00:00:05 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:00:37 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:01:37 <|amethyst> johnstein: might just be feasible in webtiles 00:02:02 <|amethyst> don't think it's really possible with dgamelaunch unless we rewrite that to work more like webtiles 00:02:07 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-784-g771f783 (34) 00:02:39 it would be a cool feature I think. 00:02:45 <|amethyst> since in dgamelaunch people are just watching ttyrecs live 00:02:57 yea 00:04:58 -!- bcarpe211 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:07:20 -!- domiryuu has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:09:45 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 00:17:29 -!- geedmat has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:59 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-784-g771f783 (34) 00:19:54 implement that and also a bug where it lets you quaff/read the player's items TIA 00:23:48 amazing how beautiful this is with default offsets: http://i.imgur.com/41joopl.png 00:28:54 read: would you get the effect in your game, or would the player get it in theirs? 00:29:23 did the green death tile always look like a pig 00:29:33 not sure 00:29:43 been that way since 0.10 iirc 00:29:57 or I should say at least 0.10 00:30:04 since I don't recall ever seeing another version 00:30:36 its mouth looks really weird there, but I wonder if it's something with the staff 00:30:47 also adorable, obv 00:30:54 that's its tongue 00:30:56 sticking out 00:31:03 which is why that's one of the best tiles 00:31:15 I really miss the old sgd icon 00:31:26 with its silly head popping up through the demonic gate 00:33:51 <3 00:35:38 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-785-gb563233: Properly reinitialize tile_player_tile when the value changes in-game 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b56323356fcc 00:35:56 there, when that is updated on cszo, 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http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/random-var.cc;hb=HEAD#l256 09:11:28 teleport control as one of the special cased good ring types is rather outdated too 09:14:33 !source random_var 09:14:33 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/random-var.cc;hb=HEAD#l7 09:14:47 I may have found the bug... 09:14:50 <|amethyst> you're looking at the wrong random2 09:14:59 you sure? 09:15:13 I can't find a random2 with two args? 09:15:26 there are 1 arg and 3 arg ones 09:15:37 <|amethyst> why are you looking for a two-arg version? 09:15:57 256 random_var rv::random2(int n) 09:15:57 257 { 09:15:57 258 return random_var(0, max(n, 1)); 09:15:57 259 } 09:16:06 because it is called with two args 09:16:09 <|amethyst> that's one argument 09:16:12 <|amethyst> random_var rv::random2(int n) 09:16:18 <|amethyst> but it's the wrong random2 09:16:21 oh, I mean random_var 09:16:32 oh, where is the right one? 09:17:09 <|amethyst> !source random.cc:136 09:17:10 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/random.cc;hb=HEAD#l136 09:17:12 <|amethyst> which calls 09:17:22 <|amethyst> !source random.cc:118 09:17:22 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/random.cc;hb=HEAD#l118 09:17:29 <|amethyst> but I think I see the problem 09:17:38 yeah lol 09:17:42 haha 09:18:12 <|amethyst> hm, or maybe not 09:18:39 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:37 <|amethyst> oh, yeah 09:19:52 hi 09:20:00 <|amethyst> %git aa3c11ae 09:20:01 07wheals02 * 0.16-a0-625-gaa3c11a: Make rings less likely from acquirement if you only have one hand. 10(9 days ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa3c11aefca4 09:21:29 -!- stoictaste has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見å‚ï¼] 09:21:32 -!- nnmap has quit [Client Quit] 09:22:25 result = (one_chance_in(ring_num + 1 ? get_random_amulet_type() 09:22:25 : get_random_ring_type())); 09:22:28 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:38 something is wrong here :P 09:22:49 <|amethyst> yeah 09:23:02 <|amethyst> about to push, but doing a refactoring commit too 09:23:21 ah, missed that 09:23:28 when I first looked 09:25:09 !source one_chance_in 09:25:10 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/random.h;hb=HEAD#l163 09:28:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-786-g377f46f: Allow jewellery acquirement to grant more than regen and protection. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=377f46f14375 09:28:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-787-g31dbbe7: Lift and constify. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31dbbe7ecfe3 09:28:49 <|amethyst> Kramin, jeanjacques: good catch 09:28:56 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:45 yeah, we both were acquiring only regen rings 09:29:55 although I didn't notice it 09:30:02 until he mentioned it 09:31:24 <|amethyst> maybe in that second commit I should have made it just - player_mutation_level(MUT_MISSING_HAND) 09:31:36 -!- Elias_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:31:42 <|amethyst> that way if we at some point allow sacrificing two hands it will still work :) 09:31:48 Now I want Octopodes to be able to sacrifice up to 7 hands 09:32:06 for ~ 490 piety. 09:32:16 <|amethyst> Lasty_: might help with that trove :) 09:32:20 haha 09:32:25 imo add octopode auxiliary attacks first 09:32:34 "Sacrifice how many hands? _" 09:32:48 sacrifice tentacle 09:32:54 you sacrifice your left hand, your right hand and your dignity 09:32:55 it is I hope 09:33:06 Giving piety troves to Ru worshippers is really mean. 09:33:21 don't worry 09:33:23 piety troves? 09:33:25 Kramin: Not yet. It's kinda tricky to get that to work 09:33:25 it's not like it'll be trove_garden 09:33:33 (of course it will) 09:33:41 <|amethyst> %git 97dfbf9 09:33:41 07nrook02 {wheals} * 0.16-a0-761-g97dfbf9: Add troves that, when entered, steal your piety. 10(6 months ago, 2 files, 49+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=97dfbf900879 09:33:43 <|amethyst> Kramin: ^^ 09:34:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:12 <|amethyst> (written 6 months ago but it was just committed last week) 09:34:48 that would be cheap for some gods 09:35:34 well, I guess it's all the way to zero is it? 09:35:38 just like slime trove and shop troves :) 09:36:01 it's not all the way down to zero 09:36:07 oh 09:36:19 otherwise you'd get penanced due to excommunication 09:36:24 that's what the message seems to say 09:36:31 <|amethyst> it's down to 15 09:36:51 right, so to level you are at when you join, basically? 09:36:56 ontoclasm: what's the status on plate pickup tiles 09:36:59 yep 09:38:43 huh, that's the second ternary bug wheals has introduced in a week 09:39:00 ternary operator considered dangerous, but especially for him, I guess 09:39:29 there are two obvious solutions, but they are both wrong 09:39:43 !tell wheals a + b ? danger : beware!!! 09:39:43 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 09:40:17 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:42:22 <|amethyst> rchandra: disallow conditionals and require the code to always do the same thing regardless of context? 09:42:40 <|amethyst> I guess we could still allows 'while' loops, maybe 09:42:45 <|amethyst> s/ows/ow/ 09:43:05 that solution is less obvious, so it's probably the right one 09:44:02 <|amethyst> ooh, I know: make one_chance_in return the number that it rolled rather than just 1 09:44:18 heh 09:44:29 that's what I thought it did for a bit 09:45:09 That being said, seriously, displaying monster AC and EV in monster descriptions is a good idea. They're directly comparable to the player versions, so it's not like they're just basis-less numbers being thrown at the player. Moreover, it is actually useful: a player might choose to adjust their tactics if faced with an unusually evasive or armored enemy. It's not always obvious which... 09:45:11 ...monsters are above-average for these stats (particularly with EV). 09:45:12 Spell lists were recently added to monster descriptions because it's just something people would need to look up otherwise. AC and EV would seem to fall in the same category. 09:45:16 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7589 this is interesting 09:45:22 the comment, I mean, not the patch 09:45:53 PleasingFungus: monster EV is not directly comparable to player EV 09:46:00 checks against it use completely different formulas everywhere 09:46:11 <|amethyst> I think using a description would be fine 09:46:20 <|amethyst> "slightly" "very" etc 09:46:22 a description would be fine, but not a number 09:47:16 <|amethyst> Actually, I think using a description would be good 09:47:17 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:47:24 <|amethyst> better than the current situation 09:47:40 <|amethyst> where people instead come to IRC or go to the code and look up the numbers 09:48:12 monster AC numbers might also be misleading I guess, since player damage/HP and monster damage/HP aren't really on the same scale 09:48:32 so 15 AC isn't a huge amount for a player but is a ton for a monster 09:49:16 descriptions for either one seem uncontroversial though 09:49:28 well 09:49:29 actually 09:49:31 I was thinking of a bar 09:49:39 EV: ++--- 09:49:58 since the trend in general has been away from words, and for good reasons 09:50:10 but yeah, showing the raw numbers is not so great an idea 09:50:19 bar might be better than words, yeah 09:50:56 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 09:52:03 That patch also included HD, apparently. I wonder if it *would* make sense to display that, even as a number: "Level: 30". (since player level is in fact what it's closest to...) 09:52:22 that seems bad to me 09:52:35 HD: ++++++++++++------------ 09:52:40 <|amethyst> we use the numbers in player-visible ways already 09:52:43 inside the game, there is no way of knowing what that number affects 09:52:43 <|amethyst> not frequently, but 09:52:49 and what it doesn't 09:52:51 yeah, that's true. 09:52:53 <|amethyst> how is someone supposed to know whether dragonbane will level up? 09:52:59 <|amethyst> err, wyrmbane 09:53:05 and I don't want to try to explain that to players. 09:53:18 and stuff like 09:53:20 boggart (06g) | Spd: 12 | HD: 4 | HP: 12-28 | AC/EV: 0/12 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(37) | XP: 117 | Sp: shadow creatures, invisibility, blink | Sz: little | Int: normal. 09:53:20 %??boggart 09:53:26 but it is a core mechanic; it feels only fair that we expose it in some way without spoilers; for example, it'd be nice for people using /poly. 09:53:26 level 4, can't possibly be dangerous! 09:53:29 well 09:53:33 we still have the bright red danger bar 09:53:35 or w/e 09:53:55 right, I'd rather just stick with the threat level stuff 09:53:59 though I guess a boggart is hardly ever going to show up red or even yellow there, either. 09:54:07 if poly mechanics are really an issue, we can change them to be more reasonable :P 09:54:15 suggestions? 09:54:20 based on xp? 09:54:24 I'd be sad to have AC/EV go non-numeric for two reasons: 1) I've already got good heuristics for what the numbers mean, and 2) I'd have less of a sense of when to stop training Dodging/Armour 09:54:31 Lasty_: monster ac/ev 09:54:43 Oh. :p 09:54:43 Lasty_: monster descriptions only :) 09:54:47 "ring of choko evasion" 09:54:48 we're not talking about player ac/ev, nor should we, I hope! 09:54:51 In that case, no probs 09:55:03 This armour gives roughly as much protection as a sultana. 09:55:04 rchandra: basing poly on monster xp might work, yeah 09:55:21 <|amethyst> that's kind of difficult to do 09:55:22 Sonja (05K) | Spd: 14 | HD: 6 | HP: 30 | AC/EV: 2/24 | Dam: 9, 5, 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(8) | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 293 | Sp: blink, 04esc:teleport self | Sz: small | Int: normal. 09:55:22 %??sonja 09:55:22 would probably break shapeshifter vaults, but what *doesn't* break those 09:55:37 <|amethyst> since you'd have to create all the possible monsters to check their XP 09:55:40 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 27-52 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 09:55:40 %??yak 09:55:45 <|amethyst> I guess we could make XP not depend on maxhp 09:56:12 <|amethyst> and store everything needed to calculate it in the monster_entry 09:56:23 alternatively if xp is too complicated then I was thinking that using HP might be okay 09:56:26 er, MHP 09:56:37 |amethyst: isn't mhp easily computable, at least the average? 09:57:31 alphabetical polymorph, choose the monster f(power) after the current alphabetically 09:57:39 japan update 09:57:41 Today I implemented /meta/ , /morgue/ and /rcfiles/ directory on my site. Please make sure that. 09:57:42 Sorry to have kept you waiting. 09:57:44 - http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/meta/ 09:57:45 - http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/morgue/ 09:57:47 - http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/rcfiles/ 09:58:14 dang, it's so fancy! 09:58:39 I am legit mad jealous 09:58:40 anyway I don't think that poly being weird is a great reason to display HD on its own, and there aren't that many other things that use HD directly rather than MR 09:58:50 a few hex-type things 09:59:07 and the player really won't know which ones use MR and which ones use HD anyway 09:59:33 Even if we display HD for polymorph, players would have to look up the other monsters with similar HDs. It's pretty hard to keep track of them all. 09:59:38 yeah :( 09:59:39 <|amethyst> maybe meph should use MR 09:59:39 -!- tonio213 has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:00:05 <|amethyst> I mean, I can see the argument for having a variety of measures for whether a spell will affect someone 10:00:16 <|amethyst> but to have that variety and not tell the player about it... 10:00:26 <|amethyst> it's pure spoiler material 10:01:02 |amethyst: yeah... I could see making "non-magical" things like meph check HP or something instead, but checking HD really isn't great 10:01:16 (players at least learn about monster HP by hitting things) 10:02:54 PleasingFungus: so does japan want to be on sequell/CAO scoring page? 10:03:13 elliptic: they want to be an Official Server, yes (we suggested it to them and they were into it) 10:03:16 cool 10:03:21 which is why we had them make those pages public 10:03:23 do you know whether they are saving ttyrecs? 10:03:51 let me see if I asked 10:03:52 if not that's fine, they do get large so it is understandable if they don't want to 10:04:08 but that would be something else to make available to sequell if they are 10:04:29 looks like I didn't ask 10:05:31 I guess this server is tiles-only too? so they might be less interested in ttyrecs 10:06:30 anything else I should ask/tell him? (it seems like it would be useful to mention *how* to save ttyrecs, if he wanted to...) 10:06:42 but if they are tiles-only and you ask them about ttyrec, you might mention that it allows their games to be replayed in some fashion 10:06:58 sure 10:07:00 so ttyrecs aren't only useful if they run dgl 10:07:27 anyway /meta/ /morgue/ /rcfiles/ should contain all the stuff needed for scoring pages, tourney, non-ttyrec sequell functionality 10:09:02 (I don't know how saving ttyrecs actually works, only that it happens sometimes :)) 10:10:13 hahaha 10:10:14 is ddo it's "official" abbreviation? 10:10:16 pinging |amethyst 10:10:19 ??ddo 10:10:19 I don't have a page labeled ddo in my learndb. Did you mean: cdo, dd, dda. 10:10:33 ??dda 10:10:34 fire dragon armour[1/1]: 8AC, 11ER, rF++ rC-. 10:10:42 'dragon dragon armour'? 10:10:48 double-dragon 10:10:51 !!! 10:11:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you just set ttyrec_path in the game config 10:11:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: err, the webtiles config 10:11:43 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:11:57 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:12:27 Is there a default? 10:12:33 (where old ttyrecs might be?) 10:12:43 PleasingFungus: back when "fire dragon" was just "dragon", fda was dragon dragon armour 10:13:01 <|amethyst> double dragon 10:13:02 elliptic: ha, I guessed right! 10:13:12 <|amethyst> oh 10:13:15 <|amethyst> missed the scrollback :P 10:13:17 2slo 10:13:18 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: the default is in the config 10:14:06 So anything else for him to do besides settling on a TLA? 10:14:14 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: ttyrec_path = "./rcs/ttyrecs/%n" by default 10:15:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: 1. make it available over the web 2. it would be nice for both him and footv to compress them once they're not currently in use 10:15:04 ljp maybe? 10:15:25 <|amethyst> gammafunk: DDO :P 10:15:49 yeah was my guess, but I didn't know who owns the domain 10:15:56 <|amethyst> it's a dynamic IP provider 10:16:04 ah, makes sense 10:16:26 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:38 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:19 compress to what format? 10:17:47 bz2 10:18:45 regarding blowgun remove, just how am I supposed to spend my enchant weapon scrolls then! 10:19:42 blowgun remove? 10:20:00 blowgun removal, needles become something like darts, sorry 10:20:19 there's a thread about this on tavern with some not-crazy people posting in favor 10:20:21 ah, so poisoned darts would actually do something? 10:20:39 or you mean a new throwable type 10:20:41 yeah, needles become darts, and we keep the brands I guess 10:20:42 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:20:55 it doesn't seem like a crazy idea yes 10:21:02 the proposal was simply to keep needles as throwable items, so basically darts yeah 10:21:16 though I think you should inspect the people posting in favor for ashenzari biases 10:21:17 It's a potentially huge balance issue 10:21:28 not for Ash, but for getting access to needles in early dungeon 10:21:31 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:21:35 "Buffing Ash and distortion? I approve. 10:21:38 " -- Sar 10:21:40 heh 10:21:47 making needles always mulch -- or at least poison needles -- could offset it 10:21:49 Lasty_: yeah, definitely something to watch balance about 10:21:54 it'd be a huge nerf to as, I think 10:21:58 mm 10:22:00 maybe 10:22:01 that was kneejerk 10:22:06 PleasingFungus: depends on how it is implemented 10:22:14 yeah sorry I'm gonna retract that 10:22:32 always mulching needles just means that you should give As 4-5 curare instead of 2 10:22:35 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:41 always mulch seems unnecessary 10:22:42 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:23:02 if necessary can just decrease the numbers generated instead or increase mulch rate a bit 10:23:24 also might want to make poison "needles" less common in the very early game only 10:23:39 <|amethyst> I guess dispersal is always-mulch so that warpers don't have quite as much use for apportation off the bat? 10:23:43 but normal frequency later (when you would have been more likely to find a blowgun currently) 10:23:43 All those things would be good 10:24:14 but...my enchant weapon scrolls....what do I *use* them for? 10:24:32 read them so that your hands will glow bright red 10:24:36 oh wait that was removed :^D 10:24:44 In pre-Lair dungeon, almost everything scary can be killed with almost perfect safety w/ poison needles right now. Exceptions: fast zombies, green ugly things, ice beasts . . . 10:24:50 |amethyst: probably because arrows of dispersal are fairly ridiculous 10:24:51 I think dispersal is always-nerf because it's really really strong 10:24:53 yes 10:24:57 rather than darts 10:25:00 penetration is also really really strong right now 10:25:05 also originally dispersal didn't need to do damage to blink stuff 10:25:25 50 str 20+ fighting/throwing javelins of penetration mmm 10:27:04 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:27:07 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:27:37 <|amethyst> in general maybe mulch rates by ammo type should be reversed 10:27:45 <|amethyst> more mulching for bigger ammo 10:27:52 <|amethyst> now that weight doesn't exist 10:28:04 what about steel 10:28:51 <|amethyst> could keep its current effect, or nerf somewhat 10:29:06 <|amethyst> it's not like you'll encounter hundreds of steel javelins in one branch 10:29:28 <|amethyst> the way you can encounter hundreds of javelins (though maybe I'm exaggerating a little; didn't look at the item stats) 10:29:34 <|amethyst> ??item stats 10:29:34 I don't have a page labeled item_stats in my learndb. 10:29:35 <|amethyst> ??itemstats 10:29:35 I don't have a page labeled itemstats in my learndb. 10:29:37 <|amethyst> ??objstats 10:29:37 objstats ~ objstat[1/3]: Run with "crawl -objstat" in a full debug build of crawl ("make debug") to generate item/monster statistics by level/branch; see crawl -help for details 10:29:41 <|amethyst> ??objstat[2] 10:29:41 objstat[2/3]: Latest statistics: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7VXhHzhWWb7S282VWhLVWRXbG8&usp=sharing 10:29:47 no I was asking, like, should they have their mulch rate inverted too 10:29:56 (and suggesting 'yes') 10:30:08 <|amethyst> why? 10:30:13 right now they're just "x ammo but better AND mulch less often" 10:30:21 which is... actually also the relationship between tomahawks and javelins, etc 10:30:28 well if you don't worship a god that gifts ammo and don't get shoals, you won't find all that many of javs/tomahawks 10:30:54 it seems weirdly inconsistent to say "better throwing weapons should mulch more often, except if they're steel, in which case they're better AND mulch LESS often" 10:31:11 <|amethyst> I was just thinking of "mulch less often" as steel's thing 10:31:43 <|amethyst> didn't consider that they give +30% damage instead of +2 10:31:50 <|amethyst> and that we don't have vorpal ammo 10:31:51 it *had* three things: weighs much more, does more damage, mulches less often 10:32:32 <|amethyst> oh, and steel and launcher brand stack don't they 10:32:39 yep 10:32:49 <|amethyst> I'd rename them then 10:33:05 <|amethyst> because you wouldn't expect making something out of steel to make it less durable than wood or whatever 10:33:06 though arrows/bolts no longer have independent damage values (for sanity), so steel bolts now do... I think +3 base damage or something like that 10:33:08 mihril 10:33:11 ??steel 10:33:11 steel[1/1]: Ammo brand that does 30% more damage, is destroyed at one tenth the normal rate upon impact, and weighs three times as much as normal. Sorry, no steel arrows. 10:33:12 *mithril 10:33:15 ??bolt 10:33:15 bolt[1/1]: A certain type of projectile property that penetrates through enemies and reduces the remaining range by 1 (unless a lightning bolt) 10:33:19 mm 10:33:21 close 10:33:29 anyway, yeah, mithril could work. very tolkein 10:33:33 it's magically fragile! 10:33:37 <|amethyst> steel is +30% if there was already damage, otherwise +2 10:34:01 <|amethyst> s/already damage/projectile PWPN_DAMAGE/ 10:34:07 oh, I think I was going to change it to +3 after I realized that was closer to the old steel bolt thing and that steel arrows didn't exist. probably just as well I didn't, though 10:35:20 if mithril was magically fragile then it would make for garbage-tier armor 10:35:32 but i guess that's why you don't see crawlmithril armor in crawl 10:35:59 <|amethyst> so steel javelins get +3 base damage, bullets +1, everything else that can actually be steel +2 10:36:28 <|amethyst> (tomahawks more like 1.8 and bullets 1.2) 10:36:47 Large steel rocks. 10:36:56 <|amethyst> that would be +6 10:37:07 hooray for off-brand ammo 10:37:35 large rocks of dispersal 10:37:36 |amethyst: it rounds down, doesn't it? 10:37:41 * 13 / 10 integer? 10:38:19 poisoned large rock. I recommend you don't pick it up. 10:41:14 but it is not venomous 10:41:17 it can't bite me!! 10:41:29 and i don't feel like eating rock 10:41:39 until you get polymorphed into a xorn goodform 10:42:23 oh_no 10:43:17 I really wish Spatial Maelstrom Form wasn't an awful idea 10:44:06 don't we have wisp form 10:44:34 I was tossing around the idea of Goodforms a while back 10:44:43 and by a while I mean like two weeks ago 10:44:49 'like badforms, but good, instead' 10:44:58 Potion of Goodform 10:45:04 OoFForm 10:45:12 mainly they were for that nem card 10:45:13 hrm, maybe a form where you get blades for hands! Or you could turn into an ice beast! Or a dragon! 10:45:14 Acid Blob Form 10:45:16 just ideas 10:45:25 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:26 but I couldn't find the enthusiasm, since it was for a nem card 10:45:30 gammafunk: seems too weird. No one will go for that. 10:45:34 gammafunk: the problem is those are, as implemented, good forms if you're a uc character 10:45:38 but kind of bad otherwise 10:45:42 in most situations 10:46:02 I was thinking about forms with minimal drawback and big benefits (specifically suitable to limited-use effects, rather than spells) 10:46:02 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:46:30 yeah, provided it wasn't terribly easy to get 10:46:38 well. actually spatial maelstrom form was from an unrelated brainstorming session and was going to be a spell (if it wasn't such a bad idea), but w/e 10:47:30 so, uh 10:47:34 ??boulder beetle form?? 10:47:34 I don't have a page labeled boulder_beetle_form?? in my learndb. 10:47:53 boulder beetle form is a different category of tempform with more drawbacks. someday I'll get back to it, probably 10:48:01 it's basically statue form with less statue and more ROLLLLLL 10:48:10 the actual goodforms were crystal (resists), fastform (fast move), 'hindu avatar' (chance of repeating your base attack as an aux attack; lots of arms), lorocyproca form (perma-invis & antimagic), energy form (cast from hp+mp, mana shield, you know it's djinn form) 10:48:11 PleasingFungus: since you apparently like things that crash into things, try a lernaean hydra form 10:48:15 ha 10:48:34 I actually like that 10:48:51 hydra form 10:48:57 -!- foophykins has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:48:59 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:49:02 attack every tile around you 10:49:09 I already made it so you can play with the lerny tile, it's just the next logical step 10:49:55 honestly, hydra form sounds like a really fun spell 10:50:06 more power = more heads obv 10:50:29 lose all your heads, form ends 10:50:38 (this would never happen without someone trying) 10:50:44 I'll just remove "multi-headed species" from the won't-do list 10:51:03 pfeh 10:51:38 I'm gonna have to sleep on it to let enthusiasm subside, but I really, sincerely & unironically like hydraform. 10:51:38 obviously replace hobbits with hydramen 10:51:56 hydraform sounds pretty cool, yes 10:52:05 unarmed axes sounds sweet 10:59:38 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:02:44 dgn.set_random_mon_list() : number for hydra being discarded. 11:03:08 that was reported already, right? zig error 11:03:56 I don't remember seeing it 11:07:00 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:07:20 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:07:29 I saw it somewhere, but maybe it was just tavern. I'll mantis it (swamp zig) 11:07:32 ??mantis 11:07:33 mantis[1/1]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 11:10:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:18 sorry for bad subject line 11:11:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:15:20 error in ziggurat 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8989 by rchandra 11:17:01 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:18:41 ziggererror 11:22:07 my zig nr.5 early spider floor had a autofight error while it was too filled up 11:23:42 nice 11:23:44 stress testing! 11:26:57 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: bbl] 11:32:12 Unlinked temporary item: 11:32:12 stone 11:32:12 item #107: base: 1; sub: 5; plus: 0; plus2: 0; special: 0 11:32:12 quant: 1; colour: 6; ident: 0x00000000; ident_type: 0 11:32:12 x: 0; y: 0; link: 27000 11:32:16 what's this all about then 11:33:26 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:33:32 it triggers every time I enter tomb:3 11:33:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:35:05 Lua error: /crawl-svn-771f783/dat/clua/autofight.lua:235: bad argument #1 to_'process_keys' (string expected, got nil) 11:35:48 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:36:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:37:25 last time I had that it was from importing an orc slaying item, potatolizard. not an orc slaying (or other off-brand ammo) stone I assume? 11:39:06 uh, no idea 11:39:08 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:12 http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/perunasaurus-771f783-140926-1632.tar.bz2 11:40:02 yeah base type is ammo 11:40:06 let me see what subtype 11:40:26 apparently gozag turned every single pile of gold in tomb:3 to stones 11:40:29 that might have something to do with it 11:40:55 yeah it's a stone 11:41:44 oh it uh 11:41:47 says that it's a stone 11:44:11 Afay (L11 MiFi) ASSERT(in_non_diamond_int(r.start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 217 failed. (Lair:1) 11:45:30 ah, I think that's |amethyst's favorite bug 11:46:39 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:16 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:51:19 autofight broke on a filled up early zig floor 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8990 by jeanjacques 11:51:55 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 11:54:06 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:03 _dgn.set_random_mon_list() : number for hydra being discarded. 11:56:55 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:24 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:06:04 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:09:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 12:11:58 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-787-g31dbbe7 (34) 12:17:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:49 -!- ldf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:40 -!- agentgt has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 12:24:20 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:22 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:25:16 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:23 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:29:10 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 12:35:09 -!- Voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38:15 perunasaurus (L27 OpSk) ASSERT(!actor_at(newpos)) in 'spl-tornado.cc' at line 431 failed. 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Weaker than knight and mage versions. For the player species, see {vp}. 15:58:17 erg 15:58:20 @??vampire 15:58:20 vampire (05V) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-46 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 15, 1505(vampiric) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(48), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 213 | Sp: vampiric draining, confuse, invisibility | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:58:32 huh, i guess they don't fly after all 15:58:35 !tell bh It looks like 2a9ad8e (or maybe some nearby commit) turned off player ghosts in abyss 15:58:36 elliptic: OK, I'll let bh know. 15:59:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:59:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:03 !tell bh turning them back on doesn't seem to be as simple as removing the && !player_in_branch(BRANCH_ABYSS) check at files.cc:1192, but maybe you know what is going on? 16:00:04 elliptic: OK, I'll let bh know. 16:00:12 gammafunk: i'm about to push a vampire tile that can hold stuff better 16:00:20 if you want to revisit that one 16:00:26 ontoclasm: great 16:00:36 yeah I have some other offsets I will tweak 16:00:40 mostly ones I'm using 16:00:56 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:01:02 not that the sulking vampires weren't good or anything... 16:01:20 haha 16:01:52 i vant to suck your blooood but please don't look at my faaaaace 16:03:31 the imp tile is pretty adorable; the buckler looks like it's held up by telekenesis and I don't really want to change it 16:03:49 haha 16:05:56 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:07:42 ...wow i had never noticed how terrible sonja's tile was 16:07:48 i guess i never looked at it up close 16:10:27 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:09 I'd love to see something creative for the unborn tile 16:11:13 the current one is very DD 16:11:18 ??unborn 16:11:18 unborn[1/1]: A brown L that worships Yred and casts agony, dispel undead, injury mirror, animate dead, and haunt. 16:11:28 the new death knight tile is neat 16:11:40 clearly needs more giygas ripoffs 16:11:57 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:12:05 Bloaxzorro: too soon 16:16:03 every time I see that meatlord tile thing... 16:16:35 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Client Quit] 16:16:59 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:17:04 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:19:40 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 16:20:35 heh, me thinking C++ is python, trying to interchange ' and " for string usage 16:22:32 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:52 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:03 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:41:18 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:20 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:45:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:46 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 16:51:21 -!- SakuyaIzayoi has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:14 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:31 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 16:57:03 -!- hayenne has quit [Quit: There is no dark side of the moon really. As a matter of fact it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun.] 17:00:48 -!- derGrimnebulin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:03:31 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 17:04:09 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-787-g31dbbe7 (34) 17:05:12 -!- CacoS has quit [] 17:05:47 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:47 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 17:08:31 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 17:09:48 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:11:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:12:08 -!- jefkin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13:58 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-788-g248e4d4: Various monster tiles (roctavian, 8928) 10(10 minutes ago, 11 files, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=248e4d496790 17:14:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:14:36 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:16:57 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:17:34 <3 the new ice beast! 17:18:22 I cast ice beast...a lot, and although I don't look at tiles a lot when doing so, it's nice to see it have an awesome one 17:18:41 oh wow, that hellion tile... 17:18:56 the hellion face is awful 17:19:19 I was going to volunteer that Bloax will hate hellion 17:19:25 but I'm glad he just chimed in 17:19:42 mostly because i really don't like weird glowy single-tone faces 17:20:03 * ontoclasm looks at previous Duvessa 17:20:45 well the tile has maybe a bit too "cartoony" a feel for some a fearsome monster 17:20:46 well does that look like a DF tile 17:20:48 but it does work 17:20:59 s/some/such/ 17:21:26 the shadow demon def. looks like some kind of alien 17:21:46 I should use them on the moon wizlab 17:22:00 new kirke is v. good 17:22:06 -!- andrewhl has quit [Client Quit] 17:22:22 haha, sonja has a needle belt 17:22:24 good 17:25:00 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:26:04 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:27:41 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:15 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:45 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:48 -!- Pluie has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 17:36:49 !seen Napkin 17:36:49 I last saw Napkin at Thu Sep 25 14:50:32 2014 UTC (1d 7h 46m 17s ago) saying 'so'n quatsch ;)' on ##crawl-dev. 17:37:01 !tell Napkin Bilder sind auf dem Server. Tausend Dank!! 17:37:01 dpeg: OK, I'll let napkin know. 17:37:13 sauber! 17:37:13 Napkin: You have 26 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:37:24 Crawl Art on the CDO homepage has some new content, if you have some spare time. :) 17:37:43 -!- Pluie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:57 Napkin: schau es dir an, die Miniaturen sind unglaublich. 17:38:24 oh, cool! 17:38:43 note: no timestamps, revert sorting, dpeg 17:38:49 ;) 17:39:05 was heisst das? :O 17:39:43 ich denke, die "einträge" sollten timestamps haben, also datum 17:40:07 und die neuen sachen sind unten dran gesetzt - ich denke, neuer content sollte nach oben 17:40:08 ich kenne mich da nicht so aus 17:40:17 ah, das stimmt natuerlich 17:40:55 natürlich sehr coole miniaturen! 17:41:31 got to use vi on your server... makes for slow editing :) 17:41:47 only in the beginning ;) 17:42:02 I write my articles with emacs, don't think it'll change! 17:42:28 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: on y dort] 17:42:35 then us emacs instead! 17:42:38 :) 17:42:56 not possible!! 17:42:59 why not? 17:43:09 get the html file local 17:43:33 (win-)scp ist dein freund! :) 17:43:36 too much work... easier to learn vi then :) 17:44:06 hehe 17:44:53 <|amethyst> get sshfs :) 17:45:09 he's using windows sometimes, i think 17:45:40 <|amethyst> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Remote-Files.html 17:45:49 <|amethyst> can specify a remote file in emacs directly 17:46:03 ohoh, look at that, dpeg! :D 17:46:09 <|amethyst> though you'd need command-line scp on Windows probably 17:46:15 <|amethyst> the putty version might work 17:46:42 I am using putty to long into CDO, so I am then restricted to whatever the local console can run. There is vi but no emacs. 17:46:43 <|amethyst> It's been years since I used this, and it wasn't on windows 17:47:10 <|amethyst> dpeg: yeah, I was saying you could edit the CDO file on your machine directly without having to copy it around (at least not manually) 17:47:18 ah, I see 17:47:32 <|amethyst> but no idea how well it works on Windows 17:47:48 advanced technology... remember that I am also the guy who made a large number of Crawl vaults in Notepad :) 17:48:29 <|amethyst> everyone knows you should use TheDraw instead 17:49:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:49:08 <|amethyst> KFEAT: â•‘ = wall 17:49:17 <|amethyst> stone_wall rather 17:49:19 |amethyst will hold your hand, dpeg ;) 17:49:33 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:49:36 <|amethyst> I haven't used emacs for anything but my email in years 17:49:56 <|amethyst> I keep talking about switching to mutt, but never do 17:50:20 mutt is very nice 17:50:21 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:50:24 you'll love it 17:51:36 I thought everyone is using (al)pine? 17:52:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:52:39 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 17:52:54 -!- Bullock has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:52:59 -!- Plazmod has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:53:13 -!- Jho_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:21 -!- ibar has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:55:15 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:33 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:55:34 !seen gammafunk 17:55:34 I last saw gammafunk at Fri Sep 26 22:22:24 2014 UTC (33m 10s ago) saying 'good' on ##crawl-dev. 17:56:01 !seen dpeg 17:56:02 I last saw dpeg at Fri Sep 26 22:55:34 2014 UTC (28s ago) saying '!seen gammafunk ' on ##crawl-dev. 17:56:10 I agree with using mutt. 17:56:15 (I also use mutt!!) 17:56:31 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:57:14 Has anyone experience to compare mutt and alpine? 17:57:19 <|amethyst> I use vm-mode in xemacs 17:57:32 I used to use pine several years ago; does that count? :) 17:58:01 Grunt: yes! I'd like to hear what makes mutt better than pine. 17:58:55 dpeg: I don't remember enough pine to comment!! 17:59:22 quick online search indicates that people are unhappy with the pine license? 18:00:46 <|amethyst> that's what alpine is for 18:01:20 <|amethyst> it was it's pine rereleased under the apache license 18:01:28 <|amethyst> s/it was// 18:01:52 ah, I never knew 18:02:08 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:32 couldn't get all the features i wanted working with pine - but mutt was able to 18:03:42 you must be more of a power user than I am (and I use quite a lot of alpine) 18:04:05 Napkin: is this about configuring the interface? 18:04:09 multiple accounts and mail sorting to folders 18:05:11 but i'm with Grunt though - too long ago 18:05:49 I use folders but have never been schizo enough for multiple accounts... anyway, thanks for details, I learned something 18:09:46 -!- Big_guy has quit [] 18:09:55 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:16 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:11:32 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:11:38 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:02 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:14:12 -!- titanjones has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:16:42 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:20:35 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:40 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:21:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:21:47 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:22:45 -!- cribozai has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:26:36 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:37 -!- Amnekian has quit [Quit: Saindo] 18:34:49 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:35:23 -!- Jho_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:35:43 -!- Jho has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:37:13 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:41:39 mutt can do all sorts of fancy things. it's also got one of the most hideous user interfaces known to man, and its programmability is about on the same level of ugliness as vimscript 18:48:53 -!- Reverie has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:51:10 geekosaur: not sure if "most hideous interfaces" is intended as advertisement or deterrent, especially given your nick :) 18:54:15 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:54:42 let's put it this way. I'm willing to put up with things like vi and emacs that would drive most non-geeks to pico or sublime text or etc. 18:55:21 mutt would absolutely terrorize those non-geeks, and is rather hideous even for all but the most hardcore geeks. 18:57:28 is it dwarf fortress terrible or did the author pray to the dark lord for enlightenment upon this subject 18:57:42 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 18:58:42 never played df 18:59:05 maybe you should 19:00:16 heehee, first guide I look up that talks about using mutt with gmail has you install and configure offlineimap first. 19:00:19 NEXT! 19:00:37 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:01:07 life's too short (especially frrom the end I'm looking from) to deal with that kind of thing 19:02:13 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:32 (actually that was the second; the first linked to a .muttrc that 404d) 19:07:51 -!- hyperbolic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:13:40 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:35 -!- FShckAway is now known as FatShack 19:23:52 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:24:13 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:28:57 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:34:45 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 19:36:08 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:36:30 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:42 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 19:46:14 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:46:48 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:57 -!- flowsnake has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:04 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:16 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:52:13 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:38 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:02 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:18 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:59:01 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59:50 -!- hyperbolic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00:58 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:33 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:08:34 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:09:37 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:59 Deprived (L16 DsMo) (D:15) 20:12:04 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:13:58 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:24:17 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:26:15 -!- Zermako_ has quit [] 20:27:44 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:28:07 -!- RedFeather has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:51 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:37:26 -!- ChrisOelmueller has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:37:26 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:37:32 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:38:06 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:38:55 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:41:00 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:21 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20:54:42 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:55:32 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:07 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58:49 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:09 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:51 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:10:12 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:16:00 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:30 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27:46 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 21:28:34 -!- Jesse__ is now known as doubtofbuddha 21:29:30 !seen dpeg 21:29:30 bh: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 21:29:30 I last saw dpeg at Sat Sep 27 01:38:06 2014 UTC (51m 24s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 21:29:52 %git 2a9ad8e 21:29:53 07bh02 * 0.12-a0-2448-g2a9ad8e: Dungeon Levels in the Abyss 10(1 year, 7 months ago, 7 files, 188+ 42-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a9ad8e90899 21:33:00 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:35:17 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 21:36:12 !tell elliptic Pulling that line will definitely get ghosts back. I think there was some bug related rationale for putting that line in there, but I don't recall. Sorry it doesn't have a better commit message 21:36:13 bh: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 21:37:47 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:37:53 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:39:37 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:40:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:41:24 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:56:32 hrm. magicpoints suggested that we mirror dancing weapon tiles to distinguish them from floor weapons 21:56:59 bh: hm, I removed the line and made sure I had bones files and ran around and used wizmode detection for quite a while in abyss without getting a ghost 21:56:59 elliptic: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:57:23 elliptic: did you run the abyss load test? 21:57:31 no 21:58:23 it's entirely possible that that line was just a mistake 22:02:31 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:05:00 yet another reason I'd like code review 22:06:53 -!- ldf_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:12:17 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:50 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:24:18 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24:48 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:27 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:46 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:32 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:30:54 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:31:37 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:31:52 -!- raskol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:32:06 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:05 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:33:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:02 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:37:33 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:49 %version 22:37:50 trunk: 0.16-a0-784-g771f783; 0.15: 0.15.1-1-gfacfea3; 0.14: 0.14.2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 22:37:53 %git 22:37:53 07ontoclasm02 * 0.16-a0-788-g248e4d4: Various monster tiles (roctavian, 8928) 10(6 hours ago, 11 files, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=248e4d496790 22:38:12 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-789-g63e0f09: Fix tile_player_tile so that it can use all player tiles 10(4 hours ago, 4 files, 36+ 56-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=63e0f098a3f7 22:38:12 03gammafunk02 07* 0.16-a0-790-g150483d: Weapon and shield offsets for various monster tiles 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 195+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=150483d84610 22:39:23 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:48 gamma: have you done any tiles work? I'm wondering if I should add new tiles for dancing weapons or just flip the tiles programmatically 22:45:16 it uses the reverse glyph for weapons in console, does tiles just have only a hp bar to distinguish? 22:45:17 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:09 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:00 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:48:47 bh: I think we'd want to flip the images, but not even sure if they're separate tiles now 22:48:49 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:24 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50:02 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:12 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51:13 they aren't 22:51:29 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:54:06 dancing weapons just do a lookup on the item tiles 22:54:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:54:07 hrm, but the item tiles have gaps 22:54:07 wonder how that works 22:54:07 they have gaps for where they go in the player/monster doll 22:54:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:54:07 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:28 gammafunk: floor item, not held item 22:55:36 ah, ok 22:56:11 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [] 22:56:24 well flipping programmatically is more work since you'd have to basically send special json and updated the webtiles renderer 22:56:30 I guess it'd be through mcache 22:56:45 and then there's tiles code for the local client to do the rotations as well 22:57:07 ugh. if we'd have to do it for tiles and webtiles, I'd rather not go that route 22:57:11 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:57:17 quick and dirty way is to just make new images that are flipped 22:57:28 I guess a compromise is to have the sheet maker 22:57:44 make flipped copies of all weapon tiles that can become dancing? 22:58:05 mhmm 22:58:22 well get to it mr. google 22:59:07 :P 23:00:12 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Exit Stage Left] 23:00:44 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01:22 .crushed -tv 23:01:23 52. vogonpoet, XL21 DDEE, T:71316 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 23:02:09 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:02:56 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:00 -!- tswett_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:06:11 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:07:17 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:09:25 -!- ebarrett_ has quit [] 23:09:35 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:10:43 !crashlog Deprived 23:10:44 3. Deprived, XL16 DsMo, T:36365 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Deprived/crash-Deprived-20140927-011156.txt 23:10:44 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 23:11:17 !source mon-behv.cc:605 23:11:18 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-behv.cc;hb=HEAD#l605 23:12:15 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 23:12:18 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:36 okay, this function is way too long 23:13:46 but idk what to make of it getting SIGTERM in the middle. someone poking around crawl.s-z? 23:15:45 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:09 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:27:34 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28:30 PleasingFungus: that function is handle_behaviour, which is one of the central monster AI things, and yeah it's a nightmare to understand 23:29:31 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:31:21 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:31:26 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:12 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34:27 in this case I'm not sure if it's actually relevant to the crash, or if that's just where execution was when someone sent SIGTERM to the process. it's not clear to me how something there could cause SIGTERM 23:34:28 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:42 maybe something watching cpu load on cszo? 23:39:33 could be, yeah 23:40:42 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41:33 You feel your CPU is being watched by something. 23:44:26 -!- FatShack is now known as FShckAway 23:44:41 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:58 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:05 Your framerate leaks away! 23:45:27 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:45:43 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:52 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47:07 !send Grunt ghostmoth-themed kennysheep vaults 23:47:07 Sending ghostmoth-themed kennysheep vaults to Grunt. 23:47:38 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48:09 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:49:11 !send gammafunk very kennysheep things 23:49:11 Sending very kennysheep things to gammafunk. 23:51:53 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:22 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev