00:00:34 I still cannot get the image of a tengu reaver hiding his face behind a battleaxe out of my mind 00:01:51 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:02:39 shygu 00:03:47 hm 00:03:52 ??objstat[2 00:03:53 objstat[2/3]: Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing 00:04:45 can someone who can actually view these files take a look and tell me what the numbers for Tomb look like these days? 00:04:56 or remind me how to run it myself; I forget 00:05:27 -!- ekix has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:07:45 <|amethyst> build with fulldebug, then crawl -objstat Tomb 00:08:58 why are you curious about tomb, anyway 00:09:18 03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-2703-g1e203fe: Insubstantial wisps tweaks: less blink/ac/ev, more hp/hd, static discharge 10(5 minutes ago, 5 files, 19+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e203fe68b58 00:09:21 <|amethyst> then load the resulting objstat_Tomb.txt into a spreadsheet program (with tab as delimiter, if it asks) 00:10:12 theTower: want to win an argument on the internet 00:10:13 obviously 00:10:34 a friendly one, though? 00:12:02 friendliness...? 00:13:03 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2702-gfff482a (34) 00:13:28 was that in time? 00:14:09 tengu tiles can definitely use some work 00:14:09 roctavian: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:14:40 i have still two more birds to make first 00:14:42 can we have them actually approach tengu or are we stuck with renamed kenku 00:15:02 on average, 0.01 trapdoor spiders spawn in tomb. 00:15:18 sounds about right 00:15:28 does elven brick really use white 00:15:29 if only they were asps in jars 00:15:29 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:15:33 !messages 00:15:34 (1/1) Grunt said (2h 35m 9s ago): I'm watching the snake floor tiles in action and they are glorious 00:15:39 did you like the stones 00:15:52 they look good 00:16:01 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:17:52 ill have to see them in context 00:17:59 i'll* 00:18:24 they're slightly misordered 00:18:55 are the new snake tiles the floor tiles that look like snakes? 00:19:20 idk if they look like snakes much but yes 00:19:32 I like them! 00:19:36 thanks 00:20:08 reading the angband changelog, they mention that "drunk" was changed to "quaffed" in one place "for pedants". 00:20:44 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:45 |amethyst: it worked, btw. thanks! 00:20:47 drunk is a legit past tense of drink 00:21:03 oh right, i can't build crawl any more 00:21:06 hm 00:21:07 hm 00:21:08 rip 00:21:09 someone should fix that 00:21:40 technically then you can replace the existing stone walls in walls.png 00:21:47 but that takes time and shit 00:22:02 <|amethyst> it wasn't that "drunk" was wrong there 00:22:50 <|amethyst> it's that the first clause in "When drunk, it restores your experience" could be interpreted as "when you are drunk" 00:23:14 <|amethyst> (it would be a dangling participle, but those happen) 00:23:22 when not drunk it instead makes you drunk 00:24:36 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:24:38 -!- Bloaxor is now known as Bloax 00:24:43 buhbyes 00:24:49 Bloaxor: well i don't actually even have a working version of crawl, period 00:24:57 since it gets halfway built and -then- breaks 00:25:09 great 00:25:24 also can't you get a prebuilt one 00:25:43 well yeah but what's the fun in that 00:25:59 I honestly don't remember if you can get drunk in angband 00:26:00 also 00:26:05 -!- ruwin has quit [] 00:26:06 gotta run 00:26:14 |amethyst, Grunt, do you guys remember what the current status is on windows builds? 00:26:17 (wlel you could try it out instead of not being able to try it out) 00:26:20 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 00:26:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think gammafunk managed to get one working with an updated gcc and maybe a local patch to one of the directdraw headers? 00:27:21 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 00:27:33 hm 00:27:39 so we still expect that the one we ship isn't working 00:28:00 I wonder how heavy-handed it'd be to replace all those vault potions of confusion with potions of poison after doing the ambrosia thing 00:28:29 do not drink black mamba venom and drive. 00:30:03 theTower: You shotgun the potion of haste. 00:31:47 looks like i'm getting a bunch of errors in directsound 00:31:54 for some reason? 00:33:22 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 00:34:34 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: what's the error? 00:34:45 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:39:05 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:40:57 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:57 The build was broken. (master - 3f71688 #787 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42034223 00:40:57 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:43:07 "single-leve" 00:43:09 I'm so good at typing 00:43:34 oh, heh, it's that monster swap crash 00:44:00 <|amethyst> cancelled builds #788-792 00:44:14 <|amethyst> doh 00:44:30 <|amethyst> uncancelled #790, that was a branch 00:45:52 ??doh 00:45:53 |amethyst[1/16]: <|amethyst> doh 00:48:23 |amethyst: there are lots, but: 00:48:32 ddraw.h: No such file or directory. 00:48:48 is the first one 00:49:22 in src/audioi/directsound/directx.h:96:19 00:49:26 audio* 00:49:32 <|amethyst> hm 00:49:48 <|amethyst> mingw is supposed to come with those 00:50:36 <|amethyst> but you can supposedly get them from http://www.libsdl.org/extras/win32/common/directx-devel.tar.gz 00:51:46 <|amethyst> If there's an error about undefined things in dvec.h, see: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/24377181/sdl-installation-failure-on-windows-with-mingw-dvec-h-error 00:52:05 -!- zauren has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 00:56:14 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 00:59:10 Small chunkless bug: If you 'c' as a vampire, sometimes you chop inedible corpses instead of bottling edible corpses. 01:01:44 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:03:29 -!- THICK_BOY_REAGAN has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:04:58 that is working as intended. 01:05:15 oh, you mean, if they're on the same tile? 01:05:59 <|amethyst> yeah, I got it to do the same 01:07:47 not ideal 01:07:54 I will take a look at it tomorrow. 01:08:02 <|amethyst> my thought was to make _should_butcher respect bottle_blood again 01:08:17 <|amethyst> but to call it again with bottle_blood = false if that doesn't work 01:08:28 <|amethyst> two loops I guess 01:08:29 <|amethyst> hm 01:09:53 <|amethyst> oh, I guess the badness check can do it 01:09:58 yeah 01:10:51 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:12:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141123030204]] 01:14:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:19:18 -!- kipster has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:34 -!- Bozdo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:21:47 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:21:56 -!- halberd_ is now known as halberd 01:22:29 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 01:29:05 -!- bza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29:54 -!- inspector071 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:34:40 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:32 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:51 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:51 The build was fixed. (singularity - fe7aa9d #790 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42035911 01:35:51 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:37:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38:46 -!- roctavian has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:38:49 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:01 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39:21 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:29 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:40:12 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus oh... butchering multiple corpses takes 1 turn each if confirm_butcher = never, but 1 turn total otherwise 01:40:12 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 01:40:41 -!- bleak` is now known as bleak 01:43:07 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:09 |amethyst: okay, it went a bit further xD 01:44:24 now it's complaining about SDL_syshaptoc.c 01:44:28 haptic* 01:49:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:51:36 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:56:56 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:59:46 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:01:27 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:02:23 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 02:06:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2704-g8c4d18a: Try to bottle before chopping when confirm_butcher == never. 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c4d18a30b92 02:06:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2705-g70f4b53: Clarify that vampires can butcher in failure/prompt messages. 10(47 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=70f4b53a2dfe 02:06:25 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2706-g53b50a0: Sort butcher prompt by corpse quality. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 44+ 39-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=53b50a070e47 02:09:35 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: hm... not sure there :/ 02:10:13 it's okay xD 02:10:25 i'm sure at some point somebody'll fix it 02:10:43 otherwise 0.16 is going to be a strange release 02:19:55 ??ash[skill boost 02:19:55 ashenzari[1/5]: God of divinations, knowledge, and curses. Likes it when you wear cursed gear while exploring the world. Grants passive monster/item detection, item identification (see [2]), mapping (like DD), sInv & Clarity (3*), {ash skill boost}, and active scrying (4*). Allows you to {reskill}. 02:20:04 ??ash[2 02:20:04 ashenzari[2/5]: At 0* shows the curse status of all items, then later fully identifies stuff that uses the same slots you have cursed; body armour at 1*, everything else at 2*. 02:20:07 -!- keszocze has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:23:06 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2706-g53b50a0 (34) 02:28:47 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:31:46 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:33:31 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:34:28 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:36:47 -!- Guest1236 is now known as Sombra 02:37:14 -!- Pyrol has quit [Client Quit] 02:39:18 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:44:06 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:18 -!- Kramell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:45:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2707-g5e6b6c3: Add a quote for starcursed masses. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e6b6c3c28cb 02:46:46 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:49:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:52:09 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:57:05 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:57:51 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:58:35 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:38 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:40 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:00:42 -!- Kramin is now known as Kramin2 03:00:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Client Quit] 03:03:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:52 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:11 -!- Kramin2 is now known as Kramin 03:14:17 -!- Kramin is now known as Kramin2 03:15:23 -!- Manslay| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:23 -!- sooheon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:52 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:18:58 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:20:27 -!- Kramin2 is now known as Kramin 03:21:07 -!- Kramin is now known as Kramin2 03:21:44 -!- Kramin2 is now known as Kramin 03:24:46 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:24:57 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:27:57 -!- Manslay| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:30:56 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:32:27 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:33:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:35:18 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:48:36 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:56:11 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:02:18 -!- muravey has quit [Quit: Be back later ...] 04:02:45 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 04:03:06 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:03:06 The build was broken. 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Use !messages to read it. 10:41:43 !messages 10:41:44 (1/1) ChrisOelmueller said (9h 46m 10s ago): * <3> Jul 30 00 JDJ in_a_shop uses shoppy instead of i when calling shop_set_id. 10:42:02 shoppy! 10:42:16 lil' shop 10:42:20 General Purpose Shop Variable 10:42:36 actually, i think it's more likely Shop Purple Looping Variable 10:42:47 s/le/ose 10:44:58 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:45:00 that remins me, there's a todo on mantis to merge the remote shopping interface (on ctrl-f) and the local one (on >) 10:47:13 -!- muravey has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:53:04 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:58:33 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:58 Screen STILL doesn't draw correctly on firefox 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9258 by Tolias 11:10:58 |amethyst: I think 70f4b53 is wrong 11:10:58 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:11:49 |amethyst: correction: on further examination, I am wrong. 11:11:58 1learn add 11:12:32 PleasingFungus: sombra has pointed out that with embrace replacing twisted res, kiku no longer guarantees an ally spell 11:12:39 wheals: ok. 11:12:45 more variety :) 11:12:50 |amethyst: also, imo, wheals is the one who you should be talking to about butcher times 11:13:03 well then, imo, every spell should just be random 11:13:37 ~ 11:13:42 wheals: did you see the butchering thing 11:13:43 The new spell sounds good but I don't know what's wrong with twisted res 11:13:53 PleasingFungus: yeah 11:14:46 It makes Kiku much less reliable to not be guaranteed an animate spell 11:15:08 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:15:10 do we need to set you.time_taken? 11:17:04 in fact, where is that set for butchering? 11:20:37 !source spl-book.cc 11:20:37 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc;hb=HEAD 11:21:35 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:22:19 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:22 -!- bitsailor has quit [Changing host] 11:22:22 -!- bitsailor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:29 huh, sublim is guaranteed unless you can't use it at all? 11:22:31 that's a little weird 11:22:46 oh, I see 11:23:13 anyway. could do something like 11:23:28 hey guys, been out ofthe scene for a while… i just noticed that the crawl wiki is no longer listed on the dcss home page… what happened to it? 11:23:49 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2707-g5e6b6c3 (34) 11:23:54 bitsailor: it was never official and has enormous problems with accuracy. 11:23:55 bitsailor: it is considered as too unreliable 11:24:55 chosen_spells[0] = SPELL_ANIMATE_DEAD; chosen_spells[1] = (you.species != SP_FELID && one_chance_in(3)) ? SPELL_EXCRUCIATING_WOUNDS : random_choose(SPELL_AGONY, SPELL_BONE_ARMOUR); 11:25:08 v0v 11:25:11 ah, thanks. I used to find the player guides on it quite useful, but it did take a while for the information to be updated. thx 11:26:11 PleasingFungus, i was thinking of swapping animate dead and b. drain 11:26:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:40 wheals: how would that help . . . ? 11:26:45 oh, I see 11:27:01 sure, that'd work 11:27:05 actually, making the first coinflip() ? b.drain : agony 11:27:08 ??bolt of draining 11:27:08 bolt of draining[1/1]: L5 conj/necro spell in the {book of Death}. 11:27:15 -!- bitsailor has quit [Quit: bitsailor] 11:27:18 then the second coinflip() || felid ? b. armour : exc. wounds 11:27:22 -!- muravey has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:31 then the third animated dead/simulacrum/dchan 11:27:49 sure. 11:28:02 so you'd have offense spell, "hybrid" spell, ally spell 11:28:40 heh, i like the uppercase in the functon name 11:31:21 Is it out of the question for Twisted Resurrection to stay as a Kiku only spell? 11:31:30 I think that's the only time most people use it unless they find an early book 11:31:58 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:34:52 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:34:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:35:24 Sombra: the worst loss is about the flavour, imo. But what can you do? :( 11:35:39 those devs won't let flava get in the way of progress!!! 11:35:44 I dunno, I think it's a good spell. 11:35:49 It's just unloved 11:36:04 It starts running out of steam sometime around lair branch ends though. 11:36:24 Btw, what would it take to make Lugonu more accessible to non-AK? 11:36:46 there are gods for babysitting permanent allies. does kiku need to be one of those gods? 11:36:46 Sombra: harder Abyss 11:37:38 Sombra: I have an idea to make banishment not always send players to Abyss:1. That is a Lugonu boost (although that's also not my major motivation :) 11:37:59 Is there a non-flavour reason that Lugonu altars can't be guaranteed in D like other gods? 11:38:19 I really like Lugonu, but you're almost forced to play AK to worship her 11:39:02 same with jiyva, I want to try jiyva out but don't like waiting / using other god meanwhile 11:39:10 -!- Aule_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:39:14 and if I have to enter slime, well forget it 11:39:54 Yeah, ditto Jiyva... I'd at least like to see the slime altar guaranteed in Lair, that's already a big sacrifice 11:40:05 to go without a god through most of Lair 11:40:07 no, J and L will not become temple gods :) 11:40:30 why though? 11:41:18 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:48:10 J: balance (the god has never been intended as an early god; if you luck out and get her, it's okay, but I don't think we want to change Jiyva based on early game). L: the god is an emergency option for unlucky banishment victims _and_ and a starting god already. On top of that, there is also a bunch of flavour behind this (J is about to die, L is not on speaking terms with the other gods). And then: I th 11:48:16 ink it is really cool if a new player can first ... 11:48:19 ... play around with the major gods, and then experience the minor gods later on. (Note that if Crawl ever goes to 27 gods, I don't think they should be all in the temple. It is quite full already now. So I'd rather think about making/moving gods for/to non-Temple.) 11:48:29 -!- y2s82 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:52:21 For Lugonu, you can preserve flavour by having a guaranteed abyss portal in D: with an exit in the first area a la AK start. 11:52:37 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52:41 With Jiyva, I'd settle for the Lair altar being guaranteed if balance is a problem. 11:53:04 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:53:07 Neither has to be in the temple to be more accessible. 11:54:19 What I like (and mentioned sometimes) would be a guaranteed J altar on Slime:1-3 or so. That way, you can get your slime god before the branch end. However, powers higher than me have discarded the idea (for a reason), and I am fine with that. But in particular, the Lair altar idea won't fly :) 11:55:28 Fair enough, I think this relegates Jiyva to being a late-game switch god though. 11:55:47 dpeg: thanks for the explanation 11:56:14 Even were Jiyva guaranteed in Lair, it would be a massive gamble to skip temple gods for Jiyva. 11:58:48 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 12:00:29 getting jiyva early is also a good way of missing massive amounts of exp and loot 12:01:56 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:04:16 s/exp and loot/garbage/ 12:04:27 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09:51 flaying with ignite blood is pretty cool, flame clouds appear all over the place 12:10:32 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:42 sorry, wrong channel 12:10:52 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:47 Sombra: what's wrong with playing AK if you want lugonu? 12:13:12 AreBrandon: well personally I like being xl>1 pre-lair but hey 12:14:35 potatolizard: You must not have played Jiyva early or take a nap at the beginning of each floor? 12:14:49 are we talking about the same jiyva 12:16:36 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:21 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Client Quit] 12:23:13 orb spider (06s) | Spd: 12 (spell: 200%) | HD: 7 | HP: 34-51 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 508(poison:14-28) | web sense | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 585 | Sp: o.destruction (9d9) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: insect. 12:23:13 %??orb spider 12:23:15 jumping spider (12s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 22-43 | AC/EV: 6/12 | Dam: 2016(ensnare), 508(poison:16-32) | see invisible, web sense | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 300 | Sp: blink close [11!AM, 06!sil], blink away [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: insect. 12:23:15 %??jumping spider 12:23:19 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:36 why on earth do orb spiders have a poison attack. 12:23:51 do they actually ever attack in melee 12:24:28 I guess if a moth of wrath berserks one? 12:24:55 orb spider (06s) | Spd: 18 (spell: 200%) | HD: 7 | HP: 51-77 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 708(poison:14-28) | web sense | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 585 | Sp: o.destruction (9d9) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: insect. 12:24:55 %??orb spider perm_ench:berserk 12:24:58 spider (10s) | Spd: 15 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-29 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 1008(poison:10-20) | web sense | Res: 06magic(10) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 132 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 12:24:58 %??spider 12:25:06 nearly as much damage as a basic 'spider' 12:25:08 eeeexcept moths of wrath don't apparently berserk them for whatever reason 12:25:14 huh, really? 12:25:25 well I can't get them to do it in wizmoe 12:25:29 -!- theTower_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:31 wizmode but wizmoe is fine too 12:25:33 unknown ench: "frenzy" 12:25:33 %??orb spider perm_ench:frenzy 12:25:35 hm 12:25:51 orb spider (06s) | Spd: 12 (spell: 200%) | HD: 7 | HP: 34-51 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 508(poison:14-28) | web sense | Res: 06magic(40) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 585 | Sp: o.destruction (9d9) [11!AM, 06!sil] | Sz: small | Int: insect. 12:25:51 %??orb spider perm_ench:insane 12:26:00 could frenzy an orb spider, I guess 12:26:29 yeah even if I lock them in a place where they can't move the moth won't berserk it 12:26:40 maybe it effects that thing you love 12:26:42 ignite poison 12:27:00 .crushed 12:27:01 77. hackum the Severer (L23 MuBe of Trog), thrown by an octopode crusher on Depths:3 on 2014-11-25 14:43:43, with 487354 points after 60215 turns and 2:53:16. 12:27:03 that affects hydras too 12:27:09 and other stuff that leaves poisonous corpses 12:27:24 Badzerk 12:27:39 I mean, effecting them more 12:27:58 (it has been almost a year since I bothered with ignite poison, so) 12:27:59 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:02 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:28:08 -!- theTower_ is now known as theTower 12:28:13 apparently you can kill a death yak with two high power ignite poison casts 12:28:33 impressive 12:30:49 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:31:10 !source spl-damage.cc 12:31:11 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD 12:31:33 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:31:45 !source spl-damage.cc:1645 12:31:45 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD#l1645 12:31:56 degeneration is a poisonous potion? I guess poison miscasts can do stat damage (still =\) 12:32:21 looks like as long as they have poisonous corpses, it doesn't matter if they have poison attacks (or vice versa) for ignite poison purposes. 12:32:27 fr: ignite poison porpoises 12:32:48 what if they have poisonous attacks but not corpses 12:33:30 I wonder if '// This is dumb, only used for adjust!' is enough for @crawlcode 12:34:19 @crawlcode's standards are EXTREMELY stringent. 12:35:23 -!- Guest12366 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:04 -!- lyrick has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:55 -!- Guest12366 is now known as Sombra_ 12:37:34 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:10 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:38:29 wait a minute 12:38:35 I just found a jiyva altar on D:6 12:38:46 suspicious... 12:38:53 -!- Sombra has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:39:52 it can happen! 12:40:01 (pretty rarely.) 12:40:22 I think I've never seen that 12:40:32 -!- Cryp71c_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:40:38 I saw it last game but I couldn't take it because I was DD 12:43:41 jiyva can appear outside of slime in two rare temple layouts, a mere two D vaults, an entry vault, half of jelly special rooms, and an extremely low chance in the jelly food vault 12:43:55 alongside, of course, 12:45:02 50/102 slime entries 12:46:10 personally I'd be fine with more cases like the jelly special rooms where you have to take on rather early top-tier jellies as the best of chances for a non-slime:6 jiyva altar 12:50:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:54:37 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:54:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:56:48 I just had a random crash while tabbing 12:56:52 !crash 12:56:53 10418. zzxc, XL11 MfSk, T:12236 (milestone): https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/zzxc/crash-zzxc-20141125-185603.txt 12:57:21 and now I happen to be rolled back to before I ate a mut chunk and got teleportitis 12:57:48 Rupert hits your quarterstaff of a volcano {drain, +Rage +Fly} with a great 12:57:48 mace of crushing! 12:58:05 can i uh, exchange my summoned artifact weapon with my own please? thanks 12:58:25 also is this a new thing with dance card or have i just never seen it before 12:58:59 ahh, it is a relatively new feature 12:59:42 !tell n78291 Rupert hits your quarterstaff of a volcano {drain, +Rage +Fly} with a great mace of crushing! 12:59:43 simmarine: OK, I'll let n78291 know. 13:01:05 I just crashed again 13:01:12 I think I know what it might be 13:01:26 I tried to walk into my friendly BIA ogre to swap places 13:01:28 <|amethyst> zxc232: you swapped places with an ally? 13:01:45 <|amethyst> yep 13:01:55 <|amethyst> %git fff482a 13:01:56 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2702-gfff482a: Don't crash when swapping places with a monster. 10(16 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fff482a9e225 13:02:08 <|amethyst> already fixed, but cpo hasn't rebuilt yet 13:02:31 ahh 13:02:41 I thought CPO updated every couple of hours? 13:02:54 anyway, you guys are really fast with fixing bugs =] 13:04:09 <|amethyst> !learn edit rebuild[2] s@$@; CXC: 0500/0400@ 13:04:10 rebuild[2/2]: Trunk update start times in UTC (second number during summer time): CSZO: 0600/0500; CAO: 1700; CDO: 0600/0500; CLAN: 2300/2200; CBRO: 0800/0700; CXC: 0500/0400 13:04:22 <|amethyst> I don't know about CPO's schedule, since it doesn't announce rebuilds in IRC 13:05:16 wow... even though I knew about the bug, I still forgot about it 13:05:45 such a natural impulse to swap places with ally so they block the 1 tile wide corridor 13:07:12 simmarine: I think that one was theTower's addition? 13:07:12 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:07:14 not sure 13:07:17 no, n7 13:07:25 o 13:07:27 ok 13:07:54 committer Nicholas Feinberg 13:07:55 !! 13:08:11 i guess this was because of nemelex branch merge 13:10:59 03edlothiol02 07* 0.16-a0-2708-g3925e26: Webtiles: Do device pixel scaling better, fixing Firefox rendering. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 20+ 25-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3925e268bea4 13:11:02 probably 13:18:47 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:18:58 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:03 -!- Sombra_ is now known as Sombra 13:23:25 edlothiol: thank you!!! I have been trying to get to that for a few days now :) 13:23:29 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:36 buddy got drained repeatedly by Sonja and didn't realize it (doh). got all skills drained to 0 and wasn't able to see an increase after 45 minutes. 13:27:42 !lg zackoid -log 13:27:43 168. zackoid, XL14 TrMo, T:23032: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/zackoid/morgue-zackoid-20141125-185554.txt 13:28:26 thought that you should slowly build back exp? or were the effective skill values somewhere in the negatives? 13:28:34 (and displaying as 0) 13:30:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:30:17 -!- Manslay[work] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:34:48 Grunt: it's still not perfect, with pixel ratios close to 1 you end up e.g. with 34 pixel cells rendered to a 31.16667px canvas 13:34:53 -!- lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:35:52 edlothiol: it is a lot better than what we had before on high dpi displays. 13:36:06 (the entire project, that is) 13:36:23 ...so "not perfect" is a lot better than "ugly mess" :) 13:36:52 -!- vimpulse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39:00 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 13:41:02 which file would I check for draining effects on the player? 13:41:12 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:41:34 <|amethyst> johnstein: what happens when draining hits, or what effect that has on skill? 13:42:15 maybe both. trying to help my buddy explain what happened to him 13:42:21 <|amethyst> !source attack::drain_defender 13:42:21 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/attack.cc;hb=HEAD#l1049 13:42:28 <|amethyst> !source player::drain_exp 13:42:29 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player.cc;hb=HEAD#l7241 13:42:36 <|amethyst> err 13:42:36 Ty 13:42:46 <|amethyst> !source drain_player 13:42:46 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD#l527 13:42:55 <|amethyst> that's the one that actually gives you drain 13:42:58 <|amethyst> as for the skills 13:43:33 <|amethyst> !source player::skill 13:43:34 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player.cc;hb=HEAD#l6232 13:44:03 <|amethyst> probably he was drained into very negative skill levels 13:44:17 <|amethyst> which are treated as zero 13:44:21 which sounds like an expected behavior 13:44:34 it just isn't explicitly displayed as such to the player 13:44:39 might be good for it to be displayed as negative 13:44:41 <|amethyst> well, I feel like it should just kill you rather than leaving you crippled 13:44:49 like ev 13:44:54 |amethyst: do you remember when I implemented that 13:44:56 and it was reverted 13:46:02 |amethyst: it definitely eventually killed him 13:46:02 <|amethyst> Heavy draining already recovers quickly, such that it should be possible to 13:46:06 <|amethyst> recover even when killing low-XP monsters. If very heavy draining is still 13:46:08 <|amethyst> problematic, it might be better to scale down draining when already heavily 13:46:11 <|amethyst> drained, rather than making it behave in a different way entirely past a 13:46:14 <|amethyst> certain point. 13:46:15 agh 13:46:16 <|amethyst> So that is a lie 13:46:18 the newline cost...! 13:46:24 |amethyst: hahaha really 13:46:26 he was just so frustrated that he didn't see any increase from 0 for 45 minutes 13:46:31 <|amethyst> %git de178d7 13:46:31 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-2245-gde178d7: Revert "Put heavily drained players out of their misery" 10(4 months ago, 7 files, 14+ 58-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=de178d7cde5e 13:46:32 jesus christ 13:46:33 really should replace sonja's draining brand 13:46:39 no I mean I remember the commit message 13:47:03 but the relevant code is kind of gross, so I never double-checked mpa's assertions 13:47:18 obviously she should get antimagic 13:47:47 just bump up distortion branding right? 13:47:54 <|amethyst> 45 minutes and 7000 turns without getting above 0.0 skill does not sound like "recovers quickly" 13:48:12 currently it's 1/2 disto, 1/3 venom, 1/6 draining 13:48:20 if I had known he was having trouble I would have had him save his game 13:48:27 I didn't find out till after rip 13:48:34 draining sonja is probably the only time one can even get that much draining anyway 13:48:44 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:49:19 (or maybe one's paralyzed ten times in front of two shadow dragons but) 13:51:09 <|amethyst> !lm zackoid br.enter=lair -tv:channel=dev:<0:>$ 13:51:10 33. zackoid, XL11 TrMo, T:9367 (milestone) requested for dev (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:52:17 <|amethyst> !lm zackoid br.enter=lair -tv:cancel 13:52:18 33. zackoid, XL11 TrMo, T:9367 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:52:40 !lm zackoid br.enter=lair -tv:channel=dev:<0:>$:cancel 13:52:41 33. zackoid, XL11 TrMo, T:9367 (milestone) cancel requested for dev (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:52:51 <|amethyst> wasn't the first time he entered lair 13:53:11 <|amethyst> !lm zackoid uniq=erolcha -tv:cancel 13:53:12 17. zackoid, XL13 TrMo, T:16703 (milestone) cancel requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:53:22 <|amethyst> err 13:53:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:53:33 <|amethyst> !lm zackoid uniq=erolcha -tv:channel=dev:<0:>$ 13:53:34 17. zackoid, XL13 TrMo, T:16703 (milestone) requested for dev (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 13:53:54 drained by Sonja in orc4 13:53:58 wow 13:54:08 turn 16176 13:54:10 its even ash too, nice 13:54:51 oh, he never actually killed her 13:55:07 he was nerfed pretty good 13:55:10 yes i see 13:55:19 i dont think ive ever seen an xl13 troll nearly die to an orc warrior 13:55:30 haha 13:56:16 not sure if he should take off that storm dragon armour at that point 13:56:34 i dont know if the tradeoff wouldve been better 13:56:41 i personally wouldve kept it on for the ac 13:56:58 not a very common decision one has to make though 13:57:03 heh 14:00:05 really am tempted to replace sonja's draining with antimagic, between not giving her more disto and it being a neat niche 14:00:14 not like you need much mp to blink around anyway 14:02:56 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:07 <|amethyst> oh, hm 14:03:30 -!- kazimuth has quit [Client Quit] 14:03:30 <|amethyst> does this code mean that draining overrides ash penance pseudo-drain? 14:03:51 <|amethyst> as in, if you're facing ash wrath, you're better off letting a wight hit you once? 14:04:05 good tech 14:04:05 bizarre 14:04:13 <|amethyst> hm 14:04:26 <|amethyst> oh, no 14:04:33 <|amethyst> that's a recursive call to skill() 14:04:41 <|amethyst> phew 14:06:03 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:03 The build was fixed. (master - 3925e26 #797 : Florian Diebold): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/42116084 14:06:03 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:11:07 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15:38 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2361-g02ae10f: Webtiles: refactor config loader to accept custom config path. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 19+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02ae10ff4fb4 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2362-gac38291: Webtiles: PEP8-ise a few files. 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 45+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac38291941d5 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2363-gf0207fa: Webtiles: chmod +x get_titles.py 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0207fa348c4 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2364-gf7f2248: Webtiles: check_config should output errors, not warnings 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7f2248c9e70 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2365-gbfeea76: Webtiles: support for games.conf.d/ 10(2 weeks ago, 4 files, 130+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfeea7603f3e 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2366-g180c9d7: Webtiles: chown pidfile when running as non-root 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=180c9d79717f 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2367-g92485e5: Webtiles: Silence spurious error during webserver shutdown. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=92485e5d7414 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2368-g13731a1: Webtiles: Add example for "[[games]].options" in config.toml.sample 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13731a1d120f 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2369-gfea8439: Webtiles: config.dgl_status_file improvements. 10(2 weeks ago, 3 files, 16+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fea843905874 14:17:11 03chequers02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-2370-g85ce4ba: Webtiles: Debug logging for listen socket setup 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=85ce4ba7dfa1 14:17:11 ... and 15 more commits 14:22:50 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:25:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:28:43 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:29:31 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:35:17 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 14:43:47 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:13 woah 14:44:29 who was that? 14:44:52 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:45:36 !crash zzxc 14:45:36 13. zzxc, XL11 MfSk, T:12119 (milestone): https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/zzxc/crash-zzxc-20141125-190452.txt 14:47:07 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:48:13 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:49:29 <|amethyst> chequers: probably want to update trunk 14:49:44 <|amethyst> chequers: the version currently on CPO crashes whenever you try to swap places with a monster 14:50:18 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:51:04 FR: total slaying is displayed somewhere on % screen 14:51:14 !messages 14:51:15 (1/2) |amethyst said (3d 2h 32m 42s ago): added and pushed: I called it ${PREFIX} rather than ${commandglyph} 14:51:18 !messages 14:51:19 (1/1) |amethyst said (2d 22h 32m 27s ago): lost password, I think on CLAN https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13968 14:51:30 |amethyst: yeah, i broke the cron file with the autoupdate script yesterday -.- 14:51:36 <|amethyst> chequers: aha 14:52:01 <|amethyst> FR: iron shrikes 14:52:03 edlothiol: thanks for the merge :D did any commits not make it in? 14:52:26 <|amethyst> so I can use in a quote the rest of the SMZ song from 14:52:30 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 14:52:30 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2707-g5e6b6c3: Add a quote for starcursed masses. 10(12 hours ago, 1 file, 12+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e6b6c3c28cb 14:53:41 chequers: no; I'm not sure about the permanent fallback for minify though 14:54:06 |amethyst: btw, i put up the (currently pre-pre-preeeeee-apha) puppet repo here https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/dcss-webserver-puppet 14:54:30 <|amethyst> chequers: you should talk with TZer0 14:54:45 <|amethyst> chequers: who is working on a docker image for similar purposes 14:54:52 oh, interesting 14:55:10 edlothiol: ah, my reasoning was "I want an error logged if minification has failed, but I don't want it logged for every request, so it should set a global variable. hmm, I guess I can just stop trying minification in future" 14:55:32 edlothiol: so, it would be relatively simple to just set a variable that "we printed the warning" and keep trying for minified 14:55:59 TZer0: interesting! tell me more! I was looking at that but decided not to bother since i couldn't build a static dcss 14:56:02 (afk for a few hours) 14:56:55 chequers: oh, I can add you to the project if you'd like to 14:57:03 I'm spent some time last weekend on it 14:57:19 and I'm planning to make something that can be tested and possibly deployed next weekend. 14:58:02 chequers: yeah, I guess it's fine, since you can reload the config to make it retry 14:58:29 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:59:26 chequers: I assume you saw that I added two commits, adding you to the credits (finally) and making sure the games files are loaded in sorted order 15:00:31 chequers: added you on Steam. 15:03:00 Dithmenos umbra plays poorly with fog 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9259 by Berder 15:03:52 <|amethyst> hm 15:04:02 <|amethyst> is umbra supposed to be blocked by opaque things? 15:04:12 <|amethyst> I figured it was like silent spectres 15:04:44 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:07 <|amethyst> If so, I guess recalc the agrid when clouds are created or destroyed (and when terrain changes, if we don't do that already) 15:05:33 doesn't silent spectre aura go through everything 15:05:40 <|amethyst> yeah 15:06:05 <|amethyst> I mean, if umbra is supposed to be blocked by opaque things, then one should recalc 15:08:09 <|amethyst> hrm 15:09:42 <|amethyst> ah, umbra does specifically use LOS_DEFAULT 15:10:05 how do halos work? 15:10:49 <|amethyst> the same way as umbras 15:11:24 <|amethyst> strangely, I'm using ?fog to reproduce 9259, and it doesn't happen with just one scroll 15:11:33 <|amethyst> oh 15:11:37 <|amethyst> it's not the number of scrolls 15:11:41 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:37 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13:29 <|amethyst> read fog while haloed or umbraed, then let the clouds expire, and it works fine 15:14:47 <|amethyst> but read fog, take one step (and optionally return to your starting position), and then let the clouds expire---then the halo is missing pieces 15:15:42 !tell Grunt I missed roctavian playing Ru on cao. What were the highlights? 15:15:42 Lasty_: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:15:58 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:20 <|amethyst> ah, and that makes sense now... the fog appearing doesn't change the agrid, but moving does (and then it takes the fog into account) 15:24:11 Lasty_: Apocalypse vs the V:5 ambusg 15:24:35 Lasty_: actually it was mostly Tornado there, but. 15:24:58 (never mind Ru; roctavian *is* the great annihilating truth) 15:30:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:32:16 !learn add roctavian never mind Ru; roctavian *is* the great annihilating truth 15:32:17 roctavian[1/1]: never mind Ru; roctavian *is* the great annihilating truth 15:32:37 haha 15:33:03 Apocalypse is pretty stellar in V5. Combine with Immolation to make sure the guards who merely got paralyzed bite it too. 15:33:17 You're already making a gigantic noise, so why not 15:33:17 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:34:37 Immolation plus whatever, the great V:5 killer 15:34:44 My best was Discord 15:34:48 ??discord[2 15:34:49 discord[2/3]: !lm SGrunt feck br.end=vaults 2 -tv:<0 15:34:53 ^ 15:35:10 That sounds like the best possible outcome: you can walk away and let them all detonate w/o you 15:36:33 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2709-ge69aa3b: Update auras when clouds change (#9259) 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69aa3bd813d 15:37:26 <|amethyst> oh 15:37:30 <|amethyst> that was also 8029 15:37:40 <|amethyst> %bug 8029 15:37:40