00:00:05 <|amethyst> !learn add |amethyst <|amethyst> oh crap 00:00:05 |amethyst[18/18]: <|amethyst> oh crap 00:01:15 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2850-ga1f9c71: Fix compilation (doh) 10(44 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1f9c715c537 00:02:27 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 00:07:44 I wonder what can or should threaten undead specifically besides holy wrath, dispel undead, and control undead 00:08:36 being an undead is bad enough :( 00:09:47 if you mean player undead 00:10:01 I mean, for extendeded 00:10:31 excessive mutations -> rot 00:10:32 and specifically, for anything tar could get (besides already present shadow fiends) 00:11:01 ah, yes, the answer is wretched stars >_> 00:11:35 well 00:11:43 ghoul + wretched star -> bad things 00:12:04 Mostly due to ghoul int 00:12:13 finally, a use for sustab besides cboe 00:12:21 ( / malign / XXX) 00:12:39 malign?.. 00:12:43 gateway 00:12:44 o 00:12:47 i forgot that exists 00:12:52 shrug 00:13:07 anyway there is no way in tartarus I'm going to add wretched stars to tartarus, so 00:13:16 Good 00:13:29 could add more stat drain to the hell effects 00:14:13 it is cool to be suddenly heavily endangered but it's not cool to encourage resting for forever on mummies once you actually escape 00:14:17 imo vp and mu are pitiful all game and dont need special consideration for hells 00:14:27 shrugging 00:14:54 (obviously statflaying is the answer) 00:14:58 theTower: 4.1 had a solution for that 00:15:23 hrm, I too just found a scythe 00:15:27 is it that you don't heal lost stats naturally 00:15:31 found it where? 00:15:33 PF was saying earlier how those shouldn't generate normally 00:15:37 on the floor! 00:15:39 on d:8 00:15:43 mummies (all undead maybe) don't, yes 00:15:47 well there goes my vault guess 00:16:04 <|amethyst> gammafunk: did something swap a scythe for another weapon? 00:16:14 hrm, not to my knowledge 00:16:44 going to bring in 4.1 quasits, clearly 00:16:56 yes! 00:17:02 and the jellyfish 00:17:37 hellyfish with a paralysis hit and three strong poison hits 00:17:47 you mean jhellyfush 00:17:48 er 00:17:49 wow 00:17:50 rip 00:17:56 jhellyflush 00:18:06 hellectric eels too 00:18:30 (more of a Coc thing probably) 00:18:48 (maybe we can put titans in Coc to thwart fliers) 00:18:55 cocytus did already get hellemental hellsprings 00:19:34 something more natural than wellsprings is to abuse white draconian knockback + collision damage cold breath somehow, obviously 00:19:40 erm, natural than titans 00:19:56 titans 00:20:01 remind me who runs Coc these days >_> 00:20:20 (flimsy reasoning at its finest!!!) 00:20:21 the bs 00:20:25 i feel like shard shrikes are a threat in coc 00:20:27 some guy who forgot how to airstrike 00:20:29 wellsprings mostly just annoying 00:20:53 I was going to reduce their numbers in one or two ends 00:21:09 huh, d&d quasits have cause fear and invis, how wonderful 00:21:12 coc as first rune (after abyss) was an adventure 00:21:18 blizzard demon is the coc thing that should be scary but isn't it 00:21:27 huh 00:21:32 stupid freezing cloud nerf 00:21:37 isnt it ice fiends that should be scary 00:21:38 blizzard demon (122) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-81 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 20, 20 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(140), 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 1119 | Sp: b.lightning (3d18) [06!sil], freezing cloud (2d22) [06!sil], airstrike (0-34) [06!sil], b.cold (3d21) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 00:21:38 %??blizzard demon 00:21:41 or not common enough 00:21:51 20(cold), 20(elec) 00:21:56 ice fiend is scary 00:21:59 blizzard demon (122) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 73-104 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 20, 20 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(140), 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 1906 | Sp: b.lightning (3d21) [06!sil], freezing cloud (2d26) [06!sil], airstrike (0-42) [06!sil], b.cold (3d25) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 00:21:59 %??blizzard demon hd:16 00:22:01 i mean its only a 2 00:22:03 tabstorm: well the 2s in other branches are scary 00:22:18 hellion, reaper, and 00:22:20 tormentor, hellion, shadow demon (okay they aren't but they could be!) 00:22:22 reaper! 00:22:25 ... 00:22:31 i forget shadow demon is a 2 00:22:39 shadow demon (062) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 43-67 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 21 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(100), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 708 | Sp: shadow creatures [06!sil], sum.demon [06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: high. 00:22:39 %??shadow demon 00:22:42 are hell beasts 2's 00:22:45 yes 00:22:49 hmm 00:22:53 hell beasts should not be 2s in their current form 00:22:56 Nope 00:23:04 mooooore buffssssss 00:23:05 back to 4s 00:23:15 green deaths are sort of dangerousish if you lack rpois sometimes 00:23:29 or get caught in a bad position where you have to stand in pcloud 00:23:33 ??2 00:23:33 2[1/1]: The tier 2 demons. Summoned, along with {1}s, by {Summon Greater Demon}. They are: {balrug}, {blizzard demon}, {shadow demon}, {cacodemon}, {green death}, {hell beast}, {hellion}, {lorocyproca}, {reaper}, {tormentor}. 00:23:46 way 2 many 00:24:04 feels like there are greater 2's and lesser 2' 00:24:05 s 00:24:06 I guess if I suggest shadow demons to get af_shadow_creatures some people will rip their hair out 00:24:22 well they got taken down from 1s at one point, some of those greater 2 00:24:24 grunt: well a whole bunch were 1s previousl 00:24:27 o 00:24:32 yes I know that 00:24:41 old 1: green death 00:24:44 blue death 00:24:45 balrug 00:24:45 old 2: ice devil 00:24:47 cacodemon 00:24:52 and some were 3s originally 00:24:55 the terrifying ice devil 00:25:15 lorocyproca (022) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 61-95 | AC/EV: 10/12 | Dam: 4012(antimagic) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1278 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 00:25:15 %??lorocyproca 00:25:15 those are terrifying...in an ice cave without rc 00:25:41 you could just give blizz demons throw icicle for good dam 00:25:48 hellfrost 00:25:49 instead of BoL 00:25:59 I think blizzards work reasonably well 00:25:59 or replace fcloud with flashfreeze 00:26:05 if you want to buff them 00:26:11 I guess fcloud isn't great on them 00:26:17 blizzard demon (122) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 53-81 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 20, 20 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(140), 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 1119 | Sp: b.lightning (3d18) [06!sil], freezing cloud (2d22) [06!sil], airstrike (0-34) [06!sil], b.cold (3d21) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 00:26:17 %??blizzard_demon 00:26:17 -!- debo_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:24 It would be if clouds were meaningful. 00:26:28 outside of the early game 00:26:33 yeah I feel fcloud is the only weak one really 00:26:42 well if you dont have the resists 00:26:42 they are but by coc you do 00:26:48 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:26:48 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:52 coc is not exactly 00:26:54 their design space 00:26:54 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2850-ga1f9c71 (34) 00:27:14 fr make clouds not use elemental colours and then add greater freezing clouds 00:27:20 i mean we have shard shrikes now 00:27:22 maybe blizz demons need "Flight other" 00:27:33 rchandra: so tornado 00:27:46 summon twister, clearly 00:28:02 airstrike.i.mean.really.airstrike.good.200.natural 00:28:05 speaking of that, that was sort of annoyign with the storm card 00:28:18 "intentional" 00:28:20 when you summon a tornado and it screws with your positioning and almost drowns you in lava 00:28:24 but its at high power 00:28:25 ??? 00:28:38 <|amethyst> Grunt: make new cloud types for late game 00:28:38 it is powerful for killing things sure 00:28:40 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:47 <|amethyst> Grunt: I mean, same element, different name 00:28:47 that does sound like a bad interaction 00:28:55 tornado + placing lava? 00:29:01 ...it does not place lava. 00:29:07 ok good 00:29:07 well i was in an area with lava 00:29:09 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:09 it does place storm clouds, though, sometimes 00:29:13 didnt know it could do tornados 00:29:14 <|amethyst> Grunt: "inferno", "blizzard", etc 00:29:31 the twister tries to be far away from the player 00:29:35 and then i was like why am i flying over lava oh dang i should cast fly so i dont die 00:29:36 it could try harder 00:30:22 (...in placing the twister from the effect, not that the monster itself has any rhyme or reason to its confused movements.) 00:30:31 dang stack of 2 acquire 00:31:07 -!- _miek_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:38 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:34:25 -!- flowsnake_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:52 |amethyst: there aren't spare colours for more cloud types, is the thing, unless some other clouds are cut or freezing/flaming lose their colour-to-power-left scheme 00:37:14 -!- witty_ has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:14 -!- witty has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:14 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:14 -!- debo has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:14 -!- ontoclasm has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:14 -!- flowsnake has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:15 -!- kaiza_ has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:15 -!- MakMorn has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:15 -!- _miek has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:15 -!- bones_was_here has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:15 -!- lavos1 has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:15 -!- doy has quit [*.net *.split] 00:37:46 alternatively said scheme could correlate to damage so that you get extremely powerful freezing clouds that briefly do giant damage later on? but this seems quite awkward to communiwhatever 00:37:49 <|amethyst> theTower: could invent new etc colours, though you would need multiple redraws to tell 00:38:02 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:38:15 stupid console colour limits 00:38:16 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:17 <|amethyst> (you already do, though) 00:38:29 when can we get 256 colour 00:38:47 <|amethyst> 256-colour would be nice, but ttyrecs are a problem 00:38:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:50 The build passed. (master - a1f9c71 #873 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42454963 00:38:50 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:39:02 stupid ttyrecs :P 00:39:17 <|amethyst> and implementation details, of course 00:39:20 <|amethyst> but 00:39:35 <|amethyst> I don't think it would be good to rely on fine gradations to distinguish things 00:39:52 <|amethyst> it would make sense for animations, though 00:39:54 probably not in any extreme aspect 00:40:33 even with 16 colours sometimes I mix up foo and lightfoo 00:40:38 <|amethyst> currently, colourblind players can map red and green (or whatever) to different enough colours they can be distinguished 00:40:45 <|amethyst> that isn't possible with 256colour 00:41:06 <|amethyst> (not with most terminals, anyway) 00:41:35 yeah, another problem 00:41:48 (...hmmm, I wonder if crawl should have a colourblind-support option) 00:42:05 <|amethyst> I think probably the terminal is the best way to do that 00:42:12 <|amethyst> that and not have palette-swaps in tiles 00:42:24 <|amethyst> not meaningful ones, that is 00:42:41 draconians... 00:43:11 or in fixable areas those bloody robes on loody deep elves and orcs 00:43:33 oh, is xom piety meter just broken in webtiles? 00:43:46 gammafunk: probably 00:43:52 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:43:54 ah, people hate javascript, I forgot 00:44:06 maybe I can fix that this weekend if no one gets to it 00:44:16 <|amethyst> go for it 00:45:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:45:24 I...will...CODE IT!!! 00:45:29 * gammafunk falls asleep 00:45:41 ?/go to sleep 00:45:42 Matching entries (2): mumra[1] | step_from_time[1] 00:45:48 ??mumra[1 00:45:49 mumra[1/1]: mumra: go to sleep; isn't it like 7AM where you are? :b go to sleep? i got MSVC all fixed up so i could start coding :P 00:48:05 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 00:49:31 Tortuga (L27 HOBe) (Crypt:3) 00:49:44 !crashlog tortuga 00:49:44 -!- ruwin has quit [] 00:49:44 1. 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Tortuga, XL27 HOBe, T:83511 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Tortuga/crash-Tortuga-20141129-065610.txt 00:57:07 i guess you could sidestep it as i did with "vicious glare" 00:57:15 gammafunk: that is like such an ancient vault 00:57:15 I've had 3 crashes on this Crypt End 00:57:15 Tortuga: your bug will go away when cbro rebuilds 00:57:22 Okay, thanks. 00:57:30 which is in a few minutes 00:57:31 :) 00:57:44 theTower: don't you agree it's kind of annoying? with the minmay vault they can't chase you, at least 00:57:48 Tortuga (L27 HOBe) (Crypt:3) 00:58:00 !vault dragon1_lemuel 141 ORIENT: northeast 00:58:00 Couldn't understand 141 ORIENT: northeast 00:58:03 whoops 00:58:12 !vault dragon1_lemuel 00:58:13 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_themed.des;hb=HEAD#l140 00:58:16 ....llleeemmmuuueeelll 00:58:42 ...item potion of flight 00:58:43 they were more relaxed days 00:58:46 !learn add lemuel llleeemmmuuueeelll 00:58:47 lemuel[9/9]: llleeemmmuuueeelll 00:58:57 oh I can dig? 00:59:03 no you can't 00:59:07 those are level borders 00:59:10 !learn edit wheals[8] s/^/ / 00:59:11 wheals[8/8]: wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 00:59:16 (again, more frustrating relaxed days) 00:59:40 just revisit it again later 00:59:59 (an identified potion of flight on either side of the pond sounds reasonable, though 01:00:26 also this randomization is the messiest stuff I've ever seen sheesh 01:01:11 welcome to lemuel vaults 01:01:34 well yeah I know revisit it later, but mf are immmpatient 01:01:57 it reminds me of cleaning up lethe 01:07:25 03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-2851-g103dd5a: Scattered minor monster tweaks. 10(83 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=103dd5a78740 01:16:57 -!- penciltax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 01:18:37 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:20:14 -!- cr0ne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25:18 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 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0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b3e50b52df8 09:16:54 -!- eliana has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:18:29 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:25 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:04 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:24:02 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:25:39 -!- qoon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:26:39 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:51 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:15 thinking over sap magic again: trying to preserve the aspects of it being a debilitation that is based on a player's response and directly attacks pure conjurers in extended (rarely), without the interface burden / extreme results of negative spell sucess rates changing with each cast 09:29:15 is it intentional casting EW while wielding a disto weapon triggers the disto effect 09:29:24 (this happens even if you miscast EW) 09:29:41 I wonder if tripling spell mp costs would be better than the -Wiz part as such 09:30:40 I'm 99% sure previously you could temp brand a disto weapon but you'd still suffer disto unwield effects if you tried to swap the weapon away 09:31:05 now it's the other way around, you can't temp brand it without disto effects but you can unwield it afterwards safely 09:32:11 my barely-awake brain is failing to remember what non-enchant-weapon EW stands for 09:32:20 excruciating wounds 09:32:29 (temp pain) 09:32:29 ahhhhhh 09:33:04 that does seem like a regression but I am not entirely sure what ideal behaviour would be here 09:33:05 doubling mp costs would probably do instead of tripling 09:33:22 it should just fizzle out into the abyss 09:33:51 theTower: this is probably worth a mantis ticket? 09:33:54 the miscast part if nothing else 09:35:04 sure 09:40:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:44:38 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:46:23 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:47:46 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:49:00 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:44 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Changing host] 09:52:04 Possibly weird interaction between distortion and Excrucating Wounds. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9278 by Kvaak 09:52:47 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:54:03 Nantukoshade (L25 FoFi) (Depths:5) 09:54:50 -!- dis- has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:20 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:56:25 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:25 The build was broken. (master - 3b3e50b #876 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42479222 09:56:25 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:58:05 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:01:11 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:04:25 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:06:57 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:10:39 -!- caricature has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:17:38 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:02 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:35 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:40:25 -!- Dynast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:45:27 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:03:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 11:06:15 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2852-g3b3e50b (34) 11:12:42 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:46 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:24 -!- gammafun1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:29 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:23:40 -!- gammafun1 has left ##crawl-dev 11:24:11 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:10 -!- cs_0x6373 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:58 !bug 9276 11:46:59 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9276 11:47:07 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:47:25 different version of the patch 11:56:56 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:09:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:16 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:15:16 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:16:00 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:42 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:22:33 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 12:22:52 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:56 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:26:54 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:14 -!- ParallaxScroll is now known as ParallaxScroll1 12:37:16 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:37:45 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:38:53 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:38:57 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:19 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46:25 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:03 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:08 -!- greensnark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:51:29 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:51:33 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:51:34 -!- Philonous has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:51:39 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:51 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:54 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:48 -!- fortyCakes has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:12:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:14:54 -!- Schizzik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:16:06 -!- Zekka has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:17:35 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:55 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:30:14 -!- ParallaxScroll1 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:42:32 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:44:30 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Client Quit] 13:48:25 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:08 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:54 -!- caricature has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:55:36 !tell PleasingFungus Irradiate is 13:55:36 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:55:50 !tell PleasingFungus ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 13:55:50 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:55:56 !tell PleasingFungus a blast 13:55:56 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 13:59:41 <|amethyst> would Call Catoblepas be a broken spell? 14:00:05 yes 14:00:29 monsters are too stupid to step out of petrify clouds 14:04:44 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:10:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:13:46 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:14:22 -!- dienosore has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16:55 Please nerf chain lightning on ancient liches 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9279 by Berder 14:18:04 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 14:20:12 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:03 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:17 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25:19 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:25:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:37 hmm 14:25:38 PleasingFungus: You have 7 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:25:40 !seen reaverb 14:25:40 I last saw reaverb at Sat Nov 29 03:57:12 2014 UTC (16h 28m 28s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving.'. 14:25:45 peh 14:25:54 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 14:26:09 it would be nice if we could use the existing mechanisms for tweaking piety gain, rather than doing these programmatic ad-hoc things for every different conduct 14:26:18 of course, that would require *understanding* the existing mechanisms 14:26:21 which may be impossibl 14:26:44 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:27:07 !lg gammafunk ikiller=Robin -tv:<0.5 14:27:08 1. gammafunk, XL3 MfSk, T:1104 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 14:27:16 ! ! ! 14:27:17 !killratio robin * 14:27:19 robin wins 12.00% of battles. 14:27:31 I haven't seen Robin in my latest game :< 14:27:39 I have not yet seen robin, but i haven't been playing very much. 14:27:45 !irradiate PleasingFungus 14:28:04 haha frenzied goblin 14:28:39 !lg * killer=~lich vlong>=0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4 s=kaux 14:28:40 4 games for * (killer=~lich vlong>=0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4): 3x chain lightning, bolt of lightning 14:28:43 hmmm 14:28:45 doy: 14:28:47 that may be a valid request 14:29:01 !lg * cikiller~~lich vlong>=0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4 s=ckiller,ckaux 14:29:02 5 games for * (cikiller~~lich vlong>=0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4): 3x an ancient lich (2x chain lightning, bolt of lightning), an eldritch tentacle, a lich (chain lightning) 14:29:32 !send Grunt !glasses 14:29:33 Sending !glasses to Grunt. 14:29:37 (also go watch the tv) 14:29:38 what kind of character were you irradiating on? 14:29:41 !lm . 14:29:42 10048. [2014-11-29 19:57:53] SGrunt the Placeless Cat (L10 FeWz of Sif Muna) killed Erolcha on turn 22130. (D:10) 14:29:54 general feedback is that it's more of a cj spell than a tm spell 14:29:55 this is a really weird character so far 14:29:59 not sure how I feel about that 14:30:02 also good title.' 14:30:07 yes. 14:30:13 I found an early book of Transfigurations 14:30:13 so 14:30:21 but I still want to try out Singularity :) 14:30:28 don't really want to nerf nikola though 14:30:31 hmmm 14:30:55 * Grunt heads out to the chain gang. 14:31:33 9274 is mine and also a fantastic bug. 14:32:04 hm. is it mine? I don't remember it doing this.. 14:32:05 eh 14:32:12 needs to be fixed anyway 14:32:56 !tell rchandra Why on earth were you reading a book with 'r' anyway??? 14:32:57 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let rchandra know. 14:34:36 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:50 maybe chain lightning should just be removed from the spell list for now until it can be rebalanced? 14:35:17 esc: chain_lightning 14:35:19 do it 14:37:17 -!- Nunya has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:48 22:08:29 <|amethyst> FR: different spell, also called Singularity, that turns you into an infinitely intelligent AI and ends the reign of MH_NATURAL creatures upon the surface 14:37:53 finally, a level 9 tmut spell... 14:38:33 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:52 it turns you into a crimson imp 14:39:01 basically necromutation but slightly less bad 14:40:30 instead of no potions it's no equipment 14:40:33 sounds worse than mummyform 14:40:50 who said anything about no equipment 14:46:41 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:32 can I just remove the ability to read books with 'r' 14:47:34 it's goofy 14:48:31 I sometimes use it 14:49:03 mostly since it shows spells that are for some reason hidden in 'm' and I don't think M allows access to spell description anyway 14:49:09 I'm probably mistaken in that regard 14:49:17 you can just do i whtaever 14:49:18 hidden in 'M' rather 14:50:02 PleasingFungus: better make tome of dest evoked then 14:50:08 I have a branch for that. 14:50:12 well in that case go ahead and remove e, q, r, T, W, R, P and what have you as well 14:50:13 actually. 14:50:14 what did killing all the SDL related compilation errors take, again 14:50:16 those all work from the inventory! 14:50:17 potatolizard: in'shallah 14:50:30 god wills it; let it be done 14:50:56 okay M! is actually a thing 14:51:04 is it documented in-game 14:51:16 if you mean is ! mentioned when you press M yes 14:51:29 it doesn't allow you to wonder why mummies can't cast regen though 14:51:52 devs hate mummies 14:52:00 also, the food cost, etc 14:52:12 okay what the fuck it's all related to audio 14:55:14 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:55:27 -!- caricature_ is now known as caricature 14:55:46 and it's probably not just that ddraw.h, dsound.h and dinput.h aren't in source/contrib/sdl2/src/audio/directsound 15:01:03 regen reanimates wounded flesh, undead already have a whole buncha dead flesh 15:04:27 PleasingFungus: got her the next game, and I recieved a nice shiny helmet and a +4 spear of piercing 15:04:30 so thx 15:06:17 heh 15:06:19 excellent. 15:06:35 -!- axel__ has quit [Client Quit] 15:07:37 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:09:27 -!- axel_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:12:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:27 right, how the hell does compilation work now 15:12:54 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2853-ge2ecd22: Simplify (r)eading books (9274) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e2ecd221d754 15:13:06 Bloax: you have to update to gcc 4.8 15:13:12 there's a download... somewhere 15:13:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13:17 let me see if i can find it 15:13:37 gcc version 4.4.0 15:13:39 -!- axel_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:13:45 gee fuck that's just slightly outdated 15:13:54 yeah, msysgit is a bit behind the times 15:14:37 http://win-builds.org/1.4.0/yypkg-1.4.0.exe i think this is it 15:15:08 it'll ask where msysgit is and whether you want 32-bit or 64-bit (you can just do both) 15:15:37 -!- ParallaxScroll1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:16:28 then when you go to build crawl you want to add NO_PKGCONFIG=y to the line 15:16:45 i... think that's everything? 15:16:46 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:16:54 what happens otherwise 15:18:01 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2854-gcba7b01: Irradiate quote (9265) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cba7b017200d 15:18:31 I can't wait until everything has a quote. 15:18:41 it complains about something, i can't remember what 15:18:48 oh, zlib.h 15:19:13 (which you have, but it for some reason can't find unless you do NO_PKGCONFIG=y) 15:19:48 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:10 oh 15:20:12 ontoclasm! 15:20:20 fucking hell windows 15:20:23 do you have a template for the "man" icon used for a bunch of spells? 15:20:36 I'm thinking about making a cigotuvi's badtile 15:20:44 thanks for being very informative when it comes to what the actual problem is 15:20:48 yeah, let me find it 15:21:13 "The action can't be completed because the folder or a file in it is open in another program" yeah very informative 15:21:13 Bloax: the problem is they moved crawl to c++11 15:21:16 brb 15:21:28 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:33 and gcc 4.7 is the first version of gcc that supports it 15:21:50 well i gotta reboot now so see you in a minute 15:21:54 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 15:23:41 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:13 PleasingFungus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/charms.png 15:24:23 ah, neat, thanks! 15:24:29 any particular logic to using one or the other? 15:24:36 nope 15:24:55 (it might be nice to put this in rltiles/UNUSED somewhere; there were a bunch of template graphics from the old style of spells sitting around there, until I cleaned them out.) 15:25:00 whichever give you the most space to draw in 15:25:17 yeah, that might be good 15:25:32 !tell Grunt http://i.imgur.com/uqw5hIM.png secret doors??? 15:25:32