00:00:02 wheals: the spell display should probably distinguish between spells and invocations and innates 00:00:11 then there's rust for iron devils, uh, hmm 00:00:19 yeah 00:00:36 * wheals is angry that the length of spell lists is not actually arbitrary, there's a cap at 256 00:00:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: yes, Thann's \ screen code is not the best in the world 00:00:50 I've also got in my notes "give af_pain to hellwings since they're supposedly necro 4s but have next to nothing since summons can't animate and thus are hard-hitting teleport-others" 00:00:50 johnny0: yeah this bug was reported, but it doesn't happen on linux it seems 00:01:00 I'm doing autoexplore with vanilla rc 00:01:04 greatsword, cloak 00:01:04 |amethyst: save compat war chant code doesn't work if I re-use the war-chant enum... 00:01:07 wheals: that was a stop-gap solution for not having a convenient means to initialise variable length arrays :b 00:01:08 I see both always 00:01:11 ??4 00:01:11 4[1/1]: The weaker {common demon}s: {blue devil}, {iron devil}, {orange demon}, {red devil}, {sixfirhy}, {hellwing}. 00:01:14 but w/e, war chants turning into fen folio is fine 00:01:19 ??3 00:01:19 3[1/1]: The strongest of the {common demon}s: {sun demon}, {soul eater}, {ice devil}, {smoke demon}, {neqoxec}, {ynoxinul}, {chaos spawn}. 00:01:22 vlaaaaaaaaargh 00:01:29 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 00:01:30 right there's still ynoxinuls, ugh 00:01:38 ynoxinughs 00:01:42 wow, end the ynoxihate 00:01:47 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: the code in tags.cc does still work 00:01:50 * Grunt throws iron shot at PleasingFungus. 00:01:50 * Sequell also throws iron shot at PleasingFungus. 00:02:02 Sequell: hi... 00:02:02 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because it's in a th.getMinorVersion check 00:02:04 need slowing-explosion ufetbi, maybe? 00:02:12 Summon Exploding Ufetubus 00:02:14 i was going to make ynoxinuls be worldbinder-like and tied to one of the hells 00:02:21 |amethyst: hm. I suppose I can... 00:02:23 oh? 00:02:27 and then ditch ufetubi, so we have 4 5s 00:02:29 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you'd have to change it from BOOK_WAR_CHANTS to BOOK_FEN in that code 00:02:44 noooo we need more 5sssssss 00:02:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: and remove all the other uses of WAR_CHANTS that prevent it from being generated 00:02:53 interesting ones, sure 00:03:01 "just import all the 4.1 ones" 00:03:04 |amethyst: I came up with a better solution 00:03:14 admittedly yes we already lost an "interesting" one with item destruction hurting white imps 00:03:15 you will see... shortly 00:03:33 theTower: I can't believe my crimson-imps-with-wands-of-flame vault was ruined so shortly after its creation :( 00:03:35 the solution to the one with malmutate: remember that back then the spell enum was SPELL_POLYMORPH 00:03:45 hahaha 00:03:51 ...oh hey 00:03:51 gammafunk: it doesn't happen on my win x64 install 00:04:00 gammafunk wanna give mnoleg the most important spell ever 00:04:26 ...yes 00:04:44 (Can we start a demonreform branch so we have somewhere to put these ideas?) 00:04:44 Mnoleg gestures. You turn into a pig! 00:04:50 johnny0, PleasingFungus: well I just tested an os x build on an old-ass system and I see no weapon but I do see my shield 00:04:58 huh 00:04:59 wheals: s/turn/have been turned/ 00:05:11 we already had a demonreform, surely this is just demonfinishingtouches 00:05:12 that's... odd 00:05:20 demonreformreform 00:05:21 imo 00:05:26 demonformreform 00:05:28 gammafunk: is it old as in powerpc old, core duo old, or not-as-old-as-these old? 00:05:37 No, PleasingFungus. You are the demons. 00:05:42 admittedly 00:05:46 (And then PleasingFungus was a hydra.) 00:06:13 demonrerereform 00:06:20 johnny0: core 2 duo, 2.2ghz 00:06:31 old macbook 00:06:46 oh I have a new macbook I could try it on as well 00:07:49 pleasingfungus: how horrible would it be if to compensate for floor-item-pick-up-nerfing crimson imps got af_steal 00:07:54 augh 00:08:02 AUGH 00:08:04 new imp duh 00:08:14 then just fill a hell end with them 00:08:17 fr for ynoxinul - make ufetebus suicidally exploding 00:08:19 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1070-g1dfd631 (34) 00:08:32 Maurice is Very Special and I do not think he needs to have a million little horrible red clones flying around. 00:08:32 are there many other ways to explode 00:08:38 doy: that was a good mantis 00:08:47 we were talking about it the other day 00:08:54 it was a mantis? 00:08:55 maurice is a special boy 00:08:56 pleasingfungus: what if af_steal was put into the pan lord brand list instead 00:08:59 it was a patch, I believe! 00:09:05 theTower: hahaha 00:09:10 well 00:09:15 pan lords use brands 00:09:16 not afs 00:09:21 do any players even see pan lord brands 00:09:24 but if it weren't for that, I would support it 00:09:27 doy: n o p e 00:09:28 who fights random pan lords anyway 00:09:31 cool dudes. 00:09:48 coolplayers?? 00:09:48 Players who have won at least one combo that makes a word online in 80x24 console using vikeys or arrows+numrow or an external numpad. 00:09:54 Eyexri shouts, "What are you, a monk?" 00:09:54 well, when you're looking for the demonic rune, on a melee-offense character, and that pan lord has chaos brand, 00:09:56 hi Sequell thanks 00:10:11 then you remember very well when you get berserked 00:10:26 why were exploding ufetebi not accepted 00:10:54 if I remember that ticket it was using the exploding dart definition of exploding, which is useless past d:7 00:11:09 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:11:15 well ufetubi are popcorn-tier demons 00:11:15 Maybe Inner Flame didn't exist then. 00:11:17 so that's fitting 00:11:17 the principle is sound! 00:11:24 Grunt: it was like 9 months ago 00:11:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:11:25 let me find it 00:11:52 white imps had a chance to matter no matter where you found them!! 00:12:00 !bug 8166 00:12:00 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8166 00:12:11 hahaha I honestly did not remember 00:12:15 the submitter 00:12:46 obviously need a better beam 00:12:54 BEAM_GHOSTLY_FLAME 00:12:55 <_< 00:12:59 haha 00:13:00 (don't do that) 00:13:04 :| 00:13:27 (by which I mean we already have something that does that of course) 00:13:27 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:13:28 obviously 00:13:33 oh 00:13:34 make it 00:13:37 BEAM_DEMONIC_FLAME 00:13:38 summoned ufetubi should explode in a weak explosion 00:13:42 distinct from hellfire obv 00:13:45 augh, what's the term for... can go on land but is comfortable in the water 00:13:45 naturally spawned ones, however 00:13:46 not aquatic 00:13:50 explode in a huge explosion 00:13:50 PleasingFungus: amphibious 00:13:50 ? 00:13:54 yes 00:13:55 maybe 00:14:11 the book is amphibious, you can throw it into deep water and watch it float 00:14:34 maybe even use its splash attack a couple of times 00:14:36 oh, I just learned a word, "natatory". 00:14:37 how useless. 00:15:06 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:22 worst idea: have a _third_ corrosive demon, make ufetubi explode with corrosion 00:15:48 well 00:15:51 we don't have even one yet 00:16:00 if only I didn' 00:16:12 t have [redacted] in the way I'd do rust devils right now just to spite you 00:16:30 well, I just need to figure out how AF_CORRODE should actually work 00:16:46 and possibly redesign the archaic coroision chance mechanic 00:16:52 *corrosion 00:16:59 minor problems :P 00:17:23 (fine, fine) 00:17:42 I mean you're welcome to do it! 00:17:51 that's just why I haven't, yet 00:19:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:19:52 -!- Wahaha has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:09 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1070-g1dfd631 (34) 00:21:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:22:07 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 00:24:14 huh, this puts leda's in three bokos 00:24:16 *books 00:24:26 lotta books for a weird spell to be in 00:24:37 is hyder form in more than one books yet 00:24:40 two 00:24:43 cool 00:24:53 fen and transfigurations 00:25:09 hyder form, because you escape quickly when swimming (?) 00:25:28 I'll have to think about it. 00:25:32 ledas is one of those spells that no one seems to use 00:25:49 ya 00:26:01 it is niche but excellent for it 00:26:15 seems fine to me to have it be common 00:26:16 Leda's is great; it's just not many people know how to use it effectively. 00:27:57 ?/liquef 00:27:58 Matching terms (2): leda's_liquefaction, ledas_liquefaction; entries (14): book_of_debilitation[1] | book_of_hinderance[1] | book_of_the_earth[1] | book_of_the_fen[1] | hexes[2] | leda[1] | leda's[1] | leda's_liquefaction[1] | ledas[1] | ledas_liquefaction[1] | liquid[1] | list_of_spells_by_school[5] | simmarine[5] | slownado[1] 00:28:05 ??ledas_liquefaction 00:28:05 leda's liquefaction[1/2]: Level 4 earth/hexes spell, found in the book of the Earth. Generates a halo of "liquefied" ground around the caster. Moving on liquefied ground has a -3 player movement malus. Applies slow movement effect to monsters. Doesn't affect flying, clinging, insubstantials; cannot be cast by these. 00:28:10 ??slownado 00:28:11 leda's liquefaction[1/2]: Level 4 earth/hexes spell, found in the book of the Earth. Generates a halo of "liquefied" ground around the caster. Moving on liquefied ground has a -3 player movement malus. Applies slow movement effect to monsters. Doesn't affect flying, clinging, insubstantials; cannot be cast by these. 00:28:41 ... 00:29:04 !glasses 00:29:05 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 00:29:06 hrm, I'm going to have to rename targetter_jump to targetter_shadow_step or something 00:29:09 I wonder what this makes disjunction by that logic 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1071-gce57c8d: Replace LAST_FORM with NUM_TRANSFORMS 10(5 days ago, 5 files, 12+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce57c8db3493 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1072-g6b03970: Add hydra form 10(5 days ago, 8 files, 121+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6b03970100cf 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1073-g65eea95: Cleanup cleaving checks 10(2 days ago, 5 files, 32+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=65eea9567031 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1074-g3484e0e: DEVOUR THY FOES 10(2 days ago, 4 files, 145+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3484e0edc791 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1075-ge3e130f: Export NEVER_CORPSE_KEY 10(24 hours ago, 5 files, 10+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3e130f0b7e5 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1076-g33397f3: Export hydra form heads 10(24 hours ago, 2 files, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33397f301506 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1077-gda423f4: Chop off some hydraform heads 10(23 hours ago, 4 files, 166+ 72-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da423f4344db 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1078-gb9e60bd: Add Hydra Form spell 10(5 days ago, 7 files, 40+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9e60bd8b5d0 00:29:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1079-g2c63740: New spellbook: the Fen Folio 10(7 minutes ago, 7 files, 24+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c637406c7fa 00:29:21 blinknado 00:29:23 obv 00:29:24 gammafunk: I thought you weren't gonna rename jump attack until I fell asleep? 00:29:36 rename? 00:29:42 er, remove 00:29:44 I'm going to rename it alright 00:29:49 ah dang 00:29:51 stupid 00:29:53 stupid cats 00:30:00 why are they so stupid 00:30:04 :3c 00:30:24 can we feed the cats to the hydras 00:30:28 oh. where did we stand on wandcost vs wandcost2 00:30:35 gammafunk: rude imo 00:31:16 well elliptic and I agree that wondcost2 (at least I think it's that one) 00:31:22 er wandcost2 00:31:24 -!- CtrlQ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:31:27 is the better approach 00:31:28 yesssssssss 00:31:43 -!- ctrlq_ is now known as CtrlQ 00:31:50 I'm not sure about ev. else though 00:31:59 ev. else? 00:32:01 oh, everyone 00:32:16 note to self, fen book vault 00:32:31 never_corpse_key 00:32:36 that one is going to haunt me 00:32:46 what does it mean?! 00:32:47 gammafunk: ? 00:32:49 oh 00:32:55 haha 00:33:12 |amethyst: my save compat solution was BOOK_WAR_CHANTS = BOOK_FEN, btw (after removing all the other BOOK_WAR_CHANT code, besides the save-compat stuff in tags.cc) 00:33:22 probably didn't warrant this buildup but I felt pleased with myself 00:34:12 ...hrm, what in the world would antaeus get for a book 00:34:27 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:35:54 LIGHTNING BOLT s/FLASH_FREEZE/BOLT_OF_COLD/ LOL I'M ANTAEUS 00:35:55 I guess 00:36:05 PleasingFungus: btw when do we get 00:36:13 "eaten by a seven-headed hydra" 00:36:18 as a death message 00:36:32 ha 00:36:42 when someone implements it! 00:37:50 Antaeus (11C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 22 | HP: 700 | AC/EV: 28/4 | Dam: 7512(cold:22-65), 3012(cold:22-65) | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 10elec++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: flash freeze (3d29), b.lightning (3d25) | Sz: Giant | Int: high. 00:37:50 %??antaeus 00:38:02 I mean, my current approach here is "one iconic spell as possible, weirdly split two-school randbook spell focus afterwards", and I've already got ice/air for lom 00:38:33 (eurgh, will have to use summoning three times then) 00:38:39 um 00:38:47 antaeus feels like more of a hybrid IE to me 00:38:52 if that makes any sense 00:39:04 1learn add Antaeus[1] 1d75 + 1d30 +22-65 + 22-65 MELEE/ICE DAMAGE, 700 HP, 28 AC, FLASH FREEZE, BOLT OF LIGHTNING LOL HI I'M ANTAEUS 00:39:05 he feels like he's the sort of guy who'd be casting ozo's and cshield, if he were a player 00:39:30 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-1080-g33be25f: make ufetubi explode 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 17+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33be25f15edd 00:39:30 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-1081-g1c6a78a: make ^Q also quit from the character selection screen 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1c6a78a36307 00:39:33 ice / charms it bloody is 00:39:33 clearly antaeus should have ozo's and flash freeze 00:39:45 ... 00:39:47 hahaha 00:39:50 doy!!!! 00:40:13 well, you sounded like you were in favor of the idea 00:40:16 and i certainly am 00:40:19 so 00:40:21 (: 00:40:23 I was in favor of the *idea* of ufetubi exploding 00:40:25 (^: 00:40:26 haha 00:40:38 like, aside from being horribly weak, the beam_frag is also quite distracting because it's a lot of message spam with no real effect 00:40:51 well, it can certainly be tweaked 00:41:09 clearly they should pop a round of firestorm on death >:V 00:41:28 the discussion was about making them explode into (not damage probably) 00:41:50 obviously they should explode into clouds since those also do no damage 00:41:51 tbh I think this is rash and I'd like to roll it back. 00:42:25 aw 00:42:31 I wonder what happens if I just replace that with beam_slow 00:42:37 plenty of time until 0.16 is released :) 00:42:39 plenty of time for explosions 00:42:47 -!- Infamy1 has quit [Client Quit] 00:43:09 imo meaty explosions of gore from vulgar displays of transmutation power are preferrable explosions 00:43:26 oh 00:43:37 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-1082-g42b7bd3: Revert "make ufetubi explode" 10(in the future, 2 files, 0+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=42b7bd35e725 00:43:40 ty for quick action, doy 00:43:49 in the future 00:43:50 (in the future 00:43:58 i do think that something along those lines is a good thing though 00:44:05 because ynoxinuls are really just irritating 00:44:06 PleasingFungus: how many rings does op hydra form get 00:44:13 I think it's two 00:44:13 two, right? 00:44:39 spamming 5s is not particularly interesting, and it also blocks them from using iron shot 00:45:02 i do agree that the implementation may not be particularly ideal though 00:45:22 Here's what to do: 00:45:30 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 00:45:33 1) make ufetubi explode in a way harmless to the ynoxinul 00:45:48 I don't think anyone's a fan of current ynoxinuls/ufetubi :) 00:45:49 2) have ynoxinul not care about shooting their own ufetubi 00:45:56 and/or deliberately target them 00:46:03 ha! 00:46:09 poison 00:46:11 poison ufetbi 00:46:20 ynoxinul (113) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-47 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 12 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 213 | Sp: iron shot (3d16), sum.ufetubus | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:46:20 %??ynoxinul 00:46:26 elec 00:46:27 obviously 00:46:41 or as bcadren would say, 'ghostly flame' 00:46:53 elec would be too similar to summon ball lightning, probably 00:46:53 also remember the ynoxiwhatthefuckisthatname are sometimes allies 00:46:57 I already made the ghostly flame joke :( 00:47:18 ??lesser servant 00:47:18 lesser servant[1/2]: Summons a temporary orange demon, ynoxinul, neqoxec, hellwing, or smoke demon. Hostility chance is reduced (but never to 0) by invocations skill. 00:47:22 plah 00:47:36 let's be fair, who uses lesser servant 00:47:37 go hard or go home 00:47:43 gw does!!! 00:47:47 well, and summon demon 00:48:03 and technically shadow creatures but that's in pan 00:48:07 yes, but summon demon's issue cvan't be fixed by replacing a choice :P 00:48:44 I used lesser servant the last time I played makh. it was better than I remembered 00:48:47 I'm not sure what that means, but look I'm not saying you can't have exploding uftebwhat 00:48:51 it's not like summon spells being able to bean you isn't something new, anyway 00:48:58 spellforged servitor can own you with your own spells if you're not careful 00:49:02 just that it's something to keep in mind 00:49:07 when designing exploding things 00:49:11 yeah 00:49:17 !lg * ckiller=spellforged_servior 00:49:17 No games for * (ckiller=spellforged_servior). 00:49:18 er 00:49:20 !lg * ckiller=spellforged_servitor 00:49:21 14. Whiny the Eclecticist (L15 DEEn of Sif Muna), blasted by a spellforged servitor (spray of energy) (summoned by the player character) on Shoals:3 on 2014-09-21 01:18:24, with 101593 points after 72030 turns and 7:39:37. 00:49:26 14 deaths, good 00:49:29 !lg * ckiller=spellforged_servitor s=ckaux 00:49:30 14 games for * (ckiller=spellforged_servitor): 4x orb of destruction, 3x fireball, 3x spray of energy, 3x wavering orb of destruction, iron shot 00:49:36 lots of iood 00:49:36 sigh, now I am imagining af_explode for purple uglies 00:49:58 The purple ugly thing hits you. You explode! 00:50:16 did I write into my notes "use blue instead of purple and give them af_drown" 00:50:17 fedhas has spores too 00:50:52 no I didn't, adding that now 00:51:44 -!- secularist has quit [] 00:52:37 I guess cyan isn't blue 00:52:45 sort of 00:52:45 of course it's not! 00:53:06 didn't we just have that conversation earlier today 00:53:13 yeah 00:53:40 brown very ugly things are yellow, I think there's no way to win here 00:54:10 man 00:54:13 console sounds fucked up. 00:54:22 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:55:08 256color when 00:55:11 :) 00:55:13 well, U is free these days 00:55:25 nnnnnnn 00:55:28 ahahaha 00:58:14 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1082-g42b7bd3 01:03:24 does anyone have opinions about op ringmelding in forms 01:04:38 getting the "one ring for each neck" joke out of the way 01:04:59 interesting ring-wearing strategies 01:05:20 was talking with cr*te about it in ##crawl ; he argues that op rings shouldn't meld 01:05:53 crate isnt in here, its ok 01:06:01 and that it makes the forms that meld op rings unusable for op (even when they aren't for other races) 01:06:08 simmarine: I just thought it was funny to call him that 01:07:40 op get extreme value from statueform anyway, so 01:13:20 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:13:28 -!- CtrlQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:14:40 -!- hypermat1 is now known as hypermatt 01:15:10 -!- SakuyaIzayoi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:16:09 -!- Kramin42 is now known as Kramin 01:17:47 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:18:56 -!- theTower has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:20:55 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:23:07 -!- HonestMoneyLende has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:29:14 -!- hypermatt has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:29:21 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-1083-g6a3eec8: Fix a sign comparison (gammafunk) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a3eec870c0d 01:30:03 -!- hypermatt has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:42 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:16 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:40:01 -!- mkbehr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:42:45 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:45:24 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:47:24 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:51:20 -!- Zanziabar has quit [Client Quit] 01:52:40 New branch created: cocfreeze (1 commit) 01:52:41 03PleasingFungus02 07[cocfreeze] * 0.16-a0-1084-g2f7b735: Disable potion drinking in Cocytus 10(2 hours ago, 7 files, 58+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f7b7359a91d 01:52:58 "more crawl light stuff" 01:52:59 I think I want to rewrite that entire implementation 01:53:01 it's so bad 01:53:03 simmarine: is it? 01:53:06 yes 01:53:08 huh 01:53:14 and no scrolls in gehennom 01:53:16 i don't think I knew that 01:53:19 oh, I wouldn't do that 01:53:26 ...wait, that's the nethack area 01:54:59 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:55:23 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:57:29 -!- getdunked has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:01:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 35.0a1/20140913030206]] 02:05:19 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:10 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 02:10:19 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11:27 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13:43 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:17:15 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:17:37 -!- Kashira has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:17:37 tonio213 (L17 MiDK) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p)) || mons_is_player_shadow(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 543 failed. (Swamp:5) 02:18:19 -!- Taraiph has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:19:36 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:20:23 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-1083-g6a3eec8 (34) 02:23:29 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:24:11 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:31:31 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:47 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:34:08 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:40:49 -!- Amnesthesia is now known as Amnesthesia|Else 02:56:48 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:01:40 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:05:34 -!- braveplatypus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:09:41 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:14:11 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:25:39 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:36:21 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:55:43 -!- 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05:56:43 possible lamp of fire bug 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9022 by Patashu 05:58:12 -!- pantaril_ is now known as pantaril 05:59:54 oh I had a fun idea brought on by mild insomnia 06:00:10 give Might to Executioners as an escape spell 06:00:21 possibly make them useful against high AC types 06:00:47 * Grunt tries to go back to sleep. 06:10:46 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:11:42 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:46 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:25:30 it looks like 'You have identified the last potion.' is broken in 0.16 06:25:36 on my 'items not yet recognized' menu I only have decay left 06:27:28 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:36:02 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:40:03 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:32 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56:38 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:13 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:59:36 -!- 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##crawl-dev 09:33:41 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:34:47 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:35:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35:18 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzwecha 09:36:30 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:40:57 -!- dck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:47:47 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:47:58 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:52 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:57:43 -!- frank2368 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:57:55 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:01:56 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:17 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:05:29 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:52 -!- Mazed has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:08:42 PleasingFungus: when you switched Ring of Vitality to Amulet of Vitality, did you switch all existing rings of vitality to amulets of vitality? 10:08:59 I already answered this yesterday 10:08:59 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:09:02 oh 10:09:11 let me pull up the logs 10:09:12 I ask because I'm wondering if I should do the same thing w/ my hat of the alchemist swap 10:09:20 oh, for you, absolutely 10:09:28 for me it was a terrible mistake 10:09:35 but you're not changing item slots :) 10:09:39 true! 10:09:47 22:36:40 Lasty_: Existing rings of vitality became amulets, but weren't de-equipped. This causes crash bugs and was probably a mistake. 10:09:48 22:37:33 also their name didn't change since unrand names are saved & loaded (everything else about them is regenerated from scratch each time) 10:09:50 22:37:43 so they're amulets called rings that crash if you take them off 10:09:51 But I am probably going to make a few games-in-progress very, very sad 10:09:51 22:38:12 I did explicitly test vitring but I didn't test it well enough! 10:10:01 trunk unreasons 10:10:02 Oh, I missed those messages. Sorry! 10:10:17 it's aight, I should have !told you 10:10:24 Lasty: yes, I'm not sure whether it is actually a good idea to give players -6 AC on transfer 10:10:27 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:10:31 'zactly 10:10:34 Lasty: I'd just say do whatever is easier codewise 10:10:48 Well, swapping them to the new, worse hat is easier, but meaner 10:11:15 well, I wouldn't worry about it if that is the "default" thing to have happen codewise when an unrand is changed 10:11:27 I just wouldn't make a special effort to make it happen 10:11:30 gotcha 10:11:32 ditto 10:11:34 I think it is very silly to keep "old hat of the alchemist" and "new hat of the alchemist" around as separate items in the code 10:11:40 PleasingFungus: definitely 10:11:40 true 10:11:44 I don't want to do that 10:11:54 then, upgrade time 10:11:58 <|amethyst> one problem is that the unrand will keep the old name 10:11:59 'upgrade' :) 10:12:05 yes 10:12:06 <|amethyst> there's probably a way to change that 10:12:12 yeah it's an annoying behaviour 10:12:13 <|amethyst> I mean, existing ones 10:12:29 remind me, are you actually renaming it? 10:12:32 yes 10:12:49 rip the alchemist 10:12:49 the Hat of Complete Protection, I think. 10:12:54 <|amethyst> ah, you'd change item.props[ARTEFACT_NAME_KEY] 10:13:02 purpyduyusei (L27 GrWr) ASSERT(m) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1969 failed. (Zig:8) 10:13:08 honestly I sort of prefer just keeping the name 10:13:11 yeah 10:13:14 oh, really? 10:13:14 <|amethyst> !crashlog purpyduyusei 10:13:14