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iron devils into rust devils 10(8 weeks ago, 34 files, 77+ 74-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d77cf2bfca6 01:00:02 03PleasingFungus02 07[rusty] * 0.16-a0-1129-gd8de46a: Tweak damage 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8de46a2564f 01:01:05 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1127-g2ad92fb 01:01:18 neat. 01:06:08 -!- mong has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:09:38 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:11:45 -!- zvx has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:18 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:17:42 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:23:15 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 01:27:42 -!- potatolizard has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:04 -!- potatolizard is now known as Guest11857 01:39:11 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:47:52 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 02:01:26 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Bubba, XL16 GrFi, T:20945 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bubba/crash-Bubba-20141006-092015.txt 06:40:42 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:41:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:42:23 oh man 06:42:27 SW crashes again 06:43:09 (since checking AC now checks monster::type, i guess 06:44:02 -!- eoc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:45:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 06:46:19 -!- ololoev has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:47:15 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:48:45 ok, reproduced it instantly 06:49:00 make asterion, wait for him to cast SW and for it to get next to you 06:49:07 then hit him with the axe of woe 06:50:06 !tell |amethyst !crashlog bubba this seems to be easily reproducible on killing asterion with an axe and cleaving into the SW 06:50:07 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 06:50:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:28 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:55:54 ??beam damage 06:55:54 beam damage[1/1]: calcdice_calculator means (B + pow * C / D) damage divided among A identical dice. Die size is rounded up/down at random, weighted by remainder. dicedef_calculator means (A)d(B + pow * C / D) damage. 06:57:00 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:04:32 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:54 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:50 !tell |amethyst is it safe to merge branch 'rip_callbacks'? 07:09:50 wheals: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 07:14:29 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-1128-gcc37236: Give corrosive bolt to monsters with Random Bolt as well. 10(7 minutes ago, 2 files, 13+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc372365564a 07:14:44 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:14:50 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:13 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:18:13 -!- Pratfall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:30:33 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:37:41 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:37:42 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:39:08 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:13 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:41:52 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:43:28 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:45:27 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:49:17 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:50:19 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:52:29 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:52:37 -!- morphix0_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:57:22 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:57:54 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:00:28 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:01:02 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:02:16 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:04:22 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:04:53 -!- eoc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:09:08 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:09:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:16 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:13:11 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:17:01 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:20:38 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:24:45 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:27:52 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:28:54 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:31:29 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:34:52 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:36:40 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 08:39:52 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:46:20 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: rumrennen] 08:46:59 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:23 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:57:25 -!- Amy has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:59:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:18 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:24 Let's talk rod of striking. 09:05:55 Everyone I've heard from has concluded that it's pretty bad, aside from on DDs, who can get it to max power immediately. 09:06:18 Seems like it could use a buff. 09:07:01 everyone I've talked to agrees it's quite strong 09:07:04 so 09:07:12 idk 09:07:16 oh, really? 09:07:17 hmm 09:07:19 yes 09:07:23 !seen n78291 09:07:23 I last saw N78291 at Wed Jun 4 03:43:47 2014 UTC (17w 5d 10h 23m 36s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: null'. 09:07:29 Just out of curiosity, who's on the "strong" bandwagon? 09:07:33 I'd like to hear more from them 09:07:51 I should probably just try it myself, but I've never found it when I didn't already have a very good weapon 09:08:04 i found one quite before lair last win and it was quite useful 09:08:48 rod of striking has potential but the thing is you either need to invest in m&f + evoc quite a bit or find it very early 09:08:59 it's also a bit annoying to swap in and out 09:08:59 wheals: given the power level you saw, what would be a comperable melee weapon find? 09:09:08 also that yeah 09:09:39 *comparable. 09:09:47 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:14 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:11:10 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:03 hard to say, really 09:12:36 tekoppen (L27 DDFi) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1969 failed. (Zig:9) 09:12:44 reminds me of rod of the swarm in that you want to find it early to really make use of it 09:12:50 except you have to invest in absolutely nothing at all to use it 09:13:07 yeah rod of the swarm is a bit sad 09:13:57 Rod of the swarm is at least a decent Summon Butterflies throughout the game, and with some Evo is quite a bit better 09:14:00 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:13 I thought it didn't scale with evo at all? 09:14:14 You can kill orb guardians with it 09:14:16 ?? rod of the swarm 09:14:16 summon swarm[1/2]: Level 5 rod spell. Summons all sorts of wild beasts ranging from butterflies and goliath beetles to yellow wasps. Always friendly (before 0.8 they were often hostile). 09:14:17 maybe the rod was probably better than a branded great sword at least 09:14:21 ?? rod of the swarm[2 09:14:21 summon swarm[2/2]: Full list: Killer bee (tripled weight), scorpion, worm, vampire mosquito, goliath beetle, spider, butterfly, yellow wasp, and worker ant (tripled weight). No vampire mosquitoes if you're with a good god. Choice of summons not weighted by power, but number of summons is. 09:14:30 wheals: wow, that is -good- 09:14:31 hm 09:14:31 -!- notapirate has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:36 guys 09:14:38 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mgrd problem occurred during level generation Currently generating level. Level build method = random_map_for_place, level layout type = , absdepth0 = 35 Level vaults: ziggurat_pillar_abc x4 ziggurat1; Bogosity: mgrd at (47,38) points at DEAD MONSTER, but monster is at (0,0) Additionally, it isn't alive. x2 Bogus mgrd (47, 38) pointing to DEAD MONSTER not in any vaults. Monst 09:14:42 anyone knows what this means 09:14:49 a bogosity occured 09:14:58 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 27-52 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 09:14:58 %??yak 09:14:59 it means ziggurats are still broken 09:15:02 awright, I've gotta try a rod of striking before I pass judgment it sounds like 09:15:14 also what the hell is bogosity 09:15:21 i think there might be some weird thing were the damage doesn't get '!'s 09:15:22 a bogosity? 09:15:23 what do 09:15:24 bogousness I assume 09:16:03 also, it gets a lot worse with higher ac iirc 09:16:18 uhh 09:16:20 maybe that was just based on bad messages 09:16:20 i don't get it. 09:16:34 !lm tekoppen x=zigscompleted 09:16:35 4408. [2014-10-06 14:12:33] [zigscompleted=0] tekoppen the Invulnerable (L27 DDFi of The Shining One) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1969 failed on turn 126725. (Zig:9) 09:16:38 !lm tekoppen crash -log 09:16:38 1. tekoppen, XL27 DDFi, T:126725 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/tekoppen/crash-tekoppen-20141006-141233.txt 09:16:43 I've heard that AC gets applied to the evo damage as well as the base club damage 09:18:05 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:11 i don't get this code 09:18:12 man 09:18:56 hi dpeg! 09:20:05 hey dpeg 09:20:42 well 09:20:42 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:20:44 the bogusity passed 09:22:10 such is the way of these things. 09:23:29 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:24:11 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:24:30 Hallo 09:25:16 and so it goes 09:30:52 asanbosam (L27 VpEn) ASSERT(blood.sub_type == POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED) in 'rot.cc' at line 596 failed. (Coc:4) 09:33:08 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:11 !crashlog bubba 09:33:12 2. Bubba, XL16 GrFi, T:20945 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bubba/crash-Bubba-20141006-092015.txt 09:33:17 oh 09:33:18 hm 09:33:33 !lm bubba crash x=src 09:33:33 2. [2014-10-06 09:20:15] [src=clan] Bubba the Severer (L16 GrFi of Qazlal) (Snake:3) 09:33:37 hm. 09:34:30 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:35:15 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:35 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:48:50 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:50 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 09:48:50 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup online now! Type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??cbro for instructions. | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: http://termcast.develz.org - ??footv for instructions | See also ##crawl-offtopic 09:49:36 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:49:40 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:51:34 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:51:57 -!- Z_LAMP_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:53:54 -!- braveplatypus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:54:29 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:30 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:46 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:58:27 -!- AGinsberg-0x71 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:01:34 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:03:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:51 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:04:43 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:10:01 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:13:23 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:27 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 10:23:05 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:24:12 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:28:32 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:57 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:55 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:09 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34:17 You evil amulet people, you have overdone it! Cursed be the devs!! Game's more like Candy Crush now!!! 10:34:20 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13834 10:35:50 I knew it 10:36:24 I have no clue where the hysteria comes from. I could sort of understand with MD, but for this change? It's painful to have players like this :) 10:36:27 oh, that's cyc 10:36:30 could be a joke 10:36:48 I give a 50% chance of seriousness 10:37:20 :) 10:37:39 Is this where the English word "half-assed" comes from? 10:38:36 nope! half-assed is something that doesn't have enough effort put into it 10:39:15 * dpeg wonders whether the positive of half-assed would be quarter-assed. 10:39:56 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:40:17 these are questions for the ages 10:42:57 is that a troll thread 10:43:16 -!- notapirate has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:43:17 definitely! 10:43:25 it already "got" dpeg :) 10:43:30 I saw "CYC" 10:43:38 and was like "oh this could be a trick" 10:43:59 (whether or not it's serious, it's definitely only being posted to get reactions out of people) 10:44:05 hmm, i wonder if this will make regen be more common 10:44:10 since there are less amulets than rings 10:44:28 PleasingFungus: you are so good at ruining crawl 10:44:36 I try! 10:44:38 (who's cyc?) 10:44:44 crazy yuif's corner 10:44:45 the off-topic forum on tavern 10:44:53 ah 10:44:54 its the "shit thread" forum 10:45:06 and why does this person say that they spend their time undoing damage to the game 10:45:07 not to be confused with gdd, which is full of shitty threads 10:45:13 well 10:45:15 they're at least trying 10:45:43 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:45:52 doy: that is a good question 10:51:13 -!- SirDieALot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:58:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:59:01 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:59:05 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:39 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:07:13 -!- Z_LAMP_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:08:44 orc warlord (11o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 85-143 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 32 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 1671 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 11:08:44 %??orc warlord 11:10:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:51 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:19:47 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:48 was "you have identified the last scroll" removed intentionally? 11:25:04 no 11:25:19 I have an unIDed scroll with only one scroll unknown 11:25:22 I've been hearing about bugginess with last-item IDing (probably I broke something again) 11:25:22 -!- Z_LAMP_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:25:24 oh 11:25:27 no that's as intended 11:25:29 once you actually see it 11:25:34 it'll ID 11:25:39 no, I'm holding it 11:25:41 oh 11:25:43 hm 11:25:45 that sounds incorrect 11:32:14 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:25 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:38:53 -!- Redz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:39:49 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40:53 Formicids can dig in treeform 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9024 by Kvaak 11:41:50 secret treerunning tech 11:42:05 that is a mega good bug 11:42:09 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42:13 fr: remove main.cc 11:43:00 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43:26 PleasingFungus: does line 4242-4243 of items.cc assume the item is jewellery without checking? 11:44:10 !source items.cc:4242 11:44:11 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/items.cc;hb=HEAD#l4242 11:44:51 rchandra: it... does look like that, doesn't it 11:45:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:45:39 %git a5a51aa8 11:45:39 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-1028-ga5a51aa: Fix ring ID 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5a51aa86908 11:46:03 oh 11:46:07 hm. 11:46:27 well, I know the fix, but I don't have source access right now 11:46:30 though it did that before, it seems - probably not actually a change 11:46:35 no that broke it 11:46:46 the old assumption was that everything but amulets had FOO_FIRST_FOO as 0 11:50:25 what a great assumption to make undocumented 11:50:29 (: 11:50:49 ya 11:50:54 I mean it wasn't good code before 11:51:03 but it wasn't *wrong*, per se 11:51:27 anyway, doy, do you mind fixing it? 11:51:36 sure 11:51:43 how do i test it? 11:52:13 hm. something involving &y and &Y. I know i tested this earlier... 11:52:16 well, i tested rings 11:53:31 yakdemonium lord 11:53:38 pandemonium yak? 11:55:12 terrifying 11:56:06 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-1129-gdf7328d: Repurpose the old brown ooze tile as a standard ooze 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df7328d716bc 11:56:48 hmmm 11:56:54 Rock Ooze 11:57:07 so i'm not sure i see why the code doesn't work for, say, scrolls 11:57:18 in that color scheme, it looks kinda like a ground fungus or s/t 11:57:54 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:57:58 doy: it's checking from RING_FIRST_RING to RING_FIRST_RING + item_count 11:58:19 the last element of that is out of bounds for non-rings and is probably doing horrible things 11:58:35 (since RING_FIRST_RING is currently 1, I think?) 11:58:40 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:58:58 oh, i see 11:59:13 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:00:50 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:01:10 maybe the easiest would be to define i and the maximum i before the loop, now that they have more special cases 12:02:50 yes 12:03:02 well, not "define i", but the starting point, yes 12:03:08 quibbling over wording 12:03:45 hmmm, i may have just broken rings instead 12:03:47 nice 12:05:41 alright, that should be good, i think 12:05:45 let me know, i'm heading out to lunch 12:05:56 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1129-gdf7328d (34) 12:06:24 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-1130-g00c5a5d: fix identifying the last item of a type (PleasingFungus) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=00c5a5d6e358 12:06:24 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-1131-g1c656ec: oops, fix rings 10(in the future, 1 file, 8+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c656ec425a5 12:06:57 in the future 12:07:03 again 12:07:17 also remind me to clean this up some more 12:08:04 ty for the fix! 12:10:03 -!- sssssssssssssss has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:22 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:19:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:20:41 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:20:58 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:21:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:27 -!- HonestMoneyLende has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:27:43 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:28:48 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:32:12 -!- Oxybeles has quit [] 12:36:58 Item displayed twice in Ctrl-x list 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9025 by josh 12:37:18 http://i.imgur.com/AyGO9vk.png http://i.imgur.com/vtDrs4f.png this is not crawl and yet it is very crawlcode 12:41:01 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:48:52 -!- amatsu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:49:24 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:49:34 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:50:16 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:17 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:50:33 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:40 -!- Kashira has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50:57 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest91170 12:51:29 -!- _Jordan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:17 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:01 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:38 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:08 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:20 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:03:37 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:10:32 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:34 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:17:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:18:02 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19:29 -!- nicholas982 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:19:55 "in the future" means i need to reset my laptop clock 13:20:16 for some reason, sleep/wake cycles tend to knock it out of sync faster than ntp can keep up 13:28:40 !tell thetower I cannot find the icon :( 13:28:40 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let thetower know. 13:32:19 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:34:03 -!- crush has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:35:18 -!- lunarharp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:37:34 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:48 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:44:55 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:45:40 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:22 -!- lukano has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55:19 -!- Oxybeles has quit [Client Quit] 14:03:42 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:04:00 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:07 -!- getdunked has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:10:01 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:22 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:11:08 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:11:50 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 14:12:33 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:23:52 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:26:30 -!- MgDark_HuIE has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:30:21 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:11 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:37:25 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:19 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:47:46 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55:31 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:57:28 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59:47 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:07 AbeloneMcGillatop (L15 FeCK) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 541 failed. (D:15) 15:03:02 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:07 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:08:01 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:08:17 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:00 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:47 gammafunk: did you mean removing felids or removing jump attack? 15:10:10 well I was saying if I remove jump-attack from them, the only thing you like about them is gone, so 15:10:15 we could... 15:10:37 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:39 Fe removal will probably never happen 15:10:57 as much as we like to joke about it 15:11:12 Well, there's probably someone somewhere who likes them, and I already have greatplayer, so that's fine. :p 15:11:26 they're actually played a fair amount 15:11:35 If I could have cut them -before- greatplayer, it'd be a different story :p 15:11:50 !lg * recent !boring !dr s=species 15:11:53 467886 games for * (recent !boring !dr): 52303x Demonspawn, 39370x Minotaur, 36667x Gargoyle, 35611x Deep Elf, 28763x Octopode, 26385x Vine Stalker, 22072x Formicid, 18932x Spriggan, 18710x High Elf, 18257x Hill Orc, 17109x Merfolk, 15436x Ogre, 15379x Troll, 14390x Mummy, 14306x Tengu, 13920x Vampire, 12603x Human, 11361x Naga, 10946x Kobold, 8288x Felid, 8089x Centaur, 7933x Deep Dwarf, 7314x De... 15:12:07 they made it above the fold 15:12:08 Above Ce, DD, Dg 15:12:33 20th most-played species! woo! 15:12:39 I'm surprised to see Ce so low 15:12:41 Well also greatplayer can be gotten at any time with the current stable release of species 15:12:48 (even though you were joking) 15:13:16 Yeah Ce's apts drive people away, and I think also people feel they have to go ranged with them 15:13:21 and ranged is less popular overall 15:13:25 Fe are neat, even though I don't feel like playing them very often. 15:13:39 I suppose removing jump attack from Fe means it could go on some better species. But I'm guessing that is not what you have in mind. :) 15:13:42 PleasingFungus: think of the millimarvins you'd have... 15:13:56 yeah, not what I had in mind :p 15:14:20 PleasingFungus: maybe you should do a simulated Fe removal and just *look* at the - numbers. Think about it 15:14:59 what you fail to realize is that I optimize on negated-millimarvins........ 15:15:06 noooo 15:15:07 reverse-millimarvins? 15:15:10 eh. 15:15:19 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:21 millimarvins? 15:15:25 minus-millimarvins 15:15:45 ??millimarvin 15:15:45 millimarvin[1/1]: 7.5 net lines of code removed (as of 2014-08-14) 15:15:48 mmm 15:16:13 negamillimarvins 15:16:15 <|amethyst> a millisnark is 191 lines of code added 15:16:15 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:16:18 we need a milli-guywhoaddsstuff 15:16:23 ah 15:16:26 too slow, gammafunk! 15:16:31 ??millisnark 15:16:31 I don't have a page labeled millisnark in my learndb. 15:16:49 !learn add millisnark <|amethyst> a millisnark is 191 lines of code added 15:16:50 millisnark[1/1]: <|amethyst> a millisnark is 191 lines of code added 15:16:56 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17:04 currently at 20.5 millisnarks 15:17:20 fr hunt the snark??? 15:17:27 oh 15:17:29 we do actually 15:17:34 for japanese server 15:17:42 I always forget the acronym. ddl? 15:17:51 1learn add imo 15:17:53 lld 15:18:01 ??lld 15:18:02 lld ~ lrd[1/4]: Lee's Rapid Deconstruction: Turns walls into explosions. Useful for removing inconvenient stone or green crystal walls, though one needs fairly high power to pierce stone, and even higher to pierce metal (see {lrd[4]}). Causes lots of undodgeable damage to anything foolish enough to be near the wall (but AC is applied thrice). 15:18:04 ??imo 15:18:04 I don't have a page labeled imo in my learndb. Did you mean: imb, immo, imp, ivo, mo. 15:18:12 :( 15:18:13 ??ivo 15:18:13 ivo[1/1]: see {uru} 15:18:18 ??uru 15:18:19 I don't have a page labeled uru in my learndb. Did you mean: ru, urug. 15:18:23 huh. 15:18:26 !learn del ivo 15:18:27 that's a good entry. 15:18:27 Deleted ivo[1/1]: see {uru} 15:18:30 rip ivo 15:18:30 noo 15:18:36 rip 15:18:49 gammafunk continues his streak as Top Ruiner 15:19:02 so much to ruin, so little time 15:20:18 -!- FatShack is now known as FShckAway 15:20:27 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21:28 huh. looking at mantis stats. 15:21:32 288 is certainly a thing. 15:21:52 -!- CacoS has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:22:10 oh man, it even has a five-year-old patch 15:23:58 hahaha, and the last comment on 298 15:25:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:29:53 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:38:35 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:42:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Changing host] 15:43:34 -!- Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:43:59 -!- getdunked has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:45:40 -!- Oxybeles has quit [] 15:46:11 You meow at foo! 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9026 by Kashira 15:47:19 glorious 15:47:22 the best bug 15:52:15 psst ontoclasm 15:52:30 i've added more floors to 8874 15:52:43 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: when you tested doxygen, did the duration_power_scaling comments come out right? 15:52:45 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:52:52 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53:06 oh I ran it yesterday as well 15:53:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I was under the impression you needed ///< because the comment follows the enumerator 15:53:28 one thing I noticed was that random2's cross-reference failed because of the LUA1 macro thing we use 15:53:44 |amethyst: I don't recall off the top of my head. make doxy-simple and check? 15:53:51 it went to the lua definition istead of the c++ one 15:54:05 -!- Ipsum_ is now known as Ipsum 15:54:43 PURPLE SPIDER 15:55:19 <|amethyst> ah, yes, they are off-by-one 15:55:20 it's the color scheme i've intended for spider for a while 15:55:51 doxygen is pretty nice with the inline source enabled and the crossreferences 15:56:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:56:31 -!- Sharkman1231_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:57:18 can't really see myself using it aside from reading the comments in my editor, of course, but I'm sure someone will find it useful 15:57:21 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:58:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-1132-gad589c6: Fix doxygen comments. 10(81 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ad589c67c6cd 15:58:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:58:04 imagine how nice it would be for a new dev 15:58:10 or for a part of the source that was new to you 15:58:22 maybe 15:58:35 I've always just used TAGS and grep when that fails 15:58:45 need to get xscope working though, I'm sure that would help 15:58:54 <|amethyst> I was going to say, I just use ctrl-] in vim 15:59:04 is that cscope ? 15:59:09 or TAG lookup 15:59:12 <|amethyst> or :split then ctrl-] if I want to keep my original location 15:59:15 <|amethyst> tag lookup 15:59:19 right, yeah 15:59:21 <|amethyst> of the thing under the cursor 15:59:41 yeah lot's of Meta-. here as well 16:00:06 but what I'd like is a way to see what calls a given thing at my cursor 16:00:17 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:00:24 without running grep, I mean 16:00:26 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:36 <|amethyst> I use :vimgrep for that :) 16:00:38 this is assuming that the tag is commented, right? 16:00:39 heh 16:00:45 <|amethyst> but cscope would be better, yes 16:00:47 no tags don't use comments 16:00:59 <|amethyst> you have to run ctags to generate a tag file 16:01:03 johnny0: etags/ctags just indexes all the objects, makes a database 16:01:06 requires no comments 16:01:14 <|amethyst> I do so on every checkout, commit, merge, rebase, etc 16:01:32 yeah, with git hooks that's really nice 16:01:44 gammafunk: i mean, you can jump to a tag and still be completely lost since the tag isn't commented 16:02:13 johnny0: maybe from your perspective? programmers tend to just read the code :) 16:02:44 things are always better with comments, but of course many internal variables won't have any 16:03:35 and bolt beem; tells you all you need to know! 16:04:35 roctavian: sweet 16:05:15 ontoclasm: i feel that the darkness i'm introducing might be controversial, but i strongly feel it improves visibility 16:06:01 oh, i agree 16:06:02 but zot is the purple branch! 16:06:06 or is it, actually 16:06:11 I guess it's rainbow 16:06:12 zot is all colors 16:06:20 floor should be around %10 luma in my opinion 16:06:37 ontoclasm: wouldn't like cool rpg crystal type walls for zot rule? 16:06:37 and these look a lot closer to that 16:06:48 gammafunk: yep 16:07:12 zot could definitely use its own unieu tileset; the weird lightning walls are okay but could be better 16:07:22 yeah, i've often thought that 16:07:22 anyway, i've gotta go to office hours, cheers 16:07:26 enjoy 16:11:08 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12:02 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:13:32 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:15:22 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:25 Felid jump attack doesn't work with empty tiles 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9027 by Kashira 16:20:11 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:12 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:22 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:31:05 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:31:18 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Client Quit] 16:31:50 Hm, I think gammafunk has an idea, doy. 16:31:57 :p 16:32:01 heh 16:32:47 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:33:40 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:33 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:40:53 gammafunk: yeah I'm noticing the same thing re monsters being able to very consistently shoot through your allies (though I think it also applies to things other than ranged attacks; spells too) 16:41:09 PleasingFungus: good, glad I'm not crazy 16:41:21 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:41:23 !lg . x=sdam,mhp 16:41:23 333. [sdam=44;mhp=45] PleasingFungus the Summoner (L9 TeSu of Sif Muna), shot by a centaur warrior (arrow of frost) on D:9 (hangedman_cross_cluster) on 2014-10-06 21:39:55, with 2317 points after 7042 turns and 0:43:13. 16:41:24 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:27 I first noticed it with new ranged and kobolds with blowguns 16:41:32 two shots in one turn, both through several allies 16:41:34 good dmg 16:41:37 ya 16:41:40 !log . 16:41:40 333. PleasingFungus, XL9 TeSu, T:7042: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/PleasingFungus/morgue-PleasingFungus-20141006-213955.txt 16:41:48 -!- sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:41:52 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:41:53 d:9 centaur warrior, bad luck 16:41:53 two allies each, apparently 16:41:57 and bad play 16:41:57 the reason monsters shoot through your allies is rather simple 16:42:01 that vault gets me sometimes 16:42:02 I could've booked it but didn't 16:42:02 su buff, stops you from losing offense 16:42:03 your allies have dumb monster ev, you do not 16:42:12 potatolizard: not sure about that 16:42:18 oh right you mean dumb high 16:42:19 hm 16:42:21 ice beast (12Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 512(cold:5-14) | amphibious | Res: 06magic(20), 12cold+++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 130 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 16:42:21 %??ice beast 16:42:30 about the same ev as I had 16:42:35 possibly exactly the same 16:42:49 yeah I havne't numerically verified it or anything, it just seems to be an unintended change most likely 16:45:22 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:46:32 philosophically, should accuracy increase your odds of hitting something between you and your target? 16:46:51 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:47:11 well I think positioning should matter, and there should certainly be a very appreciable chance that moving behind a target will protect you 16:47:34 but yeah it doesn't have to be that their to-hit is simply applied to the first monster in the projectile path 16:47:58 as in, the same to-hit they'd have gotten versus you 16:48:07 ya 16:48:36 in the old pre-ranged overhaul, they were still quite able to hit you 16:48:54 I honestly don't know what the code looks like now 16:49:04 it's just that your allies were also quite able to block the projectile, and that seems to be much less the case 16:49:11 yeah I should look in detail 16:49:28 Assuming something changed, I'm not sure what changed 16:52:22 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:53:05 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:54:51 it's possible that gr*nt would have some ideas 16:55:00 -!- hubbles has quit [Client Quit] 16:55:12 -!- Calisca has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:55:15 or 'grunt', as some call him 16:55:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:33 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:56:20 -!- MIC132 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57:04 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:58:43 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:46 the one who grunts 16:59:20 -!- _Jordan_ has quit [Quit: _Jordan_] 16:59:45 -!- grisamentum has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:01:22 -!- alefury has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:01:32 * Grunt grunts, as Grunt often does. 17:02:59 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: sunchronisieren] 17:04:24 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:04:48 -!- _Jordan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:11 Grunt: any reason you'd see why archers shooting at the player would very seldomly see allies in-between getting hit instead with new-ranged? 17:05:32 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-1132-gad589c6 (34) 17:05:34 gammafunk: hm 17:05:48 that sentence was more horrible than a tmons, sorry 17:06:25 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:07:09 The sentence grabs gammafunk. The sentence constricts gammafunk!! 17:07:59 gammafunk: I can tell you off the top of my head that to-hit is rolled on a per square basis (i.e. it's not pre-rolled before the arrow starts moving). 17:08:03 Other than that idk. 17:08:53 ok, well that should allow allies to get hit, but I'll take a closer look, thanks 17:09:01 ??gammafunk 17:09:01 gammafunk[1/6]: TODO: infiniplex's elf:3 at low weight, make monster color inherit when possible, moon wizlab, depths encompass, grand avatar movement bug, make HD-or-other-checking things sane wrt MR-immune, mnoleg fast tentacles, make mnoleg tentacle heads shove through X when possible 17:09:02 -!- SakuyaIzayoi has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:13 filling up again 17:09:21 ??gammafunk[2 17:09:21 gammafunk[2/6]: TODO2: For damage done to tentacles: reduce damage done to tentacle head to maybe 1/3 and reduce Kraken hp to 2/3 17:09:49 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:09:50 * PleasingFungus grunts. 17:09:57 !learn edit gammafunk[2 s/$/, figure out why you keep getting pincushioned!/ 17:09:58 gammafunk[2/6]: TODO2: For damage done to tentacles: reduce damage done to tentacle head to maybe 1/3 and reduce Kraken hp to 2/3, figure out why you keep getting pincushioned! 17:10:10 I might also take a look, if I remember 17:10:17 now that I'm playing su, I have a personal interest :) 17:10:19 yeah, feel free 17:10:24 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 17:10:30 !gamesby PleasingFungus --Su 17:10:30 god, what a waste of a character. found book of beasts before lair! 17:10:30 PleasingFungus (--Su) has played 7 games, between 2014-03-25 02:15:48 and 2014-10-06 21:39:55, won 0, high score 617648, total score 621946, total turns 70123, play-time/day 0:02:42, total time 8:50:18. 17:10:50 seven, we wouldn't even invite you into the junior summoner's club! 17:10:57 !hs . su 17:10:58 7. PleasingFungus the Demonologist (L26 TeSu of Ashenzari), blasted by an orb of fire (fireball) on Zot:1 (hangedman_zot_diagonal_lockstep) on 2014-09-11 00:43:42, with 617648 points after 52990 turns and 7:05:18. 17:11:07 that was a good char 17:11:16 for a moment I read "blown up by an orb of fire" 17:11:37