00:03:10 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72 (34) 00:04:11 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:15 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:06:16 ?/sshole 00:06:16 Matching terms (1): asshole 00:06:20 nope 00:06:36 !tell Grunt I just had the thought of giving mnoleg forceful dismissal somehow 00:06:36 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:06:42 ru[3/4]: Currently in experimental branch on CSZO. Formerly known as Iashol or I, Asshole. 00:09:05 ??ru[3 00:09:05 ru[3/4]: Ru has no wrath, but abandoning Ru doesn't undo your sacrifices. 00:09:37 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:48 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:57 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:22:10 -!- Orfax has quit [] 00:24:17 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:27:53 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:29:03 Phase shift doesn't increase EV for rMsl/dMsl deflecting-purposes 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8971 by Siegurt 00:33:22 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:38:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 00:40:00 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:46:54 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72 00:53:03 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:00:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:03:12 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:13:43 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15:16 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:53 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:26:21 -!- Pratfall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:33:34 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:13 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 01:37:28 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:43:01 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 01:47:52 -!- winsbury has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:49:58 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-622-g84b6425: Ru altar tile 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84b642524061 01:54:12 -!- sgun has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:02:15 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:02:35 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0.1/20140911151253]] 02:05:57 -!- Guest52432 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:10:18 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:18:53 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-622-g84b6425 (34) 02:24:36 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:01 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:29:55 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:42 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:02:45 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05:13 -!- namad7 has quit [] 03:05:45 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:12:30 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:14:24 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:17:21 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:17:32 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 03:31:17 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:41:23 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 03:42:38 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:01 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:51:11 killing a lich that is about to teleport causes to teleport to trigger immediately if there's a lost soul nearby, is that supposed to happen? 03:51:16 other buffs are simply removed 03:51:26 s/to/the 03:53:55 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:09:55 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:21:00 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:21 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:33:37 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:35:43 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:12 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:13 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:42:42 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:47:17 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 04:55:16 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 04:58:22 -!- kait has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:58:23 -!- Pluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:06:04 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:08:02 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:22 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:19:12 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:30:08 -!- narrower has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:33:15 03Medar02 07* 0.16-a0-623-g20b2139: Identify invis potion correctly even with halo (#8921). 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=20b213913d33 05:36:40 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:31 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:46:38 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:41 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:01 How OoD is a D:4 mottled draconian? 05:53:11 is that supposed to happen? 05:53:23 not dragon, draconian 05:55:04 turns out it's a shapeshifter 05:55:04 now it's a death yak 05:55:04 then it went grey drac->green drac 05:55:11 and now I'm on the next level 05:55:25 thanks devs for that horrifying experience 05:56:03 -!- Jho has quit [Client Quit] 05:58:27 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:06:35 -!- KROKI has quit [Client Quit] 06:09:43 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:12:07 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18:33 Ok, another thing: 06:18:34 You are now hated by all. 06:18:35 You hear a shout! x3 06:18:35 You hear a loud, deep croak! You hear an angry hiss. You hear a shout! 06:18:35 You hear a croak. x2 06:18:35 You hear a loud, deep croak! You hear a shout! You hear a shout! 06:18:35 You hear a croak. You hear an angry buzzing noise. 06:18:37 You hear an angry buzzing noise. x2 06:18:43 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18:47 is it supposed to do that? 06:18:58 Ru's sac love 06:19:25 This is Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.16-a0-617-ga3a77a9 06:19:34 CAO 06:20:08 should have the loudcrawl fix, right? 06:27:13 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:06 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:21 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:31:51 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:33:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:04 %git :/daction 06:33:04 07Grunt02 * 0.16-a0-603-g12f7cf7: Revert "(EXPERIMENTAL ONLY)Ru: Reverse DACT tags for Experimental save compat" 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=12f7cf7bf3d6 06:33:04 wheals: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 06:33:10 %git :/love 06:33:11 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-222-gd16465f: Enable acquirement rod sac-love check. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d16465f37f18 06:33:16 %git :/[Ll]ove 06:33:16 07|amethyst02 * 0.16-a0-222-gd16465f: Enable acquirement rod sac-love check. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d16465f37f18 06:33:18 hm 06:33:35 %git :/DACT 06:33:35 07elliptic02 * 0.16-a0-620-g6450424: Fix DACT_ALLY_SACRIFICE_LOVE being applied to monsters who are already hostile. 10(17 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6450424b2d5d 06:33:44 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:33:51 Kramin, you're on a version 3 commits before the bugfix 06:34:02 oh, ok 06:34:30 dunno if this means the daily updating on cao is not working, though 06:41:36 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:46:33 FiftyNine (L19 DrCK) ERROR in 'feature.cc' at line 209: ASSERT failed: feat of 162 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_FEATURES (162) (Vaults:1) 06:46:46 FiftyNine (L19 DrCK) ERROR in 'feature.cc' at line 209: ASSERT failed: feat of 162 out of range 0 (0) .. NUM_FEATURES (162) (Vaults:1) 06:49:20 -!- raskol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:54 -!- FiftyNine has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:15 FiftyNine (L19 DrCK) ERROR in 'feature.cc' at line 209: ASSERT failed: feat of 162 out of range 0 (0) .. 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ZZZzzz…] 07:40:31 -!- Palyth has quit [] 07:42:36 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:46:34 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:49:03 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:52:53 -!- dgu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:57:28 -!- Shados has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:06:12 -!- SkaryMonx has left ##crawl-dev 08:07:47 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:08:39 -!- kippig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:11:32 <|amethyst> Napkin: password reset request from Nuk at https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13678 08:12:12 <|amethyst> Napkin: I don't know where dgamelaunch-config is or whether I have permissions to sudo dgl, or I'd do it myself 08:17:03 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:46 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:25:43 -!- Brannock__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:55 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:27:57 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:28:57 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 08:32:18 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:43:23 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:49:32 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:16 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:06:57 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:25 -!- SkaryMonx has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:32 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:23:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:38 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:27:09 &version cln 09:27:09 cln: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72 09:27:24 &version rhf 09:27:24 rhf: 09:27:40 &version 09:27:42 : 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72 09:28:22 &version 09:28:25 *: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72 09:28:50 &version @qw 09:28:50 @qw: 0.15.0-8-gb109cf8 09:29:54 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 09:30:04 might be useful for looking up the latest version that servers are running rather than having to remember the prefix (and not being able to check ckr/cdo that way anyway) 09:30:09 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:52 -!- debo has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:36:55 -!- Fortescue has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 09:36:56 -!- rphillips has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:37:36 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 09:38:51 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 271 seconds] 09:41:06 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:41:36 -!- siepu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:46:22 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:47:17 -!- rphillips has quit [Client Quit] 09:48:33 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48:35 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:42 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:17 -!- Furril has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:54:50 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:46 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:02:07 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07:44 <|amethyst> &version s=src 10:07:47 s=src: ${vlong}, ${vlong}, ${vlong}, ${vlong}, ${vlong}, ${vlong} 10:07:52 <|amethyst> aww 10:08:06 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:11:07 x=max(vlong) doesn't sort vlong correctly (this was already the case with cv sorting too) so there's no simple way of doing an s=src thing 10:11:23 <|amethyst> oh right, greensnark was working on that 10:15:12 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:20:43 &versions 10:20:49 CAO: 0.16-a0-617-ga3a77a9, CBRO: 0.16-a0-616-g88db246, CDO: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72, CKR: 0.16-a0-620-g6450424, CLAN: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72, CSZO: 0.16-a0-621-gdc21f72 10:20:52 &versions 0.15 10:20:58 CAO: 0.15.0-8-gb109cf8, CBRO: 0.15.0-9-g1a96a59, CDO: 0.15.0-31-geb66e34, CKR: 0.15.0-8-gb109cf8, CLAN: 0.15.0-8-gb109cf8, CSZO: 0.15.0-8-gb109cf8 10:21:14 for those who aren't in ##crawl-sequell :) 10:22:13 incidentally is it really the case that most of the servers don't have up-to-date 0.15 branches? 10:22:35 !lm * t cszo s=vlong 10:22:37 139294 milestones for * (t cszo): 17062x 0.15.0-27-gbdb0435, 15866x 0.15.0-31-geb66e34, 15372x 0.15.0-14-g6bbbb5c, 11302x 0.15.0-8-gb109cf8, 10751x 0.15.0-11-g6f4f891, 10308x 0.15.0-12-gccce430, 8514x 0.15.0-23-gc2b521c, 8426x 0.15.0-13-gb296d5c, 8011x 0.15.0-18-g9076a4f, 7857x 0.15.0-16-gce31824, 7783x 0.15.0-25-gd84c1e8, 7446x 0.15.0-22-g71df38d, 6657x 0.15.0-3-gfa22c90, 3939x 0.15.0-33-gdde9071 10:22:46 +1 for &versions 10:23:06 oh I guess something is broken 10:25:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:40 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:52 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:32:13 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:32:26 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:35:03 why dosen't the eXclusion feature work 10:40:55 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:42:49 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:46:45 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:02:36 -!- LordSloth has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:14:06 not working how? 11:14:06 wheals: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:14:07 !messages 11:14:08 (1/2) nonethousand said (12h 7m 58s ago): about the same (switching keyboard layouts and roguelikes) 11:14:10 !messages 11:14:10 (1/1) eoc said (47m 20s ago): hi, do you happen to know why pressing < on X map selects shops now, or are you blamable for it, or can you provide somebody to blame for it? it's a lot of fun in bazaar where by fun i mean not fun 11:14:23 eoc, wonder who that is 11:14:55 !tell someone i'll fix it when i get home 11:14:56 Sorry wheals, I don't know who someone is. 11:16:03 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:13 I'm abot to file a 0.15 bug report, is there any further information I should contribute. Situation: Lua Error in Volcano 11:16:43 notify_dgn_event: Lua error: / /crawl-master/crawl-0.15/data/dat/dlua/dungeon.lua:678: Point (0,0) is out of / bounds x3 11:16:58 I haven't notice any actual effects of the error 11:17:09 and I'm not sure how to figure out the vault name 11:17:22 other than poking around in the des files 11:17:24 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:50 a save backup could do it, since there's a wizmode command to find out 11:18:06 Okay, will do. 11:18:21 one sec 11:18:27 %bug 7595 11:18:27 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7595 11:18:44 did you get abyssed or anything? might be a duplicate 11:19:12 Lua Error 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8972 by LordSloth 11:19:12 Didn't get banished, but I am fighting a molten gargoyle with a flail of distortion 11:19:24 i'll set them as "related" 11:20:02 ah, used step from time or temporal distortion? 11:20:31 Temporal Distortion 11:21:34 Let me see if I can trigger the lua again 11:21:48 Did not repeat 11:22:05 interesting 11:23:12 But yes, the error showed up at the same moment i used temporal 11:23:56 Did happen a third time, with another molten gargoyle 11:25:18 I did not notice this error when using temporal distortion to avoid flame clouds, updated my notes 11:25:56 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:57 -!- Gachiko has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:29:57 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:45 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:52 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:32:25 -!- yinz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:37:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:43:37 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:45:04 Anyone know where dgl's baner at the top of the login screen comes from these days? It's no longer dgl-banner in the chroot 11:47:03 -!- LordSloth has left ##crawl-dev 11:49:29 /chroot/dgldir/data/banner apparently 11:50:05 er, dgl-banner 11:50:11 Dangit no? 11:51:12 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:51:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 11:52:40 ohhh I see that files gets used to compile files or something there's a menus directory 11:53:29 got tired of seeing a wallet name I'm moving away from using every time I logged into CAO :P 12:00:17 -!- Aryth has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:17 -!- Sequell has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:18 -!- markgo has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:18 -!- dgu has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:18 -!- Lasty_ has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:19 -!- Reverie has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:20 -!- Nstar|2 has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:20 -!- amatsu has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:21 -!- MakMorn has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:21 -!- F-Glex has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:22 -!- Adder has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:22 -!- endou____ has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:46 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:46 -!- Lasty_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:46 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:46 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:46 -!- F-Glex has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:56 -!- MgDark has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:56 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:56 -!- xnavy has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:58 -!- flowsnake has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:59 -!- us17 has quit [*.net *.split] 12:00:59 -!- Zermako2 has quit [] 12:01:56 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:01:57 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:21 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [*.net *.split] 12:02:21 -!- raskol has quit [*.net *.split] 12:02:21 -!- Basil has quit [*.net *.split] 12:02:22 -!- yxhuvud has quit [*.net *.split] 12:02:23 -!- Vizer has quit [*.net *.split] 12:02:25 -!- doy has quit [*.net *.split] 12:02:58 -!- raskol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:58 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:58 -!- doy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:39 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-623-g20b2139 (34) 12:06:45 is it bad that you can farm TSO piety by kiting around shadow imps? 12:09:19 -!- Lasty_ is now known as lasty 12:09:22 -!- lasty is now known as Lasty_ 12:09:34 getting extra xp is more of an issue really 12:10:34 could probably make raised zombies/skeletons not give piety or xp 12:12:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:15:30 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:13 I always assumed they didn't . . . 12:18:38 huh. likewise, if only because you already got xp from them once 12:19:21 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:42 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:29:34 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 12:40:17 <|amethyst> rax: you probably want /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/chroot/data/banner then dgl publish --confirm it 12:40:35 <|amethyst> rax: otherwise it will be overwritten the next time someone else (me) publishes 12:41:01 <|amethyst> rax: err, chroot/data/menus/banner 12:41:23 <|amethyst> rax: oh, or data/dgl-banner depending on which you mean 12:41:23 -!- ilyak has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:42:15 ohhhhh there's waymore automation than there used to be, okay, thankyou 12:42:18 (do you want credit also?) 12:44:14 wow, nice 12:44:24 the tower of babel vault got generated on elf:3 for me 12:44:37 so the shafts got replaced with (brown!) mechanical traps 12:45:09 xv says they're shafts if they're out of view, too 12:45:16 if i step on one it turns cyan, though 12:48:50 -!- debo has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:48:59 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:46 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:50:40 |amethyst: nope that wasn't it 12:50:45 oh maybe there's another one 12:50:51 how many files are there jeez louise 12:51:32 editing /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/chroot/data/dgl-banner didn't do it 12:51:40 there are menu files I could edit manually I guess? 12:51:48 but that doesn't seem like the intent 12:52:53 * rax starts reading source 12:53:19 it looks like publish.pl just copies those files 12:53:23 so something else generates them 12:53:45 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:54:28 -!- Brannock__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54:54 looks like it only adds the banner to new things 12:55:03 and does not check for a new banner file for already existing menu files 12:55:08 sed, i choose you 12:55:11 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 12:57:28 ...all's sed and done? 12:57:28 Grunt: You have 1 message. 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(D:7) 16:59:22 !crashlog bronies4ever 16:59:22 1. bronies4ever, XL9 TrFi, T:4318 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/bronies4ever/crash-bronies4ever-20140917-215747.txt 16:59:56 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:02:06 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Using leafChat 2] 17:04:40 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-623-g20b2139 (34) 17:08:08 fr: TSO summons immune to Holy Fire 17:08:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08:32 alternately, fr: Warn the player when using Holy Fire if (vulnerable) allies are in the vicinity 17:08:53 which summons aren't? 17:09:17 Well I just died to TSO putting me in Penance for holy firing my summon away, I forget which one it was... 17:09:19 Let me check. 17:09:45 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:10:46 Oh the log doesn't go back far enough. 17:10:57 Which is the one with the golden armour tile? 17:11:00 -!- jbenedet1o has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:11:06 not familiar with tiles 17:11:11 I was wondering how you got an ally that was vulnerable to holy fire and wasn't itself going to get you TSO penance 17:11:17 I'll check in wizmode. 17:11:55 Okay, not an angel. 17:12:23 tso doesn't give anything other than angels and daevas, right? 17:12:26 Huh, I can't recreate it. 17:12:32 both of them are immune to cleansing flame 17:12:43 Oh wait. 17:12:52 Perhaps I hit an unaware monster with Cleansing Flame. 17:13:03 that sounds more likely 17:13:05 And the penance caused my summon to vanish 17:13:15 Sorry! 17:13:28 <|amethyst> does holy flame affect stabbables? 17:13:53 Let me find something and test. 17:13:57 <|amethyst> res_holy_energy returns -1 for any non-unholy, non-undead, non-evil monster that is currently stabbable 17:14:01 <|amethyst> err 17:14:04 <|amethyst> returns 1 rather 17:14:06 in fact, holy flame seems to just not affect any allies at all 17:14:22 read: were you playing online? 17:14:27 <|amethyst> doy: even from call canine familiar? 17:14:27 Offline. 17:14:33 <|amethyst> doy: oh right, allies are stabbale 17:14:38 <|amethyst> s/ale/able/ 17:14:48 <|amethyst> doy: maybe a summoned golem? 17:15:11 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:11 It does nothing to a sleeping goblin. 17:15:19 holy fire != cleansing flame 17:15:23 Oh. 17:15:25 Right. 17:16:09 Okay so yeah, confused or whatever monster. Thanks for clearing that up! 17:16:16 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:16:17 I'm less mad now, I should have checked before using it. 17:16:30 it should either prompt or not do damage imo 17:16:32 <|amethyst> should still give a warning 17:16:38 drunken dwarf (03g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 15-40 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 07vault | Res: 06magic(20), 08holy | XP: 130 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 17:16:38 %??drunken dwarf 17:16:40 drunken dwarf: dwarf name:drunken n_adj n_des n_noc perm_ench:confusion 17:16:40 %??spec:drunken dwarf 17:16:45 ??holy fire 17:16:45 I don't have a page labeled holy_fire in my learndb. 17:16:49 see, confusion is supposed to give resistance 17:17:07 Are there bad consquences to making anything in your halo always alert? 17:17:16 !learn del ru to do[3 17:17:16 Deleted ru to do[3/10]: You are now hated by all. The plant turns against you! The fungus turns against you! The plant turns against you! The fungus turns against you! The fungus turns against you! 17:17:26 Or whatever hte word is for not confused/distracted. 17:17:39 I guess not confused would be bad. 17:17:42 <|amethyst> read: TSO should just make nothing stabbable, regardless of halo 17:17:46 Yeah I'd like that. 17:17:58 ??ru to do[4 17:17:58 ru to do[4/9]: The last sentence of the description of Ru's sacrifice health has a double space between new and powers: "and you may gain new powers as well." 17:18:11 what is holy fire? 17:18:13 <|amethyst> read: but I guess you'd still want to prevent "ambush" blasting 17:18:26 Lasty_1, probably the last parts of all those abilites should be C++-side 17:18:50 since they're all the same, it's silly to have it repeated however many times 17:18:57 fixing it, though 17:19:01 !learn del ru to do[4 17:19:01 Deleted ru to do[4/9]: The last sentence of the description of Ru's sacrifice health has a double space between new and powers: "and you may gain new powers as well." 17:21:11 !learn del ru to do[7 17:21:12 Deleted ru to do[7/8]: Vashnia silenced by your wave of power! 17:25:37 -!- Laraso has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:27:48 !tell ontoclasm The elf twin title image looks weirdly distorted in offline tiles for whatever reason due to its uneven resolution, so the easiest fix is this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/title_baconkid_duvessa_dowan.png 17:27:49 Bloaxor: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 17:29:46 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:29:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:31:13 !learn del ru to do[7 17:31:13 Deleted ru to do[7/7]: adjust ring acquirement rates in _acquirement_jewelry_subtype() 17:31:40 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:31:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:33:45 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:36:38 -!- Jho has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:39:16 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:42 wow, i accidentally a commit 17:39:48 thank god for the reflog 17:41:15 wheals: if you are looking at ru bugs, here's one: enhancer staves aren't marked as useless for small species who have sacrificed a hand 17:41:29 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:41:50 i guess since usually everyone can use one? 17:47:39 yeah, it isn't really surprising that this case was missed when hand sacrifice was added 17:48:24 !learn del ru to do[3 17:48:25 Deleted ru to do[3/6]: remove claim that &^W gives Ru sacrifices. 17:51:18 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 17:51:50 !learn del ru to do[2 17:51:50 Deleted ru to do[2/5]: Mummies shouldsn't be able to sac potions 18:01:05 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:06:30 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 18:10:30 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:10:49 -!- vimpulse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 18:14:23 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:21:31 !messages 18:21:31 No messages for TZer0. 18:23:02 -!- DrKe_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:50 -!- Kramell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:37 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:30:14 -!- fridurmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32:10 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:46 -!- raskol has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:55 -!- DrKe_ is now known as drke 18:37:22 -!- jacobian has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:40:31 -!- uglyjohn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:40:49 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:41:09 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:43:44 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:44:14 -!- raskol_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:45:00 -!- vimpulse has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:19 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:48:02 hi all :) I see a unique, I exclude it, and I leave the level. The dungeon overview screen tells me that the unique is excluded. 18:48:02 1. Later on in the future, should the game allow me to see whether the unique is still "extremely difficult" -- or whether it has fallen to "very difficult" -- without reentering the unique's LOS? 18:48:03 2. If yes, how could the game allow me to see this information? 18:49:42 a logical place to put it would be ?/m 18:50:18 wheals: Would it likely be worth the development effort? 18:50:26 I'm not a Crawl developer. :) 18:50:36 in general ?/m could stand to be improved in many ways 18:50:56 so if you ended up helping there, even if the difficulty ends up being marginal, making it more helpful would be good 18:50:57 how far does this go? just uniques? 18:51:04 geekosaur: anything excluded, ideally. 18:51:06 * geekosaur thinking of his d:3 wyvern 18:51:31 wheals: could it somehow be shown on the Dungeon Overview screen? 18:51:38 That would be more discoverable. 18:51:56 maybe color the monster on ^o 18:53:39 -!- drke is now known as DrKe 18:57:34 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:33 -!- st_ has quit [] 18:59:01 -!- eliotn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:25 ok. "Very" could be brown (IRGB 0x6), and "extremely" could be red (IRGB 0x4). This way, it wouldn't be _too_ distracting. A) Reasonable? B) Is this idea now an "Implementable"? 19:05:24 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:19:58 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-624-ge044ed0: Ru text improvements. 10(2 hours ago, 4 files, 4+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e044ed01c3f4 19:19:58 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-625-gaa3c11a: Make rings less likely from acquirement if you only have one hand. 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa3c11aefca4 19:19:58 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-626-ge745240: Don't let mummies sacrifice potions (#8963). 10(88 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e74524020869 19:19:58 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-627-g7e57b07: Allow using Draw Out Power while confused (#8969). 10(85 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e57b07a0fcd 19:19:58 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-628-g0b61cba: Shops aren't stairs (#8965). 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b61cbafa711 19:21:19 that last commit changes my crawl strategy a lot 19:21:27 was going about it all wrong 19:21:28 !send gammafunk strategy 19:21:28 Sending strategy to gammafunk. 19:22:34 hmm... is there a specific tag to use in mantis to disable url autoparsing? 19:24:22 johnny0: dunno. Why do you ask? 19:25:27 because i don't want a specific url in a note to be parsed -- but if it's by design then that's fine i guess 19:26:38 johnny0: You can try leaving out "http://". Or you can change the hostname to "example.com". What URL? 19:27:16 the protocol is very important -- it's a command to add remote git repo 19:27:54 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 19:30:10 -!- Zermako2 has quit [] 19:30:17 maybe just 
 it? appears to be supported by mantisbt markup
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19:32:49  it's getting parsed in the pre block :(
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19:34:20  johnny0:  links are permitted inside a PRE block.  PRE means to treat spaces and linebreaks literally.
19:34:27  johnny0:  what's the link?
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19:39:14  https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=98 ; last note
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19:46:10  johnny0:  I did a Google search for [ mantis markup ], and found some useful results.  Try replacing the link with:  ht
tps://gitlab.com/johnny0/crawl-j0.git
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19:46:29  johnny0:  Does that solve the problem?
19:48:42  Hey folks, eoc told me about the @ targeting bug. Anyone know a place where that's been fixed for some other feature so I can copy it?
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19:52:28  vimpulse: nope -- placing an empty pre block between the double forward slash stops the autolinking but inserts a line break
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19:53:32  johnny0:  try 
19:55:03  did someone delete a bunch of entries from ru_to_do?
19:55:16  vimpulse: ahh, strong didn't work, but  did -- thanks!
19:55:30  johnny0:  np :)
19:55:39  Lasty: wheals did (and committed stuff)
19:55:56  mmm five note edits in the history
19:57:54  elliptic: Thanks! I didn't see it in the commit log.
19:58:03  oh, there it is
19:58:04  duh
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20:04:28  elliptic: do you know about the @ targeting issue?
20:09:32  gammafunk, Grunt: are either of you around so that I can pick your brain about @ targeting in jump attack / shadow step?
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20:15:13  Dear all:  "The yak is severely wounded".  1.  Must this truly be "LightRed" even though it's not urgent?  2.  If not:  Would "Red" perhaps be a better default?
20:15:59 -!- Jho is now known as Deviljho
20:16:05  by default its colored based on their hp, you see this with "almost dead" too
20:17:28  I feel like making non-urgent things (like low monster HP) "LightRed" teaches players to ignore truly urgent matters, later on.
20:20:09  Hi, does anyone in here have experience with the webtiles server?
20:20:53  SakuyaIzayoi:  Hi!  It's not so good to start your questions with "does anyone".  Because if so, we will ask you the following reply.
20:20:53  Why do you ask?
20:20:53  :)
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20:21:27  i'm having a rather odd problem
20:21:42  SakuyaIzayoi:  please tell us.  All on one extremely long line, please, and in great detail.
20:21:58  for some background, i'm running the server on a VM
20:22:14  the server works perfectly when i access it from the VM
20:22:28  but from outside it, the game refuses to load tile assets
20:22:44  i.e. either the game area displays nothing or sometimes just displays walls or floors
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20:24:44  SakuyaIzayoi:  That's no fun.  1.  When did the problem start?  2.  What's the URL so that we can connect?  3.  And -- what do you suspect is the problem?
20:26:09  Lasty: I know that various things have had issues with @/! targeting over the years but I don't know much about the code involved, sorry
20:27:33  SakuyaIzayoi:  4.  Do you have Google Chrome installed?  Open up its built-in Developer Tools window.  Is the browser retrieving the assets successfully ("HTTP 200 OK"?)
20:27:34  Lasty: I tried to grep the commit history for relevant commits but just found 54bc2e4c5
20:28:01  SakuyaIzayoi:  5.  What happens if you enter an asset's URL directly into wget(1)?
20:28:14  confirmed it's working in firefox
20:28:19  so i'm assuming this is a webkit thing
20:28:37  and I assume we have some other way of handling it now that targetters are fancier and stuff
20:29:04  though that code in cast_big_c still exists I guess
20:30:00  content length mismatches in the JS console
20:30:02  I heard that the Sewer branch is lost to the mists due to a bug. What happened to make it that way? I enjoyed the Sewer
20:30:13  also Tornado is gaving the same errors
20:30:18  what? Sewer exists
20:30:32  I haven't seen it in any of my recent games
20:30:41  Taraiph:  so, go into wizmode, and create an entrance.  :)
20:30:46  it doesn't exist in every game, just like most portal vaults
20:31:04  sewers are like ossuaries or baileys that way, for instance
20:31:05  mmm
20:31:20  well, I suppose this IS a roguelike so
20:31:27  !lm * won recent br.enter=sewer
20:31:28  946. [2014-09-17 04:20:06] Basil the Ruffian (L6 GhEE) entered a Sewer on turn 3362. (D:3)
20:31:32  !lg * won recent
20:31:33  4639. Sharkman1231 the Fencer (L27 TeWz of Ashenzari), escaped with the Orb and 10 runes on 2014-09-17 23:36:18, with 7304747 points after 101581 turns and 7:33:29.
20:31:42  judging from that they exist in about 20% of games
20:31:57  well, a bit more presumably, hard to say how much more
20:32:17  so I'm suffering from confirmation bias? good to know!
20:32:32  Hmmm.  Odd.  I seem to be wearing a +8194 cloak.  It was +2 before.  Perhaps some bug caused 2 to the power of 13 to be added to its AC?
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20:32:56  so are you untouchable now?
20:33:02  dunno, let me check
20:33:29  Taraiph:  Yes.
20:33:45  Wow, and I figured that was impossible in DCSS
20:33:58  Does Crawl include sanity checks each time it loads or saves a game?
20:34:12  some, yes
20:34:14  For example, checking that no armour is supermaximally enchanted.
20:40:23  yes
20:40:28  and that sometimes produces false positives
20:40:35  !lm * crash noun~~plus<
20:40:36  No milestones for * (crash noun~~plus<).
20:40:40  !lm * crash noun~~plus\<
20:40:40  No milestones for * (crash noun~~plus\<).
20:40:46  hm
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20:43:56  !lm * crash noun~~plus
20:44:01  10. [2012-02-25 22:07:09] Mazaa the Conjurer (L9 TeCj of Vehumet) ASSERT(abs(armour plus) < 20) in 'monster.cc' at line 941 failed on turn 9465. (D:7)
20:44:28  why should an armour plus ever exceed 20?
20:44:59  ?/wompoate
20:45:00  Matching entries (1): uber_randarts[20]: the +22 crystal plate armour "Wompoate" {rPois rF+ rN+ Stlth++}
20:45:20  OK, how about in non-randarts?
20:50:00  Lasty: @ targetting?
20:50:48  or in my case e targetting
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20:51:28  oh @ as in the targetting option, I don't even know what that does
20:51:47  I only use .
20:52:34  it's supposed to let you use trajectories calculated with out-of-range targets but limit you to maxrange
20:58:32  Woo, the server works in chromium in the VM, but still not externally :(
21:00:18  gammafunk: yeah, @ can be used to target spaces past what's in rang
21:00:19  *range
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21:00:44  and in the case of cblinks you can use it to override targeting requirements within LOs
21:00:50  so, for example, power leap
21:01:21  03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-629-gf2dfd23: Fix the D&D title screen 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f2dfd2329de3
21:01:48  oh, since normally cblink is full los
21:01:50  it doesn't matter
21:01:53 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev
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21:01:59  yeah the jump targetter is it's own targetter
21:02:03 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal]
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21:02:15  so it's not very comparable, but there are basically range validations
21:02:18  on the chosen landing
21:02:21 -!- rast-- is now known as rast
21:02:36  (assuming it's not also broken, but I think it's not)
21:03:00  I think the ctele things don't even use normal targetters?
21:03:09  hmm
21:03:13  well the cblink things
21:03:56  It looks like it's using direction()?
21:04:06  !source ru_power_leap
21:04:06  http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc;hb=HEAD#l5672
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21:04:56  yeah direction is the ui interface, that's at a higher level above targetters
21:04:59  let me see
21:05:16 * Grunt awakens.
21:05:29  It rises from the deeps!
21:05:36  It roars!
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21:08:37  "crawl --help" doesn't tell me about "crawl --edit-save".  Is this on purpose?  Or is it simply that nobody ever decided to edit main.cc::_show_commandline_options_help to mention it?
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21:11:38 * Grunt throws his arms wide...
21:11:45  The dead are crawling!@
21:12:03 * Grunt flings streamers and confettis into the air.
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21:14:09  Hi, Grunt, question. Since you were the person who implemented the monster warning channel, would it be possible to add a message for monsters coming back into your LOS when not autotraveling? Since currently you only get "The adder is now too close for your liking." when autoexploring or using ^G.
21:14:47  magicpoints: hm, it's possible, but I'd need to work at it :)
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21:15:10  IDK if you think that should be an optional message or not
21:15:31  Probably I'd add an option for it.
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21:20:47  Lasty: Looks like your best bet would be to add a new restrict type (DIR_LEAP) and allow the check at directn.cc:1357 to look for this
21:21:13 -!- cribo has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
21:21:17  then set that as the restrict type in your direction_chooser_args
21:21:22  in ru_power_leap()
21:21:46  03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-630-g0d77e24: Move a name lower down in CREDITS.txt. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d77e241902a
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21:22:47  otoh it is maybe odd that DIR_TARGET allows use of @
21:22:54  hmm
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21:23:07  but that would involve some refactoring
21:23:30  hrrm
21:23:40  direction_chooser::select() always allows use of @, since vast majority of targettings need to allow it
21:23:50  what it does is check for DIR_JUMP used by jump targettter
21:23:59  and then does an extra range check to handle that properly
21:24:30  and DIR_JUMP must be kept separate from DIR_LEAP (or whatever) if you add this, since DIR_JUMP is checked for other things specific to jump/shadow step
21:24:42  ah, I see
21:25:10  I'll try doing the DIR_LEAP version for now, and we can worry about a refactoring later . . .
21:25:12  I think I do want to remove some of the additional requirements for jump-attack that can block things, which would simplify, but that's a different issue
21:25:25  yeah it should work ok, but let me know if there's a problem
21:25:30  thanks for running through that for me
21:26:04  np, it's Grunt's fault that directn.cc is so hard to read
21:26:11  ?/blame
21:26:11  Matching terms (2): blame_grunt, blame_lemuel; entries (11): discorobin[1] | grunt[2] | mutagenic_fog_abyss[1] | oklob_sapling_temple[1] | oklob_temple[1] | profane_halls[1] | river_lethe[1] | vault[1] | why_is_cszo_down[1] | wretched_star[1] | ztome[1]
21:26:15  !blame gammafunk
21:26:16  I pronounce gammafunk... Guilty!
21:26:16  haha
21:26:21  good order to those blames imo
21:26:29  oh has anyone else seen this vault
21:26:34  !valut lemuel_firehouse
21:26:44  !vault lemuel_firehouse
21:26:44  http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des;hb=HEAD#l849
21:26:55  super nasty, maybe too much?
21:27:13  I mean I know that it is a *lemuel* vault and all but
21:27:40  25 enemies!!!
21:28:15  you can't nerf lemuel vaults
21:28:21  that's like punching a baby
21:28:49  we've figuratively punched .....we've nerfed them before
21:28:58  but I'm not actually sure this is over the top
21:29:02  but it's borderline
21:29:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.]
21:29:44  are there any rules to vault generation?
21:30:05  can you be more specific?
21:30:11  short answer: yes
21:31:35  gammafunk: did you buff chaos brand when buffing mnoleg?
21:32:12  I gave the tentacles af_klown instead of af_chaos, since af_chaos is just so unsafe to melee
21:32:22  People are reporting chaos brand moving stairs.
21:32:22 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0.1/20140911151253]]
21:32:23  but in any case no?
21:32:25 * Grunt punches nrook!!!!!!
21:32:30  Which is normally (?) a Xom thing.
21:32:36  Well "people" someone in chat and someone on SA.
21:32:36  that is...interesting
21:32:37 * nrook cries
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21:34:05 * Grunt drinks nrook's tears!!!
21:34:11 * Grunt cackles and vanishes!
21:34:22  oh noes
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21:37:01  it's time
21:37:49 * nrook sobs while begging for somebody to merge in my merge requests
21:41:10  MUTCLASS_NORMAL
21:41:19  that's what you get when you cast canine and get a hound
21:41:43  lol
21:41:52  these look pretty simple, maybe I can get to them and infiniplex's patch tomorrow
21:43:46  %git 6a4e72fb
21:43:47  07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-2267-g6a4e72f: Show quantities up to 10k in inventory panel (#8821) 10(8 weeks ago, 12 files, 20+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a4e72fbd0df
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21:44:33  ??vault design
21:44:33  vaultmaking[1/3]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps and docs/develop/levels/ in the source
21:44:51  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-631-g96e350d: Better compensate Crypt's spawns for the cut floors 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 27+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96e350d44dec
21:45:34  ??vaultmaking[3
21:45:34  vaultmaking[3/3]:  I suggested to gamma earlier that I should remove the equivalent of the vaginal canal. It makes the vault look better as well.
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21:45:44  demoscene's edge
21:46:32  is Basil making a vault? finally?
21:46:41  eventually
21:47:03  !vault gammafunk_depths_water_palace
21:47:03  http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l2918
21:47:07  Basil: read and learn from the master
21:47:19  !banish gammafunk_depths_water_palace
21:47:19  Grunt casts a spell. gammafunk_depths_water_palace is devoured by a tear in reality!
21:47:25  mm
21:47:29 * theTower rumbles deeply
21:48:10  !lg Grunt (( map=~gammafunk || kmap=~gammafunk ))
21:48:11  No games for Grunt ((map=~gammafunk || kmap=~gammafunk)).
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21:48:15  I'll get you soon enough
21:48:29  everybody has one they're proud of, don't they
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21:48:47  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-632-g891ea98: Vault batch. 10(27 seconds ago, 10 files, 567+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=891ea9886260
21:48:50  well they can take a lot of work, the larger ones
21:49:00  don't say
21:49:04  wait, how did I not notice tenofswords
21:49:38  !nick hangedman
21:49:39  No nick mapping for hangedman.
21:49:44  gammafunk: adding the new DIR_LEAP to 1357 didn't do it, nor did setting allow_out_of_range to false. I think I need to do more.
21:50:04  Lasty: well you should pastebin your patch
21:50:42  ??sprunge
21:50:42  I don't have a page labeled sprunge in my learndb.
21:50:46  ?/sprunge
21:50:46  No matches.
21:50:48  why
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21:51:20  ..just look at those beautiful hangedman NSUBST
21:51:39  oh good, new lair ends yay
21:51:58  !learn add hangedman  ..just look at those beautiful hangedman NSUBST
21:51:58  hangedman[18/18]:  ..just look at those beautiful hangedman NSUBST
21:52:00  Some are quite unorthodox.
21:52:11  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-633-g639f1a7: New Gehenna end. 10(60 seconds ago, 1 file, 103+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=639f1a7a40fa
21:52:13  mmm exciting things
21:52:52  gammafunk: http://pastebin.com/Yc7S20fj
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21:53:54  nothing yet
21:54:08  Lasty: ...why are you changing shadow step to use DIR_LEAP
21:54:16  Wait, what?
21:54:25  you changed the shadow step function
21:54:25  oh ffs
21:54:27  not power leap
21:54:32  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-634-gd130c34: Further Swamp end vaults adjustments 10(24 seconds ago, 1 file, 73+ 71-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d130c34a3a18
21:54:33  rip
21:54:34  Grunt hates that!
21:54:48 * Grunt does not appreciate your disturbing the shadows!
21:54:50  You feel guilty.
21:54:52  I thought I still had the correct thing highlighted, forgot to check :p
21:55:06 * Lasty is blasted by the shadow fiend's bolt of cold!
21:55:34  theTower: so how do you make spectral spriggan riders shoot curare in des
21:55:36 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
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21:56:32  can not
21:56:37  darn
21:56:52  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-635-g4230734: Fresh light D/Depths encompass vault edits 10(29 seconds ago, 2 files, 232+ 177-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4230734e7712
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21:57:34  Lasty: also I think that !allow_out_of_range needs to go; that's actually the opposite of what you want
21:57:59  that variable will be true when @ was used
21:58:22  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-636-gccaf1fd: Let pairs of ragged claws scuttle across the floors of liquid seas, too. 10(23 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ccaf1fdcf5c2
21:58:27  oh hey that reminds me
21:58:34  right, but it's an ||
21:58:36  basically oh wait
21:58:37  so that's fine
21:58:37  I should try and fix my gehenna ending
21:58:39  er
21:58:52  ah yeah
21:58:56  sorry misread
21:58:58  that did it!
21:58:58  highly implausible
21:58:59  hooray
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22:00:14  ghost crabs in swamp ends...well it was a matter of time I guess
22:00:18 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:00:40  worthless elsewhere.
22:00:48  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-637-g277d192: Block eels and lava snakes from Zot. 10(10 seconds ago, 2 files, 8+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=277d192313a9
22:00:57  So, I suppose I should try pushing this out . . .
22:01:03  he does want to improve them fwiw, but I don't know that he has any specific ideas
22:01:06  he being wheals
22:01:11  move them
22:01:29  lair
22:01:41  the swamp
22:01:46  hrm, spider?
22:02:09  guess that'd be kind of silly
22:03:44  Dear all:  Edited repeat:
22:03:44  I seem to be wearing a +8194 cloak, and therefore am almost invincible.  It was +2 before.  Perhaps some bug caused 8192 to be added to its pluses.
22:03:44  My messages log holds 1000 lines, and the problem doesn't seem to have existed for all 1000 lines:  only for some of the 1000.  Yet my messages log doesn't mention the word "cloak" even once.
22:03:44  I tried making a copy of my .cs file and loading the copy.  The cloak is still +8194.
22:03:47  Is there any practical way for me to troubleshoot what went wrong?
22:04:14  purposeful crash
22:04:31  theTower:  and then?
22:04:57  crash log
22:05:37  theTower:  how can I crash Crawl on purpose?  Crawl 0.15.0 on Debian 7.
22:05:54  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-638-g0e215f3: Replace a quote, add two quotes, date another quote. 10(72 seconds ago, 1 file, 47+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e215f335b90
22:07:21  hangedman_orp_of_zott is pretty cute
22:07:21  hangedman_grunt_twisty_little_passages lol
22:07:21  dear all:  how can I crash Crawl on purpose, in order to generate a crash log?  I'm running Crawl 0.15.0 on Debian Linux 7.
22:07:30  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-639-g67d7cde: Clean up hells lua a little, move Serpent code to vault.lua 10(38 seconds ago, 5 files, 28+ 99-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=67d7cde3a40a
22:10:31  vimpulse: in wiz mode there's a command to crash crawl
22:10:31  it's...
22:10:31  gammafunk:  never mind, I can check the wiz mode help screen.
22:10:31  ok
22:10:31  the crash log should be whereever your morgues go
22:10:31  oh, ctrl-c
22:10:31  of course
22:10:31  I've hit that by accident too many times
22:10:31  gammafunk: s/intentional/un&/?
22:10:31  gammafunk:  it doesn't prompt before crashing?
22:10:31  vimpulse: NOPE
22:10:31  gammafunk: DANG
22:10:31  it does print the location of the crash log though!
22:10:31  gammafunk:  Thank you!  I've opened the crash log and shall take a look.
22:10:39  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-640-ga68d18e: Fix monster orb of electrocution using one die, not three dice 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a68d18e1795d
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22:11:20  tisk tisk
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22:12:22  gammafunk:  I've skimmed the crash log.  It mentions the word "cloak" only once.  It does mention that eq slot #1 holds a +8194 cloak, but it doesn't seem to give any hint as to why the cloak is supramaximally enchanted.
22:12:49  dear gammafunk:  dear all:  Was the log supposed to somewhere imply why it is enchanted so highly?
22:12:51  vimpulse: well a crash log is good mostly for diagnosing the source of the crash
22:12:57  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-641-g1781301: More plane rend adjustments 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1781301f7e5b
22:12:57  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-642-g9d55891: Lower base draconian chances in polymorph 10(8 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d55891f1c6f
22:13:14  and since you crashed crawl intentionaly, the log won't be helpful for an enchant bug
22:13:22  more messages
22:13:49  vimpulse: I'm not sure of the context here, is this a bug report, or your own local game?
22:13:58  theTower:  it still only includes 1000 messages, just like the .msg file held.
22:14:16  oh, whoops
22:14:20  gammafunk:  a 0.8.0 game on my local machine contains a +8194 cloak, and I have no idea why.
22:14:27  my apologies
22:14:31  that's....an old game
22:14:32  theTower:  no worries.
22:14:44  theTower:  it was the latest release a couple weeks ago.
22:14:50  it seems plausible that's an old bug
22:15:02  %git 0.8.0
22:15:02  07kilobyte02 * 0.8.0: Center the headings in the manual (jpt9) 10(3 years, 5 months ago, 1 file, 20+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a1e77467d77
22:15:07  a couple weeks ago?
22:15:09  0.8.0 is not "most recent" :)
22:15:16  oh.  not 0.8.0
22:15:17  where are you obtaining new Crawl versions?
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22:15:22  let me check what I'm running.
22:15:22  it seems likely your version is out of date
22:15:29  Version: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.15.0
22:15:37  well, that's better
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22:16:03  Can you create any of the conditions that caused this enchant bug?
22:16:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
22:16:09  Or do you have just no idea how it got that way
22:16:13  e.g. what sequence of actions
22:16:13  File: `crawl_2%3a0.15.0-1_i386.deb'
22:16:14  Change: 2014-08-31 22:04:42.000000000 -0400
22:16:22  gammafunk:  no idea how it got that way.
22:16:32  probably going to be hard to track that one down then
22:16:38  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-643-gfca566f: Weaken some extremely early overly dangerous vaults 10(21 seconds ago, 2 files, 10+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fca566f44bfe
22:19:12  gammafunk:  I vaguely remember that one of my stats increased to some unreal number -- temporarily, maybe for a few turns -- a few hours ago.  Then it went back to normal.  I guess the stat was my AC.
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22:19:12  unreal number?
22:19:12  four-digit number
22:19:12  like sqrt(-1)
22:19:12  hrm
22:19:12  I was about to make that joke :(
22:19:12  no, I think still a natural number.  :)
22:19:12  might have been a quaternion
22:19:12  yeah low hanging fruit and all
22:19:12  what would AC 25 + 22i do?
22:19:12  vimpulse: protect you from complex damage, of course!
22:19:12  ah!  :)
22:19:12  and you don't know what changed your AC?
22:19:12  It would probably be especially good against flaying.
22:19:12  <_<
22:19:12  I think I just pushed the power leap changes, but I'm not seeing it on Chei. Is there something I can check to see if I did it right?
22:19:12  gammafunk:  I suppose it was probably my cloak.
22:19:12  what I'm getting at is that you could run crawl through gdb (i.e. a debugger)
22:19:12  Lasty: oh, one moment
22:19:12  ah, well
22:19:12  gammafunk:  I do indeed have gdb installed.
22:19:12  there's a spriggan druid joke in here somewhere
22:19:21  03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-644-g06fa6ac: Tweak Cataclysm damage and status effects. 10(56 minutes ago, 1 file, 11+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=06fa6acccf29
22:19:21  03Lasty02 07* 0.16-a0-645-gb262963: Fixing Power Leap targeting 10(19 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b26296318664
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22:19:22  vimpulse: well if you can figure out the conditions (e.g. recreate the bug), you could get somewhere
22:19:25  gammafunk:  and I could look at the contents of variables, if necessary.  (Can't I do that from wizmode lua?)
22:19:38  woo!
22:19:41  well you can look at some things yes
22:19:47  oh, first Lasty commit commit
22:20:21  oh, are you a new dev Lasty? congrats
22:20:22  "The 1.5-headed ogre hits you with a hazy-looking weapon!  Your HP is down to 10 + 3i."
22:20:22  oh good, that vehumet wand vault
22:20:25  was so mean
22:20:26  Hopefully I didn't break anything
22:20:34  nrook: Yeah, just added. Thanks!
22:20:42  by definition you can't break anything in a project without tests
22:20:55  speaking of which, does that travis file actually correspond to a travis build?
22:21:34  ??ru_to_do
22:21:35  ru to do[1/5]: allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love
22:21:40  ??ru_to_do[4
22:21:40  ru to do[4/5]: Fix @ bug!!!
22:21:47  !learn del ru_to_do[4
22:21:47  Deleted ru to do[4/5]: Fix @ bug!!!
22:22:02  nrook: what's a travis file :(
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22:22:35  !learn edit ru_do_do[1 s|allow all powers under silence||
22:22:36  I don't have a page labeled ru_do_do[1] in my learndb.
22:22:37  this guy http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=.travis.yml;h=eca2012828f0092c1b7eff30e0b9fe60e4179bd4;hb=refs/heads/master
22:22:53  !learn edit ru_to_do[1 s|allow all powers under silence||
22:22:53  No change: regex `allow all powers under silence` does not match `allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love`
22:22:55  gammafunk:  It looks like the packages at http://crawl.develz.org/debian don't include debug symbols.
22:23:15  this is theoretically a configuration for a continuous build system called Travis: https://travis-ci.com/ no idea if it's hooked up tho
22:23:30  !learn edit ru_to_do[1 s|allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse|allow all powers under silence|
22:23:30  No change: regex `allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse` does not match `allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love`
22:23:39  now you have two problems
22:23:46  vimpulse: I'm sure they wouldn't; you can build from source (make debug-lite or make debug)
22:24:05  parens
22:24:10  !learn edit ru_to_do[1 s|allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse|allow all powers under silence|
22:24:11  No change: regex `allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse` does not match `allow some (or all) powers under silence/confuse; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love`
22:24:14  Oh
22:24:15  right
22:24:22  oh that's their commercial site, here is the opensource one: https://travis-ci.org/
22:24:56  !learn set ru_to_do[1 allow all powers under silence; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love
22:24:57  ru to do[1/4]: allow all powers under silence; don't pick up duplicate rings under sac hand unless octopode; "you're already wearing one cursed rings!"; mark Enslave useless under sac love; some unid'd wand marked as useless under sac love
22:25:08  gammafunk:  hmmm, and that repo doesn't contain -dbg (debug symbol packages) either.
22:25:29  awright, and with that I'm out for the evening. Good night, all.
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22:25:34  should I use the dlua interpreter, or the clua interpreter?
22:25:37  vimpulse: if you'd like to do any "serious" bug fixing it's probably best to build crawl yourself
22:26:18  but for that bug you really need to find some conditions to recreate it, and if you have absolutely no idea how
22:26:28  neither gdb nor lua will really help
22:27:00  gammafunk:  oh.  :(  Sad, but good to know.
22:28:58  gammafunk:  the_tower:  all:  Thank you very much for your time!  Maybe I'll think more about this problem tomorrow.
22:29:31  Yes better not to act on
22:29:33  !glasses
22:29:33  ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■)
22:29:38  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-646-g025011a: Fix compilation. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=025011a6464f
22:29:40  vimpulse
22:29:40  !!!!!!
22:30:23  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-647-gac278e4: Touch ups to mon-spll.h, spl-data.h 10(37 seconds ago, 2 files, 13+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ac278e411705
22:31:00  G'night guys.
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22:31:37  name is vimpulse, uses an emacs irc client
22:31:41  what. ever.
22:32:07  1learn add vimpusle
22:32:08  er
22:32:14  !banish typos
22:32:14  Grunt casts a spell. typos is devoured by a tear in reality!
22:33:29  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-648-g89316f41: Adjust select Depths vaults to try and reduce monster digging problems (minmay) 10(41 seconds ago, 4 files, 663+ 656-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=89316f412201
22:38:09  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-649-g8b08fbb: Ziggurat set / pillar tweaks 10(31 seconds ago, 2 files, 39+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b08fbb35648
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22:41:15  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-650-g275c35f: Scale Ziggurat monsters per floor very harsly to number of completed zigs 10(38 seconds ago, 2 files, 15+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=275c35f9b851
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22:42:15  yawning, stretching
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22:42:16  theTower: so is the worst case identical or substantially nastier?
22:42:25  substantially nastier
22:42:37  hm
22:42:43  in such a way to kill infinitezigging?
22:42:48  sadly no
22:42:54  fix
22:43:04  lua aide?
22:43:20  hell effect zig floors
22:43:25  that make effects every 5 turns
22:43:28  lazy design
22:43:33  just reposition
22:43:38  dang
22:47:37  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-651-g2c86161: Tweak great orb of eyes, draconian knight spellsets 10(39 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c86161b192f
22:48:43  I'm really hoping there's someone in their 4th zig that will transfer their save
22:50:20  I still haven't found good enough idea for my moon wizlab
22:50:25  New superzigs sound hilarious with Shatter
22:50:39  makhleb, glaciate
22:50:41  but I will persevere
22:51:08  magicpoints: just don't die on a zig:15 air floor!
22:51:28  !lg magicpoints br=zig
22:51:29  2. magicpoints the Devastator (L27 NaVM of Vehumet), blasted by an electric golem (bolt of lightning) on Zig:15 on 2014-09-17 23:13:01, with 610801 points after 39439 turns and 7:47:40.
22:51:39  yeah yeah
22:51:45  !lg magicpoints br=zig -2
22:51:46  1/2. magicpoints the Naga Porcupine (L27 NaAM of Jiyva), blasted by a hellion (burst of hellfire) on Zig:25 on 2014-02-17 20:36:56, with 1295939 points after 71228 turns and 11:03:45.
22:51:48  imo die to a lava fish instead
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22:52:31  That was a lava worm :)
22:52:32  magicpoints is maybe the best player we have that also can stress test every form of death
22:52:43  03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-652-gedecbb1: Monster HP bar edits 10(83 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=edecbb15d67d
22:52:43  03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-653-gc8e8cdb: Change the local tiles number font (again) 10(8 minutes ago, 25 files, 11+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8e8cdb14d7b
22:53:50  !lg * br=vaults s=name
22:53:51  14139 games for * (br=vaults): 109x 78291, 88x qtip, 78x 4thArraOfDagon, 77x gammafunk, 64x Nexos, 60x heteroy, 55x Grimm, 55x soul, 54x NyaaKitty, 53x Implojin, 52x Tenaya, 51x Vidiiot, 48x Surr, 43x Poncheis, 42x m1nced, 40x nmf, 40x johnnyzero, 39x puimuR, 38x Roarke, 38x Snack, 36x clouded, 36x Sky, 35x nht, 35x Palyth, 35x MorganLeah, 34x Tossi, 34x Sorbius, 33x murphyslaw, 33x mafalda, 32x M...
22:54:47  dangerous...
22:54:52  fonts are Highly Contentious things
22:54:58  theTower: I recently "buffed" mnoleg, but there are problems with tentacle AI; I have some half-formed ideas for further changes but ideas welcome
22:55:06  !lg * br=vaults /status~~mark
22:55:06  the tentacle AI I can hopefully fix
22:55:06  834/14139 games for * (br=vaults): N=834/14139 (5.90%)
22:55:15  !lg * br=vaults recent /status~~mark
22:55:16  307/2777 games for * (br=vaults recent): N=307/2777 (11.06%)
22:55:21  decent
22:55:23  gammafunk: tentacle connect failed! What the heck!
22:55:40  still working
22:55:45  Grunt: they sometimes just sit like north of him, not moving, while the player and mnoleg just duke it out!
22:55:57  not sure if starspawns have the same problem
22:56:15  gammafunk: hm
22:56:33  gammafunk: you're motivating me to put a starspawn in a wide open space
22:56:52 * gammafunk wonders where this is going...
22:57:08  gammafunk: so I can observe its tentacle behaviour, of course. What else?
22:57:24  Grunt: well actually, what seems to trigger it more is when the player positions around a corner, waiting
22:57:29  and mnoleg shows up
22:58:07  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-654-g244e2be: Put the Hall of Blades on Elf:2 (and another vault onto Elf:1) 10(43 seconds ago, 5 files, 479+ 66-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=244e2bef2528
22:58:09  well it's just very dependent on where the player and where the wall is; open spaces are actually better for the tentacles
22:58:17  ...woah
22:58:28  good dev
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22:59:35  hall of blades 2: electric morningstar boogaloo
22:59:49  Liiike.
23:00:01  Grunt: if you can't replicate it, let me know and I can find a tv
23:00:09  from a recent mnoleg kill where I saw it
23:00:24  !lm * cv=0.16-a uniq=mnoleg
23:00:24  151. [2014-09-18 01:09:43] wheals the Sensei (L27 DrTm of Ru) killed Mnoleg on turn 95269. (Pan)
23:00:25  i feel liek my commits pale in comparison to these >.>
23:00:26  gammafunk: well I need to get trunk working first
23:00:57  I didn't even know wheals could kill a pan lord
23:00:59  !lm * cv=0.16-a uniq=mnoleg -tv
23:01:00  151. wheals, XL27 DrTm, T:95269 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org).
23:01:35  03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-655-g6601527: Fix compilation (again). 10(61 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6601527e3698
23:01:57  arghle, barghle
23:02:11  anytime anyone pushes "Fix compilation" i panic and assume it's my fault
23:02:45  well wheals' tv illustrates another problem with the tentacles; if mnoleg spams xxx the player just gets surrounded with X
23:02:50  and the tentacles can't get in
23:03:12  I had thought maybe give him a version of forceful dismisall, but most players are killing him before he gets to that point
23:03:16  gammafunk: that one's easily fixable; have the tentacles be able to shove
23:03:26  yeah, wasn't sure if that's easy or not
23:03:35  shove as in what orc warriors do?
23:03:48  Yes.
23:03:51  k
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23:06:41  !lm * cv=0.16-a uniq=mnoleg -tv
23:06:41  151. wheals, XL27 DrTm, T:95269 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org).
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23:09:18  holy shit, these tenofswords changes are CRAAAAZY
23:09:20  I'm intrigued
23:09:50  gammafunk: interesting, I can get starspawns to exhibit the same problem
23:10:04  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-656-gd57bacc: Make curse skulls regularly mobile (and fast), give Murray  Black Mark 10(7 seconds ago, 9 files, 119+ 107-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d57bacc8c544
23:10:11  ah, I think I just found the tv, but glad you recreated it
23:10:11  'little more
23:10:17  !lm * cv=0.16-a uniq=mnoleg -4
23:10:18  148/151. [2014-09-17 10:52:17] DenpaOtoko the Peltast (L27 MfSk of The Shining One) killed Mnoleg on turn 77079. (Pan)
23:10:22  is the one fwiw
23:10:34  yeah they just sit up there
23:10:58  oh my, curse skulls move again?
23:12:25  theTower: interesting first line of that commit message
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23:12:49  well I guess it's the second line
23:12:56  %git :/.all of .lades
23:12:56  07tenofswords02 * 0.16-a0-654-g244e2be: Put the Hall of Blades on Elf:2 (and another vault onto Elf:1) 10(16 minutes ago, 5 files, 479+ 66-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=244e2bef2528
23:13:03  double arghle
23:14:10  my only crypt vault has no kills, I should fix that I guess
23:14:19  !lg * kmap=~cheibrodos br=crypt
23:14:19  No games for * (kmap=~cheibrodos br=crypt).
23:15:22  !lg * kmap=~ontoclasm s=name
23:15:22  62 games for * (kmap=~ontoclasm): 3x Roarke, 2x johnnyzero, 2x Assbag, tatara, vhorthor, ribbit, coldwave, Shadowmage952, wheals, 4tharraofdagon, Seacow, Rockman, morik, AmberJosephineLiu, KiloByte, TwilightSparkle, Yermak, AnAngryHobo, nobo, MorganLeah, guido, Drahman, kryft, vogonpoet, kekekela, Burgundy, darkli, korzok, wizardmeat, Exavian3, NekoRex, Dworfinn, rjrrt, xw, laan, ElderVIII, Magipi...
23:16:14  !lg * (( kmap=~gammafunk || map=~gammafunk )) s=name
23:16:26  565 games for * ((kmap=~gammafunk || map=~gammafunk)): 22x nooodl, 4x davidgn, 4x timbw, 4x dialectric, 3x Zermako, 3x Quantum, 3x dredsubb, 3x Charly, 3x flammie80, 3x qtip, 3x qw, 3x soloincognito, 2x gregunderscorem, 2x VolteccerJack, 2x Ditheos, 2x guilherme, 2x Gorice, 2x soul, 2x hyun13600, 2x axecop, 2x Tory, 2x Shard1697, 2x haldagan, 2x Tollymain, 2x MrRokkomies, 2x Eglamore, 2x styxcanad...
23:16:56  gammafunk: oh wow, I think this bug is as old as tentacles are
23:17:20  would it trigger for krakens?
23:17:26  gammafunk: yes
23:17:31  ah, interesting
23:17:32  gammafunk: the bug triggers if the monster doesn't move
23:17:39  !source mon-act.cc:1991
23:17:39  http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-act.cc;hb=HEAD#l1991
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23:18:19  ...heh
23:18:20  yep
23:18:23  that would do it
23:18:29  I think I can fix it.
23:18:35  it explains why they have a hard time keeping up with mnoleg
23:18:40  based on what I was seeing
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23:18:53  well a hard time moving into the proper position in general
23:19:10  I'm not even sure what the purpose of the position check is.
23:19:46  well does the move function interrupt the tentacle's action somehow
23:19:56  !function move_child_tentacles
23:19:56  http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc;hb=HEAD#l3034
23:21:05  I'm going to see what happens (locally) if I remove the check.
23:21:12  oh btw
23:21:16  The mnoleg tentacle misses you.
23:21:49  !send Grunt CAPSLOCK
23:21:50  Sending CAPSLOCK to Grunt.
23:22:15  fr: mini-Mnolegs
23:22:54  I have to slep. Thanks for taking a look and will read any commits you make
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23:23:02  dang
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23:23:24  give mnoleg self-rakshasa power
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23:23:42  raskol: you mean Mara power?
23:23:55  ...now that you mention it
23:24:00  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-657-gd17bf93: Hellemental hellsprings (Bring back wellsprings solely within Cocytus, zigs) 10(2 minutes ago, 12 files, 153+ 83-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d17bf937c492
23:24:00  03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-658-g6aad4a5: Allow monster tentacles to move if monster is immobile (gammafunk). 10(87 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6aad4a5fc53a
23:24:21  although that is a bit ambiguous (I think of Mara's main power being Illusion)
23:24:30  why not just give Mnoleg summon maras spell
23:24:35  which makes temporary maras
23:24:43  SPELL_SUMMON_MARA
23:25:00  summon panlord
23:25:04  Mnoleg gestures. Double trouble...
23:31:37  03Grunt02 07* 0.16-a0-659-g9ffe6a5: Show Mnoleg's tentacles as, well, "Mnoleg's tentacle". 10(56 seconds ago, 2 files, 8+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ffe6a5772a9
23:33:03  http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.24wmf19/extensions/wikihiero/img/hiero_G32.png
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23:35:06  ru altar?
23:35:29  would the zig scaling thing work with fractional factors? So that completing 18 floors scales the bext one by 2/3, etc
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23:35:46  patience, patience
23:35:58  rchandra: not sure why that would be necessary
23:36:16  or are you worried about people doing 26 floors then bailing
23:36:56  I'm not "worried" about it since zigs are super optional/casual but it'd be nice
23:37:40  orb of zig solves that, but then you lose the ability to do part of one in a game that wants to do a full one
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23:41:46  03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-660-g91a8848: Three unrand amulet tiles 10(18 seconds ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=91a88487c61c
23:46:39  delays, delays
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23:52:24  03tenofswords02 07* 0.16-a0-661-g10f4cc4: A twisted resurrection of phoenixes, as Bennu in Tomb 10(28 seconds ago, 14 files, 158+ 22-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=10f4cc480bcc
23:53:53  oh god you brought back elemental wellsprings
23:54:07  extended's optional
23:54:29  yeah
23:54:51  I mean in the "I thought everyone forgot those once existed" way
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23:55:30  hellephant's memory