00:01:37 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15.0-22-g71df38d 00:03:47 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-337-g5ff8576 (34) 00:07:38 (fr: "You swing at nothing" is "You stab at nothing" for pointy-end-goes-in weapons) 00:07:55 perhaps you are just using the spear Very Badly 00:08:19 magicpoints does know about instadeath from falling in lava, at least 00:09:22 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:09:37 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:10:59 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:12:21 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12:31 ? 00:12:36 o 00:12:57 !lg magicpoints milestone=~lava 00:12:58 Unknown field: milestone 00:13:05 !lg magicpoints ktyp=lava 00:13:06 1. magicpoints the God of Death (L27 DgCj), took a swim in molten lava on Abyss:3 (evilmike_abyss_rune_elephants) on 2013-05-15 02:41:27, with 1148562 points after 140132 turns and 16:28:36. 00:13:08 <3 00:13:09 there we go 00:13:15 casting tornado 00:13:37 !learn add magicpoints casts tornado, falls into lava 00:13:37 magicpoints[1/1]: casts tornado, falls into lava 00:13:45 the original ??magicpoints restored to former glory 00:13:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0/20140825202822]] 00:14:20 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:14:45 that was during the 0.13 tourney I think 00:15:11 good title too 00:15:12 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15.0-22-g71df38d (34) 00:15:13 wow, I didn't realize it was on the rune vault <3 00:15:35 heh, yeah it being a demigod especially 00:15:35 simmarine: you might say that death 00:15:35 !glasses 00:15:35 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 00:15:37 was godly 00:16:06 !lg * title~~god_of_death s=kaux 00:16:06 18 games for * (title~~god_of_death): 17x, bolt of negative energy 00:16:13 wow 00:16:15 mmm 00:16:20 oh 00:16:25 17x, 00:16:49 !lg * title~~god_of_death s=ktype 00:16:50 18 games for * (title~~god_of_death): 16x winning, lava, beam 00:16:55 BEAM 00:17:16 !lg * ktype=beam 00:17:17 540637. zarzak the Skirmisher (L5 MiBe of Trog), blasted by Grinder (nerve-wracking pain) on D:3 (grunt_ministairs_3) on 2014-09-07 05:14:47, with 158 points after 1570 turns and 0:04:31. 00:17:23 beem 00:17:24 weird 00:17:35 bool beem_is_beam == false 00:17:36 why is "beam" a ktype? 00:17:55 that was some real bad C++ right there 00:18:11 !lg * title=god_of_death ktyp=beam 00:18:12 No games for * (title=god_of_death ktyp=beam). 00:18:16 !lg * title~~god_of_death ktyp=beam 00:18:18 1. Iaido the Demigod of Death (L27 DgDK), blasted by Dousmol (bolt of negative energy) in Pandemonium on 2008-06-11 12:36:52, with 1655104 points after 198113 turns and 1d+8:13:45. 00:18:34 Dg 00:18:34 DK 00:18:35 hrm, what does beam ktype mean exactly? 00:18:36 ... 00:18:55 yeah that is a curious combo 00:19:09 shortly after the introduction of DK maybe? 00:19:09 dk used to be optional between "via magic" or "via a god" 00:19:20 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:19:35 dk itself has been around forever, i think 00:19:41 as in it was either a god start or a book start? 00:19:44 yeah 00:19:47 wow 00:19:47 rip fcloud Cj 00:19:54 hmm 00:19:55 <|amethyst> Was this before or after Pr^Yred? 00:21:50 <|amethyst> oh, I see, they existed at the same time 00:23:21 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:23:24 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:23:25 huh 00:23:31 tailslap does 6 * you.has_usable_tail() 00:23:42 which only returns 1 or 0 00:23:50 and always returns 1 in cases where you can do a tailslap 00:27:00 man, early crawl is weird 00:29:16 that is a very weird way to implement it 00:30:13 well 00:30:16 it literally does nothing 00:30:22 I mean I see what you were thinking 00:30:26 since that would be dumb but make a kind of sense 00:30:39 but as far as I can tell, it is just completely pointless 00:33:38 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:12 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:36:52 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 00:36:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:36:56 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:38:07 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:39:01 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:25 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 00:46:04 ugh 00:46:06 I swear 00:46:09 2/3rds of my special case code is 00:46:10 vampires 00:46:24 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-337-g5ff8576 00:48:29 4041 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 00:48:30 4080 | D:9 | the staircase to the Lair was a mimic. 00:48:34 5222 | D:11 | Quit the game 00:48:38 <3 00:48:40 who can I thank 00:48:45 um 00:48:47 jpeg maybe? 00:48:49 I forget 00:48:59 but I will take small bonus credit 00:49:42 it was a d:10 dummy entrance in that horrible "all doors" layout 00:50:02 it's not really fair to call it horrible I guess, at least if you're using autoexplore 00:50:17 I kind of think that one should have lower weight though 00:50:19 all doors layout? 00:50:28 oh 00:50:32 d layout, not lair entry 00:50:39 yeah 00:53:31 need to figure out which one that is 00:55:30 hm 00:56:46 !vault layout_jigsaw 00:56:46 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/layout.des;hb=HEAD#l1492 00:58:31 -!- serious has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:58:31 hm no 01:00:17 I'd thought it can place before d:9 but many of the layouts I'm looking at can't 01:00:18 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:27 I'm certain I've seen it pre d:9 01:00:38 layout_gridville maybe? 01:01:01 what file? 01:01:07 cellular growth 01:01:19 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-338-g13a2c82: Unbrace 10(82 seconds ago, 2 files, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=13a2c82de8ee 01:01:29 TODO: Less doors 01:01:31 -0.5 millimarvins 01:01:33 that's a start 01:01:35 roughly 01:02:21 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:02:28 what would happen if the codebase was to consume an entire megamarvin 01:02:40 utterly destroyed 01:02:54 imagine the person that makes the big save compat break commit 01:02:55 dang 01:03:20 it will probably be |amethyst anyhow I guess 01:03:39 (it's you) 01:04:03 wonder if I can &P layouts 01:04:40 aha! 01:04:48 this is not the layout I meant 01:04:54 this one is actually not as bad 01:05:07 tbh it's a similar idea but I like it a lot better 01:05:18 but the other map is just massive and the doors are truly endless 01:05:46 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 01:07:00 -!- Enthusiasm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:08:32 # Attempting to use this layout causes LUA runtime errors. 01:08:34 doh 01:08:36 should have read that 01:08:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:10:12 -!- excalibur03 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:10:58 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 01:10:58 hrm, I have honestly looked through every layout that could concievably be it... 01:21:25 encompass? 01:24:55 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:26:36 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0] 01:27:33 -!- vfoley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:28:37 no, it's definitely a layout, I'll just run a full debug build and generate D levels until I see it 01:28:57 I think that does print the layout at least 01:31:48 standing in a plant makes fedhas not care about it 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8936 by rchandra 01:39:40 hm. if we turned "green rats" into "river rats", we'd probably want them to be amphibious. 01:39:56 I wonder what that would do to sewers. 01:40:38 well really all rats should be amphibious 01:43:41 -!- MDvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:44:42 -!- Pepe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:52 hm 01:44:53 I am failing at sed 01:48:56 find -type f | xargs sed -i 's/green rat/river rat/g' 01:49:25 and then the same thing for MONS_GREEN_RAT, i suppose 01:49:39 yes I did that 01:49:51 find: fsim.txt: unknown primary or operator 01:50:01 and it dies without hitting a bunch of stuff 01:50:40 oh, you're probably on osx, which uses the stupid bsd find 01:51:18 yes 01:51:54 also get a lot of sed: RE error: illegal byte sequence 01:52:07 want me to just do it, since i have working unix tools 01:52:14 which seems to be it fucking with metadata; I get weird malformed image tools appearing 01:52:15 o 01:52:17 that sounds nice 01:52:23 but first I want to look at the des impacts 01:52:33 i'll put up a branch 01:52:43 rat branch or rename branch? 01:52:50 *general rename branch 01:53:18 just rat branch for now, unless you had intentions of going further 01:53:26 where's that page you made? 01:53:37 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:53:38 I think red wasp -> hornet was viable 01:53:59 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:monster:names 01:55:42 hahaha xuaxua attacked!!! 01:56:00 beware 01:56:03 the cerebron...... 01:56:05 heh 01:56:11 MEGAFROG 01:56:15 doy 01:56:16 I'd still like to just reduce the weight of green rat packs, maybe give a bit higher weight to orange rats 01:56:16 megafrog. 01:56:29 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:56:52 green rat (09r) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 6-16 | AC/EV: 5/11 | Dam: 10 | Res: 06magic(8) | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 13 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal. 01:56:52 %??green_rat 01:56:54 tangential but fair 01:57:01 I mean 01:57:04 quokka (16r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 1 | HP: 3-8 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 5 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 1 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 01:57:04 %??quokka 01:57:04 I kind of like the idea of making orange rats into those prehistoric one-ton rats 01:57:11 New branch created: name-reform (1 commit) 01:57:11 03doy02 07[name-reform] * 0.16-a0-339-g73b1067: green rat -> river rat 10(48 seconds ago, 20 files, 62+ 62-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=73b10670a225 01:57:14 please don't change giant orange brains 01:57:26 orange rat (04r) | Spd: 12 | HD: 3 | HP: 9-24 | AC/EV: 7/10 | Dam: 2013(drain) | evil | Res: 06magic(12) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 34 | Sz: little | Int: animal. 01:57:26 %??orange_rat 01:57:36 prehistoric drain 01:57:40 dinosaur liches 01:57:51 !! 01:57:58 ... 01:58:00 "kingbold" 01:58:04 turn bone dragons into bone....triceratops 01:58:32 uberoach 01:58:33 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:58:42 these are certainly something 01:58:43 doom roach 01:58:50 ya they're great 01:58:54 let's never speak of them again 01:58:58 those cool sea scorpion things, eurypterids 01:59:18 kobold corporal 01:59:24 aw, they're cute 01:59:35 the biggest ones could be 3 meters 01:59:54 and they're like mega-ancient, pre-scorpions/spiders 02:00:46 http://zerowoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jaekelopterus-rhenaniae-21.jpg 02:00:54 *adorable* 02:01:09 http://asterling.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341ed39853ef0120a57a28e5970c-800wi 02:01:19 doy: also while you are doing name reform please change all the "[word] demon"s 02:01:49 http://www.clubdesmonstres.com/best/img/arthropleura14.jpg haha 02:01:49 ontoclasm: i have demons on the list 02:02:06 it feels like blue and orange demons should be easy 02:02:11 so far I'm coming up short, tho 02:02:31 blue devils have that swooping thing these days, apparently 02:02:32 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:02:41 ya 02:02:43 !lg * t s=name 02:02:43 35327 games for * (t): 1265x rodofangel, 1069x gw, 654x Esse, 646x CrazyArbalest, 435x silentsnack, 344x Roarke, 282x gammafunk, 251x DeeEhm, 237x Sebi, 213x Kellhus, 184x hurafacha, 171x Sharkman1231, 169x tlatlagkaus, 168x Trashface, 154x perunasaurus, 152x jacquesderrida, 150x Phlounder, 148x gcw2014, 146x cerealjynx, 136x IPCA, 135x coolio, 134x spelunker, 134x LogicNinja, 132x Snack, 131x qw,... 02:02:58 what are the flying things from lovecraft called 02:03:05 nightgaunts or something 02:03:17 that is such a fantasy name 02:03:34 yep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightgaunt 02:03:40 ShadeDeymons 02:03:45 They sport a pair of inward-facing horns on their heads, and have clawed hands and a long barbed tail which is used to "tickle" their victims into submission 02:04:01 aw, how nice 02:04:23 i would be pleased if more demons had cat-on-keyboard names 02:04:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:04:33 dfghiuaiug 02:04:53 done 02:05:05 needs more x and q 02:05:08 naming demons is so easy! 02:05:13 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:05:16 lorocyproca 02:05:18 zxwqyujyhsd 02:05:25 imho buy a better cat 02:05:26 excellent 02:06:17 monesi is just not a good name. it's a cool animal but a bad name. 02:06:50 "onomatopeoia" 02:07:04 -!- bmfx has quit [Client Quit] 02:07:09 "borborygmus" 02:07:23 "fhwdgads" 02:07:33 borborygmus - wow. that is a word. 02:07:37 I have not encountered that before. 02:07:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:48 an awesome word 02:07:50 ??4 02:07:50 4[1/1]: The weaker {common demon}s: {blue devil}, {iron devil}, {orange demon}, {red devil}, {sixfirhy}, {hellwing}. 02:07:53 ??3 02:07:54 3[1/1]: The strongest of the {common demon}s: {sun demon}, {soul eater}, {ice devil}, {smoke demon}, {neqoxec}, {ynoxinul}, {chaos spawn}. 02:08:03 soul eater, I always forget those 02:08:06 fr: snake eater 02:08:08 need to rename chaos spawn 02:08:22 soul eaters are most notable for being preposterously durable 02:08:25 soul eater (063) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 44-77 | AC/EV: 18/10 | Dam: 2513(drain) | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(146), 02cold, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 809 | Sp: drain life, melee | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 02:08:25 %??soul eater 02:08:31 dang 02:08:31 neqoxec (133) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 21-45 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Dam: 15 | 05demonic, 10doors, evil, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(48), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++, 11silver | XP: 183 | Sp: malmutate, brain feed, sum.minor demon | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 02:08:31 %??neqoxec 02:08:35 stone giant (15C) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 68-108 | AC/EV: 12/2 | Dam: 45 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(85), 12drown | XP: 1423 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 02:08:35 %??stone giant 02:08:38 "cataleptic" 02:08:44 those are some decent defenses 02:08:47 ya 02:09:03 Soul Eater is like a really bad 80s metal band name 02:09:34 wow, the hd as well 02:09:41 sun demon (083) | Spd: 12 | HD: 10 | HP: 39-70 | AC/EV: 10/12 | Dam: 3004(fire:10-19) | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(80), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 10elec, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 12drown, 08holy++ | XP: 807 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 02:09:41 %??sun_demon 02:10:18 reaper (152) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 57-96 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Dam: 45 | 05demonic, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1483 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 02:10:18 %??reaper 02:10:22 sun demons are also surprisingly tough, but not nearly as much so 02:10:36 tough enough to not die before they hit for big 02:10:37 yeah soul eaters aren't far from reapers really 02:10:51 well. damage isn't quite as good :) 02:10:55 but defenses, yeah 02:11:00 no I meant defenses/hp 02:11:02 ya 02:11:12 soul eater makes good use of those too, with its draining 02:11:30 can kill you when you think you almost have it as it keeps healing 02:11:32 the sprite always throws me off because it looks "soft", like the neq or ynox 02:11:45 whereas the sun demon looks 'harder', spikier 02:11:47 I guess I'd like them more if their tile didn't look like the saddest sock puppet I've ever seen. 02:11:52 hahaha 02:11:56 since when do you look at tiles??? 02:12:03 when I bother other people 02:12:13 gammafunk you have Betrayed your Principles 02:12:37 how could I ignore our exciting 16-bit, 2-D graphics 02:12:51 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:13:00 hah 02:13:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 35.0a1/20140905030206]] 02:16:18 ??sound effects 02:16:19 I don't have a page labeled sound_effects in my learndb. 02:16:27 ??sound 02:16:28 sound[1/5]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jkorg2xnYI 02:18:45 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15.0-22-g71df38d 02:21:17 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:09 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:27:10 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-338-g13a2c82 (34) 02:28:41 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 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because of integer arithmetic? 04:18:36 wow 04:18:39 integer division strikes again 04:18:39 :| 04:19:20 I've even looked at that code and not noticed the bug 04:19:40 heh 04:19:49 It's not very noticable 04:20:14 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:23 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:20 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:21:55 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:39 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:26:06 -!- Tedronai has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:32 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 04:33:00 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:35:05 -!- sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:36:59 -!- Sky_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:37:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 04:38:28 -!- grit has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:39:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:39:05 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 04:46:26 -!- grit has quit [Client Quit] 04:47:47 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:50 Undead and negative clouds 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8937 by Yermak 05:08:03 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:10:03 -!- croikle has quit [Quit: croikle] 05:12:44 -!- FiftyNine has quit [] 05:16:46 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:22:31 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:27:50 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:06 causative brought up a good point about an offline game I'm playing; shadow creatures summoned an orb of fire, despite that I worship dithmenos, and some of the other summoning spells respect preferences of your god: http://i.imgur.com/CXxzn26.png 05:33:45 can you seriously get oofs with shadow creatures 05:35:00 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:35:51 not often enough :( 05:37:31 Oper80 (L14 VpEn) ASSERT(blood.sub_type == POT_BLOOD_COAGULATED) in 'rot.cc' at line 596 failed. (Lair:6) 05:38:37 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:41:32 !tell kramin well, even if 3 / 2 did evaluate to 1.5 it still wouldn't help since it's being stored in an int! 05:41:32 wheals: OK, I'll let kramin know. 05:41:43 suppose this is my fault 05:41:55 though i thought i just copied from brilliance 05:42:03 !source areas.cc 05:42:03 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/areas.cc;hb=HEAD 05:44:49 -!- kroki has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:46:57 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:36 isn't a vault that places two liches on d:11 a bit too spoilery 05:52:24 -!- Temporary has quit [Client Quit] 05:53:52 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:54:22 runed door/ 05:54:32 *? 06:05:57 Xom out-of-depth vault not sealed 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8938 by Blakmane 06:08:35 -!- Pratfall has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:10:16 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11:57 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:11:58 -!- [1]svendre is now known as svendre 06:14:19 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:16:50 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 06:17:17 -!- ___miek has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:18:59 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21:32 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:21:34 hmm, seems like I need to replace a console glyph 06:22:03 anyone know what "unnaturally hard rock walls" use nowadays? 06:22:45 wall_hard? 06:24:21 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:25:24 "permawall" 06:30:10 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:39:16 -!- JaGGedTK has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:39:57 read: no 06:40:17 just a couple wizards and a lot of lava and smoke as "warning" 06:40:32 and a bit of a zigzag path 06:40:44 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:40 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:48:43 -!- FlowRiser has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:49 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:01:44 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:03:17 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:02 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 07:09:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10:17 this guy just trapped himself in the orc:4 endvault 07:10:20 corruption blocked the only exit 07:10:25 and he can't teleport since he's fo 07:12:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:14:12 -!- kroki has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:19 hello i need help 07:14:53 I play FoAK in webtiles at the moment. I used corruption in Orc:4 cault and ended up sealing myself off with no way out 07:15:02 i cant dig through the vault stone walls 07:15:59 could anyone look into that? i am in webtiles at the moment 07:17:29 -!- Kadarus has quit [Quit: Bye] 07:21:17 any devs on? 07:21:41 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 07:25:28 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:47 -!- xFleury has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:29:23 <|amethyst> kroki: can you save? 07:29:24 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 07:29:38 you mean ctrl+s? 07:29:45 <|amethyst> kroki: yes 07:29:52 <|amethyst> kroki: and wait a sec before starting back up 07:29:58 i did save 07:30:03 okay i am waiting 07:30:09 thanks for taking interest 07:31:41 what you think about it 07:34:04 <|amethyst> Hm, someone else reported a similar problem about a week ago, on Snake:$ I think 07:35:03 any chance something will be done with it 07:35:13 it can probably happen with any undiggable vault with a narrow entrance 07:36:05 <|amethyst> kroki: I can hack your save to free you; moment 07:36:14 does rPois actually still protect you? 07:36:31 yes, it's less effective than before though 07:36:35 <|amethyst> Napkin: yes, 2/3 chance of preventing poisoning, and 2/3 reduction in impact damage 07:36:36 except against venom bolt / parrow 07:36:56 <|amethyst> it used to be 9/10 and 1/2 07:37:01 do nagas hurl that? 07:37:06 yes 07:37:14 Corruption can trap players 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8939 by neil 07:37:14 mages and greater ones anyway 07:37:15 naga ritualist (07N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 8 | HP: 47-75 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 14, 403(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(64), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 686 | Sp: force lance (3d12), toxic radiance, virulence | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 07:37:15 %?? naga ritualist 07:37:25 naga (03N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 5 | HP: 17-39 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 17, 303(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 162 | Sp: spit poison (d10) | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 07:37:25 %?? naga 07:37:27 I guess the solution is either 1) to veto a corruption if it blocks off connectivity or 2) to explicitly remove tiles until connectivity is restored (maybe a* algorithm with a very large but non-infinite cost for walls and remove all the walls in the path it finds?) 07:37:38 <|amethyst> I believe the 2/3 damage reduction should also apply to naga spit 07:37:39 corruption corrupts the game 07:37:43 so meta 07:38:14 wow 07:38:22 thank you amethyst 07:39:26 its ok to log in now? 07:39:35 <|amethyst> not yet 07:39:41 alright 07:40:18 anyway, that means a good shield is not more important to solve snake pit than rPois, huh? 07:40:23 *is now more 07:41:01 well residual poison never was the really lethal thing about snake 07:41:16 <|amethyst> Napkin: Well, I think people like elliptic and minmay were saying that the impact damage, which is now reduced further, is far more important than the status 07:41:44 parrow/venom bolt/sharpshooters and possibly guardian melee are what really hurts (+ shock serpents) and rpois is more important than ever for the first two 07:41:49 and it never had any effect on the rest 07:42:13 <|amethyst> kroki: try now 07:42:38 why cant jiyva cure any mutation instead of only bad ones? 07:42:40 it works thanks amethyst 07:43:06 <|amethyst> np 07:44:44 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:55 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:48:11 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 07:53:27 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 07:54:35 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:54:39 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:05 -!- neunon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56:15 -!- slitherrr has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:58:09 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:58:10 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:58:40 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 07:58:52 -!- serious has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:59:51 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:03:02 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:05:22 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:05:23 -!- [1]svendre is now known as svendre 08:08:57 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:13:04 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:13:54 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:14:02 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:15:42 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16:31 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:06 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:10 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:24:22 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:30:31 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:10 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:58 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:38:41 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:39:42 the way we handle screen redrawing really could use some work 08:39:49 we just call redraw_screen all over the place 08:39:57 and this leads to annoying flickering in a bunch of cases 08:42:04 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:42:42 really, we should only be calling redraw_screen when we're actually about to draw something completely different to the screen (like a menu or something) 08:43:30 since redraw_screen causes the screen to be cleared, and this is pretty noticeable over ssh 08:44:06 in particular, it's pretty annoying when autoexploring in spider, since getting caught in a web triggers a redraw_screen for some reason 08:44:18 but it's also noticeable for things like leveling up 08:44:48 -!- radinms has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 08:45:08 isn't that needed for "framing" for ttyrecs though? 08:45:16 to some extent, yeah 08:45:23 but not nearly to the extent that we use it 08:47:04 also, hm, I wonder if some of those could be made virtual. that is, only done if recording 08:47:05 it's only necessary in pathological cases anyway, since things like opening up a menu already cause a full redraw, and unless you're doing something really weird, you'll at least be opening your inventory or something often enough to deal with that 08:47:44 well, the place where it's irritating is in dgl games, because the extra latency from the ssh connection is what makes it noticeable 08:47:53 so that wouldn't really solve anything 08:47:54 and only done to the ttyrec log 08:48:34 that would be quite hard to get right 08:48:35 there's no reason it has to refresh the actual terminal unless the ttyrec code is *really* stupid (which it miiiight be...) 08:48:56 pretty sure we just use an external ttyrec binary for recording games 08:49:17 oh 08:49:17 <|amethyst> we do ttyrecs by recording the tty 08:49:28 that's unfortunate 08:49:50 even if we didn't, it'd almost certainly be an annoying source of bugs 08:50:02 to draw different things to the player's terminal and to the ttyrec 08:50:31 <|amethyst> also, does it really help if we flash all the observers' screens but not the players? 08:50:38 that too 08:51:27 anyway, i could fix this for the console version, but i don't know what assumptions are being made by the tiles code 08:52:09 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:52:17 not sure. it does use ncurses, this is fairly possible. and would enable fancier stuff too, but then you'd have to change the player (e.g. "virtual" full frames that could be used for synch but not played back) 08:52:25 and that's probably a lose 08:53:25 and so i'd probably break tiles if i actually tried to do this 08:53:42 might look into doing it in a branch though 08:55:15 -!- lamak has quit [Client Quit] 09:00:05 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:42 ?? pain brand 09:01:43 pain brand[1/2]: Brand which inflicts 1d(necromancy skill) extra damage on necro out of necro+1 successful hits. Does not affect those with rN (demons, undead, unliving, shadow dragons, death drakes, holies). (For the record, a monster's necromancy skill is HD/2, HD if undead or demonic, 0 if mindless/animal). 09:02:13 which of these is spectral weapon? it has int:plant but pain still works with it 09:02:24 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:02:25 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 09:02:46 Wow, just found an epic_bug: Dith hasn't been affecting people's stealth since 560c00287 09:03:01 Since interger division. 09:03:07 hahaha 09:03:29 how long is that 09:04:20 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04:53 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:05:05 Late April 09:05:41 !blame wheals 09:05:41 I pronounce wheals... Guilty! 09:06:34 (The best part is that commit is a bug fix) 09:06:59 <|amethyst> potatolizard: spectral weapon is MH_NONLIVING so shouldn't be susceptible to pain 09:07:19 |amethyst: as in casting spectral weapon while wielding a pain-branded weapon 09:07:27 <|amethyst> oh 09:07:43 I wish I'd heard that Dith didn't affect stealth before worshipping it just now 09:08:04 it definitely isn't undead or demonic and pain works so I suppose there's only one option left 09:08:22 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:08:29 Lasty: Technically, at exactly max piety it works correctly!!! 09:08:37 hahaha 09:08:37 <|amethyst> potatolizard: yeah, it looks like HD/2 from the code 09:08:41 no problem then. :D 09:08:42 <|amethyst> potatolizard: 09:08:43 <|amethyst> // Let spectral weapons have necromancy skill for pain brand. 09:08:43 <|amethyst> if (mons_intel(this) < I_NORMAL && !mons_is_avatar(this->type)) 09:08:43 <|amethyst> return 0; 09:08:55 oh, so it's special cased 09:08:58 cheers 09:09:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10:33 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:56 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:13:15 reaverb: good bug 09:13:53