00:02:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:45 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:40 elliptic: why on earth would you think that any action in crawl is "instant"? 00:05:44 the default is one turn, not "instant". 00:06:12 that is what everything in the game teaches players to expect. 00:08:07 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:08:34 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1686-g94d8484 (34) 00:09:26 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:12:09 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:12:13 ice dragon (16D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 72-102 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 17, 1709(claw), 1707(trample) | cold-blooded, fly | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 983 | Sp: cold breath (3d24) | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 00:12:13 %??ice dragon 00:12:24 johnny0: this looks white...? 00:13:03 %git g6eca55f 00:13:03 Could not find commit g6eca55f (git returned 128) 00:13:08 %git 6eca55f 00:13:09 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1514-g6eca55f: Don't crash when placing MONS_DRACONIAN 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6eca55f649a8 00:13:17 fr: make chei strip leading gs from commit hashes 00:28:09 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:28:23 PleasingFungus: strange, i don't have problems with other white text -- oh well 00:29:07 might be 00:29:09 a miscolored monster 00:29:13 the bug lives......! 00:29:41 maybe someday I'll remove monster/item colour state and make everything happy forever 00:29:54 it's really hard to care when I don't play console, tho. 00:30:09 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:30:46 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141026030205]] 00:33:20 ice dragon shows up fine on my client 00:34:02 hmm, maybe it bugged out last time i rebuilt and i just didn't notice 00:35:16 -!- Mazed has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:09 -!- Mazed has 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error: Connection reset by peer] 05:59:27 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:05:36 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:47 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:08:21 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:12:26 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 06:13:09 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:15:21 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 06:18:48 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:20:45 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28:46 woohoo no crashes 06:34:00 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34:03 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 06:36:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:38:42 <|amethyst> !tell PleasingFungus re elliptic's comment, it does kind of imply that royal jelly, pizza, beef jerky, and chunks can be eaten in one turn 06:38:43 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 06:45:00 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1687-g1ee98a2: Describe turn cost of all foods. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 19+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ee98a20225d 06:54:51 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05:29 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:35 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:15:20 I thought pizza was removed 07:15:26 along with all fun food 07:15:30 in preparation for removing all food 07:15:40 * Wensley can hope 07:21:37 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:21:44 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 07:26:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:28:34 !tell pleasingfungus by instant I meant one turn... 07:28:34 elliptic: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:30:42 |amethyst: thanks for fixing the descriptions (I still think that we don't need different turncount lengths for eating, let alone three different lengths, but that's another argument...) 07:30:54 <|amethyst> elliptic: four different lengths 07:30:59 <|amethyst> chunks are 3 07:31:10 <|amethyst> but I didn't want to go into that much detail in the description screen 07:31:14 right 07:31:17 <|amethyst> I think two would be adequate 07:31:51 <|amethyst> say, 1 turn for fruit/jerky, 3 turns for everything else 07:33:32 <|amethyst> otherwise, I don't see much of a reason to have more than three or four types of permafood (two rations, fruit for fedhas, and maybe rj or pizza as a universal food) 07:34:01 <|amethyst> or possibly just two (honey rations and fruit) 07:35:22 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Changing host] 07:35:34 <|amethyst> ... or even one (with fedhas abilities using rations) 07:37:01 I think going down to two food lengths would be a start, and a decent number of people do seem to like having some food be fast 07:37:18 What's an appropriate place to put a init_sac_index() function? I don't want to make sacrifice.h/cc just to hold that one function, but it doesn't seem appropriate anywhere else. 07:37:32 <|amethyst> Lasty: where is the index used? 07:37:42 I do think that reducing the carnivore/herbivore food distinction would be nice 07:37:52 |amethyst: startup.cc. This is the thing we were discussing last night. 07:38:06 <|amethyst> Lasty: ? 07:38:20 <|amethyst> Lasty: I would expect you'd use it somewhere in the god code 07:38:31 most species don't really care about the difference between bread, meat, and rj; it is sort of bad that we have three different ones there just for the sake of 3ish species 07:38:34 <|amethyst> if you only need the index during startup, probably you can do without the index at all 07:38:52 Oh, I see what you mean 07:39:05 yeah, it's needed by godabil.cc and abilities.cc 07:39:26 (I think Sp, Ko, Fe, Gh is the current list of species that can eat only one of bread/meat?) 07:40:09 <|amethyst> Lasty: I would probably make the index static in one of those two, and put the init_ and the accessor (equivalent of get_mutation_def) in that file with prototypes in the corresponding header 07:40:23 <|amethyst> Lasty: just like init_mut_index and get_mutation_def are in mutation.cc 07:40:31 ok, thanks 07:41:23 <|amethyst> elliptic: yeah, all limited carnivory/herbivory was removed 07:42:26 <|amethyst> s/all/and all/ 07:42:54 <|amethyst> it kind of makes sense for the carnivores to have less access to permafood 07:43:15 <|amethyst> since they have more access to chunks 07:43:42 true, I don't think it is particularly important balance-wise though 07:44:31 it makes Ko/Fe/Gh sometimes have food problems if using a lot of high-hunger abilities (ely, conjurations) 07:45:03 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:45:11 mainly Ko, Fe has slow metab also 07:45:38 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:46:26 and Gh doesn't use ely and usually doesn't use conjurations that much unless with chei (who gives int to lessen their hunger) 07:47:17 it is less clear to me what to do about Sp 07:47:29 -!- Amnesthesia|Else is now known as Amnesthesia 07:48:13 I guess letting them eat more permafood would be fine if the permafood also gave less nutrition (which it would) 07:48:54 I forget how large the multiplier to nutrition is that Sp gets for bread rations and fruit, but I think it is pretty significant? 07:50:11 so I guess I don't see any huge problem at the moment with merging bread/meat/rj into one "ration" item that is edible by anyone and provides the same nutrition that rations currently provide for humans 07:50:24 <|amethyst> hm 07:50:30 -!- eliana has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:51:07 <|amethyst> elliptic: it differs per food 07:51:25 <|amethyst> but is about +1/3 for bread (4400 neutral, +1500 for herb 3) 07:51:50 <|amethyst> only +1/6 for fruit (850 neutral, +150 for herb 3) 07:52:29 that is strange, I always assumed it would be the same multiplier 07:52:49 <|amethyst> hm 07:53:06 <|amethyst> not only that, it looks like Herb 2, if it existed, would give zero nutrition for chunks 07:53:58 <|amethyst> hm 07:54:01 <|amethyst> that isn't right... 07:54:25 where is this code? so far I've only found _apply_herbivore_nutrition_effects 07:54:31 <|amethyst> food_value 07:54:48 <|amethyst> and Food_prop for the numbers 07:55:27 <|amethyst> it seems to give nutrition, empirically, but I can't figure out why 07:56:16 I see 07:56:37 -!- debo has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:56:57 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:21 <|amethyst> oh right 07:57:31 <|amethyst> chunks don't actually use that code, they you the code you found 07:57:41 <|amethyst> _apply_herbivore_nutrition_effects 07:57:48 yeah, I was just figuring that out 07:59:01 <|amethyst> s/they you/they use/ # words 07:59:03 btw I didn't realize that royal jelly is not even close to the same nutrition as old royal jelly (is it the same as old honeycomb?) 07:59:25 <|amethyst> elliptic: yeah, old royal jelly was removed, then honeycomb was renamed 08:02:10 anyway I'd say that at the very least we could merge pizza and royal jelly and switch to only have two food durations as you suggested 08:02:47 <|amethyst> I think it's mostly flavour reasons that those two still exist 08:03:26 <|amethyst> some people really like pizza because (? nethack ?), and royal jelly has a few pun vaults 08:03:38 for more merging than that (i.e. doing away with some of the carnivore/herbivore distinctions), probably someone should actually look at stats for food item generation 08:05:07 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:05:07 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 08:10:01 <|amethyst> hm 08:10:12 <|amethyst> I guess for now I'll make pizza take 1 turn and royal jelly take 3? 08:10:35 <|amethyst> maybe their nutrition should be changed but that would require going through food vaults 08:12:07 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:12:13 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:14 making ration/jelly take 3 and everything else take 1 sounds reasonable to me 08:12:15 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:16 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:18 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:19 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:20 um 08:12:24 !crash * 08:12:25 9567. Surr, XL18 HOAK, T:39107 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Surr/crash-Surr-20141027-131220.txt 08:12:40 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:41 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:12:42 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:13:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1688-g9fdda32: Remove an obsolete comment. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9fdda32369f7 08:13:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1689-g913b5c9: Make all food take either 1 turn or 3 to eat (elliptic) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=913b5c9ed876 08:13:22 !crash * 08:13:22 9570. Surr, XL18 HOAK, T:39107 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Surr/crash-Surr-20141027-131242.txt 08:13:57 <|amethyst> !tell wheals spoke too soon !crashlog surr 61 08:13:57 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 08:14:07 Woo, rations/pizza buff. 08:14:16 <|amethyst> jelly nerf 08:14:33 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:14:52 -!- johnny0_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:40 <|amethyst> oh 08:17:03 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 08:17:16 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:17:19 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:17:20 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:17:21 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:17:44 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:17:58 <|amethyst> !tell wheals if there's a dead monster, monster_by_mid returns null while menv[mindex] still worked (though it might have been off-grid in some cases) 08:17:59 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 08:18:28 I went up the stairs in shoals under fear status. -> game crash and now I cant load the save 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9093 by Surr 08:18:42 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:19:04 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:19:19 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:19:44 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:18 Surr (L18 HOAK) (Shoals:3) 08:24:49 sacrifice-data.h:1: error: redefinition of 'struct sacrifice_def' sacrifice-data.h:2: error: previous definition of 'struct sacrifice_def' -- I'm getting this error. Line 1 is "struct sacrifice_def" and line 2 is "{", and the syntax is identical to the syntax for mutation_def in mutation.h. 08:26:13 sacrifice-data.h: http://pastebin.com/UzHSXgZd 08:26:47 <|amethyst> something is including the file twice 08:27:37 oh, that makes sense! 08:27:37 thanks 08:27:57 <|amethyst> if sacrifice-data is going to be included from other headers, it should have #ifndef SACRIFICE_DATA_H #define SACRIFICE_DATA_H #endif 08:28:28 <|amethyst> however, most of the -data headers don't use that, and instead are included from exactly one .cc file 08:28:52 I think I can avoid the multiple include situation -- everywhere that uses sacrifice-data.h should be including godabil.h, which includes sacrifice-data.h 08:28:54 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:00 <|amethyst> well 08:29:36 <|amethyst> if it works like most foo-data headers, godabil.h shouldn't include it at all 08:29:39 <|amethyst> only godabil.cc 08:30:24 I tried that, but then it complained when I tried to reference sacrifice_def as a return type . . 08:30:49 <|amethyst> you can put the struct definition in godabil.h 08:30:56 Okay 08:31:05 <|amethyst> what returns a sacrifice_def? 08:31:16 <|amethyst> oh, get_sacrifice_def I guess 08:31:25 yeah 08:32:16 <|amethyst> so this is like mutation: the struct is defined in mutation.h, and the data is in mutation-data.h; the former is included in a lot of places but the latter only in mutation.cc 08:32:55 <|amethyst> so changes to the structure of the data requires a pretty big recompile, but changing the data itself only requires recompiling mutation.cc 08:33:27 <|amethyst> some code, like the monster entry stuff, goes even further and makes the struct private to the same .cc file 08:33:46 <|amethyst> then that .cc file has accessor functions that do the lookup and get one particular member 08:33:56 Ah, okay. I asked about that earlier and someone said they wanted to move the mutation_def into mutation-data.h, but maybe I misunderstood 08:34:15 <|amethyst> Lasty: they were talking about the "goes even further" thing 08:35:39 hmm, okay 08:42:52 -!- Kadarus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:47:54 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1690-g15df99b: Don't crash on nonexistent fearmongers/beholders (#9093) 10(23 minutes ago, 2 files, 9+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=15df99b18340 08:48:34 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1689-g913b5c9 (34) 08:48:42 <|amethyst> erm 08:50:17 <|amethyst> there we go 08:50:36 <|amethyst> forgot that it takes git.develz.org a little while to get new commits 08:50:50 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1690-g15df99b (34) 08:52:08 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:03:52 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:09:08 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:09 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:29 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:14:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:15:16 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: on y va] 09:16:06 -!- hauzer has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:07 -!- Taraiph has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:10 ??curse toe 09:24:11 curse toe[1/3]: A rotting toe. Gross! Likes summoning lots of {wandering mushroom}s and {deathcap}s at you, then tormenting you. Zot-exclusive, outside of certain vaults and zig sets. Moves slower than its action speed. 09:25:25 |amethyst: I could use your help again. Compilation is now getting to the LINK crawl.exe step, and then giving a ton of errors like this: attitude-change.o: In function `player_in_branch': 09:25:25 c:/msysgit/mingw/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/include/c++/bits/char_traits.h:262: multiple definition of `sac_data_map' 09:25:54 does that mean I've picked a name for my sacrifice map that coincides with something in char_traits.h? 09:26:49 trying it again w/ a different name 09:27:22 nope, that's not it 09:32:40 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:44 seems like everything throwing errors is a static inline bool 09:34:14 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:35:04 well, static inline anyway 09:35:04 Lasty: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:37:11 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:39:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:13 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:42:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:43:01 -!- johnny0_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:43:21 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:45:39 <|amethyst> Lasty: are you defining functions in your header? 09:46:17 <|amethyst> Lasty: oh, multiple definition of sac_data_map; where is that declared and where is it defined? 09:47:08 declared in . . . oh. The .h file. It should probably be in .cc? 09:47:26 <|amethyst> Lasty: you want it to be defined in one .cc file, then declared with extern in the .h file if it is to be public 09:47:34 <|amethyst> oh 09:47:50 <|amethyst> what is inline? 09:48:26 e.g. "static inline bool player_in_branch" 09:49:42 -!- zombcode has quit [Quit: :tiuQ] 09:50:01 <|amethyst> ah, I thought maybe you had some inline functions or something 09:50:29 nope -- not my inlines, random ones from other headers 09:51:12 hat fixed it tho 09:51:25 *that 09:52:07 now I get to test it and determine whether I broke anything 09:53:56 -!- tumblemist is now known as TheMattybee 10:03:05 -!- LexAckson_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:31 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:06:30 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:11:46 -!- Kadarus|2 is now known as Kadarus 10:13:02 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:14:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:57 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:30 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:21:52 -!- bcode is now known as zombcode 10:25:04 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:27:02 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:14 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:32:27 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:42 |amethyst: yeah, thought that killing a monster would remove it from your beholder/fearmonger list before it got kicked out of the mid cache, but apparently not 10:33:59 ah, this was stairs 10:35:49 fun fact: i wanted to convert MiscastEffects to use mids but i decided beam.cc was easier to understand than spl-miscast.cc so i did that instead 10:36:11 -!- LexAckson_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:38:23 Testing complete. The Ru refactor patch is at http://pastebin.com/UUqmyHTQ, in case anyone would be interested in reviewing and suggesting further improvements before I push it. 10:39:34 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:56 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:41:04 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:41:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 10:42:53 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:44:58 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:53:18 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:53:20 asanbosam (L27 VpSu) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_index(mg.foe) || mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1681 failed. (Coc:7) 10:56:48 !crashlog asanbosam 10:56:49 4. asanbosam, XL27 VpSu, T:117510 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/asanbosam/crash-asanbosam-20141027-155317.txt 10:59:27 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:07 !source mon-cast.cc 11:01:08 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc;hb=HEAD 11:01:32 oh 11:01:33 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:01:35 !source beam.cc 11:01:36 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/beam.cc;hb=HEAD 11:02:15 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:02:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:02:52 -!- epsik has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:03:11 double hm 11:03:27 -!- keszocze has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:05:08 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:06:11 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:21 so the wellspring apparently has a foe of 0, but i'm not certain how my changes made that possible 11:09:55 i assume something is giving it MID_NOBODY as a foe (when of course foe is not a mid) and i don't see where that might happen 11:10:55 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:13:32 or actually, mg.band_template.foe = 0, gdb doesn't show the value of mg.foe it appears 11:17:21 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:18:30 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:20:31 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:26 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:26 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:42:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:43:18 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 11:44:44 nice 11:44:59 draconian player illusions now have draining breath and their own drac breath 11:45:05 -!- read has quit [Quit: bye.] 11:46:16 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:53:23 -!- djanatyn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 11:54:50 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:56:00 -!- wvc has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:56:11 -!- wvc has quit [Client Quit] 11:57:44 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:01:40 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:16 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:13:33 -!- nickajeglin has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:16:38 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1690-g15df99b (34) 12:24:29 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:24:51 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:26:41 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:29:31 -!- Harkenn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:29:39 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:31:01 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:01 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:33:34 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:55 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:35:50 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:35:52 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38:20 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:45:11 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 12:45:40 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:04:16 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:16 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:05:33 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:33 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 13:05:33 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??cbro for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 13:12:05 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:13:43 -!- twzt has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:14:02 -!- BigbluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:15:35 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Client Quit] 13:19:25 -!- Lasty has left ##crawl-dev 13:19:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:46 HilariousDeathArtist (L20 CeFi) ASSERT(in_bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1431 failed. (mon->target = (18,69)) (Tomb:1) 13:32:11 !crashlog HilariousDeathArtist 13:32:11 27. HilariousDeathArtist, XL20 CeFi, T:54542 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/HilariousDeathArtist/crash-HilariousDeathArtist-20141027-183142.txt 13:32:19 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:14 -!- Ctrl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:36:05 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:36:09 -!- HDA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:57 <|amethyst> wheals: mg.foe is YOU_FAULTLESS 13:39:52 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:40:21 -!- winlu has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.1-dev] 13:41:29 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:46:21 <|amethyst> wheals: not related to this crash, but MiscastEffect::init doesn't handle YOU_FAULTLESS either (it used to) 13:55:06 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 13:57:16 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:59:15 hackum (L27 NaFi) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1941 failed. (Zig:4) 13:59:34 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:01:05 <|amethyst> Grunt: that crash is from shadow mimicking a shift-dir shot 14:02:59 asanbosam (L27 VpSu) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_index(mg.foe) || mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1681 failed. (Coc:7) 14:03:00 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:03:46 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:04:58 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:06:29 <|amethyst> hm, I think that shield crash (asanbosam) is a result of replace beam_source_as_target() with agent() 14:06:43 <|amethyst> s/replace/replacing/ 14:09:47 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:09:56 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:11:20 -!- ystael has quit [Client Quit] 14:11:25 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:14:59 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:17:33 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:10 -!- Unano has quit [] 14:20:21 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:20:45 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1691-ga0504c5: Don't crash when reflecting a wellspring's beam. 10(72 seconds ago, 2 files, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0504c57e029 14:20:49 -!- Twiggytwiggytwi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:21:54 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:22:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:51 <|amethyst> wheals: looks like that was from beam_source_as_target() going away 14:23:05 i gues 14:23:12 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:22 <|amethyst> wheals: one thing it did that agent() doesn't do was converting YOU_FAULTLESS to &you 14:23:55 yeah 14:24:00 beam blaming is so weird... 14:24:55 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:55 -!- speranza has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:22 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:33 -!- Redz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:27:58 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:28:11 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:13 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:32:23 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:32:31 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:17 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:25 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:38:15 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:07 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:40:17 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:42:00 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:42:57 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:11 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:06 |amethyst: oh, I was worried it was a tombfodder bug :) 14:45:30 !death HDA's Tomb 14:45:31 Death has come for HDA's Tomb... 14:45:34 <|amethyst> Grunt: I reproduced it once but it didn't work the next time I tried 14:45:39 |amethyst: hm 14:46:21 Autoexploring bug 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9094 by Yermak 14:47:05 <|amethyst> hm 14:47:23 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:27 <|amethyst> sounds like the same thing as 14:47:33 <|amethyst> %git 2008e14c 14:47:33 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-1550-g2008e14: Don't mark stash corpses new just because of time (#9059, #9060) 10(6 days ago, 1 file, 8+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2008e14c3300 14:47:34 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:00 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:08 <|amethyst> but that fix handled chunks too 14:50:02 <|amethyst> or at least was supposed to 14:50:07 <|amethyst> what does chunk.plus mean now? 14:50:43 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:51:13 I have no idea. Actual item chunks don't have their 'special' modified after initialization; I have no idea what stash.cc does 14:51:13 PleasingFungus: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:51:43 also re earlier messages: I honestly thought that non-ration food could be eaten in one turn, and I'm fine with them being changed to match that 14:51:45 <|amethyst> what indicates poisonous vs not 14:52:07 the monster_type, which is sadly still stored 14:52:16 I... don't remember what field that uses 14:52:32 !source butcher.cc 14:52:32 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/butcher.cc;hb=HEAD 14:52:34 <|amethyst> that's in plus 14:52:37 <|amethyst> hm 14:55:25 !unionise PleasingFungus 14:58:46 -!- eliana has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:02:18 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:39 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:04:58 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:17 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:06:39 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:05 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:09:19 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:14:49 !marshall wheals 15:14:59 !strike gammafunk 15:15:11 !free Grunt 15:15:22 * wheals unsuccesfully fights Grunt's attempt to engrave! 15:15:23 <|amethyst> if you want to serialise only one member of a struct 15:15:27 <|amethyst> would you use a field marshall? 15:15:46 ........ 15:16:38 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:12 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:22:03 Rest doesn't stop on ally teleporting away 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9095 by Ashizen 15:22:26 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 15:23:33 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:23:49 1learn add tragedy 15:25:24 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:25:37 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:26:06 hahaha 15:26:29 why are you laughing!!! 15:26:37 it is terribly tragic!!!! 15:27:36 that is why 15:27:38 I am a monster 15:27:42 -!- lawman0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:29:14 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-1691-gd1d74d7: Refactor Ru sacrifice code 10(5 hours ago, 7 files, 393+ 373-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1d74d769861 15:29:14 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-1693-g40b34e3: Merge branch 'refactor_sacrifices' 10(37 seconds ago, 0 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=40b34e3653d4 15:29:35 heh, a branch with one commit? 15:29:43 oops 15:29:48 that was for logistical reasons 15:30:06 a branch with one commit is reasonable 15:30:12 %git shard 15:30:13 07mumra02 {PleasingFungus} * 0.16-a0-1676-gba8439a: Convert Tome of Destruction to Shard of Destruction 10(1 year, 4 months ago, 26 files, 79+ 112-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba8439a53a5f 15:30:20 e.g. 15:30:22 well yeah for development, but probably you could just rebase onto master 15:30:23 I didn't mean to keep the merge commit message :p 15:30:27 well, yes. 15:30:40 the number of commits doesn't really matter for that, tho? 15:31:08 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:13 !learn add PleasingFungus I am a monster 15:31:14 pleasingfungus[13/13]: I am a monster 15:31:14 well I think Lasty agreed with my meaning, which was just a merge commit for a branch with one commit 15:31:27 ^ 15:31:48 also does anyone else have problems with ghost demons (e.g. ghost.cc) 15:32:01 gammafunk: problems how? 15:32:03 I'm too lazy to refactor all of that, but the colour business there is a bit of a problem 15:32:06 I usually rebase after I merge, so I forgot that if you don't, it adds that commit message :p 15:32:26 !refactor gammafunk 15:32:46 I'm almost done with colour reform for monsters but 15:32:55 basically I need to decide how much I can fix wrt ghost demons 15:33:06 since they store color and the parent monster always has them set the colour 15:33:10 colour reform? 15:33:35 Grunt: get monster colour from the mon-data (which respects rc mon_glyph changes) whenever possible 15:33:50 mm 15:33:51 specifically user monster_symbols whenever possible 15:33:52 does that mean no more green fire giants 15:33:56 yeah hopefully 15:34:12 !send simmarine the fire giant 15:34:13 Sending the fire giant to simmarine. 15:34:26 the jolly green giant (03C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 77-117 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire++, 12drown | XP: 1815 | Sp: b.fire (3d25), fireball (3d26) | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 15:34:26 %??fire_giant name:the_jolly_green_giant col:green n_rpl 15:34:26 (rip the fire giant) 15:34:42 the jolly green giant (03C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 77-117 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 30 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire++, 12drown | XP: 1815 | Sp: b.fire (3d25), fireball (3d26) | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 15:34:42 %??fire_giant name:the_jolly_green_giant col:green n_rpl god:Fedhas 15:34:43 I guess 15:35:08 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:35:55 not much I can do about ghost demons stuff having its own colour, but i need to decide how much we'd allow mon_glyph stuff 15:36:15 !send gammafunk stuff 15:36:16 Sending stuff to gammafunk. 15:36:16 basically might need to add some rc checks for things that don't set their color according to data 15:36:27 pan lords, dancing weapons, player ghosts 15:36:35 would be nice if mon_glyph worked on those reliably 15:36:38 fr: dancing pand lords 15:36:42 s/pand/pan/ 15:36:47 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:36:52 imo save that for Mnoleg 15:36:58 the jolly green giant (03C) | Spd: 15 | HD: 21 | HP: 152-225 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 45 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 05fire++, 12drown | XP: 3364 | Sp: b.fire (3d30), fireball (3d32) | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 15:36:58 %??fire_giant name:the_jolly_green_giant hd:21 perm_ench:berserk col:green n_rpl god:Fedhas 15:36:58 and his klowning around 15:37:07 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:10 spooky Cheibriados! 15:37:32 titanic slime creature (03J) | Spd: 15 | HD: 11 | HP: 360-548 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Dam: 165 | amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 1316 | Sz: Giant | Int: plant. 15:37:32 %??titanic slime creature perm_ench:berserk 15:38:10 PleasingFungus: is there a pumpkin glyph we could use for certain ghosts on a certain date... 15:38:16 unknown monster: "mennas jolly mennasing fellow" 15:38:16 %??mennas hp:250 perm_ench:berserk name:a jolly mennasing fellow n_rpl 15:38:22 Ohs hsit 15:39:06 royal jelly (08J) | Spd: 21 | HD: 40 | HP: 345 | AC/EV: 8/4 | Dam: 7508(acid:7d3), 4508(acid:7d3) | 04eats items, see invisible | Res: 06magic(180), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 08blind, 12drown | Vul: 11silver | XP: 15000 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 15:39:06 %??the hd:40 royal perm_ench:berserk jelly 15:39:12 gammafunk: no. but there's something better 15:39:15 heh 15:39:19 ! 15:40:00 a jolly mennasing fellow (11A) | Spd: 22-23 | HD: 19 | HP: 375 | AC/EV: 15/28 | Dam: 45, 30 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 13magic(immune), 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 6989 | Sp: mass confusion, silence, minor healing (2d9) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:40:00 %??mennas hp:250 perm_ench:berserk name:a_jolly_mennasing_fellow n_rpl 15:40:24 maybe should have song of slaying instead of silence 15:40:29 JACK-O-LANTERN Unicode: U+1F383 (U+D83C U+DF83), UTF-8: F0 9F 8E 83 15:40:36 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:40:47 🎃 15:40:58 sorry, doesn't render for me 15:41:02 what's the code? 15:41:26 U+1F383 15:41:32 ah, same one 15:41:39 I guess it wouldn't work for a glyph 15:41:43 heh, didn't see geekosaur sent it 15:41:47 there's another one that I found a sec ago 15:42:11 ...oh, it only works in a certain font. nvm 15:42:31 👻 is good too ofc 15:44:11 PleasingFungus: heh, I copied down U+1F478 because I misread the B 15:44:15 the result was amusing 15:45:57 ! 15:46:08 I don't know which unicode glyphs we can actually use 15:46:15 god, emoji is so dumb 15:47:18 `👻` `👻` 15:47:38 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzglotza 15:47:46 Bloaxor: you're spookin' me out, man!! 15:48:01 spooky four-eyed ghosts 15:52:03 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:55:28 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:59:44 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:03:28 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:34 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:24 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12:07 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:12:20 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:12:40 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:12:52 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:15:19 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:16:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:07 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:18:49 -!- link_1081 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:09 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:28:05 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:28:22 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:28:44 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:34 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 16:30:07 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:30:07 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:34:09 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:34:28 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:39:08 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:29 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 16:40:22 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:48:37 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:53:38 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:13 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 16:55:02 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:07 -!- Pluie|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:59 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:57:18 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:04 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:58:28 http://i.imgur.com/LQc3kbw.gif considering new flying skull sprite 16:58:48 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:24 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:01:07 -!- Pluie|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:02:20 don't throw knifes into pumpkins around your tv 17:05:19 throwing knives, in general, is a somewhat questionable activity 17:09:03 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10:35 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:10:57 depends on how much you want to be shanked with a knife in response to a bad throw 17:15:09 Acidburn6 (L27 GrFi) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1941 failed. 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The pumpkin hits PleasingFungus!!!!!!!!! 17:29:37 ! 17:29:38 DANG 17:29:40 rip 17:29:57 5DANG 17:29:58 rip 17:30:11 _You finish putting on the +3 pair of the gloves of Ru's Condemnation {Str+3 Dex+3} 17:30:14 My own creation hates me. :( 17:30:27 youth rebellion 17:30:32 Now I know what it's like to be a parent 17:30:33 he must be rueful 17:31:35 tbh 17:31:40 Ru's condemnation is actually quite pleasant. 17:31:44 +3 condemnation of double-fisted statgloves are - yeah 17:31:55 dang. 17:33:10 PF: you'll be happy to know I'm also using Irradiate, and it seems pretty decent 17:33:18 the schools are awkward ofc 17:33:23 it's 17:33:25 !glasses 17:33:25 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 17:33:26 irradical 17:33:27 !!!! 17:33:29 ha 17:33:32 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:34:02 The pun bites you but does no damage. 17:34:04 * geekosaur tosses a radish 17:38:18 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:38:30 * PleasingFungus radiates approval. 17:42:01 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:42:26 death scarab (03s) | Spd: 30 | HD: 8 | HP: 21-36 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Dam: 2013(scarab) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(60), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 755 | Sz: little | Int: insect. 17:42:26 %??death scarab 17:43:04 oh yeah, that reminds me 17:43:11 irradiate really should have some kind of animation 17:43:23 a flash marking the affected area (adjacent tiles) or s/t 17:43:27 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/deathscarab.png that reminds me of silly floor scarabs 17:43:47 mm 17:44:08 -!- Krakhan has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:44:10 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 17:44:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:46:25 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:53 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1694-gfd4925d: A much deadlier death scarab tile (Bloax). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd4925d70419 17:48:15 Beware the Purple Dog Beetle 17:48:22 Of Death 17:48:59 death mite, duh. 17:49:39 ! 17:49:43 except for the having eyes bit 17:49:55 -!- dingledang has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:50:13 giant mites have eyes too 17:55:46 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:56:17 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:56:31 -!- Harkenn has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:24 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:59:04 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:01:09 -!- stanzglotza is now known as stanzill 18:03:03 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:03:46 I had a thought. 18:04:06 * PleasingFungus quivers in terror! 18:04:07 gammafunk: in your professional summoning opinion would Scarab Swarm be terribly awesome or awesomely terrible? 18:04:12 (as a player spell!) 18:04:39 great for undead types, not so good for players who don't want to get hemmed in by their own miasma 18:04:56 Obviously pairs with ring of flames 18:05:02 ! 18:05:06 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:30 As well as four disparate spell schools can, at any rate 18:05:47 (Is this going to be summoning / necromancy?) 18:05:52 Probably. 18:06:04 does miasma still cause rot 18:06:13 Status, not instant. 18:06:17 bollocks 18:06:22 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:06:29 so you get rot status then quaff curing then your rotted again and.. 18:06:48 Didn't say it was ideal 18:07:10 why is rot still a "feature" 18:07:23 cant remove item destruction all the way 18:07:24 -!- allbefore has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:41 Actually I was just about to joke on that, curses 18:07:45 crawl would be too fun then and the community would implode 18:08:06 Although it was more of a "and what else will be complained about" angle 18:08:20 does miasma at least always slow you now 18:08:21 imagine if you didn't get so hungry because resting didn't take forever and chunks weren't a thing 18:08:22 minmay: crawl has a community? 18:08:28 or is it still 50% chance of doing nothing 18:08:54 huh, didn't realize miasma slow was randomized 18:09:21 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:24 If you want to revive the last three recent arguments, the opposition was based in the commonness of both poison and slow making miasma need its own touch 18:09:42 I do not hold this opinion myself and will not argue for it 18:10:03 it should drain you!!!! 18:10:05 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:10:07 well, since miasma is resisted by both rPois and MR, it's basically the same as poison cloud and Slow, so that makes sense. 18:10:23 ...MR? 18:10:31 ...MR? 18:10:52 literally nothing in my last sentence was true 18:10:55 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:02 it was a sarcasm 18:11:05 1learn add lies 18:11:07 <|amethyst> rPois does resist the poisoning part, doesn't it? 18:11:15 to be fair poison isn't resisted by rPois anymore either 18:11:19 <|amethyst> ah 18:11:21 minmay: poison clouds aer! 18:11:28 *are 18:11:38 also, resisting other things was always random....... 18:11:45 no it wasn't... 18:11:47 unless you're thinking of something I've forgot 18:11:47 fr: rRandom 18:11:52 (rXom) 18:12:02 rRandom is from klownskin hides. 18:12:05 it used to be impossible for a venom weapon or naga or whatever to poison you if you had rPois 18:12:09 klown leather armour 18:12:10 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:12:15 minmay: when? 18:12:23 before...0.10 I think? 18:12:26 ahhh 18:12:28 somewhere around there 18:12:38 sorry, thought you were talking about more recent changes 18:12:39 <|amethyst> %git a981f6b 18:12:39 07bh02 {Keskitalo} * 0.10-a0-1439-ga981f6b: Simplified poisoning, rP is 90% effective 10(3 years ago, 8 files, 79+ 43-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a981f6b20fef 18:12:41 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 18:13:02 making vaults is tricky 18:13:04 <|amethyst> Was that really 3 years ago? 18:13:06 |amethyst: idk if miasma cares about rpois at all, but I'm pretty certainly it can poison you even if you have rpois 18:13:09 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:15 well the recent changes make the joke better since it is 3.3 times as noticeable as before 18:13:37 I never really know where to begin. but I've made a few crappy ones! 18:13:54 -!- moose has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:13:59 <|amethyst> I guess so; I had thought that happened after I became a dev but I guess it was when I was submitting patches 18:14:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:14:32 i,i git commit -m 'Increase the rate of confirmation bias.' 18:15:07 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:15:11 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 18:15:40 there was some talk about making rPois halve the amount that you got poisoned by, rather than giving a coinflip for immunity 18:16:08 -!- notmyleg has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:16:23 1learn add rPois it's not luck | you are going to get poisoned 33% of the time | plan for it 18:16:30 haha 18:16:32 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:16:41 (from a discussion in ##crawl a few weeks ago) 18:17:03 it helped put the latest rPois changes into a new perspective 18:17:55 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:18:33 I'm not a huge fan but I can kinda see why it changed. it just feels really counter intuitive that you can still get very hurt by it despite having rPois. but just means you have to modify your approach. or something 18:18:38 if you're going to get fireballed for 63+ damage 16% of the time 18:18:39 plan for it 18:19:00 and learning to deal with poison like that probably helps you in other situations. 18:19:18 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:39 well except poison is unique in the fact that it can be fixed immediately by chugging a potion 18:20:01 even if you happen to be poisoned for over 100 damage 18:20:40 Since when does anybody learn in Crawl? 18:21:13 I'm still learning about when or if it's appropriate to learn 18:21:30 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:21:52 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:21:54 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:22:29 -!- CacoS has quit [] 18:23:25 hm. if poison resistance was made deterministic, what would you do for curare? 18:23:57 (not sure if 'deterministic' is the right term...) 18:26:17 -!- moose has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:56 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:02 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:30:19 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:23 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:05 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:44 -!- Jho is now known as CrawlOffline|Jho 18:33:34 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:34:06 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:35:35 -!- CrawlOffline|Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:37:37 -!- link_1081 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:37:44 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:43:23 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:52 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:46:19 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:13 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 18:53:58 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:32 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:31 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:00:26 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 19:00:29 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 19:04:54 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1695-g8ede583: A Tomb:2 ambush subvault and two Tomb:3 subvaults. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 94+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ede583883a8 19:06:14 -!- link_108 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:06:45 Spidertomb? 19:07:11 Grunt: you forgot an o 19:07:14 wheals: ? 19:07:23 _dooroklohe surely 19:07:23 Doroklohe's is interesting, though 19:07:30 wheals: ahahaha 19:07:45 time to rename doorvault??? 19:07:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:19 -!- weezeface has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:31 anyway I am waiting for tomb_*_tendril_chambers..... 19:09:02 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:29 As was mentioned in the comment, there was a driving reason for that vault, but what would drive me to subvault f 19:09:36 ...Oh, of course. Right. 19:09:57 (The joke hits you! Ouch! That really hurt!) 19:11:22 I'm not sure how much further I can variate in openness compensation than mostly-empty spaces as the original subvaults mostly did, but 19:11:57 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12:38 oh I'm reminded of something tangentially related I was going to do 19:12:38 toomb of dooroklohe 19:13:11 Managling others works doesn't involve new names, either 19:13:12 -!- Redz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:13:22 -!- weezeface has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:13:25 ...aside from when they're unrecognizable, but. 19:13:56 -!- tsohg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:11 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:31 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:14:34 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:17:49 -!- Bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:18:21 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:37 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:21:12 Acidburn6 (L27 GrFi) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_index(mg.foe) || mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1681 failed. (Coc:7) 19:21:26 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 19:23:14 Acidburn6 (L27 GrFi) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_index(mg.foe) || mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1681 failed. (Coc:7) 19:24:46 -!- Pluie has quit [Quit: Wah] 19:24:51 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 19:25:09 Acidburn6 (L27 GrFi) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_index(mg.foe) || mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1681 failed. (Coc:7) 19:25:39 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:47 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 19:26:18 -!- link_108 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:26:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:32:40 death scarab (03s) | Spd: 30 | HD: 8 | HP: 21-36 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Dam: 2013(scarab) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(60), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 755 | Sz: little | Int: insect. 19:32:40 %??death_scarab 19:32:47 harpy (03H) | Spd: 25 | HD: 7 | HP: 28-48 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Dam: 19, 14 | fly | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison | XP: 621 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 19:32:47 %??harpy 19:34:32 Grunt: I'm having a hard time imagining it as not-annoying unless you're rmiasma, and haunt is kind of just a better spell than it would be 19:34:37 -!- link_108 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:47 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1696-g07ffd31: Use functions to specify the Tomb monster sets. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 65+ 55-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07ffd3151670 19:35:23 there's already a lot of summonings at L5-7, including spammy spells like shadow c, menag 19:35:33 fr: Summon Spam 19:35:59 er, double negatives 19:36:35 !lg * br=tomb 19:36:36 1437. shugdite the Minotaur Blade (L26 MiFi of Okawaru), blasted by a sphinx (divine providence) on Tomb:1 (tomb_1) on 2014-10-26 11:13:03, with 584424 points after 76526 turns and 5:37:53. 19:36:46 !lg * tomb x=vlong 19:36:47