00:01:42 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:04:27 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:07:40 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:08:15 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:09:50 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1935-g33a54cb (34) 00:11:05 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 00:13:01 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:14:24 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 00:17:17 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:19:22 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:22:12 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:25 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:24:51 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:33:59 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:36:03 -!- ruwin has quit [] 00:38:28 anyone know the bug number for the OS bug? 00:38:32 *OS X 00:38:46 9108 00:38:49 er 00:38:53 that's at least related 00:39:45 ...can we close 8343 00:39:47 ? 00:40:14 looks like 00:40:20 !bug 0009069 00:40:21 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=0009069 00:40:45 PleasingFungus: so you don't even run latest xcode, I assume? 00:41:25 not at present 00:41:32 was planning on upgrading once this got fixed 00:41:46 oh, 9069 is a better bug 00:41:52 you're right 00:42:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:43:23 !send Grunt http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/dev/vaults.des 00:43:24 Sending http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/dev/vaults.des to Grunt. 00:44:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 00:44:47 dang, I really need that xcode to fix this 00:44:52 effin macs 00:45:41 sorry :( 00:45:49 talk to geekosaur or... lobf? 00:45:54 idk 00:45:58 oh yosemite is 10.10 00:46:01 what is 10.9 00:46:02 ? 00:46:03 I could upgrade tomorrow, I guess (going to bed in a minute) 00:46:06 mavericks 00:46:33 <3 <3 <3 <3 00:47:31 <@Grunt> imo code a @floor@ 00:47:46 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the shallow water. 00:48:36 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the dry fountain. 00:49:24 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the alarm trap. 00:49:52 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the abandoned shop. 00:50:57 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the web. The Executioner is freed! 00:52:50 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the open door, shouting about some Johnny fellow 00:53:44 The Executioner scrapes its blade against the fourth wall. 00:54:12 The Executioner says "All work and no play..." would be a funny dialogue :P 00:54:33 good wheals dialogue 00:55:51 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:01:14 -!- Alark has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:03:11 -!- Artelis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:05:19 -!- kipster has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:05:21 -!- AltReality has quit [Quit: Shame on us, doomed from the start, May God have mercy on our dirty little hearts. Shame on us, for what we've done, and all we ever were, just zeros and ones.] 01:07:31 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:07:31 -!- lessens_ is now known as lessens 01:09:11 "Oh look, scratches all over the floor. I hate that." 01:09:27 I don't think Donald fits in Pan 01:09:43 "Oh look, I stepped in some blood. Again." 01:09:44 i didn't like your stupid joke anyway 01:10:21 obviously donald should have multiple incarnations for varied placements 01:11:07 Pandemonium lord Donalldo 01:11:35 donald should spawn in every game so people actually see some of his messages 01:11:51 Donalldo points at you and shouts some colorful but ineffective vernacular. 01:11:54 enslave his soul, obviously 01:12:36 Donalldo bemoans his spell set. "Why couldn't I have gotten crystal spear? Or major demon?" 01:13:09 Donalldo wonders if he has the demonic rune or not, they're not allowed to know 01:14:50 Donalldo says, "Welcome to the Hotel Panifornia." 01:16:50 Donalldo says, "I like this gig much better than being an orb guardian. They don't even get spells!" 01:16:52 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:42 or maybe he could respawn in the samegame. likea fixed n% per branch. as (more of) a meta joke 01:18:31 first you kill donald the human. then donald the lich. then donald the pan lord. 01:19:46 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:21:01 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:21:54 -!- Artelis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:22:13 donald the human, donald the spriggan defender, donald the warmonger 01:22:18 -!- potatolizard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:22:42 Donald the octopode says "Tentacles? I hate that." 01:24:29 "I must have taken a wrong turn in the depths. I hate that." 01:24:39 he has abyss lines right for AK banishment? 01:24:51 yes 01:25:16 people gave him zot and temple lines and you have to drag him there 01:29:50 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:36:13 portal vaults? 01:36:31 i guess maybe it's impossible to get him there 01:36:39 ...oh christ 01:36:42 he is placed in lab for no reason, though 01:36:53 grand avatar (06R) | Spd: 30 | HD: 5 | HP: 50 | AC/EV: 20/5 | Dam: 30(reach) | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 08acid, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 0 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 01:36:53 %??grand_avatar 01:37:02 what about 'em 01:37:41 xp 0, int plant? 01:38:01 this silly thing's movement 01:38:09 what are they, pan butterflies? 01:38:11 Zannick: they're conjurations like battlespheres 01:41:16 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:41:37 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:06 grand avatar (06R) | Spd: 30 | HD: 5 | HP: 50 | AC/EV: 20/5 | Dam: 30(reach) | 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 08acid, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | XP: 0 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 01:42:06 %??grand_avatar 01:42:21 wow what a fun mess this will be 01:43:01 ? 01:43:25 making these things have non-broken movement 01:43:33 -!- Raccoon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:44:40 don't they just forcibly lock on the player 01:45:36 that would probably merit xp... 01:45:46 they're summoned sooooo 01:45:55 they aren't real monsters 01:46:21 it'd be like giving xp for killing briar patches 01:46:32 most monsters aren't real :P 01:47:01 well, they're even less real than normal 01:47:36 their movement is broken since they follow the player even when they shouldn't, namely when they move out of los of any monster with the enchant 01:48:11 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:49:12 probably just another little check here in mon-act will do it though 01:50:55 -!- potatolizard has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:14 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:55:49 oh nice, I found a single place where all of this should work 01:55:50 phew 01:56:44 !function mon_can_move_to_pos 01:56:46 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-act.cc;hb=HEAD#l3376 01:57:21 if (!summoner) // XXX 01:57:30 I hope that's a dracoomega bug comment 01:58:20 void summon_horrible_things(int power) { // XXX 01:58:44 %git 787a57f1 01:58:44 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1484-g787a57f: Remove an assumption that spellforged servitors can only be player-cast. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=787a57f1ee6c 01:58:53 ...Grunted 01:59:11 otoh reminds me of a todo item 01:59:16 ??gammafunk[1 01:59:17 gammafunk[1/11]: TODO: grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies 01:59:29 * PleasingFungus grunts. 01:59:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:59:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141031061804]] 01:59:47 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s/$/, give Frederick spellforged servitor?/ 01:59:48 gammafunk[1/11]: TODO: grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, give Frederick spellforged servitor? 02:00:00 unknown monster: "fredereick" 02:00:00 %??fredereick 02:00:02 Frederick (03@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 159 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 27 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140) | XP: 3749 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25), b.cold (3d30), invisibility, iron shot (3d36) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 02:00:02 %??frederick 02:00:45 hrm 02:01:06 %git iron-rod 02:01:06 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-1735-g616974c: Increase spread and pellet count of Scattershot with spellpower. 10(7 days ago, 7 files, 40+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=616974cb2044 02:03:38 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:12:32 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:14:17 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:21:07 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21:11 -!- Irrlicht has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:22:55 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:22:56 -!- Kramin has quit [Excess Flood] 02:25:41 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:25:49 -!- Buxus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:26:23 -!- sgun_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:34:26 -!- Eksell has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:36 Webtiles server started. 02:35:38 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:47:31 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:51:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:52:31 -!- Amnesthesia is now known as Amnesthesia|Else 02:54:59 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:16 -!- crate_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:06:32 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:52 -!- djanatyn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:07:48 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:09:30 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:12:41 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:41 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:15:19 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:15:48 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:55 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:30:21 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 03:32:52 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:36:14 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:53:45 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:53:52 -!- Sphara has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:55:05 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:56:42 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58:37 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:03:50 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:11:13 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:11:38 Ziggurat mimic 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9147 by Sphara 04:13:23 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:20:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:37:53 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:45:11 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:12 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:53:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:55:34 -!- kait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:59:02 -!- ZRN_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:00:56 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:01:49 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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When below half health it can overheat, causing it to explode on death. 08:13:04 1learn e guardian_golem[1 s/Ally/Enemy 08:15:28 -!- dis- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:02 -!- dis- has left ##crawl-dev 08:20:52 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:25:10 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:10 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#183 (master - a8c12d7 : Brendan Hickey): The build was fixed. 08:25:10 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/b62f961d50e2...a8c12d7d946e 08:25:10 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40177899 08:25:10 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 08:27:39 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:39:22 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44:16 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:29 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:10:03 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:36:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:29 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:47:52 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 09:49:13 hmmm, we seem to have intermittent segfaults in the test suite? 09:49:14 doy: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:49:15 https://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/jobs/40142214 09:49:56 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:10 !tell |amethyst it would probably be possible, i'll look into it 09:50:11 doy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 09:59:48 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:14 I tried using guardian golem on a summon-heavy character once, but it was really hard to tell if it was doing anything 10:08:30 wrong channel 10:09:22 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:15:31 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:24 -!- Irrlicht has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:20:11 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:21:31 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:24:20 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:25:14 -!- Nstar has quit [Client Quit] 10:26:11 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:26:36 hm 10:26:36 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:28:24 I may want to try to update the SDL contrib if I can figure out the best way to do so and if it doesn't break anything. 10:28:52 Other than that it is a good time to start an SDL2 branch.... 10:29:55 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:18 diff the existing one against a pristine 1.2.13, apply diff to a pristine 1.2.15 10:32:33 test on windows (there's no problem on mac or linux) 10:32:48 yar :) 10:37:10 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:37:29 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:38:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141031061804]] 10:39:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:22 grunt: gammafunk *seemed* to be working on the sdl 1.2 thing last night; maybe talk to him? 10:39:23 idk 10:39:26 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 10:39:49 drive-by pleasingfungus-ing 10:41:08 oh, he is gone already? 10:42:21 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:02 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:45:38 no I didn't just seem to. I fixed it, converted crawl to sdl2, made crawl into a 3-d roguelike that overtook League of Legends in popularity overnight 10:45:48 ...and i documented every function in the codebase... 10:46:24 but seriously I did start working on a patch, and am upgrading my mac to yosemite now so I can recreate this bug 10:47:07 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 10:48:22 Lasty_: g. golem is a useful spell btw, I kind of use it in two different ways 10:49:25 but yeah re sdl.15, an outright upgrade could work as well 10:49:35 s/.15/1.2.15/ 10:50:19 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:25 maybe we wouldn't even need opengl with SDL2... I'm not completely sure why crawl was ported to opengl in the first place, but since SDL2 does hardware accelerated 2D it may be enough 10:53:57 I think SDL2 rendering can do almost everything we do with opengl, except maybe the alpha gradients used for submerged tiles 10:54:25 (though I'd note that HTML canvas can't do that either, and I haven't seen anyone complain about it so far) 10:54:36 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:55:24 hm 10:57:09 of course that'd be a far larger project than just porting the game to SDL2 10:57:12 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:58:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 10:59:38 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:01:26 the SDL2 render library can also use a software rasterizer 11:01:37 which would finally give us a software rendered version 11:01:41 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:03:15 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:31 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:31 -!- Grasp has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:05:05 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:06:19 oh, huh 11:06:30 I can't build sdl on my system 11:06:53 what 11:06:53 rip 11:07:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1938-ga8c12d7 (34) 11:08:38 gammafunk, what's the error? 11:09:28 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:10:19 Zaba: http://sprunge.us/EMVh 11:11:09 what OS is that on? 11:11:14 hm 11:12:20 Zaba: ubuntu 14.04 11:12:24 hmm 11:12:52 apparently sdl needs a patch 11:13:29 like there is http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/media-libs/libsdl/files/libsdl-1.2.15-const-xdata32.patch 11:13:50 -!- crate__ is now known as crate 11:14:06 I fear that sdl 1.2 will only need more and more patches from now on >_> 11:14:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:39 yeah it seems so 11:15:05 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:11 best to drop tiles altogether 11:15:18 +1 11:15:29 our sdl makefile was just kind of munged together from the minimal one, I assume? 11:15:45 yeah, if nobody steps up to maintain local tiles that's what will have to happen eventually 11:16:02 or at least port them to sdl2 11:16:02 hm I can't even build the SDL contrib on my local system currently 11:16:14 that would already give them some longevity 11:16:17 is…. is this what i think it is? 11:16:25 lobf? 11:16:35 yes? 11:16:44 Grunt, are you getting the same error as gammafunk or something else? 11:16:49 !tell |amethyst alright, travis is now testing gitorious merge requests 11:16:49 doy: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 11:16:52 ...what is "this" and what do you think this is :) 11:17:02 updating mac support?? 11:17:03 Grunt: http://sprunge.us/EMVh 11:17:07 an error like that? 11:17:21 doy: gammafunk: neither 11:17:26 ..fun 11:17:37 there's this fun one first: 11:17:42 src/audio/esd/SDL_esdaudio.c:30:17: fatal error: esd.h: No such file or directory 11:17:42 Grunt: hmm? 11:17:48 (why is it even trying to build that!??) 11:17:50 Grunt: also nice irc tab 11:17:53 umm, yes 11:17:56 lol, esd 11:18:03 ???????????? 11:18:07 yes I installed the esd dev package to make that not happen 11:18:28 hi I am in an environment where that isn't possible 11:18:28 Grunt: probably you'll get my error if you install esd-dev 11:18:40 yeah, i needed to install libasound2-dev and libesd0-dev 11:18:48 Grunt: get root 11:18:56 root or bust 11:18:56 but then started getting xlib linker errors and gave up 11:19:16 gammafunk: that's not the issue; the issue is that I am running on a distribution where esound is recognised as the obsolete abomination it is and isn't distributed any longer :) 11:19:40 squishfish (L18 GrFi) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3135 failed. (D (Sprint)) 11:19:51 but we'd have to remove esd support?!?!?! 11:19:57 oh noes 11:19:58 right? 11:20:08 why is it even building it in the first place? 11:20:12 nobody used that in an eternity 11:20:24 Zaba: it's in the contrib makefile...... 11:20:26 ifeq ($(uname_S),Linux) 11:20:26 SDL_SOURCES += \ src/audio/alsa/*.c \ src/audio/dma/*.c \ src/audio/dsp/*.c \ src/audio/esd/*.c \ 11:20:36 seems like an easy fix at least 11:20:40 again I'm wondering how this makefile was made 11:20:44 -src/audio/esd/*.c \ 11:20:51 Grunt: ...hi 11:21:16 man, wonder if there's anything else that could be removed 11:21:17 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:21:40 most likely not src/video/x11/*.c :) 11:22:22 -!- shnurlf has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:24:14 I guess there's no reason why I can't just put the x11 patch right into the source without the check but 11:26:14 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:12 PleasingFungus: I was momentarily mortally afraid that you've cut petite mort!! 11:32:22 absolutely not 11:32:32 and someone else even improved it! (wheals, I think?) 11:33:03 such a cute title 11:33:22 galehar's heritage :) 11:34:03 -!- lukano has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:34:05 hm 11:34:06 okay 11:34:26 If I apply that gentoo patch and nudge the Makefile and configs a little bit, I can get this to build, and I can get 1.2.15 to build. 11:35:24 Grunt: what are your nudges 11:35:33 I'm nudging at the moment but you are probably further along 11:35:40 remove the esd line in the Makefile 11:35:40 and 11:35:45 if anyone else wants to have access to travis and the github mirror, just let me know your github account name 11:35:52 doy: sgrunt 11:36:16 doy, Zaba 11:36:23 I'll ping you when I figure out what havving access to travis would mean 11:36:36 gammafunk: http://sprunge.us/NXHY 11:37:07 gammafunk: mostly just that it would let you restart or cancel builds 11:37:37 -!- DrKe has quit [] 11:37:37 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:37:53 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:29 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:42:00 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:48:50 ok, I can build 1.2.15 as well 11:49:01 good! 11:49:10 thanks to GruntPatches 11:49:19 now it's just to munge a new makefile? 11:49:25 well 11:49:26 and test windows and osx 11:49:28 we want to make sure-- yes 11:49:39 well I have yosemite almost installed 11:49:48 and it will have new xcode...sigh after I install that 11:51:04 installing a new xcode is INSANELY hard. 11:51:07 (thank you very much, by the way!) 11:51:51 PleasingFungus: it is hard when the yosemite installer has been at "2 minutes remaining" for the last 15 minutes!!!! 11:52:01 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:52:06 Time Reality Distortion Field 11:52:33 wow, messed up as hell 11:52:37 apple has lost their way........ 11:52:48 Bring Back Stebe 11:53:08 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:53:17 consider using borg's revivification if you must 11:53:38 cmd-l? 11:56:37 I am now a proud member of the crawl-ref team. 11:56:39 I am so, so proud. 11:56:58 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:59 gammafunk: how do you use guardian golem? 11:59:28 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:01:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:01:46 Lasty_: since I make a lot of summons, I cast often after sending e.g. ice beasts forward, which it then heals, then I recast it when it becomes inner-flamed 12:02:01 or if I want it to blow up, I might cast it earlier or first 12:02:31 sometimes it works out that it'sthe last thing standing and inner-flamed, so I go from situation 1 to 2 12:02:34 and let it blow up 12:02:38 but the explosions are tricky to get right 12:02:51 yet that's probably how it should be 12:03:27 it's the least-useful L4 for me, but it's still useful and fun to use; it can be extremely good situationally 12:03:43 like that dang mino that resists cold AND elec 12:04:09 hmm, interesting. 12:04:13 I'll have to play around w/ it more. 12:04:24 hmmm, early-game rC+ rElec enemies 12:04:30 lab earth elementals, 12:04:34 it probably is not much more than an inner flame bomb if you don't use other allies 12:04:34 I couldn't tell the difference in summon survivability having it out or not 12:04:52 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:05:32 well if it's not at the front line and it's becomming inner-flamed 12:05:44 then it's doinng its job, and you have to be pretty careful to recast 12:05:49 I've certainly had accidents... 12:06:17 guardian golem is cool, props to whoever came up with it! 12:06:24 an N7 invention 12:06:27 n78291 12:06:29 with tweaks by MPA 12:07:14 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:25 spire and guardian are n7, monstrous and dragon's call and power meaning for ice beast / demon are draco 12:07:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:23 the SGD change and aura and spellforged and forceful dis. 12:08:27 and mana viper, forceful dismissal, servito 12:08:28 I'm a big fan of lightning spire 12:08:29 right those 12:08:43 Forceful dismissal too 12:08:43 do you get much use out of mana viper, gammafunk 12:08:48 oh def 12:08:54 you didn't list it! 12:08:56 for one they're sinv, and two they're fast 12:08:57 I've been pretty happy w/ mana viper 12:09:12 the am is a nice touch, but that ends up being pretty situational 12:09:19 also forest is pretty good 12:09:29 but rather situational as well for me 12:09:29 ...and, right, forest is n7 12:09:58 foreceful diss is a little....weird in practice 12:10:14 not sure how I feel about it, but my build can't really make good use of it 12:10:34 spellforged is a fan favorite 12:10:42 I had trouble making use of it too, but I like the premise and idea. 12:10:45 I may have had a card idea from my logs but I cannot tell you what forceful dismissal was meant to be >_> 12:10:49 doy: looks like I am set up for Travis; thanks! 12:10:55 Seems like it'd be good w/ dragon's call, since you get a stream of high HD monsters to detonate 12:10:56 !diss gammafunk 12:11:09 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:10 imo Aura of Dismissal 12:11:31 yeah haunt spam is pretty ridiculous with forceful as well 12:11:35 combine with dragoncall to get KABOOM 12:11:38 forest was n7 too i think 12:11:46 combine with haunt to get smite KABOOM 12:12:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 12:12:07 ooh 12:12:12 let it target hostile summons too 12:12:13 oh i should learn to read 12:12:18 let gmummies blow themselves up 12:12:21 I think it may be too much and possibly encourage some weird behaviour; it might need more sublte explosion mechanics 12:12:25 that was very deliberately avoided 12:12:31 I remember that much 12:12:49 do not let design get in the way of more explosions!!!!!!!!!!!! 12:12:56 yeah that would be pretty nuts, and don't think you can dismiss that hostile hell sentinel you made with sgd 12:12:57 ??evilmike[explos 12:12:58 I don't have a page labeled evilmike[explos in my learndb. 12:13:01 ??evilmike[explo 12:13:02 evilmike[4/4]: i have a habit of telling people to make things explode 12:13:11 1learn mv evilmike[4] grunt[$] 12:13:35 if you want more explosions go make that combustable powder status I keep wanting to try out 12:13:39 !learn add Grunt do not let design get in the way of more explosions!!!!!!!!!!!! 12:13:40 grunt[24/24]: do not let design get in the way of more explosions!!!!!!!!!!!! 12:14:05 Is there any player with more learndb entries than Grunt? 12:14:14 ??wensley 12:14:15 wensley[1/27]: Thoroughly approves of Mu's Crypt finales. 12:14:21 does he count as a player anymore 12:14:24 ??mikee 12:14:25 mikee[1/27]: Used to be a good player, nerfed in 0.6. Now is a greatplayer! 12:14:37 heh, fair enough 12:14:54 speaking of Crypt endings I should finish polishing this thing I have sitting here 12:15:03 NAME: grunt_crypt_end_undying_sun 12:15:07 ORIENT: centre 12:15:13 let me guess, it has ds 12:15:24 nope 12:15:35 thirty profanes 12:15:40 nope 12:15:48 it places some stone 12:15:50 walls 12:15:54 maybe 12:15:58 <_< 12:15:59 what if it's all metal??? 12:16:13 -!- MiracleKinacle has quit [Client Quit] 12:16:24 it places a floor 12:16:36 !send floorvault gammafunk 12:16:36 Sending gammafunk to floorvault. 12:16:41 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:16:46 !lg wensley 12:16:47 333. Wensley the Brawler (L11 TrAr of Trog), slain by a yak on Lair:3 on 2013-05-26 23:11:08, with 13857 points after 11669 turns and 0:36:39. 12:16:49 !lg mikee 12:16:50 480. mikee the Conqueror (L27 DEGl of Kikubaaqudgha), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2013-05-26 18:33:20, with 1511995 points after 97920 turns and 8:08:33. 12:16:55 hilarious 12:17:13 mikee is secretly Wensley 12:17:28 learn add mikee 12:17:35 ...why does losing a level do 4 damage 12:17:48 wheals: because you have to gain anti-HP 12:17:51 strengthening wraith card? 12:17:51 wheals: the blow to the players ego 12:17:57 does that even do that 12:18:14 because maxhp? 12:18:20 if you're a felid who borg'd to have just 3 maxhp 12:18:25 overhealing's not a thing 12:18:32 no, this is specifically doing 4 damage to you 12:18:34 no more, no less 12:18:45 do the comments explain it 12:18:46 ...haha 12:18:54 trust the comments 12:18:59 fr somebody make ephemeral infusion overheal 12:19:28 FR: spartan armor with regenerating halo shields 12:19:42 FR: quad-damage 12:19:52 ??quad damage 12:19:52 QUAD DAMAGE[1/6]: QUAD DAMAGE! (as in proper Quakes, ie, any but Q3 and QLive) 12:19:54 *QUAD_DAMAGE 12:20:09 actually, combining topics, I wonder what a summon with ephem would be like 12:20:28 ...oh, I have another idea for elixir now, wheeeee 12:20:40 ephemeral elixir 12:20:48 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:21:43 (turn Forceful into a summoning miscast so that Spellbinder can blow up summons <_<) 12:22:00 does it not have enough explos 12:22:04 that is a stupid question. 12:22:12 Does anything have enough explosions???? 12:23:25 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:40 1learn add hangedman 12:24:12 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:24:13 I was going to finish "for you", so that's clearly 1learn add grunt 12:24:23 1learn add spellbinder 12:24:49 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:25:05 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:38 PleasingFungus: i ran out, where’s the “apple lost it’s way” comment come form? 12:25:39 from 12:26:31 From his disappointment with Fiona Apple 12:26:49 heh 12:27:08 she dated paul thomas anderson 12:27:34 who’s a super cool guy 12:30:12 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:53 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:32:11 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:33:30 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:17 (...actually, it would be kind of funny for a hell effect to effectively be "dismiss all your summons") 12:34:41 (maybe with a summoned ally present check for rerolling...) 12:35:28 Probably should be "abjure all summons" so that abjuration-protected summons like TSO angels aren't as strongly affected 12:35:34 well, yes 12:42:12 -!- N78291 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:47 !lg * ktyp=spore killer=deep_elf_high_priest 12:46:48 1. drag0n the Anemomancer (L19 HEWz of Nemelex Xobeh), killed by an exploding deep elf high priest on Vaults:2 (nicolae_vaults_triangles) on 2013-04-27 06:11:50, with 229338 points after 78846 turns and 7:47:08. 12:47:00 !olg * ktyp=spore killer=deep_elf_high_priest 12:47:04 !log * ktyp=spore killer=deep_elf_high_priest 12:47:05 1. drag0n, XL19 HEWz, T:78846: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/drag0n/morgue-drag0n-20130427-061150.txt 12:47:59 fr 12:51:58 Blackmore (L16 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2911: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Depths:1) 12:53:01 theTower: does cloud card moving to escape (emergency I guess) and surrounding monsters with clouds sound useful 12:53:30 mephitic/??? fire/cold miasma/acid by tier or so 12:53:39 -!- Karagy has quit [Client Quit] 12:54:03 interesting 12:54:37 tempted to say steam 12:55:52 Can't load dump files at all 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9148 by foophykins 13:01:13 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:01:59 gammafunk: fwiw haunt + forceful dismissal actually looked pretty shit 13:02:01 Sounds useful, clouds are strong 13:02:08 I mean 13:02:14 it looked like the poison cloud + ignite poison 13:02:16 of summoning 13:02:33 a whole lotta setup for something you could do a lot better with one spell 13:02:37 probably fun to play tho! 13:03:10 // torment_monsters() is called with power 0 because torment is 13:03:10 / UNRESISTABLE except for having torment resistance! E 13:03:16 E 13:03:22 oops 13:03:30 Oh, I thought that was someone's signature 13:03:43 btw, while we're talking about newsummoning, I did elf with abjuration aura for the first time the other day 13:03:46 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:03:47 and it's So Great 13:03:53 "fuck you, summoners" 13:05:45 pleasingfungus: what does shatterhaunt count as then 13:06:35 ...counterproductive? 13:06:57 it's not counterproductive, haunt summons are all insubstantial 13:07:04 vulgar display of power 13:07:27 PleasingFungus: i'm not really sure that's the case when multiple explosions overlap, it might get a bit silly 13:07:38 well I mean 13:07:52 I was literally watching someone do haunt + forceful dismissal spam for a good chunk of extended 13:08:24 and it was like... it worked? but it would have been a lot easier for him to just use dragoncall + haunt instead (both of which he had castable) 13:08:34 well dcall is L9 13:08:35 sometimes he did dragoncall + haunt + forceful dismissal 13:09:01 summon greater demon is the best dismissal combo I think (though if you mistime it you have some problems) 13:09:15 yeah, that does seem like the obvious combo :) 13:09:18 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09:25 what were the sgd changes that were mentioned? I never really played with old sgd 13:09:38 they're never first to act when they become hostile 13:09:45 ahhhh 13:09:53 tbh I'm always still scared to do shit like 13:09:56 eat chunks 13:10:01 when there's a gd out 13:10:03 yeah you should be 13:10:18 I'd just turn on abjuration before eating but the duration is so short :( 13:10:21 that's like 5 turns 13:10:32 I think it's 3 turns these days 13:10:35 but ya 13:10:38 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8775c94ab80febb6c3c4fa3c967e77e82993b02f 13:10:53 also the charm and duration stuff were tweaked 13:10:59 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:15 yeah 13:11:55 for me SGD is a lot better than hydra these days 13:12:12 fore more melee oriented types though, hydra would be preferable 13:12:17 mm, risk/reward rations 13:12:27 ??SGD 13:12:27 summon greater demon[1/1]: Summons a 1 or 2, the mightiest classes of demonry. Chance of summoning a hostile demon is 6/power. Even if originally friendly, a 1 summoned by this spell will turn hostile shortly before timing out. Level 7. 13:12:32 so dangerous... but so tasty!!! 13:12:40 one weird things is that hostile demons from summon demon are waaaay harder to abjure that those from sgd 13:12:54 probably because of that duration difference 13:12:59 their grip on this plane is more tenuous 13:14:15 the hostile ordinary demons are probably a bit too hard to abjure tbh (it can take 3 tries), but it's not the end of the world 13:14:42 the end of the world is when the demons come without the summoning part 13:14:50 the abjuring part 13:14:51 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:15:04 since you'll end your world pretty quickly 13:15:09 !send theTower DEMONS 13:15:09 Sending DEMONS to theTower. 13:15:16 devils, too 13:15:23 no no it's a demon pit 13:15:27 not a demon tower 13:18:32 !send theTower digital devils 13:18:33 Sending digital devils to theTower. 13:19:15 I would call this place a junkyard, yes 13:20:24 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:35 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:24:52 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:59 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:33:09 I wonder if the "Press ? for a list of commands and other information" line could be tweaked somehow to point people at ?/ 13:33:58 since a lot of players don't know that and its useful descriptions exist, and it'd rather help a lot of some areas like cards 13:33:59 Oh, can we figure out a way to get a finer degree of control over summon durations? 13:34:07 Thinking mainly of the mirror here. 13:34:15 but it would be useful for other things. 13:34:16 theTower: Ctrl-O hints at ?/ 13:34:39 hmm, that is true 13:35:04 there should probably be more places, but it's not completely esoteric 13:35:17 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:35:38 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1797-ge850a78: Change the Cloud card. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 34+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e850a780e1d5 13:35:42 in practice it seems to be pretty esoteric 13:35:53 ...ohh, interesting 13:36:13 cannot force players to read documentation :) 13:36:20 true enough 13:36:21 what does cloud_debugging do 13:36:35 it outsources your debugging to The Cloud 13:36:37 some things: possibly it should never place clouds on monsters, steam clouds are kind of weird (they move), the card name is boring 13:36:39 I wonder if this makes the "enemies don't walk into clouds they're immune to" code better or worse? 13:36:45 ...steam clouds move, huh 13:36:51 ...they move, what 13:37:07 -!- osklington has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:37:38 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:47 addressing the names could be done with a lot of other cards, I'm not too worried about that >_> 13:38:54 the Hermit card 13:39:07 no that's for solitude 13:39:14 mmmm. 13:39:48 gammafunk: how goes the X-periment 13:40:02 it's been at one minute remainig for like 13:40:04 45 minutes 13:40:10 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:40:18 r i p 13:40:23 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:40:34 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:59 so in conclusion we need to redraw every tile in the game from scratch. 13:41:09 Any objections? 13:41:29 I'm confused about how this links back to the carousel and the centrifuge 13:41:32 apparently this install taking forever thing is a known issue 13:41:48 oh yeah I think I heard something about that 13:42:26 I wonder if it'll happen to me. 13:42:28 that'd be funny. 13:42:34 oh yeah, you can bring up the install log 13:42:40 and see that it's still doingn stuff 13:42:41 sigh 13:42:58 r i p 13:43:31 I remember reading somewhere that a lot of OS X time bars are just "estimate how long it will take to do at the outset and use that for the time estimate no matter what" 13:43:33 PleasingFungus: hey if you ls / how man dirs are there after usr? 13:44:22 gammafunk, what exactly is it doing for you? I've heard that if you have macports/homebrew stuff installed, the update will spend a lot of time doing something to those files 13:44:23 bin games include lib local sbin share src 13:44:27 PleasingFungus: oh that would be ls /Volumes/Macintosh HD/ 13:44:30 oh 13:44:36 that was /usr 13:44:47 yeah it's on usr atm 13:44:55 I don't have a /Volumes, supposedly 13:45:02 ...welp 13:45:10 What is BASELINE_DELAY, I can't find BASELINE DELAY \= in source. 13:45:12 d a n g 13:45:18 Er rather, how is the value set. 13:45:19 Zaba: yeah that's what'shappening 13:45:27 !source BASELINE_DELAY 13:45:30 Couldn't find BASELINE_DELAY in the Crawl source tree 13:45:31 gammafunk, I just backed up my /usr/local into a tarball in ~ before updating... 13:45:33 or rather usr/local stuff 13:45:34 ? ? ? 13:45:37 shugdite (L27 MiFi) (Slime:1) 13:45:38 mysterious... 13:45:50 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:50 mineral: it's #defined in some header file 13:45:53 oooh, ok 13:45:54 (its value is 10) 13:45:56 ty :> 13:46:00 Zaba: can you travel back in time and tell me that? 13:46:05 I think there's an app for that 13:46:07 (it means 1 normal turn = 10 aut) 13:46:13 defines.h 13:46:16 yes 13:46:19 gammafunk, if a time machine ever gets invented I might do that 13:46:27 Ah, that makes a lot of sense out of the comments around it. 13:46:29 and then it won't matter how much time it took to invent it 13:46:42 personal list of last stuff on cards in that branch: let tomb work over stairs, make velocity apply slow / haste to both sides as a negative effect instead of swapping the speeds on targets, drain monsters during banshee, malmutate monsters during degeneration, make elixir apply ephemeral infusion on allies, and let Helm apply stoneskin / phase shift to allies randomly per-ally at level 1 / 2 13:46:43 Grunt: I wonder how much stuff would break if you changed that 13:46:50 ...that was longer than I thought it was 13:46:52 BASELINE_DELAY=27; 13:46:56 PleasingFungus: let's find out ? ? ? ? ? 13:46:59 noooo 13:47:05 too much breakage!!! 13:47:15 !break PleasingFungus 13:47:40 (issue: Phase Shift is not a mon ench right now) 13:47:41 !breakfast PleasingFungus 13:47:48 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47:54 plah 13:47:55 what about the things were you get turned into a useless form or you get a lot of hostile summons early on with no crusade likely 13:48:07 useless form is gone 13:48:18 that's good 13:48:36 bones replaced with rangers means one less hostile summon, same with elementals and herd 13:48:42 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:48:45 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:48:59 dpeg_: lunch soon! 13:49:06 I think it would be mostly easy to ench-ify Phase Shift 13:49:07 but 13:49:09 blink frogs 13:49:13 crash frogs? 13:49:19 I guess I buffed dance card hostile summons early game 13:49:22 they're blink frogs again though 13:49:30 %git HEAD^{/crash frog} 13:49:31 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-2377-g92d52c9: Make crash frogs blink frogs again. 10(2 years, 5 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=92d52c9cc9ef 13:49:33 the mighty quarterstaff of venom 13:49:37 I added crash frogs!!!! 13:49:37 strictly speaking foxfire is marginally more dangerous since the summons are a little stronger a little faster 13:49:41 in my first commit 13:49:48 !debug PleasingFungus 13:49:49 Grunt sets a breakpoint on PleasingFungus. PleasingFungus struggles to resist. You crash... Would you like your variables identified? 13:49:49 and there are no butterflies 13:50:30 repulsiveness is probably slightly more dangerous too 13:50:46 so, two negated, three buffed >_> 13:51:01 todo: extremely ugly things for Repulsiveness 13:51:03 !negate theTower 13:51:07 . . . . . . 13:51:12 noooo my buffssssss 13:51:33 (imo make Repulsiveness grant R/DMsl instead of being a summoning card) 13:51:47 * theTower rolls his eyes 13:52:02 (did we change that one mutation message yet............) 13:52:36 Grunt is feeling negative. 13:53:42 btw, with my console glyph colours changed, is now a good time to beg for announcement of monster weapon brands? 13:54:24 !source tilepick.cc:2434 13:54:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tilepick.cc;hb=HEAD#l2434 13:54:40 extremely uglies probably wouldn't be too safe as allies considering their irradiate, no 13:54:56 everywhere else in the code, the "inwards" prop is a mindex of the monster that is inwards 13:55:06 everywhere except there, where it's treated as a coord_def 13:55:11 dpeg_: I'm sorry :( I've been working on other stuff 13:55:18 PleasingFungus: hey, no problem 13:55:22 I have a very partial initial implementation, but there are technical issues with it 13:55:37 oh i'm wrong 13:55:37 PleasingFungus: it'd make you an immediate smash hit with the crowd. Groupies etc.! 13:55:41 hahahaha 13:55:49 actually there's gonna be a huge amount of bitching and whining 13:55:52 it's is used for a coord_def for monster_infos 13:56:00 which is one of the reasons I haven't had that much enthusiasm 13:56:12 but I did say that I would do it and then blew it off, which is shitty. 13:56:20 i am ready to make nice tiles for display, which can soften the blowback 13:56:27 so I'll do it after I finish my current project (a shield reform draft) 13:56:28 roctavian: !?!?! 13:56:49 i mean, there's no reason if the brands are announced to not show flame/ice/etc on the tiles, right? 13:57:01 PleasingFungus: you rock! (I have a hard time imaginging there will be complaints, but let's see how it turns out: bitching vs groupieing...) 13:57:13 it'd be horrible to redo for each kind of weapon but i could probably make an overlay? 13:57:13 * theTower wonders if anybody will be annoyed at cards 13:57:25 roctavian: it sounds like you'd want to show it in like 13:57:27 theTower: answer to this is always yes 13:57:28 one of the corners 13:57:34 top-left and top-right are taken 13:57:36 I forget if the others are 13:57:43 oh my god tentacle tiles code 13:57:44 i was figuring over the weapon tile, if possible 13:57:57 There will always be someone who is highly annoyed, drops the game and tells everyone about it. 13:57:58 a semitransparent aura sort of thing 13:58:07 sorry, people who liked 8 komodos or 8 hounds, people who liked bone dragon 13:58:20 dpeg: surely we already lost people with the initial nemelex nerf anyway 13:58:33 theTower: lose some, get some. It doesn't matter (to me, at least(. 13:59:03 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 13:59:06 FR: randart deck "penultimate deck of Nemelex Xobeh" 13:59:23 maybe we should add a WoW reference 13:59:30 Grinder 13:59:34 "first deck of Nemelex Xobeh" 14:00:08 comes with a portable altar 14:00:13 gammafunk: pauldrons 14:00:14 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:01:14 roctavian: over the weapon tile would be thematic, but sounds quite difficult 14:01:19 and might be harder to seee 14:01:21 *see 14:01:28 idk. I will leave it to your judgement as an artist 14:01:45 -!- mineral is now known as read 14:01:57 it may be easier to just make alternate tiles for everything 14:02:44 roctavian: does this fit with Grunt's decree that all tiles have to be redrawn? :) 14:03:40 dpeg_: he did post a request on mantis for icons for every single monster spell 14:04:16 !send roctavian TENTACLE THROW 14:04:17 Sending TENTACLE THROW to roctavian. 14:04:26 I should also finish up ROBIN OF THE STRONG ARM 14:04:29 I'm gonna remove that 14:04:30 and push her before she rots too much 14:04:43 but with enough time and procrastination from real life duties, there will be tiles for everything 14:05:16 i like "robin of the strong arm" 14:05:31 no one else does :( 14:05:53 remember quarterstaff of the hellbinder? 14:06:01 augh 14:06:17 PleasingFungus: not true. I am sure many people like it (I do, too). 14:07:35 :) 14:07:40 ty both 14:07:59 anyway I need to fix her kill messages & do some preliminary playtesting 14:08:04 also, think more about loot 14:08:49 I wanted to give some reward for killing her (in line with the hypothetical uniques reform) but idk what. a helmet seems stylish but technically difficult 14:08:59 I think you'd have to do something like the nikola hack, and hacks make grunt sad 14:09:44 -!- Utis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:09:44 how does that work 14:09:48 the nikola glove thing 14:10:35 nikola wears his gloves as a shield. 14:11:14 ya 14:11:47 Gastronok has a hat, so why shouldn't a unique goblin? 14:12:27 PleasingFungus: yes, I love uniques giving items. Been slacking on (re)suggesting the unique stuff, but I wanted to add to it that items should always be glowing: it is a lot better if Gastronok's cap, say, is always adorned, even if just +1 without ego. 14:13:01 gastronok wears his hat as body armour 14:13:28 rename hats to slug bardings 14:13:35 dpeg_: idk. I think it would be okay for it to be non-glowing; on d:2-4, just a +0 helmet is pretty good 14:13:50 consider the crazy yiuf 14:13:53 -!- read has quit [Quit: off to class] 14:14:02 (and it always has a *chance* of being glowing!) 14:15:19 for flavour I'd suggest the item has a chance of being gloves of strength 14:15:26 imo 14:15:28 give monsters 14:15:28 hahaha 14:15:29 . . . that are worn on the head 14:15:30 slots for everything 14:15:32 !!!!!!!!! 14:15:35 ! ! ! ! 14:15:41 the memory cost.......... 14:16:02 just 14:16:03 deep elf annihilators with full slots hanging out in the treasure rooms 14:16:11 make them use vectors for equipment or something 14:16:20 Give monsters an vector of unspecified slots 14:16:20 vectors!!!! 14:16:20 only use as much memory as the number of slots they have........ 14:16:25 this is terrifyingly advanced 14:16:26 Grunt got there first 14:16:46 the more terrifying bit is clearly figuring out what all monsters should or shouldn't be able to wear 14:16:46 * Lasty_ gestures at Grunt. Grun slows down! 14:16:54 * Grunt is unaffected. 14:16:55 *Grunt :p 14:16:59 * Grunt gestures. Grunt seems to speed up. 14:17:01 poor grum 14:17:07 also, if anyone can give me pointers for where to look wrt ranged kill messages 14:17:17 so that you can be killed by robin with a thrown Ijyb 14:17:38 or a polymorphed jessica? 14:17:42 malign offering maybe? it had a buggy message that was fixed 14:17:56 oh, interesting thought 14:18:00 I'm not fond of that fix, "with a malign offering" sounds like it was thrown at them 14:18:01 %git :/ffering 14:18:02 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1557-gc690f04: Restore Malign Offering's level and spellpower 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c690f0411f96 14:18:13 grunt: can cherubs wear four caps 14:18:30 ah, yeah, that wouldn't be right; the current behaviour is the same as the bugged malign offering one 14:18:35 but we want a different fix 14:18:51 // Nothing to do here. 14:18:51 // Except fix the tentacle end's pointer, idiot. 14:18:56 hahaha 14:18:57 Only if we can get ettins to wear two amulets. 14:19:24 two amulets of regeneration 14:19:31 just need monster regeneration to not be boring 14:19:49 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:21:25 -!- eliana has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22:16 -!- RoGGa has quit [Client Quit] 14:25:25 hydras are boring???? 14:25:49 crimson imps 14:25:55 rephrase 14:25:56 uncapped 14:26:24 Bloax should love it 14:26:30 he's all about faster regen 14:26:59 yes 14:27:01 the lernaean hydra with 27 regen amulets sounds good 14:27:11 in fact you guys really should try playing with higher hp/mp regen 14:27:18 it's Quite Pleasant 14:27:35 that's why i play in wizmode, not dying is quite pleasant 14:27:46 well they don't really help with that 14:27:52 you die very well 14:28:03 but life is more pleasant 14:28:08 hm 14:28:14 oh when can we get hydras to roar in surround sound 14:28:15 <_< 14:28:18 unless we're talking about like 14:28:19 i wonder if i can add a CrawlStoreValue without breaking everything 14:28:20 xl1 spmo 14:29:50 looks like: nope 14:29:52 rip 14:30:44 hydra roar harmonics are precise 14:31:05 so do i have to use int64s to store mids in props 14:31:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:32:35 looks like everything else uses get_int() 14:32:36 so ok 14:32:36 The hydra roars in eight-part harmony! 14:34:01 !send gammafunk Xperimental progress 14:34:02 Sending Xperimental progress to gammafunk. 14:34:25 are we working on support for X11? 14:34:31 :P 14:34:40 Xtreme Crawl 14:36:32 xtreme crawl has background xom effects no matter what you're doing 14:36:43 especially during step from time 14:36:44 you.religion = GOD_XOM 14:37:58 xom effects during step from time sounds like a good way to crash the game 14:38:08 !debug Xom 14:38:09 Grunt sets a breakpoint on Xom. Xom resists with almost no effort. You crash... Would you like your variables identified? 14:38:59 can't it happen through xom wrath 14:40:13 who goes xom -> chei 14:40:22 who knows 14:40:44 Grunt: thx for infiniplex reply! 14:40:59 !lm * god.abandon=xom lg:god=cheibriados s=name 14:41:00 114 milestones for * (god.abandon=xom lg:god=cheibriados): 7x LiLin, 5x Ayutzia, 4x Elynae, 4x RedScotch, 3x NAKTA, 3x dialectric, 3x WalkerBoh, 2x kagans, 2x Naibos, 2x simpaon, 2x TAS2012, 2x KaosKat, 2x Kalir, 2x Anti, AkioCrescent, bmfx, dck, swiechu, thetao, MutationAddict, stranger, hyperboh, lomarcan77, Iskender, a3minhero, nutsauce, squarelos, Danakh, cortana, nooodl, Spcecb8, Aether, sym,... 14:41:02 Sequell does 14:41:57 Grunt: it finally finished and is restarting 14:42:01 Sequell knows all 14:42:09 gammafunk: mm 14:42:09 although there's another progress bar so I'm scared 14:42:20 1learn add progress 14:42:23 gammafunk: I'm about to try a Windows build in my debian chroot 14:42:46 holy crap this isn't crashing everywhere 14:42:59 Grunt: I just did cp -r * ../contrib/sdl from inside the sdl-1.2.15 dir 14:43:08 and then patched, how did you update the repo? 14:43:21 and also have you done anything with the makefile? 14:43:23 I used configure 14:44:22 gammafunk: I took geekosaur's suggestion of diffing our current repo against SDL 1.2.14 (which is the version it has according to the git log), applied that to 1.2.15, removed esd from Makefile, applied the gentoo patch, and made that config change I linked you to earlier 14:44:52 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:44:55 interesting, and our Makefile worked for you? 14:44:58 (the patch doesn't 100% cleanly apply because of some backported fixes but just ignoring the things that don't apply seems to be safe) 14:45:04 gammafunk: other than the esd thing, yes 14:46:19 -!- primordial has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:47:20 hm we should check how up to date our other contribs are 14:47:33 it looks like Windows is going to be okay with SDL 1.2.15?? 14:47:43 (it's building Crawl at least) 14:49:10 !seen |amethyst 14:49:11 I last saw |amethyst at Thu Nov 6 04:08:50 2014 UTC (16h 40m 21s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 14:49:33 well 2.5GB for new xcode, 1hr 6 minutes 14:49:40 gammafunk: rip... 14:49:40 let me see if it can compile with current xcode 14:49:40 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 14:50:28 oh great, after the upgrade I no longer have xcode 14:50:35 r i p ! ! ! 14:51:18 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:26 Grunt: nsubst for _maze just to reliably get enough monsters? 14:51:35 johnstein: no 14:51:37 johnstein: for the rune :) 14:51:43 ooh 14:51:45 yea 14:51:47 good idea 14:54:01 Grunt: can you push a branch in maybe the sdl-crawl repo with your sdl? 14:54:10 gammafunk: one second 14:58:42 gammafunk: done; the branch is called 1.2.15 14:58:55 you are the best Grunt out of the other Grunts 14:59:28 what does '=...' mean in GDB? 14:59:32 there are other Grunts? 14:59:36 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:58 cool, that builds no problem on my system 15:01:02 ! 15:01:10 my ubuntu system, I should say 15:01:16 hrm, how do I make my build use this contrib sdl? 15:01:29 go to contrib/sdl and git checkout 1.2.15 15:01:32 well 15:01:44 you might need to git pull and/or git checkout origin/1.2.15 first 15:01:50 no....I mean 15:01:51 for crawl 15:01:54 when building crawl 15:01:55 OH 15:01:55 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:02:05 I think it's using my systems sdl 15:02:06 you can build with all the contribs with BUILD_ALL=y 15:02:08 and I think 15:02:12 you can just use the SDL with BUILD_SDL=y 15:03:50 okay it looks like Windows builds and runs under this regime 15:03:53 which is g o o d 15:03:58 hrm, fail to link 15:04:02 oh? 15:04:22 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1938-ga8c12d7 (34) 15:04:59 http://sprunge.us/ILLV 15:05:01 Grunt: ^ 15:05:11 h m m m m m m m m 15:05:33 maybe I shouldtry allcontrib 15:05:37 dang spaces 15:06:52 gammafunk: links for me with just BUILD_SDL 15:06:55 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 15:07:10 what's with all the merfolks led by a hound 15:07:14 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 15:07:53 well at least we have scrolls to deal with them 15:08:39 Grunt: yeah same error if I build all 15:09:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:17 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:12:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:25 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:12:53 gammafunk: hm 15:13:00 gammafunk: apparently you are missing a -ldl 15:13:03 but 15:13:11 I am trying to figure out why that is a problem at all...... 15:14:28 %git f31470d552 15:14:28 07pointless_02 * 0.8.0-a0-3844-gf31470d: Fix [2941], a crash involving kraken heads killing themselves 10(3 years, 11 months ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f31470d5528c 15:17:04 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:17:41 Grunt: do contrib sdl libs get statically linked? 15:18:37 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:52 Grunt: I tried exporting LDFLAGS with that 15:18:52 and it didn't work 15:18:58 but I'm not sure if the linker saw it 15:19:03 LIBSDL := contrib/install/$(ARCH)/lib/libSDL.a 15:19:06 johnny0: looks like it 15:19:30 yeah that's a problem 15:20:29 sdl-config normally takes care of the linker flags for static linking -- they are not that simple 15:22:18 gammafunk: to be clear 15:22:28 gammafunk: does your build work with the contrib normally? 15:22:33 as in 15:22:36 not the 1.2.15 branch 15:22:53 probably not, but let me see 15:22:59 h m m m m m m m m m m m 15:23:28 aaaaugh 15:23:45 KILL_MISC is usually used as a "unknown kill type" 15:24:12 but for some tentacle code it means "don't sever the rest of the tentacle because of this" 15:24:30 w h a t 15:24:34 Grunt: yeah SDL doesn't even compile for me 15:24:41 . . . 15:24:55 (apparently I am) 15:25:00 (s p a c i n g o u t) 15:25:28 I guess for linux we just kind of expect people to have access to working sdl1.2/sdl1.2-dev packages 15:26:22 -!- foophykins_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:26:28 in ~ 45 min I can hopefully test new xcode with your 1.2.15 branch, at least 15:26:59 I'm not sure it's that critical that our sdl compiles on linux, since linux systems tend to have 1.2 through packages 15:27:02 PleasingFungus: are you around? 15:27:04 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:27:13 geekosaur: or you, for that matter 15:27:18 he has old xcode fwiw 15:27:29 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:27:35 I am also not on the appropriate computer 15:27:40 rip. 15:27:43 when I get home in ~4 hours, I will update it 15:27:53 and then I will be available to test new xcode 15:28:01 newnewnewnewnewnewnewnewnewxcode 15:28:07 moo? 15:28:13 m 15:28:17 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:28:18 mū 15:28:29 mu_ 15:28:36 無 15:28:38 since apparently he sometimes compiles crawl and makes commits? I've heard that anyways 15:28:44 gamma 15:28:56 γ 15:29:03 geekosaur: grunt made a 1.2.15 branch in our sdl-crawl repo, do you have new xcode? 15:29:14 on 10.9, yes 15:29:26 geekosaur: I want to see how much of an impact using 1.2.15 instead has on OS X builds 15:29:29 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:29:30 if you could try to compile it with the apple toolchain, that'd be helpful 15:29:30 I don't normally buuld against the crawl contribs but I can set up a separate build area 15:29:38 <3 15:29:41 -!- John___ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:29:46 (what a geek) 15:29:49 osaur 15:30:50 PleasingFungus: I love your operating systems 8 hour installation time 15:31:34 8h seems a bit long 15:31:42 it was very carefully copying 15:31:48 all of my stuff in usr/local 15:31:52 ! 15:32:04 stebe would never have allowed this. 15:32:04 . 15:32:05 I guess all the macports or w/e? 15:32:05 (however at the rate it is going, this git clone may take that long >.>) 15:32:16 geekosaur: sorry :( 15:32:19 /usr/local wouldn't be macports 15:32:34 endlessly copying TeX files at the end with "less than a minute remaining" 15:32:43 gammafunk: I guess it had 15:32:45 ah, TeX, yes 15:32:46 more than a minute amount of work 15:33:17 yeah I'm not sure how I installed tex 15:33:39 need to make a !stage-hook command for Grunt 15:33:47 it's the only thing macports will use from outside of itself if it exists, because it's so freaking huge 15:34:06 really, you brought this on yourself 15:34:11 and by 'this', I mean tex 15:34:20 * dpeg_ uses tex daily 15:34:28 (gnerally it insists on building its own versions of things to avoid pain and suffering when options don't match or things are updated out of step --- homebrew has adopted this as well out of necessity) 15:34:30 it's very 15:34:33 hi-tex 15:35:38 i'm convinced that nobody who has ever edited monster_die knows how it works 15:35:47 * PleasingFungus raises his hand. 15:35:58 (I certainly don't know how it works) 15:36:01 * Grunt lowers PleasingFungus' hand. 15:36:07 rip 15:36:29 KILL_HAND_LOWERED 15:36:31 wheals: do you think that those who have edited it know how it works? 15:36:52 for that matter, do you think that those who haven't edited it know how it works? 15:37:15 probably nobody knows anything! 15:37:16 maybe the people who knew how it works stayed so far away from it that they never edited it, i guess :P 15:39:10 well i've edited bits and pieces 15:39:16 and I know how those bits work but 15:39:21 it's like the monster ai code 15:39:30 knows how the entire thing works? pfffff 15:39:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:39:32 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:40:12 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:55 oh my god you can press enter to repeat last command in gdb? 15:41:13 what do you press to press enter 15:41:19 -!- flamekin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:41:37 enter 15:42:35 confusing 15:43:16 // Dual holiness, Trog and Kiku like dead demons but not undead. 15:43:27 didn't this become an unthing at some point 15:43:55 large abomination (04X) | Spd: 6-12 | HD: 11 | HP: 24-62 | AC/EV: 0/0 | Dam: 40 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(100), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 336 | Sz: Big | Int: plant. 15:43:55 %??large abomination 15:44:05 well trog certainly doesn't care about killing undead 15:44:12 (but he does care about killing demons) 15:45:14 apparently the same is true of kiku 15:47:27 wheals: I tested in wizmode and they give kiku piety and I know aboms are dispellable so apparently not 15:48:03 yeah that comment was just above the code that makes them demonic for those purposes 15:48:11 abominations were unified into one type a while ago 15:48:16 but AIUI they're no longer demonic for any other purposes at all 15:48:22 but possibly that code was to preserve that bizarre behaviour 15:48:29 that only makes sense to people who played back when? 15:48:50 haha, i was wondering whether i broke malign gateway since it kept turning hostile immediately 15:49:03 turns out you need your magic skills to be above 0 to cast it well :P 15:49:09 hahaha 15:49:18 also see forgetting to give yourself decent int 15:49:34 and wondering why firestorms randomized blast is always small 15:49:39 and thinking you broke firestorm 15:50:11 hrm 15:50:16 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:50:20 so it appears our freetype is also out of date 15:50:26 i hope my save compat doesn't end up giving hydras thousands of heads 15:50:47 sounds like a feature 15:50:48 I think there's a clamp on hydraheads 15:50:56 but maybe you'll make them all 27-headed! 15:51:03 when they're chopped, but the code can mess around 15:51:03 which would be nice 15:51:12 see = GOD_XOM not giving wrath 15:51:13 o.O I am on 10.9.5, why is this using the 10.10 SDK 15:51:15 geekosaur: does freetype not build for you? 15:52:05 geekosaur: I suspect most of our contribs are outdated 15:52:18 freetype got lots of deprecation warnings and a compile error on a block (apple's closure extension) (?!) 15:52:19 especially sdl-android which deserves to go die in a fire 15:52:29 !firestorm sdl-android 15:52:29 wheals points at sdl-android and mumbles some strange words. A raging storm of fire appears! The great blast of fire engulfs sdl-android! 15:52:34 !hellfire sdl-android 15:52:34 * Sequell ends sdl-android in hellfire! You hear a strangely unpleasant explosion. 15:53:09 gamma i love youuuuu 15:53:13 s/un/ 15:53:31 oh 15:53:44 sort -n without setting the separator... 10.10 < 10.9 15:55:58 -!- krag has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:49 -!- Zooty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:57:45 gammafunk: 20-headed 15:58:47 so to get the sort right, I find I need it to be: sort -t. -n -k2 15:58:55 whch will be problematic on very old OS X 15:59:08 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:59:59 but of course modern OS X doesn't accept traditional sort field specs... 16:01:36 ok, it's building with the 10.9 SDK 16:01:54 I can't do 10.10 here (going to be a while before an upgrade happens) 16:02:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:02:05 hrm, spoke too soonb 16:02:07 geekosaur: gammafunk seems to be working on the 10.10 front 16:02:08 ? 16:02:26 src/video/quartz/SDL_QuartzVideo.h:94:5: error: unknown type name 'CGDirectPaletteRef' 16:02:34 w h a t 16:03:00 geekosaur: oh, did you tell the sdl contrib to use 1.2.15? 16:03:24 yes, I cd-d t it and did `git branch 1.2.15` 16:03:37 result seemed to think it was the 1.2.15 release (configure at least...) 16:03:38 h m 16:03:43 ah 16:03:47 http://hg.libsdl.org/SDL/rev/e9466ead70e5 16:04:20 fuuun 16:04:39 i bet SDL 1.5 would fix this 16:05:35 geekosaur: yeah people using new xcode were getting that error and the opengl thingy error 16:05:37 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:51 but I think there's a patch out there we can apply maybe.. 16:05:55 I think that was the macports patch 16:06:01 2 minutes untile xcode for me, so 16:06:36 geekosaur: I remember seem some patch online specifically for that typedef you mentioned, but I'd have to dig it up 16:07:12 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07:17 GEN main.png 16:07:20 er 16:07:37 /bin/sh: line 1: 92909 Segmentation fault: 11 tool/tilegen.elf -i dc-main.txt 16:08:10 -!- backslashecho has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:08:46 https://svn.macports.org/repository/macports/trunk/dports/devel/libsdl/files/no-CGDirectPaletteRef.patch 16:10:54 -!- eliotn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:11:29 I should add that to the contrib 16:11:43 (on the 1.2.15 branch) 16:12:29 so tilegen.elf repeatably dumps core in libobjc.A.dylib`_read_images 16:13:08 . . . . . . 16:13:39 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:17:10 * geekosaur tries something else 16:18:06 this may be unrelated, I cut macports out of my $PATH (10.9 and 10.10 are being plagued by a stupid libtool bug) 16:18:19 right, it's building now 16:20:00 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:20:20 mm 16:20:58 might also be something silly like picking up config flags from macports builds that won't work with the contrib builds 16:21:29 which is why I need to someday set up some VMs to play with this stuff 16:22:53 ok, so it built with 2 warnings, both known (gluBuild2DMipmaps and -pthread) 16:23:24 -!- link_1081 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:23:38 ! 16:24:14 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 16:24:21 Grunt: i think the new spell format broke %?? vault parsing 16:24:25 the unspeakable: slime creature hp:10000 hd:100 name:The_Unspeakable 16:24:25 %??spec: the unspeakable 16:24:35 r i p 16:24:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:50 and the result runs, to the extent of letting me start a new game 16:24:53 !! 16:25:30 huh, xray vision doesn't let you see submerged monsters 16:25:35 they must be submerged real good 16:26:51 wtf 16:26:54 this seems to work 16:27:01 i must be missing something 16:27:56 Grunt: well....sdl seems to build in 10.10 with xcode 16:28:00 for 1.2.15 16:28:05 let me try making crawl tiles 16:28:18 bug: hitting a kraken tentacle with the AXE OF WOE doesn't kill the kraken 16:28:49 -!- Calisca2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:32:24 wheals: imo find more realistic bugs 16:32:26 these are some frightening warnings though 16:32:45 * wheals squashes Grunt like a bug!!!!! 16:33:03 how is it unrealistic anyway 16:33:25 you know what's bad? grand avatar movement 16:33:33 v. v. bad!!! 16:33:33 -!- Ratboiler_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:33:33 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:34:20 just replace grand avatars with grand krakens imo 16:34:35 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:34:49 just replace grand avatars with gravatars 16:35:07 finally, wordpress commenters can fully contribute to the dungeon crawl experience... 16:37:07 as if the wordpress comments aren't the most important DCSS community already 16:37:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:39:28 I'd like it if we could make travis-ci troll on the wordpress comments as well 16:39:45 You broke the build gammafunk....you...broke it... 16:42:11 continuous integration? more like continuous harassment... 16:42:20 hey, listen! hey, listen! (you broke the build) 16:42:34 need to give it zingers 16:42:44 I guess I can do that, since I am a member of the Github Crawl-Ref Team 16:42:52 or uh 16:42:58 is it just in the normal repository? I'm not sure 16:47:29 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:49:05 !tell |amethyst thank you very much for pointing that out - apart from g++4.7, fixed. 16:49:06 Napkin: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 16:49:30 Yay! 16:50:00 (You gain the sysadmin prowess of a mighty hero.) 16:50:35 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:55 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1939-g7ba8076: Mindexicide: ouch(), scorefile_entry. 10(4 hours ago, 34 files, 139+ 143-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ba80760b1be 16:50:55 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1940-g8a05d2b: Clean up some Torment code. 10(4 hours ago, 6 files, 52+ 60-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a05d2b9773c 16:50:55 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1941-g74c23d6: Mindexicide: fun with tentacles! 10(2 hours ago, 10 files, 123+ 148-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74c23d6dded4 16:50:57 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:48 wheals: how many crash bugs do you think these will cause 16:52:10 i did make test! 16:52:14 hahaha 16:52:16 good 16:52:30 and tested save compat, and some abyss bot 16:54:01 Grunt: Huge success for great justice with 10.10 and the sdl-1.2.15 branch! 16:54:14 man, how old is that torment_monsters() comment you removed, wheals? 16:54:30 well, that guy is pre-dcss 16:55:06 gammafunk: \o/ 16:55:17 gammafunk: now for the sdl-2 branch 16:55:20 I think we can ship the contrib then 16:55:21 but 16:55:24 I need to leave for dinner 16:55:28 I will do that when I get home 16:55:46 I don't know, send an email to the secret list 16:55:54 to see if we approve of your having dinner 16:56:02 this is a Team Effort after all 16:56:14 wheals: I *think* doxygen comments might need to start on the line after the opening /**? 16:56:21 o 16:56:23 that's how I've done it, anyway 16:56:25 i can never remember 16:56:28 I'm not sure if geekosaur got 10.9 working though 16:56:32 ty for writing that!! 16:56:41 I like comments :) 16:56:41 I did 16:56:47 oh good 16:56:51 i was going to write a comment over torment_player 16:56:54 gammafunk: geekosaur: ty both for the work on this! 16:56:56 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:56 making the obvious joke 16:57:11 well thank Grunt since he made the patch? 16:57:21 I just installed os x.....for like SIX HOURS! 16:57:31 also s/?/./ 16:57:43 there is a Makefile patch needed for latest Xcode on 10.9 though 16:58:10 +// "another lava thing" has no stats! (GDL) 16:58:10 +// case MONS_ANOTHER_LAVA_THING: 16:58:19 SDK_VER := $(shell ls $(DEVELOPER_PATH)/SDKs | sort -n | head -1 | perl -pe 's/^MacOSX//g;s/.sdk$$//g') 16:58:54 does not work; it picks the 10.10 SDK. I had to change the sort part to: sort -t. -n -k2 16:59:55 does this all mean i’ll be able to compile again soon? 16:59:59 no 17:00:00 wheals: gdl seems to have made good comments 17:00:17 maybe 17:00:21 you specifically will not be able to, nor will crawl run on your machine 17:00:29 others will though, and they'll laugh at you 17:00:31 every day 17:00:45 MONS_SOUL_CRUSHER 17:00:48 + UNUSED( garbage ); 17:01:50 haha 17:01:50 interesting, that comment did originally mean something 17:01:50 + apply_area_within_radius(torment_monsters, tx, ty, 0, 8, 0); 17:02:01 i guess before radius_iterator existed 17:02:14 wow is that all pre coord_def 17:02:15 Well, thanks for spending your own time on this fellas. It’s much appreciated. 17:02:32 oh yeah sure 17:02:47 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 17:03:30 + naughty(NAUGHTY_NECROMANCY, 3); 17:04:08 + // This is related to old code where elec wpns had charges 17:04:10 fr??? 17:04:11 Feature requests on ##crawl are usually pithy one-liners that are not meant to be taken seriously. 17:04:14 ty Sequell 17:04:39 !send wheals the Rod of Striking 17:04:39 Sending the Rod of Striking to wheals. 17:05:16 -!- poopy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:05:30 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1942-g9bcc82c: Unbrace. 10(31 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bcc82c43545 17:07:40 -!- Amnesthesia|Else is now known as Amnesthesia 17:09:39 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:09:44 another unbrace, I can't believe it 17:09:51 are any braces left 17:11:40 -!- Trevise_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:11:52 wheals * 0.16-a0-1943-g9bcc82d: Remove all braces. (in the future, 1 file, 0+ 32432-) http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bcc82d 17:12:01 er 17:12:06 probably not 1 file 17:12:29 that's how you corner them 17:12:33 get them all in one file 17:12:41 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:41 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1943-gcb6cdaf: Clarify. 10(84 seconds ago, 3 files, 4+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb6cdaf27f2c 17:13:58 in the future crawl will be a single file written in C 17:14:43 future, past... 17:15:45 single line written in APL 17:15:55 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:00 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:08 ontoclasm: nice df sprites 17:18:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:19:01 Bloax: link? 17:19:46 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=145414.0 17:20:35 Grunt: it seems that webtiles doesn't build in 10.10,fwiw 17:22:19 geekosaur: can you build WEBTILES=y on your 10.9 setup? 17:22:49 Bloax: thanks 17:23:15 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:24 * geekosaur has no idea how to build webtiles... 17:23:32 just use WEBTILES=y 17:23:37 instead of TILES=y 17:23:53 you don't have to actually run it, but I'd like to know if it builds 17:24:07 I get 4 errors in tileweb.cc 17:24:39 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:40 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#204 (master - 74c23d6 : Shmuale Mark): The build was broken. 17:24:40 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/a8c12d7d946e...74c23d6dded4 17:24:40 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40240176 17:24:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:24:52 tsk tsk 17:25:34 ye$$$ 17:26:22 gee it would be nice if the segfault could make a crashlog 17:26:41 gammafunk: I patched tileweb last night for c++11. Did it get unpatched? 17:27:07 well this isn't building w/c++11 I think 17:27:11 since that's still reverted? 17:27:12 /home/travis/build/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des:240: Map 'swamp_pool3' has no (possible) exits; use TAGS: no_exits if this is intentional 17:27:15 in the makefile I mean 17:27:19 theTower: hi 17:27:32 those vaults are so ancient 17:27:40 that tag would work, sure 17:28:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:27 not as ancient as swamp! 17:28:34 4 errors, yes. looks like missing include file 17:28:46 some day I will ruin that 17:28:59 maybe the start of 0.17-b *sigh* 17:29:14 unistd.h to be specific 17:29:26 should they all get no_exits? 17:30:02 oh really 17:30:34 yep, that fixes it 17:30:37 perhaps, although I'm inclined to think the vaults should try for more connectors 17:30:51 they're obviously made for transparent mangroves 17:30:51 I think linux sucks in unistd.h from stdio.h so broken programs work >.> 17:31:03 oh yeah 17:31:06 rip those 17:31:14 rest in peace twice over 17:31:45 geekosaur: ah, yes it builds now, thanks 17:32:11 Bloax: ....hahaha you pumpkinified your mennas 17:32:25 trick or treat 17:32:49 geekosaur: and webtiles also works for gameplay, so god 17:32:51 *good 17:33:00 hm 17:33:14 i guess _pool1 and _pool2 can't be surrounded by trees 17:33:56 I will admit I have not very much idea what smear_map does >_> 17:34:04 Felids shouldn't hate anchovies. 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9149 by CKyle 17:34:24 severe bugs >.> 17:34:30 !!!! 17:34:34 Of the utmost import. 17:34:47 that patch deserves the highest priority 17:35:22 that patch deserves the highest priorkitty 17:35:28 ....booh 17:36:22 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1944-ga9baeb0: Tag two vaults with no_exits (travis-ci). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9baeb0c13e3 17:36:22 03CKyle02 {wheals} 07* 0.16-a0-1945-gca94107: Cats like fish. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca9410779ae1 17:36:48 oh god not the purrfect 17:36:57 let nobody say the devteam does not respond to the community 17:37:21 somehow it seems to fit in with everything else about felids 17:38:14 the purrfect was absolutely necessary. 17:38:22 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:39:12 The wife and I thought so. 17:39:44 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-1946-g5978a28: Fix WebTiles compilation on OS X 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5978a28e2d26 17:40:17 testing... 17:40:42 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:40:46 nope 17:41:00 erm. dunce 17:41:02 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:41:02 no it doesn't fix the big sdl problem 17:41:30 that has to wait for grunt to update the contrib 17:41:32 i feel like travis shouldn't do builds quite so often 17:41:40 gammafunk: k 17:41:50 wheals: why's that? 17:43:41 i assume it makes each one end later? 17:43:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:10 and plenty of commits don't break anything 17:44:23 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:42 can we make it build every n-commits or at most every m-minutes? 17:44:44 and then bisect? 17:45:07 you'd have to ask doy 17:45:29 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:12 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:52:02 * bh twiddles his thumbs 17:53:38 fr: sacrifice thumb 17:54:01 prevents using wands and evokes? 17:54:19 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:21 -!- serq has quit [Changing host] 17:54:40 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:55:21 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:35 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:35 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#205 (master - 9bcc82c : Shmuale Mark): The build was broken. 17:55:35 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/74c23d6dded4...9bcc82c43545 17:55:35 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40241665 17:55:35 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 17:56:21 well that's neat 17:56:33 %git 9bcc82c 17:56:34 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1942-g9bcc82c: Unbrace. 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9bcc82c43545 17:56:42 except the 17:56:42 [00:55:44] * travis-ci (~travis-ci@ec2-54-227-140-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com) has joined [00:55:45] * travis-ci has left part 17:57:07 yeah that was the no_exits 17:57:48 maybe we can set travis up to abyss people. 17:58:09 !abyss travis-ci 17:58:10 wheals casts a spell. travis-ci is devoured by a tear in reality! 17:58:34 -!- kipster has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:00:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:42 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:01:38 * bh pokes grunt 18:01:46 * Grunt squeaks! 18:01:48 I just got back home. 18:02:14 ...so how did bh know that 18:02:19 is he hiding in your house 18:02:25 THE IRC WAS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE 18:02:43 bh has multiple fellony convictions, be careful around him 18:02:52 if he makes you play some random roguelike he made, just do it 18:03:08 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03:12 quick what's the compile failure mantis 18:03:26 the wa 18:03:30 oh for os x? 18:03:32 the bug number for OS X c-- yes 18:03:43 9069 18:03:44 too late 18:04:05 Grunt: 000906900090690009069000906900090690009069000906900090690009069 18:04:09 rip 18:04:48 -!- weezeface has quit [Read error: No route to host] 18:04:49 there are a lot of scary warnings on 10.10 during freetype and sdl compilation but I guess this will work until we port to sdl2 18:04:58 yes 18:04:59 gammafunk: to be fair, I've never been convicted 18:05:11 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1947-gdf9e419: Update SDL contrib to 1.2.15 plus an OS X fix (#9069). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df9e419f57f0 18:05:14 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:05:41 well, they're mostly deprecation warnings from what I saw 18:05:44 yeah 18:06:07 oh I should give a final compile test 18:06:11 oh 18:06:13 btw 18:06:23 the default rc seems to cause more() when an ally shouts "be careful!" 18:06:28 idk if that's intentional as a joke or what 18:07:00 bh: PleasingFungus: gammafunk: geekosaur: now let's see if this compiles if we re-enable C++11........? 18:07:05 <_< 18:07:11 (I'm not volunteering to do that, for the record >_>) 18:07:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:07:37 imo we should aim for SDL2 before we work on that 18:07:43 it's building 18:08:13 Grunt: I don't think they're mutually exclusive in any way 18:09:03 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09:25 heh. the running crawl did not at all like my testing that other build 18:09:34 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:09:52 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:09:54 it thinks you're a two-timer 18:10:22 you've been flirting with that contrib, haven't you geekosaur! don't like to me! 18:10:27 *lie 18:10:50 ok. it builds 18:11:19 Ashenzari warns you, "It builds." 18:12:39 bh: was that with c++11? 18:12:48 gammafunk: running a linux and osx build... 18:13:13 bh: does your contrib build of sdl work on linux 18:13:17 it might now 18:13:20 er not 18:13:48 ugh 18:14:03 'make debug-lite -j2 TILES=1' is failing on linux 18:14:07 on linux you should use the package manager's version; the contrib is intended for windows and os x 18:14:14 oh. I'm being dopey 18:14:24 oh ok, it was never intended for unix usage then 18:14:40 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:15:21 builds are up and running. once I confirm I have an osx tiles build w/ c++11 and a linux build, I'll push 18:15:32 in the meantime, I'm eating dinner. 18:15:35 bh: well, there's windows... 18:15:45 and by that, I mean they build. 18:15:49 gammafunk: who can test on windows? 18:15:59 (away for real) 18:16:59 Blackmore (L23 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2911: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Vaults:5) 18:17:23 bh feels dopey. 18:18:26 interesting, anyhow 10.10 works for webtiles build with current trunk and sdl 18:18:39 but oddly the console execution of crawl fails 18:18:51 it's trying to connect to the webserver apparently 18:18:58 Blackmore (L24 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2911: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Vaults:5) 18:19:04 maybe special args are needed or sommething, but this is no big deal 18:19:17 -!- serq has quit [Quit: und weg...] 18:20:12 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:22:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:27:06 I agree with bh on this, actually; I think we can re-enable c++11 before trying to deal with the sdl2 port 18:27:29 v0v 18:28:30 oh here is some reading for everyone when we get to this point: 18:28:33 https://wiki.libsdl.org/MigrationGuide 18:28:36 :) 18:28:45 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:30:46 so exciteeeeeed 18:31:09 -!- edlothiol has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.3.1] 18:32:07 Oh, I wonder 18:32:11 http://docs.travis-ci.com/user/osx-ci-environment/ 18:33:31 that would be great to enable,if we could 18:33:58 hrm, gcc 4.2? 18:34:30 -!- the_glow1 is now known as the_glow 18:35:02 That documentation's a bit outdated, it looks like. 18:35:15 Travis has gcc-4.8 for os x in its most recent environemtns apparently? 18:36:07 on my system gcc is actually clang 18:36:26 but that's 10.10 18:36:36 yes 18:36:40 it is an os x thing 18:37:00 goblin (15g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 1 | HP: 2-6 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 4 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: normal. 18:37:00 %??goblin 18:37:04 huh, that's odd 18:37:22 too much dam for you? 18:37:42 no, it's just... 18:37:55 %git ca94107 18:37:55 07CKyle02 {wheals} * 0.16-a0-1945-gca94107: Cats like fish. 10(70 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca9410779ae1 18:38:02 didn't see that announced 18:38:10 it was announced 18:38:18 I saw it, since it was right before my commit 18:38:29 yeah at 17:35 I have that 18:38:50 and then mine at 17:38 18:39:26 oh, no, I do see it now 18:39:28 im blid 18:39:30 *blind 18:40:22 Blackmore (L24 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 2911: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Vaults:5) 18:41:36 http://docs.travis-ci.com/user/multi-os/ 18:41:39 rip 18:42:10 oh well 18:43:16 dang 18:43:20 keep an eye out, I guess 18:43:29 for when/if they re-open it 18:43:49 -!- tbuck_ is now known as tbuck___ 18:45:13 linux tiles doesn't work in xmonad. 18:45:17 I think we should block. 18:45:21 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:45:43 the wa 18:45:51 o.O 18:46:13 it's actually a silly bug. Since tiling mode is setting the height and width of the game window, it explodes with invalid height/width 18:46:14 w h a t 18:46:30 "Failed to set video mode: Invalid width or height" 18:46:42 I should find my old SDL2 code... 18:46:46 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:46:48 um, if it's setting the height/width, it should be floated 18:47:01 apparently SDL 2 has a quite powerful assert macro 18:47:08 quite powerful!!!! 18:47:11 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:11 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#207 (master - ca94107 : Kyle Fox): The build was fixed. 18:47:11 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/cb6cdaf27f2c...ca9410779ae1 18:47:11 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40244214 18:47:11 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 18:47:13 unless it's setting it wrong. or... are you running it in windowed or fullscreen? 18:47:23 ty CKyle 18:47:36 what 18:47:36 this 18:47:40 still applies cleanly????? 18:47:51 well 18:48:00 how would local tiles code have changed 18:48:02 * geekosaur pulls on the linux box 18:48:35 http://sprunge.us/GSeQ 18:49:02 last time I played tiles on linux, it worked fine in xmonad, but that was aeons ago 18:49:06 1learn add Grunt I am ashamed to have written it. 18:49:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50:23 wheals: imo crawlcode it 18:50:33 PleasingFungus: are you listening?? 18:51:14 // Aaaarggghhhh! -- Grunt 18:53:45 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:10 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:40 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:46 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 18:56:57 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:59:14 -!- Milferton has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:01:28 geekosaur: windowed, I believe 19:01:35 -!- RoGGa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:16 ok, I think I only tried it fullscreen. I'm building now, will set up a crawlrc for windowed and configure for event debugging so I can see if sdl does the window negotiation strangely or something 19:02:53 Grunt: I am now :) 19:02:57 and now I'm not! 19:03:00 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141106030201]] 19:03:52 rip 19:03:59 decayed 19:04:12 r i p 19:04:43 ??cheipoke 19:04:44 cheipoke[1/1]: http://s-z.org/cgi-bin/cheipoke 19:04:53 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1948-g76c8bfa: Revert "Revert c++11" 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=76c8bfa97cf9 19:05:09 rip.... 19:05:20 there's probably some version of MSVC that breaks, but I have no idea which one 19:05:24 i should see if i compile 19:05:36 wheals: what's your env? 19:06:03 $ uname -a 19:06:03 Linux localhost.localdomain 3.16.6-200.fc20.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 15 13:06:51 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 19:06:04 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:06:10 should work fine 19:06:24 hm, so it runs in windowed mode fine here 19:06:36 (tile_full_screen = false) 19:06:52 geekosaur: I'm running it in windowed mode, but my wm is forcing it into a weird size 19:07:14 it shouldn't be 19:07:18 1440x880 or so 19:07:41 if it's using windowed mode, it should set min_size = max_size = initial_size and xmonad will float the window at its requested size 19:08:30 -!- Ipsum_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:08:38 -!- stysyhgtrdtrd has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:08:47 unless that size is larger than the screen but I can't help with that and neither can xmonad >.> 19:09:59 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1949-g5051830: Fix chilling/draining breath speech (_Jordan_). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5051830f628b 19:10:21 !send wheals bad breath 19:10:22 Sending bad breath to wheals. 19:10:31 right, not seeing any problem with the configureRequest here 19:11:03 hrm. Do we want to replace the RNG with AES? 19:11:09 o_O? 19:11:16 oh you are thinking of C++11isms 19:11:23 then again I do not have a tiny screen, it's 1920x1200 19:11:26 nah, I'm thinking of the intel instruction set 19:11:35 o h 19:11:37 but what about PPC 19:11:38 I am not sure windowed mode flies on netbooks 19:12:02 geekosaur: my native resolution is 2880x1800 19:12:09 and I don't have a linuxy netbook to test on 19:12:14 wheals: we can dig up an AES implementation somewhere 19:12:42 do we support any PPC builds? 19:13:03 we just broke them, i thought :P 19:13:20 so for some reason it is not floating the window. if you get a chance, you might look at XMonad.Hooks.DebugEvents and grab the events relating to ConfigureRequest and Property on the crawl window 19:13:47 so, can we start using C++11 now? 19:14:20 wheals: once someone with MSVC confirms that the universe isn't on fire, yes. 19:14:51 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/11/c-11-14-feature-tables-for-visual-studio-14-ctp1.aspx 19:15:06 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh567368.aspx 19:15:34 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:34 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#208 (master - 5978a28 : gammafunk): The build was fixed. 19:15:34 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/ca9410779ae1...5978a28e2d26 19:15:34 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40244469 19:15:34 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:15:40 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:16:01 gammafunk fixed it! 19:16:03 \o/ 19:16:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:17:09 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:59 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:17 hrm, what are these messages even 19:19:28 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:31 so, I haven't been following the conversation, but it's a known thing that compile is broken right now, right? 19:20:42 Lasty: huh?? 19:21:05 I'm getting a ton of make errors when I try to compile origin/master 19:21:13 Lasty: such as? 19:21:23 * geekosaur just built it on linux and os x without errors 19:21:29 Lasty: what platform are you on? 19:22:00 http://pastebin.com/bgqQE0xM 19:22:07 windows!!! 19:22:11 mingw 19:22:12 4.4.0 19:22:14 Windows 8 / mingw32 19:22:17 4.4.0 19:22:20 finally, someone on windows :) 19:22:20 ...knew tht was coming 19:22:29 we did say we needed someone on windows to test... 19:22:31 4.4.0 19:22:35 the issue is not Windows 19:22:41 do I need to update my version? 19:22:44 don't we define PI ourselves 19:22:47 I think that's what Grunt is saying 19:22:50 gotcha 19:22:55 I will attempt to do so 19:22:56 #define PI 3.14159265359f 19:23:20 while everyone is here: can we switch to squarelos? 19:23:28 I'm in favor 19:23:38 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:23:38 But I have no idea what drawbacks there might be 19:23:56 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:15 -!- link_108 has quit [Client Quit] 19:25:44 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1950-g3bf8d9d: Clean up some handling of mon-spell-slots spell books. 10(8 minutes ago, 3 files, 2+ 265-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3bf8d9d22d79 19:25:48 C++11-commit activated 19:26:06 #define END_OF_MONS_BOOK { SPELL_NO_SPELL, 0, MON_SPELL_NO_FLAGS } 19:26:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:25 wheals: I may have use for that elsewhere...... 19:26:33 Lasty: I think it's a matter of taste 19:26:36 (cf. randliches) 19:26:41 hmmm 19:26:44 I am officially Indifferent™ to squarelos 19:26:56 I don't know that any current devs are against squarelos for design reasons; I'm for it, I'm just not committing myself to the amount of work involved 19:27:04 since it does seem like it's gonna be a huge amount of work 19:27:06 of course, I'd be happy to help 19:28:08 I'm happy to commit anyone else to work on it 19:28:14 !commit gammafunk 19:28:15 I'd like to commit bh to work on it,in fact 19:28:18 I nominated gamm... 19:28:22 rip 19:28:23 rip 19:28:25 yeah rip 19:30:31 would anyone be sad if I pulled crypto++ in as a dep? (http://www.cryptopp.com/) 19:30:51 Planning to replace the RNG? 19:30:57 PleasingFungus: yeah. AES in counter mode 19:31:30 perhaps I can split out just that 19:32:35 is our rng defficient in some way not only of interest to academic researchers? 19:33:21 gammafunk: the only upside I see to using a 3rd party library is that there are CPU instructions for doing randomness 19:33:37 Grunt: do you happen to have a link to a more recent mingw? 19:33:55 don't we kinda depend on saving random seeds? 19:34:00 Lasty: hm 19:34:12 hm 19:34:15 hm 19:34:37 Lasty: try https://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/latest/download apparently 19:34:39 geekosaur: saving howso? in a stack or in save files? 19:34:52 save files. reproducibility, iirc 19:34:52 http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Getting_Started is where I saw that 19:35:09 Grunt: Ah, I just started trying that one, after following the link in INSTALL, which seems to be bad. 19:35:37 so, the main and UI RNGs were separated some time back 19:36:24 I believe the point was so that a dev could get a save file and load it and test something buggy that was happening to someone, so they need the same RNG state (and separated main and UI state so console vs. tiles doesn't matter as much) 19:36:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:38:37 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 19:38:44 -!- bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:39:27 of course I'm thinking true hardware RNG and you're thinking AES instructions, so it may not be as applicable, but still need to maintain some invariants to make debugging less insane 19:39:29 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:39:54 !send geekosaur bugs 19:39:54 Sending bugs to geekosaur. 19:40:11 yeah. there's no way we should use the intel random bit instruction 19:40:19 * geekosaur got plenty of bugs >.> 19:40:25 except maybe to seed the rng at game start. but let's file that under stuff not worth doing 19:40:40 -!- travis-ci has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:40 crawl-ref/crawl-ref#209 (master - df9e419 : Steve Melenchuk): The build was fixed. 19:40:40 Change view : https://github.com/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/compare/5978a28e2d26...df9e419f57f0 19:40:40 Build details : http://travis-ci.org/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/builds/40246453 19:40:40 -!- travis-ci has left ##crawl-dev 19:40:50 (ok, theyre mostly not crawl bugs...) 19:40:52 I think I'd prefer to avoid hardware-specific stuff unless we have alternatives lined up 19:41:26 that would be why bh wanted to use a library which could either use hardware instructions or slower software emulation 19:41:33 v0v 19:42:01 I 19:42:03 er 19:42:09 I'm not sure it's worth the hassle 19:42:27 !seen |amethyst 19:42:28 I last saw |amethyst at Thu Nov 6 04:08:50 2014 UTC (21h 33m 38s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 19:42:37 :( 19:42:40 well, he was "worth" a "hassle", so. 19:42:53 wait, what? 19:42:58 isn't that a bit of a non sequitur....? 19:43:48 oh did we re-enable c++10 yet? 19:43:49 er 19:43:51 11 19:43:52 yes 19:43:59 oh I should compile it then 19:47:32 btw, 25 minutes until yosemite finishes downloading 19:47:56 PleasingFungus: I'm already running 10.10 and it works for me 19:48:31 so 19:48:34 maybe I should 19:48:39 push that initial SDL2 work of mine to a branch 19:48:42 bh: im excite 19:48:45 and sic the rest of you on it....... 19:48:53 Grunt: what remains to be done? 19:48:56 I tested it first!!!! 19:49:12 PleasingFungus: making the code clean and sensible and usable 19:49:29 hrm, so the SDL2 build works correctly? 19:49:31 PleasingFungus: hopefully getting Android to work with it too (but that would come after everything else is working) 19:49:35 gammafunk: yes and no 19:49:37 gammafunk: it compiles 19:49:43 gammafunk: the code is a ridiculously hacky mess though 19:49:57 well, does it run properly or no? 19:50:06 haha 19:50:09 as in can, you play the game 19:50:11 yes 19:50:15 ok 19:50:27 http://sprunge.us/GSeQ 19:50:31 i m o test it yourself and see 19:50:39 we'd need to do an SDL2 contrib and get that to compile, I think 19:50:52 you know what, I think I JUST MIGHT AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME 19:51:16 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:30 what's the correct order for merging stuff down into master? 19:51:38 checkout branch, rebase, checkout master, merge? 19:51:52 bh: update master before you do any of that imo :) 19:52:09 sure 19:52:09 yeah I often do that bh 19:52:10 branch, rebase, master, rebase, push - that's my approach 19:52:26 er, the second rebase is from branch onto master 19:52:37 well if you rebase branch onto master 19:52:41 Looking back at this code the first thing I remember wanting to do is cleaning up WME_ handling to be closer to what SDL2 expects 19:52:46 you can just merge the branch after checking master 19:52:59 but yeah same difference 19:53:22 * bh crosses his fingers 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1951-gf0f6b21: Wang Tiles Draft 10(5 days ago, 4 files, 673+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0f6b2180a40 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1952-g4ef48b5: Rename Domino to CornerDomino 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 45+ 45-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ef48b539310 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1953-g2356966: Rename Colour to CornerColour 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=23569668d8d1 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1954-g6267375: Add EdgeDominoes 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 100+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=626737572204 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1955-ga7318e3: Make CornerDomino and EdgeDomino subclass domino 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 97+ 103-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7318e3b7dd2 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1956-gc2065e3: Break the Tile Generator 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 17+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c2065e36bb6f 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1957-g74c3760: Fix an obvious cast bug (edlothiol) 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=74c37600b7ec 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1958-ge536d09: Domino Bugfixes 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 42+ 28-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e536d09b090b 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1959-ged9ab4b: Add citation to domino headers. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed9ab4b7b590 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1960-g570fdaa: Template'ize Dominoes 10(3 days ago, 4 files, 461+ 470-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=570fdaaf86e2 19:53:56 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1961-g898bb4e: Merge Dominos 10(4 minutes ago, 9 files, 784+ 780-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=898bb4efb18e 19:54:02 !send bh travis-ci 19:54:02 Sending travis-ci to bh. 19:54:02 what are you landing 19:54:02 dare I ask 19:54:03 just wait to see the messages, it's more exciting this way 19:54:41 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 19:55:18 hrm, what does this do exactly bh 19:55:36 right now? nothing. 19:55:44 that is a whole lot of nothing 19:55:46 it tiles the plane 19:56:15 WANG TILES 19:56:22 the name that keeps on giving 19:56:30 it tiles the plane 19:56:33 see why I renamed it to dominoes? 19:58:17 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:53 Grunt: well it compiled for me and seems to work (webtiles) 19:59:39 gammafunk: webtiles isn't really relevant hre 19:59:40 and in the end, isn't that what this is all about 19:59:41 s/hre/here/ 19:59:45 oh true 19:59:46 gammafunk: localtiles is 19:59:46 heh 19:59:51 alright let me try that instead 19:59:54 Guh, there's supposed to be a make in this MinGW installer, but I cannot fucking find it 20:00:13 ./domino.h:318:28: error: use of undeclared identifier 'rand' 20:00:44 console, os x... and, rand()?? 20:01:26 yeah I didn't get that error on linux webtiles 20:01:49 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:01:56 durr. 20:02:04 I'll rip it out of Makefile.obj 20:02:07 stdlib.h 20:02:15 does it need to be in trunk if it doesn't do anything right now? 20:03:12 you do get in domino.cc but *after* including domino.h 20:04:10 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1798-g8b97d56: Add draining to the Banshee card. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b97d56622f4 20:04:11 03bh02 07* 0.16-a0-1962-g7e8d76f: rand()? nope. Fix makefile 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e8d76fec8b3 20:04:14 Grunt: not a rhetorical question -- do you think we should feature branch everything? 20:04:39 well def. not everything, but the idea is large, unfinished things 20:04:41 for an easy first pass, I was going to use it to recolor elf 20:04:50 bh: code should do something meaningful and work reasonably well before it lands, IMO :) 20:05:17 Grunt: +1 20:05:43 want me to un-merge? 20:06:30 I am tempted to reset --hard to 3bf8d9d and force push 20:07:33 'eh.... it's not much harder to just back it out and that won't break anyone 20:08:05 the script that updates trunk on cpo would break if you rewrote history 20:08:14 yeah force push seems maybe bad 20:08:34 but Grunt has more guru points than I 20:09:05 I think it's bad policy to include unfinished things, but it's probably worse to force reset to get rid of them. 20:09:23 sorry to get overeager and not think things through 20:09:39 I don't think it's a big deal; I'd put it somewhere slightly north of a merge commit, tbh, though grunt may disagree. 20:10:11 console build successful now; pulling tiles now 20:10:20 force is highly naughty 20:10:25 I'd worry about it breaking automated rebuild stuff for one 20:10:33 hooray, cards chipping away closer to... whatever 20:10:48 yes, that elusive, decisive WHAT.EVER. 20:10:58 oh, I meant "including weird unuseful stuff" in my last sentence (as the slightly naughty thing) 20:11:00 the thrill of victory 20:11:51 !send grunt apologies 20:11:52 Sending apologies to grunt. 20:11:54 (note that this is my macports-based build so no contribs) 20:12:11 that reminds me, i wrote a few card descriptions at work and then forgot to send them to myself, rip 20:12:12 Grunt: ok, actual success. sdl2 tiles builds and plays fine with very cursory testing 20:13:19 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:13:27 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1799-ge40962a: Add malmutate to Degeneration card (theTower). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e40962a2a244 20:13:27 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1963-g4ae1ea9: Remove hastily committed and unused domino tile functionality. 10(51 seconds ago, 4 files, 0+ 783-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ae1ea9923de 20:13:30 *gasp* 20:13:40 pairings, chei 20:13:51 these pairs of commits are like 20:13:53 dominos 20:13:54 :) 20:13:56 bh: HASTILY COMMITTED and UNUSED 20:14:01 <3 Grunt 20:14:18 also kind of WEIRD LOOKING 20:14:43 shouldn't that really be using ui_random anyway? 20:15:05 no. It should accept a random thing as input 20:15:06 gammafunk: it needs a lot of cleanup and refactoring and 20:15:34 !send do a lot of cleanup and refactoring PleasingFungus 20:15:34 Sending PleasingFungus to do a lot of cleanup and refactoring. 20:15:35 nobody commits hastily, except him 20:15:36 ...and? 20:15:37 noooo 20:15:47 I guess we'd need to contribify sdl2 and sdl2-image before we did that, hm. 20:15:48 well it runs at least, so maybe a branch? 20:15:55 hrm, yeah 20:16:14 h m 20:16:15 you could add a submodule and have the sdl2 crawl branch use that? 20:16:22 That is what I would do, yes 20:16:47 but I guess then other people would get sdl2 when they did git submodule update etc? 20:16:53 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16:57 even if not using that branch 20:17:47 -!- Isabel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:23 nicolae-, if helix is deformation / perfection through double spiral staircases, what is degeneration 20:18:51 YOUR POSTING i have a few ideas, none of them really as metaphorical as the helix one 20:18:54 ok, tiles os x build succeeded 20:18:55 fleshy orifices 20:19:05 geekosaur: sdl2? 20:19:25 degeneration is just polymorph with lesser HD, right? 20:19:26 no, post domino which is now defunct so I need to pull and update again >.> 20:19:38 I'm not touching sdl2 as yet 20:19:42 oh ok 20:19:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:19:43 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:19:53 polymorph all with lesser HD and also now the malmutate status 20:19:54 hrm I should try sdl ...oh we'd need that repo first 20:20:13 okiedoke 20:20:14 thank you for the useful player-to-monster effects pleasingwhatever 20:20:23 well, that's a good sign, libsdl and libsdl2 don't conflict... 20:20:50 The mingw installer is distilled evil 20:20:55 heh 20:21:31 mingw is distilled evil, but a necessary distilled evil in many cases 20:21:50 mingw32-make installed. Does that mean a file with that name is on my computer? No, of course not. Don't be absurd. 20:22:16 I would expect it to be called make 20:22:24 or at least make.exe 20:22:54 Oh, no, it's different. And I do have a make.exe, but that's something else and it doesn't work like make. 20:23:39 Darts not completely gone from documentation (in crawl_manual) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9150 by RoGGa 20:25:08 oh, I see. It installed the package as make-3.82.90-2-mingw32-cvs-20120902-bin.tar.lzma. Now to determine how to actually turn that into something useful. 20:25:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 20:25:16 gammafunk: you built osx tiles? 20:25:17 er 20:25:22 geekosaur 20:25:28 my bad 20:25:37 not the way you are hoping, but in theory master should now work for you 20:25:48 yeah os x tiles should work fine now 20:26:02 I built it normaly with the sdl contrib 20:26:22 grunt brought libsdl up to 1.2.15 and that built for me earlier with a stock config 20:26:45 my tests were 10.10 20:27:11 so would this work again? 20:27:13 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8462&p=114701#p114701 20:27:31 looking over things, maybe an ever-so-wimpy shroud / stoneskin for helm level 1 / 2 wouldn't be bad 20:27:32 lobf: you need to run git submodule update 20:27:43 okay 20:27:52 and then go to crawl-ref/source 20:28:01 do git pull 20:28:13 and then run the make 20:28:16 maybe the magical shield could be a mon_ench >_> 20:28:34 add the —init to my submodule update? 20:28:39 no 20:28:44 no 20:28:45 Grunt: <3 thanks for fixing things 20:28:51 cool 20:28:51 you should already have submodules, you just need to pull the latest versions 20:28:58 ok 20:29:02 Grunt is basically a magician 20:29:06 do the nem cards still just mix in buffs with conj with summonings then? 20:29:11 !learn add Grunt Grunt is basically a magician 20:29:12 grunt[25/25]: Grunt is basically a magician 20:29:22 don't inflate his ego! 20:29:23 buffs and summ are one deck, conj is split 20:29:24 he's more of an illusionist 20:29:30 if i can inflate it big enough, it'll pop 20:29:34 oh, huh 20:29:42 i'm playing the long game here 20:29:43 that's...interesting 20:30:03 sounds better than all-in-one at least 20:30:21 i think that makes that only the second time i've ever been mentioned in the learndb 20:31:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:31:26 shit, how do i deal with this again? 20:31:29 any other nemelex concerns 20:31:32 ?/nicolae 20:31:33 Matching entries (2): deep_elf_high_priest[1]: drag0n the Anemomancer (L19 HEWz), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, killed by an exploding deep elf high priest on Vaults:2 (nicolae_vaults_triangles), with 229338 points after 78846 turns and 7:47:08. | grunt[25]: Grunt is basically a magician 20:31:35 error: Your local changes to the following files would be overwritten by merge: 20:31:36 crawl-ref/source/Makefile 20:31:37 Please, commit your changes or stash them before you can merge. 20:31:37 Aborting 20:31:49 elixir / helm are buffs to non-terrible things anyway >_> 20:31:50 git stash; git pull; git stash pop 20:31:54 oh I'd git checkout crawl-ref/source/Makefile 20:31:54 sweet 20:31:58 you probably don't want those changes 20:32:01 although you may want to just undo the makefile changes 20:32:17 lobf: yeah the checkout command if you don't want them, but both will work 20:32:25 * bh crosses his fingers, again 20:33:18 there goes the neighborhood... again 20:33:29 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:33:37 theTower: yeah them being not useless helps,and not having so many other cards in with the summons means you can hopefully still get a crusade, or something 20:34:12 03Grunt02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1805-g8f34639: Up death scarab melee damage; make side effects trigger on no damage. 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f346390137b 20:34:12 03PleasingFungus02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1806-gd8ad137: Hopefully fix miscast crashes (wheals, theTower) 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8ad13766a8b 20:34:12 03Lasty02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1807-gd849d2a: Don't offer Summoning in Sac Arcana if you Sac'd Love [potatolizard] 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d849d2a3ad4c 20:34:12 03PleasingFungus02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1808-gf59f058: Fix Mennas's cast messages (potatolizard, Kvaak) 10(4 days ago, 2 files, 6+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f59f05847353 20:34:12 03PleasingFungus02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1809-ge9552e3: Adjust unknown deck code 10(4 days ago, 6 files, 17+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9552e3dbfeb 20:34:12 03Grunt02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1810-g67bce5c: Fix compilation. 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67bce5ced1ba 20:34:12 03Grunt02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1811-g551435d: Update the list of enchantments in debuff_monster() (theTower). 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=551435dd5f99 20:34:12 03PleasingFungus02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1812-g05d18b1: Improve (?) deck rarity code 10(4 days ago, 6 files, 7+ 15-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=05d18b157d9c 20:34:12 03Lasty02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1813-g36dae82: Slightly adjust caustic bee spawn rates 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=36dae8241006 20:34:12 03Lasty02 {bh} 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1814-g6392a5e: Increase the value of sacrifices which remove existing muts (rchandra) 10(4 days ago, 3 files, 76+ 35-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6392a5ec6d43 20:34:12 ... and 150 more commits 20:34:15 get potion to haste your centaur warriors 20:34:17 god knows what the number of cards available at any given time looks like now, though 20:34:23 ...??? 20:34:28 good rebase 20:34:33 er 20:34:35 shit. 20:34:37 hey chei finish up already 20:34:38 here’s what happened 20:34:39 http://pastebin.com/i8955x0A 20:34:48 lol 20:34:49 phew. 20:34:51 bh 20:34:52 150 commits 20:35:02 gammafunk: I think I did it wrong 20:35:10 survey says yes 20:35:12 so do I... 20:35:29 all I did was rebase the branch on master 20:35:39 and i don’t see an executable 20:35:49 /nick travis-ci; /say EVERYTHING BROKEN by Brendan Hickey 20:35:56 in crawl-ref/source 20:35:59 :P 20:36:10 yeah travis is going to have a fit 20:36:11 lobf: no not pop, just git stash; but don't do that, run this: git checkout Makefile 20:36:26 poor travis 20:36:35 travis builds branches? 20:36:38 lobf: you don't see a binary because you haven't compile yet I think? you're just trying to get the repo in order still 20:36:48 gammafunk: I think all the summon cards besides illusion and crusade and (depending on luck) herd were buffed, anyway 20:36:52 it's been building cards 20:37:06 theTower: no my point is about when you get hostile summons 20:37:11 ran git checkout Makefile 20:37:15 now make again? 20:37:21 lobf: run git status 20:37:27 is Makefile listed as changed? 20:37:29 it shouldn't be 20:37:38 two less hostile summons and three more dangerous hostile summons >_> 20:37:40 the make command on that tavern page, yes. it's more than just "make" 20:37:41 nay 20:37:49 it’s not listed as changed 20:37:51 ok git upll 20:37:53 er git pull 20:37:55 to update master 20:38:02 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:38:14 ok 20:39:00 lobf: once that is done you run the usual make command from the thread 20:39:11 make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y 20:39:26 spat this at me 20:39:27 http://pastebin.com/Xc2yM7XL 20:39:51 yeah that's the old sdl 20:39:56 did you update submodules 20:40:02 i’m just gonna delete this directory and start fresh 20:40:44 yeah you can do that as well, you need to go through the repo checkout, git submodule update --init etc, but that should work 20:41:01 cool 20:41:37 it's sad that caustic shrikes don't spawn anymore 20:41:42 rip 20:41:49 wait, they got removed already? 20:41:51 you never get bands of them 20:41:55 oh, I have an idea 20:42:01 they are vault-only 20:42:02 what are the randomization functions, again? crawl.random2(x) does 0 to x-1, right? 20:42:15 I'm confused, are the bees still in? 20:42:20 (their depth is below the bottom of Depths) 20:42:22 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des#l23 20:42:31 here's a good spot for something. 20:42:36 gammafunk: they exist but only spawn as OoD stuff in vaults 20:42:48 can't OoD stuff generate naturally eventually 20:42:50 huh, decided that they were too much? 20:42:56 well yeah, occasionaly 20:43:02 they can generate naturally _regularly_ 20:43:13 as well as eventually (which is pretty often for depths) 20:43:48 though on-floor-generation is only depths:3-5 I think 20:44:07 so not really vault-only then? 20:44:34 i read they got set to a depth of U:8-13 20:44:36 !lg * ikiller=~shrike 20:44:38 5. mopl the Black Belt (L22 CeTm of Okawaru), mangled by a caustic shrike on Depths:3 (impenetrable_vault) on 2014-11-06 12:48:12, with 417924 points after 75135 turns and 5:56:05. 20:44:46 ??ood 20:44:47 ood[1/2]: Crawl sometimes generates unusually hard monsters to keep you on your toes. The maximum possible is a 9 level difference, or 5 on D:1; add random2avg(27,2) as a special farmer penalty which only triggers after ~1k turns and is quite rare even then. Other times when something seems overly powerful, it's just a vault -- e.g. death yak guarding the lair. 20:44:59 oh, not even depths:3 20:45:10 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:45:13 why do we have DOS code 20:45:40 how many depths vaults have 8 band 20:45:41 think... "eight times more common than a. liches" 20:45:50 maybe 1/25 20:46:09 oh I should 20:46:12 just run objstat 20:46:13 to see 20:46:18 that would help 20:46:42 (what's this "overhearing" business for commits anyway) 20:46:57 dudestat 20:46:59 huh 20:46:59 uh oh 20:47:06 GEN tiledef-floor.h 20:47:06 Segmentation fault (core dumped) 20:47:06 make[1]: *** [tiledef-floor.h] Error 139 20:47:07 pf posted about it in the sa thread 20:47:10 for full debug 20:47:14 oh 20:47:22 oh, just tiles 20:47:22 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:47:29 I was going to complain about the commit log but considering recent events... 20:47:41 ah 20:48:53 huh 20:49:09 yeah full debug is broken for me 20:49:22 or maybe it's console 20:49:33 yep 20:49:37 console seems broken 20:49:46 http://orientalbirdimages.org/images/data/southern_grey_shrike1dh.jpg 20:50:55 it would be great to put them in lair zigs over the lair end representatives but I want to also merge lair branches zig into lair zig instead 20:50:56 Grunt: looks like some recent change broke console? 20:50:58 decisions, decisions 20:51:03 gammafunk: huh? 20:51:10 * bh attempts to replicate 20:51:11 webtiles is compiling fine for me 20:51:19 GEN tiledef-main.h 20:51:19 Segmentation fault (core dumped) 20:51:19 make[1]: *** [tiledef-main.h] Error 139 20:51:22 this is console 20:51:26 for me tiles and webtiles are fine 20:51:29 gammafunk: how are you compiling? 20:51:30 gotta go to a tech scout for work 20:51:32 just make 20:51:37 i’ll let you know if there are any issues later 20:51:43 but it looks like it’s working like normal 20:51:43 since I'm on linux 20:51:46 thank you so much 20:51:47 <3 20:51:53 is this after grunt reverted wang tiles? 20:51:54 add a zig floor that is just nothing but shrikes 20:51:58 ugh, after finally getting make working, it looks like it's mingw32 3.4.5. 20:52:16 variety is the spice of death 20:52:21 wheals: could be, I haven't tried to bisect 20:52:34 have you tried to type git log :P 20:52:48 Grunt: you made it clear that 4.4.0 was too old -- what version is current enough? 20:53:35 wheals: I'm at current trunk... 20:53:37 ok 20:53:46 Lasty: what's the version of g++ that it has? 20:54:09 gammafunk: I just rebuilt 'make debug -j2' without problem 20:54:18 yeah this is weird then 20:54:21 yeah, no segfault for me 20:54:22 either 20:54:23 ➜ source git:(master) g++ --version 20:54:24 g++ (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) 4.8.2 20:54:32 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1800-ge6de623: Add Ephemeral Infusion to Elixir card. 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 11+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6de623c6da9 20:54:33 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1964-gca384b8: Give feature_def a constructor. 10(12 minutes ago, 4 files, 22+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca384b8900a9 20:54:48 chei likes pairs tonight 20:55:05 git grep 'C++11' | wc -l 20:55:05 7 20:55:22 wheals: 4.8.1-4, it looks like 20:55:31 ah, so that should be good 20:55:49 mine is 4.8.3-7 and works fine 20:56:25 as in, I should invoke g++ directly? 20:56:27 this is so bizarre 20:56:38 and skip make? 20:56:43 gammafunk: make clean? 20:56:50 trust me I've tried 20:57:34 hrm, idea 20:57:47 The gammafunk has an idea! You die... 20:57:47 ...nope 20:57:55 Lasty: have you tried compiling since reinstalling? 20:58:12 yes 20:58:18 huh 20:58:21 it's throwing a new set of errors, even after make clean 20:58:24 could you post the failure log? 20:58:30 I tried make and mingw32-make 20:58:32 sure 20:58:33 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:59:41 !tell |amethyst 7994df1730105b070e36f59e12e679524a6ca3e3 20:59:42 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 20:59:43 aha! 20:59:45 figured it out 20:59:47 false alamr 20:59:53 what was the problem? 21:00:04 I had LDFLAGS set I think 21:00:27 from some previous attempts with 1.2.15 21:00:34 or something, but it was a shell variable of some kind 21:00:41 -!- Fusha has quit [] 21:00:57 wheals: http://pastebin.com/azzgwnTv 21:01:09 I have the dump for both make and mingw32-make 21:01:11 basically, as always, it was wheals' fault 21:01:15 !tell |amethyst 885142fd33fe406429db32dc383ab3ec09878740 21:01:17 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 21:01:26 actually i guess gammafunk knows that code too! 21:01:38 %git 885142fd33fe406429db32dc383ab3ec09878740 21:01:38 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-1738-g885142f: Simplify and improve some initialization macros. 10(4 months ago, 1 file, 40+ 45-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=885142fd33fe 21:01:52 yeah 21:02:01 I wrote the original,and he made it nicer 21:02:05 4.4.0 was the gcc version, not the mingw version 21:02:06 and now we don't need it thankfully! 21:02:29 -!- VoidFox has quit [Client Quit] 21:02:37 not super looking forward to cleaning up that objstat code for c++11 21:02:48 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1801-ga3374cd: Let Helm card protect allies (theTower). 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 10+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3374cdecade 21:02:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:11 mm, and that is gcc3. seems not recent at all 21:03:11 Lasty: a quick google suggests that it's the result of linking against old libs? 21:03:19 oh, hmm 21:03:27 geekosaur: gcc3? where, really? 21:03:36 Do I need to uninstall all my mingw32 stuff and reinstall? 21:03:38 mmmmm 21:03:53 theTower: what did you mean with the velocity changes? 21:04:02 something suggests updating 'mingwrt' 21:04:11 C:\MinGW\bin\..\lib\gcc\mingw32\3.4.5\..\..\..\..\mingw32\bin\ld.exe that would be a path referencing gcc 3.4.5 for mingw32 21:04:27 velocity currently hastes allies and slows monsters, or slows allies and hastes monsters 21:04:49 (the weird path is because gcc is using a path from its internal tool directory but running something outside of it) 21:05:06 I'd like to see the latter be slow allies and monsters or haste allies and monsters instead so it's not quite so malevolent 21:05:15 so that would be the problem, using g++ 4.8 and linking against 3.4.5 :P 21:05:33 oh, huh 21:05:37 servers are listed in the manual 21:05:43 what's wrong with malevolent 21:05:44 heh, weird 21:05:53 they're out of date, of course 21:05:59 gammafunk: anyway, you should do the C++11 thing the comment suggests 21:06:17 so I need to update mingwrt to fix the links? 21:06:24 wheals: do you know how many moon labs I have to make still? 21:06:27 nicolae-: malevolence can be added back in later, nemelex needs strong cards again first >_> 21:06:33 maybe, or you might need to reinstall the whole thing :/ 21:06:39 ah, hmm 21:06:46 uninstall/reinstall might be the way to go 21:06:59 refactoring code is not realllly my style 21:07:22 theTower: make a card that when you draw it it adds four cards to the bottom of the deck 21:07:56 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1965-g95f328e: Remove darts (from the manual) (9150) 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=95f328eb47a5 21:08:09 You see a picture of yourself with four more darts. 21:08:09 okay making some progress with sdl2 contribification 21:08:13 er 21:08:14 cards 21:08:18 dammit PleasingFungus 21:08:19 once I get this to compile and run I am going to make an sdl2 branch 21:08:20 :) 21:08:24 excellent 21:08:38 PleasingFungus: i don't think en has tomahawks 21:08:43 a card that deals damage to enemies in your los and any enemies that die from it get turned into cards 21:08:51 it was wr that got them 21:09:16 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:09:25 nicolae-: i think i've seen that anime 21:09:38 something about captors 21:09:39 oh 21:09:44 oh 21:09:47 I confused them with warpers 21:09:48 akira? 21:09:48 that's an anime? 21:09:56 card captor 21:10:01 I don't know anything about it 21:10:01 hunh 21:10:07 but I vaguely remember the name 21:10:18 if there's any silly ideas needed for cards, it's for buffing wonders again so that I can use it for a gauntlet / zig reward >_> 21:10:19 "sakura" 21:10:19 i was just thinking "card that adds more cards to your deck" but also "card that can't be used outside combat" and just combined the two 21:10:24 he says, nervously glancing at the three card captor posters on his wall 21:10:43 silly ideas? WELL, 21:10:44 there's NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, OKAY? 21:11:01 wheals: are you re-fixing the manual or should I 21:11:02 on the other hand, the card captor body pillow- 21:11:06 you can 21:11:13 i don't mind 21:12:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1966-gb86d1a3: Remove tomahawks (en manual entry, wheals) 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b86d1a3c624b 21:12:48 going spanish 21:13:14 is there a reason that tomb/imprison walls won't place on stairs? 21:13:39 N78291: probably leftover from when they were permanent 21:13:52 also, the temporary feature code probably didn't exist 21:14:00 on a related note, can we change water nymphs to place tempwater on stairs? 21:14:03 or would that break things? 21:14:13 yes, it did 21:14:16 ! 21:14:18 what if im going upstairs and it turns it into water 21:14:23 I guess one thing is that if you place a wall on a branch entrance ctrl-o says you haven't found it 21:14:34 speaking of tomb and water it would be nice if they worked 21:14:47 instead of the tomb disappearing after one turn 21:14:49 simmarine: we can add a special case so that it won't do that, like with vault warden sealing 21:14:56 (if we didn't add that case, you would in fact stop traveling) 21:15:15 huh 21:15:21 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:15:54 clearly they should switch with you and sit on the stairs themselves 21:16:31 they turn the stairs to water and then waterport to the stairs 21:17:05 -!- Chiizugami has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17:23 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:17:28 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 21:17:55 i bet other mosnters would really covet such good ai 21:18:03 mosnters 21:18:32 mossnter (15L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 61-96 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 1513(drain) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2795 | Sp: b.cold (3d29), paralyse, sum.greater demon, animate dead, iron shot (3d34), teleport self [04emergency] / b.corrosive (3d23), slow, invisibility, throw icicle (3d29), crystal spear (3d40) / b.fire (3d29), confuse, haste, b.draining (3d27), sum.greater demon, banishment [04emergency] / mystic blast (3d24), b.cold (3d29), invisibility, animate dead, o.destruction (9d17) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 21:18:32 %??lich name:mossnter n_rpl 21:18:36 another good one: draw tomb next to a portal vault, have it time out while under walls, it becomes an untimed portal when you exit the tomb 21:18:47 wow 21:18:49 hahahaha 21:18:50 maybe there is a reason it doesn't let you do this 21:18:57 that is a good tech 21:19:00 yes 21:19:10 maybe i should go nem and abuse this in my game 21:19:11 I don't think _all_ features should be blocked by this, just stairs 21:19:22 erm 21:19:28 by blocked I mean temporarily removed 21:19:39 simmarine: it won't work in crawl, this is about letting it happen 21:19:45 oh 21:19:47 i see 21:20:06 it wouldnt be very fun to abuse other than saving a bazaar or something anyway 21:20:32 whooooooo wants to learn and improve the temporary terrain changes cooooooooooooooode 21:20:45 hahaha 21:21:08 well 21:21:24 maybe mister waterstairs? 21:21:26 we are not placing a lot of caustic shrikes 21:21:30 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v7U6Uj35Yo4fT7zwdVPd5mXvkd7p8yoLgzO_pORrtIU/edit?usp=sharing 21:22:06 .6 on U:4, .34 on U:5 21:22:07 ring of obsoleteness 21:22:15 Needs more shrike 21:22:24 1.5 in allof depths on average 21:22:42 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1967-g44a4cd5: Simplify slightly. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=44a4cd55a6b2 21:22:45 ugh I can tell exactly where that d:1 trash is from 21:23:02 so can i 21:23:03 d:1 21:23:15 1.5 is probably plenty now that they're ood 21:23:31 no I mean a stupid vault 21:23:39 is it grated community 21:23:45 adders 21:23:53 ...oh, I misread the results 21:23:56 Lasty: it's a bit few for a monster we're testing, at least 21:24:21 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:24:33 gammafunk: true, but they're pretty dang scary, and we don't want to just kill everyone 21:24:35 hrm, would be nice to have band stats actually 21:24:36 gammafunk, while you've got that all set-up can, can you move the mon-pick-data shrike from 8 minimum depth to 6 minimum depth 21:24:38 . . . or do we 21:24:40 :D 21:24:48 theTower: sure 21:25:40 oh. that reminds me to dig up on old c++11 only project 21:25:53 0.13 ghost crabs, really 21:26:20 let me guess, shapeshifters aren't identified with this? 21:26:26 they should be 21:26:34 but maybe I should check 21:26:44 how are monster types for SS handled? 21:27:21 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:27:34 it chooses a random monster around the HD of the shifter and then places it without equipment and then gives it the glowing/shapeshifter tag? 21:27:40 by tag I mean ench 21:27:48 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1802-g485c046: Let Tomb card place walls on stone stairs. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=485c046de4fd 21:27:52 I doubt there are 0 and 0.01 shapeshifters in all of depths so 21:27:54 well no I mean in monster class 21:28:09 as in what changes in the class 21:28:11 oh, no clue >_> 21:28:13 but yeah that does sound off 21:28:37 PleasingFungus: what is 21:28:55 dang wheals, now i have to recompile *everything* 21:28:57 theTower: so with these velocity changes, which is the low power result 21:29:12 !shuffle gammafunk 21:29:59 N78291: did you look into tomb on water 21:30:12 oh, gah 21:30:21 it's a dagnabit enchant? 21:30:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:40 I said it's an ench! 21:30:41 well, that explains it then 21:31:00 theTower: yeah but the key thing is that 21:31:05 it changes monster->type 21:31:06 discover of the day: crawl's old -pizza option 21:31:19 mm 21:31:19 hoooo boy 21:31:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:31:24 what did that do? 21:31:25 rip pizza 21:31:30 gammafunk: guess 21:31:35 uh 21:31:42 it gave...pizza? 21:31:44 it's like nethack's fruit option 21:31:54 oh ok 21:31:55 that's cute 21:32:11 it set your favourite pizza 1/3 of the time when eating 21:32:18 n78291: well, there's always the player effect itself, too, and 21:32:19 ... 21:32:31 features! 21:32:40 why does chei protect you from inadvertent hurry from the _slowing_ effect 21:32:55 well, slow removal effect 21:33:16 PleasingFungus: what was the project that needed c++11? 21:33:16 okay, and here I thought I knew what velocity was doing 21:33:23 wheals: weapon brand reform 21:33:26 I'm looking at it now 21:33:29 !!! 21:33:34 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:33:47 unifying the 6 places that brand messages are printed would be <3 21:33:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:34:25 ??gammafunk 21:34:26 gammafunk[1/11]: TODO: grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, give Frederick spellforged servitor? 21:34:32 that would be nice too 21:34:37 my thing is dumber than that, tho 21:34:47 not gonna say any more until I figure out if I can actually do it 21:34:53 k 21:34:53 !learn add s/, give.+/, make objstat properly count shapeshifters/ 21:34:54 s/,[1/1]: give.+/, make objstat properly count shapeshifters/ 21:35:01 !learn edit gammafunk[1] s/, give.+/, make objstat properly count shapeshifters/ 21:35:03 gammafunk[1/11]: TODO: grand avatar movement bug, monster ranged always going through allies, make objstat properly count shapeshifters 21:35:04 so, remove slow if power 1/2/0 and coinflip, remove haste if power 0, 1/3 | 2/3 | always slow monsters and haste allies 21:35:12 !learn del s/, 21:35:13 Deleted s/,[1/1]: give.+/, make objstat properly count shapeshifters/ 21:35:23 i was thinking that a good new thing for data-isation might be species 21:35:28 wheals: what's the issue with tomb and water? just that deep water isn't counted as acceptable? 21:35:39 yeah 21:35:57 which is really weird if you're a merfolk since you then walk across it and cancel the tomb :/ 21:36:18 I guess the solution would be temporary terrain? 21:36:57 well, that's what tomb is 21:36:59 1/3 | 1/12 | never haste monsters and slow allies, 1/3 | 11/36 | never nothing 21:37:05 my head aches again 21:37:13 i wouldn't be surprised if it worked codewise 21:37:17 already 21:37:24 wheals: yeah, absolutely 21:37:29 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-1968-ge054290: Decrease the minimum depth of placement for caustic shrikes 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e05429002cc0 21:37:31 re species 21:37:35 there's a ton of stuff that could be exported, there 21:37:47 -!- Yermak_ is now known as Yermak 21:37:51 gammafunk: uh, I meant to see the stats for it... 21:37:56 wheals: ! ! ! it compiled ! ! ! 21:37:57 but that works too 21:38:04 heh, good news is I'm running those now 21:38:37 wish it could be faster though, why does my system seem slow 21:38:50 ...augh, where does lexcomp live 21:38:54 this warningspam is driving me nutes 21:38:56 *nuts 21:39:12 prebuilt/levcomp.lex.cc 21:39:32 something seems to be in util 21:40:04 I tried that, and saw 21:40:04 * a 5% performance hit in a non-yylineno scanner, because yy_act is 21:40:04 * normally declared as a register variable-- so it is not worth it. 21:40:21 so apparently register totally speeds it up!!!!! 21:40:26 aaaarggghhhhh 21:40:27 I don't care 21:40:33 I can get this to build against contrib sdl2 21:40:35 which of these files do I edit 21:40:35 but it segfaults!!! 21:40:39 !debug Grunt 21:40:40 PleasingFungus sets a breakpoint on Grunt. Grunt struggles to resist. You crash... Would you like your variables identified? 21:40:58 n78291: okay, uh. power 0 1/3 each chance for slow m slow a / haste m haste a / swift m swift a? and then level 1 is either slow m or haste a, and then level 2 is slow m and haste a? 21:41:17 pretty sure it's just prebuilt/levcomp.lex.cc 21:41:19 alongside the current slow-removal and haste-removal effects? 21:41:27 just :%s/register //g 21:41:50 still dangerous at low power but not a horrible mistake if your allies are present 21:42:07 wheals: just did 21:42:09 maybe cut the swift 21:42:56 alternatively alternatively, just make it always slow m haste a and just make the duration next to nothing at low power >_> 21:43:26 PleasingFungus: i don't remember if i ever showed you this, but compare monster::is_child_tentacle to mons_is_child_tentacle 21:44:00 yesssssss 21:44:01 it runs!!!!! 21:44:10 woohoo 21:44:22 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:44:42 how many conversations going on does that make this 21:44:49 not enough 21:44:50 obviously 21:45:03 !source mons_is_child_tentacle 21:45:04 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-tentacle.cc;hb=HEAD#l60 21:45:10 !source monster::is_child_tentacle 21:45:11 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-tentacle.cc;hb=HEAD#l27 21:45:17 hahahaha 21:45:25 472 | Forest:1 | Slain by a snaplasher vine (4 damage) 21:45:25 | ... attached to a dryad 21:45:38 so it looks like mons_is_child_tentacle is the one that should be changed 21:45:40 sounds about right 21:47:39 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1803-gf208ea7: Let Tomb work on deep water. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f208ea711aed 21:47:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1969-ga1dee86: De-registerize 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1dee86e4218 21:48:39 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:48:52 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:49:02 gammafunk: did you ever figure out that -ldl thing for sdl? 21:49:13 shrike placement is not radically different http://sprunge.us/LPJR 21:49:20 Grunt: yes I made a commit for that 21:49:27 %git :/WebTiles 21:49:27 07gammafunk02 {bh} * 0.16-a0-1956-gad979be: Fix WebTiles compilation on OS X 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad979bea98b2 21:49:41 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:49:42 well, that's in bh's misbranch but that's in trunk 21:49:44 h m m m 21:49:46 1.54 > 2.17? mmm 21:50:21 Grunt: good news, I think I have an elf floor 21:50:25 bh: ! 21:50:26 er, elf brick 21:50:35 well 21:50:36 here we go 21:50:42 New branch created: sdl2 (4 commits) 21:50:44 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1970-ge3f08b9: SDL2 submodules. 10(85 minutes ago, 3 files, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3f08b9775ae 21:50:44 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1971-g7ba147b: Fundamentals of an SDL2 port. 10(7 months ago, 6 files, 205+ 133-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ba147b8b723 21:50:44 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1972-gb39e1ce: Start adjusting makefiles for contrib-y goodness. 10(75 minutes ago, 2 files, 29+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b39e1cea6671 21:50:44 03Grunt02 07[sdl2] * 0.16-a0-1973-g3d4ad5d: Update SDL2 contribs. 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3d4ad5ddd9d4 21:50:46 PleasingFungus: go break this: 21:50:47 granted, it's currently random and unstably so it won't persist across saves 21:51:06 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:03 gammafunk: +50% seems dramatic 21:52:15 "dramatic" 21:52:17 Grunt: will do shortly 21:52:17 hrm? you mean for shrikes? 21:52:20 yes 21:52:21 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 21:52:29 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:52:30 their uh, absolute number is quite low 21:52:41 -!- Lingo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:30 I'll see half a caustic shrike more, on average 21:54:21 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:54:43 half a shrike, half a shrike, half a shrike onwards 21:54:49 http://i.imgur.com/ajc4066.png 21:54:53 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:58 hey theTower: here's some more card descriptions, including edited versions of the ones from last night 21:56:13 where's all the colour go 21:56:37 did you the link 21:56:44 gammafunk: I set it to 60% white 21:56:45 gammafunk: I'd think the ideal case here is something spikey: a shrike pack appearing one in x games 21:56:56 rather than a dribble of shrikes in each game 21:57:04 oh, motherfu-- http://pastebin.com/G0eHXFaV 21:57:22 Buggy: The card depicts a Crawl player filing a bug report on Mantis. 21:57:26 excellent 21:57:27 PleasingFungus: then you probably want them to be a unique 21:57:54 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1970-g0967df0: Avoid "Slain by a snaplasher vine ... attached to a dryad." 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0967df0833f1 21:58:07 "religious icon" seems weird 21:58:19 yeah but i wanted something generic 21:58:24 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:32 gammafunk: heh 21:58:33 i don't even really know if the good gods have specific symbols associated with them 21:58:33 I suppose so 21:58:33 reasonable, if awkward 21:58:46 why not "shield"? 21:59:10 it's for the crusade card, i wanted something religious 21:59:18 Alchemist: the card depicts an alchemist. 21:59:44 Well. It does. 21:59:45 the card depicts a bubbling flask on a laboratory workbench 21:59:53 that works too 21:59:53 s/an alchemist/Paracelsus 22:00:09 what idiot left it on the bench with just a stopper that's what the holders are for 22:00:10 gammafunk: http://i.imgur.com/3IwJtG8.png 22:00:19 alchemists played by their own rules 22:00:30 they didn't care about things like lab safety 22:00:40 PleasingFungus: but if you mean that, what you can do is just give them the ancient lich treatment; they were definitely driblly before have 8x the weight of an a. lich 22:00:54 definitely driblly before have 8x the weight of an a. lich 22:00:55 I'd recommend basically giving them a. lich weight exactly in depths if that's what you'd like 22:00:55 what? 22:01:06 PleasingFungus: they had 8x weight of a. lich 22:01:08 The shrike dribbles the basketball up the court! 22:01:11 and a. lich is very rare in depths 22:01:18 pretty much like what you're asking for 22:01:25 I'm mainly curious if they're spawning in packs 22:01:27 You dice the shrike like an onion!! 22:01:28 that doesn't quite work because of 8 bands 22:01:29 or as singlets in vaults 22:01:36 yeah the bands complicates things 22:01:36 !log . nane 22:01:37 1. wheals, XL27 NaNe, T:102947: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20140625-164141.txt 22:01:44 97293 | Tomb:3 | Identified the +9 dagger "Shrecuu" {stab, rElec rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Tomb of the Ancients)] 22:01:45 I'd like to add a band thing, but that's actually...hrm 22:01:52 do bands always get a band leader? 22:02:07 technically, yes 22:02:08 I kind of like the idea of turning them into a unique 22:02:10 or at least something in monster class 22:02:19 yes, if not necessarily distinct from the band or a reliable band placement 22:02:27 the shrike pack? 22:02:42 hm win32 build failed on account of a known bug in SDL2 which I can backport; now I need to get EGL for the build environment apparently.... 22:02:43 the murder of shrikes 22:02:48 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:02:54 for the xom card i was going to do the random description thing, once i get around to figuring it out, and having "The card depicts an acolyte of Xom ", i figured that since the altar tiles already depict xom the card can depict the other half of the transaction 22:02:56 is this when mumra finall gets 22:03:01 Grunt: backporting bugs already? 22:03:01 swarm enemies 22:03:05 after all this time 22:03:08 that was eronarn's thing 22:03:08 wheals: the *fix* :( 22:03:08 rip 22:03:35 nicolae-: i had a xom card suggestion 22:03:53 The card depicts an acolyte of Xom being slapped with a large trout! 22:04:05 The card depicts a teddy bear wearing a monocle. 22:04:06 ontoclasm: what is it? 22:04:09 s/acolyte/toy/ 22:04:25 hrm, even reporting bads in kind of complicated, since some band types are heterogenous 22:04:26 i was gonna go with plaything 22:04:30 The card depicts the Mad God, Xom, though it's impossible to say exactly how. 22:04:39 -!- kipster has quit [Client Quit] 22:04:54 [toy|plaything|victim] imp 22:04:56 but I guess just having band size regardless of what's in it 22:04:58 would be helpful 22:04:58 *imo 22:06:23 -!- pelotron has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:06:26 Degeneration: The card depicts an elf whose flesh is sloughing off, revealing a goblin underneath. 22:06:30 this seems rather racist 22:06:35 gross wheals 22:07:14 it's not my fault goblins have lower HD than elves 22:07:30 Degeneration: The card depicts a deep dwarf whose flesh is sloughing off, revealing a mountain dwarf underneath. 22:07:36 who 22:07:42 a 22:07:53 maybe use animals instead >_> 22:08:06 sadly they have the same HD 22:08:09 -!- Mottikins_ is now known as FaMott 22:08:13 dire elephant -> quokka 22:08:26 alligator -> giant newt? 22:08:31 oh, nice 22:08:34 elephant to sheep 22:08:42 just newt imho 22:08:45 * wheals baas balefully. 22:08:48 "degenerating" into a giant sounds weird 22:08:58 maybe we should rename the monster then 22:09:00 yeah, animals would work better 22:09:05 meganewt 22:09:17 wheals: http://sprunge.us/GWPE 22:09:27 The card depicts a knight being turned into a frog by an evil witch. 22:09:37 i think i like dragon -> sheep, dragons are a sort of iconic ferocious monster 22:09:41 oh this 22:09:44 oh, didn't see tha tone 22:09:48 *that one 22:10:11 it's a bit too C++ for me 22:10:15 heh 22:10:20 to evaluate or to like? 22:10:21 give me good old switch-case 22:10:24 ha! 22:10:40 I'm just concerned about my random_choose_weighted implementation 22:10:46 both that I have one and that I'm not 100% sure it's right 22:11:02 -!- Lingo has quit [Quit: Lingo: www.lingoirc.com] 22:11:26 isn't there a random_choose_weighted that takes a map or something? 22:11:35 ...is there...? 22:11:40 who looks after lantea? 22:11:51 tzer0 22:12:01 huh, i guess not 22:12:06 ! 22:12:07 T* random_choose_weighted(vector >& choices) 22:12:10 this looks exactly right 22:12:25 !seen TZer0 22:12:26 I last saw TZer0 at Wed Nov 5 15:24:54 2014 UTC (1d 12h 47m 32s ago) joining the channel. 22:13:10 03bh02 07[domino] * 0.16-a0-1965-g222c28e: Update the Elf Brick Layout to use dominoes 10(56 seconds ago, 1 file, 26+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=222c28e5ee81 22:13:26 are elves big domino players 22:13:48 ya 22:14:01 it's boring down there 22:14:45 anyway, i'm only semi-joking about it being too C++; i feel like it doesn't necessarily make it easier to edit the code or add a new brand / weapon type in the future 22:15:17 TZer0: lantea ok? 22:15:47 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:15:56 http://sprunge.us/TiFF ahh 22:15:58 now THIS is good 22:16:15 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 22:16:25 PleasingFungus: thank you! 22:16:25 wheals: mm 22:16:33 bh: ? 22:16:45 for de-garbaging things 22:17:22 wheals: I'm trying to decide if it would make sense to put this in the existing big table of weapon data 22:17:25 in itemprop.cc 22:17:31 oh 22:17:39 if you could get that to work out, that might be good 22:17:45 since that certainly *would* make it easier to add new items without missing shit 22:17:46 s/might/would 22:17:48 yeah 22:17:57 it'd also be a little bit cluttery, I guess 22:18:19 also nice to not be defining it inside a function 22:18:26 does that matter? 22:18:34 i guess not really... 22:18:40 just feels wrong somehow 22:18:43 ya I gotcha 22:18:45 hm 22:18:48 I wonder if I can skip that in c++11 22:19:03 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 22:19:07 * Grunt skips PleasingFungus. 22:19:10 ! 22:19:12 "Stand back, I'm going to try... C++11!" 22:19:21 (Stand back, everyone. We know C++11.) 22:19:53 we do???? 22:20:07 maybe 22:20:08 <_< 22:20:33 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:20:50 we know C++???? 22:20:57 ??C++ 22:20:58 nope. 22:20:58 cocytus[1/1]: The frozen Hell. Beware of Ice Fiends. Ruled by Antaeus. Home of the icy rune. You will need flight for the last level. 22:21:01 no one knows C++ 22:21:16 !learn add goodsequell ??C++ cocytus[1/1]: 22:21:17 goodsequell[10/10]: ??C++ cocytus[1/1]: 22:21:28 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:24 !learn e goodsequell[10] s/$/ The frozen Hell. 22:22:25 goodsequell[10/10]: ??C++ cocytus[1/1]: The frozen Hell. 22:23:01 q??c++ 22:23:01 c++[1/1]: see {cocytus} 22:23:04 huh 22:23:10 -!- Buxus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:23:24 oh 22:23:26 so not really goodsequell 22:23:31 ya 22:23:33 still 22:23:41 decentsequell 22:23:48 for variable values of good 22:24:01 * wheals stuffs Grunt in a variable-length array. 22:24:12 wheals: I am not an array! 22:24:22 !send Grunt ar ray.cc 22:24:23 Sending ar ray.cc to Grunt. 22:24:28 nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 22:24:57 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:25:10 the horror of ray.cc is such that it killed wheals by handling it 22:25:41 -!- CanOfWorms has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:08 -!- vimpulse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:54 h m m m 22:27:17 ...using GCC 4.7 in a mingw environment in Linux will probably need some makefile adjustments 22:27:37 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:27 03N7829102 07[cards] * 0.16-a0-1804-g11522a4: Change Velocity card. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 62+ 36-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=11522a43e015 22:29:11 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:29:17 is git://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl.git 0.15.2 or trunk? 22:29:23 theTower: there is something 22:29:35 something! 22:30:22 CanOfWorms: it is both 22:30:23 CanOfWorms: both 22:30:25 haha 22:30:26 Grunt: hi.... 22:30:28 yeah, that'll... do, for now, I think 22:30:32 hrmm 22:30:43 CanOfWorms: the "master" branch is trunk; the "stone_soup-0.15" branch is current 0.15 work (including 0.15.2) 22:30:48 my 0.15.2 folder that I'm messing with is not cloned 22:30:48 CanOfWorms: the 0.15.2 tag is specifically 0.15.2 :) 22:31:02 I sincerely thank you for coding all my silly ideas, n78291. 22:31:14 so I have no idea how to make the patch reaver is suggesting 22:31:22 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:26 this keeps compiling. why does this keep compiling 22:31:30 is c++11 witchcraft 22:31:39 now to just re-write all the cards 22:31:49 pleasingfungus: yes, definitely 22:32:34 %git 22:32:34 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-1970-g0967df0: Avoid "Slain by a snaplasher vine ... attached to a dryad." 10(42 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0967df0833f1 22:32:39 h m m m m m m m m m m 22:32:54 I think I'm going to have to upgrade my packaging environment from wheezy...... 22:33:06 ...right, rewriting the card descriptions and rebasing to see what horrible conflicts might arise 22:33:21 * ontoclasm reinstalls Grunt. 22:33:26 !rebase ontoclasm 22:33:27 Grunt rebases ontoclasm. Ontoclasm is banished to the reflog! 22:34:04 !tell wheals http://sprunge.us/bjZW 22:34:04 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 22:35:24 -!- crawlTV has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:29 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:37:58 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 22:40:00 of course, until someone finishes reforming item brand selection, this splits brand choices across two different files. 22:41:17 hmm... 22:41:38 what should I do to clone the oct 21 version of 0.15.2? 22:42:21 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:42:53 CanOfWorms: clone the repository; git checkout stone_soup-0.15 22:42:59 gets you the latest 0.15, which is the 0.15.2 release right now 22:45:41 The card depicts a repository in failed-merge recovery mode. 22:45:44 hey grunt 22:45:47 you like offering opinions on things, right 22:46:01 That depends on what "things" are. 22:46:10 Remember that my opinion is frequently 22:46:10 22:46:12 what is your favorite candy 22:46:18 22:46:20 ! 22:46:36 I am not much of a candy person. <_< 22:46:42 admittedly same 22:46:44 anyway 22:46:49 http://sprunge.us/HfDA trying to decide between this & just embedding the weight into each weapon entry 22:46:50 kitkats 22:46:55 ontoclasm: good choice 22:47:07 cookies 22:47:13 just... cookies, generally? 22:47:15 fr add kitkats as a food item 22:47:39 candy: gives lots of satiation temporarily, but you lose it all a little while later 22:47:51 also swiftness??? 22:48:18 rename porridge to fruit juice and add a fruit option 22:48:37 !send N78291 slime molds 22:48:38 Sending slime molds to N78291. 22:49:00 add spicy curry: deals small damage when eaten (rF+++ exempt) 22:49:24 add ambrosia: 22:50:02 alternatively, smash bros curry: when you eat spicy curry, temporarily get fire breath ability 22:51:13 I'd prefer a mint leaf 22:51:27 temporary ice breath? 22:51:36 You quaff the mint julep. 22:51:37 flight and wind blast on demand 22:51:37 imo 22:51:45 there we go 22:54:08 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:57:23 ret -= 'a' - 'A'; oh grunt 22:58:32 is 22:58:34 did I write that? 22:59:01 It is very Grunt, but I want to be sure...... 23:02:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:05:27 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:46 chequers: what if the number of letters changes!! 23:08:20 gotta future-proof against the possible removal of the letter q 23:09:07 that's not what a - A is calculating...... 23:09:39 no? 23:09:52 i figured that was converting letters to capitals 23:10:32 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 23:10:36 well yes but there are other things in between a and A than letters 23:11:00 yes but that's not as funny 23:11:04 sry 23:11:18 tbh, future-proofing against the removal of q is good 23:11:24 localization is real...... 23:11:31 though ofc that code wouldn't really do the trick :) 23:13:57 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:15:22 imo the future is not a location 23:15:59 language = 2099 23:16:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 23:18:31 ontoclasm: beep boop boop beep beeb boop! 23:19:33 in the year 2099 all human speech will consist of ironic internet memes 23:19:35 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 23:20:24 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:12 Unstable branch on CRAWL.XTAHUA.COM updated to: 0.16-a0-1970-g0967df0 (34) 23:22:23 in the year 2014 23:22:25 imho 23:25:28 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:26:28 -!- moose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:31:41 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:33:53 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:00 there's a megazig page on the chaosforge wiki <3 23:36:30 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:41:43 ! 23:42:54 the wiki keeps deleting my edits 23:43:28 there is a warning on the front page about "hardware issues" 23:44:00 yeah i dunno wtf is with the admin 23:45:39 it looks like the primary editor of the megazig page is...Berder 23:45:53 -!- shummie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:45:53 gammafunk, geekosaur, i just got back home 23:45:54 and it worked 23:45:58 it worked you geniuses 23:46:00 whats the page? 23:46:08 http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Mega-Zig 23:46:24 lol There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page. 23:46:31 works for me! 23:46:45 I'd recommend against low HP races like Deep Elves. Deep Elves have high aptitudes, but that doesn't matter in the long run after all skills are maxed out. 23:47:10 works frmo another ip 23:47:26 Ghost Moths 23:47:28 Turn invisible, or just spam disc of storms. 23:53:39 I like how he doesn't know how ridiculously dangerous chaos champion spam is 23:54:23 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:56:13 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:56:34 does mon_glyph = player:red X work for anyone else? I'm getting lightgrey no matter what I pick 23:57:17 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59:12 I am getting light grey as well but I cannot guarantee that's not a problem with my terminal cursor 23:59:36 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection]