00:08:22 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-957-ge5d9b6b (34) 00:18:54 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-957-ge5d9b6b (34) 00:29:44 !bug 9000 00:29:45 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9000 00:29:48 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:29:58 lmfao 00:39:20 good mantis 00:41:51 I'm rotting for no reason 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9002 by nubinia 00:47:58 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-957-ge5d9b6b 00:48:07 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:50:05 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 00:55:02 -!- mong has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:55:37 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:55:54 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:29 -!- AnnoyedKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:00:43 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:27 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 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Connection reset by peer] 02:09:06 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:09:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:12:47 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:14:10 why didn't he use the infamous pink bikini panlord tile instead 02:19:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-957-ge5d9b6b (34) 02:22:47 -!- sgun_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22:47 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22:48 -!- tlocalhos has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22:52 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:23:14 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 02:29:17 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 02:29:34 -!- titanjones has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:34:40 -!- rchandra is now known as rctest 02:36:06 -!- rctest is now known as rchandra 02:39:45 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:43:24 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 02:52:18 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 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-!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:47:57 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:50:27 Ru continues to offer over-valuable sacrifices 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9004 by rchandra 04:01:07 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:22:58 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:00 -!- Earlo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:29:22 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:51:09 changelog bug: zig:27 is referred to as the "top" floor 04:51:22 -!- teflonbiscuit_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:52:46 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:02 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:56:12 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 04:56:26 Delayed Fireball unmemorizable 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9005 by rchandra 04:58:21 -!- Miauw has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:59:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:02:10 -!- Kashira has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:04:53 -!- tabstorm has 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05:33:18 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:38:46 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:34 re 9005, in conclusion, abolish case/switch 05:54:17 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:02:36 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:44 -!- Yermak_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:04:58 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:06:37 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:06:43 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06:52 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:20:58 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:54 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:31:57 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:35:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:39:32 -!- interdiction has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:40:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:51 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 06:46:00 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 06:51:34 -!- Pratfall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:52:57 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:53:29 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:32 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 07:06:49 -!- Calisca has quit [Client Quit] 07:09:57 -!- FShckAway is now known as FatShack 07:19:10 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:24:09 rewriting monster_senior 07:24:14 // Geryon really profits from *not* pushing past hell beasts. 07:24:16 if (m1->type != MONS_GERYON) 07:24:17 return false; 07:24:28 took me a while to figure out why nothing was working 07:24:56 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:30:24 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:12 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:39:33 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:42:10 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 07:43:37 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:46:26 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:55 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:56:18 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:14:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:14:29 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:30 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:21 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:37 Is there any way to get the new monster AC/EV bars to ignore sleeping/para/petr/webbed statuses? 08:26:07 Any of those will cause them to display as 0 EV, which is misleading (even if temporarily true) 08:26:11 <|amethyst> magicpoints: we were trying to decide what to do there 08:26:23 <|amethyst> magicpoints: my thought is to display both "natural" and "current" ev 08:27:01 also I can now hard confirm that constriction lowers enemy EV 08:28:17 :) 08:29:09 |amethyst: until someone implements that, do you think it would be better to just use EV_IGNORE_HELPLESS? 08:29:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-961-g20bf334: Refactor 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20bf334866d8 08:29:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-962-gf357c03: Rework monster_senior 10(50 minutes ago, 1 file, 34+ 44-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f357c03b8313 08:29:49 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-963-g495b91e: Rework _mons_has_smite_attack and monster_shover 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 49+ 41-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=495b91e3a456 08:30:46 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that also hides the constriction and grasping roots reduction 08:31:09 ah, so it does 08:31:10 hm 08:31:15 obviously monster_senior shouldn't be symmetric, though possibly it should be anti-symmetric 08:32:31 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:33:33 yeah, poor phrasing there, sorry 08:33:39 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:36:11 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:40:00 <|amethyst> asymmetric, not antisymmetric 08:40:04 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:29 <|amethyst> since a monster isn't senior to itself 08:40:52 well, the argument is that if a is senior to b, b should probably not be senior to a 08:41:06 <|amethyst> that's asymmetry 08:41:16 asymmetric sounds like it would mean the opposite of symmetric; i.e., since symmetric means a->b b->a, asymmetric means a->b b MIGHT -> a and might now 08:41:19 s/now/not 08:41:42 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-964-gecb6e73: Very slightly refactor. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ecb6e73aba15 08:41:45 yeah, asymmetric sounds a bit less specific than what I'm talking about 08:42:18 <|amethyst> oh, right, words have meanings outside technical jargon :) 08:42:50 <|amethyst> The jargon being asymmetric = antisymmetric and irreflexive 08:43:44 <|amethyst> "Not guaranteed to be a strict partial order, though it probably should be." 08:44:02 wheals: <3 08:44:57 -!- CacoS has quit [] 08:46:49 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:50:59 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:51:54 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:53:46 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:57:23 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:58:15 -!- Calisca2 is now known as Calisca 09:01:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:44 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:02:02 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-965-ga362962: Refactor you_can_wear 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 67+ 52-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a3629627bdac 09:02:17 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:52 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:10:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:14:31 -!- tls9540 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:14:46 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:18:01 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:19:47 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:20:46 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:22 so, triple swords 09:26:51 triple swords 09:38:32 what is the plan for triple swords 09:39:06 afaik no one is against changing them back 09:39:08 so someone just needs to do it 09:39:11 back from what? 09:39:21 bastard swords & claymores? 09:39:27 that is, renaming them back 09:39:54 double and triple swords? 09:40:31 yes 09:41:22 "These multiple swords were an insult to anyone with the slightest clue about how RL weapons work." 09:41:24 dang 09:42:05 I love that commit message so much 09:42:38 %git 8182b86 09:42:38 07PleasingFungus02 {wheals} * 0.15-a0-434-g8182b86: Rename the bow of Krishna to the longbow of Vishnu 10(5 months ago, 8 files, 17+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8182b86013c6 09:42:44 ^ commit message 09:43:02 haha 09:43:29 (and then it got reverted because it turns out that krishna was the right name after all, but w/e, so it goes) 09:43:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus means "because I got told by greensnark" 09:43:52 <|amethyst> :) 09:44:06 oh no! You pinged the snark! 09:44:11 bastard -> double, claymore -> triple? 09:44:22 <|amethyst> what about the numbers? 09:44:28 the numbers weren't changed 09:44:33 well, they were, and then they were immediately changed back 09:44:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:44:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:54 I mean, the acc/dam numbers etc. obviously the number of blades changed 09:45:21 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:45:22 <|amethyst> oh, they were 09:45:51 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 09:45:55 <|amethyst> two months later, though, not immediately 09:46:07 oop 09:46:12 was it at least a mpa commit 09:46:21 <|amethyst> %git 09b9c0f 09:46:21 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-2625-g09b9c0f: Change claymore to old triple sword stats. 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09b9c0f59ba4 09:46:27 rip my memory 09:46:40 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:49:52 -!- sanka_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:50:34 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:51:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 35.0a1/20140911064110]] 09:53:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:45 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:12 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-966-g739c3b2: re-insult anyone with the slightest clue about how RL weapons work 10(16 minutes ago, 65 files, 117+ 117-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=739c3b2d43d8 10:04:14 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:04:39 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 10:12:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:25 well, that was easy 10:14:11 someone should probably poke the tiles 10:15:26 though it's a pity to lose those nice new claymore/bastard sword tiles... 10:16:05 also, er, the descriptions 10:16:33 ah, yeah 10:16:36 should probably revert those too 10:20:27 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20:38 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:21:14 I kinda hope the plutonium sword's new tile doesn't change though 10:21:21 I like the 10:21:37 I like the big square anime buster sword look of it 10:21:55 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:03 yeah I think the unrands can stay 10:25:11 -!- ElanMorin has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:53 Though plut sword's description maybe shouldn't call it a triple sword if it's to keep the buster sword look 10:26:15 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:27:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: zzzzzz] 10:28:13 !source dat/descript/unrand.txt 10:28:14 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/unrand.txt;hb=HEAD 10:28:17 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:28:25 ah, so it does 10:31:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:40 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34:17 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:35:12 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:35:41 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:36 <|amethyst> unrands can be a "claymore" 10:38:42 <|amethyst> maybe even give it the 20/20 10:38:52 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39:22 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:39:24 sure 10:39:27 well, the claymore name 10:39:42 not totally sure if it needs to have its stats tweaked 10:39:46 !source itemprop.cc 10:39:46 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/itemprop.cc;hb=HEAD 10:40:12 +14 is already pretty strong, I think 10:41:33 though I mean you could also change that but at a certain point, it's like, why? 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ZZZzzz…] 12:55:00 -!- Orphic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:58:18 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:58:30 -!- SomeStupidGirl is now known as SomeStupidGuy 13:01:39 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:52 -!- Amnesthesia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:05:28 -!- zero_one has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06:46 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:16 -!- johnny0_ is now known as johnny0 13:15:59 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 13:16:56 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20:39 -!- tswett has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:11 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:28:30 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:53 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 13:32:07 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:28 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:20 flying skull (16z) | Spd: 15 | HD: 7 | HP: 15-28 | AC/EV: 10/17 | Dam: 14 | 07undead, evil, lev | Res: 06magic(28), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 228 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 13:37:20 %??flying skull 13:37:22 reaper (152) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 57-96 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 45 | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1483 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 13:37:22 %??reaper 13:37:29 guardian mummy (08M) | Spd: 8 | HD: 7 | HP: 37-53 | AC/EV: 6/9 | Dam: 30 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(46), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 329 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 13:37:29 %??guardian mummy 13:39:32 -!- rphillips has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:44:02 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:50 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:48:04 -!- drke has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:49:49 wow 13:50:01 lang = grunt and those new enemy bars are weird 13:50:03 AC ++!!!!!! 13:50:24 haha 13:50:32 well, the important information gets across 13:52:05 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52:33 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:52 goood 13:53:40 !tell grunt I fixed your fannar code :) 13:53:40 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let grunt know. 13:54:05 * wheals opens PleasingFungus like a pillowcase with a glowing triple sword!!!!!!!! 13:54:54 Rude. 13:55:05 sorry 13:55:14 It's okay. :) 13:55:53 How well does a pillowcase with a glowing triple sword open? 13:56:06 i don't know how it even wields one 13:56:23 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:56:52 magic 13:59:38 soon you'll be able to set your player tile to that of a glowing ....well I guess a glowing claymore 13:59:38 gammafunk: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:59:40 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:57 Don't know if any triple swords are still in the tilesheets 14:00:09 -!- trane has quit [Client Quit] 14:00:23 Can I set my player tile to be an exploding fireball? (moot point, I don't use tiles) 14:00:46 Lasty_: yes you will be able to, and thanks be being mlg cool console pro coolplayer 14:00:56 s/be/for/ 14:01:12 !lg . word won 14:01:13 1. gammafunk the Petrodigitator (L27 GhEE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 5 runes on 2013-07-03 04:08:37, with 2319064 points after 132910 turns and 19:15:35. 14:01:15 I do it for the children 14:01:19 !lg Lasty won word 14:01:19 No games for Lasty (won word). 14:01:29 word? 14:01:32 !kw word 14:01:33 Keyword: word => char=dear|deck|demo|desk|dram|fear|foam|ghee|gram|hack|haen|hear|heck|hehe|hewn|hoar|hock|homo|hone|huck|husk|mien|mine|muck|musk|open|spam|spar|spas|teak|team|tear|teas|teen|tram|tree 14:01:37 haha 14:01:38 ??coolplayer 14:01:38 coolplayer ~ coolplayers[1/2]: Players who have won at least one combo that makes a word online in 80x24 console using vikeys or arrows+numrow or an external numpad. 14:01:39 ah 14:01:44 Lasty_: elite membership 14:01:51 ??coolplayers[2 14:01:51 coolplayers[2/2]: I am a coolplayer so, how do we edit those? 14:01:57 haha 14:02:11 someone really needs to purge all of these gammafunk learndb entries 14:02:15 I use an affixed numpad, so I'm not eligible 14:02:15 grunt has created a monster 14:02:21 .....UG!! 14:02:39 Of course, no one knows. Until now. 14:02:59 People who don't use vikeys...I can't even them 14:03:05 Does someone seriously use arrows + numrow?! 14:03:30 That sounds like the worst conceivable option 14:03:44 magicpoints used to play I think entirely with the numrow 14:03:53 We made fun of her at every opportunity 14:03:59 even that seems better (though still terrible) 14:04:33 !nick coolplayers 14:04:34 Mapping coolplayers => birdoprey theglow hyperbolic hyperelliptic elliptic minmay elynae mikee xomscumming tartakower nyaakitty casmith789 demonblade poncheis valrus n1000 sgrunt chris gammafunk 14:04:44 numrow? That's pretty hardcore 14:05:03 gammafunk: Does she play with some other configuration these days, or did she stop playing? 14:05:25 magicpoints uses a reasonable scheme these days, since new computer I think, and yeah 14:05:29 !hs * Op-- 14:05:30 145597. magicpoints the Petrodigitator (L27 OpAs of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-08-28 07:02:22, with 37179957 points after 39341 turns and 10:25:53. 14:05:40 (I think that was post-numrow) 14:07:12 !lg coolplayers / won 14:07:13 1411/44390 games for coolplayers: N=1411/44390 (3.18%) 14:08:10 Bogus mgrd (36, 36) pointing to DEAD MONSTER not in any vaults. 14:08:10 Monster pointed to not in any vaults. 14:08:10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 14:08:15 now there's a good message 14:08:43 (see bug 9001) 14:08:54 !bug 9001 14:08:54 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9001 14:09:00 also maybe add to it since that message is a little different 14:09:20 johnny0: was that zig no. 1 for you? 14:09:24 yes 14:10:02 i'm surprised that it was the first mantis issue with "Bogosity" in the text 14:10:48 did the level generate properly after reload? 14:10:48 or have you not tried 14:11:27 the level generated just fine here 14:11:31 well, the level generated properly, i saved, backed up the saved, and promptly died 14:11:36 it just printed a funny message 14:11:37 haha, nice 14:11:59 yeah it's almost certainly hangedman's recent zig changes 14:12:10 Zig level generation problem 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9007 by Yermak 14:12:10 "properly" as in i could safely save and quit 14:12:16 well 14:12:21 looks like maybe you're not alone 14:12:28 heh 14:12:39 from a git blame it looks like those checks were added in 2009 14:13:08 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:13:11 yeah but this error is very likely due to a recent change 14:13:25 the checks were added then, but what's failing the checks probably changed 14:13:26 yeah, just surprised these are the first mantis reports with "bogosity" 14:13:53 might take a look at it after I finish this present for Grunt 14:14:44 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:20:23 -!- Miauw__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:48 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:30:55 -!- feefifofum has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:31:58 -!- mp[away] is now known as magicpoints 14:32:29 Casting clouds of buggy goodness 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9008 by roctavian 14:34:39 -!- Philonous has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:42:38 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:43:43 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:51 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:06 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:22 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:56:14 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:57:46 -!- drke_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:20 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:00:12 Asmodeus (04&) | Spd: 10 | HD: 17 | HP: 450 | AC/EV: 30/7 | Dam: 50 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.fire (3d26), hellfire (3d20), fire summon | Sz: Large | Int: high. 15:00:12 %??asmodeus 15:05:21 -!- syllogism has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:11:28 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:18:51 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:20:15 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:21:40 -!- Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:21:52 huh 15:22:13 Sleeping monsters don't have an EV bar in x-v. 15:22:20 (or rather it's all dots) 15:23:04 presumably reflects their paralyzed EV 15:23:16 in that sense it's accurate but misleading, i guess? 15:23:20 yes 15:23:23 yeah we were talking about it earlier 15:23:39 the thing is you kind of need to completely rewrite the way monster ac and ev is handled to get a better display 15:23:49 maybe I'll do that tonight 15:23:49 butts 15:23:55 or 15:23:58 more hydra form.... 15:24:03 imo more hydra form 15:25:01 both are good 15:25:35 oh, re information leaks: I'm like 90% sure the monster MR display also leaks info (and already did so before I changed it to a bar) 15:38:12 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:43:16 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 15:46:28 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:47:09 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:47:43 !tell ontoclasm less OP shoulders https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/scalemail12.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/scalemail22.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/scalemail32.png 15:47:44 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 15:48:39 Crash on Arena when Cerebov fights vs greater mummies 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=9009 by darksab0r 15:52:20 -!- ElanMorin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 15:55:32 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:56:51 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 15:57:09 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:24 !source spl-miscast.cc:130 15:57:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-miscast.cc;hb=HEAD#l130 15:58:03 Heh, "you feel extremely nervous", eh 15:59:18 -!- FatShack is now known as FShckAway 16:01:04 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:14 !blame wheals 16:03:14 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 16:03:42 !tell wheals 9009 is almost certainly yours 16:03:42 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 16:06:26 -!- Monkaria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:12:25 -!- RedWarrior0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:13:49 -!- CacoS has quit [] 16:15:32 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:15:56 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-967-g37ceb3c: Don't crash on arena curses against team friendly (#9009) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=37ceb3cf76fa 16:16:05 <|amethyst> !tell wheals fixed 16:16:05 |amethyst: OK, I'll let wheals know. 16:18:47 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15.1-3-g1b33baa: Don't crash on arena curses against team friendly (#9009) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1b33baabc9c5 16:18:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:19:16 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0.3/20140923175406]] 16:19:57 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:52 wow, monster coloring is messed up 16:21:04 we save the monster color in the map knowledge 16:21:05 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:21:16 ah ha ha 16:21:25 so even if you override color, any monsters created before your change your settings 16:21:29 will always have the old color 16:21:34 hm 16:21:35 %git :/riple 16:21:35 07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-640-ga68d18e: Fix monster orb of electrocution using one die, not three dice 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a68d18e1795d 16:21:35 permanently, until they die 16:21:39 gammafunk: I hope this means you are going to fix that bug that means that monsters sometimes have the wrong color 16:21:40 %git :/riple sword 16:21:41 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-2625-g09b9c0f: Change claymore to old triple sword stats. 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09b9c0f59ba4 16:21:47 %git :/riple [Ss]word 16:21:47 07elliptic02 * 0.14-a0-2625-g09b9c0f: Change claymore to old triple sword stats. 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=09b9c0f59ba4 16:21:47 simmarine: the commit message is completely useless 16:21:53 elliptic: hrm, what's the conditions for that? 16:21:55 i was lied to then 16:22:01 as in, when does it occur? 16:22:09 %git :/insult 16:22:09 07doy02 * 0.16-a0-966-g739c3b2: re-insult anyone with the slightest clue about how RL weapons work 10(7 hours ago, 65 files, 117+ 117-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=739c3b2d43d8 16:22:10 gammafunk: nobody knows (or at least I don't and the bug has been around for years) 16:22:14 ^ 16:22:24 elliptic: well, it's probably related to us saving monster color like that 16:22:28 something something "misleading commit messages" 16:22:41 gammafunk: you just occasionally run across a monster with the wrong colour and it is very confusing until you realize this 16:22:46 yes 16:22:47 yeah that sounds like it's incredibly ripe for trouble 16:22:54 i think its a vault only thing "hth" 16:22:57 death to state 16:22:59 for glyphs, we always check the symbol monster table, which is recreated upon game resume 16:23:00 green stone giants 16:23:20 that is a good commit message btw 16:23:21 well one thing is I don't know if this is somehow necessary 16:23:34 saving monster color like that, I mean 16:23:50 I *think* you can get any color information you need by just checking the monster state 16:23:52 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:24:22 <|amethyst> gammafunk: what if its colour was set by a vault? 16:24:29 ah 16:24:42 heh, vaults can set colors, not glyphs? 16:25:25 I see, yeah it's so you can make vault defines that are tweaks of basic monsters, and color is "more important" for that 16:25:36 since the resulting monster is not likely to need a glyph change 16:26:10 THANK YOU 16:26:10 <|amethyst> I wouldn't mind seeing a glyph: tag on monspecs, but of course that requires saving the glyph with the monster too 16:26:36 |amethyst: my guess is you'd have to like dynamically update the monster list, and marshall it? 16:26:43 I wonder where else monster glyph is relevant to game logic 16:26:45 I know it comes up in pan 16:27:32 <|amethyst> Does speech count as game logic? 16:28:25 ehh 16:28:27 does speech interact with this problem anyhow? iirc it does a lookup on the name of the mosnter 16:28:28 I guess 16:28:37 no there's speech that depends on glyph 16:28:41 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:44 I believe 16:28:44 oh I see 16:28:52 -!- Leox has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29:20 <|amethyst> stupid vs smart depends on shape and in one case on base char 16:29:30 <|amethyst> that's also used only in mon speech I believe 16:29:48 <|amethyst> !source mon-speak.cc:700 16:29:48 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-speak.cc;hb=HEAD#l700 16:29:59 <|amethyst> !tag mons_has_body 16:30:16 <|amethyst> !tag monster::hand_name 16:30:56 <|amethyst> I think demon tier is the only thing that still depends on letter and actually affects the outcome of anything 16:31:12 <|amethyst> the rest seem to be all about messaging 16:31:33 grepping for mons_base_char? 16:31:35 ug, yeah and because of that vault define thing and the fact that I only have a monster_type as a basis for the glyph override 16:31:42 I can't fix this problem for mon_glyph 16:31:46 <|amethyst> grepping for base_\?char 16:31:51 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:33:00 well it fixes it for the player, at least, and the monster glyph itself is updated properly, it's just potentially the color that's wrong 16:33:37 -!- effractur has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:37:53 <|amethyst> you could do something where usually you write a colour of -1, which means to look it up in the glyph table 16:38:22 hrm, so vault defines would set it to a real value 16:38:41 s/real/positive/ 16:38:59 <|amethyst> in that case I would consider renaming monster::colour and maybe making it private, and always using a method to read the value 16:39:42 <|amethyst> would probably have to do something similar to monster_info_base 16:39:44 monster::colour? 16:39:58 oh, weird 16:40:34 god, and where is that copy of the color used 16:41:11 <|amethyst> the one in monster_info_base is used in the derived monster_info class 16:41:21 <|amethyst> which is used for player knowledge of monsters 16:41:33 <|amethyst> likely drawing the map uses that 16:41:37 yeah 16:42:01 <|amethyst> and that one is just set from the monster's colour 16:42:06 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:42:07 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:43:10 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:06 !source dat/descript/monsters.txt 16:44:06 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt;hb=HEAD 16:44:19 yeah that's a reasonable solution; mon_glyph overrides of vault-define monsters still won't work, but that's obviously no problem 16:44:21 oh, iron dragons aren't literally made of iron 16:44:26 the more you know 16:44:30 was gonna ask why they aren't lrd vulnerable 16:44:44 what are you, some kind of dragon biologist? 16:46:37 apparently 16:46:48 0.16 will have 22 new types of dragon armour 16:46:54 a whole rainbow of armours 16:47:01 <|amethyst> komodo dragon armour 16:47:20 bone dragon exoskeleton 16:47:28 <|amethyst> (can we rename those to 'monitors'?) 16:48:53 i know there've been proposals for shadow dragon armour before 16:49:06 what if it existed as a heavyish armour option that didn't have stealth penalty? would that be at all interesting? 16:49:07 im sad every time i don't get iron/bone/shadow da 16:49:16 i'm guessing it's a pretty minor use, but it would be something 16:49:44 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:20 idk, I'd use some kind of heavy dragon armour with slth++ 16:50:58 joking aside, I don't think more dragon armours are necessarily a bad idea 16:51:17 shadow dragons come late enough that it would suffer from the same relevancy problem as gda, i would think 16:51:38 shadow and bone and iron and quicksilver 16:51:49 and I think I might be missing one 16:51:56 <|amethyst> SoH 16:52:16 some kind of heavy equivalent to faerie dragon armour from SoH would be cool 16:52:28 now that it's actually dangerous, might be a nice enticement to murder 16:54:35 <|amethyst> Xtahua armour: like FDA, but also lets you destroy doors by walking into them 16:54:53 heh 16:55:02 that would probably not be an upside 16:55:18 purgy leather armour: like troll leather armour, but also gives frail 3 16:55:24 <|amethyst> presumably you could still do o if you wanted to open the door the slow way 16:55:30 <|amethyst> err, O 16:55:31 -!- Replop has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:56:49 -!- stanzwecha is now known as stanzill 16:57:09 wow, nice interface screw!!!! 16:57:16 <- fun hater #1 16:57:37 <|amethyst> yeah, I was just thinking that it's an interface screw except in rare situations 16:57:54 <|amethyst> running away from a monster into a corridor with a door at the end 16:58:30 -!- SakuyaIzayoi has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:40 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:58:51 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:01:07 -!- derGrimnebulin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:03:14 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:04:24 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:14:24 -!- SageGrimm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:15:26 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:05 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:53 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:13 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: schnarch] 17:25:41 #9008 is presumably my fault too 17:26:40 !lg * won s=place 17:26:40 22163 games for * (won): 22163x D:$ 17:27:01 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-967-g37ceb3c (34) 17:27:14 i wonder if it would make more sense for that to be D:0 17:27:22 !lm * place~~$ s=verb 17:27:23 Type mismatch: s=verb in 'place~~${s=verb}' 17:27:27 !lm * place~~\$ s=verb 17:27:27 Type mismatch: s=verb in 'place~~${s=verb}' 17:27:30 !lm * place~~'$' s=verb 17:28:06 11343340 milestones for * (place~~$): 5050267x uniq, 2064156x br.enter, 729502x begin, 694882x br.end, 648649x ghost, 615950x god.worship, 456776x br.exit, 260859x rune, 139405x zig, 130420x god.maxpiety, 104696x abyss.enter, 92375x abyss.exit, 87533x shaft, 48331x br.mid, 44192x zig.enter, 37233x death, 29558x god.renounce, 22984x orb, 18180x monstrous, 16525x god.mollify, 16118x uniq.ban, 10380x... 17:28:08 that won't do wat yoy hope 17:28:09 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 17:28:16 yeah, presumably takes it as special 17:28:20 !lm * place~~'\$' s=verb 17:28:20 8 milestones for * (place~~\$): 8x crash 17:28:25 !lm * place~~'\$' s=noun 17:28:26 8 milestones for * (place~~\$): 8x ASSERT(old level.depth != -1) in 'files.cc' at line 1191 failed. 17:28:33 !lm * place~~'\$' s=place 17:28:34 8 milestones for * (place~~\$): 8x Spider:$ 17:28:36 regex metacharacter, so matching any milestone with a place associated 17:28:44 since all of them would have an end-of-string 17:28:50 ha, i guess that was from getting to Bug 17:29:16 anyway, i guess not worth changing since there'd have to be Sequell changes to update the old games 17:30:10 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:04 I found a use of a second person pronoun in a monster's desc 17:31:23 A bone dragon. A huge undead abomination, pieced together from the broken bones of many 17:31:23 dragons by powerful necromantic magic. Fortunately for you, whatever organ 17:31:23 produces a dragon's fearsome breath was lost in the process. 17:33:13 too bad PleasingFungus only cares about the first person 17:33:26 -!- stumps has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:33:30 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:33:53 not so fortunate for you if it's friendly, though 17:34:08 Unfortunately for you, it does not feel pain unlike live dragons. 17:35:41 Unfortunately for them, they rarely exist anymore 17:36:41 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:36:41 rip 17:38:26 PleasingFungus: so you made that code 17:38:28 !glasses 17:38:28 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 17:38:28 cooler 17:38:29 ??? 17:41:57 PleasingFungus: I suggest generalising to "summoners hide behind their summons" as the easiest general case to implement, but I can foresee that getting extremely aggravating if everyone does it 17:42:07 perhaps a M_COWARDLY_SUMMONER or similar 17:43:10 btw when do we get M_SPELL_SPAMMER 17:43:26 (fr give it to Gloorx in addition to Lom so Gloorx is scary again) 17:45:28 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:53:04 <|amethyst> Grunt: we don't, because that should instead be a flag on the spell slot 17:53:27 <|amethyst> I guess M_SPELL_SPAMMER would be a decent stopgap though 17:53:49 <|amethyst> (also give that to hellhounds etc so they can have a book) 17:56:11 hmm 17:56:15 gravity hounds 17:56:51 I think cowardliness should most likely be a monster parameter 17:57:11 right now it's determined by spell, but that's really weird; should e.g. ice fiends *really* be hiding behind imps? 17:57:17 Ice Fiend (161) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 78-121 | AC/EV: 15/6 | Dam: 2512(cold:18-53), 2512(cold:18-53) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 2892 | Sp: b.cold (3d27), s.torment | Sz: Large | Int: high. 17:57:17 %??ice fiend 17:57:37 that sounds like a good vault 17:57:43 2x 18-53 ac-ignoring damage is too great a gift to waste, imho 17:57:53 but because they have torment, they're cowardly 17:57:58 hmm, except that abyss smiterflies thing already exists 17:58:29 anyway 17:58:45 i really don't like how tormenting things prefer to torment you instead of punching you dead, yes 17:59:00 a very bloax twist 17:59:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:59:12 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 35.0a1/20140930030202]] 18:03:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:05:14 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:06:51 FR: rot doesn't cause the HP bar to split over two lines in webtiles 18:06:55 ^ 18:07:52 good 18:08:06 |amethyst: another interim idea would be to assign monsters a "spell-casting frequency" to replace HD in that particular formula 18:12:35 -!- SomeStupidGirl is now known as SomeStupidGuy 18:13:33 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:13 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:52 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:20:25 <|amethyst> magicpoints: it's easy enough to keep it from line-breaking, but unfortunately that just makes the number overlap the HP bar 18:20:39 clearly time for More Fonts 18:21:28 or just rename health to Hp: 18:21:28 <|amethyst> if you save and restart (hit reload) it will change the width 18:21:35 <|amethyst> It says "HP:" 18:21:43 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:24:57 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:25:47 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:26:25 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:28:44 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:32 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33:09 -!- RedWarrior0 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:34:36 hm. any idea where the code is that makes merfolk players fast in water? 18:34:45 I tried and failed to grep for it earlier 18:34:50 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten] 18:35:09 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:16 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: else if (you.fishtail) mv = 6; in player_movement_speed 18:35:25 ahhh 18:35:27 tyvm 18:37:03 <|amethyst> That's another of those things that probably has no business being stored in the player 18:37:07 -!- irlitg has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 18:37:29 yeah the state there scares me 18:37:48 did you know that hp regeneration is stored in the player 18:37:59 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-968-g5b2392f: Add a bow of Krishna quote (roctavian) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b2392fcb54c 18:38:05 and that mp regeneration is stored in player-reacts 18:38:35 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:53 <|amethyst> Bloax: in player-reacts? 18:38:59 yes 18:39:08 right in the "give mp" loop 18:39:44 see line 1230 in player-reacts.cc 18:40:00 <|amethyst> that's a temporary value, I wouldn't call it 'stored' 18:40:06 yeah that's not what we're talking about 18:40:07 <|amethyst> also it does the same thing with HP further up 18:40:10 though it is weird 18:40:17 <|amethyst> also, that number doesn't measure your regen rate 18:40:25 <|amethyst> it's the percent of a HP you have regenerated 18:40:28 <|amethyst> or an MP 18:40:54 <|amethyst> it's stored in the player so regen is mostly deterministic even if it doesn't work out to an even number of HP a turn 18:41:00 <|amethyst> likewise MP 18:41:09 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:41:16 oh wow 18:41:19 i am very stupid 18:41:42 !source spl-clouds.cc:173 18:41:42 well either way it's really nice that there's a code split like that 18:41:43 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-clouds.cc;hb=HEAD#l173 18:41:44 <|amethyst> maybe it should be named something that indicates its scale 18:41:49 PleasingFungus: check that out 18:41:59 makes it pretty difficult to dig up 18:42:08 wheals: !!!! 18:42:16 goodbug 18:42:19 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:27 also Death To Switch Statements 18:42:49 gotta love languages designed in such a way to make expressing the wrong thing as easy as possible 18:42:53 (hi PHP!) 18:43:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-969-g7a02233: Restore old tuple sword descriptions 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a022337e2b1 18:43:08 <|amethyst> Patashu: "local" in Perl 18:43:24 gotta give the user enough robe to hang themselves 18:43:27 |amethyst: haven't used perl, what's it like? 18:43:28 <|amethyst> Patashu: granted, "my" is shorter, but definitely not intuitive 18:43:32 and then have them balance on a lopsided chair 18:43:50 probably known as the code syntax 18:43:54 <|amethyst> Patashu: Imagine if someone took all the languages you know and mashed them together 18:43:55 Patashu: to be fair, c was designed to make writing a compiler as easy as possible 18:44:04 PleasingFungus: sounds righ 18:44:07 making it easy to shoot yourself in the foot was a side benefit :) 18:44:08 <|amethyst> Patashu: also imagine that person is an amateur linguist 18:44:21 <|amethyst> Patashu: and doesn't like typing any more than necessary 18:44:28 that sounds 18:44:30 bad 18:44:37 perl is an experience 18:44:47