00:00:44 -!- Lysalla has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:01:13 are there any centuryplayers that arent greaterplayers 00:01:19 !won yermak 00:01:19 yermak has won 120 times in 1839 games (6.53%): 10xSpAs 6xSpBe 4xSpWr 3xSpAK 3xSpCK 3xSpEn 3xSpHe 3xSpSt 2xFeAE 2xFeCK 2xFoAs 2xFoGl 2xSpAE 2xSpAr 2xSpDK 2xSpFi 2xSpIE 2xSpMo 2xSpNe 2xSpPr 2xSpSu 2xSpVM 2xSpWn 1xCeFE 1xCeVM 1xCeWn 1xDDAs 1xDDEE 1xDEAs 1xDgAM 1xDgFi 1xFeAK 1xFeAr 1xFeBe 1xFeCj 1xFeDK 1xFeFi 1xFeWr 1xFeWz 1xFoAE 1xFoDK 1xFoMo 1xGhAr 1xGhCK 1xGhCj 1xGhFi 1xGhHu 1xGhNe 1xGrHu 1xHOAE 1... 00:01:30 simmarine: yeah actually 00:01:39 I wrote a command for that essentially, one sec 00:01:55 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:02:28 .echo $(filter $(fn (n) $(= $(length $(filter $(fn (x) (= $n $x)) $(nick-aliases greatplayers))) 0)) $(nick-alias centuryplayers)) 00:02:30 .echo $(filter $(fn (n) $(= $(length $(filter $(fn (x) (= $n $x)) $(nick-aliases greatplayers))) 0)) $(nick-alias centuryplayers)) 00:02:31 $(nick-alias centuryplayers) 00:02:37 .echo $(filter $(fn (n) $(= $(length $(filter $(fn (x) (= $n $x)) $(nick-aliases greatplayers))) 0)) $(nick-aliases centuryplayers)) 00:02:38 hyperelliptic mrplanck sar yermak 00:02:45 simmarine: those are the ones 00:02:56 (and one is not really because alts) 00:03:06 !greaterplayer sar 00:03:11 sar is a greaterplayer! 00:03:17 !greatplayer sar 00:03:22 Unwon species for sar: Octopode 00:03:50 well sar actually is, since those were added after he become one, I bet 00:04:01 -!- Basil___ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:04:14 !lg sar won 1 00:04:14 1/107. Sar the Wrestler (L26 TrCK of Xom), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2012-10-25 19:20:34, with 1419666 points after 95548 turns and 10:18:21. 00:04:25 !lg * op won 1 00:04:26 1/441. hyperbolic the Slayer (L27 OPBe of Trog), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-04-07 21:46:49, with 1580844 points after 76245 turns and 5:06:43. 00:04:31 oh 00:04:37 sar actually isn't a greaterplayer, huh 00:04:40 what were we betting? 00:05:00 well since I lost, I declare we were betting nothing 00:05:02 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:08 -!- LexAckson has quit [Client Quit] 00:05:09 a pox on these cheating devs 00:05:37 !help !nick 00:05:37 !nick: !nick: Maps a nick to name(s) used on the public servers. Usage: !nick ...; !nick -rm ; !nick -rm 00:06:15 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:06:19 !nick greaterplayers 00:06:19 Mapping greaterplayers => 78291 hyperbolic elliptic mikee stabwound xyblor marvinpa pseudonut nyaakitty reid jeanjacques ionfrigate itsmu valrus magistern pivotal clouded pac bart absolutego ophanim crate vizer bmfx eeviac elynae ebarrett simm wahaha toastyp danharaj johnnyzero hilariousdeathartist kryft walkerboh basil dck surr ackack medar sgrunt minmay cheibrodos araganzar morganleah n1000 drke... 00:06:34 er 00:06:51 ??!nick[3 00:06:51 !nick[3/3]: https://loom.shalott.org/nickmap.txt 00:07:08 -!- WalkerBoh is now known as duvessa 00:07:20 -!- duvessa is now known as WalkerBoh 00:07:48 I guess it would be nice if !greaterplayer could check greatplayer status 00:08:24 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:31 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1625-g2751495 (34) 00:09:24 grunt, do you think that with ushabti and anubis guards, tomb could lose its unique noise environment? 00:14:38 v0v 00:15:08 I don't really know how that impacts anything either way, if at all. 00:16:13 noises being louder, or the loud monsters in it? 00:16:46 The former, mostly. 00:17:38 it makes any melee you do really cause a ruckus 00:18:43 !shatter Grunt 00:18:43 gammafunk gestures wildly while chanting. The dungeon rumbles around gammafunk! Grunt shudders from the earth-shattering force. 00:18:51 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1625-g2751495 (34) 00:19:19 !glaciate gammafunk 00:19:19 Grunt gestures. Grunt conjures a mighty blast of ice! The great icy blast engulfs gammafunk! 00:30:35 -!- _Senjai is now known as Senjai 00:30:51 -!- Senjai has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:32:29 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:37:55 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 00:47:22 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1625-g2751495 00:56:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:57:44 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:07:01 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:07:48 grunt pointed me to mini_monsters.des section <<7>> to start soaking in Vault-Makin' 01:07:52 I don't see @ 01:08:02 in those vaults. when is @ required? 01:09:20 @s are, strictly speaking, not required 01:10:17 @s are for explicit entry points, and if a vault is bordered or otherwise internall traversible then it's fine 01:11:41 when you say bordered, what precisely do you mean? bordered with empty spaces? 01:11:47 yes 01:11:52 erm. 01:12:02 floor is not empty space for a vault, also strictly speaking 01:12:10 yeah bordered by floor 01:12:20 er, yea, that's what I mean. bordered with floor 01:12:36 johnstein: @ is necessary when a vault has a notion of "entrances", but some vaults don't have that 01:12:37 so if it's bordered with rock walls, then you need an entry point, @, or redesign the vault 01:12:50 ah ok 01:13:06 johnstein: some vaults are only entered through stairs, as well 01:13:13 but those are much less common, of course 01:13:22 I just didn't know if I have to worry about the dungeon builder being able to properly place the vault so it's accessible. 01:13:34 sounds like if I border it with floor it will be ok 01:13:53 generally you will, yes but if your vault is an "open space", either just obviously or more specifically because it's fully encased in floor tiles 01:13:56 then you don't need @ 01:14:00 that is vaguely limiting but it is too late for me to describe how otherwise 01:14:15 anyway if you're really worried about this it's not that hard to test 01:14:52 johnstein: but don't border your vault with floor if it works best having one or more entrances; use @ in that case 01:15:10 ok 01:15:12 but there are weird issues like how nice your vault looks, where sometimes you'd like it surrounded in floor 01:15:23 like those nem altar vaults you see that are the card suites 01:15:44 (mind you, I have a personal preference for screwing around with those notions) 01:17:26 nabalzbhf (L27 MuSu) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1906 failed. (Zig:3) 01:17:44 !lg . 01:17:44 2335. gammafunk the Caller (L1 HESu), quit the game on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_stonehenge_12_columns) on 2014-10-25 06:17:34, with 2 points after 90 turns and 0:01:06. 01:17:54 wielded an anti-magic dagger, which upset me 01:20:56 somebody's private vault submission I wish I kept had a vaguely good show of what I mean, reconstructing the concept from memory: http://pastebin.com/ajB266Xs 01:21:40 it's... 01:22:11 maybe I should just reccomend to all would-be vault designers to use a vault examination macro with bizzare vaults and layouts >_> 01:22:15 yeah doesn't + on the vault edge implicitely mean @ 01:22:22 oh, right, there's also that 01:22:52 (sometimes I've just tiredly generated levels examining how vaults place) 01:32:52 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33:22 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37:28 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:42:44 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:43:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:48:06 -!- causative has quit [Quit: may the truth move you] 01:49:49 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:01:06 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:14:16 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:20 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:18:45 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:55 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1625-g2751495 (34) 02:20:14 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:26:48 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:28:18 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 02:31:03 03roctavian02 07* 0.16-a0-1626-g3dac1c6: Lighten draconian base tiles slightly. 10(7 minutes ago, 8 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3dac1c650231 02:31:33 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:34:44 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:37:27 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:40:23 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:53:37 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:57:38 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:04 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:05:34 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 03:11:22 -!- Artelis_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:13:33 -!- markgo` has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:15:19 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:15:46 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:22:14 -!- coledot has quit [Quit: coledot] 03:25:10 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 03:26:11 -!- Wah has quit [Quit: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT'S BACON!] 03:27:02 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:28:11 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:37:18 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:43:13 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: bye!] 03:54:17 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:13 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00:19 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:04:00 !tell gammfunk latest webtiles-changes updated on DBRO. NOW WITH MINIFIED AND CACHED GOODNESS. definitely faster when using minification. 04:04:00 Sorry johnstein, I don't know who gammfunk is. 04:04:10 !tell gammafunk latest webtiles-changes updated on DBRO. NOW WITH MINIFIED AND CACHED GOODNESS. definitely faster when using minification. 04:04:10 johnstein: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 04:04:18 !tell edlothiol latest webtiles-changes updated on DBRO. NOW WITH MINIFIED AND CACHED GOODNESS. definitely faster when using minification. 04:04:19 johnstein: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 04:12:52 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:15:48 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:16:10 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:20:02 -!- _159 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:33:11 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 04:41:14 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:41:33 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: "It was one dev, naked in a room with a carton of cigarettes, a thermos full of coffee and bourbon, and all his summoned angels."] 04:44:40 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:18 -!- squimmy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:55:39 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:00:32 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:50 -!- ldf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:17:58 -!- Senjai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:18:14 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:19 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 05:29:28 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:04 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:34:09 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:38:22 -!- inertia_ has left ##crawl-dev 05:40:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:56:27 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:58:52 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04:48 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 06:06:27 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:07:45 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:50 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:08:41 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:11:09 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:22:42 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:07 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:40:31 Inconsistent spell types of giants -- fire giants have demonic spells 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9079 by nagdon 06:46:01 -!- Ahrin_ is now known as Ahrin 06:46:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 06:50:45 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:51:07 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:51:38 -!- hurdos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:02:49 -!- NekoRex has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:03:21 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:45 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:47 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:59 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:09:39 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Client Quit] 07:12:47 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:23:50 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:56 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 07:27:38 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:42 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 07:43:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47:58 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:56:22 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:56:37 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:27 -!- Marbit has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:57:57 -!- Marbit has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:45 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:56 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:15 How is the damage from zap-data.h calculated? 08:06:53 MUT_NO_LOVE angers conjured pseudomonsters 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9080 by nagdon 08:08:00 Where is the documention for the new mon-spll.h stuff? 08:08:35 i'm getting kind of stumped at how the hell the power divisor is calculated 08:09:20 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10:38 -!- siepu_ is now known as siepu 08:16:53 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:19:50 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:22:19 <|amethyst> Bloax: there are two different ways it is specified: a dicedef_calculator or a calcdice_calculator 08:23:05 Well it seems to be Ad(B/A+Power/((D*A)/C)) for something like bolt of fire. 08:23:29 <|amethyst> Bloax: for a dicedef_calculator, take ZAP_THROW_FLAME as an example: <2, 4, 1, 10> means it does 2 d (4 + pow*1/10) 08:24:00 and calcdice just happens to be what i posted doesn't it 08:24:02 <|amethyst> Bloax: for a calcdice_calculator, it's more like 2 d (4 + pow*1/10)/2 08:24:36 <|amethyst> Bloax: with calcdice, the 4 + pow*1/10 is the maximum damage rather than the damage per die 08:25:04 <|amethyst> yeah 08:25:55 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:26:44 <|amethyst> it's not exactly what you or I wrote because it randomly increases the die size if the number of dice doesn't divide evenly (so could in fact give slightly more than the "max") 08:26:57 <|amethyst> (in calc_dice in random.cc) 08:27:00 the only question is what spells uses what 08:27:12 <|amethyst> Bloax: it says in zap-data.h 08:27:17 <|amethyst> Bloax: new dicedef_calculator<2, 4, 1, 10>, 08:27:23 <|amethyst> but Bolt of Fire has 08:27:26 <|amethyst> new calcdice_calculator<6, 18, 2, 3>, 08:27:29 o i c 08:37:50 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 08:38:55 -!- Mazed has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:49:17 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:49:21 the reason for this question being that i decided to check out making magic dart 2dx instead of 1dx: http://anydice.com/program/49e4 http://anydice.com/program/49e3 08:50:59 -!- NekoRex has quit [Client Quit] 08:56:38 -!- Mandragora is now known as Guest62230 08:58:26 -!- Guest62230 has quit [Client Quit] 09:02:25 -!- raikaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:02:54 -!- tovical has quit [Client Quit] 09:10:03 -!- Mandygora has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:18:06 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:19:10 -!- Taraiph has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:19 will we ever see a skeleton race? 09:31:00 mummies are skeletons 09:31:05 except with bandages 09:33:57 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:35 Taraiph: yes, if, we could figure out characteristics that would sufficiently distinguish it from existing races and be fun to play 09:39:01 (What if we split monstorous demonspawn off into 'demon' and then you grow up from being an imp to a baller?) 09:43:38 My inclination is to reject 9030 09:43:43 %mantis 9030 09:43:46 durr 09:44:09 !bug 9030 09:44:09 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9030 09:44:35 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:08 rSilence seems quite strong 09:47:13 it doesn't really fit with the rest of the flavor either - demons can cast when silenced because they cast via gesturing, not because of tongues 09:47:40 -!- radinms has quit [] 09:50:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:56:12 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:01:47 doy: it seems gamebreaking 10:02:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:26 not sure about gamebreaking, since it doesn't block player silence 10:03:39 but that is also a weird thing 10:04:01 i guess it'd also encourage luring silent spectres around everywhere 10:04:06 which is dumb 10:07:42 well you can't lure them anywhere since they don't follow you 10:07:49 up/downstairs that is 10:10:11 !send Bloax death scarabs 10:10:12 Sending death scarabs to Bloax. 10:24:29 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:01 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:29:53 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:30:08 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:19 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:41:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:42:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:43:52 -!- mineral has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:44:10 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:43 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:45:24 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:55:46 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:46 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:01:49 mplayer 11:02:42 mplayer? 11:02:58 Lasty: Also, did you see the sac love bug on mantis? 11:05:12 not yet -- checking now 11:05:28 Oh, right 11:05:32 I know why that's happening 11:05:43 Oh, and so does the poster 11:05:52 -!- ParallaxScroll has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:06:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:43 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:07:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-1627-g3188242: Make fire giant spells _WIZARD instead of _DEMONIC (#9079) 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 9+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3188242f33db 11:08:49 I'm going to guess there are other bugs from monsters have unexpected MST_s 11:09:23 argh, now that I think about it 11:09:34 coming up with a good idea for a spoopy skeleton is hard 11:10:01 first I thought "healed by Negative and damaged by "Positive", but that's WAY overpowered 11:11:08 and now I'm thinking "no healing at ALL", but you can regenerate health if you can pick your bones off the floor if you butcher something and take their skeleton. Human-sized only, however. 11:11:36 Taraiph: I sort of feel there are too many undead species already. 11:11:53 yes but we don't have skeletons. 11:12:00 And? 11:12:04 Do we need skeletons? 11:12:10 and skeletons are spooky. 11:12:14 Do skeletons bring something innovative and new to the table? 11:12:19 is this for the halloween thing? 11:12:20 they can. 11:13:35 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:13:39 Also the skeleton no healing thing except with bones thing would lead to "Leave a bunch of monsters in orc, go back if you ever need to heal up" 11:13:49 In Crawl, zombies and skeletons don't have intellegence or will 11:14:01 !send Lasty zombie form 11:14:02 Sending zombie form to Lasty. 11:14:15 Liches aren't skeletons ##notallundead 11:14:47 Or maybe I should say mummies aren't zombies? 11:14:50 anyway 11:17:33 c:/crawl/crawl/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/swamp.des:240: Map 'swamp_pool3' has no (possible) exits; use TAGS: no_exits if this is intentional. 11:17:38 Did anyone just make changes here? 11:18:08 er 11:18:21 Those vaults are really random and occasionally roll a version that has no exits.... 11:18:27 (I guess?) 11:18:33 Ah 11:18:37 retrying worked fine 11:18:41 so, okay then 11:22:18 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-1628-g789015c: Remove deterioration as a possible Ru purity sacrifice 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=789015c1d7c9 11:22:18 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-1629-gc32b685: Make conjured quasi-monsters stop hating you again 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c32b685451fe 11:22:52 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:23:07 Lasty: it might be a good idea to unify the instances of the check in the latter commit 11:23:14 so that we don't need to update two lists :) 11:23:27 Ah, fair point 11:23:28 (also it is considered good form to put Mantis issue numbers in commit messages for fixes for Mantis issues) 11:23:34 ^ 11:23:43 Lasty: Also, check if that list already exists somewhere. 11:23:46 Grunt: Oh! Didn't know. Thanks! 11:23:50 there are probably a few other places that could use that list 11:23:51 Maybe there's already a function which checks for that. 11:23:53 er ^ 11:24:06 If you're feeling ambitious maybe try to make it a monster tag. 11:25:15 Monster tag? Example? 11:25:23 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:03 M_WARM_BLOODED 11:26:21 Hmm. M_IS_CONJURATION_OR_CHARM? :p 11:26:42 M_MAGICAL_CONSTRUCT ? 11:26:54 M_TEMPORARY_MAGICAL_CONSTRUCT? 11:27:09 M_SOMETHING_WITH_A_CONCISE_NAME preferably :) 11:27:11 or just M_TEMPORARY_CONSTRUCT? 11:27:54 Grunt: I prefer clarity over consision in my variable names, but hopefully we can achieve both 11:28:09 Does is specifically need to not include spellforged servitors? 11:28:13 yes 11:28:23 They're a self-willed summon 11:28:58 this should only apply to "monsters" that are proxies for a summon or conjuration spell 11:29:51 Hmm. 11:30:31 Oh, the list should include OoDs too -- those are friendly normally 11:31:12 wait wait what 11:31:16 M_SPELL_PROXY 11:31:16 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:31:23 your BiA can talk to you? 11:32:11 there's a short period between when its berserk ends and it's abjured 11:32:22 -!- theTower has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:44 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:32:48 that's cool 11:32:58 but I never knew it had that ability. 11:33:00 I dont think it can talk during the berserk but it could during that brief period 11:33:06 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:14 because at that point it's like any other friendly summon 11:33:15 but if it COULD, that'd be the sickest 11:33:24 fire vortexes? 11:33:34 Grunt: do I need to create save compatibility if I change M_ properties? 11:34:00 Unless it's something which is marshalled somewhere (which is almost none of them), then no. 11:34:19 I've done M_ changes before and it didn't need save compat IIRC 11:39:35 doy: you were the one playing around with travis, right? 11:41:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:49 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:48:09 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:48:11 -!- staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:49:19 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:51 03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-1630-ga18231f: Create M_SPELL_PROXY flag for monsters that are charm/conjuration spell proxies 10(4 minutes ago, 4 files, 9+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a18231ffa3e1 11:54:02 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:54:19 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 11:54:20 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 11:54:58 !tell doy if 'make test' is too flaky to be useful on travis, you should just do a plain build. maybe test fewer cases too. I think three environments (console, tiles, webtiles, all in debug) would be fine to catch most errors, and would be much faster 11:54:59 nrook: OK, I'll let doy know. 11:55:17 03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-1631-gb1fcb48: Comment; adjust formatting. 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 6+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b1fcb485b221 11:55:41 (rip "add formattig fixes") 11:55:44 s/ig/ing/ 11:55:44 * gammafunk reformats Grunt! 11:55:47 rip my typing 11:55:49 !rebase gammafunk 11:55:49 Grunt rebases gammafunk. Gammafunk is banished to the reflog! 11:58:13 right, I've got a mocking vault I planned for a demon pit entry that might be good in a relaxed state for the halloween stuff 11:58:28 er, thanks, Grunt. Should have commented that myself. 11:58:42 Lasty: really it was a pretext to do those formatting fixes :) 11:59:04 ah, haha 11:59:29 still, no excuse for bad commenting 12:00:53 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:13:49 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:16:15 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1631-gb1fcb48 (34) 12:16:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:17:09 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 12:17:23 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:17:55 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:33 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:29:00 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 12:29:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:31:16 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:33:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:23 !send Grunt a separate function to spook people 12:34:23 PleasingFungus: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:34:23 Sending a separate function to spook people to Grunt. 12:34:29 four messages, dang 12:35:36 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:54 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:36:32 !tell PleasingFungus FIVE 12:36:32 gammafunk: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 12:37:00 !messages 12:37:01 (1/1) gammafunk said (28s ago): FIVE 12:37:08 rip 12:37:11 apparently most emergency spells went missing 12:37:26 oh no, nergalle lost ddoor? how tragic 12:37:29 ha 12:37:35 the flag went missing, not the spell itself 12:38:01 did you know that lich banishment is an emergency spell? 12:38:03 well, it was 12:38:09 oh so she'd just cast it whenever? 12:38:16 ya 12:38:19 fun 12:38:22 y a 12:39:42 clearly a purple draconian buff except for the hardcoded debuff_monsters() thing 12:40:02 (...what were the conclusions to death's door and cancellation anyway) 12:40:20 being knocked out of death's door by purple drac breath seems like a huge fuck you 12:40:26 you mean if you quaff cancellation in ddoor? 12:40:39 like, excessively huge 12:40:43 (that was my conclusion when it last came up) 12:40:46 did ddoor even nuke her hp 12:41:00 I know her exhaust duration (if she even has one) is shorter than the player's 12:41:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1632-g3dc8d8e: Clarify ration descriptions (elliptic) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3dc8d8eb75c1 12:43:57 great orb of eyes (09G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 50-83 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 20 | see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | XP: 1027 | Sp: paralyse, disintegrate (d44), slow, confuse, 04esc:teleport other | Sz: Large | Int: high. 12:43:57 %0.14?great orb of eyes 12:44:01 great orb of eyes (09G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 48-78 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 20 | see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | XP: 1024 | Sp: paralyse, disintegrate (d44), drain magic, confuse, teleport other | Sz: Large | Int: high. 12:44:01 %??great orb of eyes 12:44:03 hm 12:44:12 it looks like you can silence eyes/brains right now 12:44:20 I wonder if that's true 12:44:21 ... 12:45:03 ah, nope 12:45:07 I wonder where they get silence immunity from 12:45:15 it should probably show up in chei, regardless 12:48:37 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 180 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(160), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3954 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close, vampiric draining | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:48:37 %??jory 12:48:37 -!- Acidburn6 has quit [] 12:48:47 Jory (04V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 180 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 40, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(168), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3954 | Sp: crystal spear (3d37), mesmerise, blink close, 04esc:vampiric draining | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:48:47 %0.14?jory 12:48:53 honestly never knew he had that spell 12:48:56 like a lot of these escape spells 12:49:02 why do wizards have minor healing, anyway?? 12:49:21 or, uh. norris 12:49:24 that's a pretty imm.... 12:49:37 why does norris have it, or wizards? 12:49:41 wizard (06p) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 31-50 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 666 | Sp: b.venom (3d15), mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, 04esc: teleport self / crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), minor healing (2d5) / magic dart (3d5), paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, 04esc: teleport self / paralyse, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19), teleport other / stone arrow (3d17), sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, minor healing (2d5) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:49:41 %??wizard 12:49:48 wizard (06@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 26-53 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 6 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(53) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 658 | Sp: b.venom (3d15), mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, 04esc:teleport self / crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / magic dart (3d5), paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, 04esc:teleport self / paralyse, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19) / stone arrow (3d17), sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, 04esc:minor healing (2d5) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:49:48 %0.14?wizard 12:49:49 -!- bullock has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:49:58 clearly a holdover from so far back healing was a spell of the holy school 12:50:04 probably! 12:50:05 yeah I was thinking of orc wizards for some reason 12:50:10 same 12:50:15 (they also lost an escape spell flag!) 12:50:34 with average 40hp 12:50:49 !calc 6.0 / 40 12:50:50 0.15 12:51:08 norris clearly has healing because he's a priest 12:51:12 oh should have used 20 math for that 12:51:17 ...even though he's a death priest 12:51:17 but it's not a priest spell!!!! 12:51:22 make it one 12:51:36 norris should have major healing, clearly 12:51:43 major healing and torment. 12:51:46 uh 12:51:50 Dowan (05e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 3 | HP: 25 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(24) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 46 | Sp: throw frost (3d5), corona, blink, throw flame (3d5), haste other, 04esc:minor healing (2d1) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 12:51:50 %0.14?dowan 12:51:52 2d1 12:51:58 what, man 12:51:59 impressive 12:52:04 do you just not like hp? 12:52:06 2d1. 12:52:08 is that what I'm hearing 12:52:23 I bet regeneration would be a better spell than minor healing 12:53:20 Norris (07@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 214 | AC/EV: 1/9 | Dam: 36 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140) | Vul: 08holy | XP: 5062 | Sp: brain feed, smiting (7-17), invisibility, confuse, paralyse, minor healing (2d10) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:53:20 %??norris 12:53:36 and hd:20 monster 12:53:57 the word minor is taken very seriously 12:54:02 why 214 hp and not 215 12:54:07 oh, what was the suggestion for freddie again? 12:54:18 Frederick (03@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 159 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 27 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140) | XP: 3749 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25), b.cold (3d30), invisibility, iron shot (3d36) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:54:18 %??frederick 12:54:26 spellforged servitor, I beleive 12:54:28 right 12:54:39 I think I'm going to go make that a thing and see how it works 12:55:04 also, maybe he could lose a beam spell and gain something aoe 12:55:13 he's not a SoH 12:55:24 he's a dgre 12:55:39 any suggestions for a replacement? 12:55:42 hey imb is aoe 12:55:49 heh 12:55:49 yeah only technically 12:56:05 also, bonus question: 12:56:10 ogre mage (06O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 38-72 | AC/EV: 1/7 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(80) | XP: 920 | Sp: haste other, crystal spear (3d28), blink, b.fire (3d18), b.cold (3d18), 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / haste other, mystic blast (3d15), invisibility, confuse, slow, 04esc:teleport self / haste other, paralyse, haste, b.lightning (3d17), confuse, 04esc:teleport self / haste other, sting (d10), blink, b.lightning (3d17), banishment, 04esc:minor healing (2d5) / haste other, throw flame (3d8), invisibility, teleport other, fireball (3d19) | Sz: Large | Int: high. 12:56:10 %0.15?ogre mage 12:56:13 b.cold->fcloud would be one thing 12:56:14 rof would be a rad spell for a unique to have 12:56:22 teleport other isn't and wasn't an escape spell 12:56:25 but should it be? 12:56:29 it feels like maybe it should be 12:56:29 well we're giving him a gimmick of servitor so 12:56:36 freezing cloud is pretty weak for frederick depth 12:56:38 yeah doesn't work with servitor 12:56:39 asmo can be the rof guy 12:56:39 !send Azrael nrook 12:56:40 Sending nrook to Azrael. 12:56:44 ha ha ha ha 12:56:46 azrael doesn't count 12:56:48 mwa ha ha ha 12:56:49 oops 12:56:49 who is azrael 12:56:50 asmo 12:56:52 not azrael 12:56:54 wrong on 12:56:58 wrong demonic fire unique* 12:56:58 oh yeah 12:57:03 I was confused about that myself 12:57:08 speaking of wizard spell sets and improvable uniques 12:57:12 this is not the first time I've been confused by that. 12:57:26 going to pull out an old suggestion to pleasingfungus on his todo: erica with af_firebrand 12:57:55 the problem with that iirc was that fire cloud damage doesn't scale for shit, so it would be megahorrifying at erica depths 12:58:04 <3 12:58:09 s/for shit// 12:58:19 (she could lose some melee damage in the process?) 12:58:24 idk. ask gammafunk 12:58:35 well she's already a somewhat nasty unique 12:58:41 her spell set works well for her depth 12:58:41 also it comes with built-in AF_FIRE bonus damage, which is inconvenient 12:58:51 !killratio erica * recent 12:58:54 erica wins 1.418% of battles against * (recent). 12:58:54 the concern is that she's kind of generic 12:59:10 she could see some slight improvement but, well let me see 12:59:13 a wizard with a flaming scimitar and more health 12:59:14 !vault uniq_erica 12:59:14 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/uniques.des;hb=HEAD#l122 12:59:38 Erica (06@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 64 | AC/EV: 0/11 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 929 | Sp: b.venom (3d14), mystic blast (3d14), invisibility, confuse, slow, 04esc: teleport self | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 12:59:38 %??erica 13:00:33 she's currently on the lower side of danger for the uniques that spawn in her range I think, but I'd have to remind myself of who exactly spawns in d:10-, orc, Lair 13:00:58 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:01:45 !killratio harold * recent 13:01:48 harold wins 2.265% of battles against * (recent). 13:02:15 it doesn't help that harold is also a "fire unique" in the same range 13:02:24 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:02 too much fire bias, make random uniques other elements 13:03:20 storm xtahua 13:03:27 I can write up three paragraphs for a new ice mage unique if someone wants 13:03:53 what would it have that isn't fannar or cocytus serpent? 13:04:39 yeah fannar has a similar range to erica, harold 13:04:47 oh I just figured you needed three paragraphs to get an ice mage into crawl 13:04:52 :P 13:04:57 =p 13:05:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:05:27 You need three paragraphs of Grunt to get an ice mage into crawl 13:06:05 * PleasingFungus grunts. 13:06:19 !rng escape!!! no_escape 13:06:19 The RNG chooses: escape!!!. 13:06:22 good rng 13:06:22 what does three paragraphs of hangedman get you 13:06:37 dang, we still have a doubled spell 13:06:42 man, I could not even read 3 paragraphs of hangedman NSUBST I bet 13:06:55 I was thinking more of my commit message essays 13:07:27 one hundred lines to describe miscast changes, and I didn't even mention the status durations 13:08:07 DO was a fan of doing that as well, and I think mine tend to be someone long in general after reading a lot of his 13:09:02 oh, right, so no strong opinions on other spells for Freddie aside from servitor? 13:09:34 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:12:41 * PleasingFungus grunts. 13:13:02 a nerf of his came to mind 13:13:55 %git 94032bac355 13:13:55 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-795-g94032ba: Make Frederick's armour one class lighter (scale/chain/splint). 10(2 years, 7 months ago, 1 file, 6+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94032bac3553 13:14:07 I was around that long, what, ugh 13:16:15 Frederick (03@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 159 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 27 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140) | XP: 3749 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25), b.cold (3d30), invisibility, iron shot (3d36) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:16:15 %??frederick 13:16:30 surely a xl 21 demigod can cast invisibility and bolt of cold in plate, right 13:16:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1633-gac78d02: Fixup most (?) escape spells (DrKe) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 31+ 32-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac78d02afa75 13:17:10 that's his thing, right? he's good at everything 13:17:13 ya 13:17:24 he's better than you in all ways. he's frederick. 13:17:24 there's a function or macro to choose a random element from an array, right? 13:17:29 I know I've seen one around somewhere 13:18:25 RANDOM_ELEMENT 13:18:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:20:05 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:54 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:24:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:24:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:25:55 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28:17 -!- theTower has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:28:29 Is there an explanation of the monster EV/AC/SH display somewhere? 13:28:40