00:00:04 Would that concept be interesting enough to consider further thought? If I changed the increased AC at lower health around. 00:00:09 but a graphical motif that is highly visible 00:00:16 PleasingFungus: oh perfect start time 00:00:19 PleasingFungus: maybe a bit early 00:00:19 it's a neat idea yeah 00:00:30 but that particular motif is Problematic 00:00:38 yup 00:00:39 !lg * zig current trunk mu|gh|gr s=ckiller 00:00:40 or the double-upped pan set-ups, or the crypt buffs, or the swamp / earth / negative energy / conjurer sets, or draconian scaling, or... 00:00:40 35 games for * (zig current trunk ((mu || gh || gr))): 4x something, 3x a player ghost, 3x a greater mummy, 2x a starcursed mass, 2x a daeva, 2x an orb of fire, 2x a hellion, 2x a Hell Sentinel, a bennu, a cacodemon, a fire dragon, bennu, a spriggan air mage, a phantasmal warrior, an Executioner, a grand avatar, an iron dragon, a thorn hunter, an apis, an acid blob, bounce, a reaper, a pearl drago... 00:00:46 especially in that location 00:00:48 something. 00:00:50 if only crawl was a simpler game... 00:00:52 so much visual noise! 00:00:56 Grunt: pew pew 00:00:57 i know 00:00:58 !lg . ktyp=something 1 00:00:59 1/2. SGrunt the Skirmisher (L1 KoBe of Trog), distortion unwield on D:1 on 2012-05-10 21:16:03, with 35 points after 230 turns and 0:00:46. 00:01:00 how's ranged treatin' ya? 00:01:04 great bow inscription btw 00:01:14 PleasingFungus: this is the second holy longbow MiGl I've gotten to pan 00:01:17 heh 00:01:17 PleasingFungus: the first died to a bug 00:01:20 ! 00:01:21 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:01:21 seems like if you're torment immune zigs are basically a cakewalk once you have spells 00:01:23 which 00:01:24 still 00:01:24 !lg * zig cv=0.16-a ckiller=something s=ckaux 00:01:25 8 games for * (zig cv=0.16-a ckiller=something): 8x indirect mummy death curse 00:01:25 hasn't been fixedf 00:01:28 !!!!! 00:01:30 ahhhhhh. 00:01:32 what bug 00:01:46 ...that is a bad ckiller. 00:01:52 EMBRACE SUBMISSION 00:01:53 !lg . migl pan 2 -tv:x0.2 00:01:53 2. SGrunt, XL27 MiGl, T:116450 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 00:02:01 <|amethyst> !lg * zig cv=0.16-a ckiller=something x=killer 00:02:02 8. [killer=] Ralp the Petrodigitator (L27 GrEE of Vehumet), killed by an indirect mummy death curse on Zig:25 on 2014-11-14 09:16:08, with 1433710 points after 176175 turns and 1d+12:34:37. 00:02:06 <|amethyst> !lg * zig cv=0.16-a ckiller=something s=killer 00:02:07 8 games for * (zig cv=0.16-a ckiller=something): 8x 00:02:13 PleasingFungus: yes, you are wasting a MiGl cast Haste and PProj 00:02:29 chequers: crypt and tar readily have silence, lots of potential mana drain in spider or slime 00:02:30 Quite Powerful 00:02:36 armour looks dece too 00:02:47 the +14 chain mail of the Game of Kings {Str+3} 00:02:51 heh 00:02:51 (typing that from memory) 00:02:53 and a Sap in the midst of Pan can be a horrible time 00:02:55 man poor cerebov 00:02:59 -!- ebering_ is now known as ebering 00:02:59 yeah rip 00:03:00 brutally stunlocked and riddled with arrows 00:03:07 here's the bug 00:03:11 (slow motion) 00:03:18 theTower: well, "cakewalk" is always relative when you're talking about zigs 00:03:28 you can guess what the cause of death is already 00:03:29 but 00:03:34 I'll be buffing it all anyway 00:03:39 the cause is pan lava worms! 00:03:53 I just meant torment-immunity seems to be essentially requisite for megazigs 00:04:14 a bit inevitable considering the nature of tormentors 00:04:21 erm. tormenters. 00:04:38 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2761-gf27bdc9 (34) 00:04:42 here 00:04:50 ...hahahahaha 00:04:56 do you really think anyone in their right mind would make that sequence of moves 00:04:59 no 00:05:00 I lost control of my character 00:05:03 thanks autofight. 00:05:14 you truly make it all worth it 00:05:51 PleasingFungus: to summarise: tab with a ranged weapon occasionally makes you start uncontrollably moving towards your target 00:05:54 oh 00:05:57 I've heard of that one 00:06:08 I've noticed it a few times in my current MiGl even. 00:06:14 scares the dickens out of me 00:06:33 oh I nearly got clobbered by Eresh on the first pass btw 00:06:40 hooray 00:06:55 <|amethyst> really need clua functions to fire at a particular square 00:06:59 mainly thanks to a hell effect in the middle of the fight which summoned a horde while Eresh had silence up 00:07:02 blocked my escape 00:07:08 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:07:25 <|amethyst> so that it doesn't have to be a sequence of keypresses that could get frame-shifted somehow 00:07:45 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:08:46 hm. can we remove the current high-level book mechanic? 00:08:51 that would make this code a lot cleaner.... 00:08:59 which code 00:09:12 mister didn't actually identify project 00:09:18 describe-spells.cc:44 00:10:19 <|amethyst> I wouldn't mind making them identify 00:10:38 well it's the can't memorize them bit that's specifically giving me trouble 00:10:50 since that means I have to pass more information down through several levels of function calls 00:10:50 <|amethyst> I kind of like that bit 00:10:53 <|amethyst> hm 00:10:57 why? 00:11:16 also, do you want to see something funny 00:11:24 <|amethyst> probably no good reason, I admit 00:11:31 !source spl-book.cc:155 00:11:31 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc;hb=HEAD#l155 00:11:32 -!- margery has quit [Client Quit] 00:11:38 this is some fuckin' tech 00:11:45 155-159 00:12:03 astonishing 00:12:12 wow. 00:12:21 I know!!! 00:12:30 -!- hhh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:12:36 $ git blame 00:12:53 oh 00:12:56 of course 00:13:02 guess where it originated 00:13:11 <|amethyst> heh 00:13:35 where? 00:13:47 <|amethyst> %git 673bdae7 00:13:48 07peterb1202 * 673bdae75485: Initial revision 10(9 years ago, 183 files, 153322+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=673bdae75485 00:13:51 hahahaha 00:13:53 !send |amethyst a cookie 00:13:53 wow 00:13:53 Sending a cookie to |amethyst. 00:14:40 so um 00:14:45 <|amethyst> presumably changing that to %c ? 00:14:49 couldn't you just do - yeah 00:14:49 do we have any plans for the ten year anniversary 00:14:50 that 00:15:03 plans 00:15:05 plans 00:15:08 plants. 00:15:12 that doesn't sound very crawl-like. 00:16:03 <|amethyst> Really stone soup's anniversary would be in 2006 00:16:06 <|amethyst> err, 2016 00:16:25 <|amethyst> it was still "crawl-ref" in 2005 00:16:44 <|amethyst> would have to ask the snark about exact timing 00:17:03 heh I got that tweet notification 3 times 00:17:14 johnstein: I've been deleting & recreating it repeatedly 00:17:19 for formatting reasons 00:17:23 sorry, didn't realize it pinged for each one! 00:17:51 it's ok. how many people have that on mobile notifications ? 00:17:51 PleasingFungus: wow that code 00:17:53 traces back 00:17:53 to 00:17:55 2.70 00:17:56 probably not many 00:17:56 at least 00:17:57 hahahaha 00:18:08 this whole function is really bad 00:18:14 but I think that thing takes the cake 00:18:26 PleasingFungus: imo the author should be 00:18:28 !glasses 00:18:28 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 00:18:28 strng up 00:18:36 ... 00:18:39 !banish Grunt 00:18:39 PleasingFungus casts a spell. Grunt is devoured by a tear in reality! 00:19:19 I like how balrugs are a third as common as hellions in gehenna natural populations 00:19:24 ?:peterb 00:19:31 ?/peterb 00:19:32 No matches. 00:19:34 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 00:19:49 <|amethyst> %git --author=berger 00:19:50 Could not find commit --author=berger (git returned 129) 00:19:53 <|amethyst> %git --author=peter 00:19:53 07blackcustard02 {MarvinPA} * 93af19e34b2f: Make note of the items paid/shown to enter troves. 10(1 year, 6 months ago, 1 file, 36+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=93af19e34b2f 00:19:56 <|amethyst> hm 00:20:00 <|amethyst> %git --author=peterb 00:20:00 07peterb1202 * 5fad1a49dc36: Xcode changes. 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 889+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fad1a49dc36 00:20:00 gehenna demons: rust devil, soul eater 00:20:04 ! 00:20:12 %git 5fad1a49 00:20:12 07peterb1202 * 0.6.0-a0-254-g5fad1a4: Xcode changes. 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 889+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fad1a49dc36 00:20:15 0.6 00:20:17 early 00:20:18 :( 00:20:19 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:20:48 <|amethyst> I really need to make git take multiple options 00:20:52 <|amethyst> err, %git 00:20:53 |amethyst: what's the new canonical way to do int i = 0; i < vector.size(); ++i? 00:21:03 I feel like you added some classier c++ thing 00:21:03 skeletal warriors are not present in gehenna for some reason 00:21:04 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: do you need the number i or just the vector element? 00:21:10 I do need the number. 00:21:26 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I would go with what you have, except use size_t instead of int probably 00:21:32 ok 00:21:54 the other thing is just auto foo : vec, right? 00:22:25 <|amethyst> usually auto &foo or const auto &foo unless it's a really simple type like an enum 00:22:29 <|amethyst> to avoid copying 00:22:49 ah ok 00:23:07 <|amethyst> if a pointer is bigger than foo and you don't need to modify vec, then the by-value version is fine 00:23:57 !tell gammafunk LogicNinja is beating up Hell Sentinels empty-handed 00:23:57 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 00:24:14 heh 00:24:24 <|amethyst> because vectors are thin wrappers around arrays, you *could* calculate the number from the auto &foo version 00:24:59 &whereis logicninja 00:25:00 %whereis LogicNinja 00:25:00 LogicNinja the Archmage (L27 DEFE), a worshipper of Vehumet, saved in Pan on 2014-11-27 after 178586 turns. 00:25:06 <|amethyst> const ptrdiff_t i = &foo - vec.data(); or something 00:25:13 !lg Grunt sa 00:25:13 No games for Grunt (sa). 00:25:28 <_< 00:25:51 the logs are there! 00:26:28 -!- roctavian has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:26:47 <|amethyst> (and in C but not C++, you can get division-by-zero errors by doing pointer subtraction) 00:26:59 tormentors are twice as common in cocytus as blizzard demons 00:27:02 ????? 00:27:23 . . . 00:27:32 I bet that list was written when they were blue deaths 00:27:48 <|amethyst> FR: Green Hell 00:27:57 <|amethyst> Like any hell but kind of green 00:28:00 poison and acid hell? 00:28:01 isn't that slime 00:28:07 <|amethyst> tree hell 00:28:11 forest 00:28:12 green hell is where fedhas sends you when you die. 00:28:17 <|amethyst> Forest in Hell, yes 00:28:18 !send |amethyst a verdant rune of Zot 00:28:18 Sending a verdant rune of Zot to |amethyst. 00:28:18 actually no that's just the dirt 00:28:45 I wonder how terrible it'd be to give death oozes some kind of poisonous cloud 00:28:53 * ontoclasm thanks PleasingFungus for his contribution to the ecosystem. 00:29:04 PleasingFungus *is* the ecosystem. 00:29:57 I guess I can see hungry ghosts in cocytus. 00:30:02 I guess. 00:30:26 <|amethyst> russalka 00:30:36 I've always seen that spelled with just one s 00:30:37 v0v 00:30:38 <|amethyst> I guess even those are more Tar-sounding, huh 00:30:40 theTower: beware the vague acid/poison correlation cost........!!!!!!!!!!! 00:30:44 <|amethyst> oh, one s, right 00:31:18 oh right 00:31:28 I was going to figure out how to fit drowned souls into cocytus somehow 00:31:38 still not sure how 00:31:40 no please no please dont do it please no 00:31:48 hahaha 00:31:50 ... 00:31:54 drowned soul (11W) | Spd: 12 | HD: 13 | HP: 16-24 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 012(drown) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(60), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 456 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:31:54 %??drowned soul 00:32:08 wellsprings are fine, shard shrikes are fine, but some drowned souls are too much? 00:32:10 actually you know what 00:32:21 no wellsprings arent fine either but i was too lazy to complain 00:32:36 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:32:39 How about move merfolk avatars to coc only 00:32:40 :) 00:32:46 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:33:00 buff spider to approach shoals? sounds like a good idea 00:33:29 "Buff spider" 00:33:30 ? 00:34:48 not sure if cocytus is at dis level yet, but whatever 00:34:58 !tell doy likely to fight the Serpent of Hell in the next day or two; I'll let you know which and how it goes 00:34:59 Grunt: OK, I'll let doy know. 00:35:11 I don't know what you mean by "at dis level" 00:35:19 is this "easy" or "hard" 00:35:20 !lg * br='spider|swamp|shoals|snake' cv>=0.14 s=br o=N 00:35:21 10833 games for * (br=spider|swamp|shoals|snake cv>=0.14): 3042x Snake, 2707x Swamp, 2571x Shoals, 2513x Spider 00:35:31 hard, probably 00:35:40 Because dis is probably tied with geh for danger imo 00:35:43 sometimes worse 00:35:49 !lg * br='geh|dis|coc|tar' cv>=0.14 s=br o=N 00:35:49 450 games for * (br=geh|dis|coc|tar cv>=0.14): 145x Dis, 144x Geh, 112x Coc, 49x Tar 00:36:01 Some of the dis endings are most unpleasant 00:36:07 thank you 00:36:15 *which* Dis endings 00:36:18 I'm surprised snake is so much in the front. 00:36:24 of course, tar desperately needs something too but it's not particularly materialized 00:36:26 The one with the massive amount of hell sents 00:36:32 Perhaps it's biased by the order people do branches in. 00:36:40 dis_st has less Hell Sentinel spam these daysa 00:36:44 hmm 00:36:54 Castle one is sort of fine 00:36:57 <|amethyst> I wish I had written a script when I put together than lair branch lethality table 00:37:23 I sort of like one of htem with all the iron golems before dispater's room 00:37:36 since I can use SoS and then kill dispater with +10 slaying 00:37:40 describing things when there are names is still 00:37:47 !source dat/des/branches/dis.des 00:37:47 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/dis.des;hb=HEAD 00:37:58 s|still|silly| 00:38:03 <|amethyst> http://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/1htexo/comment/caxrbxs 00:38:12 ...dis_grunt? 00:38:28 oh its dis_grunt yes 00:38:31 i rather like that one 00:39:41 this is a hard tangent from "make a choice of four branches of the same role differ on fronts other than difficulty" 00:43:03 hmm so tar is on the to-be-buffed list yes 00:44:10 death shrikes 00:44:23 I have so many shrike-related regrets 00:44:32 shregrets 00:47:32 overreactions for a tar buff will have to wait a while anyway, because the problem with tar is just as much "most of the ends are designed around scattered buildings that decentralize threats and leave most of it both open and ignorable" as much as it is "an negative-energy hell doesn't make much sense when all of the hells and demons have some aspect of that" 00:47:47 "also crypt and tomb" 00:48:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:49:08 theTower: silent hell 00:49:11 do it 00:49:41 I think the current use of silence in tar is pretty fine enough 00:49:55 -!- s1cksadworld has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:50:17 huh 00:50:21 this is interesting 00:50:37 can we just not have mazes in tar 00:50:51 another aspect, sure 00:50:55 it's very annoying when you have to teleport out and then autotravel the entire maze again 00:50:58 and get like 20 hell effects 00:51:14 the best part of a maze is when it isn't, and that's not very emphasized as currently stands 00:51:38 (...don't you get 20 hell effects from Dis too?...) 00:51:53 well i can teleport around Dis:7 sort of 00:52:02 in tar it's sort of tough to teleport into the maze 00:52:27 and it's more "go through maze, have to tele for some reason, oh great time to walk through this again" 00:52:39 look on the bright side: no maprot! 00:52:40 when in other hells I can just teleport again and land sort of nearby 00:52:54 if that was added I would just not play extended in 0.16 00:53:00 heh 00:53:14 there's only a maze in tar half the time anyway 00:53:37 Do you not count the river end as a maze 00:53:45 I do, that's half 00:54:08 (the randomized end's maze is so short in such an open level I wouldn't count it) 00:55:17 Grunt: can i push stuff to panlord-color 00:57:23 maybe I need to journey off for inspiration to finish my set so that tartarus only has 2/5 mazes 00:57:33 ontoclasm: yes! 00:59:07 Grunt: sweet 00:59:48 i still need to do the wings but that's too big a job for tonight 01:01:51 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:03:30 03ontoclasm02 07[panlord-colour] * 0.16-a0-2693-g441a2c6: Modify pandlord color schemes 10(8 hours ago, 1 file, 141+ 138-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=441a2c6c63a9 01:03:30 03ontoclasm02 07[panlord-colour] * 0.16-a0-2694-g8e9c1c3: Panlord body & head edits 10(13 minutes ago, 39 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e9c1c3f36df 01:04:05 we need more bodies 01:04:09 !send ontoclasm wings 01:04:09 Sending wings to ontoclasm. 01:04:18 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:04:22 * ontoclasm flies into the air. 01:05:25 the wings are so... icky :C 01:07:21 PleasingFungus: btw does Gozag wrath still turn things to gold 01:07:23 if so 01:07:27 yes 01:07:36 it should only apply to newly discovered items 01:08:01 (this would fix the scumming issue with it) 01:08:06 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:08:39 v0v 01:08:45 anyway 01:08:51 sleeeeep 01:08:56 :) 01:09:01 !send Cocytus PleasingFungus 01:09:01 Sending PleasingFungus to Cocytus. 01:09:40 it would be p funny if I rush-implemented a thanksgiving event 01:10:07 <|amethyst> only on the US servers 01:10:08 turkey reaver? 01:10:22 yes thanksgiving was a month ago what are you talking about 01:10:29 pfft 01:10:29 <|amethyst> replace bread rations with tofurky 01:15:37 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:19:24 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:19:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:21:06 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22:17 -!- Guest62495 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:26:36 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:27:41 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:03 -!- ruwin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:34:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:34:17 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:34:54 thinking over making sap magic not have a flat fail chance but heavily lower the initial duration (from 200 aut to 50 aut), since it'll extend in duration if you cast 01:42:09 -!- pentax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:44:40 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:49:38 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:51:31 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:54:06 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04:04 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141124100136]] 02:05:10 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:06:03 okay noecrphage is listed twice in tartarus I give up for the night 02:06:05 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:15:40 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:16:32 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:19:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:22:38 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2761-gf27bdc9 (34) 02:41:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:44:57 -!- sooheon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45:14 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:45:37 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:41 -!- zauren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:54:16 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:09 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:58:24 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 03:01:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:05:30 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:06:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:16:15 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:17:23 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:22:40 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:54 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:02 -!- dienosaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:27:47 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:30:14 "crawl wishes you a happy vegetarian thanksgiving!!" 03:30:29 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:38:26 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:43:28 -!- zencephalon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:46:35 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:10 Stoats (L26 GrFi) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1297 failed. (Zot:1) 03:47:37 -!- zencephalon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:48:57 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:48:57 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06:58 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:08:31 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:13:58 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:16:01 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:31 -!- Philonous has quit [Quit: (<<<)] 04:26:23 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:37:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:48:37 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:50:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:55:58 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:58:02 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:59:50 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01:25 after the recent food eating time changes, i think hungry ghosts need a buff 05:01:35 -!- elsiv has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:11:57 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 05:17:25 -!- Sharkslayer has quit [Client Quit] 05:24:49 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:25:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:33:39 !messages 05:33:39 No messages for TZer0. 05:33:59 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 05:37:56 chequers: did you want access? 05:38:04 ??docker 05:38:04 docker[1/1]: https://bitbucket.org/TZer0/crawl-docker - far from done 05:49:23 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:50:39 TZer0: nah it's ok, i am still working on my puppet system 05:54:47 chequers: what will it do? 05:55:13 same asyour docker system, just a different approach 05:55:39 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:55:48 are you doing it the old way with chroot as well? 05:56:02 yeah 05:56:08 okay 05:56:21 I dropped that in my docker 05:57:06 ??puppet 05:57:06 puppet[1/1]: "pre-pre-preeeeee-alpha" puppet repo: https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/dcss-webserver-puppet 05:59:13 makes sense to drop it in containers 05:59:18 it's just a primitive container after all 05:59:22 yeah 05:59:35 in many ways, Docker is a tighter container 05:59:59 besides, the crawl-user can fuck up pretty much anything should there be a critical exploit 06:00:07 I mean, all the morgue-files etc. are available. 06:00:10 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:14 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:00:31 oooh 06:00:32 one thing 06:00:36 don't rebuild hourly 06:00:39 bad plan. 06:00:53 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:01:25 also, I might peek a bit on your nginx-config. 06:02:30 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:04:02 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:11:49 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:16:25 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:16:50 chequers: all in all, I think it is good to have alternatives 06:17:03 especially since Docker requires relatively new kernels. 06:23:21 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:35:48 yup 06:36:01 well, my ultimate goal is to have docker managed by puppet, but that's fa away for me 06:36:17 maybe.. we should combine 06:36:26 ask me in three months :P 06:36:32 hahahah 06:36:34 that busy? 06:36:36 :/ 06:37:34 yeah 06:37:52 why dont build hourly btw? 06:37:52 why? Work? Studies? 06:37:57 fwiw, i build 15mins now 06:38:08 well, if your server has 50+ people playing 06:38:11 say during a tournament 06:38:15 just life in general, plus I'd like to spend most crawl-dev time working on the webtiles code itself 06:39:04 will we see any nice improvements soon? :D 06:39:04 also, I'll try to keep your puppet-suggestion in mind 06:39:12 the improvements are all in the webtiles-changes tree 06:39:28 it's what I use on my server, and will be merged to master in a few months i hear 06:39:35 oh, nice 06:39:45 will it get mouse control? 06:39:58 not that it matters to me since I only use the keyboard. 06:41:13 i'm not sure, i don't think there is anyone working on that. I'm mostly fixing up tooling and infrastructure support around the edges 06:41:21 trying to make the system a little easier to run 06:41:50 hmm 06:41:54 interesting 06:41:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:24 chequers: we should seriously look into combining docker and puppet 06:48:38 it could benefit server-maintainers a lot 06:48:57 maybe we should go completely insane 06:49:02 and add support for other roguelikes 06:49:14 maybe not in webtiles - but in ssh 06:49:17 -!- bleak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:26 since we only have to do it once 06:49:51 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50:04 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:50:36 i agree, it would be nice to have a solution that manages Everything which is relatively pluggable 06:51:24 I think a lot of the work will have to be done in the applications themselves. for instance, dcss stores milestones in an append-only logfile, save dir cant be configured on the commandline, etc etc 06:52:06 hmm 06:52:28 but yeah, I can imagine this becoming popular if we can make everything run 06:52:38 the other communities grabbing this, adding a module 06:52:40 I made a diagram of the different components for dcss alone and it's insane (see system.png in the dcss-puppet repo) 06:52:49 and bam, we can make a generic terminal-game server 06:53:13 it would be nice, especially if written in a more accessible language than dgamelaunch was 06:53:14 I hope you intend to retroactively remove that png later :P 06:53:23 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:53:34 I'd like to simply change how dcss exports information so that there are fewer moving parts 06:54:19 some of the components in the image are not DCSS's fault (ttyrec compression/archiving), but most are glue to turn a single-user/system game into a multi-user one 06:54:23 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:54:35 yeah 06:54:45 well, multi-single-user to be honest. 06:54:46 :P 06:55:25 anyway, here's my vision for how puppet + docker would work together. the "dom0" (for lack of knowing the real docker terminology) is managed by puppet, and there are containers for each component of each game, and each game is a separate container instance 06:55:37 basically, we should make sure that some sort of generic paramerization of launch options is available 06:55:41 and that it is easy to configure 06:55:50 that way, we probably won't have to change that much in DCSS itself. 06:56:22 so for dcss you have a hierarchy like this: dom0 (puppet) launches webtiles (container) which launches dcss (many containers) 06:56:43 hmm 06:57:04 it might not be neccessary to use puppet at all. I'm not sure how docker deals with confguration management when updating images 06:57:30 i've only used docker for fun, never in anger, so it's not super familar to me 06:58:31 i'll try to write up a little design spec tomorrow and send it over. time for me to sleep now 07:02:48 chequers: okay, we should try discussing this in detail 07:03:18 for instance, we need to figure out what level of reconfiguration requires an image-rebuild and a few other things 07:04:09 yes 07:05:04 -!- bleak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:05:19 but now, sleep :) 07:06:09 good night 07:06:22 Issue: difference in time-zones. 07:12:23 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Client Quit] 07:14:47 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:19:24 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 07:23:12 kroki (L2 MiWr) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 668: screen write out of bounds: (22,0) into (80,7) (D:1) 07:26:42 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:30:57 alright, i think i might just add the restriction that lich spellbooks always have to include at least one conj spell, and then merge it 07:31:07 and we can shake out any other details after some playtesting 07:32:00 Phillip (L26 NaGl) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1297 failed. (Zot:4) 07:33:21 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:39:07 also, it looks like i may have buffed the dis serpent a bit too much 07:39:15 but i'll give it another couple days to be sure 07:39:26 Is it a bug that Vinestalkers can acquire heal wounds wands? 07:39:35 yeah, probably 07:39:45 well 07:39:48 no 07:39:54 because you can use it to heal allies 07:40:06 I see 07:40:24 similar reasoning as to why formicids can acquire teleport wands 07:40:55 doy: what if you're a follower of Ru and you've sacrificed love? :D 07:41:35 you can use it to heal enemies! 07:41:38 Good to know, i didn't realize I should avoid wand acq with those races 07:41:41 thanks 07:42:05 "should avoid" is probably a bit strong 07:42:16 also, while talking about wand acquirement, I'd like to add my 2 cents--invisibility should be valued more highly by acquirement algorithm 07:42:39 it's the 3rd best wand, but fireball seems to be very highly valued by acquirement and it's not very useful 07:42:42 doy: I guess you can use it to heal enemies standing next to you if they're poisoned and have inner flame 07:42:44 :D 07:43:34 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:43:44 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:40 uh 07:49:49 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:15 who is breaking things this time 07:51:16 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:54:04 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 07:54:52 on CPO the game is crashing as soon as I select race and background (but before weapon selection) 07:55:54 I'll see if it happens on another server 07:56:44 my guess is |amethyst 07:57:17 seems to be OK on cbro 07:57:33 it's doing it on two accounts on CPO though 07:57:47 Kramin: are you getting any logs? 07:58:35 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 07:58:53 it says /var/gamedata/dcss/morgue/Kramin/crash--20141127-135840.txt 07:59:10 I'm guessing this is some directory only the admin has access to 07:59:28 chequers isn't around right now I don't think 08:00:20 it's likely a problem with CPO 08:01:24 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:33 ok, I managed to start a MiNe 08:01:44 no weapon selection screen 08:02:25 oh, and now I can do GhAM 08:02:28 wierd 08:04:00 so I'm not sure how to reproduce the problem 08:04:48 well, the crash logs should hopefully still be around 08:07:12 yeah 08:09:56 hmmm, looks like my issue was actually just something broken with our build system, or something 08:10:00 * doy shrug 08:25:18 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:26:20 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:26:58 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:14 -!- t4nk069 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:37:22 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: bis später] 08:51:22 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:55:18 -!- witty has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:55:27 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 08:57:03 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:58:47 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:00:05 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:00:08 http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-27A6R0r1Ln-ancient-lich.txt http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-27Q4nRIFek-lich.txt updated spell list examples 09:00:28 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 09:00:34 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:02:33 03Grunt02 {doy} 07* 0.16-a0-2609-gbaaec7f: Expand liches' magical repertoire. 10(5 weeks ago, 5 files, 232+ 51-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=baaec7f7fdba 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2610-ga4ba1b1: pick some random spells from the list instead of all of them 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 34+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4ba1b1e880c 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2611-g03cde6f: simplify 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=03cde6fa45ea 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2612-g989febd: simplify some more 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 32+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=989febd1fe82 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2613-g6bc5664: ensure liches always get a reasonable number of spells 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bc566460ce7 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2614-g5d359dc: add a bunch more spell options 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 23+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d359dcad5a9 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2615-g592e616: no reason to actually use spell type enums here anymore 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 141+ 161-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=592e616b0d76 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2616-g9687377: improve lich spell selection 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 63+ 168-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96873778319b 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2617-gbf521fb: simplify 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 21+ 41-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf521fb3c1e0 09:02:33 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2618-gbf8a60a: give regular liches a primary spell too 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf8a60a58e90 09:02:33 ... and 27 more commits 09:02:52 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 09:15:14 also, ++ to whoever added MONEAT_DOORS to serpent of hell 09:15:20 that seems to be surprising a bunch of people 09:18:17 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 09:18:52 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:40 -!- muravey_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:24:46 -!- Schizzik has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:26:41 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:30:23 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:35:17 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:37:32 also, http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-27a5L4CZEc-crash-doy-20141127-103647.txt 09:44:22 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:02 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:01 !tell pleasingfungus we should probably edit the isk's battlesphere spell quote; see http://www.schlockmercenary.com/blog/the-great-retcon-of-twenty-eleven 09:51:01 wheals: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:51:01 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 09:51:04 !messages 09:51:04 (1/2) |amethyst said (13h 45m 49s ago): IMO give spear/lbl stab bonuses to all (non-sbl) weapons rather than take them away 09:51:06 !messages 09:51:06 (1/1) |amethyst said (13h 45m 26s ago): and up felids to sbl level because cat assassin 09:52:34 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:52:52 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:53:00 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:58:52 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:59:41 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00:06 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:09:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:34 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:10:13 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10:25 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:10:36 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:11:34 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12:05 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12:33 doy: \o/ 10:12:51 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12:59 doy: too bad I've already cleared all the lich-heavy areas in my current game :( 10:14:30 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15:42 i am getting a lot of color-related asserts 10:16:07 http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-27GfVMgEXo-crash-doy-20141127-111526.txt 10:17:04 !source ghost.cc 10:17:04 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/ghost.cc;hb=HEAD 10:21:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:49 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24:01 !blame PleasingFungus 10:24:01 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 10:24:01 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:24:04 wha 10:24:26 actualy I don't know what's causing it yet but you can help us check 10:24:35 (it's probably doy's fault) 10:24:40 probably! 10:24:46 (what are we talking about?) 10:24:56 hackum (L27 FoFi) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1297 failed. (Zot:5) 10:24:58 crashing! 10:25:04 doy: your crash! 10:25:09 speak of the devil, someone should really fix that chilling breath crash. 10:25:09 oh no 10:25:16 I tried but failed 10:25:19 since I couldn't repro it 10:25:31 PleasingFungus: I think I know what the general issue is 10:25:37 and will look into it 10:25:39 it's grunt 10:25:41 it always is 10:25:50 ??wheals[$ 10:25:50 wheals[8/8]: wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 10:26:49 * PleasingFungus hisses, whealsishly. 10:26:56 Grunt: :) 10:27:44 ??:) 10:27:45 :)[1/1]: :) 10:27:54 ??(: 10:27:54 doy[4/4]: (: 10:28:15 :)?? 10:28:15 :) 10:28:20 (:?? 10:28:20 (: 10:28:25 ???? 10:28:26 !tell theTower congrats on the brutally slain logicninja :) 10:28:27 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let thetower know. 10:28:32 PleasingFungus: ! 10:28:37 !lg logicninja 10:28:37 11288. LogicNinja the Firebug (L7 GrFE), slain by a decayed bog body in Ossuary (ossuary_zaba_flooded) on 2014-11-27 09:47:08, with 499 points after 4178 turns and 0:07:32. 10:28:43 was his ring of singularities not enough 10:28:44 !lg logicninja xl=27 10:28:45 56. LogicNinja the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Vehumet), killed by a guardian mummy's death curse on Zig:25 on 2014-11-27 08:47:37, with 1879999 points after 186370 turns and 18:01:55. 10:28:49 ^ 10:28:49 -!- Mazed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:50 <3 message 10:28:57 heh, yes 10:29:01 no more indirection! 10:29:04 !lg logicninja xl=27 x=ckiller 10:29:05 singularity ghost! 10:29:05 56. [ckiller=something] LogicNinja the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Vehumet), killed by a guardian mummy's death curse on Zig:25 on 2014-11-27 08:47:37, with 1879999 points after 186370 turns and 18:01:55. 10:29:11 still something :( 10:29:16 rip 10:29:17 rip 10:29:31 need to get someone who knows sequell's coding to make the ckiller the thing with the death curse 10:29:57 !lg logicninja x=ktyp,killer,kaux 10:29:58 11288. [ktyp=mon;killer=a decayed bog body;kaux=] LogicNinja the Firebug (L7 GrFE), slain by a decayed bog body in Ossuary (ossuary_zaba_flooded) on 2014-11-27 09:47:08, with 499 points after 4178 turns and 0:07:32. 10:30:04 !lg logicninja x=ktyp,killer,kaux xl=27 10:30:04 -!- Alpi has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:30:05 56. [ktyp=something;killer=;kaux=a guardian mummy's death curse] LogicNinja the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Vehumet), killed by a guardian mummy's death curse on Zig:25 on 2014-11-27 08:47:37, with 1879999 points after 186370 turns and 18:01:55. 10:30:10 killer= 10:30:16 we need to set that 10:30:30 killer=DEAD MONSTER 10:30:36 i think that might not be too hard 10:30:41 killer=NONEXISTENT FOE 10:30:46 killer=NO GOD 10:30:59 NO GOD smiting 10:31:21 !source MiscastEffect::_ouch 10:31:22 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-miscast.cc;hb=HEAD#l446 10:32:06 !lg logicninja xl=27 x=KTYP 10:32:07 56. [ktyp=something] LogicNinja the Archmage (L27 DEFE of Vehumet), killed by a guardian mummy's death curse on Zig:25 on 2014-11-27 08:47:37, with 1879999 points after 186370 turns and 18:01:55. 10:32:36 you know how to pass stuff to ouch better than i do, i think 10:35:13 interesting, xom can't save your life from Xom acts 10:35:53 bug imo 10:36:29 would just need a change from an "else if" to an "if" 10:38:12 xom buffs??? 10:39:03 xom saving you from xom's own actions is a very xomly thing 10:39:23 what should the ktyp of death curses be? i guess beam? 10:40:43 i think changing it to beam would fix the killer (and thus ckiller), though i'm not sure 10:41:39 !send wheals beems 10:41:40 Sending beems to wheals. 10:43:18 PleasingFungus: Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 10:43:24 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:00 03doy02 07[explore] * 0.16-a0-2802-ge4f82b4: Merge branch 'master' into explore 10(2 hours ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4f82b4228f1 10:47:00 03doy02 07[explore] * 0.16-a0-2803-gec0c336: save explore mode state 10(60 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec0c33657e6e 10:47:00 03doy02 07[explore] * 0.16-a0-2804-gee78a5f: allow felids to die normally in explore mode 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee78a5f0420c 10:48:01 cc1plus.exe: error: unrecognized command line option "-std=c++11" 10:48:03 crap 10:48:10 ??building on windows 10:48:10 I don't have a page labeled building_on_windows in my learndb. 10:48:12 ??windows 10:48:12 I don't have a page labeled windows in my learndb. 10:48:31 anyone around who got C++11 to work on msysgit? 10:49:15 where were you when wheals was kill 10:49:48 !death Bloax 10:49:49 Death has come for Bloax... 10:50:05 oh_no 10:50:14 wheals: yes 10:50:14 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:50:56 the big picture is 10 get a fresh net install of msysgit, then follow the toolchain installation/config steps at win-builds 10:51:09 s/10/1)/ 10:51:46 mm 10:51:59 at this setup's speed, might be faster to get a new computer 10:52:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:52:28 ha 10:53:30 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:57:13 03doy02 07[explore] * 0.16-a0-2805-gcc9fb90: + instead of ^M for explore mode 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc9fb9076a60 10:57:21 -!- Ahrin has quit [] 11:00:20 huh 11:00:29 so i hadn't realized there were three or four different places that list spells for books 11:00:36 there are? 11:01:30 well, not for long, hopefully 11:01:34 but yes 11:01:50 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:05 compare description.cc's append_spells to spl-book.cc's spellbook_contents 11:02:10 PleasingFungus: should the qda description mention that qda increases magic resistance in that attribute listing part? 11:02:10 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2663-g8b2d462: implement explore mode 10(4 days ago, 9 files, 66+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b2d462e01ed 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2664-g87beff4: typo fix 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=87beff4fe049 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2665-gc088e79: add -explore command line option and explore_mode initfile option 10(4 days ago, 5 files, 51+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c088e799be5d 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2802-ge4f82b4: Merge branch 'master' into explore 10(2 hours ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4f82b4228f1 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2803-gec0c336: save explore mode state 10(75 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec0c33657e6e 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2804-gee78a5f: allow felids to die normally in explore mode 10(48 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee78a5f0420c 11:02:26 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2805-gcc9fb90: + instead of ^M for explore mode 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc9fb9076a60 11:02:29 attribute listing part 11:02:29 ? 11:02:29 you know 11:02:29 It makes you more charismatic 11:02:35 It helps you grow a fuller head of hair 11:02:36 etc 11:02:50 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:02:55 do any of the other dragon armours mention that? 11:02:58 it doesn't mention "It increases your resistance to hostile enchantments" 11:03:07 oh, i see what you mean 11:03:07 like, their respective resistances 11:03:10 not sure 11:03:24 I don't think they do 11:03:26 but I think it'd be nice if it did, let me seein wiz mode 11:03:27 maybe they should? 11:03:53 doy: nice merge commit :) 11:04:02 yeah it seems they don't, and they probably should 11:04:18 !merge PleasingFungus 11:04:25 their code is a real mess 11:04:48 there are at least three places where the resists for each dragon armour (& hide) are enumerated 11:05:00 plausibly more 11:05:09 god 11:05:25 PleasingFungus: also there was a list I found that you probably would like to see refactored, let me find it 11:05:30 oh boy! 11:05:53 %git :/phantom 11:05:53 07gammafunk02 * 0.16-a0-2732-gb2afc92: Put phantom mirrors with miscellaneous items on the knowledge screen 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 9+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2afc92e008c 11:06:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:14 PleasingFungus: misc_ST_list and its corresponding pair in itemname.cc 11:06:23 two matching lists, maybe it could be a map 11:07:27 well, itemprop.cc already is a map, essentially. 11:08:05 implemented in a silly way, but w/e. 11:08:05 Just ran into 3 caustic shrikes, slaughtered them w/ using special measures. I am disappoint. 11:08:05 if you think it's fine, I won't mess with it; it's just kind of a weirdlist 11:08:05 Lasty: what measures 11:08:13 haste, god abilities, potions, summons . . . 11:08:14 gammafunk: I think he meant w/o? 11:08:17 oh 11:08:20 idk 11:08:22 er yeah w/o 11:08:35 all I used was bladehands 11:08:40 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:47 well, what *would* be special measures then? 11:08:53 if god abilities and potions aren't 11:08:54 [09:08] Lasty haste, god abilities, potions, summons . . . 11:08:59 you misunderstood 11:09:04 oh he blade handed 11:09:12 yeah that's fine, blade hands is pretty silly after all 11:09:12 srry, that was a list of the sorts of things I dodn't use 11:09:19 *didn't 11:09:25 My MuGl just had a great mace and rcorr 11:09:29 so he had to get creative 11:09:42 oh and G, haha! 11:09:44 gammafunk: anyway that list is misc items as they appear in the \ menu, yes? 11:09:45 Got a cat on one hand for extra Ru verisimiliitude. 11:09:50 I should have called a shop on top of them 11:09:57 and by misc items & mean food and misc items and random other shit 11:10:09 s/&/I/ 11:10:26 PleasingFungus: it's the list of knowledge item classes under that one subheading,yeah 11:10:32 it's a weird list but I'm not 100% sure that it's redundant with anything 11:10:36 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 11:11:41 Lasty: At that depth we'd typically only think of monsters requiring aforementioned special measures as being uniques like maybe menna, mara 11:11:58 since you can take nearly anything the 3-rune game can throw at you 11:12:29 rip ultra caustic shrikes 11:12:37 !lg * ckiller~~shrike 11:12:39 32. Johnny the Devastator (L22 DgFE), mangled by a caustic shrike on Depths:2 (grunt_runaround) on 2014-11-26 03:27:22, with 443228 points after 110155 turns and 7:17:21. 11:12:47 rip johnny 11:12:49 PleasingFungus: I fought a caustic shrike pack on Depths:5 in my game in progress 11:12:55 it was in an open space 11:12:57 and it was not pleasant 11:13:10 noice. 11:13:16 gammafunk: well, what about, say, ancient liches? 11:13:53 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2806-g2c22021: Set killer properly for death curses (wheals). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c22021d8ac2 11:14:03 Like ancient liches, shrike packs are "out of depth" 11:14:07 Lasty: { 10, 14, 10, FLAT, MONS_ANCIENT_LICH }, 11:14:10 in pop_depths 11:14:12 so those are ood 11:14:20 I guess so are shrikes 11:14:23 but they are shallower 11:14:44 so technically we expect aliches to be harder 11:14:58 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:15:13 not only later, but only 1/5 the weight 11:15:44 but yeah just a ?silence makes aliches trivial, so I'm not sure I'd really call it special measures 11:16:01 I suppose so. Well, I'll have to be content with shrikes being sometimes dangerous 11:16:50 they've already gotten like 1/3 the kills of op c in only like 2-3 weeks iirc 11:16:55 !lg * ikiller=caustic_shrike 11:16:56 26. Johnny the Devastator (L22 DgFE), mangled by a caustic shrike on Depths:2 (grunt_runaround) on 2014-11-26 03:27:22, with 443228 points after 110155 turns and 7:17:21. 11:16:59 .crushed 11:17:00 78. lkid the Eclecticist (L19 DgFE), blasted by an octopode crusher (iron shot) on Depths:1 (kennysheep_opposing_triangles) on 2014-11-25 20:53:54, with 290250 points after 87951 turns and 10:59:33. 11:17:11 gammafunk: most of that was pre-nerf 11:17:15 poor DgFEs 11:17:21 when was last nerf? 11:17:25 !nerf gammafunk 11:17:26 * Sequell nerfs gammafunk!!! 11:17:41 %git :/nerf caustic 11:17:42 Could not find commit :/nerf caustic (git returned 128) 11:17:42 !dragonscall grunt 11:17:42 gammafunk calls out to the draconic realm, and the dragon horde roars back! The golden dragon tramples grunt!!! x3 11:17:47 !singularity gammafunk 11:17:47 Grunt mumbles some strange words. Space collapses on itself with a horrifying crunch! The singularity violently warps gammafunk! 11:17:52 %git :/caustic shr 11:17:52 07Lasty02 * 0.16-a0-2313-gdbc6749: Nerf caustic shrikes, readjust spawn and pack size 10(11 days ago, 3 files, 5+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbc674915039 11:17:52 !lg * trunk place=depths s=ikiller -graph 11:17:53 2421 games for * (trunk place=depths): https://shalott.org/graphs/53c1f414ea1396ac95d96068290050514f278b94.html 11:17:56 -!- Gruud has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:18:15 !lg * trunk recent place=depths s=ikiller -graph 11:18:15 1411 games for * (trunk recent place=depths): https://shalott.org/graphs/68417d06fd4e13b5f75f01f5ece4c7af0e83a89e.html 11:18:51 !lg * ikiller=caustic_shrike vlong>=0.16-a0-2313-gdbc6749 11:18:52 8. Johnny the Devastator (L22 DgFE), mangled by a caustic shrike on Depths:2 (grunt_runaround) on 2014-11-26 03:27:22, with 443228 points after 110155 turns and 7:17:21. 11:19:02 8! 11:19:02 that's still a ton 11:19:05 true 11:19:11 %git 11:19:11 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2806-g2c22021: Set killer properly for death curses (wheals). 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c22021d8ac2 11:19:30 At least two of those are from unlucky polymorphs 11:19:30 also 11:19:31 PleasingFungus: crash reproduced 11:19:37 (the breath one) 11:19:37 grunt_runaround makes a lot of those dang things 11:19:40 from what I'm seeing 11:19:53 makes me wonder how our ood distribution looks like 11:19:54 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:59 yeah, grunt_runaround has no narrow points, and people don't always use the doors 11:20:23 yeah it's more dangerous in that vault, all stone, although plenty of doors 11:20:23 !source spellbook_contents 11:20:23 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc;hb=HEAD#l111 11:20:28 I got like 6 shrikes there 11:20:32 Grunt: ! 11:20:36 I think it places a lot due to its 098 nature 11:20:40 PleasingFungus: note my XXX there! 11:20:50 wheals: ya I know 11:20:59 I'm actually in the middle of rewriting them together 11:21:06 goooood 11:21:08 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2805-gcc9fb90 (34) 11:22:19 also you should fix the fact that you can't use the command keys when inspecting a book from i 11:23:23 PleasingFungus: I think I have an idea of what's happening too 11:23:28 * Grunt makes some adjustments 11:23:31 i assume this is prep for showing monster spells book-wise? 11:23:34 yep! 11:23:35 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:35 The build has errored. (explore - ee78a5f #834 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42325326 11:23:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:23:37 you're the first one to get it :) 11:23:41 though admittedly you had more clues 11:23:56 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:24:11 PleasingFungus: so you're admitting 11:24:13 you don't have a clue. 11:24:31 . . . . . . 11:24:35 !singularity Grunt 11:24:35 PleasingFungus mumbles some strange words. Space collapses on itself with a horrifying crunch! The singularity violently warps Grunt! 11:24:39 !hellfire PleasingFungus 11:24:39 * Sequell ends PleasingFungus in hellfire! You hear a strangely unpleasant explosion. 11:26:33 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:27:01 wow, you're really 11:27:06 throwing the book at him 11:28:24 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:29:26 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:29:26 The build has errored. (explore - cc9fb90 #835 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42326334 11:29:26 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:29:48 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2807-g9cca1f9: Fix Chilling Breath crashes. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9cca1f91b722 11:29:48 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2808-gbe8f03c: Buff collision damage. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be8f03c934a4 11:30:04 hm 11:30:12 did you have any thought about singularity zig mayhem? 11:31:36 can tornado move the singularty? 11:31:51 that's deep 11:31:54 also, afaik no 11:32:01 also you can have as many singularities as you want at a time right now 11:32:01 it isn't M_STATIONARY... 11:32:04 (((yet))) 11:32:04 o 11:32:09 I guess I assumed 11:32:39 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:00 clearly rename to plurality 11:33:09 i suggest limiting to one, with a message about the space-time continuum if you try to place another 11:33:36 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2809-gf64f25e: Disallow harming or moving singularities in any way. 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f64f25e63eb2 11:33:48 Grunt: <3 11:34:03 wheals: could, though it might be a bit similar to tornado then 11:34:12 my concerns with singularity are as follows 11:34:47 (1) extends to nearly twice LOS (2) clears zigs trivially (3) apparently quite weak outside zigs (where it doesn't have huge mobs of enemies to slam against each-other) 11:35:46 removing collision damage and balancing damage purely around distance from the singularity might be less fun, but it does seem like it might be the best way to solve 2/3 11:36:09 on the other hand, (3) might be false; I'd like more feedback on that before acting 11:36:10 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:38 and i guess maybe the range that you can place it should be lowered? 11:36:49 Grunt: what's the max radius of the AOE? 11:37:25 wheals: LOS_RADIUS right now 11:37:44 wow 11:37:48 yeah 11:37:49 that's a lot of radius 11:38:18 every one of the changes we've proposed makes it more similar to tornado; there's probably a moral there 11:39:38 i wonder if there's any way to make collision damage better in less packed groups 11:39:57 since really, that's what you'd expect off-hand if you just heard about it 11:39:58 I'm going to tinker with this further 11:40:14 The damage the singularity deals directly falls off very sharply with range atm. 11:40:31 Probably I'm going to give this a different function of strength vs range. 11:40:39 does collision damage depend on range? 11:40:45 No. 11:41:28 oh 11:41:35 I just broke things with M_PROJECTILE 11:41:53 oops 11:41:58 anyway, is this still better than first tornado implementation? :) 11:42:00 easy to fix 11:43:51 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2810-gaef931b: fix loading randart ring mails in dump files (#9148) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aef931b78d2b 11:45:03 -!- cs_0x6373 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:45:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:47:16 doh 11:47:21 I just nuked the rest of the code I was working on 11:47:27 erp 11:48:21 !send Grunt a deadly level 4 nuke 11:48:21 Sending a deadly level 4 nuke to Grunt. 11:48:59 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2811-gb84b679: Move singularity acting code before IOOD check. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b84b67957b44 11:49:08 oh I can reproduce the code really quickly 11:49:16 I still have the bit of notes open that I needed to do it 11:50:06 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:36 -!- Isvaffell is now known as Isvaffel 11:50:41 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:03 aha 11:51:09 I have learned something new as a result of this. 11:51:13 !? 11:51:26 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2812-g94d3aa4: Show strength=2 radius in singularity targeter as well. 10(81 seconds ago, 4 files, 9+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94d3aa48cef9 11:53:26 good minmaxing 11:54:26 -!- Sombra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:58:57 foophykins (L19 MuWz) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Vaults:5) 11:59:03 foophykins (L19 MuWz) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Vaults:5) 11:59:14 oh no 11:59:27 doy: sounds like we need to fix save compat 11:59:38 -!- foophykins has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:12 foophykins: sorry, that's a problem on doy and my parts 12:00:16 s/doy and/doy's and/ 12:00:21 I'll get on it asap 12:00:22 Which is that? 12:00:26 Vaults? 12:00:27 !crash foophykins 12:00:27 12. foophykins, XL19 MuWz, T:86910 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/foophykins/crash-foophykins-20141127-175903.txt 12:00:31 !lm foophykins crash 12:00:32 12. [2014-11-27 17:59:03] foophykins the Eclecticist (L19 MuWz of Sif Muna) ASSERT(parts & MP GHOST DEMON || !mons is ghost demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed on turn 86910. (Vaults:5) 12:00:32 ^ 12:00:51 Ahh. 12:01:56 !source mons_is_ghost_demon 12:01:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc;hb=HEAD#l1233 12:04:23 Mandragora (L16 DrWn) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1297 failed. (Swamp:1) 12:05:15 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:05:24 yeah it expects there to be a ghost in the unmarshalled lich 12:05:31 wheals: yeah, I'm on it 12:06:01 RBrandon (L23 NaFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Crypt:2) 12:06:05 wheals: do you have an old save around with a lich kicking around in it by chance? 12:06:13 I need to make sure this will work properly 12:06:19 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:22 no, remember that my hard drive died? :) 12:06:25 oh 12:06:26 sorry 12:06:27 rip 12:06:44 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2813-gada22b1: Change dependence of Singularity radius / strength on power. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ada22b11b464 12:07:06 RBrandon (L23 NaFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Crypt:2) 12:08:23 I'll generate one myself quickly... 12:08:31 you could ask foophykins for a copy 12:08:37 probably? 12:08:51 foophykins: do you know how to do a save backup? 12:09:14 (I'm halfway to building the version just before randliches so it'll be irrelevant shortly, but) 12:09:17 v0v 12:09:22 it would be good to make sure it fixes your game 12:09:22 :) 12:09:36 5102 m.target.x = unmarshallByte(th); 5103 m.target.y = unmarshallByte(th); 5104 5105 m.firing_pos = unmarshallCoord(th); 5106 m.patrol_point = unmarshallCoord(th); 12:09:41 oops 12:09:44 wheals: hi? 12:09:59 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tags.cc;hb=HEAD#l5095 12:10:19 i just find it ridiculous that it uses unmarshallcoord right there, but above it unmarshall byte x2 12:12:08 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:59 I think you use the menu on CAO 12:13:28 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4: Save compat for randliches. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=79a78a45d7a0 12:13:40 I saved it 12:13:50 quick, toss me the link :) 12:14:08 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/saves/foophykins-crawl-git-cc9fb9076a-141127-1313.tar.bz2 12:15:08 and your crash happened on load? 12:15:20 On entering Vaults:5 12:16:38 good, it doesn't crash 12:16:40 and loads properly 12:16:40 so 12:16:45 just sit tight while this rebuilds :) 12:17:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:17:23 oh 12:17:29 grunt, spl-transloc.cc:1224 12:17:39 would it be interesting to give Wryhcdzheimz worshipers extra piety for taking hatches? or is that already part of the plan? 12:17:40 I'm in the middle of doing other stuff but you should dd that line imo 12:17:50 johnstein: would it be? 12:18:07 PleasingFungus: ??? 12:18:08 -!- sepik121 has quit [Client Quit] 12:18:16 New god? 12:18:18 Grunt: it's a dead variable 12:18:27 PleasingFungus: oh 1223 12:18:36 hm 12:18:39 oh, sorry, I'm on slightly old code 12:18:56 foophykins: wbacktrackicus is not to be underestimated..... 12:19:01 (yes) 12:19:09 foophykins: that was |amethyst's suggestion (not sure how serious. it's pronounced Rick James) 12:19:15 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2815-g2fa5026: Call down the wrath of NO GOD against DEAD VARIABLE (PleasingFungus). 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2fa5026c6d98 12:20:39 Grunt: brutal... 12:20:43 (hail clang) 12:21:01 johnstein: finally, a god with a name that's easy to pronounce! 12:21:01 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:21:19 So I guess Twisted Resurrection has been removed? 12:21:25 PleasingFungus: that's why I like it! 12:21:36 foophykins: rip 12:22:14 foophykins (L19 MuWz) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Vaults:5) 12:24:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:24:25 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:25:19 foophykins: patience 12:25:23 the server's still rebuilding :) 12:25:27 Oh 12:25:31 foophykins: when Henzell announces the rebuild you can try again 12:26:42 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:27:11 PleasingFungus: 12:27:14 !source shopping.cc:82 12:27:15 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc;hb=HEAD#l82 12:27:20 variable name you might appreciate 12:27:24 shoppy <3 12:27:55 !send PleasingFungus Plojy, Glorpo and Loopy 12:27:55 Sending Plojy, Glorpo and Loopy to PleasingFungus. 12:27:56 I really appreciate all these hardcoded line offsets 12:28:06 cgotoxy(47, numlines, GOTO_CRT); 12:28:18 // set cursor [21 from above, + 21 chars + 5 whitespace] 12:28:18 47!!! 12:28:29 (that comment is about twenty lines up and referring to a different bit of code, of course) 12:28:34 goto_cry 12:28:34 theTower: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:28:59 sCylight (L22 FoFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Depths:1) 12:29:00 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29:11 sCylight (L22 FoFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Depths:1) 12:29:16 sCylight (L22 FoFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Depths:1) 12:29:21 ugh 12:29:28 stop trying to load the game!!! 12:29:38 wuddnt me. 12:29:42 I know :b 12:29:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:30:01 stop trying to play our game!!!! 12:30:08 !hellfire wheals 12:30:08 * Sequell ends wheals in hellfire! You hear a strangely unpleasant explosion. 12:31:23 sCylight (L22 FoFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Depths:1) 12:31:53 -!- sCy_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:32:11 sCylight (L22 FoFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Depths:1) 12:32:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4 (34) 12:33:12 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:33:52 oh, do things get confused if a saved monster wasn't a ghost demon before and is now? 12:33:56 i didn't think of that/: 12:34:19 lichdemon 12:34:52 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:35:40 can anyone point me to the right fix? 12:35:48 i'm not terribly familiar with the savefile code 12:37:50 %git 79a78a45d7a0 12:37:50 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2814-g79a78a4: Save compat for randliches. 10(30 minutes ago, 2 files, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=79a78a45d7a0 12:37:50 oh, never mind, looks like grunt fixed it 12:37:53 ^ ? 12:37:57 yeah 12:37:57 (: 12:38:02 (:?? 12:38:02 (: 12:38:04 my internet is a bit flickery 12:38:42 !log logicninja zig 12:38:43 14. LogicNinja, XL27 DEFE, T:186370: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LogicNinja/morgue-LogicNinja-20141127-084737.txt 12:38:46 14 12:38:49 ... 12:40:03 pff, I've only died in a zig... thrice? 12:40:18 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:40:54 !lg * logicninja s=place 12:40:55 No keyword 'logicninja' 12:40:59 fr 12:41:04 !lg logicninja s=place 12:41:05 11288 games for logicninja: 4110x D:1, 2024x D:2, 1705x D:3, 1050x D:4, 448x D:5, 308x D:6, 225x D:7, 183x D:8, 139x D:9, 96x D:10, 73x D:11, 67x D:$, 52x Lair:1, 47x Sewer, 44x D:12, 37x D:13, 36x Lair:3, 34x Abyss:1, 33x Lair:8, 33x Ossuary, 31x Lair:5, 29x Lair:2, 28x Bailey, 27x Elf:3, 26x IceCv, 24x Orc:4, 24x Lair:4, 20x Lair:6, 20x D:14, 17x Lair:7, 17x D:15, 13x Orc:2, 13x Lab, 13x D:16, 1... 12:42:06 sCylight (L22 FoFi) ASSERT(parts & MP_GHOST_DEMON || !mons_is_ghost_demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed. (Depths:1) 12:42:40 !lm sCylight x=vlong 12:42:41 1775. [2014-11-27 18:42:05] [vlong=0.16-a0-2805-gcc9fb90] sCylight the Peltast (L22 FoFi of Okawaru) ASSERT(parts & MP GHOST DEMON || !mons is ghost demon(m.type)) in 'tags.cc' at line 5471 failed on turn 45894. (Depths:1) 12:44:44 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2816-ge730921: Brace. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e7309210beb0 12:47:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141124100136]] 12:48:07 -!- enthash has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:48:38 |amethyst: combo score page lists the url http://kr.dobrazupa.org/morgue/trunk/hanon12/morgue-hanon12-20140605-162326.txt for hanon12's HO win, but it's a broken link 12:49:52 -!- TR_Muscateer is now known as Cerpin 12:49:54 -!- Cerpin is now known as Z_LAMP 12:51:00 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Quit: Having his crunching of his eye, nor my wicked Noah's ark. Cribbed and fright and again politely bidding him down, as far more abundantly supplied than usual.] 12:51:17 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:38 -!- Cerpin has quit [Client Quit] 12:51:41 doy: oh look 12:51:42 ^watch Grunt 12:51:43 No current CBRO game for Grunt. 12:51:47 ^watch SGrunt 12:51:47 Watch SGrunt at: http://crawl.berotato.org:8080/#watch-SGrunt 12:51:49 I've made a new friend 12:51:52 -!- Z_LAMP has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:17 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Client Quit] 12:52:21 and 12:52:22 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:22 it's dead 12:52:26 so too late for you 12:53:53 rip Grunt's only friend 12:54:56 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:55:59 !lm . uniq -2 12:56:00 4646/4647. [2014-11-27 18:52:19] SGrunt the Invulnerable (L27 MiGl of The Shining One) killed the Serpent of Hell on turn 161748. (Dis:7) 12:56:01 doy: ^ 12:56:14 doy: definitely felt like a proper fight this time as opposed to the last time I killed it 12:56:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:57:19 * Grunt breathes crystal spear at doy. 12:58:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:58:26 Dispater (06&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 450 | AC/EV: 40/3 | Dam: 50 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 9455 | Sp: sum.greater demon [06!sil], crystal spear (3d35) [06!sil], iron shot (3d29) [06!sil], hellfire (3d20) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 12:58:26 %??Dispater 12:58:28 unknown monster: "Serpent of hell dis" 12:58:28 %??Serpent of hell dis 12:58:31 :-( 12:58:55 !tell PleasingFungus Xom piety meter patch in 9268 12:58:55 ebering: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:59:38 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:59:56 Bloax: try 13:00:02 Xom "Piety" Meter, reflect Xom moods in asterisks 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9268 by ebering 13:00:02 the Serpent of Hell (10D) | Spd: 14 | HD: 20 | HP: 320 | AC/EV: 30/12 | Dam: 50 per head | 05demonic, 04breaks doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: {head 1: metal splinters (3d32), head 2: b.quicksilver (3d20), head 3: crystal spear (3d40)} [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], sum.dragon [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 13:00:02 %??serpent of hell dis 13:00:07 blasphemy 13:00:10 (I think it has been adjusted since then) 13:00:39 it's basically worse than dispater 13:00:49 dies a bit faster though 13:03:40 less ac 13:10:24 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:10:25 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:11:49 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12:48 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:14:13 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:17:13 %git /ambrosia 13:17:13 Could not find commit /ambrosia (git returned 128) 13:17:14 it also has reach 13:17:23 %git :/ambrosia 13:17:23 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-32-g24381c4: Don't give out royal jellies in Spider (ends). 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 13+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=24381c416777 13:20:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:21:20 WIll nem be getting 1 and 2 star abilities again 13:23:44 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:59 Why does the venom card give rP-? 13:24:21 low power 13:24:26 i think it used to give sting 13:24:35 so now its venom bolt + -rp at low power 13:25:43 -!- Mazed has quit [] 13:26:08 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:26:08 oh 13:34:26 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:38:40 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:38:56 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:19 -!- Siegurt has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:20 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:39 * Grunt whistles suspiciously. 13:39:52 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2817-g7c202e2: Give Singularity to random panlords. 10(38 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c202e2f61a5 13:40:58 -!- THICK_BOY_REAGAN has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:42:49 hopefully the version given to random playerlords will be fixed soon as well 13:43:48 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:50:34 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2818-g1ef6e07: Consistently use one ray for singularity pulling. 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 14+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ef6e0773a71 13:50:40 %git HEAD^{/range} 13:50:41 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2813-gada22b1: Change dependence of Singularity radius / strength on power. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ada22b11b464 13:50:42 * geekosaur eyes questionable code 13:50:45 !tell gammafunk %git HEAD^{/range} 13:50:45 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 13:50:55 geekosaur: be more specific:b 13:51:04 it's an int, how can it be greater than INT_MAX? 13:51:11 :| 13:51:39 !apt fe translocations 13:51:39 Fe (SK_TRANSLOCATIONS)=4! 13:51:40 it can be negative but that won't be > INT_MAX 13:51:43 you know what to do 13:51:46 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:57 !singularity gammafunk 13:51:58 Grunt mumbles some strange words. Space collapses on itself with a horrifying crunch! The singularity violently warps gammafunk! 13:52:32 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53:09 %git 13:53:09 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2818-g1ef6e07: Consistently use one ray for singularity pulling. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 14+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ef6e0773a71 13:53:09 gammafunk: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:53:20 %git HEAD^{/range} 13:53:20 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2813-gada22b1: Change dependence of Singularity radius / strength on power. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ada22b11b464 13:55:59 Grunt: you don't think there's a need for a cap on the number of singularities? 13:56:10 or maybe they interact differently now with all that changes 13:56:21 v0v 13:56:26 *the changes 13:56:53 v0v is the newline of 2014 13:56:56 progress, I guess 13:57:07 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:09 geekosaur: you can't but it makes the compiler shut up about control may reach end of non-void function 13:58:32 but it is likely to complain about a comparison that can never succeed instead 13:58:52 let's 13:58:54 we don't switch on i > INT_MAX 13:58:55 er 13:58:57 doh 13:59:09 let's see how newsingularity performs 13:59:16 that's just the only possibility if that for loop doesn't exit and the compiler isn't smart enough to prove that 13:59:21 before we decide if we need cappy 13:59:28 fr: int cappy 13:59:47 -!- fireprfHydra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59:51 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:59:58 a cappytal idea? 14:00:21 loopy, shoppy 14:00:31 plojy (sort of) 14:00:40 but we have an int cappy of 72! 14:00:46 %git HEAD^{/[Pp]lojy} 14:00:46 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2058-g71d152f: Add plojy 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=71d152f8afaa 14:01:22 that's 72, not 72 factorial 14:01:27 would would be a large int cappy 14:01:38 fr: an unrand cappy 14:02:03 well we have a finite number of unrands, so that's effectively already an unrand cappy 14:02:14 Grunt are you even think these fr through at all? 14:02:18 *thinking 14:02:18 as in 14:02:21 a hat 14:02:24 which is a cappy 14:02:33 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:36 what's a cappy, exactly 14:02:47 something that was removed 14:02:53 %git HEAD^{/wizard hat} 14:02:54 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-1854-g0526c8f: Delete translations of "hat". 10(11 months ago, 11 files, 0+ 44-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0526c8fe5ffe 14:02:59 %git HEAD^{/wizard hat}^^{/wizard hat} 14:03:00 07wheals02 {MarvinPA} * 0.14-a0-1850-g13f5ae3: Remove caps; rename wizards hats "hats." 10(11 months ago, 41 files, 90+ 90-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13f5ae3d6da4 14:03:04 I get this http://www.sundancedeli.hu/uploads//termek_nagy/cappy_oszi.jpg 14:03:04 ^ rip 14:03:06 ...it was a crappy cappy? 14:03:52 Grunt: cap of the octopus king, to complete their equipment set 14:03:56 ! 14:04:30 gammafunk: clearly "crown of" 14:05:05 tru 14:05:19 add a shield too 14:05:51 maximum octopus king 14:14:40 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:15:34 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:15:39 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:17:04 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:34 i thought that dyrovepreva was the octopus king 14:23:14 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:23:20 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:41 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:18 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25:41 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:25:56 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:26:53 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:29:27 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:32:20 my box got stuck compiling a single source file for hours about 3hrs ago, was something funky committed around then? 14:32:47 you don't know which file it was? 14:33:00 git log if so 14:33:13 sadly not :( 14:33:23 I think it was when explore mode was merged 14:33:53 building latest tree now, let's see if the problem reoccurs 14:35:07 !tell zxc232 looks like oom caused by runaway trunk compilation. not sure what caused compilation to eat all the RAM though 14:35:08 chequers: OK, I'll let zxc232 know. 14:36:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:23 %git --author=gammafunk 14:40:23 07gammafunk02 * b2afc92e008c: Put phantom mirrors with miscellaneous items on the knowledge screen 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 9+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2afc92e008c 14:40:30 nothing funky committed in a while 14:40:48 not a lot of funky commits in general if you look at the numbers 14:40:50 probably for the best 14:40:50 %git :/gammafunk 14:40:50 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2638-g62feda9: Make bone armour incompatible with stoneskin/ozo's (gammafunk) 10(5 days ago, 3 files, 26+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=62feda9d1ced 14:41:00 !messages 14:41:01 No messages for TZer0. 14:41:01 mm, nothing funky that way either 14:41:10 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:41:15 %git :/grammafunk 14:41:16 07gammafunk02 {Grunt} * 0.13-a0-2317-ge9fcc15: New forest vaults, including a forest end, and a generic overflow temple 10(1 year, 5 months ago, 2 files, 273+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9fcc15c4a59 14:41:27 -!- blackpenguin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 14:41:27 ...weird 14:41:39 that's my first commit I think 14:41:41 grammafunk_forest_enchanted_lake 14:41:44 CONFIRMED 14:41:47 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:42:06 -!- Schizzik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:42:14 !blame Grunt 14:42:15 I pronounce Grunt... Guilty! 14:42:18 ??blame grunt 14:42:18 grunt[2/27]: is there some occasion on which you cannot blame grunt 14:42:20 <3 14:42:23 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:44:04 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:58 -!- Monkaria has quit [Client Quit] 14:46:18 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:49:59 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:52:43 -!- foophykins has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:53 !blame wheals 14:53:53 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 14:57:27 -!- Earlo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:24 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:01:39 -!- Siegurt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:06:18 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:18 The build was broken. (master - aef931b #840 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42330992 15:06:18 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 15:08:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:17:34 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:17:43 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:44 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:23:16 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 15:25:57 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:02 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 15:26:31 unknown monster: "serpent of hell:dis" 15:26:31 %??serpent of hell:dis 15:27:13 the Serpent of Hell (10D) | Spd: 14 | HD: 20 | HP: 320 | AC/EV: 30/12 | Dam: 50 per head | 05demonic, 04breaks doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: {head 1: metal splinters (3d32), head 2: b.quicksilver (3d20), head 3: crystal spear (3d40)} [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], sum.dragon [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 15:27:13 %??serpent of hell dis 15:27:14 the Serpent of Hell (10D) | Spd: 14 | HD: 20 | HP: 320 | AC/EV: 30/12 | Dam: 50 per head | 05demonic, 04breaks doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 05fire, 02cold, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: {head 1: metal splinters (3d32), head 2: b.quicksilver (3d20), head 3: crystal spear (3d40)} [11!AM, 06!sil, 08breath], sum.dragon [06!sil] | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 15:27:14 %??serpent of hell dis 15:27:17 * Grunt roars! 15:27:19 weird, it's case sensitive. 15:27:21 \o/ 15:27:29 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:27:46 -!- domiryuu has quit [Client Quit] 15:27:56 * Grunt roars in 7.1 surround sound! 15:29:50 make grunt SOUND=y 15:34:30 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:35:45 -!- bleak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:52 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:03 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:42:37 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzglotza 15:43:03 <_miek> whereabouts are the files for functions like auto-explore? 15:43:10 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:43:24 -!- read has quit [Quit: brb] 15:43:41 ugh 15:43:43 where is PleasingFungus 15:43:46 when I am about to do Coc 15:44:55 you can do that by yourself, Grunt 15:45:48 gammafunk: I told PleasingFungus he could watch when I did Coc 15:45:48 rip 15:45:48 rip 15:45:50 yeah rip 15:46:20 Berder (L21 VpEn) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1297 failed. (Zot:3) 15:46:27 maybe I should rebuild cszo 15:46:57 We can rebuild cszo! We have the technology! 15:47:33 There's a joke in there somewhere about sharing coc with pleasingfungus... 15:48:16 I kind of already mae it 15:48:17 *made it 15:48:39 <_miek> no answer? 15:49:24 _miek: the simplest way to get a sense of source locations for large features like that is e.g. grep -i autopickup 15:49:39 or grep -i autopickup *.cc 15:50:31 <_miek> yeah I just don't know what to grep for 15:51:05 well just the string autopickup is a good start 15:51:41 <_miek> yep. Thanks :) 15:51:50 <_miek> thought it was a LUA function but apparently its too complicated for that. 15:54:37 yeah it looks like other than enabling/disabling autopickup and of course the autopickup settings, there's not much lua interaction 15:54:57 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:55:26 <_miek> maybe what I should be looking at is the shift+Dir functions instead 15:55:32 <_miek> which I think I found the file for 15:56:21 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:54 FR: pick unwon combo and pick viable unwon combo 15:58:23 bh: from where, Sequell? 15:58:42 otherwise it'd not really be possible without like a centralized game db 15:58:47 gammafunk: in game... yeah 15:59:02 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:07 yeah not going happen any time soon 16:04:01 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:22 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:08:05 chequers: they're still called admin_commands in config.toml.sample 16:08:05 edlothiol: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:09:35 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:09:47 !tell PleasingFungus you missed shrikes :( 16:09:47 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:10:10 chequers: and yes to config.get 16:11:30 -!- Cerpin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:13:17 -!- muravey_ has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 16:15:02 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:15:14 * Grunt shoots a blessed arrow. The blessed arrow hits bh!! bh convulses!!!! 16:15:37 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:07 bh: !next 16:17:41 -!- muravey_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:18:08 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:31 -!- muravey_ has quit [Client Quit] 16:19:59 !lm SGrunt uniq=cerebov migl -tv:<3.0 16:20:00 1. SGrunt, XL27 MiGl, T:141030 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 16:21:51 edlothiol: yo 16:22:22 edlothiol: good catch. do you like the idea in general? 16:23:30 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:41 !tell PleasingFungus I also never found the Plane Papyrus, rip 16:26:42 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:28:36 edlothiol: actually, re: using config.get everywhere -- I'm having second thoughts. config.attr is much simpler/shorter visually. Perhaps I should just change conf.py so that no toml variable names are shadowed by post-toml-load config-processing (eg self.games) 16:29:16 chequers: yeah, though I'm a bit worried about dev accounts that aren't registered 16:29:58 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:30:00 chequers: though I saw you had an option that disallowed registering dev accounts 16:30:51 hrm, yeah I made that file mostly to support player titles, but I guess as long as its in the repo and kept up to date 16:30:54 it shouldn't cause any problems 16:31:53 Coc:2: door_vault 16:31:53 dang 16:31:56 I didn't even see it 16:34:38 edlothiol: yes, the idea is to add that ability as an admin command 16:45:23 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:45:39 <_miek> Is there no way to bind keys like Home/PgUp/numkeys via bindkey in the settings file? 16:50:14 -!- muravey_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:58 there is (or may be) but what they send can differ, and sometimes they don't send different things (ssh --- terminals often do not distingiuish between numpad and top row number keys) 16:57:56 not sure how you find out what it sends, except maybe by creating macros and then inspecting the macro file 16:58:55 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:59:36 <_miek> okay 16:59:55 <_miek> working on an idea for a "single-move-only-if-safe" key 17:00:51 speaking of which, there is some confusing text in macros.txt... 17:00:59 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:01:10 "The following should remedy that by mapping '@' to '@'." 17:02:50 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 17:03:02 ok, you can get it from the keymap editor and use the escape sequence as a keybind in the config file 17:03:33 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:35 like I pressed: ~ k F9 17:03:51 and it displayed \{-273} which should be the thing to use in the config 17:04:07 (press ESC to abort creating the key binding interactively) 17:05:34 <_miek> hmmm 17:05:39 <_miek> I'm trying to do ctrl+4 17:05:43 <_miek> but everytime it just shows 4 17:05:50 ssh? 17:06:01 most terminals don't know how to make a control+4 17:06:01 <_miek> nah just local game 17:06:05 <_miek> ah.. 17:06:07 <_miek> that's possibly why 17:06:09 console then 17:06:10 yes 17:06:24 <_miek> ctrl+4 (not numpad) seems to work 17:06:24 you'll need to see if you can configure the terminal to do something with those 17:06:41 <_miek> okay 17:06:49 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:06:51 <_miek> perhaps I'll just override shift+direction and make it a non-default 17:07:47 <_miek> oh can't even do that 17:07:49 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:08:22 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:08:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:37 might be better off playing tiles; in the GUI control is just a modifier that can be applied to any key, in a terminal you are generally stuck with whichever of ISO8859 or Unicode that it supports, plus other things that map to escape sequences 17:09:50 which crawl then maps to something else via curses 17:10:15 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 17:10:25 for example, in a terminal that F9 key I mentioned sends [ 2 0 ~ 17:10:26 <_miek> right 17:10:46 <_miek> well my end goal is for this to be possible in webtiles 17:11:07 and control usually maps to the bottom of the ASCII table, so control-@ through control-_ are defined but nothing else works by default 17:16:11 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:34 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:03 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:21 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:20:43 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-2818-g1ef6e07 (34) 17:21:48 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:21:50 -!- fireprfHydra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:25:55 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:26:43 -!- stanzglotza is now known as stanzill 17:30:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:33:19 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:40 !tell _miek i'd suggest you look at %bug 6581 17:33:41 wheals: OK, I'll let _miek know. 17:35:18 wow i like how the implementer made both SAFE_MOVE_NOWHERE and SAFE_WAIT 17:35:30 %git HEAD^{/WAIT} 17:35:30 07doy02 * 0.16-a0-2662-g06ad4b3: remove CMD_MOVE_NOWHERE, since it is identical to CMD_WAIT 10(4 days ago, 20 files, 52+ 57-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=06ad4b3bc7a2 17:35:39 good, in trunk 17:36:02 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:38 !tell _miek https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6581 to be clear; actually, i think the only problem with that patch is what the keybinding should be 17:36:38 wheals: OK, I'll let _miek know. 17:37:03 random question, anyone know why tiles usage dropped in 0.12 compared to 0.11? https://shalott.org/graphs/f4f523a06de6bc10e43d1c9a9cc947f4990a3187.html 17:37:25 but unsurprisingly, it's been dead for a year and a half 17:37:39 chequers: i think there was no European webtiles at that time 17:37:45 !lg tiles src=cdo x=start 17:37:45 5. [start=2012-01-25 18:20:22 [20120025182022S]] tiles the Martial Artist (L10 SENe of Kikubaaqudgha), slain by a hill giant (a cursed +0,-3 giant club) on D:10 on 2012-01-25 20:49:10, with 6835 points after 12753 turns and 1:21:35. 17:37:47 yeh, that 17:38:02 heh, cool 17:38:18 <_miek> haha I made a safe move nowhere too 17:38:18 _miek: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:38:20 <_miek> but removed that 17:38:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:28 The build was broken. (master - 79a78a4 #844 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42334170 17:38:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:38:29 !lg * tiles cdo x=cv 17:38:32 378976. [cv=0.11] yalue the Chiller (L1 HEIE), slain by a kobold on D:1 on 2013-05-09 13:53:45, with 52 points after 316 turns and 0:03:26. 17:38:33 GRUUUUUNT 17:38:44 !lg * tiles cdo max=cv x=cv 17:38:45 378976. [cv=0.11] Napkin the Shield-Bearer (L1 HuFi), quit the game on D:1 (evilmike_entry_rings) on 2012-10-11 14:46:20, with 20 points after 4 turns and 0:00:27. 17:39:16 chequers: that's interesting, i had no idea that tiles was already >50% in its very first version 17:39:19 <_miek> wheals: This is almost exactly the same code that I wrote 17:39:25 <_miek> I guess I'll not bother then 17:39:33 <_miek> is that committed? 17:39:36 no 17:39:44 wheals: I was wondering how soon until support for dgamelaunch could be realistically dropped :P 17:39:45 do you have any ideas for a default keybinding? 17:39:50 <_miek> no 17:39:57 <_miek> infact, my idea was that it shouldn't be a default 17:40:02 wheals: of course, the problem is, the older the member, the more important they are, and the more likely they use ssh 17:40:08 <_miek> but there should be an include that you can use to override one of the other ones 17:40:11 chequers: i expect at some point devs will be the only people playing console 17:40:15 <_miek> either that of ctrl+shift+direction 17:40:19 <_miek> either that or** 17:40:42 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40:43 _miek: yeah, rcfile/macros could do that 17:40:50 <_miek> yeah 17:41:04 <_miek> wheals: well what I mean is like you have "include = vi_keys_colemak.txt" 17:41:08 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:41:10 <_miek> you could have "include = safe_move_keys.txt" 17:41:14 _miek: i suspect ctrl-shift would have similar technical problems to alt 17:41:16 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:23 but i'm not a terminal emulator expert 17:41:35 <_miek> which basically says "choose safe-move instead of safe-run" 17:41:45 <_miek> wheals: Yeah that's the problem I've run into 17:42:09 <_miek> but as a player I pretty much never use run 17:42:18 <_miek> and I'd use this all the time 17:42:25 <_miek> so at least as an option to have it that way 17:42:41 -!- Nakatomy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:19 _miek: ctrl-shift is the same as ctrl usually, so that's out 17:43:45 (technically, ctrl is the same as ctrl-shift usually) 17:44:54 <_miek> right 17:45:14 <_miek> that's sort of why I'm arguing it'll have to replace another of the movement commands, just as an option 17:45:21 !learn e wheals[2] s/$/, haloes, #9090, #6581, close old ones 17:45:22 wheals[2/8]: todo: leeches, plague shamblers???, remove the shop hack, clean up spl-book.cc, ruin stabbing, species-data, haloes, #9090, #6581, close old ones 17:47:35 <_miek> Cool. Thanks wheals. 17:48:22 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50:57 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:50:57 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:51:30 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:51:38 I'd love to see one of Sif Muna's passives to be to condense spellbooks. 17:51:53 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:06 Y'know, slowly over time merging spellbooks into "player-names compendium of Sif" 17:52:52 <_miek> what would be the advantage to that? 17:52:55 <_miek> other than flavour? 17:56:39 Less shit in the inventory 17:57:20 Endgame having "Player-name thick compendium of Sif" 17:58:02 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:12 <_miek> well only if you store them in your inventory 17:59:35 It's convenient when you want to memorize a given spell at a given time. 17:59:41 that would be more convenient than having to return to your stack constantly 18:00:08 is having a stack (as opposed to unlimited inventory) adding any strategic depth? 18:00:36 i guess you need to make decisions like "I'll carry this rC+ ring in case i find an ice cave" 18:01:03 but there's also grunt work like "i'm going to tomb, need to pick up my rN+ boots instead of my rF+ ones" 18:01:48 The flavour of Sif is "The god of Knowledge" ; To me it only makes sense that they make knowledge weightless. 18:01:50 encourages swapping between every vaguely-usable piece of jewellery one finds 18:02:04 (in an infinite inventory scenario, not anything about sif) 18:02:07 * Grunt grunts. 18:02:18 * theTower disasters 18:02:34 * theTower is struck by lightning? 18:03:13 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:19 -!- bleak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:55 the lightning-struck tower 18:05:11 easy vault concept 18:05:22 too easy 18:06:16 lightning rod as loot 18:06:23 <_< 18:06:36 !tornado grunt 18:06:37 gammafunk mumbles some strange words. A great vortex of air appears and lifts gammafunk up! grunt is engulfed in raging winds. 18:06:58 I'm still waiting for someone to make the phantom mirror vault 18:07:23 Where there are mimic-like walls that pop out, pop phantom mirror and you fight yourself a shit load of times? 18:07:33 probably we need to bring back terpsichore 18:07:36 ??terpsichore 18:07:36 terpsichore[1/1]: A Tukima-using unique that existed in 0.8-a for about 1.5 months. 18:07:44 amazing, remembered the spelling 18:07:55 ...no, just rakshasas and phantoms and green crystal walls and whatever else somebody adds, possibly mara 18:08:10 Needs moar mara. 18:08:21 I'd love to fight phantoms in a vault with mara 18:08:30 I just love phantoms 18:08:34 so much! 18:08:42 fine then, phantasmals 18:08:47 better! 18:09:37 Phantastic. 18:18:03 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:23:09 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:23:38 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:26:54 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:30:53 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:39:52 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:43:29 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:41 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:46:39 http://sprunge.us/eeiP 18:46:39 hm 18:48:10 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:18 Grunt: ah well :( 18:51:18 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 18:51:20 how were the shrikes? 18:51:30 (was up in the city with family) 18:51:34 I fled from the first pack <_< 18:51:38 then a pack randomly spawned on :7 18:51:43 neat 18:51:44 I was literally up against the wall :p 18:52:01 !lm . br.end=coc 18:52:02 2. [2014-11-27 21:51:10] SGrunt the Invulnerable (L27 MiGl of The Shining One) reached level 7 of Cocytus on turn 166204. (Coc:7) 18:52:05 !lm . uniq=antaeus 18:52:05 2. [2014-11-27 22:03:10] SGrunt the Invulnerable (L27 MiGl of The Shining One) killed Antaeus on turn 167961. (Coc:7) 18:52:06 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:52:18 !lg . -tv:T167961:channel=shrikestrike 18:52:19 1405. SGrunt, XL27 MiGl, T:169298 requested for shrikestrike (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 18:52:36 good channel name 18:52:39 (this will take a bit to load) 18:53:07 didn't take that long! 18:53:17 huh the other TVs I was pulling from it earlier took longer 18:53:17 v0v 18:53:21 weird. 18:53:29 I guess they were from the longer play stretch 18:53:30 :) 18:53:37 hm. looking at your patch - that's a patch to make hell beast trample cause collision damage? 18:53:43 PleasingFungus: and SoH trample 18:53:45 also that, yes 18:53:59 I'm still not sure how I feel about collision damage at all 18:54:01 imo watch the tv 18:54:03 shrikes right away 18:54:08 oh, good laj name 18:54:10 there they are! 18:54:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:11 The build passed. (master - e730921 #846 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42336608 18:54:11 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:54:14 it slices, it dices! 18:54:24 rip shrikes 18:54:24 yep, glass cannons 18:54:29 did a lot of damage very fast, died very fast 18:54:31 They got me down to half health 18:54:40 I think that only happened about three other times in the hells 18:54:45 the worst was against Ereshkigal, oddly 18:54:49 once per hell sounds about right :) 18:54:53 heh! 18:54:55 eresh can be nasty when she decides to be 18:54:58 once was against 18:55:00 the Serpent of Hell 18:55:02 :) 18:55:03 !!! 18:55:04 whcih one 18:55:12 !lm . uniq=the_serpent_of_tell -tv 18:55:13 No milestones for Grunt (uniq=the_serpent_of_tell). 18:55:14 er 18:55:23 serpent_of_william_tell 18:55:23 !lm . uniq=the_serpent_of_hell -tv:channel=shrikestrike 18:55:24 2. SGrunt, XL27 MiGl, T:161748 (milestone) requested for shrikestrike (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 18:57:09 wtf, https://twitter.com/crawlcode/status/538037597805629440 got favorited 18:57:11 by 18:57:13 Archaeology Now 18:57:27 !nuke shrikestrike 18:57:28 !lm . uniq=the_serpent_of_hell -tv:channel=shrikestrike 18:57:29 2. SGrunt, XL27 MiGl, T:161748 (milestone) requested for shrikestrike (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 18:57:31 shrikestrike playlist clear requested by Grunt. 18:57:36 hm 18:57:37 https://twitter.com/archeologynow 18:57:47 there it goes 18:57:53 oh man, dis 7 soh 18:57:54 !lm . uniq=the_serpent_of_hell -tv:channel=shrikestrike 18:57:54 2. SGrunt, XL27 MiGl, T:161748 (milestone) requested for shrikestrike (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 18:57:55 that sounds familiar 18:57:56 aw 18:57:57 ruined 18:58:07 I was kind of hoping you wouldn't see that until the tv started 18:58:07 rip 18:59:01 pew pew 18:59:07 JUSTICE 18:59:12 vengeance... 18:59:23 (I really enjoy naming my weapons for some reason) 18:59:36 !lg . sk=evocations won -log 18:59:36 1. SGrunt, XL27 FoFi, T:82864: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/SGrunt/morgue-SGrunt-20141031-034910.txt 18:59:40 it sounds fun :) 19:00:19 b - a +9 rod of inaccuracy (17/17) {boomstick, !a} 19:00:25 (this was just before iron rod landed) 19:00:53 Grunt: what do I need to do to make this SDL stuff jive properly in git? 19:00:57 I'm done submodule init and update 19:01:08 bh: what's not jiving? 19:01:26 Untracked files: crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl-image/ 19:01:36 At what hunger level do Vp start healing slowly 19:01:48 bh: imo go to contrib/sdl-image and remove the untracked files then 19:01:54 git status when you're there to see what they are 19:01:59 oh 19:02:00 wait 19:02:08 -!- aiguu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:02:10 It considers sdl-image itself untracked, probably. 19:02:15 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:16 oh, thirsty 19:02:24 ...if so, just rm -rf it and be done with it :b 19:02:30 can "Vp heals slowly when thirsy to near bloodless" be done away with 19:02:34 (rm -rf something) 19:03:12 [17:02] tabstorm can "Vp" be done away with 19:03:25 rip. 19:03:25 rip 19:03:25 think of the millimarvins... 19:03:28 <3 19:03:48 PleasingFungus: xompiety submitted 19:03:52 ebering: I saw 19:03:56 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:04:00 ? 19:04:04 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:04:06 I think I have a more elegant solution to the problem geekosaur mentioned 19:04:11 but I want to finish up what I'm doing first 19:04:11 just getting rid of slow healing would make them mostly fine 19:04:16 slow healing is just horrible 19:04:18 give me a day or two 19:04:20 it slows down the game so much 19:04:31 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:04:33 (not that I'd care if vp was removed) 19:04:44 Grunt: it worked! 19:04:58 bh: good 19:04:58 if you can say it in a word or two I can just fix it 19:04:59 moooooooore blooooooood 19:05:21 ebering: remove the last 'breakpoint', replace the die with 'return ARRAYSZ(breakpoints);' or w/e the array was called 19:05:52 tabstorm: it's sort of nice having a smooth gradient of healing rates across hunger levels. but I guess bloodless is already a discontinuity in other ways? 19:05:53 idk 19:05:54 I don't feel strongly. 19:06:12 well it's "sort of nice" in theory but actually playing with slow healing is horrible 19:06:21 FR: tile icon for potion of ambrosia 19:06:22 its one thing with a ghoul 19:06:24 because you just chow down 19:06:36 Does Mu have slow healing as well? I don't remember 19:06:36 I've got code mostly done 19:06:46 it's not like the currently changed slow healing, right? 19:06:55 Grunt: how much will you hate me if I add "of Ogrewhelming Force" as a weapon description? 19:06:58 I don't know what the currently changed slow healing is 19:06:59 the one that only hurts healing with monsters in los or whatever 19:07:07 oh 19:07:12 bh: save the puns for the players and devs imo 19:07:13 I think it's just your healing rate 19:07:25 bh: we already torture the player enough in fairer ways 19:07:26 <_< 19:07:27 seems like a "consistency" area that would help 19:07:28 because it makes no mention of "monsters in LoS" 19:07:38 in my "mutations dependent on hunger" page 19:08:25 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:08:37 well at v. thirsty it takes around 5-7 turns to heal 1hp 19:08:50 Grunt: how about we add MP Rot? 19:09:01 bh: for? 19:09:04 ebering: ! 19:09:08 ^ to torture the players. 19:09:11 bh: No 19:09:21 If tabstorm hates it, it must be a good idea. 19:09:23 bh: as in, what would use it 19:09:32 Grunt: training spellcasting used MP rot for a while 19:09:36 PleasingFungus: I'm not sure exactly waht you meant by ambrosia 19:09:38 what yould you even heal it with 19:09:41 !magic? 19:09:45 yeah 19:09:50 there's like 3-4 a game of those 19:09:51 right now the implementation gives you Elixer like-like regen while you're confused 19:09:53 mummies can spend 1 permanent HP 19:09:55 "Very meaningful!" 19:09:58 yeah, my thoughts on this is simply to keep the gradiant as well as reduce the annoyance of slow healing by making it use the current mut_slow_healing thing 19:10:05 ends if you become unconfused 19:10:17 well i feel if you just stop healing at bloodless you remember 19:10:22 "bloodless = no healing = dark red = bad" 19:10:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:10:25 ??elixir card 19:10:25 elixir card[1/1]: Restores health and/or magic over time, at a rate of 10% maxHP/MP per turn. Power 0: 10-30% health or 30-70% magic. Power 1: 30-50% health if at <50% HP, 100% magic otherwise. Power 2: 100% HP and MP. Found in war, changes, defense. 19:10:30 vs "Oh when do i heal slowly again.." 19:10:33 ebering: huh, both hp and mp? 19:10:36 PleasingFungus: yea 19:10:40 powerful, but it just might work........ 19:10:41 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mutation-data.h;#l245 19:10:57 unwield distortion to extend your ambrosia regen 19:11:22 the ambrosia effect has a separate timer 19:11:33 if you get extra confused it will still end normally 19:11:43 ends if you become unconfused 19:11:50 what does that mean then 19:12:01 if you q !curing the regen ends also 19:12:20 or purify yourself with elvy 19:12:27 it doesn't expire if the confusion expires naturally? 19:12:31 it does 19:12:35 I should say 19:12:48 it expires if confusion expires (for whatever reason) or it times out, whichever is first 19:12:48 then " unwield distortion to extend your ambrosia regen" will work 19:13:23 uh 19:13:27 vaguely tempted to say it should have a unique confuse-copy status (with the healing attached) just to avoid all these questions 19:13:31 if confusion can end it by naturally expiring it follows that extending confusion dur will work 19:13:47 theTower: that seems like it would only cause more of a mess 19:13:51 a lot of stuff checks for confusion 19:13:57 pah 19:13:57 minmay: he just explained how it doesn't........... 19:14:00 well, you could make the confusion guaranteed to last longer than the regen 19:14:05 PleasingFungus: I just explained how it does, three times 19:14:26 minmay: when you quaff it it adds some number to both DUR_CONF and DUR_AMBROSIA 19:14:37 you seem to be assuming that the DUR_CONF starts out shorter than DUR_AMBROSIA...? 19:14:40 (randomly generated, but the same) 19:14:41 that was @ minmay 19:14:54 (have DUR_AMBROSIA imply confusion like berserking implies might and haste) 19:14:59 ebering: oh, they are always identical; I assumed they were different 19:15:12 hm 19:15:13 well DUR_CONF can be > DUR_AMBROSIA 19:15:13 actually 19:15:15 yes, if the DUR_CONF is never smaller than the DUR_AMBROSIA then it is not an issue 19:15:26 my analogy was to exh and slow from berserking 19:15:31 personally 19:15:33 (though being completely and totally bizarre and spoilery is still an issue, surely quaffing curing is the first thing anyone would try?) 19:15:42 minmay: is it spoilery if it's in the description of ht eitem 19:15:48 PleasingFungus: neither of those are beneficial to extend 19:15:52 people read descrptions??? 19:15:56 *descriptions 19:16:01 -!- vimpulse has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:03 also in the description of the status, since descriptions of statuses are a thing we have 19:16:07 well, it'd be good to read the description of something you've never seen before 19:16:19 unless people complained about not knowing what lignif did 19:16:28 PleasingFungus: if it's actually explicit no, but crawl is not good at having descriptions that aren't completely obtuse because flavour 19:16:39 PleasingFungus: (did you ever read the old gourmand description) 19:16:40 minmay: that seems like a solvable problem :) 19:16:43 minmay: no 19:17:01 theTower: a lot of people complain about that :P 19:17:20 tbf, lig has weird corner cases 19:17:22 hm 19:17:45 hmmm, what's a better example 19:17:45 s/has \(.*\) corner.*/is \1// 19:17:49 ha 19:17:51 yes 19:17:57 does lignification's description mention that you can quaff it to reduce primal wave and water elemental damage? 19:18:01 (...yeah, lignif is a mess of problems) 19:18:18 minmay: doesn't mention any of its resists :) 19:18:29 (just checked) 19:18:29 fr show unbreathing on % 19:18:51 theTower: someone might reasonably assume that would let you, for example, survive in deep water 19:19:02 on an unrelated note, I have a branch that makes it do that 19:19:14 um 19:19:32 actually that branch only does races, since forms are such a nightmarish mess when they interact with instant death terrain 19:19:33 so nvm 19:20:24 well, tree form surviving in water would only be relevant if you went into tree form while flying over a deep water square that stops being a deep water square before you transform back 19:20:40 there's alsoa question on the taavern about the interaction between treeform and chei 19:20:43 fine, make rWater a thing with two pips and the second pip is rDrowning >_> 19:20:55 since you can't move or teleport, and changing back would presumably kill you (i know it doesn't when you do it in wizmode but nobody would expect that playing the game) 19:21:12 also, it not killing you when you change back is essentially a bug 19:21:24 so you'd have to either quaff it in a pretty specific place in shoals, or quaff it over water and then get banished 19:21:29 essentially buggily handled 19:21:36 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:21:41 PleasingFungus: well it's not something that can occur in a non-wizmode game 19:21:48 ya 19:21:51 that's why no one's fixed it 19:21:53 and it's handled "correctly" for ice form 19:22:30 anyway, tree form surviving in water would also be relevant if you went into tree form while flying over deep water which *didn't* stop being deep water before you transform back 19:22:34 because then you would die 19:22:41 however it is indeed totally stupid that mummies/ghouls/vampires/everything unbreathing don't survive in deep water, since that's literally the only thing the average player would immediately expect unbreathing to do 19:22:42 and it doesn't do it 19:22:49 unless you had boots of flying on, which is a thing that the code previously supported 19:22:55 back when tree form survived in deep water 19:23:13 oh, also if you had a ring of flying or other +fly item 19:23:16 I forgot about that 19:23:30 PleasingFungus: but you would die whether or not tree form survived in water, just on different turns 19:24:06 well, the game guarantees you can't get transformed into a form that would kill you instantly 19:24:32 oh, I suppose it could meld boots of flying or some +fly artefact yeah 19:24:36 yep 19:24:42 actually I think that might still be supported for ice form 19:25:28 aw :( apparently not 19:25:35 well i dont think anyone has ever had large enough balls for that mechanic to be relevant in an actual game anyway 19:26:48 I'm thinking of this not from the principle of abuse but of accidental death or surprising non-deaths 19:26:50 but w/e 19:26:54 this is all very hypothetical 19:27:09 man, there were like ten versions of the game in which you could happily take off boots of flying while over lava. 19:27:20 possibly more. 19:27:28 PleasingFungus: you could once deliberately walk into water/lava 19:27:37 well the key difference is that 19:27:40 taking off the boots would not kill you 19:28:48 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:48 The build was broken. (master - 7c202e2 #847 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42340314 19:28:48 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:29:06 a few years ago pratamawirya died on coc:7 by casting statue form and melding his +fly armour 19:29:23 er, i guess it would have been +lev 19:29:38 Oops 19:34:45 %git 036944b7 19:34:45 07greensnark02 * 0.4-a0-2545-g036944b: Replace deep water / lava prompts with MSG_UNTHINKING_ACT. 10(7 years ago, 1 file, 2+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=036944b75933 19:34:47 rip 19:36:30 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:47:23 %git :/remove ambrosia 19:47:24 Could not find commit :/remove ambrosia (git returned 128) 19:47:31 %git :/ambrosia 19:47:31 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-32-g24381c4: Don't give out royal jellies in Spider (ends). 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 13+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=24381c416777 19:47:35 eh 19:53:38 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 19:56:01 oh, right, you're probably replacing all those vaults 19:56:33 just replace it with "potion of poison ident:type" instead of ambrosia in the vaults that just hand out confusion freely or something 20:01:38 Hi all :) http://crawl.develz.org/source/infrastructure/dgamelaunch.conf.txt doesn't include any "define" block for hints mode. Is this on purpose? 20:04:16 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:54 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Client Quit] 20:10:30 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:13:18 -!- kipster has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:18:29 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:25:16 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:25:57 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:06 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 20:26:33 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:26:43 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:30:51 -!- vcordie has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:33:34 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:33:58 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:34:20 hmmm, wonder if it's worth trying out fulminant prism on liches 20:43:28 doy: v0v 20:43:38 doy: what was the problem with animations on webtiles again? 20:43:50 (not updating the full screen?) 20:45:38 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:37 Grunt: can you watch my game for a sec? 20:47:46 console,tiles doesn't matter 20:48:02 gammafunk: watching 20:48:03 gammafunk: oh 20:48:09 two of those 20:48:09 gammafunk: layout_gridlike strikes again.......... 20:48:19 !death layout_gridlike 20:48:19 Death has come for layout_gridlike... 20:49:29 hm 20:49:29 man this is a good zot 20:49:31 str8 dive 20:49:39 Grunt: iirc performance issues 20:49:50 also, I hope this doesn't break webtiles 20:49:56 since my local webtiles hangs forever and never loads 20:50:05 ? 20:50:09 define "this" 20:50:57 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:06 gammafunk: Zot sounds like 20:51:07 a real dive 20:51:17 New branch created: monsterdesc (1 commit) 20:51:17 03PleasingFungus02 07[monsterdesc] * 0.16-a0-2819-g1c4aa3d: Spell-item description simplification 10(8 hours ago, 14 files, 353+ 236-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c4aa3df5b29 20:51:22 ^ 20:51:29 !lm . br.enter=zot x=turns 20:51:30 23. [2014-11-28 02:46:33] [turn=70623] gammafunk the Tortoise (L24 DDHe of Elyvilon) entered the Realm of Zot on turn 70623. (Depths:5) 20:51:35 !lm . br.end x=turns 20:51:35 595. [2014-11-28 02:49:45] [turn=70765] gammafunk the Tortoise (L24 DDHe of Elyvilon) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 70765. (Zot:5) 20:51:40 140 turns 20:51:41 hm 20:51:44 I'll check in a bit, PleasingFungus 20:51:45 that's maybe my p.b. 20:52:30 Grunt: <3 20:52:51 I'm tinkering with something else in webtiles right now (namely seeing if I can get animations to update the entire screen properly) 20:53:06 a noble goal 20:53:33 I wonder if there are any particularly questionable monster spell descriptions (since they'll be more visible now) 20:53:36 webtiles deserves to see doy's hard work 20:53:39 theTower: loads 20:53:56 loads of questionable ones, anyway. particularly questionable? 20:53:57 anything specific, mister 20:54:14 I remember being peeved by ink cloud's description, but it wasn't *that* bad 20:54:47 fr ink clouds give acc malus to being in them or something so krakens having it isn't stupid 20:55:14 "increasing the strength of their blows and the power of their shots" 20:55:28 that's probably mine 20:55:49 hm. I wonder if it actually improves ranged ability 20:55:51 it might not 20:55:58 so to speak ho ho 20:56:44 repairee 20:56:58 that one is also very probably mine. 20:57:18 yep 20:57:19 really, I thought it was mister omega's 20:57:27 %git c952f4c72 20:57:27 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-105-gc952f4c: Remove the second person 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 35+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c952f4c7234d 20:57:48 hm 20:58:00 %git 927dcb7d 20:58:01 07Translators02 {galehar} * 0.13-a0-3045-g927dcb7: [Transifex] 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 18 files, 646+ 91-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=927dcb7de753 20:58:03 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:58:32 it was neither me nor omega's 20:58:34 %git a2d0eab8 20:58:34 07kilobyte02 * 0.13-a0-3032-ga2d0eab: Describe the rest of monster spells. 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 1 file, 75+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2d0eab8a230 20:58:37 ^ 20:59:44 ahhhhhhh. 21:00:25 ...control winds doesn't give an accuracy bonus for missiles anymore, does it 21:01:29 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01:39 it does not. 21:01:48 describing clouds as "airborne agents" is... peculiar 21:01:56 particulates :) 21:02:06 reasonable enough 21:02:09 (yes) 21:02:20 gammafunk: imo recharge your wand 21:02:33 yes, this is my first win 21:02:36 so thanks for the tips 21:02:37 congrats! :) 21:02:50 what's funny is you pinging me interrupted me recharging it 21:02:54 :p 21:02:58 huh, I wonder if anyone's ever used device recharging on a rod 21:03:31 given how much extra mp I have 21:03:35 theTower: no I was fishing for the ambrosia desc. to copy over to the potion. I haven't gotten to vaults yet 21:03:37 I'd say it's probably a good idea 21:03:51 oh 21:03:55 * theTower shrugs 21:03:59 ??rods 21:04:00 rods[1/1]: clouds, destruction, ignition, inaccuracy, lightning, shadows, striking, swarm 21:04:12 -!- Amnesthesia|Else is now known as Amnesthesia 21:04:21 maybe really high evo shadows or something 21:04:44 !learn e rods[1 s/$/ (in 0.16, replace striking with iron) 21:04:44 rods[1/1]: clouds, destruction, ignition, inaccuracy, lightning, shadows, striking, swarm (in 0.16, replace striking with iron) 21:04:52 ??iron rod 21:04:53 iron rod[1/2]: Blasts the area in front of you with metallic fragments. Their number and spread increase with evocation power. Range 6. New for 0.16. 21:04:55 ??iron rod[2 21:04:55 iron rod[2/2]: "At high spellpower, you may think of it as Super Scattershot." -- Grunt 21:05:04 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:05:26 as opposed to normal scattershot 21:06:01 but no rly fr: ambrosia tile 21:06:09 theTower: it's a doom reference :) 21:06:23 ebering: imo cobble together some programmer art 21:06:27 someone will replace it eventually 21:06:34 within the next ten years, minimum 21:06:52 huh, weave shadows does not actually describe where it gets things from 21:07:05 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:07:12 (though that might be awkward to make explicit) 21:08:45 also the default automatic summon cap description is somewhat inaccurate for shadow creatures / weave shadows / monstrous menagerie, since they can get bands as one "slot" 21:10:45 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:49 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:11:17 -!- foophykins has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:14 ...hmmmm, this is actually vaguely interesting as a spell due to the range, I wonder if it'd fit on pan lords 21:12:16 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:16 PleasingFungus: hm, spellbooks don't get a description in webtiles 21:12:24 er 21:12:25 and now they do??? 21:12:27 huh 21:12:31 ??? 21:12:48 that seems non-ideal 21:12:50 hm 21:12:50 %git monsterdesc 21:12:51 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2819-g1c4aa3d: Spell-item description simplification 10(9 hours ago, 14 files, 353+ 236-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c4aa3df5b29 21:12:55 PleasingFungus: let me check with a non-debug build <_< 21:12:58 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:13:49 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:14:58 gammafunk: rip 21:15:06 imo spectators can leave already 21:15:08 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:15 I was alt-tabbed 21:15:22 looks like you didn't die 21:15:23 pity 21:15:36 PleasingFungus: if I try reading a spellbook I don't get the description 21:15:39 well, I don't fly around spriggan air mages 21:15:39 PleasingFungus: if I check it in inventory I do 21:15:41 unlike some... 21:15:45 oh 21:15:46 hm 21:15:47 ??gammafunk[3 21:15:48 gammafunk[3/11]: greaterplayer: CeAM NaVM MfSk DDHe FoAK MiBe VSWz HOAs HuFE DESu 21:15:48 I forgot to check reading 21:15:54 I wonder 21:16:00 yeah oops that's broken in or out of webtiles 21:16:02 !learn edit gammafunk[3] s/DDHe // 21:16:03 gammafunk[3/11]: greaterplayer: CeAM NaVM MfSk FoAK MiBe VSWz HOAs HuFE DESu 21:16:05 thanks for catching that 21:16:12 how many people will die to not flying around tiamat and white dracs 21:16:17 Grunt: no other obvious brokenness in webtiles? 21:16:23 .gfnext 21:16:23 The RNG chooses: HuFE. 21:16:30 suspiciously easy 21:16:33 just for you 21:16:37 Not that I can see. 21:16:47 excellent 21:18:01 HuFE of ash 21:18:11 that is like 21:18:14 baby mode difficulty 21:18:16 so good for you I guess 21:18:37 any normal crawl is baby mode difficulty 21:18:40 hufe of xom 21:18:47 tbh that would be more fun I think 21:18:55 I should go and do a MfIE of Xom like I've been meaning to 21:18:56 <_< 21:18:58 I had planned mfsk of xom 21:19:04 but mfsk of ash 21:19:08 is that just redundant? 21:19:14 w o w 21:19:17 1learn add cheating 21:19:36 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:38 if I want difficult I'll go for score, but I don't want useless 21:20:00 just save mfsk 21:20:07 for wbacktrackicus 21:20:07 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:20:10 ! 21:20:14 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:51 wtrackbackicus 21:20:52 !learn set gammafunk[3] greaterplayer: CeAM^Ru NaVM^Chei MfSk^Xom FoAK^Lucy MiBe^Makky VSWz^Zin HOAs^Oka HuFE^Ash DESu^Jiyva 21:20:53 gammafunk[3/11]: greaterplayer: CeAM^Ru NaVM^Chei MfSk^Xom FoAK^Lucy MiBe^Makky VSWz^Zin HOAs^Oka HuFE^Ash DESu^Jiyva 21:21:15 did you get your nemelex win out of the way back in 0.14 21:21:24 !polytheist gammafunk 21:21:25 Unwon gods for gammafunk: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Jiyva, Lugonu, Makhleb, Okawaru, Qazlal, Ru, Xom, Zin 21:21:25 oh that was second win, optm, way back wen 21:21:27 *when 21:21:28 h m m m m m m m m m m m 21:21:29 Why Jiyva for DeSu 21:21:39 well need jiyva 21:21:39 desu sugoi 21:21:52 you know, surely zin shouldn't like vinestalkers 21:21:59 are they evil somehow? 21:22:01 aren't vinestalkers, like, horrific plant parasites on people 21:22:10 that doesn't seem very nice 21:22:16 hrm, I think they're themed as "sentian plan humanoids" 21:22:18 *plant 21:22:21 horrific magic plant parasites 21:22:32 and *sentient 21:22:41 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/crawl_manual.reST#l1739 21:22:43 It does describe them as vines taking over near-corpses 21:22:47 ジャイバーはすごいです。 21:22:47 you'd have to ask Basil or dck, but I don't think ....oh 21:22:49 <3 21:23:02 well that does sound like something Zin would hate 21:23:20 !hs * god=Zin 21:23:21 22818. 4tharraofdagon the Cutthroat (L27 VSFE of Zin), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-02-02 00:17:23, with 38430379 points after 37845 turns and 7:11:31. 21:23:24 haha 21:23:26 rip 21:23:26 rip 21:23:32 !hs * s=god x=name,score 21:23:33 Extra fields (x=name,sc) contain non-aggregates 21:23:35 imo for zin flavor ask 21:23:37 dpeg 21:23:37 somehow I knew it would be VS 21:23:41 hm 21:23:48 !hs * s=god 21:23:48 "clearly we want to kill high scores" 21:23:52 3790093 games for *: 2484344x, 317614x Trog, 161808x Okawaru, 96229x Lugonu, 91823x Vehumet, 83612x Xom, 76878x Sif Muna, 73512x Makhleb, 63057x Yredelemnul, 44387x The Shining One, 43083x Nemelex Xobeh, 38597x Kikubaaqudgha, 38531x Ashenzari, 36969x Beogh, 36003x Elyvilon, 35031x Cheibriados, 22818x Zin, 14266x Dithmenos, 11670x Fedhas, 9385x Qazlal, 3834x Jiyva, 3208x Gozag, 2449x Ru, 782x Igni ... 21:23:53 theTower: clearly! 21:23:55 "that is why we keep buffing extended" 21:23:56 oh 21:23:57 duh 21:24:02 yeah that won't work 21:24:04 !lg * s=god x=max(score),name 21:24:05 Extra fields (x=max(sc),name) contain non-aggregates 21:24:07 !lg * s=god x=max(score) 21:24:12 3790095 games for *: 2484345x [26707898], 317614x Trog [48431635], 161808x Okawaru [33345045], 96230x Lugonu [37150893], 91823x Vehumet [50940363], 83612x Xom [34725127], 76878x Sif Muna [65369553], 73512x Makhleb [65223715], 63057x Yredelemnul [23045061], 44387x The Shining One [45580760], 43083x Nemelex Xobeh [33162178], 38597x Kikubaaqudgha [27037143], 38531x Ashenzari [37880977], 36969x Beogh ... 21:24:22 !lg * s=god x=max(score) o=max(score) 21:24:27 3790095 games for *: 76878x Sif Muna [65369553], 73512x Makhleb [65223715], 35031x Cheibriados [55396974], 14266x Dithmenos [54334266], 91823x Vehumet [50940363], 317614x Trog [48431635], 36969x Beogh [47803653], 44387x The Shining One [45580760], 22818x Zin [38430379], 38531x Ashenzari [37880977], 96230x Lugonu [37150893], 83612x Xom [34725127], 161808x Okawaru [33345045], 3834x Jiyva [33336361],... 21:24:43 that hanon12 win still pretty good 21:24:47 xom better than okawaru 21:24:49 it is proven 21:24:57 agreed 21:25:02 that dith win was old dith though 21:25:03 pre-nerf 21:25:08 although Yermak says he can beat it 21:25:13 well with spen, not sure which god 21:25:28 !lg yermak 21:25:29 1874. Yermak the Unseen (L16 MiAs of Trog), slain by a wolf spider on Spider:2 on 2014-11-08 12:27:53, with 124718 points after 22227 turns and 3:30:33. 21:26:10 "A cross between ordinary stone gargoyles and living beings," 21:26:20 wow that's awkward 21:26:28 lil bit 21:26:31 *ordinary* ones, not extra fancy 21:26:42 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:44 gammafunk: the decorative ones, presumably 21:26:51 just say they're magical stone gargoyles 21:26:57 PleasingFungus: christmas-time gargoyles are not included 21:26:57 (possibly 'decorative' or 'ornamental' would be better...) 21:27:07 gammafunk: christmas gargoyles????!!??!? 21:27:08 uh, that seems 21:27:09 * Grunt hooks up make_name to a Lua function locally so he can generate some W names 21:27:32 wait a second 21:27:34 I'm kind of warming to rick james 21:27:34 I think with the W thing, you just want to go for some cool one or two-syllable sounds beginning with W 21:27:36 someone already did that!!!!!!! 21:27:36 wow 21:27:37 and add on stuff 21:27:43 Grunt: where? 21:27:48 theTower kind of said as much 21:28:01 !source l_crawl.cc:1128 21:28:01 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/l_crawl.cc;hb=HEAD#l1128 21:28:12 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:21 %git a4870dc2 21:28:21 07due02 {by} * 0.6.0-a0-1365-ga4870dc: A wrapper for itemname:make_name(). 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 27+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a4870dc24854 21:28:25 wow 21:28:26 i'll code a christmas tree species 21:28:26 5 years ago 21:28:26 rip 21:28:26 due by 21:28:33 yred, kiku 21:28:44 permanent ligification, starts with a ring of tele, win by teleing to the stairs 21:29:27 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:29:32 gozag is a pretty good example of it as well 21:29:40 qazlal 21:29:46 in that case I guess dpeg just made the rest seperate words 21:30:05 > crawl.mpr(crawl.make_name(false, -1, "W")) 21:30:06 Weuxkomabb 21:30:07 good, it works 21:30:24 that one's almost good 21:30:28 weux komabb 21:30:33 (hah, it got a Plog, rip) 21:30:40 wplog 21:30:47 One time I made up some W names for a different W god suggestion, brb 21:31:04 ??god list 21:31:04 gods[2/2]: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Lugonu, Makhleb, Nemelex Xobeh, Okawaru, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, Trog, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, Zin, the Shining One. 21:31:45 http://sprunge.us/GMUY - here's some of the names it comes up with 21:31:47 (Wyff) 21:32:02 GMUY 21:32:04 ...or tavern is not loading 21:32:09 Wogric 21:32:15 I cried when that dwarf died 21:32:19 rip 21:32:31 Woleshro 21:32:34 Wexisipa 21:32:37 Wivvumululo 21:32:37 I like "wexis" 21:32:38 wsomething 21:32:46 wuaday hahahaha 21:32:46 Basil: Withmengos 21:32:48 imo anagram whatever 21:33:01 in the style of withmengos 21:33:02 Grunt: that's all it can make? 21:33:09 gammafunk: I'll get it to generate some more :b 21:33:14 tyvm 21:33:16 ??dith 21:33:17 dithmenos[1/4]: God of shadows. Grants the player an {umbra} at * piety ala TSO's halo, {shadow step} at ** piety, bleed smoke at *** piety, a passive shadow mimicking your actions at **** piety, and shadow form at ***** piety. 21:33:23 Widug 21:33:41 wiusyshyclia is almost close to good 21:33:48 ??dith[4 21:33:48 dithmenos[4/4]: i don't have a cat anymore or it might have a better name right now 21:33:48 wargh :p 21:33:59 Weahesk 21:34:00 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:04 is that saying hesk are weak? 21:34:10 hesk are not weak, Grunt 21:34:12 we a hesk 21:34:16 !hs * HE-- 21:34:16 !stats hesk 21:34:17 188119. PurpleRed the Elven Blade (L27 HESk of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-06-23 09:48:31, with 37104810 points after 39325 turns and 15:43:48. 21:34:17 Starting stats for HESk: Str 11 Int 15 Dex 14. Stat gain: id/3 21:34:18 you a hesk 21:34:21 seems weak 21:34:25 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:36 to hesk with that 21:34:56 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:35:05 http://sprunge.us/RSZN 21:35:21 Woet Blirph 21:36:09 What about Wymbelteras, Washorn, Wroxsent, Whintavias, or Wagyants 21:37:46 I only like wymbelteras out of those 21:37:49 is this for a new w god 21:38:01 it's for wnobacktrackicus 21:39:19 wanderlust 21:39:26 I'm still dangerously fond of Wryhcdzheimz 21:39:37 possibly with a different final syllable 21:39:42 what's the short name of that one? 21:39:47 rick 21:39:48 wrhy? 21:39:59 'heimz 21:40:13 Wulndraste 21:40:23 (pronounced with a german W) 21:40:23 that one's not bad 21:40:25 Warwalrus 21:40:43 Grunt: tbh I like that the most so far 21:40:49 thank Basil 21:40:49 <_< 21:40:56 I would never do that 21:40:59 mm 21:41:32 !tell Lasty_ Wulndraste 21:41:32 Grunt: OK, I'll let lasty_ know. 21:41:53 PleasingFungus: btw imo 21:41:58 ? 21:42:02 move Plojy and Glorpo and Loopy to be Plog supplements 21:42:26 oh, like they're alts with Plog when it fails to make a name? 21:42:29 would that involve touching the random name code 21:42:31 probbbbbably not loopy 21:42:31 also what gammafunk said 21:42:32 Kloppo too 21:42:45 lopoy 21:42:46 plojy and glorpo and kloppo are fine but not loopy 21:42:56 I am tempted to declare the random name code off-limits to all devs 21:43:03 let it stand as a monument to man's hubris..... 21:43:05 to all what? 21:43:19 gammafunk: that's the idea, in any case :b 21:44:21 hm 21:44:22 I wonder 21:44:30 ? 21:45:02 huh 21:45:08 ? ? ? 21:45:15 so I'd been trying to figure out how the *current* code in trunk displays descriptions for book 21:45:16 when reading them 21:45:20 from the 'r' key 21:45:22 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:45:23 the answer is: it doesn't 21:45:27 . . . 21:45:28 er, *for books 21:45:33 it displays the title and shrugs 21:46:17 what, you didn't know that 21:46:19 -!- Lems has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:46:26 it's not something I do very often 21:48:01 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:49 hm 21:52:10 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2819-g0c166a1: Spell-item description simplification 10(9 hours ago, 14 files, 348+ 235-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0c166a16644f 21:53:04 simplification, thy name is 348+ 235- 21:53:18 it would be simplification 21:53:22 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:53:29 if the adding the monster spell search part was a seperate commit 21:53:54 what 21:55:14 *future support for monster spell search 21:55:22 o 21:55:24 eh 21:55:28 it would also probably be simplification if there weren't so many comments 21:55:36 if only...! 21:56:08 obviously seperate commit for comments 21:56:48 is theTower giving PleasingFungus a hard time about the *length* of comments? 21:56:56 let us look at his commit messages... 21:57:10 those don't actually go into the source 21:57:18 scott free 21:57:18 they go into the repo! 21:57:27 plenty of nonsense goes into the repo 21:57:37 like boneriders 21:57:56 or revert revert revert revert 21:58:01 they go into master; it's not like the source is truly seperate from the repo 21:58:14 so what's the plan with wizardry? 21:58:16 ??wizardry 21:58:16 wizardry[1/1]: Makes spellcasting less likely to fail. Comes in staff and ring form. Stacks, but not very well. Vehumet grants a similar boost to {destructive spells}, which stacks well with regular wizardry. 21:58:22 ??book of wizardry 21:58:22 book of wizardry[1/1]: Agony, Force Lance, Dispersal, Spellforged Servitor, Haste, Invisibility 21:58:24 there's a plan for it? 21:58:39 I made a comment about wanting to give it a better spell set 21:58:41 since 21:58:42 well 21:58:42 lightli seems to think crawl development always involves plans 21:58:50 !learn edit book_of_wizardry s/Dispersal, // 21:58:51 book of wizardry[1/1]: Agony, Force Lance, Spellforged Servitor, Haste, Invisibility 21:58:54 instead of random acts on vague desires 21:59:08 PleasingFungus: // Public Functions 21:59:21 some interesting source formatting was done previously, I guess 21:59:52 fr: wizards start with book of wizardry 22:00:07 both the background and the monster 22:00:24 do orc wizards get the book of orc wizardry 22:00:53 ok so I made a dumb icon 22:00:53 They do get Haste and Invisibility.... 22:01:02 rest in peace book of mountain dwarf wizardry 22:01:05 what is the git incantation I should use for this patch 22:01:23 (I'm guessing a format-patch with a base64 encoding of the binary is not correct) 22:01:27 no, but crazed wizards get the book of crazed wizardry 22:01:40 ebering: git format-patch will work fine 22:01:47 assuming your change is committed, of course 22:01:54 yes. 22:01:57 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:02:06 clearly the book needs to get back older, iconic wizard-like spells 22:02:10 like summon elemental 22:02:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 22:02:52 %git HEAD^{/Summon Elemental} 22:02:52 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-639-g1b0b24d: Borrow the Summon Elemental icon for Elemental Force. 10(7 months ago, 3 files, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b0b24d4209a 22:02:53 ebering: if you've done git pull and are up to date with the gitorious repo, git format-patch origin/master works 22:02:58 %git HEAD^{/Summon Elemental}^^{/Summon Elemental} 22:02:58 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-462-gf669498: Remove the Summon Elemental spell 10(7 months ago, 19 files, 53+ 243-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f6694988d399 22:03:06 (works is not part of the command) 22:03:34 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:04:10 lightning bolt and fireball were pretty iconic spells 22:04:15 they're like the first two spells people expect wizards to have!!!! 22:04:53 haha wow the original book was really summon elemental, teleport self, fireball, and haste 22:05:27 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:05:31 good adding dispersal to book of wizardry and then removing it, too 22:05:40 well, okay, not original original 22:05:40 -!- vcordie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:01 original original is detect creatures, summon elemental, magic mapping, teleport self, fireball, identify, haste 22:06:15 spells it has kept: haste 22:07:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:14 add summon dragon and rename it to book of lizardry 22:07:31 <3 22:07:45 theTower: an important request is coming in from the SA thread...! 22:07:47 " This is a bit of a weird request, maybe, but could altar vaults in the dungeon be changed so that there are more of the flavorful, cool vaults in place of the boring "altar in a small room" vaults? Like the Kiku altar that fills the fountains with blood; the Ash altar that reveals the Lair branches; the TSO vs Yred altars; the burning book Trog altar; etc. They just add so much more... 22:07:49 ...interesting flavor to the early floors and help characterize the gods. " 22:08:05 * theTower rolls his eyes 22:08:07 the only one there that's not 100% lua hackery is tso vs yred 22:08:18 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:08:28 lol theres exactly 1 vault in that list that i havent complained about at some point 22:08:33 the fedhas ones w/oklobs are pretty good 22:08:39 two of them repeatedly 22:08:39 minmay: which one? 22:08:41 (by that criteria) 22:08:43 the kiku one 22:08:43 is it also the tso vs yred one 22:08:45 heh 22:08:47 ah 22:08:49 the TSO vs Yred altar... 22:08:50 and that's probably because i didn't know it existed until now 22:08:58 would you like to complain about it now? 22:09:03 you fool 22:09:07 why are you asking for it 22:09:10 i dont know what it does other than fill fountains with blood so im not sure 22:09:11 it's funny 22:09:15 minmay: I think that's it 22:09:16 can you still drink from blood fountains 22:09:19 no 22:09:20 no 22:09:20 if so, im officially complaining about it 22:09:24 if not, its probably ok i guess 22:09:25 welp 22:09:26 ok i guess 22:09:31 <3 22:09:45 to be fair my complaint about the tso vs yred one was really just a complaint about a bug 22:10:03 specifically i saw some guy get shafted onto the angel's spot and get trapped in the glass 22:10:08 I presume you'd complain about the only future altar gimmick I could have planned 22:10:12 I think we probably fixed that 22:10:14 it sounds familiar 22:10:21 wait I think it was an escape hatch not a shaft 22:10:26 I know I fixed similar bugs 22:10:58 (make vehumet_trees just have the trees spontaneously combust when nearby, because then you paranoidly avoid all early trees until you can abuse the flames for something) 22:11:02 yeah we fixed that one 22:11:18 (the tornado one was better) 22:11:23 !lg * ckaux=tornado 22:11:24 67. Utis the Ducker (L7 KoAr of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by a twister (tornado) (summoned by the player character) on D:5 on 2014-11-25 21:17:21, with 637 points after 7718 turns and 0:18:01. 22:11:24 theTower: dang, it's like you're inside his head....... 22:11:26 hrm, I should do a sif gimmick vault 22:11:27 !lg * ckaux=tornado -2 22:11:28 66/67. hortensia the Chiller (L5 MfIE of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by a twister (tornado) (summoned by the player character) on D:4 on 2014-11-25 09:08:53, with 165 points after 3364 turns and 0:11:34. 22:11:31 !lg * ckaux=tornado -3 22:11:32 65/67. elbog the Grappler (L10 GrMo of Nemelex Xobeh), blasted by a twister (tornado) (summoned by the player character) on D:7 on 2014-11-18 09:55:53, with 3325 points after 8565 turns and 0:38:39. 22:11:41 !lg * ckaux=tornado !nemelex 22:11:41 55. melllvar the Sorcerer (L27 SpEE of Vehumet), blasted by a twister (tornado) (summoned by the player character) on Zig:20 on 2014-11-09 04:17:36, with 709559 points after 100274 turns and 10:55:53. 22:11:43 theTower: those flames probably wouldn't give xp so there isn't really any abuse possible there 22:11:50 !lg * ckaux=tornado ckiller!=twister 22:11:51 10. giganojonis the Covered (L4 MiFi), blasted by a diamond obelisk (tornado) on D:5 (nicolae_qazlal_eye_of_the_storm) on 2014-11-01 05:18:01, with 119 points after 1358 turns and 0:03:14. 22:11:53 ^ 22:11:59 that was pretty funny 22:12:01 !lg * ckaux=tornado s=ckiller 22:12:02 67 games for * (ckaux=tornado): 57x a twister, 9x a diamond obelisk, a player ghost 22:12:03 since if you can lure something there it's not a threat and if it's not a threat the only reason to kill it is to get the xp 22:12:12 hooray 22:12:14 (or some item i guess but you'd still want the xp) 22:12:22 time to do it in some months 22:12:34 !lg * ckaux=tornado ckiller!=twister -tv 22:12:35 10. giganojonis, XL4 MiFi, T:1358 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 22:12:52 (of course i also complain about non-player kills giving non-full/no xp in the first place) 22:13:00 minmay: careful explaining how the game works to devs, they don't play the game! 22:13:10 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:12 well N7 does 22:13:20 yeah and elliptic, those two 22:13:30 you forgot eronarn 22:13:35 hahaha 22:13:36 ah, before my time 22:13:38 oh wow what a beautiful result 22:13:48 !gameby eronarn 22:13:53 !gamesby eronarn 22:13:53 eronarn has played 6725 games, between 2007-09-01 00:13:43 and 2014-06-14 00:14:38, won 9 (0.1%), high score 8738694, total score 54770075, total turns 14598700, play-time/day 0:46:20, total time 79d+18:22:12. 22:13:57 heh 22:14:38 !gamesby eronarn s=god 22:14:38 eronarn has played 6725 games, between 2007-09-01 00:13:43 and 2014-06-14 00:14:38, won 9 (0.1%), high score 8738694, total score 54770075, total turns 14598700, play-time/day 0:46:20, total time 79d+18:22:12. 22:14:42 oh right 22:14:46 !lg eronarn s=god 22:14:47 6725 games for eronarn: 5985x, 99x Lugonu, 82x Xom, 78x Okawaru, 61x Makhleb, 56x Vehumet, 56x Sif Muna, 52x Kikubaaqudgha, 43x Ashenzari, 39x Yredelemnul, 34x Zin, 33x Nemelex Xobeh, 29x Elyvilon, 21x Fedhas, 14x Beogh, 12x Trog, 12x Gozag, 10x The Shining One, 6x Jiyva, 2x Cheibriados, Dithmenos 22:15:12 !lg eronarn s=god !boring 22:15:12 2636 games for eronarn (!boring): 1981x, 97x Lugonu, 77x Okawaru, 56x Vehumet, 55x Sif Muna, 52x Makhleb, 52x Kikubaaqudgha, 42x Ashenzari, 41x Xom, 34x Yredelemnul, 33x Nemelex Xobeh, 23x Elyvilon, 23x Zin, 21x Fedhas, 12x Beogh, 12x Gozag, 8x Trog, 8x The Shining One, 6x Jiyva, 2x Cheibriados, Dithmenos 22:15:26 it is a shame that thorn hunters are so close and yet so far away from plant breath dragons 22:15:43 i wonder how many of those 2k games were dg and how many were death before temple 22:15:48 did their briar patch thing every get ported over to a spell? 22:15:59 *ever 22:16:22 thorn hunter (16f) | Spd: 12 (swim: 120%) | HD: 15 | HP: 80-117 | AC/EV: 9/9 | Dam: 27, 23 | 03plant, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire | XP: 2120 | Sp: v.thorns (3d18) [11!AM, 06!sil], w.brambles [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 22:16:22 %??thorn hunter 22:16:25 yes 22:16:36 !lg eronarn god= !boring s=species 22:16:37 1981 games for eronarn (god= !boring): 596x Demonspawn, 233x Octopode, 159x Ghoul, 137x Draconian, 125x High Elf, 122x Spriggan, 99x Kenku, 86x Sludge Elf, 72x Mummy, 64x Naga, 55x Vampire, 33x Deep Dwarf, 27x Kobold, 25x Demigod, 23x Mountain Dwarf, 23x Troll, 21x Hill Orc, 18x Deep Elf, 12x Minotaur, 11x Merfolk, 10x Ogre, 10x Ogre-Mage, 6x Centaur, 4x Yellow Draconian, 2x Grey Draconian, 2x Mot... 22:16:46 chequers: not a lot of dg 22:16:57 was he the neil of his time? 22:16:59 who were they? just really bad, or something else 22:17:05 ?/eronarn 22:17:06 Matching terms (1): eronarn; entries (17): bat_form[2] | casmith789[5] | devsprint[7] | embarrassing_deaths[10] | eronarn[1] | eronarn[3] | eronarn[4] | eronarn[9] | eronarn[10] | eronarn[12] | eronarn[14] | hastur[3] | hilarious_deaths[36] | hybrid[5] | multirobin[2] | multirobin[3] | wensley[10] 22:17:13 -!- DrStalker has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:17:13 ??eronarn 22:17:13 eronarn[1/15]: Eronarn you are probably the least mature of all the devs, just fyi 22:17:27 eronarn was an idea engineer 22:17:33 I swear I read a quote almost just like that about elliptic 22:17:50 he got in patches for octopodes and a revamped zin recite, as an example of his silliness 22:17:51 -!- DrStalker_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:18:08 omg 22:18:09 ???eronarn[15 22:18:09 ?eronarn ~ eronarn[15/15]: Was Mitt Romney's web master http://www.flickr.com/photos/timotoole/8170410979/in/set-72157631970524352 22:18:15 ^ this is the best 22:18:16 how did I forget, yes of course I remember eronarn 22:18:45 yeah he wasn't before my time at all; didn't he not actually get commit access though? 22:18:53 as I said 22:18:59 which is thus the reference 22:19:42 I am rolling on the floor laughing, 7c 22:20:48 ??todo monsters 22:20:48 todo monsters[1/17]: sloths, cassowaries, moas, hoatzin, locusts, paper wasps, bullet ants, mantis shrimp 22:21:03 ??todo monsters[$ 22:21:04 todo monsters[17/17]: armadillo, axolotl, olm, alpacas + guard llamas, narwhal + four-legged land narwhal, platypus, stick bug, stink bug, coelacanths, pygmy elephant, hippo, rhino, pelican, nautilus, horseshoe crab, elephant shark, hammerhead shark 22:21:06 I forget at which point this stops being his stuff but they're mostly his 22:21:08 eronarn did LO iirc 22:21:16 oh right that too 22:21:21 rest in peace, lava orcs 22:21:28 I talked to him about them around the time they were removed 22:21:31 but couldn't make the heat buildup mechanic 22:21:35 work 22:21:47 op are great though, as is new zin recite 22:22:01 well, he had a lot of more... untenable ideas 22:22:09 buried in the logs 22:22:23 ??untenable ideas 22:22:23 I don't have a page labeled untenable_ideas in my learndb. 22:22:25 a dev with untenable ideas?! 22:22:35 I just remember "dragon for lair that breathes plants and tramples those plants underfoot" 22:22:37 gammafunk: remarkable 22:22:43 grunt would have that person removed immediately 22:22:57 untenable ideas, like a polymoth 22:23:06 that was bh, wasn't it? 22:23:07 that seems tenable 22:23:17 or ammunition brand spells, or a butterfly in abyss that summons twisters, or 22:23:31 rip supmoths 22:23:41 no that's wensley 22:24:04 wensley the supmoth 22:24:18 well theTower is bringing back sup 22:24:30 what a silly person 22:24:35 hm. control flow is tricky. there must be some way to express 'control options' as a list you can hurl around... 22:24:46 I think we already do this in some places 22:24:53 in other places we just do big dumb while (true) loops 22:24:54 PleasingFungus: can you be more specific? 22:24:55 theTower: it was a MOTH in ZOT that summoned twisters, tyvm 22:25:05 no it wasn't 22:25:07 rip carousel moth ;_; 22:25:19 PleasingFungus: like "z to cast spell" or a different sort of control 22:25:20 gammafunk: I'm trying to figure out how to make a spellbook/rod-style spell-examination UI for monsters 22:25:27 hmm 22:25:29 it was a moth in zot that made clouds of frivolous joviality around it that did the tornado effect 22:25:33 alist? 22:25:48 the butterfly in abyss that summoned twisters with a ring of rain and chaos branded attacks is completely different 22:25:48 PleasingFungus: as in, you see their spell list, you hit a key to read its details? 22:25:52 theTower: wait, did someone STEAL my idea just to turn it into a butterfly with a less hilarious effect 22:25:57 gammafunk: precisely, yes 22:26:26 also a ring of rMut 22:26:41 since no one in the world knows about ?/ (nor should they need to go through that, really, if we can give them a simpler UI) 22:27:11 PleasingFungus: well it's not that simple, sometimes I know a monster is around but not in LOS, and I want to look it up 22:27:20 but I agree it'd be nice if you're in xv to look up the spells 22:27:30 well, this would be helpful for that too, surely 22:27:30 an evokable that mashes monsters together, an orb spider that dances away from you forever if you have enough mr, 22:27:47 Happy Quotesgiving 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9270 by Ramc 22:27:47 Potion of Ambrosia 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9269 by ebering 22:27:53 even if you ?/mOgre Mage, you should still be able to look up their spells from that UI 22:27:58 happy quotesgiving to everybody 22:28:08 Suggested by PleasingFungus as a nice project 22:28:20 yes? 22:28:37 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:40 he forgot to replace !para with it 22:28:40 oh, interesting, he didn't replace POT_CONFUSION 22:28:43 or that 22:28:48 hasn't para been gone for a while 22:28:55 probably 22:29:04 %git 0b870a835f28 22:29:04 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1918-g0b870a8: Replace potions of paralysis with potions of cancellation. 10(5 months ago, 13 files, 17+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b870a835f28 22:29:07 !decay still exists, I know that much 22:29:17 also degen 22:29:25 one of those is hilariously rare 22:29:27 I forget which 22:29:27 man, I need to replace cancellation with antimagic 22:29:31 decay I think 22:29:35 decay is hilariously rare 22:29:39 equal in spawn to exp 22:29:42 it's about same freq...yeah 22:29:48 there was a great comment about it being something "rare and special" 22:29:52 no its equal (I read it earlier) 22:29:55 but I think someone removed it 22:30:00 (the comment) 22:30:15 well maybe someone could turn it into !lich or something 22:30:40 potion of decay and make a miasma cloud 22:30:40 !ddoor 22:31:01 Basil: bcadren idea?! 22:31:02 ebering: lol @ xom patch 4/5 22:31:05 where's potion of poison and poison spit 22:31:07 mm 22:31:12 PleasingFungus: its VERY IMPORTANT 22:31:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:31:21 there are other Edgar Berings on earth who contribute to projects and such 22:31:41 -!- DrStalker has quit [] 22:31:43 theTower: poison and pcloud 22:31:46 'fix that thing that geekosaur complained about' 22:31:50 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:32:01 basil: hmmm, maybe a bit much 22:32:11 "the flavour" 22:32:47 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:32:59 surely a potion of poison tastes terrible. 22:33:07 yes 22:33:09 I didn't remove !conf because I thought about making Ambrosia not go away when you weren't confused, just stop regenerating 22:33:22 but then that seemed dumb 22:33:34 (so you could drink !conf and re-start the regen) 22:33:38 the whole point of !ambrosia is to make a badpotion just a questionablepotion!! 22:33:39 what do you mean by not go away? 22:33:54 if it stops regenerating, it has gone away? 22:34:01 as in you still have Ambrosia status but its doing nothing until you're confused again 22:34:06 (this was a bad idea) 22:34:12 well yeah you'd just remove the status 22:34:15 when you cure confusion 22:34:19 no need to retain the status 22:34:22 thats what the patch submitted does 22:34:35 ok, so you can replace confusion with ambrosia 22:34:44 ok 22:34:52 03ebering02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-2820-g91abeda: fix my name in the credits 10(10 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=91abeda927cf 22:35:26 erm 22:35:46 there's like save-compat things when removing an item 22:36:02 where should I read that magic? 22:36:05 %git 0b870a835f28 22:36:05 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1918-g0b870a8: Replace potions of paralysis with potions of cancellation. 10(5 months ago, 13 files, 17+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b870a835f28 22:36:06 you could just replace the subtype 22:36:07 it's simpler 22:36:10 the trick is that if you just replace the enum it 22:36:11 since you can just replace it 22:36:12 yes that 22:36:13 yeah 22:36:23 cool I'll do that 22:36:26 hm 22:36:32 I wonder if anything uses POT_CONFUSION in a really dumb way 22:36:34 but then there is work for vaults 22:36:42 update: stuff does 22:36:44 okay 22:36:46 so you can't actually do that 22:36:58 the orc entrance vault with bobby has !conf 22:36:59 oh yea I remember seeing that 22:37:00 fr merge !cancellation & !curing 22:37:01 oh right, beams or something 22:37:12 beams and miscasts 22:37:20 yeah so then you'd have to add a new one, and yeah you'd need save compat code 22:37:22 potion_effect is a hilariously dumb function. 22:37:27 to turns !confusion into !ambrosia 22:37:37 also xom I think 22:37:37 *turn 22:37:45 no xom does not 22:37:49 wait not directly 22:37:54 xom grants potions 22:37:56 xom picks a potion from those available 22:38:03 yes 22:38:05 but doesn't hardocde potion_effect(POT_CONFUSION 22:38:14 as I said a bit back, I would just make potions of confusion in vaults potions of poison 22:38:20 (important commentary.) 22:38:46 that's kind of gross 22:38:51 also, I remember potion card used to directly access the confusion potion but doesn't still 22:39:11 should probably just fix beam and miscast 22:39:16 to confuse correctly 22:39:42 since pot_conf doesn't use the power field 22:40:40 augh no 22:40:51 beam.cc uses potion_effect for all of its statuses 22:40:58 1learn add source 22:42:13 ebering: we generally linewrap to 80 characters per line 22:42:18 -!- vimpulse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:25 PleasingFungus: I thought I did that 22:42:33 you did not 22:42:36 oops 22:42:42 ??oops 22:42:42 pleasingfungus[1/15]: oops 22:42:45 :) 22:42:56 -!- tatara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:43:16 also, you specified a function as "static int _god_status_colour(int)", which I don't like - parameters should probably be named everywhere they're appeared, unless they're unused 22:43:21 also, you mispelled "penance" 22:44:12 oh, actually 22:44:20 sorry, the non-linewrapped code was there already 22:44:27 right next to your changes but not part of them 22:44:35 that's my bad. 22:46:23 rip. 22:46:40 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:48:00 well I still get rekt on the spellcheck count 22:48:44 it bugs me pretty hardcore that POT_CONFUSION is used in weird places 22:49:25 a patch to clean that up would be well taken, I am sure :) 22:49:42 ebering: ya it's bad 22:49:43 and ya 22:49:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:49:45 what grunt said 22:49:55 imo clean up beam.cc as your next project 22:49:57 (don't do it) 22:50:02 !send beam.cc PleasingFungus 22:50:02 Sending PleasingFungus to beam.cc. 22:50:40 cleaning up beam.cc would be a good way to start and finish all crawl projects forever 22:51:37 -!- Dynast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:52:47 so xom is stimulated when you get a potion effect from a beam 22:53:06 03ebering02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-2821-gf29fc7b: Add a piety meter for Xom 10(4 weeks ago, 5 files, 101+ 63-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f29fc7bb49a0 22:53:10 there is an argument that the xom 'stimulation' mechanic should not be 22:53:39 %git a6e153fd 22:53:39 07pauldubois02 * 0.4-a0-1077-ga6e153f: 1903543: % screen improvements * Show inscriptions. * Weapon enchantments (eg +1,+1) compressed like they are on the main screen. * Remove the slot name ("Ring: ") so there's more room for the item text. 10(7 years ago, 1 file, 85+ 65-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6e153fdce02 22:54:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:56:42 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:58:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2822-gb1d3efb: Remove 6-year-old commented code 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1d3efbb7a26 22:58:41 wow rip 23:00:36 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:03:10 where's heaven 23:03:27 ? 23:03:32 o 23:03:39 you hit < on the hell entrance 23:04:02 ha 23:04:50 lessens (L24 TeCK) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(pos()) || is_tracer && can_affect_wall(grd(pos())) || affects_nothing) in 'beam.cc' at line 1297 failed. (Depths:5) 23:04:56 oops 23:05:00 -!- Harkenn has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:04 oops? 23:05:06 oops?? 23:05:06 oops 23:05:06 I guess rebuilding cszo would be a good thing, but that's going to happen in an hour anyway 23:05:13 :) 23:05:19 another crash? 23:05:24 I guess I should unignore the bots again.... 23:05:28 https://crawl.project357.org/watch/Fiveotanaka arena of blood bug in regular crawl again 23:05:55 loading very slowly 23:05:56 chequers: rip 23:06:38 ya 23:06:40 |amethyst: did the CAO scoring get stuck again? 23:07:13 -!- Toxoplasma has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:07:37 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07:53 hm it doesn't show my latest win 23:08:19 what is going on 23:08:33 can you dump zxc232's save? 23:08:41 sec 23:08:42 he doesn't know how to ssh in and oh my god that magenta colour 23:08:44 my eyes 23:08:47 fiveo's save 23:08:49 not mine 23:08:55 my eyes are literally watering just looking at it 23:08:58 oh sorry. 23:09:03 anyway for the love of god someone fix that 23:09:09 fun errors dat/des/portals/bailey.des:368: Couldn't fin 23:09:09 d a map for bailey_axe 23:09:18 that magenta colour seems OK to me 23:09:21 what's up with your eyes? =p 23:09:26 it's so bright!!!! 23:09:31 though I do think the orange looks better 23:10:25 http://crawl.project357.org/static/Fiveotanaka.cs 23:10:45 ty :) 23:11:17 PleasingFungus: give me a hex value for a more pleasing zot purple 23:11:20 and I can fix it 23:11:28 well a css color value 23:11:30 specifically 23:11:31 what's the current colour? 23:11:36 values 23:11:48 are you using chrome? 23:11:51 you can just look in dev tools 23:11:54 let me find it 23:11:55 I guess I could 23:12:13 oh haha it's literally F0F? 23:12:16 that's such a programmer colour 23:12:41 lemme fuck around with a colour wheel for a sec 23:12:53 chequers: that error usually means you need to blow away your des folder and reinstall/copy it 23:13:05 oh, you've seen it before? 23:13:12 if you haven't seen that before 23:13:14 yea 23:13:15 PleasingFungus: yeah it's actually color: magenta in css, so it's a built-in colour 23:13:30 CBRO install scrips take care of it automatically 23:13:45 the strange part is every build gets installed to a brand new directory 23:13:53 on DBRO since I do it semi-automatically I sometimes have to fix it myself 23:13:57 oh 23:13:59 hm 23:14:09 gammafunk: A3F or B4F, something in that range 23:14:20 hm 23:14:23 I think I prefer B4F 23:14:29 uh, I need like 23:14:37 quick fix would be to checkout the commit you got installed. then delete old des and copy over new 23:14:41 oh, a css builtin? 23:14:45 can't you just use that...? 23:14:48 idk let me poke around 23:15:00 PleasingFungus: no it doesn't need to be built in but 23:15:05 #000000 23:15:08 is the format 23:15:12 oh 23:15:14 even better 23:15:30 FF00FF is the current one 23:15:32 #A138FF 23:15:44 could round that to A0 if you prefer 23:15:56 least significant bit 23:16:13 oh that is better 23:16:32 chequers: actually that error is slightly different that the usual one. usually it's complaining about a missing monster (one that has been removed) 23:16:56 yeah, I'm poking around http://colours.neilorangepeel.com/category/purple/ now to see if there's any good name that's closer 23:16:59 I got that error you posted when trying to run mapstat without first playing the game 23:16:59 not that it matters really 23:17:10 johnstein: yeah. the DES is identical to the source repo 23:17:31 starting the game locally updated the des directory and other magical things 23:17:41 then mapstat would work and get past that error 23:17:46 hmm 23:17:56 !nick hangedman 23:17:56 No nick mapping for hangedman. 23:18:06 oh right 23:18:10 !nick tenofswords 23:18:10 No nick mapping for tenofswords. 23:18:13 gah 23:18:17 get rekd 23:18:25 can't say I'm surprised 23:18:56 man webtiles-changes needs a merge of master 23:19:07 you could alternately use blueviolet, though I think it's a bit dark 23:19:25 I think the lsb rounded one is good 23:19:58 what's ./lua-wiz/damtally.lua ? 23:20:12 heh 23:20:15 %git webtiles-changes 23:20:15 07edlothiol02 * 0.15-a0-2385-g7a74ae6: Add chequers to the credits. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a74ae6aad81 23:20:24 that should have gone in trunk... 23:20:44 not a whole lot of point in giving him credit in the branch 23:20:51 well, i have no commits of note in trunk 23:21:04 chequers: I don't think we need to do credit that way 23:21:09 and i don't care about credits.txt when version control has my name on it anyway 23:21:28 old CVS practice :P 23:21:31 well that's just you saying you don't want to be in CREDITS.txt 23:21:36 which is also fine 23:21:45 but adding credit in the branch doesn't make much sense 23:21:52 -!- zencephalon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:22:09 1nck hrangedmn tnnofswords greatoreyes tettower 23:22:26 i'm happy to be in there, don't get me wrong 23:22:27 tettower 23:22:27 that's not even half your nicks! 23:22:35 gammafunk: I'd also suggest changing centuryplayers to something like #D92C2B 23:22:38 i expect the adulation from crawl players to begin any day 23:22:45 hm 23:22:48 maybe i should just do this myself 23:22:56 PleasingFungus: well I was about to change it 23:23:08 PleasingFungus: I'll commit that purple one and this other thing 23:23:12 one sec 23:23:14 but feel free to change others 23:23:18 purple? 23:23:21 I'm trying to decide if I want to brighten up green very slightly 23:23:23 (green?) 23:23:24 uh, goodplayers 23:23:26 green. purple. 23:23:29 oh god 23:23:53 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2822-gb1d3efb (34) 23:23:59 -!- MurderMachine has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:24:16 !lg * kmap~~johnstein* 23:24:17 No games for * (kmap~~johnstein*). 23:24:24 !lg * map~~johnstein 23:24:25 No games for * (map~~johnstein). 23:24:27 rip 23:24:33 one day 23:24:37 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:24:41 I just need to make more maps I guess 23:24:46 gammafunk: greenyellow might be better than green. only you can decide, though 23:25:00 I'll try it in chrome 23:25:08 you can inspect the element and change the value 23:25:09 pre handy 23:25:12 I'm doing that 23:25:14 in firefox 23:25:17 yeah 23:25:18 it even has a cool transition animation 23:25:21 ! 23:25:28 fades from one to the other 23:25:30 that's lame and nerdy, but cool 23:25:34 <- 23:25:42 please stop describing me... 23:25:54 !learn add PleasingFungus lame and nerdy, but cool 23:25:55 pleasingfungus[16/16]: lame and nerdy, but cool 23:26:00 muhahahahahahaha 23:26:05 treachery! 23:26:20 PleasingFungus: yeah that's bad because greaterplayer is yellow 23:26:29 I know but they're still pretty distinct 23:26:30 alternately 23:26:31 I guess it'd help if I made an example of them all 23:27:06 i wonder if the des files in the webtiles directory are interfering 23:27:28 that's about my only idea 23:28:45 the centuryplayer tweak looks good 23:29:24 hm. how's #37C11C suit you 23:29:28 1nck atower ... daedalus fishbowl rainfall 23:29:29 for goodplayers 23:30:15 PleasingFungus: yeah I don't think yellow and greenyellow are distinct enough; they are distince but my eyes are straining to see if they're different 23:30:23 spoiler: I'm a hell sentinel irl 23:30:28 ok 23:30:34 so how about 37C11C 23:31:11 yeah that's nice 23:31:39 I love colour wheels. 23:31:50 fr colour whales 23:31:50 what about colour wheals 23:33:08 display: hidden; 23:33:51 03gammafunk02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2386-g385ad85: Colour tweaks for player titles (PleasingFungus) 10(74 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=385ad857633f 23:33:54 so from a style point of view 23:34:02 colour whales2 23:34:24 !gamesby tenofswords 23:34:25 No games for tenofswords. 23:34:29 things that are not potions want potion effects. If I'm refactoring potion_effect should I take each case in a switch into its own function, or just those that I want to expose? 23:34:30 !gamesby theTower 23:34:30 No games for theTower. 23:34:33 if cpo breaks again, please make sure someone pokes me around the time it does, and if the affected person closes their tab the game should be terminated 23:34:38 * chequers runs off for the day 23:35:13 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:35:22 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:35:32 ebering: well, a switch/case statement isn't the right control flow tool in any case - you probably want a map between effect types and the corresponding functions 23:35:50 ebering: that said, if you aren't planning such extensive renovations 23:36:02 pulling everything into static functions is perfectly reasonable 23:36:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:36:40 mok 23:40:28 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 23:41:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:33 -!- Amnesthesia is now known as Amnesthesia|Else 23:49:16 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:49:41 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]