: they don't default to zero 23:17:56 then there's no point to chown 23:18:04 uid = config.get("uid", 0) 23:18:04 gid = config.get("gid", 0) 23:18:06 <|amethyst> they default to None 23:18:06 they do 23:18:12 <|amethyst> that lookup defaults them to 0 23:18:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-3097-g494c3d7: Don't claim that ctrl-clicking opens doors 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=494c3d758021 23:18:28 <|amethyst> shed_privileges does a different lookup 23:18:39 <|amethyst> I'm saying that lookup shouldn't default them to zero 23:18:53 well I guess the question is what does None mean 23:19:08 <|amethyst> "don't change privileges" 23:19:20 <|amethyst> except I guess one could be None and the other not 23:19:32 ok, in which case you don't need to chown pid file 23:19:33 <|amethyst> so "don't change my uid/don't change my gid" 23:19:36 <|amethyst> yeah 23:19:38 <|amethyst> but 23:19:53 <|amethyst> if gid is set and uid is not set, you probably do want to do half the chown? 23:19:54 hm. not sure what the best way to re-add monster name to the top is 23:20:11 dunno, seems maybe better to assume incorrect config 23:20:29 also I hope this doesn't break webtiles 23:20:32 I'm not able to test that 23:20:34 yeah but shed priv. doesn't do that 23:20:35 probably should have asked one of you 23:20:39 <|amethyst> gammafunk: well, shed_privileges handles that case already 23:21:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it at least works with a webtiles binary in console mode! 23:21:22 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:21:47 It works in webtiles, but it produces this odd message 23:21:55 Macz R L@m3 23:22:04 dunno why 23:22:12 dang 23:22:14 mysterious 23:22:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm 23:22:49 <|amethyst> oh doh 23:22:53 ??doh 23:22:53 |amethyst[1/19]: <|amethyst> doh 23:23:40 <|amethyst> it would help if I were running the new version 23:24:06 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:24:06 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-3086-ga63ba9b (34) 23:24:07 !tell Grunt in f5291b42 you said (re: spider rune vaults) "especially those that leverage some of the more recent additions to the game". anything in particular? 23:24:08 johnstein: OK, I'll let grunt know. 23:24:28 (also directed towards anyone else in here who may have an opinion) 23:24:28 johnstein: I was more thinking of some of the ideas that have been floating around for new spider enemies 23:24:31 but 23:24:35 we do have things like torpor snails in spider now 23:24:43 yea. I've got him in there 23:24:51 and arachne, if she hasn't spawned yet 23:25:39 Your branch is ahead of 'origin/webtiles-changes' by 3191 commits. 23:25:50 easy merge for webtiles-changes, but dats a lotta commits 23:25:59 d a n g 23:26:01 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/dev/spider.des for in-progress of pared down version. I haven't yet reworked the monster placement so the 4s, 5s, and 6s probably don't make sense 23:26:38 theTower also strongly suggested some pillars. draft version of pillars included as well 23:26:56 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hmm... the blank lines don't show up in webtiles 23:26:59 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:27:01 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: otherwise it seems fine 23:28:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: got it... this feels kind of like a hack, but 23:29:01 !send |amethyst // XXX 23:29:01 Sending // XXX to |amethyst. 23:30:43 man, did K tiles get tweaked? 23:30:51 %git HEAD^{/obold} 23:30:51 07roctavian02 * 0.16-a0-2971-g9485023: Minor iterations for kobold and greatsword tiles. 10(6 days ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=948502301a2b 23:31:10 dang, they got tiny eety bitty heads 23:31:20 I kinda like it 23:32:23 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:36 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 23:36:49 |amethyst: ? 23:37:21 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: testing local tiles too before I push 23:37:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:26 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and the build is slowish 23:38:11 !file webserver/ws_handler.py: 23:38:11 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/webserver/ws_handler.py;hb=HEAD 23:39:05 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3098-g3999134: Make empty lines show up in webtiles xv again. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3999134136dd 23:39:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:41:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3099-g2ec9ae5: Format some quotes. 10(17 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ec9ae57312d 23:41:56 oh 23:41:58 %git 787e3d9eb9 23:41:58 07edlothiol02 * 0.16-a0-168-g787e3d9: Webtiles: Handle tiles that overlap the tile to the left (#8877). 10(4 months ago, 3 files, 25+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=787e3d9eb90a 23:42:01 <|amethyst> I don't really like this new trend (started with the MTG flavour text quote I think) of attributing quotes to the in-universe speakers rather than the authors 23:42:12 sorry 23:42:25 I wasn't sure how to handle it 23:42:46 ...though the doom thing is attributed to the authors 23:42:50 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 23:42:58 <|amethyst> ah, yes 23:43:02 <|amethyst> which was it 23:43:10 (by "it" I mean the weird hellthingey movie quote) 23:43:15 <|amethyst> ah 23:43:16 that ramc? submitted 23:43:19 <|amethyst> yeah, the Pinhead quote 23:43:54 mm 23:43:56 <|amethyst> could attribute it to Peter Atkins and Tony Randel, as the screenwriters 23:44:01 patches dug up and rebased and nudged 23:44:04 http://sprunge.us/RIiZ 23:44:10 (one new thing in there too) 23:44:11 <|amethyst> but who knows if that's how the line was written in the script 23:45:21 could attribute it to the actor 23:45:32 I guess? 23:46:18 <|amethyst> that doesn't sound right 23:46:45 <|amethyst> "I ate his liver" -Anthony Hopkins 23:46:52 sounds good to me 23:46:54 <|amethyst> :) 23:46:54 :p 23:47:34 mla style for this is hilariously verbose 23:47:41 idk if we use mla or the other one 23:47:57 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-3100-g569f156: Fix more quotes. 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=569f156a595a 23:48:00 or some homebrew thing 23:48:07 <|amethyst> we use something homebrew I'm sure 23:48:13 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:48:21 <|amethyst> should switch the quotes db over to bibtex 23:48:42 <|amethyst> then we can easily swap our bibliography style 23:49:12 I don't even know what bibtex is 23:49:19 wow 23:49:22 w h a t 23:49:35 * gammafunk mutters about Mac users 23:49:35 * Sequell also mutters about Mac users 23:49:43 thanks Sequell 23:50:39 That's Our Sequell 23:50:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it's like EndNote for more technical people 23:51:17 tbf although I've written a reasonable amount of latex, I've only written like 2 or 3 bibtex entries ever 23:51:17 <|amethyst> people who write papers in LaTeX 23:51:28 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:51:29 I also don't know what EndNote is 23:51:33 no need to get too texnical here 23:52:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: well, I don't know how things work in your "real world", but here in academia we have things called "papers" and at the end there are "citations" to other "papers" 23:53:12 otoh in this academic world 23:53:14 tenure exists 23:53:27 basically basically go crazy after a certain period of time 23:53:40 hence they use LaTex and bibtex 23:53:51 <|amethyst> BibTeX is how CS and maths and physics people manage citations; EndNote is how biologists and social scientists do 23:54:04 basically basically? clearly I also have gone crazy 23:54:14 <|amethyst> well, I'm sure plenty of CS and maths and physics people manage them by copy-pasting from one paper to the next 23:54:25 <|amethyst> BibTeX saves you time and does the copy-pasting for you 23:55:00 |amethyst: some of your putative endnote group seem to actually just use MS Word 23:55:48 <|amethyst> (and reformats them to meet the ridiculous demands of editors and publishers, because "MLA or that other one" is actually about 1 different styles per publisher, 3 or 4 for the big publishers) 23:55:56 <|amethyst> s/styles/style/ 23:56:12 <|amethyst> gammafunk: yeah 23:56:57 <|amethyst> gammafunk: just like some people write their bibliography in TeX 23:58:47 well you don't write your own bibtex entries you get them from mathscinet or whatever 23:58:55 -!- xug has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:59:01 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:59:40 <|amethyst> you're not quoting obscure enough papers then :)