00:00:05 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:01:40 doy: perhaps I'll think about how to get a Fulminant Prism targeter running 00:01:48 (I've had ideas but never really tried to do anything with them) 00:05:40 doy: btw Refrigeration may have some tracer issues 00:06:09 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:27 OH 00:09:53 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2354-g9e10142: Fix monster Refrigeration tracer. 10(59 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e1014221729 00:10:10 hahaha 00:10:20 poor Fannar 00:10:26 must have been nerfed into oblivion by that change 00:10:33 er 00:10:33 bug 00:12:12 Pyromatic (L12 DsGl) (D (Sprint)) 00:12:53 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2353-g8fdfa29 (34) 00:13:49 must have missed it by seconds 00:13:49 rip 00:15:00 'G<' in Temple does nothing on keypress, yet causes autotravel upon exiting Temple 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9206 by tedric 00:16:06 goodbug 00:22:51 elbog (L10 GrMo) (D:9) 00:23:29 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:24:43 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:24:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:53 The build has errored.: (master - 0ef62c7 #522 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41212277 00:24:53 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 00:25:10 github 00:26:10 Grunt: yo 00:26:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2355-g3ece7ea: Fix a necromancer spell set's spell weights. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ece7ea2d08b 00:26:29 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2356-g8003965: Give a necromancer spell set Inner Flame. 10(78 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=800396534be8 00:26:47 I'm about to go to sleep, but what's up? 00:27:03 there's some oddities in the lightning cloud code 00:27:05 which I think was yours? 00:27:16 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2357-g9ec0eb5: cloud.cc: refactor & flatten 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 174+ 150-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ec0eb51dc00 00:27:30 probably 00:27:33 What's up with it? 00:27:56 (1) if !(you.turn_is_over && you.time_taken > 0), it returns the damage dealt by rain 00:28:01 in _actor_cloud_damage 00:28:15 yes 00:28:18 because 00:28:20 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:36 if no time passes, there can be no lightning? 00:28:45 ok, that makes more sense 00:29:04 the other thing... the other thing might be an error on my side 00:29:06 double-checking 00:29:10 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:29:12 Well, the rain thing is because the cloud is raining, so it should deal damage to monsters that take damage in rain clouds 00:29:17 (e.g. fire elementals) 00:29:21 yeah the other one is mine 00:29:23 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:29:40 * Grunt points at the bat zombie and mumbles some strange words. The bat zombie is filled with an inner flame. 00:30:07 maybe we should rebuild cszo when you are done 00:30:11 because you're fixing bugs 00:30:17 (and I want to see explosions......) 00:31:03 well, that stuff isn't bugfixing 00:31:06 except the bug I introduced 00:31:09 shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 00:31:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2358-gc28de37: Fixup storm code 10(34 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c28de37bb95b 00:31:28 you can rebuild as the mood strikes :) 00:31:39 (it's not really that important) 00:31:44 (and I'm going to sleep soon, remember <_<) 00:31:44 <3 00:31:49 explosions in the morning! 00:31:59 * Grunt explodes! 00:32:04 ouch! 00:32:14 todo find my old player inner flame code 00:32:19 (felid bombers ahoy......) 00:32:22 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:32:47 * ontoclasm gestures at Grunt. Grunt is filled with an inner flame! 00:33:01 < Sizzell> elliptic (L17 HaNe) entered the Spider Nest. (D:-1) 00:33:05 elliptic: help? 00:33:22 (maybe it is an old save transfer thing; I spotted another instance of that earlier) 00:34:27 this is an old save yes 00:34:51 since apparently 15 days = 559 commits nowadays 00:35:10 !lm . x=place 00:35:10 40879. [2014-11-17 06:32:37] [place=Lair:3] elliptic the Fetichist (L17 HaNe of Qazlal) left the Spider Nest on turn 35387. (Spider:1) 00:35:15 !lm . x=place -2 00:35:15 40878/40879. [2014-11-17 06:32:32] [place=Spider:1] elliptic the Fetichist (L17 HaNe of Qazlal) entered the Spider Nest on turn 35385. (D:-1) 00:35:22 !lm . x=oplace -2 00:35:23 40878/40879. [2014-11-17 06:32:32] [oplace=D:-1] elliptic the Fetichist (L17 HaNe of Qazlal) entered the Spider Nest on turn 35385. (D:-1) 00:35:38 !lm * br.enter=spider s=oplace 00:35:39 40551 milestones for * (br.enter=spider): 9098x Lair:3, 8873x Lair:4, 8808x Lair:5, 8584x Lair:6, 1805x Lair:1, 1709x Lair:2, 833x Lair:7, 798x Lair:8, 43x D:-1 00:35:55 !lm * br.enter=spider oplace=D:-1 s=vlong 00:35:55 43 milestones for * (br.enter=spider oplace=D:-1): 13x 0.16-a0-2298-gc9c7a27, 9x 0.16-a0-2299-g566df74, 8x 0.16-a0-2273-g6c21c45, 6x 0.16-a0-2303-g5327d74, 3x 0.16-a0-2296-gdce89d5, 3x 0.16-a0-2334-gb5d16dc, 0.16-a0-2353-g8fdfa29 00:36:11 !lm * oplace=D:-1 s=vlong 00:36:11 1352 milestones for * (oplace=D:-1): 429x 0.16-a0-2299-g566df74, 327x 0.16-a0-2298-gc9c7a27, 247x 0.16-a0-2273-g6c21c45, 145x 0.16-a0-2303-g5327d74, 83x 0.16-a0-2296-gdce89d5, 67x 0.16-a0-2334-gb5d16dc, 32x 0.16-a0-2278-gad6c6b8, 12x 0.16-a0-2263-g3ec7e53, 6x 0.16-a0-2323-g19267dd, 3x 0.16-a0-2319-g575aa7f, 0.16-a0-2353-g8fdfa29 00:36:29 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2359-g8020d6e: Add a cloud name assert 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8020d6e29702 00:36:31 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2359-g8020d6e (34) 00:37:05 !lm * br.enter oplace!=D:-1 max=vlong x=vlong 00:37:13 -!- potatolizard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:37:16 2162725. [2014-11-16 19:28:14] [vlong=0.16-a0-2334-gb5d16dc] starmstar the Cleaver (L11 MuFi of Okawaru) entered a Volcano on turn 17057. (Orc:3) 00:37:18 imo min= 00:38:07 no I meant max 00:38:15 !lm * br.enter oplace=D:-1 min=vlong x=vlong 00:38:16 1353. [2014-11-15 09:16:21] [vlong=0.16-a0-2263-g3ec7e53] ApexPredator the Spry (L19 HaAs of Ashenzari) entered the Shoals on turn 57800. (D:-1) 00:38:30 looks like it was broken in the past few days 00:38:51 %git 3ec7e53 00:38:51 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2263-g3ec7e53: Implement and use a map_find template function. 10(2 days ago, 17 files, 75+ 72-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ec7e53c43c5 00:38:55 &versions 00:39:07 CAO: 0.16-a0-2303-g5327d74, CBRO: 0.16-a0-2299-g566df74, CDO: 0.16-a0-2299-g566df74, CKR: 0.16-a0-2334-gb5d16dc, CLAN: 0.16-a0-2319-g575aa7f, CSZO: 0.16-a0-2359-g8020d6e 00:39:59 !lm * br.enter oplace=D:-1 s=noun 00:39:59 1354 milestones for * (br.enter oplace=D:-1): 390x Temple, 250x Lair, 170x Orc, 77x Elf, 70x Depths, 64x Vaults, 55x Snake, 47x Zot, 46x Shoals, 43x Swamp, 43x Spider, 35x Slime, 31x Crypt, 10x Tomb, 7x Coc, 6x Geh, 5x Dis, 5x Tar 00:40:11 looks like it doesn't affect portal vaults 00:40:19 !kw portal 00:40:20 Keyword: portal => br=icecv|volcano|lab|bailey|sewer|bazaar|ossuary|wizlab|trove 00:40:40 !lm * br.enter oplace!=D:-1 !portal max=vlong x=vlong 00:40:46 1783068. [2014-11-17 05:32:38] [vlong=0.16-a0-2334-gb5d16dc] hone the Slayer (L25 TeGl of Okawaru) entered the Vestibule of Hell on turn 82975. (Depths:5) 00:40:58 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:14 !lm * br.enter oplace!=D:-1 !portal place!=hell max=vlong x=vlong 00:41:20 1764613. [2014-11-16 21:40:12] [vlong=0.16-a0-2303-g5327d74] Dynast the Sensei (L27 DsTm of Makhleb) entered Pandemonium on turn 90350. (Depths:1) 00:41:36 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2360-gf71aa26: Further flattening 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 23+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f71aa261a627 00:41:38 !lm * br.enter oplace!=D:-1 !portal place!=hell place!=pan max=vlong x=vlong 00:41:40 1717638. [2014-11-15 06:26:03] [vlong=0.16-a0-2257-g39c7246] rubinko the Unseen (L16 DsEn of Fedhas) entered the Snake Pit on turn 46314. (Lair:6) 00:41:54 okay yeah, definitely not a safe transfer thing 00:42:02 broken for all games since then 00:42:17 broken somewhere between 2258 and 2263 I guess (inclusive) 00:42:46 s/safe/save/ 00:42:55 %git 8c889247a67b4d679e5400ffe23ba07f42f9297a 00:42:55 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2255-g8c88924: Make Pan tile colours match console colours. 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 5+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c889247a67b 00:43:08 it's probably not 2258 00:43:10 %git 2a7ae6531c3d559f8000bdc8f127de5216758593 00:43:10 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-2258-g2a7ae65: Edit zig loot mildly. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a7ae6531c3d 00:43:33 what is the easiest way to get those commits? 00:43:38 by index? 00:43:41 yes 00:43:55 I don't have a good solution, I just searched for the name of 2263 (which I already knew) 00:43:59 and then scrolled a few down 00:44:08 %git 5a62ea032f5af26f234a67ec3ddb09077e94df5a 00:44:08 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2262-g5a62ea0: Simplify 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a62ea032f5a 00:44:10 here's 2262 btw 00:44:31 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz. 123456890] 00:44:40 if it's something <= 2263, I think it's almost certainly 2263 itself 00:45:01 yeah 2263 looks possible for sure 00:45:04 that one was pretty wide-reaching 00:46:04 yeah it has to be 2263, just looked at the others myself 00:46:22 -!- Siegurt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:46:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:46:45 also, hi elliptic! 00:47:08 I'm tracing the code for this 00:47:08 and 00:47:31 !source travel.cc:1867 00:47:32 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/travel.cc;hb=HEAD#l1867 00:47:41 2263 must be the cause 00:48:28 oh 00:48:30 is this also the G issue? 00:48:37 probably 00:48:56 convenient 00:48:59 oh 00:49:02 actually 00:49:06 I see the bug 00:49:08 good 00:49:10 that function 00:49:12 IMO fix it 00:49:17 good advice :p 00:50:39 oh 00:51:09 that *pd = 0; line looks suspicious 00:51:41 I'm fixing it 00:51:47 hold up 00:52:51 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2361-g1b2be08: Fix oplace=D:-1. 10(71 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b2be080c47b 00:52:57 -!- bleak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:53:00 pardon the terseness; I'm on my tablet 00:58:49 oh 00:58:53 I bet 00:59:00 this also fixed the G< bug 01:06:40 -!- ephinia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:08:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2362-gd8e5799: Unbrace 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8e5799988cf 01:08:08 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded: Move cloud colours into data 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 72+ 106-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=19e4deda8901 01:18:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:28 The build failed.: (master - e8e7350 #524 : Shayne Halvorson): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41212986 01:18:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:19:03 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:37 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:23:07 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 01:26:37 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 01:27:41 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 01:28:41 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:29:46 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:32:00 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141110030204]] 01:32:46 -!- ThinkTwice has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:52 Is this a bug? P - an enchanted trident 01:34:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:35:15 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:46 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 01:37:05 -!- potatolizard has joined ##crawl-dev 01:40:37 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:41:30 -!- ThinkTwice has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:42:48 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:15 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:43:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:45:52 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:47:08 -!- kroki has quit [Client Quit] 01:47:40 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:51:20 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:20 The build has errored.: (master - af44b86 #525 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41213617 01:51:20 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 01:53:53 Screen does not redraw correctly 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9207 by Kadarus 01:58:58 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 02:05:29 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:05:37 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:28 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:09:08 Webtiles fails to update display (in Firefox) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9208 by silentsnack 02:10:20 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:16:21 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 02:21:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:54 The build has errored.: (master - bb92e1a #526 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41214195 02:21:54 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:22:41 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 02:24:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:28:40 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:28:58 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:39:36 Cannot see my moves 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9209 by mopl 02:41:05 -!- AnnoyedKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:41:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:41 -!- lobf has left ##crawl-dev 02:42:11 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 02:44:24 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:24 The build has errored.: (master - 8fdfa29 #527 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41214419 02:44:24 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 02:44:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:21:38 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:38 The build passed.: (master - 9e10142 #528 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41215366 03:21:38 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:22:18 -!- Wahaha has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:33:37 -!- schistosoma has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:38:26 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:41:29 -!- Raccoon^ is now known as Raccoon 03:48:43 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:43 The build passed.: (master - 9ec0eb5 #529 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41216065 03:48:43 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 03:55:57 -!- pentax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:59:56 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 04:00:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:03:21 -!- Rockit has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 04:09:11 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:56 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:56 The build passed.: (master - c28de37 #530 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41216249 04:23:56 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 04:30:06 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:42:25 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:17 -!- allbefore has left ##crawl-dev 04:44:27 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:45:30 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:55:04 -!- Blakmane has quit [Client Quit] 05:00:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:03:10 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:04:00 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:08:12 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 05:22:25 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:39 -!- Mandygora has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:29:00 -!- ololoev has quit [Client Quit] 05:32:21 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:21 The build passed.: (master - f71aa26 #532 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41216667 05:32:21 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 05:33:59 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 05:35:07 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:59:52 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07:10 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:10 The build has errored.: (master - 1b2be08 #533 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41217220 06:07:10 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 06:13:17 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:42 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:21 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:37:33 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:57 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:51:15 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:54 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 07:03:58 Weird ghost description. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9210 by LIX 07:04:01 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:06:59 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:25 haha 07:08:33 must be the first UC ghost anyone has xv'd 07:09:50 The 27-headed Lernaean hydra shaped Lernaean hydra returns to its original 07:09:50 shape as it dies. 07:09:52 oops 07:12:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:14:10 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:16:26 just back from a few days of absence... 07:16:42 has the gozag weapons shop been reported and/or fixed? 07:17:05 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:19:55 CaptainStabbin (L12 OpCK) (D:10) 07:26:10 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 07:28:52 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:30:34 does it make sense that the wizmode command creating a > stair is &, and the one for < stairs is &. ??? 07:31:20 I don't think so -- on this US layout keyboard, I have < = Shift, and > = Shift. 07:31:54 yeah 07:32:14 !crashlog CaptainStabbin 07:32:15 1. CaptainStabbin, XL12 OpCK, T:23446 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/CaptainStabbin/crash-CaptainStabbin-20141117-131954.txt 07:33:08 i just use &) 07:34:04 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:43 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:41:39 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:52 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:52:05 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:49 Grunt: i tested fannar, he seemed to work fine with refrigeration 07:53:56 not sure why it was different on a lich 07:54:03 resistances maybe 08:03:43 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:44 Grunt: and yeah, i've got some ideas about fulminant prism too, but it's hard to tell how they'd work out in practice 08:05:10 so what's going to happen to healer 08:05:29 FR: Monstrous Leda's Liquefaction 08:05:55 I actually think that would be a good spell for Roxanne flavourwise 08:11:17 i could see that 08:16:28 I also had a weird dream in which I died to some weird hounds that breathed never-miss breaths that did smite-style damage, stripped all magic buffs away, AND inflicted dimensional anchor 08:17:30 blink dogs? 08:17:41 actually, even with that patch, liches don't cast refrigeration 08:17:43 not sure what's going on 08:17:55 something like that yeah 08:18:11 it was summoned by a pan lord spell though 08:20:46 -!- CcS has quit [] 08:24:16 -!- radinms has quit [] 08:28:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:36:15 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:20 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:38:16 now i just need to fix " A hydra shaped Lernaean hydra corpse." 08:38:22 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:57 -!- Kashira has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:40:55 _You see here the corpse of the Lernaean hydra. 08:41:05 i have a suspicion this is wrong but it sounds good 08:44:13 -!- foophykins has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:31 -!- Naubita_ has quit [Client Quit] 08:44:59 -!- fearitself has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:45:40 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2364-gd816721: Use a constant. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d816721af7ae 08:45:40 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2365-g8e7adf0: Fix shapeshifters, TLH dying (#9200). 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 15+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e7adf0c67db 08:45:40 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2366-gabbe362: Remove a somewhat misleading blank space. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=abbe362c9f93 08:45:40 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2367-g8b0227a: Remove an unused field of MiscastEffect. 10(24 minutes ago, 2 files, 3+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b0227a0ff82 08:45:40 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2368-gf449b06: Don't blame the player for hell effect miscasts (hanon12, Ugrim). 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f449b06ff47e 08:53:22 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:02:42 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 09:06:47 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:08:39 -!- JuicyPear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:14:53 foophykins (L16 MuWz) (Elf:1) 09:15:57 -!- rast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17:54 !crash 09:17:54 9971. foophykins, XL16 MuWz, T:74637 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/foophykins/crash-foophykins-20141117-151452.txt 09:18:07 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:18:24 Keeps happening. I've done the same section of Elf:1 about 12 times now XD 09:19:43 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:16 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:56 foophykins (L16 MuWz) (Elf:1) 09:26:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:28:13 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:28:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:26 -!- Naubita has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:34:10 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:35:10 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:10 The build was broken.: (master - f449b06 #535 : Shmuale Mark): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41251328 09:35:10 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 09:36:31 Opinion poll. I'm thinking Ru's Apocalypse needs to be renamed, since it doesn't exactly carry the right flavor. The new name should convey the idea that you are revealing the brutal truth of ultimate reality to monsters within LOS. I'm currently leaning toward "Terrible Revelation", but other options are "Strip Away Illusion", "Manifest Truth", and "Rip Away the Veil" and "Peel the World's Shell". 09:38:10 END OF THE 8 WAY PATH 09:39:40 Dark Enlightenment 09:39:42 :{P 09:39:42 well, really, that is the actual definition of "apocalypse" 09:39:43 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:37 doy: Oh, yeah? 09:40:46 In that case, problem solved 09:41:40 Yep. That's why the book of Revelations is about the Apocalypse 09:41:56 it got the connotations of destruction and that sort of thing because of the bible, yeah 09:42:29 "the apocalypse" was just a synonym for "revelations" 09:42:40 TIL 09:42:45 anything "revelation" is somewhat stepping on zin's toes since zin is a thinly veiled yehovah 09:42:53 also true 09:42:55 but no one will notice with Apocalypse 09:43:55 Enlightenment 09:43:58 <_< 09:44:15 crawlTV: monsters can already cast Leda's btw 09:44:24 Whoever made weapon brands auto id... i love it 09:44:29 Ah, which ones cast it? 09:44:33 %git :/brand 09:44:34 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2342-g1d5b690: Identify enemy-held weapon brands on sight 10(5 weeks ago, 5 files, 39+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d5b690e8f29 09:44:42 crawlTV: none right now 09:45:00 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2369-gfc72cfc: Don't crash on foe-less blue devils. 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc72cfc76e63 09:45:02 nice work, I think that's a very player friendly change, albeit at the cost of slightly more cognitive load 09:45:02 I like the idea of Roxanne getting it, though.... 09:45:08 <|amethyst> ^^ that's the fix for foophykins' crash 09:45:14 |amethyst: doh 09:45:17 <|amethyst> I'm a little concerned about the kiting code 09:45:24 <|amethyst> referring to foe rather than defender 09:45:31 <|amethyst> but wasn't able to get that to crash, so 09:45:42 oh 09:45:56 I did not do a very thorough port there 09:46:50 Pan! 09:47:08 <|amethyst> (rebuilding CAO) 09:48:48 !pan wheala 09:48:51 !pan wheals 09:49:08 1learn add wheals whals 09:49:11 1learn add wheals wheala 09:50:24 rip distortion 09:50:28 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:50:50 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 09:50:53 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:51:12 -!- Amnesthesia|Else is now known as Amnesthesia 09:51:30 -!- Smello has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:51:35 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2369-gfc72cfc (34) 09:52:53 i kinda like that suggestion to give Ash rune detection 09:53:10 You have a vision of a rune of Zot! 09:53:34 How would that work in Abyss? 09:54:36 either "it wouldn't because it's abyss" or maybe it'd detect it once you came within X squares 09:55:11 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-2370-gb4eba43: Apply statuses from Apocalypse after damage to limit message spam. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b4eba43fac9d 09:55:11 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-2371-g662a9ef: Increase Apocalypse slow effect length. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=662a9ef771c1 09:55:52 <|amethyst> or tell you as soon as it's generated 09:55:58 <|amethyst> you still have to get there before the abyss shifts 09:56:37 <|amethyst> and I believe they're always defended now? 09:58:33 I think there's one rune vault with no enemies? 09:58:45 Maybe it's not around any longer. 09:58:57 it would be nice if the gates out were announced, too 09:59:34 Grunt: how does the new casting frequency thing work in monster spell sets? 09:59:43 also i had a thought that might make mapping less... irritating 10:00:00 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:00:09 what if instead of mapping random individual squares, it mapped larger blotches 10:00:30 like, radius 2 circles or similar 10:00:32 ontoclasm: that's what we discussed last time it was changed 10:00:44 oh? 10:00:51 something along those lines, anyway 10:01:15 making it map everything was just the easy fix to make it less irritating, but making it partially map in a more interesting way would be better i think 10:01:15 doy: (chance) in 200 of casting that spell per tuen, essentially 10:01:17 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:01:22 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 10:01:31 doy: sum of chance is generally 50 + monster HD 10:01:41 (as that's how it worked before) 10:01:44 doy: maybe use a voronoi map 10:02:06 doy: fixup_spells can weight things in that fashion for you 10:02:07 ontoclasm: yeah, that'd be interesting 10:02:13 Grunt: okay 10:02:18 thanks 10:02:25 Grunt: any ideas about the refrigeration thing? 10:02:46 doy: yes: 10:03:05 %git HEAD^{/Refrig} 10:03:05 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2354-g9e10142: Fix monster Refrigeration tracer. 10(10 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e1014221729 10:03:12 Grunt: no, that still doesn't work 10:03:24 did you remember to rebase? 10:03:34 ??gods 10:03:34 gods[1/2]: '?' '/' 'G' for a complete list (in game). Type "?? reasons" (in IRC) to get a list of reasons which might motivate you to worship that particular god. 10:03:35 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:36 try &mlich spells:ozocubu's_refrigeration.12.wizard 10:03:40 it won't cast 10:03:42 ??godlist 10:03:42 godlist ~ god list ~ gods[2/2]: Ashenzari, Beogh, Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Jiyva, Kikubaaqudgha, Lugonu, Makhleb, Nemelex Xobeh, Okawaru, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, Trog, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, Zin, the Shining One. 10:03:42 doy I specifically tested that commit in your branch afterwards and it worked 10:03:46 hmmm 10:03:48 odd 10:04:02 do 10:04:16 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:04:20 &mlich spells:ozocubu's_refrigeration.200.wizard 10:04:21 and 10:04:28 Available god letters for the no-backtracking god. HIPUW 10:04:37 I think I'll put it under W as a placeholder. 10:04:39 make sure you're high enough level that it wants to cast it 10:05:26 ??missing gods 10:05:26 missing gods[1/1]: HIPUW 10:05:39 fr the H god is Hipuw 10:05:42 <3 10:05:50 heh 10:06:22 Grunt: oh, that affects it? 10:06:25 huh, weird 10:08:36 Grunt: also, SPELL_NO_SPELL should never be used anymore, right? 10:09:31 lessens (L12 DECK) (D:10) 10:09:37 <|amethyst> !crash 10:09:37 9973. lessens, XL12 DECK, T:17452 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/lessens/crash-lessens-20141117-160923.txt 10:09:53 <|amethyst> same crash, rebuilding 10:11:05 Lasty: Wayback 10:11:57 also 10:11:59 uh 10:12:12 lessens (L12 DECK) (D:10) 10:12:15 !source fixup_spells 10:12:16 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc;hb=HEAD#l4918 10:12:39 i am almost positive that "it = spells.begin() - 1" is undefined behavior 10:12:45 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2371-g662a9ef (34) 10:12:52 it probably is, but it works 10:13:03 well, that's the thing about undefined behavior 10:13:12 it works until it just doesn't in incredibly mysterious ways 10:13:23 it is a very bad idea to rely on 10:13:31 <|amethyst> why start back at the beginning anyway? 10:13:46 i originally changed it as a stopgap and was hoping someone would find the correct way to do it 10:13:52 <|amethyst> spells.erase(it--); 10:13:58 <|amethyst> but 10:14:08 <|amethyst> that is still problematic if it's the first spell you're erasing 10:14:18 yeah 10:14:27 which is why i'm asking when we would ever have SPELL_NO_SPELL 10:14:35 old saves 10:14:36 mostly 10:14:42 ah, right 10:14:45 i guess that makes sense 10:14:49 also, i used that in several other places 10:15:01 %git mon_spell_slots^{/bererk} 10:15:01 Could not find commit mon_spell_slots^{/bererk} (git returned 128) 10:15:03 %git mon_spell_slots^{/berserk} 10:15:03 Could not find commit mon_spell_slots^{/berserk} (git returned 128) 10:15:08 %git mon-spell-slots^{/berserk} 10:15:08 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1084-g80e8fcb: Spellify Snorg's berserk. 10(4 weeks ago, 4 files, 15+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=80e8fcbb5f17 10:15:11 eh 10:15:51 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:17:01 <|amethyst> perhaps: spells.erase(remove_if(spells.begin(), spells.end(), [](const mon_spell_slot &t) { return t->spell == SPELL_NO_SPELL; }), spells.end()); 10:20:18 <|amethyst> and maybe a helper template template erase_if(C &container, P pred) { C.erase(remove_if(begin(C), end(C), pred), end(C)); } 10:20:27 <|amethyst> err, s/>/> void/ 10:20:55 <|amethyst> so then it's just erase_if(spells, [](const mon_spell_slot &t) { return t->spell == SPELL_NO_SPELL; }); 10:22:07 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:22:54 where do helper templates go? 10:23:09 misc.h i guess? 10:23:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:24:01 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:25:15 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:26:14 hmmm, and those should be container.erase, begin(container), etc, right? 10:28:25 -!- Marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:29:03 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:11 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:30:49 New branch created: no_backtracking_god (1 commit) 10:30:49 03Lasty02 07[no_backtracking_god] * 0.16-a0-2372-g2b4cfd2: Backtracking god initial commit. 10(5 minutes ago, 12 files, 34+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b4cfd280b95 10:31:23 haha 10:35:02 PleasingFungus will have a fit if you abuse misc.h <_< 10:40:44 clearly we need a place to put stuff that doesn't go anywhere else 10:40:52 maybe we could call it "stuff.cc" 10:44:45 Lasty: The Wayfarer 10:45:31 so apt 10:45:37 I work for Wayfair :p 10:46:01 hah 10:46:05 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2372-g37761cc: avoid some undefined behavior 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 22+ 37-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37761cc8d159 10:48:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51:04 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:04 The build was fixed.: (master - fc72cfc #536 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41257516 10:51:04 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 10:57:47 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:24 okay good, #9067 is an extremely simple fix 11:02:33 godabil.cc: In function ‘int _apply_apocalypse(coord_def, int, int, actor*)’: 11:02:36 godabil.cc:6108:68: warning: ‘duration’ may be used uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized] 11:02:39 Lasty: ^ 11:02:42 hmmm 11:03:04 what, really? It compiled fine for me 11:03:50 btw doy, when do we get TRAN_SERPENT_OF_HELL back 11:03:51 :) 11:04:25 Grunt: do you know off the top of your head if ghost_demons loaded from save files get a meaningful spell frequency set for their spells 11:04:37 Backtrackticus 11:04:39 doy: yes, because I made them do so 11:04:41 <3 <3 <3 11:04:42 okay 11:05:01 Grunt: do you see any issues with making fixup_spells maintain the same relative frequencies then? 11:05:33 doy: explain 11:05:45 (carp, I think I narrowly missed the cao build window with this commit) 11:05:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2373-g80e497d: Webtiles: don't use resetTransform() (#9067). 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=80e497d0d3df 11:06:28 PleasingFungus: :D 11:06:55 !tell |amethyst Should we try to make a Docker-image for rapid deployment of community crawl servers? I think it could speed up the process to like 20-30 mins. 11:06:56 TZer0: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:07:11 anyway I'm going to immediately throw a conflict at you 11:07:21 since you made me notice something I did wrong a few months ago 11:07:23 throw new Conflict(); 11:07:51 TZer0: exceptions? new?? in crawl??? 11:08:03 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1/20141106120505]] 11:08:04 There are many exceptions in crawl 11:08:13 Grunt: like, a monster with a spell set that has frequencies of 10, 10, 20, 20 gets normalized to (50+hd)/6, (50+hd)/6, (50+hd)/3, (50+hd)/3 instead of just setting it to (50+hd)/4 across the board 11:08:20 Especially realated to gargoyles and hexes. 11:08:22 :P 11:08:52 *related 11:08:54 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2372-g37761cc (34) 11:09:08 doy: my only concern is that some monster spell sets have changed since then, so we might not get 100% the correct frequencies 11:09:15 doy: oh, wait 11:09:29 well, fixup_spells is only called by ghost_demons, i think 11:09:40 doy: if it's loading a pre mon-spell-slots set it should do that anyway; it just gets multiple copies of a spell 11:09:48 doy: fixup_spells was originally for save compat code :) 11:10:00 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2373-g80e497d (34) 11:11:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2374-gc6b35ec: Check an array's length properly 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6b35ecf028a 11:11:22 oops, should have marked that (unused) 11:11:32 oh, yeah, fixup_spells is called in tags.cc 11:11:34 hmmm 11:14:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:15:31 Grunt: Just pushed a commit that should address the undeclared variable warning. 11:15:46 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-2375-g52119e6: Prevent undeclared variable warnings. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52119e6b3557 11:15:46 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3: Webtiles: show the monster list again. 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c77ec3cbc09 11:16:02 uninitialized 11:16:14 undeclared would be an error, not a warning, I think 11:16:18 er, right 11:16:25 todo: stop messing with webtiles 11:16:28 I'm clearly incompetent at it :b 11:16:42 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 11:16:48 <3 11:16:59 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:59 The build failed.: (master - af44b86 #525 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41213617 11:16:59 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:17:04 nooo 11:17:04 noooooo 11:17:09 PleasingFungus: hi... 11:17:21 good commit to fail 11:17:28 a confusing error, though 11:17:33 failed to find crashlog 11:17:39 "Error 139" 11:17:41 segfault 11:17:41 rip 11:17:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 11:17:45 ah, didn't spot that 11:18:07 yeah, we've been getting quite a lot of those the past couple days 11:18:10 not sure what happened 11:18:40 maybe I'll run a stress test locally and see if I can reproduce it 11:18:51 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:52 The build was fixed.: (master - 0ef62c7 #522 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41212277 11:18:52 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:18:59 \o/ 11:20:27 well 11:20:33 that just means it's an intermittent segfault..... 11:22:03 hm 11:22:10 !stress PleasingFungus 11:22:20 there's a significant amount of code to make sure that yredites get no piety for kills made by confused monsters 11:22:32 thanks, jpeg......? 11:23:09 PleasingFungus: shall I tell her? :) 11:23:19 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 11:23:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:23:56 dpeg: let me finish this commit first! :) 11:24:44 Grunt: how did spell.freq work pre-mon_spell_slots? 11:25:35 doy: it didn't exist 11:25:51 doy: monsters had a (50 + HD) in 200 chance of trying to cast a spell 11:25:59 and it picked more or less evenly between the available slots 11:26:12 -!- joy1999 has quit [Quit: Http://www.ZeroIRC.NET Zero IRC Ver 2.9G] 11:26:28 unmarshallSpells seems to unconditionally unmarshall a byte for .freq though 11:26:55 doy: read the three lines immediately above that 11:26:56 !source tags.cc:5798 11:26:56 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tags.cc;hb=HEAD#l5798 11:27:05 sigh 11:27:10 can we break save compat yet 11:27:14 this code is impossible to read 11:27:18 at least wait until we land sdl2 11:27:19 rip 11:27:47 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 11:30:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:02 The build passed.: (master - bb92e1a #526 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41214195 11:30:02 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:30:12 PleasingFungus has saved us! 11:31:43 (I have stress tests running on a loop right now; maybe I'll get a segfault sometime today) 11:31:56 actually 11:31:56 hm 11:32:40 are you running them in gdb 11:32:49 yes 11:32:54 I was just wondering: 11:33:00 oh, that's what i need to track down next 11:33:05 do we see segfaults with both gcc and clang 11:33:06 or just clang 11:33:08 where we disable gdb for debug builds 11:33:15 so i can un-disable that 11:33:18 and i'm not sure 11:33:23 all of the build logs are on travis 11:34:04 -!- buppy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:34:12 I can only ever remember seeing it in clang 11:34:20 so I'll build with clang to be on the safe side 11:34:23 clang?? 11:34:23 clang 11:34:33 ??clang?? 11:34:33 I don't have a page labeled clang?? in my learndb. 11:34:40 q??clang 11:34:41 clang[1/3]: do {.echo clang} 11:37:35 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:35 The build failed.: (master - 1b2be08 #533 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41217220 11:37:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:37:40 nooooooooooooooooooooooo 11:38:00 oh 11:39:07 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:46 that is the layout_big_octagon hiccup 11:39:56 doy: for the record the problem isn't what I thought it was, but I think I have an explanation anyway 11:40:11 oh really? 11:40:19 Shadowmage952 (L9 FoCK) (D:6) 11:40:24 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:29 the layout_big_octagon crash usually gives a different error though 11:41:16 like you actually get something saying "can't find a '.' to replace" or whatever 11:41:20 yes 11:41:27 and there was one of those since we started getting all of the segfaults 11:41:27 check that most recent travis 11:41:28 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:28 The build passed.: (master - 8fdfa29 #527 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41214419 11:41:28 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 11:41:31 !vault layout_big_octogon 11:41:31 Couldn't find layout_big_octogon in the Crawl source tree 11:41:33 (not *that* one) 11:41:41 this one: https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/jobs/41217222 11:42:12 ah, yeah, that one 11:42:14 right 11:42:28 those are still happening, although the segfaults are more common 11:43:12 -!- Zilis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:44:25 ??travis-ci 11:44:25 I don't have a page labeled travis-ci in my learndb. 11:44:28 ??travis 11:44:28 travis[1/1]: https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/ 11:45:30 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2377-gee7d12e: Paper over a layout_big_octagon issue (#9174). 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee7d12e6952c 11:45:39 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:46:23 what does travis do? 11:46:29 ??travis 11:46:29 travis[1/1]: https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/ 11:46:53 !learn add travis travis runs automatic builds of Crawl and its branches, ensuring that they compile properly. 11:46:53 travis[2/2]: travis runs automatic builds of Crawl and its branches, ensuring that they compile properly. 11:47:02 hm 11:47:05 it also runs tests, right? 11:47:05 !learn del travis[2] 11:47:05 Deleted travis[2/2]: travis runs automatic builds of Crawl and its branches, ensuring that they compile properly. 11:47:33 !learn set travis[1] travis runs automatic builds of Crawl and its branches, ensuring that they compile properly, and running Crawl's tests on the subsequent builds to look for errors or crashes. See: https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/ 11:47:34 travis[1/1]: travis runs automatic builds of Crawl and its branches, ensuring that they compile properly, and running Crawl's tests on the subsequent builds to look for errors or crashes. See: https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/ 11:47:47 neat 11:47:56 Shadowmage952 (L9 FoCK) (D:6) 11:48:02 does every commit get tested/built? 11:48:19 every push 11:48:53 oh good, here's my pithy travis one-liner 11:49:10 !learn add travis Travis can't be bargained with. Travis can't be reasoned with. Travis doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And Travis absolutely will not stop, ever, until your project is dead. 11:49:10 travis[2/2]: Travis can't be bargained with. Travis can't be reasoned with. Travis doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And Travis absolutely will not stop, ever, until your project is dead. 11:49:45 !tell gammafunk Adding BUILD_LIBPNG to the make line doesn't seem to change anything for me, and make TILES=y BUILD_ALL=y also doesn't work for me 11:49:45 alefury: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 11:49:59 alefury: make NO_PKGCONFIG=y TILES=y BUILD_ALL=y 11:50:09 will try 11:50:26 hmmm 11:50:37 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2313-ge5e44e2: try to encourage more consistently-themed spell sets 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 63+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e5e44e2a7b20 11:50:37 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2387-g9985fdb: Merge branch 'master' into randliches 10(66 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9985fdb1d70a 11:50:37 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2388-g59e893f: normalize lich casting frequency 10(60 minutes ago, 3 files, 14+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=59e893f9823c 11:50:37 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2389-geab1a1a: have normalize_spell_freq maintain frequency weighting 10(22 minutes ago, 2 files, 11+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=eab1a1a30544 11:50:37 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2390-gc97cfe6: adjust some spell frequencies 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c97cfe69524a 11:50:39 * Grunt pushes doy. 11:51:01 Grunt: so with your patch, i can get things like goblins and wights to cast refrigeration 11:51:04 but still not liches 11:51:12 I get libpng warnings, something about malformed iTXt chunks 11:51:29 other than that: it at least starts to compile :) 11:51:43 doy: why randliches? 11:51:51 alefury: more fun! 11:51:59 I don't get it 11:52:14 current liches are pretty random, and pretty nice 11:52:43 doy: hm 11:53:23 current liches are not very random at all 11:53:28 I mean, something like "try to encourage more consistently-themed spell sets" seems like it would be much more easily done by just having several fixed spellsets 11:53:38 like the current situation, basically 11:54:11 I agree that it's kind of cool though :) 11:54:20 doy: my liches are refrigerating just fine here 11:54:27 super-old superspellcasters should have a bunch of spells 11:54:43 alefury: yeah, that's kind of the idea 11:54:56 doy: this is with the latest build of the branch 11:54:57 I just don't see how it will improve gameplay 11:55:00 exciting times to crawl 11:55:07 !seen dpeg 11:55:08 I last saw dpeg at Mon Nov 17 17:55:00 2014 UTC (7s ago) saying 'exciting times to crawl' on ##crawl-dev. 11:55:44 Not having any information on what spells a monster might have (in non-extended) is at least new, not sure it's better 11:55:46 alefury: well, right now, you see a lich cast iron shot and you immediately know you have to start preparing for summon greater demon 11:56:10 aren't monster spells shown in descriptions nowadays? 11:56:17 Yes, but liches have multiple sets 11:58:07 Grunt: what is your character like, and how are you creating the lich? 11:58:37 doy: as I said before, your character needs to be non-trivial for liches to consider harming you more than them 11:58:38 oh, there we go 11:58:43 (I think right now you need to be at least XL5 or so) 11:58:55 (if anyone meets a lich before then they deserve to die anyway though) 11:59:37 ohhh 11:59:41 it's because i was a felid 11:59:50 and felids have intrinsic rc+ 11:59:57 mm 12:00:49 oh, they'll also be happier to blast you if you bring allies 12:00:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:01:12 imo get rC+++, and summon a friendly orc warlord band 12:01:13 and try it 12:01:14 :) 12:01:59 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:56 (poor Beoghites) 12:03:23 doy: felids get intrinsic rC+ 12:03:33 but they don't start off with it as far as I remember. 12:03:53 nevermind 12:03:57 They start with it 12:03:58 I am derp. 12:04:03 TZer0: r i p 12:04:45 forgive me, I had my first day of work today :P 12:04:54 ??goodsequell[work 12:04:55 goodsequell[5/10]: work ~ worm[1/3]: A slow-moving monster easy to avoid and outrun. Being killed by it is the definition of ignominy. 12:10:58 03Lasty02 07[no_backtracking_god] * 0.16-a0-2373-g59bf036: Backtracking god initial commit. 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 30+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=59bf0366cac0 12:10:58 03Lasty02 07[no_backtracking_god] * 0.16-a0-2374-g2b8719e: Implement no backtracking * ability: endurance 10(28 minutes ago, 4 files, 69+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b8719e38b79 12:12:16 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:13:05 something theme 12:13:13 It's a powerful theme 12:13:17 " disappears in an immense burst of something" 12:13:40 Lasty: are you building this from scratch, or do you use existing code? 12:13:55 (I think someone went ahead with ideas like this, then stopped.) 12:13:57 dpeg: from scratch. Was there already a backtracking god branch? Did I miss it? 12:14:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:14:16 I don't think there was ever a branch. 12:14:23 no, not a branch in trunk 12:14:46 * Grunt leaves for lunch wondering if the stress test will turn up something soon. 12:15:01 I don't know of anyone actually implementing this, but I could be wrong 12:15:17 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:15:18 also, huh, removes the mp cap 12:16:05 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2378-g6bc3ce6: allow gdb to run automatically on debug builds 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6bc3ce62a0c4 12:16:24 I have two emails about abandoned gods (pubby's and Kerwin's equipment god and Thundamoo's defensive god Rhundival) 12:16:55 <|amethyst> I really like the artefact-making ability of Igni 12:16:55 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:17:07 <|amethyst> even if Igni never goes in, I'd like to see that on somebody 12:17:46 |amethyst: yes, has appeal 12:17:48 <|amethyst> !tell TZer0 go for it---my knowledge of docker and related things is quite limited so I'm not sure how helpful I can be 12:17:48 |amethyst: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 12:19:47 <|amethyst> (FR: Igni-Dithmenos sibling rivalry) 12:19:51 ha! 12:20:01 someone wanted to steal the artefact thing for gozag, to replace duplication 12:20:09 it does synergize very well with "a million shops" 12:20:23 (in terms of finding components) 12:20:27 <|amethyst> would it cost items like Igni's? 12:20:27 <|amethyst> aha 12:20:50 <|amethyst> when that was first suggested, I had thought "but if the costs are all gold it's not as interesting" 12:21:03 of course, gozagites are already going to have a lot of good items, because of all the shops 12:21:05 could be fun anyway 12:21:06 |amethyst: I'll take a look at it, but I'll probably need your help. 12:21:07 TZer0: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:21:12 !messages 12:21:12 (1/1) |amethyst said (3m 21s ago): go for it---my knowledge of docker and related things is quite limited so I'm not sure how helpful I can be 12:21:30 <|amethyst> TZer0: I can definitely help with questions about the config/setup 12:21:44 PleasingFungus: I figure removing the MP cap is something that people ask for a lot, and it synergizes great with a "endurance/more regen/more staying power" ability 12:21:44 <|amethyst> TZer0: but not docker itself :) 12:21:47 foophykins (L16 MuWz) (Elf:3) 12:21:54 <|amethyst> !crashlog foophykins 12:21:55 8. foophykins, XL16 MuWz, T:77137 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/foophykins/crash-foophykins-20141117-182146.txt 12:22:19 <|amethyst> e just keeps finding crashes 12:23:00 crashmaster 12:23:16 poor guy 12:23:34 <|amethyst> oh 12:23:50 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:51 The build was fixed.: (master - 662a9ef #537 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41258821 12:23:51 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 12:24:06 <|amethyst> GGGRRRUUUNNNTTT! 12:24:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:26:34 ? ? ? 12:26:37 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:43 <|amethyst> monster conjure flame without a foe 12:27:50 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:56 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:28:22 |amethyst: I'll try doing it during the weekend or something 12:28:34 -!- link_108 has quit [Client Quit] 12:29:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2379-g409e20e: Don't crash when foeless monsters conjure flames. 10(80 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=409e20e6d208 12:29:54 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:30:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:50 -!- crawlTV_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141110030204]] 12:33:47 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:24 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:35:01 -!- crawlTV has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:35:08 |amethyst: if I can make it work, deployment of new servers will be _fast_ 12:37:59 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:38:55 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:13 -!- HellTiger has quit [Client Quit] 12:43:52 |amethyst: doh x2 12:44:05 |amethyst: clearly my monster spell coding licence should be revoked :( 12:45:54 -!- CKyle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:46:21 I just saw the new list of serves. So good! 12:46:26 *servers 12:46:59 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47:15 !send CXC dpeg 12:47:15 Sending dpeg to CXC. 12:49:45 -!- orbisvicis has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:54:44 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2391-g9712aec: these two spells work now 10(29 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9712aecddd1a 12:54:44 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2392-g318680e: remove a few uninteresting spells 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=318680e72089 12:54:44 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2393-g12a6e81: only try to place ignite poison with other poison spells 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=12a6e81fec02 12:54:44 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2394-g9b6fe57: simplify 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b6fe5781daa 12:56:11 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:57:16 !enslave doy 13:04:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:06:22 wow I just used tmux in tmux without a second thought 13:07:24 <|amethyst> Don't you know you're supposed to alternate layers? 13:07:41 <|amethyst> tmux, screen, tmux, screen, etc 13:07:52 I am a disgrace:( 13:08:02 I guess I should have been 13:08:03 !glasses 13:08:03 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 13:08:05 screened out 13:08:22 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:14:06 oh good I found my iron giant patch 13:14:07 :) 13:14:19 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:15:16 (need to think about his spell set and I still want him to have SPELL_THROW or whatever we called it) 13:15:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:18:10 -!- HellTiger has quit [Client Quit] 13:18:10 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:18:25 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:22:50 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:23:43 I think I'll tune up the iron rod whwen I get home 13:23:51 maybe think about Fulminant targeter 13:24:00 (no I am not at work right now, somehow) 13:24:10 s/targeter/tracer/ 13:24:35 doy: here's the basic idea I'm considering, though I think implementing it would be ugly: 13:24:54 place the explosion in such a way that it covers as many tiles as possible where the target could be in 30 aut 13:25:50 that seems reasonable 13:26:18 and then whenever there is one on the screen, try to stay as far away from the target as possible while also keeping it in between the target and the monster, maybe? 13:26:23 <|amethyst> where "could be" is based on distance and speed only? 13:26:30 yes 13:27:38 hm 13:27:46 I wonder what could get the spell if it works reasonably well 13:27:49 deep elf conjurers 13:27:57 deep elf conjurer (02e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 33-48 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 603 | Sp: b.fire (3d17), b.cold (3d17), b.lightning (3d16), b.draining (3d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:27:57 %??deep elf conjurer 13:28:05 that is a lot of bolts 13:28:23 haha 13:28:58 give them BATTLESPHERE obv 13:29:05 (((give servitor to annihilators))) 13:30:46 !lg * elf:3 recent s=ikiller 13:30:46 1814 games for * (elf:3 recent): 399x a deep elf annihilator, 282x a deep elf master archer, 261x a deep elf demonologist, 253x a deep elf sorcerer, 150x a deep elf blademaster, 118x a deep elf high priest, 99x a deep elf death mage, 30x a crystal guardian, 19x a deep elf conjurer, 16x, 15x a deep elf priest, 13x a deep elf summoner, 10x Mara, 10x Jorgrun, 10x a deep elf knight, 10x Mara (illusion... 13:30:54 not that they need it......... 13:31:02 !lg * elf:1 recent s=ikiller 13:31:03 382 games for * (elf:1 recent): 57x a deep elf conjurer, 49x a deep elf summoner, 28x a deep elf knight, 23x a deep elf priest, 22x a deep elf demonologist, 17x a deep elf mage, 16x a deep elf annihilator, 13x Asterion, 13x a deep elf high priest, 11x, 11x Aizul, 9x Nikola, 9x Azrael, 8x a deep elf sorcerer, 8x a redback, 7x a deep elf fighter, 7x Kirke, 6x a deep elf death mage, 6x Agnes, 6x an o... 13:31:08 the positive of kill is overkill 13:31:24 !learn add dpeg the positive of kill is overkill 13:31:24 dpeg[12/12]: the positive of kill is overkill 13:31:43 (this was support of servitors, just to be clear :) 13:31:49 !lg * recent ckiller=deep_elf_conjurer s=ckaux 13:31:50 157 games for * (recent ckiller=deep_elf_conjurer): 62x bolt of lightning, 31x bolt of negative energy, 31x bolt of cold, 30x bolt of fire, 2x wand of cold, dagger of electrocution 13:31:58 !lg * recent ckiller=deep_elf_annihilator s=ckaux 13:31:58 494 games for * (recent ckiller=deep_elf_annihilator): 205x crystal spear, 143x iron shot, 87x bolt of lightning, 48x poison arrow, 4x long sword, 2x dagger, short sword of flaming, battleaxe of freezing, cutlass, long sword of holy wrath, broad axe of distortion 13:32:08 interesting 13:32:13 <|amethyst> fulminant really needs to be on lone-ish monsters I think 13:32:32 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:09 <|amethyst> otherwise, depending on the tracer, they'll either never cast, or kill friends whenever they do 13:33:54 -!- weezefac_ has quit [] 13:34:22 hmmmm 13:34:31 artefact amulets of regen are still treated as rings 13:34:38 in terms of when you need to take things off 13:34:44 it seems 13:34:52 Tedronai (L8 MiCK) (D:5) 13:34:52 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:35:00 !crash 13:35:00 9979. Tedronai, XL8 MiCK, T:5473 (milestone): http://crawl.xtahua.com/crawl/morgue/Tedronai/crash-Tedronai-20141117-193437.txt 13:35:04 <|amethyst> doy: an old save? 13:35:56 <|amethyst> BEAM_ENSLAVE with no agent() 13:36:33 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:38:17 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:03 Shadowmage952 (L14 FoCK) (Lair:8) 13:42:09 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:42:38 <|amethyst> I bet that's the same one 13:42:42 <|amethyst> !crashlog 13:42:42 9980. Shadowmage952, XL14 FoCK, T:21016 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Shadowmage952/crash-Shadowmage952-20141117-194055.txt 13:44:12 is there already a mantis entry? if so, I'll just add this one to the comments 13:44:29 <|amethyst> there's not, but don't bother 13:44:32 <|amethyst> I'm testing a fix now 13:44:36 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:44:48 oh ok 13:45:21 |amethyst: well, loading from a chardump, which does manual randart building 13:45:25 so there might be bugs there 13:46:00 ??recurse 13:46:01 recurse[1/1]: Property on some artifacts. The item will sometimes recurse itself upon equipping. 13:46:01 but it still seems odd that i could create something that claims to be an amulet and yet tells me that i can only wear two rings at a time when i try to put it on 13:46:08 Sometimes != Always, right? 13:46:18 oops, wrong channel 13:46:40 oh, i think i see 13:46:53 we keep RING_REGENERATION around for old saves 13:48:12 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:49:19 -!- dolemite99 has quit [Client Quit] 13:49:28 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:51:02 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 13:51:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2380-g4766eba: Don't crash when Xom enslaves. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4766eba826dd 13:51:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2381-gbf6b861: Don't crash on redecorative wizmode rockswimmers. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bf6b8611d336 13:51:29 oh hey 13:51:31 I am home 13:51:31 and 13:51:35 I have a segfault in my stress test 13:51:37 let's see what it is 13:52:04 whee 13:52:25 #0 0x00007ffff678687e in ?? () from /lib64/libc.so.6 13:52:26 #1 0x07c92ba2652198ce in ?? () 13:52:28 Backtrace stopped: Cannot access memory at address 0x55a12ba25ade652 13:52:31 thanks gdb!!!!!! 13:52:45 <|amethyst> STACK SMASH! 13:53:05 the last line in the test window, btw, is 13:53:09 Visiting (9) D:4 13:53:20 maybe try it under valgrind 13:53:25 that'll probably take forever though 13:53:46 you could probably shorten it by only running that one test though, maybe 13:53:57 <|amethyst> btw 13:54:23 <|amethyst> maybe it makes sense to pick, log, and use specific seeds for the travis test runs 13:54:33 <|amethyst> that way there's a chance to reproduce it locally 13:54:46 this test is snake-rune.lua 13:54:48 hm 13:54:49 !tell gammafunk make NO_PKGCONFIG=y TILES=y BUILD_ALL=y worked, I'll try with some different stuff instead of BUILD_ALL next time. There are some png errors about bad iTXt data, no idea what that means, but so far I haven't noticed anything weird. 13:54:49 alefury: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 13:54:57 thanks Grunt :) 13:54:59 alefury: that's a libpng thing :) 13:55:03 (the iTXt errors) 13:55:17 what does NO_PKGCONFIG do? 13:55:31 alefury: it doesn't try to use a piece of software to detect package options and sets things up manually instead 13:55:35 |amethyst: they are all run with -seed 1 on travis 13:55:38 <|amethyst> ah 13:55:44 <|amethyst> hm 13:55:52 h m m m m m m m m 13:56:01 <|amethyst> then why do some of them fail only sometimes? 13:56:08 no idea! 13:56:12 ackack (L7 DECK) (D:5) 13:56:13 memory corruption, maybe 13:56:18 !crashlog ackack 13:56:18 15. ackack, XL7 DECK, T:7433 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/ackack/crash-ackack-20141117-195603.txt 13:56:28 good xom effect 13:56:28 <|amethyst> Same 13:56:40 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:57:01 oh no 13:57:06 I bet this one is my fault too 13:57:08 yes 13:57:08 haha, i see, "amulet of foo" is an arbitrary string for randarts 13:57:10 <|amethyst> ??rebuild 13:57:10 rebuild[1/2]: https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ http://crawl.xtahua.com/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Nap Kin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 13:57:10 I know what the crash is 13:57:11 rip 13:57:17 <|amethyst> Grunt: I fixed it already 13:57:17 so i was just creating a ring with the name "amulet of foo" 13:57:19 confusing! 13:57:22 <|amethyst> %git HEAD^ 13:57:22 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2380-g4766eba: Don't crash when Xom enslaves. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4766eba826dd 13:57:27 oh 13:57:27 rip 13:57:36 I go for lunch and so much changes!!! 13:57:38 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:44 <|amethyst> rebuilding cbro and cszo 13:58:01 <|amethyst> and cxc 13:58:02 wow what is the rebuild count so far today 13:58:08 and how many of them are my fault 13:58:09 :( 13:58:16 stop breaking things imo 13:58:20 !break doy 13:58:25 <|amethyst> 00:22:53 < Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2344-g9534a27 (34) 13:58:28 <|amethyst> 00:27:23 < Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2347-ge8e7350 (34) 13:58:31 <|amethyst> 01:12:53 < Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2353-g8fdfa29 (34) 13:58:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2381-gbf6b861 (34) 13:58:34 <|amethyst> 01:36:31 < Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2359-g8020d6e (34) 13:58:37 <|amethyst> 02:23:06 < Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 13:58:40 <|amethyst> 02:26:37 < Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 13:58:43 <|amethyst> 02:27:41 < Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 13:58:46 <|amethyst> 02:36:08 < Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2363-g19e4ded (34) 13:58:49 <|amethyst> 10:51:35 < Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2369-gfc72cfc (34) 13:58:52 <|amethyst> 11:12:45 < Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2371-g662a9ef (34) 13:58:55 <|amethyst> 12:08:54 < Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2372-g37761cc (34) 13:58:58 <|amethyst> 12:10:00 < Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2373-g80e497d (34) 13:59:01 <|amethyst> 12:16:42 < Sizzell> Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 13:59:04 <|amethyst> 12:17:41 < Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 13:59:07 <|amethyst> 12:23:18 < Eksell> Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 13:59:08 That was a rhetorical question ;_; 13:59:10 <|amethyst> 12:27:47 < Rotatell> Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3 (34) 14:01:04 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2381-gbf6b861 (34) 14:02:32 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:51 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:03:50 Shadowmage952 (L15 FoCK) (IceCv) 14:04:34 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:37 <|amethyst> !lm shadowmage952 x=vlong 14:04:37 3406. [2014-11-17 20:03:42] [vlong=0.16-a0-2376-g7c77ec3] Shadowmage952 the Severer (L15 FoCK of Xom) (IceCv) 14:04:51 I hear grunt ruined everything and is fired from the devteam forever 14:04:51 <|amethyst> okay, that should be the last one then 14:04:57 !firestorm PleasingFungus 14:04:58 Grunt points at PleasingFungus and mumbles some strange words. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs PleasingFungus! 14:05:02 :p 14:05:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: no, we're going to promote him to management 14:05:10 ahhhhh 14:05:13 Thus, the @ 14:05:14 :) 14:05:27 a sound and traditional solution. I endorse it. 14:05:49 also, if anyone's interested, I have what seems to be a working implementation of "treat allied kills the same as player kills for piety purposes" 14:05:55 though I need to investigate how confusion interacts 14:05:57 agh brb 14:05:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 14:06:03 <|amethyst> the same, not discounted? 14:06:09 <|amethyst> doh 14:06:10 no discount for piety 14:06:39 He who is not breaking it, has never been a real dev. 14:06:41 <|amethyst> I guess the idea being that it takes longer if you're not helping, so you're already paying piety decay 14:06:42 Pleasingfungus How about the same for experience also? 14:06:58 :x 14:07:03 PF is not here, so I say no. 14:07:09 It's not trivial. 14:07:31 dividing experience by damage encourages weird metagame motivated behaviour 14:07:40 like avoiding ally use to kill trivial monsters 14:07:47 which is actually a large % of monsters 14:07:52 presumably trivial monsters aren't giving that much xp 14:08:01 It adds up 14:08:09 I claim there will be more weird behaviour if ally kills are not penalised in some form. 14:08:17 Like what? 14:08:33 Like feeling it necessary to always have allies on you. 14:08:50 (Yes, the DCSS move towars permanent allies did not help with that.) 14:08:55 -!- dolemite99 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:10:27 Even with experience penalty that is probably optimal play 14:10:44 even worse then! 14:11:06 The only time you don't want your allies is in swamp basically because of confusion/drowning 14:11:16 for beogh. for yred you always want them 14:11:23 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-2381-gbf6b861 (34) 14:11:44 <|amethyst> dpeg: what about permallies granting full XP, and summons working as they currently do? 14:11:46 as far as I am concerned, there must be something that prevents players from using allies all the time (and it shouldn't be "interface is clunky" or "it is so tedious"). xp/2 is crude, but simple and sort-of works. 14:12:02 <|amethyst> dpeg: since permallies are, what, two gods and card 14:12:04 |amethyst: conceptionally, that sounds right 14:12:32 <|amethyst> s/card/a &/ 14:12:54 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:13:38 An idea I have for permanent allies is that they consume a percentage of all gold you find 14:13:46 but i'm not sure it's appropriate for beogh or yred 14:14:04 crawlTV_: that way lies madness 14:14:07 <|amethyst> that would fit with mercenary card, but I'm not sure it needs a nerf 14:14:08 (seriously!) 14:14:10 Or, alternately, they could "steal" a flat percentage of all your experience without the damage division madness 14:14:15 <|amethyst> also, Bribe Branch 14:14:19 which encourages gaming the system 14:14:34 so if you have thema round, they get X% of exp regardless of their contribution 14:14:49 crawlTV_: that might also work, yes 14:14:53 <|amethyst> encourages using them to soften monsters and then telling them to retreat 14:15:04 <|amethyst> if you go by when the XP is received 14:15:10 |amethyst: I assume they also get their xp posthumously :) 14:15:20 <|amethyst> oh 14:15:30 <|amethyst> I guess maybe I misunderstood "if you have them around" 14:15:31 I'm not sure about the coding aspect, but there are conceptual ways around that 14:15:40 crawlTV_: you say "damage division madness"... have you been around when kill-stealing was a thing? 14:15:45 Yes 14:15:48 <|amethyst> should be IMO "if you have a contract active", even if they aren't on the same level 14:15:50 It's still a thing for some gods 14:15:52 afaik 14:15:56 like okawaru and vehumet and others 14:15:57 PF is working on that one 14:16:04 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-2381-gbf6b861 (34) 14:16:12 It's a lot better now but it could be improved 14:16:24 I think just giving them a flat percentage of experience would remove basically all shenanigans 14:17:16 crawlTV_: perhaps. Details are still not obvious. Assume I have used two imps, one canine and five spammals to bring down that orc, over a span of 30 rounds. How much xp do I get? 14:18:29 <|amethyst> oh, I thought crawltv was talking about mercenaries, not summons (it's still an issue, but only in rarer cases like hiring a mercenary in-combat) 14:18:32 I'm not sure of the best way to do it, perhaps it could be adjusted based on the total hit dice of all summons you had on the level 14:19:06 at any time after you sighted the monster 14:19:06 crawlTV_: then we might easily replace one set of madness with another (better?) one 14:19:22 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:22 The build has errored.: (master - 37761cc #538 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41264690 14:19:22 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:19:23 It's always good to upgrade one's madness 14:19:48 I'm not sure summons should work on the same system as permanent allies 14:19:49 <|amethyst> TTRRAAVVIISS!! 14:19:56 No: perfect, good, enemy. 14:20:07 -!- Limulus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:21:00 * dpeg begins his very own private descent into madness by using reverse Polish notation for sentences. 14:22:04 <|amethyst> dpeg: isn't that basically how Irish works? VSO order 14:23:03 <|amethyst> oh, reverse polish 14:23:16 <|amethyst> isn't that German subordinate clauses? 14:24:15 |amethyst: yes! Back in the day, people would (in high literature) end long sentences with a bunch of verbs. Mark Twain makes good fun of it. 14:24:18 dpeg: I actually think just reducing the XP penalty would go a long way 14:24:35 crawlTV_: it would acerbate an existing problem. 14:24:41 especially for temp summons, which have been hit very hard and are now being hit hard again by monster enslavement/inner flame 14:24:41 exacerbate? 14:24:49 yes, exacerbate 14:25:01 I think that summons are really strong. (All forms of allies.0 14:25:29 <|amethyst> (make a player summon spell that gives you a monster with Enslavement) 14:25:41 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:25:46 <|amethyst> Summon Gift That Keeps On Giving 14:29:04 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:29:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:11 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:59 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:00 The build has errored.: (no_backtracking_god - 2b4cfd2 #538 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41264688 14:34:00 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:34:13 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 14:37:17 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:42:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:09 |amethyst Shadow creatures boggarts are better :) 14:47:18 !lg * max=length(kpath) 14:47:20 3765473. Churchmouse the Blademaster (L27 HaWn of Okawaru), blasted by a smoke demon (divine providence) (summoned by a deep elf sorcerer (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist (summoned by a Blue Death (summoned by a deep elf demonologist))))) on Zig:21 on 2011-08-02 13:41:31, with 649571 points after 98719 turns and 13:08:27. 14:48:16 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 14:48:51 !lg * max=length(kpath) kpath~~boggart.*boggart 14:48:51 5. Palyth the Minotaur Porcupine (L21 MiBe of Trog), mangled by a hill giant (a +0,+0 giant club) (summoned by a boggart (summoned by a boggart)) on Vaults:3 on 2011-06-24 02:03:29, with 310668 points after 86718 turns and 5:09:51. 14:50:06 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:51:52 ha 14:52:02 !lg * max=length(kpath) -2 14:52:05 3765483/3765484. sorear the Marksminotaur (L13 MiGl of Yredelemnul), killed by an exploding giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore (created by an active ballistomycete (created by a giant spore)))) on D:11 on 2009-11-23 04:28:29, with 37349 points after 19708 turns and 2:06:31. 14:52:08 <3 14:53:02 hm this fulminant targeter seems to work decently 14:53:03 :) 14:53:33 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:15 hm 14:54:19 !lg * killer~~prism 14:54:21 8. flammie80 the Skirmisher (L7 FoMo), slain by Prisma's ghost in Sewer (sewer_the_crocodile) on 2014-08-31 23:02:40, with 483 points after 3642 turns and 0:10:16. 14:54:23 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:24 The build passed.: (no_backtracking_god - 2b4cfd2 #538 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41264688 14:54:24 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 14:54:25 !lg * killer~~t_prism 14:54:25 !hs * title=Marksminotaur 14:54:25 68. Mouce the Marksminotaur (L21 MiWn of Okawaru), mangled by an azure jelly on Slime:6 on 2009-05-15 20:03:17, with 278538 points after 88608 turns and 10:30:12. 14:54:27 1. doctordoom the Destroyer (L13 DsIE of Gozag), hit from afar by fulminant prism on Lair:6 (basic_altar) on 2014-05-28 22:37:43, with 37298 points after 15518 turns and 1:27:04. 14:54:31 wow 14:54:33 bad death message 14:54:46 !lg * vmsg~~malign 14:54:48 20. eeviac the Reanimator (L9 DrNe of Qazlal), blasted by a deep elf priest (a malign offering) in Bailey (bailey_polearm_3) on 2014-11-13 04:55:33, with 3511 points after 9815 turns and 0:25:26. 14:54:59 I'll need to fix that for this 14:55:00 oh right 14:55:00 <_< 14:55:08 !lg * killer=bennu vmsg~~hit 14:55:08 1. Zig the Metallomancer (L27 HEFi of Cheibriados), hit from afar by bennu on Tomb:3 (tomb_3) on 2014-10-10 15:57:41, with 849993 points after 115965 turns and 4:56:11. 14:55:14 ha 14:56:10 clearly it means "by multiple bennu" 14:56:26 bennu (08b) | Spd: 16 | HD: 14 | HP: 62-92 | AC/EV: 6/16 | Dam: 2708(holy), 1813(drain), 1804(napalm) | evil, see invisible, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(140), 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++ | Vul: 12drown, 08holy | XP: 1286 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:56:26 %??bennu 14:56:31 no beam attacks, right? 14:56:34 I'll slip the fix for this in 14:56:38 i assume it's the explosion 14:56:43 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 14:56:45 yes 14:56:53 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:56:59 need to set an aux_source in the beam setup 14:57:16 !log zig killer=bennu 14:57:16 1. Zig, XL27 HEFi, T:115965: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Zig/morgue-Zig-20141010-155741.txt 14:57:24 Killed by an exploding fulminant prism (67 damage) 14:57:25 ... created by an ancient lich 14:57:26 good 14:57:39 'created' sounds lame 14:57:49 conjured, perhaps 14:57:50 ? 14:57:56 'hexed' 14:57:57 !lg * killer=battlesphere 14:57:58 604. Thiberion the Hoplite (L9 MiFi), hit from afar by a battlesphere (created by SwampDonkey's ghost) on D:8 on 2014-11-17 19:14:09, with 3669 points after 5214 turns and 0:37:53. 14:58:20 conjured fits best for those cases imo 14:58:22 !lg * killer=ball_lightning 14:58:23 422. letownia the Meteorologist (L27 DgWz), killed by an exploding ball lightning (created by the player character) on Tomb:3 (tomb_3) on 2014-11-10 12:51:44, with 708564 points after 110157 turns and 8:59:33. 14:58:24 !lg * ikiller=ghost_crab 14:58:24 9. kekekela the Basher (L10 VSGl of Qazlal), slain by a spectral ogre (called from beyond by a ghost crab) on D:10 on 2014-11-06 01:56:49, with 6419 points after 8539 turns and 0:48:50. 14:58:28 !lg * killer=ball_lightning ikiller=lom_lobon 14:58:29 4. cosmonaut the Halfling Catapult (L27 HaHu of Cheibriados), killed by an exploding ball lightning (created by Lom Lobon) in Pandemonium (lom_lobon) on 2014-11-06 07:47:20, with 735635 points after 82427 turns and 6:04:02. 14:58:38 ball lightning sounds ok with created, since it's more of a real monster 14:59:27 superimposed by an ancient lich! 15:01:15 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:01:32 er 15:01:34 I just found a fun bug 15:01:53 prisms that detonate before charging completely still deal full damage, just less variably 15:02:07 !source mon-death.cc:1225 15:02:07 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-death.cc;hb=HEAD#l1225 15:02:10 er more variably 15:02:18 spot the error 15:05:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:36 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:06:30 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:07:10 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:08:43 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2382-gb7ed869: fix a bad range-based-for conversion 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7ed869b47c5 15:08:43 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2383-g1369609: update for changes in dumpfile format 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 24+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=136960968271 15:08:43 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2384-g2ce803e: also handle shaolin/robustness 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ce803e03c3c 15:10:49 dpeg is correct that summons are currently very strong 15:11:01 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 15:11:11 you can tell, because summon-based chars are competitive with other playstyles despite getting half the xp 15:11:37 I think I'm fairly convinced by the arguments that summons should be balanced in a way that doesn't require the invisible half-xp thing 15:11:55 PleasingFungus: any specific ideas? 15:12:11 I mean, we have lots of ways to balance summon spells 15:12:19 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:28 decrease monster quality, etc 15:12:39 PleasingFungus: this does not address the problem's root! 15:12:42 oh? 15:13:08 having allies on screen is good... doesn't change if the summons are weaker (but probably makes usage more tedious) 15:13:27 ??beam damage 15:13:27 beam damage[1/1]: calcdice_calculator means (B + pow * C / D) damage divided among A identical dice. Die size is rounded up/down at random, weighted by remainder. dicedef_calculator means (A)d(B + pow * C / D) damage. 15:13:50 Grunt: are you sure you're not confusing dicedef_calculator with dice_def? 15:13:54 having allies on screen is good. that is why it takes investment to cast the spells which allow it, and why it takes mp + hunger + turns. 15:13:59 similarly, doing damage to enemies is good. 15:14:09 however, we do not halve xp for conjurations, swords, etc 15:14:26 being half again as good at everything is good. we don't halve xp for being hasted 15:14:27 wheals: oh 15:14:28 wheals: rip 15:14:58 wheals: I swear I did a grep for dice_def and thought "oh, that's wrong" 15:15:29 !learn e beam_damage[1] s/$/ dice_def(A, B) simply means AdB. 15:15:29 beam damage[1/1]: calcdice_calculator means (B + pow * C / D) damage divided among A identical dice. Die size is rounded up/down at random, weighted by remainder. dicedef_calculator means (A)d(B + pow * C / D) damage. dice_def(A, B) simply means AdB. 15:16:35 * Grunt crackles loudly. 15:16:47 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2385-gccbbdab: Targeter for monster Fulminant Prism; some related bug fixes. 10(7 minutes ago, 7 files, 146+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccbbdab81bbe 15:16:50 * Grunt explodes! 15:17:04 !send wheals killed by an exploding bennu 15:17:05 Sending killed by an exploding bennu to wheals. 15:17:09 Grunt: you're never gonna get the Top Remover title at this rate!!!! 15:17:15 also, nice message timing :) 15:17:16 !remove PleasingFungus 15:17:39 okay back to valgrinding for segfaults 15:17:42 crate argues that having summons out with no enemies visible should make them expire very quickly (probably tag them with 'expiring' as with the summon cap); this seems like it would discourage some of the more tedious elements of Optimal Summon Play (keeping up a permanent summon bodyguard); this seems basically feasible and might be worthwhile to implement independent of other summons changes 15:17:49 ; 15:18:11 also, it would be nice if we somehow communicated to players that summons won't attack when (enemies are) out of sight 15:18:29 initfile.cc:1262:26: warning: address of array 'this->colour' will always evaluate to 'true' [-Wpointer-bool-conversion] 15:18:35 Grunt: i thought we tried to discourage grinding 15:18:38 was talking to a new player in the SA thread who thought that summons were awful because hey, he sent them out and ran away and they did no damage!!! and why wouldn't he think that?? 15:18:44 !glaciate wheals 15:18:44 PleasingFungus gestures. PleasingFungus conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs wheals! 15:19:02 (this is compiling with clang) 15:20:00 clang?? 15:20:00 clang 15:20:42 doy: do you think the regen dump load code should be #TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 34? the is_amulet check 15:20:49 meh 15:20:51 haha 15:20:53 fair enough 15:20:58 i'm not very worried about making the dump loading code very robust 15:21:02 wait, actually 15:21:05 that'll break compilation 15:21:07 !send doy fulminant prisms 15:21:07 Sending fulminant prisms to doy. 15:21:08 in 35 15:21:13 it's just a debugging tool anyway 15:21:17 i wouldn't even bother helping loading old ones 15:21:19 since RING_REGENERATION won't exist 15:21:37 just assume that you're loading a dump from this vlong 15:21:41 well 15:21:56 i use it a lot for doing gameplay testing of endgame stuff 15:22:07 having a wider variety of dumps available is nice for that 15:22:15 <|amethyst> hm, what should it do in version 35? 15:22:18 -!- Schizzik has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:22:19 true 15:22:31 <|amethyst> it can't make it into a ring of regen 15:22:36 well, we're breaking save compat, which presumably would also be breaking dump compat 15:22:38 <|amethyst> because as PF points out those won't exist 15:22:49 <|amethyst> I don't know about breaking dump compat 15:22:54 <|amethyst> how do you even check? 15:23:01 i really don't think it's a big deal 15:23:11 this is a very minor edge case feature that's only really useful for devs 15:23:28 well 15:23:41 *something* needs to be done, because it'll break compilation as it currently stands 15:24:10 sure 15:24:14 ok 15:24:16 flip a coin imo 15:24:44 <|amethyst> on it 15:24:59 !coinflip |amethyst 15:25:04 don't ask me what that would do 15:25:32 !cmd !coinflip !rng heads tails 15:25:33 Defined command: !coinflip => !rng heads tails 15:25:36 !coinflip 15:25:36 The RNG chooses: tails. 15:25:37 !coinflip 15:25:38 The RNG chooses: heads. 15:25:39 PleasingFungus: the thing is that you can add summons to very much what you are doing. But I agree with you: it'd be great to balance summons in a way different than xp/2. I just have no ideas. 15:26:06 i'm guessing you guys are aware that xv is a bit weird at the moment? 15:26:14 i'm looking at nergalle and being told "She can attack to ." 15:26:34 may attack, excuse me 15:27:10 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-2386-gc964dc0: don't break compilation when we next bump save compat 10(47 seconds ago, 1 file, 13+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c964dc0238c7 15:27:12 it's on mantis 15:27:17 !blame PleasingFungus 15:27:17 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 15:27:22 (probably) 15:27:26 %git f800d0dd 15:27:26 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2332-gf800d0d: Simplify 10(20 hours ago, 2 files, 11+ 22-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f800d0ddb2b1 15:27:32 wheals: wait, what 15:27:39 oh 15:27:40 she can attack to 15:27:42 oh 15:27:46 that works too 15:28:01 yeah I have that on my todo to investigate. idk if it's my bug but it seems in my bailiwick 15:28:04 <|amethyst> :oh 15:28:07 <|amethyst> I bet that's my bug 15:28:09 yes 15:28:12 it's an |amethyst bug 15:28:30 hm 15:28:35 !bug |amethyst 15:28:35 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=|amethyst 15:28:38 oops 15:28:46 that's like the third time I've done that 15:28:48 ??oops 15:28:49 pleasingfungus[1/14]: oops 15:28:54 ??doh 15:28:54 |amethyst[1/16]: <|amethyst> doh 15:29:02 ??hm 15:29:02 |amethyst[2/16]: <|amethyst> hm 15:29:07 ??that's dumb 15:29:07 gammafunk[6/11]: <|am.ethyst> that's dumb 15:29:11 ??pleasingfungus[8 15:29:11 pleasingfungus[8/14]: ugh 15:29:23 ??mm 15:29:23 I don't have a page labeled mm in my learndb. Did you mean: am, hm, lm, mc, md, mf, mi, mo, mp, mr, mu, om, pm, tm, vm. 15:29:27 ??grunt[mm 15:29:28 grunt[11/27]: !learn add grunt TODO: Find a use for the qbert snake tile 15:29:30 er 15:29:32 not that one!!! 15:29:39 ??grunt[22 15:29:39 grunt[22/27]: mm 15:30:27 mm afunk 15:30:41 The necromancer points at Saint Roka and mumbles some strange words. 15:30:42 Saint Roka is filled with an inner flame. 15:30:46 ahahahahahaha 15:30:50 niiice 15:31:04 (this is HDA's game) 15:31:09 1learn add Grunt !learn add Grunt todo: moth of immolation 15:31:23 ??grunt[explo 15:31:24 grunt[24/27]: do not let design get in the way of more explosions!!!!!!!!!!!! 15:32:02 ??evilmike[expl 15:32:02 evilmike[4/4]: i have a habit of telling people to make things explode 15:32:10 rip evilmike 15:32:18 he still drops in on occasion! 15:33:19 he posts regularly in the sa thread 15:33:23 but not the mainstream one 15:33:29 the hidden one in the forum no one visits 15:33:40 (there are currently three dcss threads on sa that I'm aware of) 15:33:56 -!- johnny0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34:25 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2387-g14feae7: Remove a pointless check (Grunt, clang) 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=14feae71f401 15:34:50 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2388-g8c53b03: Fix empty attack descriptions (doh) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c53b037f8ad 15:35:02 clang?? 15:35:03 clang 15:35:34 /nick doh 15:35:46 useless since 0.3, huh 15:35:50 how many years is that? 15:35:58 <|amethyst> %git 0.3 15:35:58 07greensnark02 * 0.3: Tagging 0.3 release. 10(7 years ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ea486b78e37 15:36:05 nice 15:36:17 <|amethyst> !learn edit gammafunk[6] s/m\.e/me/ 15:36:18 gammafunk[6/11]: <|amethyst> that's dumb 15:36:37 ^git 7e8a32831 15:36:40 er 15:36:43 %git 7e8a32831 15:36:43 07greensnark02 * 0.3-a0-714-g7e8a328: Allow monster symbols to be customised using the mon_glyph option. 10(7 years ago, 11 files, 223+ 73-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e8a32831f88 15:37:05 <|amethyst> ah, there we go... so not just 0.3, but early in 0.3 15:37:11 %git 0.3^ 15:37:11 07greensnark02 * 0.3-a0-1097-g6a1d2a4: Add a disclaimer noting that the changelog is not exhaustive. 10(7 years ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a1d2a446596 15:37:17 not especially early :) 15:37:18 <|amethyst> oh 15:37:33 so how did nobody find it 15:37:34 <|amethyst> I had thought 0.3 was big for some reason 15:37:42 %git 0.2^ 15:37:42 07greensnark02 * 0.2-a0-592-gaf3f079: Tagging for 0.2 release. 10(8 years ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af3f079714cd 15:37:45 <|amethyst> wheals: because it doesn't hurt anything 15:37:49 %git 0.4^ 15:37:49 07jpeg02 * 0.4-a0-4035-g9607503: Apply Darshan's charging fix (r6528). 10(6 years ago, 1 file, 12+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96075036ffd3 15:37:58 0.4 was the big one, apparently :) 15:38:00 i mean, did clang not warn about it before? 15:38:00 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:38:01 (almost typed "bug one") 15:38:10 it hasn't warned for me 15:38:11 wheals: I think I've noticed it before; I just never said anything 15:38:12 :) 15:38:16 I seriously need to figure out how to configure clang, tho 15:38:21 in terms of -w flags 15:38:26 -W? W/E 15:38:42 <|amethyst> wheals: -Whatever 15:38:45 <|amethyst> err 15:38:48 <|amethyst> stupid tab 15:38:49 sounds good 15:38:50 oh, 0.3 was when hill dwarf & elf left 15:38:51 <|amethyst> s/wheals: // 15:38:52 rip 15:38:52 imo 15:39:04 a good version for crawl 15:39:05 imo finish the job 15:39:27 !remove PleasingFungus 15:39:43 ouch! 15:39:48 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40:14 when did grey elf leave? 15:40:18 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:10 grey elf never left us in our hearts 15:41:30 %git a6772d2 15:41:30 07haranp02 * 0.5-a0-2692-ga6772d2: Remove gnomes and grey elves. (Can someone check the tiles compile?) Species-shifts saves. 10(6 years ago, 12 files, 74+ 267-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a6772d2fdc8e 15:41:32 rip 15:41:45 imo bring back gnomes 15:41:48 (that means you wheals) 15:42:04 <|amethyst> I agree, bring back wheals 15:42:18 ophan (05G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 80-117 | AC/EV: 10/10 | 08holy, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), asphyx, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 1404 | Sp: b.fire (3d24) [06!sil], holy flames [06!sil] | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:42:18 %??ophan 15:42:19 unknown monster: "gnome" 15:42:19 %0.14?gnome name:wheals n_rpl 15:42:22 wheals (12g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 15:42:22 %0.13?gnome name:wheals n_rpl 15:42:36 wheals (12g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 15:42:36 <|amethyst> %0.13?gnome name:wheals 15:42:56 <|amethyst> I thought there was one for "wheals the gnome" 15:43:08 |amethyst: what you just did is that 15:43:10 wheals gnome (12g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 15:43:10 %0.13?gnome name:wheals n_adj 15:43:11 |amethyst: it only shows up in game 15:43:13 gnome wheals (12g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 15:43:13 %0.13?gnome name:wheals n_suf 15:43:30 maybe %?? uses the wrong DESC_ 15:43:43 wheals (12g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 15:43:43 %0.13?gnome name:wheals n_the 15:43:47 Species-shifts saves 15:43:49 man 15:43:55 imagine if we could just do that now 15:44:10 <|amethyst> I don't remember, but it's probably DESC_BASENAME or DESC_PLAIN or such 15:44:15 sorry. everyone playing a race with an enum later than halflings, bad luck: 15:44:56 <|amethyst> ah, DESC_PLAIN 15:45:14 should use DESC_THE? 15:45:18 or DESC_A? 15:45:36 <|amethyst> eh, I think PLAIN is better for conciseness 15:45:36 -!- Zilis is now known as Guest64395 15:46:31 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 15:47:04 <|amethyst> could maybe add a desc:the tag or something 15:47:12 <|amethyst> to tell monster to use another 15:49:01 -!- Ratboiler_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:51:05 It makes me sad that monster demonspawn don't grow up 15:51:26 More because I just got one from Mercenary card than for any design reason but still :P 15:53:35 it's a statement about life 15:55:34 That is slanderous; Qetuguo would be mortified 15:56:33 -!- TMTurtle_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:59:35 <|amethyst> FR: rename Sublimation of Blood to "Mortify the Flesh" 16:00:24 gives makhleb piety, clearly 16:00:42 give emos piety 16:02:58 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:03:22 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:08 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:08:58 <|amethyst> Grunt: btw, are you porting these webtiles changes to webtiles-changes? 16:09:13 |amethyst: I don't think there is a conflict with webtiles-changes? 16:09:18 (I'd have to check) 16:09:18 <|amethyst> ah 16:09:32 (I checked before I started and there wasn't one) 16:09:36 <|amethyst> cool 16:09:52 <|amethyst> one of these days I will get a free weekend and get cszo moved over to the webtiles-changes server 16:09:55 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:05 <|amethyst> once all the servers are switched, we can put it in trunk 16:10:10 !send |amethyst a free weekend 16:10:10 Sending a free weekend to |amethyst. 16:10:24 put what in trunk 16:10:29 <|amethyst> webtiles-changes 16:10:32 cool 16:11:56 !tell gammafunk tell me if iron-rod is only acceptably spammy now 16:11:56 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 16:12:03 03Grunt02 07[iron-rod] * 0.16-a0-2392-g0af7081: Merge branch 'master' into iron-rod 10(11 minutes ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0af708159710 16:12:03 03Grunt02 07[iron-rod] * 0.16-a0-2393-g5097a26: Only print_wounds() at the end of a Scattershot. 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 21+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5097a261f865 16:12:03 03Grunt02 07[iron-rod] * 0.16-a0-2394-gca4532a: Cycle through Scattershot beams in a set order. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca4532abfe31 16:12:03 03Grunt02 07[iron-rod] * 0.16-a0-2395-g7b5c984: Suppress miss messages for Scattershot. 10(73 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b5c9848fa05 16:12:31 <|amethyst> What do we want? Acceptible levels of spamminess! When do we want it? Now! 16:12:35 !tell Grunt tell me if gammafunk tells you if iron-rod is only acceptably spammy now 16:12:35 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:13:06 !tell PleasingFungus tell |amethyst if I tell you if gammafunk tells me if iron-rod is only acceptably spammy now 16:13:06 Grunt: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 16:13:40 Grunt: can do :) 16:14:02 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:16:36 I love how this is hilariously useless against Dispater 16:16:39 Dispater (06&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 450 | AC/EV: 40/3 | Dam: 50 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 9455 | Sp: sum.greater demon [06!sil], crystal spear (3d35) [06!sil], iron shot (3d29) [06!sil], hellfire (3d20) [06!sil] | Sz: Large | Int: high. 16:16:39 %??Dispater 16:16:42 40 AC in action....... 16:18:36 hmmm 16:18:49 oh I just noticed a major oversight 16:18:50 i really don't know how to judge the balance of the reworked randliches at all 16:20:35 doy: by putting them in trunk and listening for complaints <_< >_> 16:20:44 1learn add balance 16:20:45 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:21:27 hm 16:21:37 I kind of want to add my/hangedman's ice shrikes now 16:21:53 but we didn't rename caustic shrikes 16:21:55 rip 16:22:06 i mean, liches and ancient liches are a pretty important part of important parts of the game 16:22:20 and so having something be out of balance there is a bit more important 16:22:47 <|amethyst> I don't know, I think bad early D to Lair is worse because it affects more people :) 16:23:08 03Grunt02 07[iron-rod] * 0.16-a0-2396-gfdf9441: Let monsters use the iron rod properly. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdf94418d94e 16:23:13 true 16:23:25 Welcome to the Dungeon! Sigmund shouts! 16:23:51 <|amethyst> Sigmund shouts, "Welcome to the Dungeon! We've got fun and games!" 16:24:31 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:31 The build has errored.: (master - c6b35ec #540 : Nicholas Feinberg): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41267320 16:24:31 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 16:24:43 oh, come on, travis. 16:24:46 don't be like that. 16:25:23 Grunt: how is that valgrinding going? 16:26:26 -!- CcS has quit [] 16:27:22 doy: it's turning up nothing 16:27:23 rip 16:28:39 well, valgrind is going to be like 10x slower or so than gdb 16:28:45 so not incredibly surprising 16:28:55 also, it won't catch stack issues 16:29:26 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:29:57 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:30:06 <|amethyst> Grunt: hm, it feels like the prism lasts one turn too few 16:30:16 <|amethyst> Grunt: probably it's getting a turn between the caster and you 16:30:37 <|amethyst> Grunt: also, the caster seems to be blowing themselves up quite frequently 16:30:42 <|amethyst> (usually getting me, too) 16:30:45 doy: is the change just liches with random spellsets? 16:31:00 |amethyst: completely worth it in the latter case...... 16:31:02 <|amethyst> Grunt: maybe it should give extra weight to the far side of the foe? 16:31:04 ackack: yeah, but the randomization is pretty extensive 16:31:20 lich (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 61-96 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2795 | Sp: b.cold (3d29), paralyse, sum.greater demon, animate dead, iron shot (3d34), teleport self [04emergency] / b.corrosive (3d23), slow, invisibility, throw icicle (3d29), crystal spear (3d40) / b.fire (3d29), confuse, haste, b.draining (3d27), sum.greater demon, banishment [04emergency] / mystic blast (3d24), b.cold (3d29), invisibility, animate dead, o.destruction (9d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 16:31:20 %??lich 16:31:41 |amethyst: yeah, that's why i suggested a separate behavior for when a prism is on the screen where the monster tries to get away from the prism, while keeping it in between you and itself 16:31:55 My gut instinct is something like what doy is suggesting. 16:31:59 wouldn't this make liches possibly weaker or nastier? 16:32:16 Lightli: yes that seems to cover the possibilities 16:32:25 or they could 16:32:26 you know 16:32:30 be roughly the same threat level 16:32:33 that's also a possibility 16:32:34 :) 16:32:35 yes 16:32:46 <|amethyst> or possibly they will crash on generation 16:32:50 haha 16:32:55 so many possibilities 16:32:57 or spawn friendly 16:33:05 anyway my feeling is that unless you weight the spells in particular ways 16:33:21 that most random spellsets would probably be slightly easier 16:33:23 well, i'm obviously doing that 16:33:30 it's just hard to tell how much weighting is necessary 16:33:48 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:34:28 Paralysis + LCS spam clearly 16:34:44 maybe i'll see if i can write up something to generate a bunch of liches and dump their spell sets somewhere 16:34:51 that would be good 16:35:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36:15 things like animate dead and the hexes (not always but probably the majority of characters can have enough mr for these to be unimportant) seem like they dilute the nasty spells 16:37:16 will any other gods lose corpse sacrificing? lugonu, makhleb? I think the last time I saw discussion on this, people were supportive of trog keeping it 16:38:17 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:38:27 <|amethyst> trog should switch to fedhas-style sacrifice if e keeps it 16:38:43 yeah 16:38:47 <|amethyst> chop what you want, sac the rest 16:39:19 <|amethyst> fedhas presumably keeps it 16:39:38 <|amethyst> or gets some other way to produce fungi 16:39:47 <|amethyst> and gain piety 16:39:48 I think fedhas is good and cool. 16:39:52 fedhas has a lot of stuff going on with corpses. 16:39:55 the praying thing, the spore thing. 16:40:08 the hating necromancy thing. 16:40:08 the oklob thing 16:40:09 imo 16:40:10 you know. 16:40:15 <|amethyst> the conduct thing 16:40:15 are oklobs really a corpse thing 16:40:21 they aren't 16:40:23 I guess they make corpses 16:40:24 PleasingFungus: they turn things into corpses 16:40:25 except that you need piety 16:40:25 <|amethyst> they make them 16:40:26 bah 16:40:28 <|amethyst> doh 16:40:29 hahaha 16:40:32 victory 16:41:51 <3 16:42:18 anyway, maybe I'll implement the trog mass sacrifice thing if no one else does. 16:42:23 idk. could be fun. 16:42:48 Lugonu may dispense with corpse sacrificing if we're lucky. 16:43:00 *in 0.16* 16:43:07 <|amethyst> lugonu already has corpse sac separately 16:43:12 <|amethyst> because of banishment and disto 16:43:24 separately? 16:43:32 <|amethyst> other than p 16:43:38 <|amethyst> Lugonu causes you to have fewer corpses 16:44:02 <|amethyst> or at least gives you options that leave you with fewer corpses 16:44:54 true, but I hope Lasty powers through and remove L saccing nonetheless :) 16:45:02 <|amethyst> right, right 16:45:25 Sacrifice Lasty 16:45:30 <|amethyst> I mean you can just remove corpse sac, give a little extra piety for banishing (that's your corpse sac) and be done with it 16:46:05 |amethyst: potentially problematic to have powers that cost and yield piety 16:46:53 in practice that implementation would mean banish costs more piety on a failure, less on a success 16:47:02 <|amethyst> yeah 16:47:09 <|amethyst> so you're rewarded for knowing your limits 16:47:28 dpeg: well, they exist 16:47:41 PleasingFungus: I know, I came up with some of them 16:47:45 heh 16:48:07 (E pacification is notorious) 16:48:20 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:20 <|amethyst> I was also thinking piety for banishment-through-disto 16:48:30 <|amethyst> which doesn't cost piety 16:48:54 |amethyst: I am hoping for additional L piety through altar desecration. Some nice, family-friendly flavour! 16:49:01 that'd tie in nicely with the disto gift I think. become champion of lugonu, and you can generate piety through your brand, freeing you up to use your abilities much more liberally 16:49:02 "As advertised in Utah!" 16:49:40 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:49:43 isn't it already the case that you get piety for disto banishment under lugonu? 16:50:03 <|amethyst> I believe so 16:50:10 <|amethyst> I was thinking more piety for that than for killing 16:50:14 gotcha 16:50:16 <|amethyst> Lugonu would rather get them fresh 16:50:22 <|amethyst> while they can still scream 16:50:40 spooky 16:50:43 apparently you can hear that in the abyss 16:50:45 I think of the Abyss as Lugonu's power reservoir, so it actually makes sense. 16:50:57 ackack: it's not a vacuum!!! 16:51:01 <|amethyst> s/Abyss/Matrix/ 16:51:18 You are cast into the Abyss! Your lungs strain for air! 16:51:20 proof: player characters would otherwise asphyxiate in the Abyss! 16:51:29 PleasingFungus: no abyss is a vacuum, but it's a Hollywood vacuum 16:51:29 gammafunk: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:51:33 it's kind of weird that aks are weakest in the abyss 16:51:43 how do you figure? 16:51:46 banish still works there 16:51:47 so the hero can ride the rocket ship and fight off the aliens in the abyss and you hear all the explosions 16:51:49 well, they can't get piety there 16:51:52 PleasingFungus: they can go in and out at will 16:52:00 they're the best at getting in and out, yes 16:52:01 yes 16:52:02 but once they're there 16:52:09 they're relatively weak 16:52:17 being able to leave a dangerous situation immediately (and abyss > out is much less costly) is a pretty valuable ability 16:52:19 once again I have 5 pages of lore about abyssal rocket ship battles 16:52:27 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because Lugonu isn't going to give you piety for sitting around being a battery 16:52:29 PleasingFungus: their job is to provide the Abyss with fresh flesh (and later to desecrate altars), not to dawdle at Corruption HQ. 16:52:41 ya obviously there's theme reasons 16:52:58 <|amethyst> they do have some advantages in Abyss 16:53:05 <|amethyst> mostly needing to be there less though 16:53:05 -!- myfreeweb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:53:11 <|amethyst> (faster rune, etc) 16:53:43 Grunt: I saw your webtiles commit! Crazy! Good! 16:53:44 dpeg: While I support removing more corpse sacrifices, I haven't been the one implementing it. I think maybe it was reaverb? 16:53:51 !send gammafunk craziness 16:53:51 Sending craziness to gammafunk. 16:53:56 Lasty: true! 16:54:02 I probably should set up an android test thingy 16:54:19 Grunt: on ubuntu, what's the best way for me to test/compile android? 16:54:28 gammafunk: let me investigate 16:54:36 virtualbox? 16:54:46 gammafunk: you should be able to do it natively 16:54:51 hrm 16:54:57 Lasty only adds more sacrifices 16:55:12 well it's true after all, android is linux 16:55:29 <|amethyst> Lasty: Sacrifice Hope: you cannot pick up orbs 16:55:46 <|amethyst> perfect for the zigrunner 16:56:04 bad if orbs includes cboe 16:56:05 gammafunk: oh, this looks like a decent guide 16:56:09 http://www.unixmen.com/install-android-sdk-ubuntu-14-04/ 16:56:13 unix men 16:56:18 <|amethyst> gammafunk: just orbs of power 16:56:23 http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-17ITPrcwyK-lich.txt http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-17q5iijZrA-ancient-lich.txt 16:56:25 fr make cboe OBJ_ORBS 16:56:32 ! 16:56:35 that's a random sample of 100 spell lists for liches and ancient liches 16:56:38 thoughts? 16:56:55 Grunt: neat, thanks. I'll look into testing it out later on this week or something 16:57:11 someone commit in the next 47 minutes please, so I can test my new webtiles-changes rebuilder 16:57:30 do we have to commit to webtiles-changes? 16:57:30 |amethyst: I already have an unimplemented_sacrifices entry on learndb. Now I need a never-to-be-implemented sacrifices one. 16:57:31 doy: maybe that would be readable as a graph 16:57:37 since it's a weee bit behind master atm 16:57:52 gammafunk: sorry no, just trunk 16:58:09 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:58:14 (I can actually wait, but if you were sitting on something...) 16:58:18 chequers: do you have a think for turning a git branch into a playable branch without a full server restart? 16:58:20 chequers: maybe, although it'd be useful to look at the sets as sets i think 16:58:38 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:41 not sure how i can usefully make it a graph and still provide that sort of information 16:58:48 <|amethyst> gammafunk: webtiles-changes does that 16:58:48 e.g. a script that could be http-accessible and you choose a branch, submit, and *bam* it's playable 16:58:51 <|amethyst> ohh 16:58:53 |amethyst: oh really, there's an interface? 16:59:02 <|amethyst> gammafunk: no, I mean you don't need a restart 16:59:06 yeah 16:59:18 yeah I mean the actual setup as well, although, that could be problematic to generalize I guess 16:59:31 <|amethyst> at one point I was working on a template system 16:59:44 gammafunk: i don't have that right *now*, but the script I've written supports it with minimal extension 16:59:49 |amethyst: with like a webtiles-conf.d directory or something? 16:59:57 I'm pretty sure |amethyst's dgamelaunch manager does too though 17:00:13 ah, a conf.d is the patch I've just written for webtiles-changes :) 17:00:28 <|amethyst> gammafunk: more like dgamelaunch.conf and config.py and the rebuild CGI all being created from the same config 17:00:28 ??sdl2 17:00:28 sdl2[1/2]: TODO: zooming (base initial scale on display density), refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework 17:00:31 ??sdl2[2 17:00:31 sdl2[2/2]: Android: stack traces?; watch for more crashes (possibly map-related) 17:00:34 right now you have to template the entire config file, which is what I do for dgamelaunch.conf 17:00:34 chequers: yeah there's the dir but we need an http interface 17:00:55 gammafunk: yeah, once I'm sure this script is solid I'll write a little something up 17:00:56 |amethyst: ah yeah, dgamelaunch.conf, right 17:00:56 !learn edit sdl2[2] s/stack/update version in application manifest automagically; x86 compilation? (fix SDL_image's libjpeg to work properly), stack/ 17:00:57 sdl2[2/2]: Android: update version in application manifest automagically; x86 compilation? (fix SDL_image's libjpeg to work properly), stack traces?; watch for more crashes (possibly map-related) 17:01:00 ! 17:01:12 <|amethyst> gammafunk: there's also other stuff that needs to happen 17:01:26 sequell? 17:01:41 Sequell?? 17:01:41 Grunt: The ##crawl bot, handling game statistics, the {learndb}, and more. Operated by greensnark. See http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md If you want the source, go here: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell 17:01:42 related question: will sequell be able to ignore the games, or do i need to write saves & logs to somewhere else / dev/null? 17:01:53 for random branch builds 17:02:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: directories created and chowned, milestones linked into a web-facing dir, ... 17:02:03 sequell will only look for logs it knows about afaik 17:02:10 <|amethyst> chequers: they should go to a different file 17:02:39 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:02:48 yeah sorry, I assume you're not putting them in the same file as a tracked version 17:02:55 <|amethyst> chequers: and crawl *should* set "explbr" field in the milestones/logs 17:03:12 makes sense 17:03:20 <|amethyst> chequers: however, you should post those... sequell tracks most experimental branches 17:03:36 <|amethyst> !lg * / experimental s=cv 17:03:40 17173/3765782 games for *: 6032/263043x 0.15-a [2.29%], 4811/366493x 0.14-a [1.31%], 2667/101626x 0.8-a [2.62%], 2240/260893x 0.13-a [0.86%], 946/206044x 0.12-a [0.46%], 477/122019x 0.16-a [0.39%], 0/139318x 0.13 [0.00%], 0/89914x 0.11-a [0.00%], 0/78899x 0.10-a [0.00%], 0/106202x 0.6 [0.00%], 0/112169x 0.12 [0.00%], 0/49347x 0.9-a [0.00%], 0/137988x 0.14 [0.00%], 0/84396x 0.3 [0.00%], 0/144721x 0... 17:03:43 here's the conf.d patch btw, I hope to land it in webtiles-changes within weeks: https://github.com/alexjurkiewicz/crawl/commit/c6bd54f872dcc7f20c6a98599f49b8bbdc214429 17:03:46 yeah I guess we'd track anything that's actually a git branch of some kind? 17:03:52 in our repo, that is 17:04:32 <|amethyst> gammafunk: well, maybe if one is putting together a deployment interface that should be a checkbox 17:04:33 !lg * experimental s=explbr 17:04:33 17173 games for * (experimental): 11627x, 1548x iashol, 1419x smithgod rebased, 1072x chunkless, 597x gods, 416x weightless, 218x plutonians, 174x new nemelex, 90x salamander, 12x cards 17:04:44 you can even track local modifications, just see if the index is dirty during build 17:04:53 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:08 <|amethyst> gammafunk: (there's no automated way to inform sequell now, but I think if the servers each publish a yml or such, sequell could handle it 17:05:11 <|amethyst> ) 17:05:36 that's a nice idea 17:05:41 <|amethyst> (with a bit of work) 17:06:10 while we're on the subject, can I re-raise the idea of getting dcss to not write this data to a flat file? 17:06:22 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:06:27 <|amethyst> it's not a flat file 17:06:35 milestones isnt? 17:06:40 <|amethyst> oh 17:06:57 <|amethyst> sorry, I read "this data" as "game data" and thought you meant saves :) 17:07:31 <|amethyst> hm 17:07:35 hehe, nah that's mostly fine 17:07:55 <|amethyst> milestones in sqlite3 would be nice 17:07:57 <|amethyst> but 17:07:58 for milestones, a simple approach would be to allow writing to a socket, fifo or even pipe to a process 17:08:10 that way we can build whatever backend we want without further modification of dcss 17:08:13 <|amethyst> oh 17:08:17 %git iron-rod 17:08:17 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2396-gfdf9441: Let monsters use the iron rod properly. 10(49 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fdf94418d94e 17:08:19 <|amethyst> you can probably do that now 17:08:23 <|amethyst> with a fifo 17:08:23 %git iron-rod^1 17:08:23 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2395-g7b5c984: Suppress miss messages for Scattershot. 10(58 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b5c9848fa05 17:08:29 %git iron-rod^2 17:08:29 Could not find commit iron-rod^2 (git returned 128) 17:08:33 that's true 17:08:33 %git iron-rod~2 17:08:34 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2394-gca4532a: Cycle through Scattershot beams in a set order. 10(60 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca4532abfe31 17:08:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:08:58 <|amethyst> or with a pipe if you use bash 17:09:07 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: bbl] 17:09:10 <|amethyst> hm 17:09:22 <|amethyst> oh, no, you can't specify milestone files on the command line 17:09:31 <|amethyst> so it would have to be a fifo 17:10:10 being able to tell dcss to write to a process would be nicer, since dcss can handle blocking then, but this is a nice first step 17:10:29 i might look into writing to a fifo and returning a subset of data to Sequell 17:10:38 <|amethyst> what if it does block? 17:11:01 -!- Ashe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:11:13 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:11:24 well, say there's no reader on the fifo. wouldn't dcss block on the write indefinitely? 17:11:54 <|amethyst> yeah, same for a pipe 17:12:07 <|amethyst> would need to handle it in either case 17:12:22 true, but if dcss is responsible for spawning the child process, at least it's running :) 17:12:25 <|amethyst> (same can happen on the file now if it's on NFS or a bad disk, of course) 17:12:40 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:12:52 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:12:53 <|amethyst> until it gets a sigpipe 17:13:11 yeah 17:13:14 -!- JuicyPear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:13:14 <|amethyst> I could see making webtiles server responsible for that 17:13:19 <|amethyst> and using a fifo or socket 17:13:32 hmmm, one thing i should do is work on that distribution 17:13:33 but food for thought. i don't know C++ well enough to go about writing the DCSS side, but I'm definitely capable of writing the rest 17:13:39 <|amethyst> but that doesn't help for dgl 17:13:49 everyone should use tiles anyway :P 17:14:14 blasphemy! 17:15:16 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-2388-g8c53b03 (34) 17:15:27 :) 17:18:00 obviously the only way to play crawl is via iPhone ssh 17:18:03 http://m.imgur.com/zcAbA5P 17:18:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:19:09 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:20:34 it seems like that might be slightly impractical. 17:21:36 yeah, i usually find iphone telnet works out better 17:22:35 what's the plan with He 17:22:37 * Grunt evokes his rod. The burst of metal fragments hits gammafunk!! x21 17:22:45 The apparition of silentsnack the Skirmisher, an experienced Octopode Wanderer 17:22:45 of Ru. ... It may attack to . 17:22:53 magicpoints: known and fixed 17:23:00 nvm then 17:23:15 It may attack to 17:23:17 Is this Angband 17:23:26 <|amethyst> It may attack, too. 17:23:50 <|amethyst> crawl has always been heavily influenced by angband 17:23:54 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:54 The build was broken.: (master - 52119e6 #541 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41267937 17:23:54 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:23:59 <|amethyst> or at least since the first devteam 17:24:05 wuh oh 17:24:30 what'd I do 17:24:32 not iPhone, android! http://i.imgur.com/G4Uh29B.png 17:24:38 Lightli: undecided, perhaps nothing. 17:24:43 <|amethyst> "could not find feature '.' to replace" 17:24:51 k 17:24:58 <|amethyst> on one builddb out of 16 17:25:32 <|amethyst> oh 17:25:33 oh, huh 17:25:36 <|amethyst> %git 52119e6 17:25:37 07Lasty02 * 0.16-a0-2375-g52119e6: Prevent undeclared variable warnings. 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52119e6b3557 17:26:08 <|amethyst> %git ee7d12e6 17:26:10 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2377-gee7d12e: Paper over a layout_big_octagon issue (#9174). 10(6 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee7d12e6952c 17:26:25 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:49 <|amethyst> just hasn't caught up yet 17:27:07 i thought the influence went back to linley 17:27:18 but otoh i have no idea how much actually goes back to linley 17:27:54 <|amethyst> it may 17:28:36 <|amethyst> the item model for example is very similar 17:28:48 <|amethyst> or at least was 17:29:07 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29:16 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2395-gaadc3f6: remove bias toward multi-school spells 10(45 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aadc3f62f801 17:29:18 do I understand correctly that Crawl development has become more professional in the last few weeks? 17:29:18 <|amethyst> with plus/plus2, "ego"s and "brand"s, randarts/unrands 17:29:30 <|amethyst> dpeg: blame doy! 17:29:33 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:30:00 |amethyst: I am afraid he is not the only into professionalisation!!! 17:31:20 well, we have travis now 17:31:27 actually, we just removed a profession 17:31:28 professional is still a strong term 17:31:39 !xxx wheals 17:31:39 PleasingFungus gestures. 9 tentacled monstrosities appear! The tentacled monstrosity tentacle-slaps wheals! x9 17:31:41 <|amethyst> "more professional" is not a strong term :) 17:31:47 peh. 17:31:56 <|amethyst> for any epsilon greater than zero... 17:32:00 -!- heteroy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:32:32 <|amethyst> wheals has a point 17:32:37 <|amethyst> replace DK with Code Knight 17:32:54 finally we have room for code knight 17:32:55 <|amethyst> worshippers of Plog the demon-god of game design 17:33:05 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 17:33:24 Plog is a panlord 17:33:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:31 or possibly a Hellbinder or Cloud Mage 17:33:36 fr bring back Plog for the tutorial 17:33:38 <|amethyst> Grunt: didn't Nemelex use to be a pan lord? 17:33:50 |amethyst: so did Okawaru and Kiku and Sif 17:33:54 <|amethyst> there you go 17:34:07 <|amethyst> Plog finally got promoted too, after all these years 17:34:11 (one of these days I will find the code for those version of crawl) 17:34:17 (I fear they have been lost to the time abyss though) 17:34:31 <|amethyst> Grunt: what versions were these? 17:34:38 |amethyst: the early 2.xx series 17:34:43 |amethyst: before 2.70 17:35:34 <|amethyst> ah, and we have nothing between 1.1 and 2.70 I guess 17:36:00 yes :( 17:37:15 do we have 1.1? 17:37:18 yes 17:37:25 ! 17:37:28 this is how I was able to do 1.1 ddoor for nostalgia <3 17:37:41 <|amethyst> we have: 17:39:17 <|amethyst> 1.1, 2.70, 2.72, 2.72-lnx, 2.80, 2.81, 2.82, 3.01, 3.02, 3.20, 3.30, 3.31beta{01..09}, 3.40, 4.00beta* up to b26, 4.1.2alpha 17:39:29 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:39:43 <|amethyst> and several monthly to biweekly snapshots between 3.40 and 4.00beta01 17:40:09 <|amethyst> (with a gap from march 6 to june 19 2000) 17:40:34 was 1.1 for windows? 17:40:37 I wonder about that -lnx 17:41:18 http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-179cjM7svI-lich.txt http://paste.tozt.net/2014-11-17vGVW4p28-ancient-lich.txt alright, now without the dumb probability errors 17:41:30 dos i think 17:43:16 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think up to at least 2.72 was officially built for Windows only; -lnx is the linux port, but it's really not a huge change 17:43:20 <|amethyst> 8 files changed, 276 insertions(+), 205 deletions(-) 17:43:23 heh 17:43:30 <|amethyst> if it's DOS it's DOS with an extender like mingw 17:44:10 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:44:32 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2396-gb7f8095: remove bias against air spells 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b7f80951d599 17:46:39 !bias doy 17:46:42 so much bias... 17:46:48 tick 17:47:22 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:47:29 tock 17:47:29 randliches, just when the players thought we didn't hate them 17:47:50 players ever thought that? 17:48:19 // Yes, we really hate players, damn their guts! 17:48:54 I nerfed shrikes just to get players off guard 17:49:12 tomorrow around 4 am comes the massive shrike buff along with pushing them to every spawn list. 17:49:14 certain cloud types do more damage to monsters than players, i i r c 17:49:17 er 17:49:20 more to players than monsters* 17:49:33 Lasty: Welcome to the dungeon! The caustic shrike gives a hideous shriek! 17:49:48 Grunt: Do we really want to wait that long? 17:52:42 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:55 Player-killing measures should never be unduly delayed. We owe it to them! 17:53:05 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:28 lets just add it to the character selection menu: select species, background, weapon, killer. The list is gnoll w/ halberd of distortion, sigmund, randlich, caustic shrike. 17:54:05 and "viable", of course 17:54:16 lol, of course 17:56:22 Did removing the priest flag on enemies buff antimagic 17:56:53 tabstorm: no 17:57:07 it didn't nerf it either though 17:57:14 !nerf wheals 17:57:15 * Sequell nerfs wheals!!! 17:57:35 Oh wait now we have !AM as a thing instead so it dosen't change anything 17:57:36 I forgot 17:58:35 -!- orbisvicis has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:01:17 -!- Textmode has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:36 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 18:04:02 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:06:04 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:48 hm 18:06:54 can we give draconian scorchers inner flame 18:07:01 double team with shifters....... 18:07:30 The hell beast rumbles, "I will feast on thy gizzard!" 18:07:36 How does inner flame play as a monster spell? 18:07:59 reaverb: go meet a necromancer and report back to us :) 18:08:08 %git salamander 18:08:08 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2040-g47efe85: Salamanders as a player race. 10(6 weeks ago, 34 files, 281+ 77-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=47efe851d823 18:08:21 %git gozagfood 18:08:21 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2073-g3c55ad7: Remove porridge 10(6 days ago, 21 files, 41+ 55-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3c55ad7d3bf2 18:08:35 we landed gozagfood, didn't we? 18:08:39 %git HEAD^{/porridge} 18:08:39 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2090-gca3af43: Remove porridge 10(6 days ago, 21 files, 41+ 55-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca3af43a8e8f 18:08:40 we did. 18:09:38 -!- honeybadger has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:10:09 * Grunt gestures. The burst of metal fragments hits PleasingFungus. x21 18:10:11 just checking order 18:10:25 !send wheals order 18:10:25 Sending order to wheals. 18:10:33 !send Grunt the lajatang of order 18:10:33 Sending the lajatang of order to Grunt. 18:10:39 !send Grunt the holy armour of zin 18:10:39 Sending the holy armour of zin to Grunt. 18:10:44 !send wheals the +7 Lajatang of Order {silver, rMut} 18:10:44 Sending the +7 Lajatang of Order {silver, rMut} to wheals. 18:10:50 wheals: did we add that back in yet? 18:10:59 %git HEAD^{/Zin} 18:10:59 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2236-g6d12054: Re-add Zin's old ATTACK_NEUTRAL conduct 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d12054b0b9e 18:11:02 %git HEAD^{/of Zin} 18:11:02 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-2177-gb1e1a35: Remove did_god_conduct's return value 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 27+ 95-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1e1a3503693 18:11:18 Grunt: iirc yes 18:11:27 -!- EpicMemes has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:11:29 %git :/rMut 18:11:29 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1725-g379d536: Make Lajatang of Order read {silver, rMut} again (ChrisOelmueller). 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=379d536075e4 18:11:36 ^ that? 18:11:37 PleasingFungus: I mean 18:11:38 :) 18:11:41 PleasingFungus: the holy armour of Zin 18:11:43 o 18:11:46 %git HEAD^{/armour of Zin} 18:11:47 Could not find commit HEAD^{/armour of Zin} (git returned 128) 18:11:50 hm 18:11:57 it's still on the devwiki artefact proposal page 18:12:04 "bring it back!!!" 18:13:08 +6 Holy Armour of Zin (Plate Armour), {rN++ Str+3 MR}. Why was this removed? It's not brokenly powerful, and I think good god-themed unrands are a nice idea. Having the unique rN++ is a nice, and with the MR makes it decidedly superior to a mundane branded plate mail, though probably inferior to PDA. -IonFrigate 18:13:57 %git 1326ea6 18:13:57 07jpeg02 * 0.4-a0-1955-g1326ea6: Make randarts with the CURSED property recurse themselves with 1/3 chance when equipped, as was claimed in unrand.h. 10(7 years ago, 7 files, 70+ 49-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1326ea6a6d34 18:14:13 aww, jpeg's first tile <3 18:14:22 are we still using it, I wonder? 18:14:28 alas, no. 18:14:33 sounds like this was from when we had a limited number of unrand slots 18:14:56 - // Holy Armour of Zin 18:14:56 - case 6: return TILEP_BODY_ARMOR_MUMMY; 18:15:03 wait, the holy armour of zin was *gold*, not silver? 18:15:03 that's so fucked up. 18:15:04 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:15:15 clearly make it silver 18:15:16 rMut 18:15:23 imo the laj already exists 18:15:26 equal bonus to Str/Dex/Wiz 18:15:34 rPois 18:15:36 hm 18:15:37 I'd rather make the holy armour of ely or something 18:15:40 rip 18:15:44 since i think that's a conceptual space that's less explored 18:16:08 an invocations power enhancer could be cool 18:16:45 only if I can make my ring of the Artificer or whatever we're going to call it 18:17:03 PleasingFungus: and clearly an invocations enhancer is going to be a cap or hat or something along those lines 18:17:06 PleasingFungus: or maybe a robe 18:17:20 we already have like a million cap unrands 18:17:21 PleasingFungus: oh, a ceremonial mask would work too 18:17:23 but 18:17:24 rip 18:17:30 on the other hand 18:17:34 we could replace the robe of augmentation 18:17:44 to conserve our limited # of unrand slots :) 18:17:48 <_< 18:17:59 idk how many invo characters are really robes guys 18:18:12 I get the feeling that invocation is more of a heavy armour character's game 18:18:20 by and large 18:19:13 armour of the Doom Knight 18:20:23 -Cast, rN++, invocations enhancer 18:20:52 oh that reminds me 18:20:57 when can we get a spiked plate armour unrand 18:20:58 <3 18:21:07 are spikes cool 18:21:24 they're evil!!! 18:21:32 demon armour 18:21:37 obsidian plate armour 18:21:56 the description will contain "menaces with" 18:22:30 eoc made a patch for zinarmour but it 404's now 18:22:32 -!- PsyMar has quit [Quit: "What happens if you die in reality?" "You die, stupid. That's why it's called reality."] 18:22:35 rip 18:22:35 rip 18:22:42 imo !tell him to dig it up 18:22:46 so we can reject it 18:25:22 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:27:06 since when is swamp full of swamp dragons? 18:27:21 I saw about 5 in two floors 18:27:24 alefury: which level? Also welcome back! 18:27:31 hi 18:27:39 level 1 and 2 18:27:49 I don't think we've touched swamp monster weights in a while? 18:27:51 I haven't been to swamp in a while, so maybe its normal now 18:28:10 I just remember them being kind of rare, so I was surprised 18:29:00 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:29:19 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:30:04 I remember them always being pretty common 18:30:05 idk 18:30:17 hm, okay 18:30:26 MiFi of Quazlal is weird btw 18:30:41 wasn't one of the old playing tips to skin an early Swamp dragon? 18:30:53 I just wanted to see if my build is okay despite the png errors, playing as recklessly as possible, and I'm still alive 18:30:55 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:07 I just o tab o tab o tab o, everything 18:31:22 its really kind of silly 18:31:41 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:32:22 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:32:44 sounds like mifi 18:32:46 haha 18:32:47 to me 18:33:43 minotaurs are decent at melee 18:33:50 1learn add protip 18:33:57 well yeah it does sound like mifi 18:34:08 Does this commit look like a code improvement? https://bpaste.net/show/00e5b0322192 18:34:09 Still, with Quazlal you usually have to retreat sometimes 18:34:18 (okay I had to stairdance the spider entrance) 18:34:29 Obviously it's really just trading a global for another global, but at least it isn't using extern. 18:34:33 well he makes your defenses even better 18:34:43 and you could destroy potentially dangerous things at range 18:34:56 reaverb: one step closer to multiplayer... 18:35:10 (and I was using potions for the spider end, okay) 18:35:22 pfff 18:35:23 its not tabbing if you use a potion 18:35:25 (i berserked like 3 times earlier on too, it was not just literally o tab o tab o) 18:35:39 oh yeah I actually used Quaz abilities 18:35:42 they are super cool 18:35:48 except disaster area is stupid and weak 18:35:55 at 10 invo 18:35:56 wheals: Hehe, going to guess that's a yes? 18:35:57 you can thank grunt for that one 18:36:08 iirc it's best in tight spaces? 18:36:16 counterintuitively? 18:36:25 its best with astronomically high invo, i think 18:36:40 not really worth using at 10 or even 15 18:37:29 Oh, I should probably move the main.cc comment to player.h 18:38:22 other files that need to be gutted: main.cc 18:38:31 PleasingFungus: I'm working on that!!! 18:38:39 I have a plan to split it into 3 files. 18:38:47 And I came upon moving this global as a prereq. 18:39:05 (Basically what I'm saying is please don't scoop me <_< >_>) 18:39:12 why is it weak at low invo? 18:39:17 10 is not low btw 18:39:32 haha 18:39:34 no worries 18:39:46 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:53 alefury: I'm not sure there's a design reason for it 18:40:20 Can it be at least slightly worth using? It seems to cost a lot of piety 18:40:50 ask grunt imo 18:40:57 lightly damage some dudes, maybe, while flashing the screen a lot is not really a good capstone ability 18:41:00 <+PleasingFungus> iirc it's best in tight spaces? <-- yes, sice it works a bit like disk of storms 18:41:01 10 is low for a god like qazlal 18:41:02 Grunt: ^ 18:41:07 could always raise the fail chance 18:41:14 that would help, yes 18:41:15 so it's more obvious that it's not useful without huge invo 18:41:26 if that's a thing we want 18:41:37 you have your typical gods where 10 invo gives you access to pretty much everything at some degree of usefulness 18:41:41 play ru. apocalype is higher damage and doesn't cost piety!! 18:41:47 but qazlal is the purest example of an "invo god" 18:41:53 other than maybe ely 18:42:11 ?/obsidian plate armour 18:42:11 No matches. 18:42:14 Well Qazlal has the "loads and loads of noise" conduct. 18:42:16 bummer 18:42:51 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:42:51 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:43:20 I think it is good when some gods fill out the whole Inv spectrum. 18:43:58 Fun fact: I have used Gozag duplication for the first time today. 18:44:06 qazlal and ely are the only ones i can think of that actually require you to keep investing for all your abilities to stay relevant 18:44:15 there's ones like tso/zin where getting a ton is nice but not required 18:44:38 and a huge number of ones where there really isn't much reason to get 27 at all, not including the ones that don't use invo 18:44:56 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-2389-gea73f07: Make Disaster Area work better at low invocations (various). 10(57 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea73f07cbd79 18:44:58 and tbh its okay if ely and qaz are like that because most aren't 18:44:58 yeah 18:45:13 Grunt is fast 18:45:19 ??grunt[-2 18:45:19 grunt[26/27]: the hasted patch executioner 18:45:57 I never used Quazlal as a super invo god, maybe I've been doing it wrong... 18:46:12 i mean its fine if you just get 10 and use him to make sure you get through lair 18:46:20 but there are likely better gods for that 18:46:23 fedhas comes to mind 18:46:25 More like "hey thanks for killing some dudes with clouds while I go about my business with enhanced defenses" 18:46:32 and maybe sometimes smiting some dudes 18:46:46 except with fedhas you can just get zero 18:46:57 so it's somewhat of a waste to play qaz like that 18:47:13 !lg * qaz won s=sk 18:47:13 286 games for * (qaz won): 88x Invocations, 56x Fighting, 37x Unarmed Combat, 22x Polearms, 14x Dodging, 12x Armour, 11x Axes, 11x Shields, 10x Maces & Flails, 5x Earth Magic, 4x Long Blades, 3x Conjurations, 2x Throwing, 2x Air Magic, 2x Bows, Short Blades, Evocations, Translocations, Summonings, Charms, Stealth, Necromancy 18:47:21 I was playing super recklessly to die, so I just got the first god 18:47:27 The guy is named "testman" 18:47:33 taking first god is actually quite prudent 18:47:40 unless you're a book start and it's trog or something else like that 18:47:41 GOD_FIRST_GOD 18:47:44 !lg qaz win sk=invocations s=sklev 18:47:44 No games for qaz (win sk=invocations). 18:47:50 !lg * qaz won sk=invocations s=sklev 18:47:51 88 games for * (qaz won sk=invocations): 60x 27, 7x 25, 7x 24, 4x 23, 4x 26, 2x 19, 2x 20, 21, 22 18:47:54 wow 18:47:59 Or if the first god is Chei :D 18:48:00 had there ever been discussion on displaying god ability power like how spell power is displayed? to give players an idea on how sensitive the ability is to invoc/piety increases? 18:48:04 or Xom . 18:48:23 xom is very good. 18:48:26 agreed on xom 18:48:29 !lg * qaz won / sk=invocations 18:48:29 88/286 games for * (qaz won): N=88/286 (30.77%) 18:48:31 johnstein: it's been mentioned; idk about discussion 18:48:32 wow 18:48:33 okay 18:48:35 its an invo god 18:48:43 or at least people think it is 18:48:43 !lg . qaz won sk=invocations s=sklev 18:48:44 No games for DrKe (qaz won sk=invocations). 18:48:44 I will change my heathen ways 18:48:48 wat 18:48:52 johnstein: I think that sounds like a good change. 18:48:59 !lg * won god!= / sk=invocations 18:49:00 954/22715 games for * (won god!=): N=954/22715 (4.20%) 18:49:00 wow i am lame 18:49:06 !lg . lofe won 18:49:06 1. DrKe the Phalangite (L27 LOFE of Qazlal), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-05-12 22:49:07, with 1609658 points after 79218 turns and 7:00:07. 18:49:14 phalangite is a good title 18:49:18 PleasingFungus: DrKe: Is "Xom is a reasonable job choice over Makhleb or such" serious? 18:49:27 i agreed with you on xom 18:49:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:59 i think chei on first god is pretty nice if you want to play chei 18:50:12 Oh, oops. 18:50:12 though it makes you a lot more likely to die, true cheiplayers don't care about that 18:50:13 reaverb: (et al). is it worth me taking some time to flesh it out a bit and submit to CRD? 18:50:16 Serious for the misinterperatation :D 18:51:15 johnstein: tbh I feel like the biggest hurdle to that getting that in would be "Who is willing to create the patch?". 18:51:40 johnstein: spell power display has nothing to do with how sensitive spells are to power 18:51:48 it is and has always been a secret :/ 18:51:50 (Although if anybody has an objection to that statement I would encoourage you to share them!) 18:52:09 reaverb: The biggest hurdle to all crawl development :P 18:52:16 showing ability power would be neat though 18:52:41 I might be biased becasue I have a vague idea for a Ds mutation which would make invo power more relevant. 18:52:51 Think wild magic but with god abilties instead of spells. 18:53:11 Wild Zeal! 18:53:12 the opposite of that one mutation 18:53:24 ability power isn't particularly well defined in general 18:53:26 it's very ad-hoc 18:53:30 forlorn 18:53:32 that's the one 18:53:50 well that's more of a faith thing 18:53:50 v0v 18:53:53 would be nice to display it, but it wouldn't be straightforward 18:54:04 oh, hm 18:54:09 pretty sure 9211 is mine 18:54:14 !bug 9211 18:54:15 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9211 18:54:17 !bug PleasingFungus 18:54:17 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=PleasingFungus 18:54:34 !source godconduct.cc 18:54:34 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc;hb=HEAD 18:54:47 odd 18:55:05 actually, it's not necessarily mine. could be mon-spell-slots fallout of some kind 18:55:17 Trog says he especially likes the killing of Orc Priests 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9211 by MakMorn 18:57:28 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141113030201]] 18:58:01 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:01 The build was broken.: (master - ee7d12e #543 : Steve Melenchuk): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41270898 18:58:01 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:58:06 nooooooo 18:59:10 needs more paper 18:59:18 FR: travis !tells you if you broke the buid. 18:59:21 * Grunt papers over wheals. 18:59:22 s/buid/build/ 19:00:01 ^dump banquo 19:00:01 http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/morgue/Banquo/Banquo.txt 19:00:22 Floating monster error message 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9212 by magicpoints 19:00:22 I can't reproduce this locally 19:00:25 hmmmmm, this is happening on sa branch 19:00:39 h m 19:00:48 Oops. I should have mentioned Salamander 19:00:51 probably an old bug 19:00:59 nah, i just wanted an excuse to blame Grunt :P 19:01:04 !blame wheals 19:01:04 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 19:01:50 that bug is most likely mine 19:01:56 with my mindex jiggery pokery 19:02:35 wow I found two bugs in a row 19:03:07 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:04:20 Not only does that save give an error message, but now I get an info leak for which doors jellies have eaten. Unseen eaten doors show up with the bottom tile of a large gate instead of the tile they should have. 19:04:41 oh well tiles, that doesn't exist 19:05:34 magicpoints: I'd guess the issues are related. I'd add a comment with that onto the 9212 issue. 19:07:00 Done, wasn't sure if it should be a comment or a separate report 19:07:37 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:47 -!- wheals_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:50 -!- wheals has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:07:55 -!- wheals_ is now known as wheals 19:10:22 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:13:55 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:14:00 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-2390-g10d1fa2: Add braces (wiz-dump.cc) 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10d1fa261437 19:14:00 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-2391-g259dd3b: Move a global (apply_berserk_penalty) into the player class 10(5 hours ago, 4 files, 10+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=259dd3bdbe5e 19:14:16 -!- soulfreshner has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:47 uhhhhhh, that abyss effect in tiles is neat 19:14:57 I've never seen that banishment fadeout 19:20:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 19:21:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:45 alefury: also in console -- no reason to wallow in tiles for that! 19:22:10 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:22:24 I'm used to tiles, and besides, if I don't test local tiles nobody will :P 19:24:26 last man testing <3 19:24:58 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 19:26:43 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 19:27:08 -!- NotKintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27:43 -!- Zermako_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:55 I'm all about the tiles 19:27:59 I wish I could test more! 19:28:01 -!- speranza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:03 -!- johnny0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28:04 raaargh 19:28:18 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:32 will the sdl2 stuff get backported to previous versions? 19:29:23 -!- kazimuth has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:29:42 soulfreshner: You mean like 0.15? Almost certanly not. 19:29:57 !lm banquo x=vlong 19:29:57 2010. [2014-11-18 01:03:39] [vlong=0.16-a0-2040-g47efe85] Banquo the Fencer (L20 SaBe of Trog) entered the Depths on turn 54782. (D:15) 19:30:00 %git 19:30:01 07reaverb02 * 0.16-a0-2391-g259dd3b: Move a global (apply_berserk_penalty) into the player class 10(5 hours ago, 4 files, 10+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=259dd3bdbe5e 19:30:10 !lm banquo !sa x=vlong 19:30:11 1923. [2014-11-10 13:44:20] [vlong=0.16-a0-2038-g968ce0a] Banquo the Acrobat (L22 DDFi of Makhleb) killed Wiglaf on turn 70543. (Elf:3) 19:30:12 It it was "apply this patch" trivial I guess it could happen. 19:30:18 PleasingFungus: ? 19:30:26 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:30:27 !bug 9211 19:30:27 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9211 19:30:55 might be a sa branch thing 19:31:32 hmm. 19:32:12 -!- Hypereia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:32:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:33:48 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:33:53 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:53 The build is still failing.: (randliches - c97cfe6 #544 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41271250 19:33:53 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:34:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:35:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:53 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:37:13 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:35 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:49 okay, at 21 invo disaster area is actually very good :) 19:40:08 now I know how I'm going to start vaults:5 :) 19:41:12 ??disaster area[tomb 19:41:12 disaster_area[2/5]: !lg drag0n tomb:3 1 -tv:<0.3 19:42:03 <_miek> yeah lowest level I've done vaults was with a disaster area start 19:42:11 <_miek> didn't use elementals after though, which I should've done 19:43:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:43:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:44:05 -!- Zermako2 has quit [] 19:46:34 oh, haven't used those yet 19:47:18 I never remember to use them 19:47:20 they might be good tho 19:47:26 yeah, thats what I just thougth 19:47:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2392-g1cf97f0: Simplify piety for follower kills 10(7 hours ago, 5 files, 200+ 420-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cf97f0674ea 19:47:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2393-gd5a22de: Simplify 10(7 hours ago, 3 files, 47+ 81-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5a22de2e24b 19:47:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2394-g14b755f: Fix yet another missing space issue 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=14b755f61380 19:48:02 420- 8) 19:48:06 kind of a "oh wait, I actually do have summons? that is super neat!" moment 19:48:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:27 PleasingFungus: \o/ 19:48:35 :) 19:48:43 The fact people forget to use god abilties so regularly sort of shows how powerful they are. 19:48:51 uh 19:48:53 does it 19:48:59 I killed a Ru char once by forgetting draw out power existed D: 19:49:10 PleasingFungus: Well, that they can forget it and still win :D 19:49:22 that shows that the characters are powerful, yes. 19:49:36 btw, MHITYOU is not a killer_type 19:50:07 are you sure 19:50:20 killer_type is an enum 19:50:21 so yeah 19:50:27 weird 19:50:34 I could have sworn I saw it used as a killer_type somewhere 19:50:36 maybe I'm crazy 19:51:21 maybe you're thinking of YOU_KILL 19:51:28 which is a macro to include a bunch of killer_types 19:51:40 hm. both of the things i mentioned in that comment were mids 19:51:54 or mindexes 19:51:56 idk 19:52:01 I have no idea what the difference is tbh 19:52:53 mindex bad, mid good 19:53:02 * wheals bleats in terror. 19:53:09 * PleasingFungus expodes! 19:53:10 er 19:53:12 close enough 19:54:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:54:55 idea: get rid of the silly holiness for aboms and make them MH_ELDRITCH instead 19:54:57 !! 19:54:58 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:13 question 19:56:17 I /think/ adoms holiness was simpliefied? I do like the MH_ELDRITCH idea. (To the point I keep forgetting it's a theoretical idea and not actually implemented <_< >_>) 19:56:33 what's going to happen to corpse sacrifices for Lugonu, Makhleb, Trog, and Fedhas 19:57:06 Fedhas isn't going to go away at least, since it's both flavourful and mechanical 19:57:28 Lightli: Makhleb sacs are going to be removed 100%, Lugonu will probably going to be removed, once altar desicration gets worked out. 19:57:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2395-gcb0c9f4: Fix a comment (wheals) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb0c9f4c67ff 19:57:44 Once those two are handled I'll look at Trog and Fedhas. 19:57:47 rip Makhleb 19:57:52 aaagh i was doing that 19:58:32 good night 19:58:35 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:58:45 Fedhas corpse sacrifice is good I think, since Fedhas doesn't give piety for kills 19:58:50 hahahaha 20:00:39 magicpoints: I'd have to look into it, but I think something like "you can still sac corpses for mushrooms/kill zombies, it just doesn't give piety" and give explore piety or something as compensation might work better than the current system. 20:02:48 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2396-gcb39f22: Fix mid/mindex confusion. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb39f221594f 20:02:48 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-2397-gcde4a19: Fix comments. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cde4a19394c6 20:03:10 dang, that made more sense when i fixed multiple comments 20:06:00 (Fun fact: Right now corpse sacrifices give 13/19ths of a piety point) (???) 20:06:33 .. 20:08:22 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:08:35 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:13 Does it keep track of subpiety or is that a 13/19 chance 20:09:24 13/19 chance. 20:09:32 yeah, i assume it usesdiv_rand_round 20:09:33 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:09:57 !sacrifice reaverb 20:09:57 * Sequell sacrifices reaverb! 20:10:00 huh 20:10:05 I didn't know that one was actually implemented 20:11:12 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:13 The build passed.: (no_backtracking_god - 2b8719e #545 : Corin Buchanan-Howland): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41273286 20:11:13 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:11:44 !sacrifice love 20:11:44 * Sequell sacrifices love! 20:11:51 Sequell is now hated by all. 20:12:12 fcuk yuo squrell 20:12:29 Rude. 20:12:55 !send Bloax extremely ugly things 20:12:55 Sending extremely ugly things to Bloax. 20:13:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2398-g449c05f: Cleanup unused code 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=449c05feea10 20:13:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-2399-g9fae1b6: Give 'enchanted' items a 'brand' description 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fae1b671497 20:13:01 03doy02 07[randliches] * 0.16-a0-2397-g5a5a7ea: initialize spell frequencies for pan lords and ghosts too 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a5a7eab8021 20:13:22 Grunt: how's that valgrind run going 20:13:31 doy: still hasn' 20:13:34 t turned up anything 20:13:37 it's squeaky clean 20:14:37 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:16:08 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:04 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:35 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:40 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:22:45 .crushed 20:22:45 74. crackermeal the Basher (L17 HuFi of Okawaru), blasted by an octopode crusher (iron shot) (kmap: hangedman_shoal_octodias) on Shoals:1 on 2014-11-17 17:27:15, with 119857 points after 39881 turns and 2:48:15. 20:22:51 .gmap 20:22:57 77. Prozac the Cleaver (L12 MiBe of Trog), slain by a 13-headed hydra on Lair:3 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-11-12 10:37:34, with 17756 points after 13135 turns and 0:50:09. 20:23:01 hrm 20:23:12 !kw recent 20:23:12 Keyword: recent => cv>=0.14 20:23:31 !vault hangedman_shoal_octodias 20:23:32 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/shoals.des;hb=HEAD#l357 20:24:21 good vault 20:24:22 !lg * current br=shoals lvl<5 s=ikiller 20:24:23 695 games for * (current br=shoals lvl<5): 68x a merfolk, 68x a water nymph, 55x Polyphemus, 54x a merfolk aquamancer, 41x, 40x a harpy, 34x a kraken, 33x a merfolk impaler, 24x an octopode crusher, 21x a water elemental, 21x a sea snake, 21x a satyr, 18x a merfolk javelineer, 16x a manticore, 13x a faun, 13x Kirke, 12x a siren, 12x a snapping turtle, 12x an alligator snapping turtle, 10x a cyclop... 20:24:29 deng, 24 20:24:46 wonder if it'd overtake mf impaler 20:25:02 !lg * current br=shoals lvl<5 ikiller=merfolk_impaler 20:25:02 33. Darmok the Thaumaturge (L12 DECj of Sif Muna), mangled by a merfolk impaler (a +3 trident of flaming) on Shoals:1 on 2014-11-16 17:08:41, with 20622 points after 18393 turns and 1:18:47. 20:25:13 * Grunt impales gammafunk!! 20:26:01 !lg * current shoals ktyp=water 20:26:02 68. rejenver the Hoplite (L18 MiFi of Qazlal), drowned on Shoals:5 on 2014-11-16 11:02:58, with 204527 points after 26264 turns and 1:55:20. 20:26:31 what, Q doesn't grant a flying ability? 20:26:33 for shame 20:26:58 crawl has enough flying! 20:27:24 need deeper water 20:27:25 deep lava 20:27:42 crawl needs underwater levels 20:27:50 it works for nethack! 20:28:06 <3 the plane of water 20:28:22 it's very novel, even if the gameplay isn't much beyond "look around for this portal" 20:29:23 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:29:40 planes are nice, though earth is rather boring 20:30:17 wheals: there's some interesting functionality for earth which almost nobody ever sees 20:30:29 right, the walls turning into elementals? 20:30:32 wheals: basically it's supposed to be very difficult to dig around 20:30:38 wheals: but that doesn't apply to wands, so 20:30:39 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:30:42 heh 20:30:54 meaning elementals aren't created when you dig with wands? 20:30:57 or something else? 20:30:57 clearly they should have the maze dig wand nerf 20:30:59 i've seen that one on a number of occasions 20:31:02 it's pretty annoying 20:31:11 tbh only air and water are any good 20:31:16 especially since the earth elementals aren't any stronger than normal, but they do have three times the hp 20:31:22 fire is just fly around and let easy enemies annoy you 20:31:25 so it's just you sitting there pounding on them for forever 20:31:33 air is outright dangerous, at least 20:31:33 also astral 20:31:37 except for bugs 20:31:38 yes astral is not bad 20:31:43 air is pretty fun though 20:31:56 <3 air elementals 20:32:02 that was one thing, coming from nethack 20:32:16 where first time I saw one in crawl I thought: "oh no. get ready to die, me" 20:32:21 but they were surprisingly tame 20:32:24 heh 20:32:31 as are most elementals in crawl, but in a pretty good way 20:32:39 the planes are cool enough that it's suprising the same people came up with gehennom 20:32:47 beware the wood elemental...... 20:32:52 unknown monster: "wood elemental" 20:32:52 %??wood elemental 20:32:55 hm 20:33:01 unknown monster: "wood elemental" 20:33:01 %0.9?wood elemental 20:33:02 wood golem (088) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 37-54 | AC/EV: 5/6 | Dam: 10 | 11non-living, 10doors | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire | XP: 189 | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 20:33:02 %0.10?wood golem 20:33:03 ahh 20:33:10 heh, well gehennom has *some* good content 20:33:12 iron elemental, then? 20:33:22 Lava Orcs Back from the Dead as Skeletons 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9213 by archaeo 20:33:25 you were probably thinking of http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=202555 20:33:39 I'd say the wizard's tower is neat, and moloch's sanctum is cool 20:33:47 vine stalkers having skeletons sounds buggy 20:33:51 wheals: actually, I wasn't 20:34:00 orcus town is also kind of cool 20:34:14 ...wow, that card is amazingly bad. 20:34:27 a rare, too! 20:34:29 it really is 20:34:35 legends was a weird set 20:34:39 it only has a rating that high because people give it a good one ironically 20:34:49 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:35:15 (not that you need a rating to see how bad it is) 20:35:22 man that wood elemental is scurry 20:35:34 is that what PleasingFungus looks like, kind of? 20:35:43 idk how pleasing that is 20:35:49 yeah it's not very pleasing 20:36:34 rip 20:37:23 no, pf is http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=4516 20:37:44 huh 20:37:49 it's like that card 20:37:51 but less bad 20:37:53 but still bad 20:38:11 did they ever make a good version? 20:38:37 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 20:39:07 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:39:26 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 20:39:37 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 20:39:37 The build was broken.: (master - 6bc3ce6 #546 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41273674 20:39:37 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 20:40:09 Grunt: it does seem good in terms of not message spamming now 20:40:11 but 20:40:16 vector beams; 20:40:16 beams.resize(beam_count); 20:40:16 for (size_t i = 0; i < beam_count; i++) 20:40:16 beams[random2avg(beam_count, 3)]++; 20:40:25 I bet this would turn PleasingFungus into AngryFungus 20:40:30 gammafunk: you're welcome to find a better way to do that 20:40:40 <_< 20:40:42 PleasingFungus: or you 20:42:28 wow 20:42:30 that's some code 20:42:31 ...huh 20:42:37 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:42:40 I'm still trying to parse it 20:42:53 which commit is this in? 20:43:00 %git iron-rod^ 20:43:00 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2395-g7b5c984: Suppress miss messages for Scattershot. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7b5c9848fa05 20:43:02 er 20:43:04 %git iron-rod^^ 20:43:04 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2394-gca4532a: Cycle through Scattershot beams in a set order. 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 18+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca4532abfe31 20:43:06 that one 20:43:32 graphic 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9214 by AlMick 20:43:32 xv on caustic shrike: "It may attack to deal extra acid damage and ." 20:43:46 (also, why are they on a butterfly glyph?) 20:43:53 haha 20:44:00 elliptic: there has been some debate about that 20:44:01 <|amethyst> elliptic: should be fixed already 20:44:09 <|amethyst> %git :/empty 20:44:09 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2388-g8c53b03: Fix empty attack descriptions (doh) 10(5 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c53b037f8ad 20:44:14 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 20:44:30 They also still have the tile of a bee 20:44:30 did lasty ...right he kept them on b, didn't he? 20:45:00 magicpoints: nerf to tiles+console simultatneously players, unfair! 20:45:10 *simultaneously 20:45:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:37 elliptic: do you also not like ravens on b? 20:45:38 i am pretty confused as to why these segfaults aren't triggering the crash handler 20:45:46 -!- st_ has quit [] 20:46:45 gammafunk: they were okay once I got used to them, and I imagine shrikes on b will be fine too once I get used to them (though maybe they could be a less garish colour?) 20:47:12 i liked them being garish, they're supposed to be surprising 20:47:13 gammafunk: but ravens are pretty harmless and shrikes are not so this is a bit more dangerous until I get used to them :P 20:47:28 dangerous, rather 20:47:30 elliptic: yeah I kind of felt it's ok to have them on b (with appropriate colour), but I don't feel terribly strongly about it 20:47:37 but ravens are on a non-garish colour!!! 20:47:49 make them a non-bright b 20:47:56 and ravens aren't.....*harmless*...dangit...>_> 20:47:57 wheals: my point about that was that I'm used to butterflies being bright-colored b's 20:48:12 !lg devteamnp ikiller=raven s=name 20:48:12 4 games for devteamnp (ikiller=raven): 2x gammafunk, wheals, doy 20:48:13 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:15 haha 20:48:17 I see 20:48:21 wwwhhheeeaaalllsss 20:48:23 !lg . ikiller=raven 20:48:24 1. wheals the Insei (L7 DrTm), slain by a raven (kmap: roderic_ravens_nest) on D:5 on 2013-09-29 05:34:08, with 1050 points after 7293 turns and 0:19:40. 20:48:31 d:5 raven is pretty nasty 20:48:37 I M O 20:48:45 !lg . ikiller=raven 20:48:45 1. doy the Conjurer (L8 TeCj of Vehumet), slain by a raven (kmap: roderic_ravens_nest) on D:6 on 2013-12-10 05:10:08, with 1466 points after 6376 turns and 0:47:45. 20:48:54 haha i am seeing a pattern 20:49:12 they are very fast and have decentish damage and also show up from treants! 20:49:15 !lg * ikiller=raven kmap!=roderic_ravens_nest 20:49:15 208. yangabriel the Fencer (L16 NaFi of Okawaru), slain by a raven on Swamp:3 on 2014-11-17 20:35:56, with 97554 points after 39510 turns and 2:01:18. 20:49:21 !lg * ikiller=raven s=place 20:49:22 276 games for * (ikiller=raven): 61x D:6, 29x D:7, 26x D:10, 24x D:2, 21x D:5, 20x D:8, 16x D:4, 15x D:9, 13x D:3, 13x Swamp:1, 8x D:11, 8x Swamp:2, 5x Swamp:3, 3x Lair:3, 3x D:13, 2x D:12, 2x Lair:5, 2x Abyss:1, Swamp:4, D:1, Lair:7, D:14, D:15 20:49:22 !lg . ikiller=raven s=char,xl,turns 20:49:23 2 games for gammafunk (ikiller=raven): 2x HESu (2x 11 (8504, 8114)) 20:49:26 !vault roderic_ravens_nest 20:49:26 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des;hb=HEAD#l810 20:49:42 24 d:2 raven kills? 20:49:48 poly, probably 20:49:52 raven (02b) | Spd: 20 | HD: 6 | HP: 26-39 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Dam: 14, 11 | see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(20), 08blind | XP: 261 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 20:49:52 %??raven 20:49:54 ah, true 20:49:56 only 6 hd 20:50:01 worm (04w) | Spd: 6 | HD: 5 | HP: 18-37 | AC/EV: 1/5 | Dam: 12 | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 9 | Sz: small | Int: insect. 20:50:01 <|amethyst> %??worm 20:50:04 harpy (03H) | Spd: 25 | HD: 7 | HP: 29-50 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 19, 14 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison | XP: 620 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 20:50:04 <|amethyst> %??harpy 20:50:04 !lg * ikiller=raven place=d:2 s=kmap 20:50:05 yeah 20:50:05 24 games for * (ikiller=raven place=d:2): 22x, minmay_door_path, dk_yredelemnul_ordeal 20:50:06 wow 20:50:23 slight danger difference between worm and raven :P 20:50:24 <|amethyst> !lg harpy place=d depth<3 s=place 20:50:24 Unknown field: depth 20:50:29 lvl 20:50:30 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:50:32 <|amethyst> !lg harpy place=d lvl<3 s=place 20:50:32 149 games for harpy (place=d lvl<3): 59x D:2, 59x D:1, 31x D:$ 20:50:42 <|amethyst> err 20:50:47 <|amethyst> !lg * killer=harpy place=d lvl<3 s=place 20:50:48 23 games for * (killer=harpy place=d lvl<3): 17x D:1, 6x D:2 20:51:01 <|amethyst> !lg @devteamnp killer=harpy place=d lvl<3 s=place 20:51:02 No games for @devteamnp (killer=harpy place=d lvl<3). 20:51:06 !hs harpy 20:51:06 271. Harpy the Petrodigitator (L27 DDEE of Makhleb), escaped with the Orb and 16 runes on 2011-07-16 11:20:01, with 10369943 points after 160765 turns and 1d+13:16:18. 20:51:16 !lg harpy killer=harpy 20:51:16 No games for harpy (killer=harpy). 20:51:21 !hs harpy te 20:51:22 15. Harpy the Destroyer (L15 TeCj of Vehumet), blasted by a dragon (blast of flame) on D:14 on 2011-06-24 22:29:40, with 89072 points after 36264 turns and 6:47:26. 20:51:33 Spell slot 'major destruction.100.divine' missing a casting type 20:51:33 <|amethyst> %?? harpy god:makhleb spells:major_destruction.100.divine 20:51:35 harpy (03H) | Spd: 25 | HD: 7 | HP: 27-51 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 19, 14 | priest, evil, fly | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison | Vul: 08holy, 11silver | XP: 623 | Sp: major destruction (3d15 / 3d4 / 3d14 / 3d16 / 3d17) [11!AM] | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 20:51:35 <|amethyst> %?? harpy god:makhleb spells:major_destruction.100.priest 20:52:57 !lg * ckiller=${name} 20:52:59 Grunt: rename beams to per_beam_shots or something like that. add some comments. you can pull a bunch of stuff out of the inner j loop - the ray advancing can be done outside that, I think. 20:53:00 7. water the Skirmisher (L1 HOAK of Lugonu), drowned on D:1 (tarquinn_simple_flora_water_c) on 2014-04-27 05:00:59, with 8 points after 217 turns and 0:01:01. 20:53:07 hahaha 20:53:16 !lg * ckiller=${name} s=name 20:53:18 7 games for * (ckiller=${name}): 3x Mnoleg, 3x rupert, water 20:53:19 PleasingFungus: pellets 20:53:20 <_< 20:53:23 sure! 20:53:31 anyway, you can do it or I can, I dont' care 20:53:35 ' 20:53:42 Grunt: oh, hrm 20:53:46 !lm * uniq noun=${name} s=name 20:53:47 gammafunk? 20:53:51 monster* mons = monster_by_mid(it.first); 20:53:52 if (!mons || !mons->alive() || !you.can_see(mons)) 20:53:52 continue; 20:53:52 Grunt? 20:53:55 46 milestones for * (uniq noun=${name}): 26x rupert, 15x Margery, 4x Maurice, harold 20:53:57 wheals? 20:54:00 this is after it fires, so might the monster be dead? 20:54:07 and it never gets a message? 20:54:09 is there an echo in here? 20:54:10 or am I misreading 20:54:17 gammafunk: you still get the "You kill the foo!" from the beam 20:54:25 you just don't get a wounds message if it dies 20:54:28 ah I see 20:54:30 wheals: is there an echo in here? 20:54:38 it's only the "so and so is foo wounded" 20:54:45 .echo is there an echo in here? 20:54:45 PleasingFungus: you probably have a better eye for cleanup than I do 20:54:45 is there an echo in here? 20:55:02 yeah for the ray advancing 20:55:06 is that really the only way to get that 20:55:21 the targetter doesn't give this, just the rays? 20:55:33 Grunt: aight 20:55:38 can't promise I won't introduce exciting bugs!!! 20:55:56 * Grunt squashes the bugs like ants! 20:56:14 * wheals squashes Grunt like the proverbial formicid! 20:56:18 !hs Grunt fo 20:56:19 17. SGrunt the Talismancer (L27 FoFi of Ru), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2014-10-31 03:49:10, with 1552889 points after 82864 turns and 4:48:02. 20:56:22 !!! 20:56:29 !greatplayer Grunt 20:56:30 wheals: hi....... 20:56:33 !greaterplayer Grunt 20:56:35 Grunt is a greatplayer! 20:56:36 !polytheist Grunt 20:56:36 Grunt is a polytheist! 20:56:39 Grunt is a greaterplayer! 20:56:46 !hs Grunt sa 20:56:47 No games for Grunt (sa). 20:56:53 Grunt: imo win the first 20:56:59 !hs * sa 20:57:00 91. wheals the Salamander Blade (L22 SaCK of Xom), blasted by a shadow dragon (bolt of negative energy) on Depths:3 (hangedman_slaughterboxes) on 2014-11-13 20:55:46, with 400454 points after 71382 turns and 3:02:23. 20:57:53 ...huh 20:58:23 ...innerestin! 20:58:24 ? 20:58:40 didn't realize how the shotgun targetter is like just a big set of individual rays like that 20:59:12 fr: iron rod does double damage to demons 20:59:18 ahahahaha 20:59:22 and triple damage to ones with HUGE GUTS 20:59:30 QUAD DAMAGE 20:59:34 hehehe sack 20:59:35 oh 20:59:37 excuse me for a moment 20:59:42 !lg * sa x=src 20:59:43 uh oh 20:59:43 91. [src=cbro] wheals the Cruncher (L9 SaWn of Zin), slain by a wight (a +2 battleaxe of chopping) on D:6 on 2014-11-18 00:28:52, with 2172 points after 10325 turns and 0:15:00. 20:59:44 I need to go blast things with iron rod with quad damage 20:59:50 or rather 20:59:52 QUAD DAMAGE 20:59:55 ah ok 20:59:56 zapped 20:59:57 pew 21:00:01 it becomes clearer 21:00:16 remember to make lang=grunt turn 'iron rod' into 'shotgun' 21:00:18 Grunt: You blow up the cacodemon! 21:00:34 wheals: you mean 21:00:36 wheals: BOOMSTICK 21:00:36 heh..hoboy 21:00:48 BATTLESTICK 21:00:52 while ((origin - (p = tempray.pos())).abs() <= range2) 21:00:52 { 21:01:05 seems ripe for an infinite loop 21:01:18 oh 21:01:25 -!- fevertrip_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:01:29 i think n7's merc changes might have one if you sacced love 21:01:31 well good job grunt, the animation seems still a tad slow to me but that's probably the same speed-ish of glaciate? 21:01:49 someone should probably test that 21:02:04 not sure how it changed from when I tweaked it, but it's definitely tolerable 21:03:12 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 21:03:53 THE BURST OF METAL FRAGMENTS HITS THE ORB GUARDIAN. 21:03:53 YOU BLOW UP THE ORB GUARDIAN! 21:03:56 muhahahahahahahahaha 21:04:19 oh re that (origin - (p = tempray.pos())).abs() <= range2 that should be distance2(origin, p = tempray.pos()) <= range2 but I guess that loop just needs a bit of sanity cleanup 21:04:27 -!- candlr has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:04:30 I'll leave that to the refactoring brigade! 21:04:35 gammafunk: where is this? 21:04:51 !function targetter_shotgun::set_aim 21:04:52 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/target.cc;hb=HEAD#l1238 21:05:17 1learn add PleasingFungus the refactoring brigadier general 21:05:31 it does need to update the value of p, but doing it there and a while loop with no break conditionns 21:05:39 I'm actually not sure style wise what's the best thing 21:06:20 good name 21:06:23 do we know how many times tempray.advance() will happen there, for instance? 21:06:36 if so that'd be the iteration limit 21:06:54 hm. is this something that needs to be fixed up before the merge? 21:06:59 !learn add PleasingFungus the refactoring brigadier general; 21:06:59 pleasingfungus[15/15]: the refactoring brigadier general; 21:07:00 er 21:07:07 !learn edit pleasingfungus[15] s/;// 21:07:08 pleasingfungus[15/15]: the refactoring brigadier general 21:07:08 rip 21:07:12 oh dear. 21:07:20 the general always adds his semicolons! 21:07:42 and if you forget your semicolon, you have to peel 2700 potatoes 21:09:22 ; 21:09:32 03Grunt02 {PleasingFungus} 07* 0.16-a0-2400-g1eca9a7: Replace the rod of striking with the iron rod. 10(4 weeks ago, 25 files, 229+ 58-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1eca9a74a905 21:09:41 ! 21:09:51 ...incoming! 21:09:57 he squashed it 21:09:59 or he squashed? 21:10:01 dang 21:10:08 rip my commits! 21:10:11 rip 21:10:13 *commit 21:10:42 rip mine too 21:10:50 (I did the aforementioned refactoring before I squashed) 21:11:00 ??iron rod 21:11:00 I don't have a page labeled iron_rod in my learndb. 21:11:24 Grunt: I kept the best commit message 21:11:28 check the end of the squashed one 21:11:38 SUPER SCATTERSHOT 21:11:41 <3 21:11:57 ??rod of clouds 21:11:57 rod of clouds[1/1]: Creates clouds in a cone-shaped area. Low power: rain, mist, mephitic clouds; medium power: fire, ice, poison clouds; high power: acid, negative energy, storm clouds. 21:12:00 ??rod of destruction 21:12:00 rod of destruction[1/2]: Fires a random bolt from the list [venom, draining, fire, cold, lightning, quicksilver, crystal, (in 0.16+ corrosive)] In 0.13-, had lightning bolt, iron shot, and fireball. 21:12:10 -!- vimpulse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12:12 good ol' mumra 21:12:23 ??rod of striking 21:12:23 rod of striking[1/1]: A rod which uses its mana to do 1d(1.5*evo) extra damage per hit (CHECKS AC) when you use it like a weapon, like a inbuilt {infusion}. Each hit drains one of the rod's MP. Its base stats are basically the same as a club's. Before 0.13, it shot 1d8 force bolts. 21:12:38 !learn e rod_of_striking s/Before 0.13.*/Struck out in 0.16. 21:12:39 rod of striking[1/1]: A rod which uses its mana to do 1d(1.5*evo) extra damage per hit (CHECKS AC) when you use it like a weapon, like a inbuilt {infusion}. Each hit drains one of the rod's MP. Its base stats are basically the same as a club's. Struck out in 0.16. 21:12:42 !gitgrep 1 quite powerful 21:12:43 %git HEAD^{/quite powerful} 21:12:43 07Grunt02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.16-a0-2400-g1eca9a7: Replace the rod of striking with the iron rod. 10(4 weeks ago, 25 files, 229+ 58-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1eca9a74a905 21:12:45 !gitgrep 2 quite powerful 21:12:46 %git HEAD^{/quite powerful}^^{/quite powerful} 21:12:46 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2819-g5a7a5f3: Greatly reduce CBL timeout. 10(9 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a7a5f311507 21:12:50 !gitgrep 3 quite powerful 21:12:50 %git HEAD^{/quite powerful}^^{/quite powerful}^^{/quite powerful} 21:12:51 07DracoOmega02 * 0.13-a0-2411-gf70f79a: New player spell: Searing Ray 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 11 files, 179+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f70f79a1d874 21:13:04 !gitgrep 4 quite powerful 21:13:04 %git HEAD^{/quite powerful}^^{/quite powerful}^^{/quite powerful}^^{/quite powerful} 21:13:05 07elliptic02 * 0.11-a0-1304-g09c327f: Make earth elementals require more skill, water elementals require less. 10(2 years, 7 months ago, 2 files, 6+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09c327fa2af2 21:13:06 !learn add iron_rod Blasts the area in front of you with metallic fragments. Their number and spread increase with evocation power. 21:13:06 iron rod[1/1]: Blasts the area in front of you with metallic fragments. Their number and spread increase with evocation power. 21:13:10 let's see 21:13:21 !learn edit iron_rod s/$/ Range 6./ 21:13:21 iron rod[1/1]: Blasts the area in front of you with metallic fragments. Their number and spread increase with evocation power. Range 6. 21:13:28 !learn edit iron_rod s/$/ New for 0.16./ 21:13:28 iron rod[1/1]: Blasts the area in front of you with metallic fragments. Their number and spread increase with evocation power. Range 6. New for 0.16. 21:13:59 !learn del melee 21:13:59 Deleted melee[1/1]: means that if the monster decides to cast a spell, it can pick melee as its spell. If it picks melee as its spell, it walks towards you or melees. Basically it's a way of giving a monster high HD (casts more often and with higher spell power) without making it cast TOO often. 21:13:59 1learn e iron_rod s/$/ "Quite powerful" --Grunt 21:14:16 !learn add iron_rod "At high spellpower, you may think of it as Super Scattershot." -- Grunt 21:14:17 iron rod[2/2]: "At high spellpower, you may think of it as Super Scattershot." -- Grunt 21:14:18 My one great dream is to see a some poor high elf summoner get shredded by one of these in a labyrinth. 21:14:27 gammafunk: are you listening 21:14:33 rip my rod of striking on this char 21:14:41 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:41 The build was broken.: (master - 409e20e #547 : Neil Moore): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41275362 21:14:41 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:14:46 it won't work because 21:14:55 one or two uses and it's empty 21:14:59 feh! 21:15:01 and I have just tooooo many summons 21:15:14 it's never a rod that gets me, I think I've died to him twice? 21:15:19 !lg . hesu br=lab 21:15:20 3. gammafunk the Summoner (L10 HESu of Sif Muna), quit the game in a Labyrinth on 2014-11-12 01:07:30, with 6465 points after 7068 turns and 0:58:25. 21:15:24 !lg . hesu br=lab s=kaux 21:15:25 3 games for gammafunk (hesu br=lab): 2x, the +3 morningstar of Unpleasantness {flame, Str+4 Stlth+} 21:15:25 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:15:29 hehe 21:15:33 !learn add melee Quite powerful. 21:15:33 melee[1/1]: Quite powerful. 21:15:39 !lg * ckaux~~rod 21:15:41 464. DenpaOtoko the Cleaver (L10 HOFi of Beogh), slain by a minotaur (a +4 rod of clouds (0/11)) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_green) on 2014-11-17 14:09:01, with 4714 points after 5395 turns and 0:28:58. 21:15:50 hm 21:15:52 !lg . hesu br=lab s=ikiller,kaux 21:15:53 3 games for gammafunk (hesu br=lab): 2x (2x), a minotaur (the +3 morningstar of Unpleasantness {flame, Str+4 Stlth+}) 21:15:53 I guess that won't actually work 21:15:58 good name 21:16:02 rods have ikillers 21:16:03 pretty perfect 21:16:05 wow only one time ever 21:16:09 !lg * lab s=-vmsg 21:16:10 4162 games for * (lab): demolished by a minotaur (the cursed +4 hand axe of the Lame Duck {freeze, *Rage Int+4}), demolished by a minotaur (a cursed staff of death), demolished by a minotaur (the +5,+5 mace of Brilliance {holy}), mangled by busb's ghost, slain by a minotaur (a +5 rod of striking (9/12)), mangled by a minotaur (a +7 rod of shadows (4/12)), blasted by Redfox5813's ghost (blast of ne... 21:16:32 !lg * lab vmsg~~' of ' s=-vmsg 21:16:32 1234 games for * (lab vmsg~~' of '): slain by a minotaur (a +9 rod of fiery destruction (11/11)), slain by a minotaur (a +2,+2 dwarven eveningstar of freezing), slain by a minotaur (a +4,+0 spear of dragon slaying), mangled by a minotaur (a +4 rod of ignition (14/14)), demolished by a minotaur (a +9 rod of clouds (6/9)), slain by a minotaur (the +2,+5 mace of Ghocloek {freeze}), annihilated by a m... 21:16:35 so yeah the HESu that dies will probably be a fungal one 21:16:41 !lg * ckaux~~explos 21:16:42 303. silentsnack the Insei (L4 OpCK of Xom), killed by explosive bolt on D:3 on 2014-11-09 03:53:23, with 109 points after 2160 turns and 0:05:24. 21:16:43 since he dies to airstrike in depths already 21:16:44 !lg * lab vmsg~~' of ' vmsg!~~'rod of' s=-vmsg 21:16:45 907 games for * (lab vmsg~~' of ' vmsg!~~'rod of'): mangled by a minotaur (a +2,+6 battleaxe of flaming), mangled by a minotaur (the cursed -5,-5 quarterstaff of Duty {crush, +Blink +Rage}), killed by wand of fire, slain by a minotaur (a +1,+4 flail of protection), mangled by a reaper (a +0,+0 scythe of venom), mangled by a minotaur (the +12 halberd of the Magi {drain, -Cast rC+}), mangled by a mi... 21:16:50 w h a t 21:16:51 !lg * ckaux~~explos -tv 21:16:53 303. silentsnack, XL4 OpCK, T:2160 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:17:02 !lg * vmsg=killed_by_wand_of_fire 21:17:03 1. clouded the Conjurer (L12 HuWz), killed by wand of fire in a Labyrinth on 2010-06-02 22:35:16, with 11641 points after 22420 turns and 1:20:17. 21:17:05 +12 halberd! 21:17:12 good vmsg 21:17:18 !lg * kaux~~" \+12" 21:17:19 22. Felinix the Fencer (L12 DrSk), mangled by a minotaur (the +12 dagger of Evounn {distort, -Cast MR+ SInv}) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_watery) on 2014-10-09 22:03:27, with 22143 points after 21764 turns and 1:24:30. 21:17:21 !lg * kaux~~" \+12 " 21:17:22 5. Felinix the Fencer (L12 DrSk), mangled by a minotaur (the +12 dagger of Evounn {distort, -Cast MR+ SInv}) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_watery) on 2014-10-09 22:03:27, with 22143 points after 21764 turns and 1:24:30. 21:17:22 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141110030204]] 21:17:25 good 21:17:37 bye 21:17:40 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:17:55 !learn set melee "[N]ow completely useless." -- Grunt 21:17:55 melee[1/1]: "[N]ow completely useless." -- Grunt 21:18:05 wow 21:18:06 rude 21:18:07 -!- andrewhl has quit [Client Quit] 21:18:22 ??apropos_randarts[mino] 21:18:23 apropos_randarts[24/27]: neops the Thaumaturge (L10 MuWz), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by a minotaur (the cursed -2,-5 hand axe of neops' Instant Death) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_spiral) on 2012-02-20 12:00:15, with 4369 points after 23083 turns and 1:56:22. 21:18:31 !lg * kaux~~" \+12 " s=ckiller 21:18:32 5 games for * (kaux~~' \1+12 '): 3x a minotaur, Terence, Rupert 21:18:34 that is my absolute favorite milestone 21:18:48 !lg * vmsg~~$(name) 21:18:54 er 21:19:05 16048. gurdl9716 the Martial Artist (L14 VSMo of Cheibriados), mangled by gurdl9716's ghost in IceCv (ice_cave_statue_garden_01) on 2014-11-18 03:02:40, with 38536 points after 14887 turns and 0:29:57. 21:19:14 oh I guess that worked 21:19:21 !lg * vmsg~~${name} ckiller!=a_player_ghost 21:19:39 1689. quit the Cudgeler (L2 DgGl), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-11-17 17:35:18, with 16 points after 465 turns and 0:00:59. 21:19:44 New branch created: segfault-debug (1 commit) 21:19:44 03doy02 07[segfault-debug] * 0.16-a0-2400-g72c2edf: see if we can get a stacktrace from this segfault 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=72c2edf1cb75 21:19:46 haha 21:19:46 hah 21:21:05 these segfaults seem to be getting more frequent 21:21:08 which is weird 21:37:20 -!- johnf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:32 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:29 -!- awtar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:43:58 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:58 The build is still failing.: (randliches - 9b6fe57 #548 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41277752 21:43:58 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 21:49:06 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:52:46 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:53:12 -!- Guest64395 is now known as Zilis 22:01:50 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 22:03:44 Poncheis (L19 GhDK) ERROR: range check error (6274 / 702) (Vaults:1) 22:04:05 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:04:26 !crashlog Poncheis 22:04:27 17. Poncheis, XL19 GhDK, T:53607 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Poncheis/crash-Poncheis-20141118-040344.txt 22:06:06 !crashlog tijit 22:06:06 No milestones for tijit (crash). 22:06:16 hmm. why aren't crashes on my server being reported? 22:06:55 eg https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/tijit/crash-tijit-20141118-035410.txt 22:07:02 chequers: are you using a copy of the sizzell bot? 22:07:09 (and https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/tijit/crash-recursive-tijit-20141118-035410.txt ) 22:07:12 johnstein: no 22:07:23 so sequell doesn't pull this data itself? 22:07:29 oh. I don't think so 22:08:36 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:09:32 -!- RedFeather has quit [Client Quit] 22:09:34 I may have misunderstood your question. the server bot (sizzell, rotatell, etc) are supposed to announce the crash here. but !crashlog is a sequell command that will retrieve it (based on using !lm and the crash milestone) 22:10:40 !crashlog * cpo 22:10:41 9. zzxc, XL22 HaAK, T:89662 (milestone): https://crawl.project357.org/morgue/zzxc/crash-zzxc-20141112-082952.txt 22:10:51 !crashlog tijit 22:10:52 No milestones for tijit (crash). 22:10:56 h m m m m m m m 22:11:07 !lm tijit 22:11:08 !lm tijit 22:11:08 33. [2014-11-18 03:49:20] tijit the Earth Mage (L15 DrWz of Vehumet) killed Rupert on turn 45434. (D:13) 22:11:08 33. [2014-11-18 03:49:20] tijit the Earth Mage (L15 DrWz of Vehumet) killed Rupert on turn 45434. (D:13) 22:11:14 !lm tijit crash 22:11:15 No milestones for tijit (crash). 22:11:15 because it's recursive? 22:11:22 maybe 22:11:24 !nick tijit 22:11:24 No nick mapping for tijit. 22:11:35 ...when do we get a Projell 22:11:36 :) 22:11:56 357ell 22:12:07 n357ell I guess 22:12:20 n78291ell 22:12:20 we already have n7, who's rumoured to be a bot 22:12:56 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:13:37 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:14:21 -!- domi___ has quit [Client Quit] 22:14:27 Grunt: do you want one? 22:14:59 numbrell 22:15:06 -!- domi___ has quit [Client Quit] 22:15:29 chequers: it's good practice for players who are using the server as well as for directly updating us on crashes and such 22:15:31 chequers: the bot says something like this (in case you haven't seen it) 22:15:33 11:19:28 renl (L13 FoSk) (Orc:4) 22:15:41 wait 22:15:45 what happened to the rod of striking 22:15:52 it's a shotgun 22:16:06 ok good enough 22:16:14 Grunt: what do you mean "good practice"? but yeah, if it reports crashes I'll look into it 22:16:33 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:45 announces the milestones in ##crawl too 22:16:49 ^version 22:16:50 trunk: 0.16-a0-2381-gbf6b861; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2 22:17:00 ^rc 22:17:00 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/johnstein.rc 22:17:14 oh. heh. thought that was a Rotatell command 22:18:32 <_miek> is there a bot for the henzell's etc? 22:18:34 yeah, I hate the milestone announcing! so I was delaying the bot until people asked about it :P 22:18:43 <_miek> well obv there is but is it in a public location too? 22:19:15 ??bot 22:19:15 bot ~ bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^), Eksell (CXC, |); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 22:19:53 -!- domiryuu has quit [Client Quit] 22:20:09 # 22:20:22 ` 22:20:23 ~ 22:20:44 "It may attack to ." 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9215 by josh 22:20:44 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:51 ??sizzell[2] 22:20:51 sizzell[2/2]: Source at https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell 22:20:56 _miek: ^ 22:21:01 clan, cbro, and cszo all use the same code I think. not sure about gretell and henzell and eksell 22:21:14 <_miek> thanks elliptic 22:21:24 I think gretell is the only one that is significantly different from the others (because it is older) 22:21:29 (sorry miek, I misunderstood your request) 22:21:45 <_miek> no porblem 22:21:47 <_miek> problem* 22:22:24 <_miek> Is there any interest in having the console android port on the CDO downloads page? 22:23:50 I think Grunt may be working on a console thing for android? 22:24:06 I am not. 22:24:23 actually I think he might not be, come to think of it 22:24:32 I'm making a properly usable Android SDL2 port, but nothing console-wise. 22:24:46 If I wanted to do that I'd try to make a unified app capable of displaying both tiles and console 22:24:49 hm 22:24:58 h m m m m 22:25:01 <_miek> well there's that "unofficial" one on play store 22:25:03 <_miek> but its only 0.14 22:25:16 I think Grunt may be working on getting bluetooth keyboards working for iOS webtiles 22:25:19 <_miek> someone mentioned that its code is available: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=14175 22:25:24 <_miek> so I made a version for 0.15.2 22:25:36 johnstein: be honest, are you just hoping to use power of suggestion there 22:26:02 !send Grunt Powerful Suggestions 22:26:02 Sending Powerful Suggestions to Grunt. 22:26:13 !send Hell johnstein 22:26:13 Sending johnstein to Hell. 22:26:24 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:26:30 _miek: well if Grunt finishes the sdl2 build, there's maybe not as much need for a console one? 22:26:35 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:26:38 <_miek> true 22:26:41 there's gotta be like 3 people out there in the same situation, just dying to play webtiles on their iphone + keyboard 22:26:54 I guess it's nice if you prefer console, certainly 22:27:07 ??sdl2 22:27:07 sdl2[1/2]: TODO: zooming (base initial scale on display density), refactor WME_ framework to line up with SDL2's framework 22:27:08 <_miek> well my main issue is the interface yeah 22:27:10 yea. I can do that for sure. that's my backup plan 22:27:28 but I just don't have the glyphs memorized so I'm unable to properly identify DANGER 22:27:34 <_miek> the unofficial interface is just a keyboard, which isn't great but is better than the official one atm 22:27:48 <_miek> oh.. keyboard + tapping edges of screen for directional movement 22:27:49 I hear there's a training program I can enroll in to get better at console 22:27:51 !rng mugl sdl2_siliness 22:27:51 The RNG chooses: sdl2_siliness. 22:28:04 good 22:28:31 _miek: i want that apk 22:28:43 <_miek> chequers: Can you download it form that link? 22:29:00 oh, looking 22:29:57 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:31:04 <_miek> let me know if it doesn't work 22:31:46 boots up fine 22:31:53 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:05 <_miek> cool 22:32:15 <_miek> I've taken a GrBe to D:7 or so in it 22:32:27 <_miek> so I think its all fine 22:33:23 baby it works perfectly ilu 22:35:01 <_miek> :) 22:35:21 <_miek> I can probably get a 0.16-a one going at some point too 22:35:31 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:35:34 <_miek> anyway if you guys want to put it on CDO you have my blessing 22:35:58 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:36:07 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:54 %git da8ff79318f9b6e55ad1ac6304ce32a876208b18 22:36:54 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-2024-gda8ff79: Where high DPI allows, render fonts in high resolution. 10(3 days ago, 8 files, 42+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da8ff79318f9 22:37:01 gammafunk: huh? 22:37:05 fontwrapper-ft.cc: In member function ‘virtual bool FTFontWrapper::load_font(const char*, unsigned int, bool, int, int)’: 22:37:08 fontwrapper-ft.cc:62:73: warning: declaration of ‘scale_den’ shadows a member of 'this' [-Wshadow] bool outline, int scale_num, int scale_den) 22:37:11 I assume from that commit 22:37:16 gammafunk: oh, yes 22:41:09 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 22:48:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:12 The build was broken.: (master - 2ce803e #550 : Jesse Luehrs): http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/41291828 22:48:12 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 22:49:38 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Client Quit] 22:51:13 Grunt: what are the biggest problems in terms of the WME event to SDL even mappings? or is it not the mappings per se 22:51:54 gammafunk: basically, WME_ is intended to line up fairly closely to SDL events (see current trunk for a better idea) 22:52:24 !source windowmanager-sdl.cc 22:52:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/windowmanager-sdl.cc;hb=HEAD 22:52:26 gammafunk: see current trunk for a better idea 22:52:27 yes 22:52:45 Grunt: should I see current trunk for a better idea? 22:53:00 gammafunk: maybe you should see current trunk for a better idea 22:53:09 sounds like a good idea 22:53:55 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:54:08 -!- Zilis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:55:34 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:58:58 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2401-gc205e79: Simplify a few things, and improve an algorithm 10(34 minutes ago, 6 files, 25+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c205e7978624 22:59:07 <|amethyst> "Simplify" = "Break" I'm sure 22:59:12 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59:46 <|amethyst> ⊥ is the simplest function after all 22:59:51 that's why Travis is here, right? 22:59:53 |amethyst: can't be worse than some of my code recently! 22:59:54 not working is, technically, simpler 23:00:13 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:00:33 <|amethyst> FR: get rid of is_memorised 23:00:46 <|amethyst> since it is exactly the same as player::has_spell 23:08:28 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:09:38 -!- witty has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:09:38 -!- witty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:11:24 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:52 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:14:59 -!- Seraphtheol has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:15:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:16:41 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:20:10 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22:01 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-2400-g1eca9a7 (34) 23:23:23 -!- Mazed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:07 -!- Naubita has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:25:19 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:40 ??eksell 23:25:40 Eksell[1/1]: cxc bot 23:25:47 ??cxc 23:25:48 cXc[1/2]: Server in France: CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM -- ssh port 22, username crawl, uses CAO key (available at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/keys/). Webtiles address: http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM 23:25:58 ??cxc[2 23:25:59 cXc[2/2]: Morgues, ttyrecs etc. are at http://CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM/crawl/. Maintained by Medar and zkyp. 23:26:46 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-2402-g8bc4501: Split monster::search_spells, simplify. 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 23+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8bc45018d905 23:27:40 -!- Brannock has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:59 any_of...is c++ turning into python 23:32:16 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:32:29 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 23:33:08 ??goodsequell[$ 23:33:08 goodsequell[10/10]: ??C++ cocytus[1/1]: The frozen Hell. 23:35:06 gammafunk: were you looking into the miscoloured vault monster thing at some point? 23:42:54 Poncheis (L24 GhDK) ERROR: range check error (8107 / 702) (Depths:5) 23:45:08 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 23:46:40 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:46:40 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 23:46:48 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:49:05 hm 23:49:24 every time it happens it's in an encompass vault 23:49:33 Grunt: well I cleanup up monster colours, but it's possible the green fire giant business wasn't fixed 23:49:46 unless you mean something else 23:49:48 gammafunk: that's what I mean, yes 23:50:07 I think green is a fallback colour for the elemental colour function 23:50:07 %bug 7739 23:50:07 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7739 23:50:18 %bug 8343 23:50:18 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8343 23:51:03 well I don't know what conditions create it, sadly 23:51:09 !seen wheals 23:51:09 I last saw wheals at Tue Nov 18 03:52:46 2014 UTC (1h 58m 23s ago) quitting, saying 'Ping timeout: 255 seconds'. 23:51:12 rip 23:51:46 ping timeout?!?! does that mean wheals is quitting crawl forever?!?! 23:52:28 ya 23:53:06 miss you already wheeeeaaaalllsss 23:53:09 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:53:53 gammafunk: vaults that use COLOUR seem to trigger it 23:53:54 Grunt: if you happen to spot some hint as to what can cause it, I can look into it more 23:54:19 Grunt: can you recreate it in trunk? 23:54:25 the monsters that appear are the same colour as a COLOUR tag 23:54:44 ...oh 23:54:48 like for walls? 23:54:55 gammafunk: I just watched Poncheis get a cyan hill giant in grunt_profane_halls 23:55:03 23:30:59 any_of...is c++ turning into python 23:55:05 I wish!!! 23:55:11 me too!!! 23:55:41 "Possibly an array or FixedVector would be faster than bitset despite the increased size." |amethyst, beware... the memory cost... 23:55:41 PleasingFungus: of course then where would your precious const int (x27) be... 23:56:12 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:19 nooo 23:56:23 !vault grunt_profane_halls 23:56:23 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/depths_encompass.des;hb=HEAD#l318 23:57:08 !source dungeon.cc:4095 23:57:08 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc;hb=HEAD#l4095 23:57:11 this looks 23:57:16 suspicious 23:57:17 er 23:57:21 !source dungeon.cc:4905 23:57:21 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc;hb=HEAD#l4905 23:57:25 %git f8c960b455b720c643b8ca4021c04039139615a6 23:57:25 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-2098-gf8c960b: Add a trailing newline. 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f8c960b455b7 23:58:19 -!- Pluie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:21 FR: update worm AI to use Real Worm AI 23:58:25 http://www.i-programmer.info/news/105-artificial-intelligence/7985-a-worms-mind-in-a-lego-body.html 23:58:42 Grunt: butterflies? 23:59:44 !function place_monster 23:59:44 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc;hb=HEAD#l842