00:01:25 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:02:01 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:02:37 <|amethyst> %bug 9075 00:02:37 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9075 00:02:57 <|amethyst> I guess orc high priests are badplayers 00:08:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1651-gcf82e13 (34) 00:09:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:11:22 -!- Wahaha has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:13:39 -!- Artelis_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:23:21 03Grunt02 07[tombfodder] * 0.16-a0-1604-g02048ff: Increase probably of death scarab bites having side effects. 10(89 seconds ago, 4 files, 30+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=02048ff92f6f 00:25:38 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:53 af_slow slow clouds slow bombs 00:26:21 * Grunt forces you to slow down. 00:26:22 rot clouds rot bombs, drain cloud af_drain drain bombs draining breath 00:26:57 I have to wonder if this is mostly a way to avoid death curses rather than necessarily put variety 00:27:05 oh well 00:27:41 At the very least when we come up with more effects we'll have a reasonable list of targets to give them to. 00:27:45 <|amethyst> bring back gloom 00:28:56 but gloom is beneficial...? 00:28:58 ??gloom 00:28:58 I don't have a page labeled gloom in my learndb. 00:29:03 tisk tisk 00:29:12 it is important to record history 00:30:16 <|amethyst> I guess it would be technically difficult to make gloom transparent to (some) monsters 00:30:19 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Client Quit] 00:30:51 i just brought back gloom in a different way 00:31:18 <|amethyst> roctavian: oh, I just remembered I haven't given you powers on CAO/CSZO yet 00:31:20 <|amethyst> roctavian: moment 00:32:04 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: *nonja vanish~!*] 00:32:34 !send roctavian absolute power 00:32:34 Sending absolute power to roctavian. 00:32:56 i anticipate that much of this will be tweaked 00:33:00 <|amethyst> Done, Roctavian is now a DGL admin. 00:33:01 <|amethyst> Done, roctavian is now a DGL admin. 00:33:06 thanks 00:33:10 -!- DrKe has quit [] 00:33:26 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde: Re-tuned brightness for many floor tiles 10(9 minutes ago, 115 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba51bde10e9e 00:33:36 !send roctavian doom and gloom 00:33:37 Sending doom and gloom to roctavian. 00:33:44 hoooo boy 00:33:54 <|amethyst> roctavian: oh, also, move yourself at https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:admin:devteam 00:34:08 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:36 hmmm, just the tiles of those recoloured-all-the-time pebble and rough floors? I hate to ask, but were the other colours checked for them? 00:36:09 and nerves, I guess 00:37:10 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:39:08 ? 00:39:38 in that brightness re-tuning commit just now 00:39:45 something definitely strange happened with pebble 00:40:00 hmm 00:40:02 ah, i must have missed it 00:40:10 %git 00:40:10 07roctavian02 * 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde: Re-tuned brightness for many floor tiles 10(15 minutes ago, 115 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba51bde10e9e 00:40:10 it wasn't like that when i tested it 00:40:13 ontoclasm: ^ 00:40:21 roctavian: it's -very- easy to fuck up the reoloring 00:40:24 time to adjust all the hues in dc-floor.txt? 00:40:33 huehuehuehuehuehuehue 00:40:33 i had to go through and adjust the hues by hand 00:40:37 hoooo 00:41:10 it recolors pixels that have hue=0 exactly 00:42:59 i see, that shouldn't be too bad to deal with 00:43:53 yeah, it's more annoying than problematic 00:43:57 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:51:42 -!- bcode is now known as zombcode 01:02:22 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:03:00 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:03:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:08:23 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:08:40 Grunt: are you merging spookytomb soon? 01:08:51 or do you have something else you want to do with it 01:09:08 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 01:09:33 clearly give anubis guards spirit wolf howl 01:10:06 levers that can be pulled to flood tomb with water 01:10:09 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:10:20 releasing the miasma dryad 01:10:37 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:10:44 just how ancient are these bears 01:11:09 !lg * kmap=~bear_cave 01:11:09 2. Gerad the Cleaver (L11 FoAK of Lugonu), slain by a polar bear on Lair:1 (gammafunk_lair_bear_cave) on 2014-05-30 15:30:20, with 5878 points after 13334 turns and 1:08:00. 01:11:15 only two in all this time 01:11:23 !lg * kmap=~bear_cave -2 01:11:23 1/2. trazz the Basher (L10 DDEE of Makhleb), mangled by a polar bear on Lair:1 (gammafunk_lair_bear_cave) on 2014-05-21 02:56:47, with 4734 points after 8933 turns and 0:48:28. 01:11:30 !lg * kmap=~caniform_friends s=ckiller 01:11:30 No games for * (kmap=~caniform_friends). 01:11:36 !lg * kmap=~caniform s=ckiller 01:11:36 13 games for * (kmap=~caniform): 6x a wolf, 4x a polar bear, 2x a hell hound, a hound 01:11:45 guess I should add more stuff to it 01:11:55 likewise :P 01:11:59 maybe I could rework it later when I don't have other silly things to do 01:13:10 %git 01:13:10 07roctavian02 * 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde: Re-tuned brightness for many floor tiles 10(48 minutes ago, 115 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba51bde10e9e 01:13:39 roctavian: recommend you use word-wrapping in whatever editor you use to make commits 01:13:55 70-75 char lines are good 01:14:12 ah, got it 01:15:00 heh, +0, -0 01:15:10 the unfairness of being a tiles dev! 01:15:40 otoh it's perfect if you strive for net 0 changes like elliptic 01:15:53 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:36 well, sadly i'm going to be adding lines to dc-floor 01:17:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:18:02 my problem is accidentally adding more color to these floors 01:18:56 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde (34) 01:23:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:25:55 ??sublimation_of_blood 01:25:55 sublimation of blood[1/1]: Converts HP into MP. Each MP point costs up to 4 (avg. 1 + 18/pow) HP. There is a 6/pow chance to stop after each MP point. Never drains more than 90% of current HP. 01:30:32 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 01:31:47 -!- mong has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 01:37:56 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:31 theTower: in my current game, I ran into a neat cracks-in-the-wall styled vault? layout? in orc 01:38:49 orc:4 specifically, though there weren't any power orcs or shops inside. 01:39:24 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:38 http://i.imgur.com/6e9sE4u.png 01:39:49 idk what vault or layout it is, but it was distinctive and neat 01:46:44 !vault gold_mine 01:46:45 Couldn't find gold_mine in the Crawl source tree 01:46:51 ugh what the hell did i name that vault 01:46:52 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde 01:48:23 !vault goldmine 01:48:23 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_themed.des;hb=HEAD#l667 01:48:26 off by a _ 01:48:38 ah, neat 01:50:50 lol i forgot what my old vault comments were like 01:50:53 minmay_goldmine 01:50:55 "Gold mine" 01:51:00 "Can come up in the dungeon and in Orc." 01:51:03 DEPTH: D:8-, Orc 01:51:36 it's like cs 101 projects 01:51:41 x += 1; // increase x by 1 01:52:03 I will address it in the sorely needed vault comment reform. 01:52:03 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:53:43 dang......... 01:54:10 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:54:36 that will, of course, come after the vault header reform 01:54:50 which will come after the branch:$-1 decor project 01:54:58 (so, never.) 01:55:03 but first: hive vault reform! 01:55:33 well, first is a halloween vault 01:55:47 since somebody wants that whole thing to be a thing 01:56:14 theTower: you should commit minmay_nethack for that 01:56:56 oh right it was min_nethack, close enough https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10110&p=140639#p140639 01:57:37 astonishing 01:57:48 then there was min_mini_mini_minitomb 01:58:42 "one of the first vaults minmay submitted" 01:59:27 can get away with a lot of things with the first vaults, but not an "autoexplore trap" 01:59:35 hivevault reform? 02:00:11 take hive end vault, trim and shrink it, put in regular floor spawns / lair spawns to dilute / constrast with the bees, put them into D / lair 02:00:15 hooray. 02:01:12 (next I will fashion dwarf vaults into tartarus decor, and then modernize farm_and_country, and then and then and then) 02:01:18 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:01:35 increase x by 1 does sound like a PleasingFungus comment! 02:01:35 trying to continue his monopoly on implemented_badforum i see 02:01:36 boom! 02:02:07 dang...... 02:02:59 that reminds me, is there any use for DESC for non-sprint vaults 02:03:13 zotdef vaults? 02:03:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 36.0a1/20141025030202]] 02:03:30 aw man, i made him quit again 02:03:47 he just quits @ random 02:03:51 in general 02:04:03 a top quitter 02:04:14 it's pathetic really 02:04:16 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:04:20 :O 02:04:22 woah 02:09:26 ??implemented_badforum [10] 02:09:26 I don't have a page labeled implemented_badforum[10] in my learndb. 02:09:34 ??implemented_badforum 02:09:35 implemented badforum[1/2]: 128. What about changing the disposition of the loot in the labyrinth so that, instead of having it all in a pile by the exit with the Minotaur sitting on top, it's scattered at random around the labyrinth? 02:11:15 ??impelemented badforum[2 02:11:15 impelemented badforum ~ implemented badforum[2/2]: 181. Personally, I wouldn't mind if immolation would destroy scrolls, for crawl it would be ok. 02:15:41 -!- DrKe has quit [] 02:19:20 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:19:26 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:19:41 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1652-gba51bde (34) 02:23:52 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 02:25:30 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:39:58 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:45:07 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:24 huh 02:47:44 i guess i'm missing a joke with those entries 02:48:29 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 02:57:43 ontoclasm: the joke is that they are badforum entries that were implemented in DCSS later 02:57:58 implemented_badforum[2] was unimplemented more recently though 02:59:28 [1] isn't true either last i checked 03:06:03 i can't figure out why %lum won't work right on the pebble tiles 03:06:03 mostly it isn't but the minivaults got a substantial improvement loot wise quite recently 03:06:12 and by quite recently I mean .14 or so 03:06:25 -!- _triplesword has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:00 roctavian: are you combining it with the hue-changing thing 03:08:06 if so try switching their order 03:08:27 i forget if you have to specify the original or current hue 03:08:47 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:09:35 like, the order of the lines, or the order within the line 03:09:42 i've got all the hues worked out 03:10:06 and on floor_nerve the different luminosities are working 03:10:11 -!- blazinghand_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:11:27 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [] 03:13:14 i mean, if you're doing %hue then %lum, try the other way round 03:14:55 ManMan (L27 NaWz) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 527 failed. (Zig:15) 03:15:52 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:16:55 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1653-gc82da73: Cull idempotent misc items from shopping lists (#8873) 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c82da73b0d03 03:17:50 ManMan (L27 NaWz) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 527 failed. (Zig:15) 03:19:58 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:21:31 ManMan (L27 NaWz) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 527 failed. (Zig:15) 03:25:44 ontoclasm: still doesn't work. i have it in a variety of configurations across several colors, and it just isn't doing anything? 03:31:25 ManMan (L27 NaWz) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 527 failed. (Zig:15) 03:32:26 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:33:25 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:35:54 -!- raikaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:38:51 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:01 ManMan (L27 NaWz) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 527 failed. (Zig:15) 03:42:05 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:44:08 -!- blazinghand_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:46:53 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 03:47:29 Crash on mummy ziggurat floor 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9082 by ManMan 03:52:01 roctavian: hm, dunno 03:52:12 i'll try and take a look tomorrow 03:52:19 i decided to push what i got so far 03:52:32 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-1654-ge9d5c5e: dc-floor.txt mostly caught up to new floor tiles. 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 241+ 48-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9d5c5e0fa1c 03:52:35 since at least the hues are all fixed 03:54:07 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:46 -!- roctavian has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:59:18 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:04:40 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:06:20 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:23:23 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:52 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: 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Ash is "keeping your vision clear" 08:32:35 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 08:34:58 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:36:38 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:38:41 -!- Smello has quit [Quit: Bye!] 08:39:52 -!- CacoS has quit [*.net *.split] 08:39:53 -!- nrook has quit [*.net *.split] 08:39:53 -!- ByronJohnson has quit [*.net *.split] 08:39:53 -!- djanatyn has quit [*.net *.split] 08:39:54 -!- Jafet has quit [*.net *.split] 08:39:55 -!- AGinsberg has quit [*.net *.split] 08:41:16 -!- eeeeeta has quit [] 08:49:47 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:54:33 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:59:17 -!- Rewans has quit [Client Quit] 09:02:00 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:05:08 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 243 seconds] 09:05:37 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:07:41 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:07:58 -!- eeeeeta has quit [Changing host] 09:08:04 -!- Unano has quit [Changing host] 09:08:38 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:12:59 -!- asdff has quit [Client Quit] 09:16:21 !tell gammafunk Maybe later today; I want to make sure anyone who wants to put things through their paces first (myself included) has an adequate chance to test first. 09:16:21 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:17:08 !tell gammafunk plus I have a very minor tiles visual thing I want to check the viability of 09:17:08 Grunt: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:17:20 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:19:48 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:03 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:34 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:14 !send gammafunk visual things 09:37:15 Sending visual things to gammafunk. 09:38:12 -!- rphillips has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:38:49 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:39:03 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:47:29 Was there a way to tell crawl that if a vault appears another shouldn't? I'm trying to make a vault with variants and don't want to mees up with LUA. 09:48:41 -!- Isvaffell has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:51:21 marbit: uniq_ 09:51:23 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:51:36 ...where is specific to your vaults :) 09:51:57 Any set of vaults with the same uniq_ tag can only have one generate per game. 09:53:54 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:54:22 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:54:24 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:56:15 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:58:08 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:24 -!- Unano has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:59:27 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:01:23 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:01:26 -!- bhaak_ is now known as bhaak 10:02:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:09 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:04:08 -!- radinms_ has quit [] 10:06:35 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07:01 .crushed 10:07:01 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:07:02 61. BinLaden the Executioner (L22 FoFi of Makhleb), blasted by an octopode crusher (iron shot) on Depths:2 on 2014-10-24 19:55:35, with 324894 points after 46363 turns and 3:03:44. 10:07:13 ...I finally got BinLaden 10:07:19 I'm a hero 10:07:28 .gmap 10:07:35 66. lallenlowe the Thrower (L13 MiBe of Trog), mangled by a catoblepas on Lair:3 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-10-20 17:02:53, with 26735 points after 19144 turns and 1:11:00. 10:09:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:10:55 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:14:06 !gamesby 10:14:07 PleasingFungus has played 365 games, between 2013-11-22 22:41:11 and 2014-10-24 21:53:25, won 32 (8.8%), high score 23422719, total score 205546904, total turns 6392598, play-time/day 1:44:06, total time 24d+8:43:12. 10:14:10 oops 10:14:13 !gamesby BinLaden 10:14:15 BinLaden has played 70 games, between 2014-10-13 14:53:01 and 2014-10-25 16:50:31, won 0, high score 599387, total score 1300358, total turns 585032, play-time/day 3:12:35, total time 1d+17:43:37. 10:14:20 terror never wins....... 10:14:55 !crashlog manman 10:14:56 6. ManMan, XL27 NaWz, T:191412 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ManMan/crash-ManMan-20141026-083959.txt 10:14:59 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:01 -!- marbit has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:15:48 !crashlog manman -2 10:15:49 5. ManMan, XL27 NaWz, T:191410 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/ManMan/crash-ManMan-20141026-083123.txt 10:16:37 <|amethyst> ManMan managed to tornado a greater mummy on top of himself 10:16:47 <|amethyst> err 10:16:51 <|amethyst> a guardian mummy rather 10:16:53 I strongly suspect that it was there when he entered the level 10:16:55 megazig 10:16:59 <|amethyst> ahh 10:17:24 there have been a bunch of other bugs related to megazigs spawning monsters on top of the player's entry point 10:17:45 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:17:50 yeah, does the megazig lua check that it's not making a monster on the entrance arch? 10:18:18 <|amethyst> hm... player at (30, 35) and so are the stone_stairs_up_i 10:20:39 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:24:25 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:35:20 -!- nrook_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 10:35:40 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:58 visual trick confirmed 10:36:15 03Grunt02 07[tombfodder] * 0.16-a0-1605-g5fb4901: Make anubis guards' quarterstaves visually distinctive in tiles. 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 18+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5fb490159c49 10:41:52 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:48:50 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:17 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:44 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 10:53:35 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:53:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:57:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:05:18 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:08:36 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:08:55 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:10:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:20 -!- siepu_ is now known as siepu 11:17:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:17:45 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:23 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:20:45 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:23:45 -!- Isabel has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:17 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:25:04 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:25:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:25:39 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:26:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:28:03 -!- raikaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:34:33 Grunt: you...polluted tomb....with lots of leather armour and robes. The gods will be angry 11:35:09 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:36:08 -!- nrook has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:46 !send gammafunk octopode polluters 11:36:47 Sending octopode polluters to gammafunk. 11:39:32 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:12 tombfodder sounds like a good death metal band name 11:41:11 coffincloggers 11:41:26 gravestuffing 11:41:41 corpsepudding 11:42:01 why would you put pudding in a corpse 11:42:19 T�mbf�dder 11:42:22 for the presentation value 11:45:12 pudding farming imo 11:45:40 Grunt: black pudding...is that what those were called in nethack? 11:47:02 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:15 gammafunk: yes 11:48:46 !send gammafunk a thoroughly corroded -3 knife named Puddingbane 11:48:46 Sending a thoroughly corroded -3 knife named Puddingbane to gammafunk. 11:49:09 that was a level of nethackness that I never made it to 11:49:40 killing famine 100 times to get a top 5 score on a server was the most nethacked I ever got 11:51:27 I refused to farm NetHack. I always thought of it as missing the point. 11:52:26 !send gammafunk a thoroughly rusty thoroughly corroded tin opener named Vladsbane 11:52:27 Sending a thoroughly rusty thoroughly corroded tin opener named Vladsbane to gammafunk. 11:54:39 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:55:09 -!- Harkenn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:19 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:57:42 jorybanes have to be a little stronger, probably 11:58:26 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:52 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:06:14 -!- Grangar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:15:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:18 @The_monster@ laughs, "And you think you're capable of finding the ORB. I had it, you know. Then I gave it away so I could steal it AGAIN." 12:16:26 this is kind of an odd line for a Fighting ghost 12:16:45 I guess Stealth already has plenty 12:17:07 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1656-g56257b6 (34) 12:18:56 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:23:24 Two vaults 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9084 by Marbit 12:23:24 crash after selecting high elf wanderer 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9083 by felix747 12:23:29 ^ I sent this. Discussion & suggestions are welcomed. 12:25:26 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:26:28 PleasingFungus: huh, i thought that was a generic one 12:26:57 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:59 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:01 -!- theTower_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:09 haha my qw is wearing 12:27:11 Marbit: crawl mechanics mean you won't have many people actually using the qstaff. not enough of a vaultsmaster to comment otherwise 12:27:16 p - the +9 plate armour of the Hanged Man (worn) {+Inv rPois rF+ Int+4} 12:27:19 ! 12:27:24 ! 12:27:27 wheals: ya maybe it should be generic. it's a funny line 12:27:41 nrook: your mut broke qw btw 12:27:45 Yes, I know. I don't really expect people to use the staff. 12:27:46 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:27:47 59454 ||| ZAPPING TELEPORTATION. 12:27:47 Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit) 12:27:47 You don't have enough magic at the moment. 12:27:47 Teleport failed despite returning true. 12:28:10 oh damn 12:28:29 -!- Alarkh_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:28:39 hmm is that theoretically a bug in my commit that I should have fixed? qw is part of crawl in a sense, right? because the stress test runs it? 12:29:06 if you really want to...! 12:29:13 Marbit: did you test this vault? 12:29:23 I mean I don't want to 12:29:28 but it is good to know for future contributions 12:29:29 KFEAT: C = t 12:29:30 but C is never used 12:29:41 not that you'd know this from testing, but 12:29:52 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29:53 fr: vault linter 12:30:02 fr: crawl code linter 12:30:09 also the ), not sure what that is 12:30:14 Yes, I tested both in wiz mode and they both seemed to work. Anyway, there is nothing fancy about them. 12:30:25 oh the stairs right 12:30:30 yeah I always forget those stone stairs 12:30:31 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:39 Marbit: well the C = t line can be removed 12:30:41 -!- cs_0x6373 has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:30:42 since it does nothing 12:31:23 it doesnt sound like thats a crawl bug as much as it is a qw bug 12:31:35 damm... I missed that. Thanks 12:31:37 Marbit: generally try to not define _ or other default glyph types to something else unless you need to 12:31:48 ah 12:31:54 again my association of _ with altars 12:32:08 but anyhow for that 12:32:11 I'd use the item list 12:32:29 e.g. it doesn't need KITEM 12:32:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:56 yeah, it is hard for me to remember which letters or symbols are already in use. 12:33:26 yeah, it does help us if you can do that for vault-reading in general; of course it's fine to use KITEM if you specificially have a use for it 12:33:26 but in that case you don't 12:33:54 hrm, although 12:33:58 I hope FTILE works with ordinary items 12:33:59 let me test this actually 12:34:36 _ is used for stuff a lot in vaults really 12:34:46 floor-like things usually 12:35:00 oks, I guess % for quarterstaff. Any suggestion of symbols for floor tiles? 12:35:00 yeah it is, I keep associating it with altars but it isn't; however in the case of this vault I think it should use ITEM 12:35:05 and it should be e.g. d 12:35:11 let me test the floor tile thing actually 12:35:15 % is bad since it means something in vault syntax 12:35:22 Marbit: also, does that have to be a human? 12:35:22 and d is just ITEM: 12:35:51 we like to avoid using species monsters and use more interesting things if we can 12:36:09 I understand it's a reference, but it'd be nice if you could use some more interesting monster 12:36:25 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:36:36 somebody rate my cool idea: 12:36:41 well... I made it in refference to the fight of robin hood v little john... I guess little john can change : ) 12:37:08 webconsole. it's a crawl console window in a webview, identical to console in almost all respects except that it has the little webtiles chat window 12:37:15 Suggestions for the monster? 12:37:29 little john could be a big humanoid 12:37:40 why not just use tile_display_mode = glyphs 12:37:49 because webtiles is insanely slow 12:38:04 the goal here would be to have a view with comparable latency to regular console 12:38:05 I'll check humanoids that can wield quarterstaffs. 12:38:10 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:11 if I can't achieve that it isn't worth doing ofc 12:38:31 d:4-8, yeah that only suggests orc or maybe orc warrior 12:38:40 Sigmund Appearing on Vaults:1 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9085 by agenthree 12:38:40 ogre? 12:38:40 a gnoll 12:39:14 nice 12:39:16 I feel like little john would make a good ogre, since he's so big 12:39:48 ogre (07O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 19-38 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Dam: 17 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 119 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 12:39:48 %??ogre 12:39:49 hill giant (04C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 46-73 | AC/EV: 3/4 | Dam: 30 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(40), 12drown | XP: 655 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 12:39:49 %??hill giant 12:40:03 human (15p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 22-44 | AC/EV: 3/13 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 194 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:40:03 %??human 12:40:07 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:19 yeah the damage difference won't be terribly large, but it's certainly significant 12:40:22 gnoll (08g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 8-18 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 9 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(10) | XP: 14 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:40:22 %??gnoll 12:40:24 ogre it is 12:41:25 I was just thinking that I personally don't play webtiles due to the latency, and I know of several other players who have the same opinion 12:41:45 the latency isn't that bad 12:42:09 Marbit: you need to name these vaults. e.g. marbit_bridge_fight 12:42:10 until you've been playing for a bunch of minutes and/or been seeing a lot of animations 12:42:17 at which point it starts getting really bad 12:42:36 or you should really, since we generally try to give vault author attribution that way 12:42:44 I'll do it right now, thanks! 12:42:47 and it's also nice when you're tracking what your vaults do 12:43:22 I mean webtiles has memory leak issues, but I think it's also the case that it's always going to have more latency than console, since it's presenting more information and has more client-side logic than console 12:43:46 Marbit: yeah ITEM: quarterstaff works fine with ftile, so you can then replace all instances of _ with d 12:44:50 it has a bit of extra latency, but it's mostly the performance leaks that kill it 12:44:50 nrook: i feel like the latency of webtiles has been disputed before 12:44:52 Marbit: also use } instead of ) I think 12:45:01 i feel it's slower, and certainly if you look at how long people take to win it's slower 12:45:08 -!- theTower_ is now known as theTower 12:45:11 elliptic ran some tests at some point and thought it wasn't really much slower, though 12:45:31 ok, so it would be "ITEM: d = quarterstaff" 12:45:31 ? 12:45:52 Marbit: yes and change those _ to d both on the map and in your FTILE 12:45:55 webtiles logic performance isn't much slower 12:45:58 Marbit: and you can use } instead of ) 12:46:17 Looking for opinions about two inconsistent things: at 3* "Ashenzari keeps your vision clear", but it doesn't affect blurry vision. Also, in pig form you can outrun hogs; Kirke will make this odd state of affairs happen consistently. 12:46:18 since it's only placing one stair, and } is "set 1 stone downstairs" 12:46:22 but getting a 0.1s+ delay on every screen refresh is a lot of time 12:46:34 Lasty: i don't think the outrunning thing is a big deal / would be tough to fix 12:46:42 oks, any reason for using the first stair instead of the second? 12:46:46 this is a consistent problem with pc movement rates vs. monster speeds 12:46:50 not really: just make hogs faster 12:46:55 hog (13h) | Spd: 13 | HD: 6 | HP: 22-44 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 14 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 194 | Sz: small | Int: animal. 12:46:55 %??hog 12:47:00 compare player nagas to monster nagas, player centaurs to monster centaurs, etc. 12:47:00 Oh, ah 12:47:03 nm 12:47:06 Marbit: I don't think there's any technical reason, but it's confusing to read since it implies multiple stairs 12:47:10 monster centaurs are silly 12:47:21 in the vault, I mean 12:47:26 the ashenzari thing seems sensible, just change vision to mind 12:47:27 oks, noted 12:47:47 the only reason to use sets 2 and 3 if you're e.g. placing more than one downstairs 12:47:47 but it also gives see invis 12:49:16 should just merge the shop and monster incarnations with a shuffle 12:49:37 Marbit: oh, that permanent rock wall should not bethat 12:49:41 ...is that permaglass instead of 12:49:43 yeah 12:49:44 yes, bad 12:50:05 ? 12:50:15 use 'n' and not 'o' 12:50:17 the question for me is, do we keep the flavor of clear vision and suppress blurry vision or do we change the message to be less deceptive? 12:50:29 yeah permarock only when truly necessary 12:50:32 stone is very sufficient 12:50:33 m is glass rock, n is glass stone, o is glass permarock 12:50:54 I don't really like the monster being like that to be honest 12:51:21 theTower would probably agree that it's kind of bad to expose the monster and then put it behind a runed door 12:51:28 use a KMONS and then a KITEM 12:51:33 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:42 so there's an obvious incentive to killing it 12:51:49 greed is good! for the slaughter of fools 12:51:59 yeah, and would you abree the use of crystal like that all in the vault is bad? 12:52:15 eh 12:52:16 oh it's crystal sorry 12:52:17 not clear 12:52:19 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 12:52:27 yeah crystal is ok, nm 12:52:34 Greed is good for killing fools, goodwill is good for emptying their pockets beforehand. 12:52:39 crystal != clear folks, never forget 12:52:50 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:52:54 I hope that's 12:52:55 !glasses 12:52:56 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 12:52:59 crystal clear to you 12:53:08 but what if it's clear crystal 12:53:59 so, the consensus about displaying the big monster? yay or nay? 12:54:02 floortile definitions can go on every relevant glyph with no real issue, last time I used them much 12:54:29 I would reposition the glass to make the monster visible regardless of entering the path with the runed door or not 12:54:46 as nicely splitting as it makes it's kinda silly otherwise 12:55:10 Marbit: yeah, it comes down to what you want the player to do. See loot vs.threat and decide whether it's worth it, or just open the magic door without any knowledge 12:55:17 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:55:26 if you go with the former,do what theTower says so that it's clear to the player that they have the information 12:55:29 would you like advice on a shuffle to combine those two vaults instead of needing two seperate vaults 12:55:42 oh yeah that would be nice as well 12:56:33 yeah, I though about combining both vaults but I think I'll need a bit of lua for that. 12:57:00 no need 12:57:03 Marbit: if you want just the monster and no loot, I'd suggest no clear wall, but if you like the clear wall, there should probably be loot there 12:57:54 perhaps I should demonstrate what I think you should do with an example so you can see what I mean? 12:58:26 If you do so I'd be really thankful 12:59:17 replace the . above and left of the _ with D and E, SHUFFLE: DE_ / =8o 12:59:21 i think 12:59:39 SHUFFLE: DE_ / DE_ / =8o, you mean 12:59:52 -!- Deviljho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:00:04 oh yeah missed the weight 13:00:17 and SUBST: DE = . of course 13:00:35