00:02:00 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 00:02:06 -!- radinms has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:11 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15.0-11-g6f4f891 00:02:26 the link to the 0.15 android build needs to be fixed 00:03:00 "http://sourceforge.net/projects/crawl-ref/files/Stone%20Soup/0.15.0/crawl_tiles_android-0.15.0.apk/download" this is the good link 00:03:14 and also, thank you so much guys, for making the effort to build for android again 00:03:20 I really appreciate it 00:04:34 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-311-gfc68e25 (34) 00:04:41 <|amethyst> rockygargoyle: fixed, thanks 00:05:20 <|amethyst> we need some people who know SDL2 well 00:05:46 <|amethyst> since that seems to be a prerequisite for making a better android version 00:08:09 <|amethyst> and I have no idea how difficult moving our tiles code over to SDL 2 would be 00:08:20 <|amethyst> since I don't know how much the API has changed 00:08:31 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09:04 <|amethyst> (since I don't know SDL :P) 00:12:01 me neither 00:12:10 I tried to make the effort to build it all by myself 00:12:15 but god, how hard is it 00:12:41 I didn't think it would be much difficult 00:14:05 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:15:28 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:15:58 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-311-gfc68e25 (34) 00:19:15 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:20:10 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:25:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:31:27 -!- radinms_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:31:33 -!- flower has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:34:57 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-311-gfc68e25 00:35:40 !tell ontoclasm corpse rot 00:35:40 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 00:35:58 huh 00:35:58 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 00:36:09 also, two bugs 00:36:40 you get the messages "The lightning shocks something" and "Something calls forth creatures from " even when out of LoS 00:36:50 (from shock serpents and worldbinders respectively) 00:37:19 it stops resting which is irritating 00:37:39 funny bugs 00:41:02 <|amethyst> also, if it shocks multiple creatures, those messages really should be combines 00:41:06 <|amethyst> s/nes/ned/ 00:44:17 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:46 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:45:51 -!- Codrus_ is now known as codrus 00:51:12 should we worry that someone is creating a new account for each game they play on cszo to deliver us wonderful nicks such as "696969FART", "420bigpooper420" and "420piss69", in chronological order? 00:51:39 "420bigpooper420" 00:51:44 that's some art right there. 00:51:50 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:07 <|amethyst> maybe I should add 69 and 420 to sizzell's/henzell's suppression list 00:52:11 starting with a number pretty much guarantees these names show up at the top of the list 00:52:24 <|amethyst> (but that doesn't help with the tournament) 00:52:29 also you can be mesmerized by neutral mermaids 00:54:09 also rune flashes don't show up on webtiles even though i know they used to 00:54:35 they don't? 00:55:06 nope 00:55:13 at least the two i just picked up did not 00:56:43 <|amethyst> ontoclasm: did you change your delay? 00:57:14 i don't think so 00:57:15 <|amethyst> view_delay I mean 00:57:17 <|amethyst> hm 00:57:23 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:57:57 nope 00:59:55 just got a rune flash 01:00:01 in webtiles 01:00:01 hm 01:00:20 -!- Nstar has quit [Client Quit] 01:00:34 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 01:00:42 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:13 i was pretty sure i got one last time i got a rune. although that was a couple days ago on trunk 01:02:42 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-312-g8d72595: Don't message for off-screen serpent 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tree form 08:55:24 tree form[1/2]: Immobile form with -Tele, no hunger, no potion or food usage (in 0.14-), +50% HP, 20 + XL/2 AC, minimal EV, rN+++ rPois torment immunity. Unlike, say, statue form, tree form does NOT give rot or poison immunity. 08:57:08 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:57:09 -!- potatolizart is now known as potatolizard 09:00:06 -!- runewalsh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:03:09 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:06:35 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:09:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11:07 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:13:36 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:38 -!- mineral has quit [Changing host] 09:13:38 -!- mineral has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:39 <|amethyst> Napkin: hm.. tomahawk is in the default fire_order, and A is after c under the fire_items_start ordering 09:15:45 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 09:16:41 <|amethyst> Napkin: so not sure why () wouldn't have been working... you didn't have an inscription with "=F" in it somewhere, did you? 09:16:44 yeah, i had to manually include it in fire_order 09:17:09 no, i had a config from earlier versions with fire_order set 09:17:13 <|amethyst> ohh 09:17:17 <|amethyst> yeah, that will do it 09:17:17 and it didn't know about tomahawk yet 09:17:34 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 09:17:35 :) 09:17:38 <|amethyst> that's why we moved to "the config file is just comments" 09:18:02 everything commented out per default? 09:18:04 <|amethyst> yeah 09:18:08 ic ic 09:18:31 <|amethyst> all the defaults set somewhere else (either initfile.cc, or dat/defaults/*) 09:18:40 haven't meld'ed the configs yet 09:19:53 <|amethyst> !lg Napkin / won 09:19:53 9/1235 games for Napkin: N=9/1235 (0.73%) 09:20:00 the game played quite differently now 09:20:04 *play 09:20:06 *plays 09:20:41 can you ask !lg to show version of crawl of the games that i won? 09:20:49 !lg Napkin won s= cv 09:20:49 9 games for Napkin (won): 4x 0.11, 2x 0.8-a, 2x 0.6-a, 0.8 09:20:58 <|amethyst> !lg neil won s=cv 09:20:59 2 games for neil (won): 0.10-a, 0.9 09:21:00 so, 0.11 is last i played 09:21:23 !lg napkin s=cv 09:21:24 1235 games for napkin: 231x 0.8-a, 206x 0.3, 177x 0.11, 165x 0.6-a, 148x 0.7, 89x 0.8, 49x 0.6, 32x 0.4-a, 28x 0.7-a, 23x 0.5, 20x 0.9, 18x 0.9-a, 9x 0.12-a, 8x 0.10-a, 6x 0.5-a, 5x 0.4, 5x 0.10, 5x 0.13, 3x 0.2, 3x 0.15, 0.14, 0.15-a, 0.13-a, 0.12, 0.11-a 09:21:45 yeah, only a handful of games since then 09:22:18 they have just been tests if the newly installed version works, mostly :) 09:22:56 <|amethyst> Napkin: if you plan on playing any 0.15 in the next few weeks, you're welcome to join my tournament team 09:23:08 <|amethyst> I was making sure your win rate wasn't too high :) 09:23:20 hehe 09:23:39 i'm playing right now :) 09:23:45 what's your team? 09:24:02 <|amethyst> Young TrCKs - http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/clans/neil.html 09:24:11 <|amethyst> (harkenn = cryp71c) 09:25:45 done :) 09:26:17 <|amethyst> added on my side 09:26:36 <|amethyst> not sure how often the config scraper runs, elliptic? 09:26:46 <|amethyst> hourly or so? 09:26:58 probably 09:27:43 i wonder how efficient that config scraper is 09:28:04 <|amethyst> oh, whether it does HEAD instead of GET ? 09:28:13 <|amethyst> err, not HEAD I guess 09:28:24 <|amethyst> I guess that would be a partial GET 09:28:30 i doubt elliptic uses ssh.. i bet a local parser via cgi-bin would be saving lots of apache load 09:29:39 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 09:30:02 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:49 oh, and here i thought "depths" are locked by rune 09:30:58 <|amethyst> they were, but now it's Vaults 09:32:36 |amethyst: it is just a cronjob that wgets from the appropriate URL every 4 hours 09:33:01 how do you figure out which configs to get? or all? 09:33:23 well, probably all.. 09:34:09 wget -r -np -nH --cut-dirs=2 -R 'index.html*' http://crawl.develz.org/configs/0.15/ 09:34:42 is what I seem to have in the cronjob currently (for CDO) 09:35:25 if there's a more efficient way to go about things, it can certainly change 09:36:28 -!- potatolizard has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:36:44 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:37:59 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:50 elliptic: http://crawl.develz.org/cgi-bin/teams-0.15.sh 09:44:08 Napkin: cool, I can certainly alter the scripts to use that instead (and update more frequently than every 4 hours if you want too) 09:44:24 sure 09:44:41 i mean, it's lots less connections and apache load 09:44:47 right 09:44:51 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:45:01 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:15 -!- lostinadungeon_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:45:34 if you'd like the output differently, let me know. for now it's a plain "grep TEAM *.rc" 09:46:06 <|amethyst> hm, bash (etc) could really use a nosortglob shopt 09:46:24 i think it has 09:47:00 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: schuft] 09:47:04 <|amethyst> ah, perhaps; I have 4.2 still 09:47:28 heh, cdo is squeeze 09:47:49 -!- potatolizard has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:55 nothing in man page about it 09:48:13 -!- potatolizard is now known as Guest5433 09:48:25 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:49:36 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:51:18 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:51:35 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:39 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 09:53:06 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:57 axe & slime creatures = ❤ 09:54:42 very cool 09:54:53 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:55:10 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 09:55:12 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:55:30 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:56 You shouldn't be able to auto travel while in the range of visible enemy (with polearms) even if there's lava terrain between 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8915 by nago 09:55:59 Napkin: can you change that to 'grep -n "^# TEAM" *.rc'? 09:56:07 -!- Hissalht has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:56:41 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:54 sure 09:57:16 <|amethyst> oh, you only accept them at the top I guess? 09:57:20 yeah 09:59:11 maybe head -2 *.rc | grep "^# TEAM" would be easier for you? 09:59:33 no, doesn't show the name - nevermind 09:59:48 changed, elliptic 10:01:05 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:01:55 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:02:08 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:06:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:19 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:09:47 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:44 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15.0-12-gccce430 (34) 10:11:00 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:14:50 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:15:10 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21:36 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:21 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:30 -!- Shard1697 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:42 -!- Guest5433 is now known as potatolizart 10:27:58 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:29:05 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:31:34 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:35:14 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 10:37:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:43:01 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:55:06 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:07 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:58:45 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 11:07:22 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:10:30 -!- potatolizart is now known as potatolizard 11:17:50 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:48 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:17 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 11:24:40 apparently chei is ok with chaos weapon berserk but not with haste 11:24:44 that seems inconsistent 11:24:59 I thought chei allowed berserk but blocked the haste part 11:25:39 no I mean hasting/berserking monsters while wielding a chaos weapon yourself 11:26:05 berserking monsters with chaos under chei still hastes them 11:29:34 -!- RodericNull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:31:20 <|amethyst> ah, because there is no beam type for haste 11:31:30 <|amethyst> !source attack.cc:813 11:31:30 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/attack.cc;hb=HEAD#l813 11:31:35 <|amethyst> would need something around there 11:32:44 in fact in a best case scenario berserking monsters with chaos increases piety gain 11:32:50 since the monsters are faster when you kill them 11:33:02 (no I don't believe this is actually an issue) 11:33:08 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:33:10 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:33:16 <|amethyst> yeah, the chance of haste probably makes up for it 11:34:51 Napkin: okay, tourney scripts are now switched over to using that cgi (every 15 minutes at the moment) 11:34:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:35:06 <|amethyst> but chei should still be annoyed, as e is with needles of frenzy 11:35:16 cool, thanks, elliptic 11:35:54 other servers are also welcome to switch over to that system of course 11:36:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:33 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:19 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:47 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:55 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:54:21 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57:22 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:21 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 12:00:22 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:02:30 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15.0-12-gccce430 12:06:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-312-g8d72595 (34) 12:06:35 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:09 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:00 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 12:15:30 -!- Ryak has quit [Quit: On the other hand, you have different fingers.] 12:16:06 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:28 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 12:23:07 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:31:17 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:17 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:33:57 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:34:21 do enemies not flee anymore? 12:34:51 -!- Earlo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35:06 just bears :) 12:35:08 besides things like bears, no 12:35:19 so is it only bears at this point? 12:35:20 oh, aha 12:35:25 krakens too i think 12:35:34 and of course if you read a scroll of fear 12:37:21 do dragons still flee or is it only bears and krakens that turn tail and flee 12:38:00 nope, dragons are brave now 12:38:11 bears and krakens: the most cowardly of all animals 12:38:22 actually, scratch the bears 12:38:36 those stop running away once they go into a berserk rage 12:40:21 -!- potatolizard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:43:37 03wheals02 07* 0.16-a0-313-gd7fe310: Make a tree temple slightly more open. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7fe310a58d5 12:45:50 -!- potatolizard has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:14 -!- potatolizard is now known as Guest128 12:49:29 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:53:18 -!- Guest128 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:54:36 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:55:40 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:59:51 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:00:13 elliptic? wondering why my game on cdo is not showing up on http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.15/clans/neil.html - did i forget to export something? 13:00:40 or because my game was saved and inactive when the last check was running? 13:00:59 -!- greensna1k is now known as greensnark 13:02:00 woah, hi greensnark :) 13:02:13 Hey Napkin :) 13:02:33 how's it going? 13:02:41 Pretty good, how are you? 13:03:33 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:03:57 dito - relaxing a bit and playing crawl for a change ;) 13:04:54 switched jobs, buying a house... quite some stress recently ;) 13:05:05 -!- potatoli1ard has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:41 Oh nice :) 13:08:36 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:08:45 I keep seeing that the overall economy in Europe is still in bad shape. 13:09:01 How's the scene there? 13:10:13 i'm not qualified to answer that ;) it guys can get nice jobs, it seems - is all i know :) 13:10:50 I think that's the case in most places :) 13:10:54 are you still in the US? 13:10:58 Yes 13:11:03 cool 13:11:11 Scene here is pretty good for IT :) 13:11:49 great :D 13:13:12 i'm employed now in public service - finally some safer play 13:13:32 and now, brushing teeth with my son ;) bbl 13:14:44 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:14:57 most would use a toothbrush 13:15:24 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:16:45 rchandra: <3 13:21:24 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:44 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:56 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15.0-12-gccce430 13:25:06 -!- gutt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:14 -!- lgft has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:26:45 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:28:23 meh :-P 13:28:57 -!- potatoli1ard has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:29:20 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:30:51 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:39 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:47 Bloax: can you send me those edits you did of roc's weapons 13:40:01 the green demon weapons and the mace are whatever 13:40:03 and* 13:41:19 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/WEAPONS2.png 13:41:30 wow wtf 13:41:31 just a second 13:41:43 ? 13:42:14 there 13:42:39 The shadows got fukt. 13:42:58 mm 13:43:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:44:18 -!- Mise has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:23 -!- Mise is now known as potatolizard 13:44:58 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:45:31 can clubs glow now? i remember somebody maybe changing that 13:46:14 yes, but they'll only be generated glowing if they're one of ijyb or jessica or erolcha's ridiculous mega-clubs. 13:47:13 mm 13:47:24 still need a tile probably 13:47:47 well, erolcha gets a giant one and i have tiles for that 13:48:16 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:49:57 make it a ridiculously ornate dark red spiky club 13:50:23 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:51:33 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:52:28 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:55:35 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:57:08 -!- Chris__ is now known as Luterac 13:57:20 -!- herself1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:57:22 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:00:41 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01:42 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:07:02 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:08:59 -!- Luterac has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:02 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:11:37 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:13:20 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:14:09 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 14:16:46 -!- Ratboiler has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:19:50 -!- Cannonbait has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:20:00 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:05 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21:23 -!- Xen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22:57 i made it a dark red club with horns and a mean face on it 14:23:07 so yeah basically what you said 14:23:57 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:22 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:25:21 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:25:59 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Bye] 14:26:18 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:24 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:19 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28:29 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:43 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32:04 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140830030204]] 14:32:26 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 14:33:02 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:16 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36:08 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 14:38:45 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:41:35 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: Killed by a kitten.] 14:43:16 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:26 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:54:02 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:57:46 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 14:58:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:03:08 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:06:27 -!- gutt_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:09:06 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1184173/OODmadness.png 15:09:10 what just happened to OOD?? 15:10:00 nothing? 15:10:15 well, I've seen wyverns in D:4 15:11:07 d:3 15:12:05 (that is, I got a sleeping d:3 wyvern once. tiptoed away...) 15:12:28 i've had an ice beast on d:1 before 15:12:41 isn't that a bit.. early? 15:12:47 ice beast (12Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 5/10 | Dam: 512(cold:5-14) | amphibious | Res: 06magic(20), 12cold+++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 130 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 15:12:47 %??ice beast 15:12:50 ogre (07O) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 16-38 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Dam: 17 | 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20) | XP: 119 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 15:12:50 %??ogre 15:12:59 very 15:13:09 ??black_bear 15:13:09 black bear[1/2]: They go berserk when they are afraid: 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ZZZzzz…] 18:05:38 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:04 -!- espressodan has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:25 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: welp cya] 18:08:55 -!- Rokko has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:09:20 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:10:07 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:05 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11:12 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:22 !tell tzero black bears normally start spawning on d:6; they're no more OOD in d:3 than a mummy or giant spore would be. not quite madness, I think 18:11:23 Sorry PleasingFungus, I don't know who tzero is. 18:11:29 dang. 18:11:57 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:12:09 what's the most ood thing that can spawn on D:1 normally 18:12:30 I once had a D:1 ogre as the first enemy I saw, for instance 18:12:57 no idea 18:13:57 rip d:1 ogres 18:15:04 there was of course the ancient version that dumped a d:1 yaktaur captain on me 18:15:45 %git :/aptain 18:15:46 07ontoclasm02 * 0.14-a0-2655-g23f6408: Singing Sword & Captain's Cutlass tiles (Bloax) 10(7 months ago, 2 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=23f6408bb2ee 18:16:21 hm 18:16:46 ahh 18:16:48 %git 1cc53ffcb 18:16:48 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-907-g1cc53ff: Don't spawn a centaur warrior on D:1 (78291). 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1cc53ffcb78c 18:19:51 I've spent less than 800 turns on D:4 18:19:55 and I'm now facing at least two yaks 18:20:01 are we certain that there's nothing funny in OOD? 18:20:03 ??yak 18:20:03 yak[1/1]: These creatures also love centaurs. See {yaktaur} 18:20:16 -!- Reverie is now known as Reverie|Away 18:20:37 hm, could that food vault spawn that early? 18:20:46 -!- Reverie|Away has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:20:54 why is it open then? 18:21:27 geekosaur: want to see? 18:21:30 http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/TZer0/TZer0.txt 18:21:37 http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/#watch-TZer0 18:21:38 extreme OODs have always happened rarely even after relatively few turns on the level 18:21:52 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:04 what happens after 2000ish turns on the level is that they start getting much more common, not that they start 18:22:47 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 18:23:58 I also had a hungry ghost on D:3 18:24:03 keep in mind that this is a DDNe 18:24:06 I'm not stopping to rest 18:24:12 this is constant run around and find trouble. 18:24:14 none of these are even that extreme as OODs go 18:24:21 well, okay, I rest for magic 18:24:26 -!- Reverie has quit [Client Quit] 18:24:44 I think with mild OODs like those, the level might even be able to generate with them (rarely) 18:25:31 but before Depths, I believe that it was theoretically possible to get a lich on D:1 after 600 turns... just incredibly unlikely 18:25:50 hmm 18:26:03 !lg * killer=hungry_ghost recent s=place 18:26:03 164 games for * (killer=hungry_ghost recent): 35x D:3, 23x D:7, 21x Abyss:1, 18x D:4, 15x D:2, 11x D:8, 9x D:6, 9x D:5, 8x D:10, 6x D:9, 5x D:1, 2x D:12, D:13, D:15 18:26:05 why not prevent this? 18:26:21 see, D:3 hungry ghost isn't really OOD 18:26:34 !lg * killer=yak recent s=place 18:26:34 3505 games for * (killer=yak recent): 732x D:9, 430x D:8, 405x D:10, 399x Lair:1, 229x D:7, 188x D:11, 169x D:6, 166x Lair:2, 162x D:5, 106x D:4, 102x Lair:3, 72x Lair:4, 66x D:12, 49x IceCv, 45x Lair:7, 41x Lair:5, 35x Lair:8, 24x D:3, 23x Lair:6, 21x D:13, 9x D:15, 8x D:14, 5x Abyss:1, 4x D:2, 4x D:16, 3x Temple, 2x D:1, D:17, Orc:2, Lab, Slime:1, Forest:5, Forest:3 18:27:18 !lg * killer=black_bear recent s=place 18:27:18 765 games for * (killer=black_bear recent): 184x D:6, 163x D:3, 151x D:4, 62x D:5, 56x D:7, 46x D:2, 35x D:8, 23x D:9, 16x D:1, 11x D:10, 4x D:11, 3x Lair:1, 2x Temple, D:15, Sewer, Abyss:1, Ossuary, Lair:4, Lair:2, Lair:8, D:12, D:16 18:28:01 I don't think I've ever seen an orc priest on D:1 or 2 though 18:28:12 TZer0: I tend to agree that there should be some cap on OODs, but I think the cap should be higher than anything you've mentioned so far :) 18:28:28 D:2 orc priests happen fairly frequently 18:28:38 D:1-2 are a bit special though 18:29:40 because "normal" OODness is capped by your absdepth or something like that, so D:1 only has a fairly limited list of monsters until you spend enough turns for extreme OODs to start happening 18:29:51 huh. fire crabs could probably be moved a bit shallower in d 18:29:55 currently they're OOD only 18:29:58 which seems excessive 18:30:43 PleasingFungus: maybe, though remember that slight OODs aren't that unusual 18:31:12 sure, but currently d:15 regularly has yaktaur captains and fire/frost/stone giants 18:31:17 no it doesn't 18:31:20 those are in vaults 18:31:26 well, yeah 18:31:49 mm. it does have fire dragons, though 18:32:12 fire dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 72-106 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1072 | Sp: b.flame (3d24) | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 18:32:12 %??fire dragon 18:32:14 fire crab (04t) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 38-65 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 1504(fire:8-15), 1504(fire:8-15) | !sil | Res: 06magic(42), 04fire+++ | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 780 | Sp: b.flame (d12) | Sz: small | Int: insect. 18:32:14 %??fire crab 18:33:36 yeah, I agree that's strange that fire dragons are shallower than fire crabs there 18:33:51 also why are fire dragons shallower than ice dragons 18:33:56 ice dragon (16D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 72-106 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 17, 17, 1707(trample) | cold-blooded, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(48), 02cold++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 04fire | XP: 986 | Sp: b.cold (3d24) | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 18:33:56 %??ice dragon 18:34:11 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 18:34:24 ...that is a strange difference in attack damage 18:34:25 also why is ice dragon less XP despite having nearly identical stats and higher melee damage 18:34:28 yes 18:34:29 yes 18:34:37 um. lower MR? 18:34:54 that probably explains the XP difference, yeah 18:34:56 but whyy 18:35:08 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:35:08 I got nothing, man. I got nothing. 18:37:23 buff ice dragons 18:37:48 nerf simmarines 18:39:28 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:43:09 -!- hauzer has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:45:49 should i sit on these tiles until after tourney or push them now? 18:45:56 -!- stitchedbelch has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:35 I would probably push them now - I strongly doubt it'll cause any bugs or issues, and I don't think it'll distract people from the tournament 18:47:36 too much 18:47:38 ; ) 18:48:30 xD 18:48:49 -!- Cannonbait_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-314-g90f71cd: LBl tiles (roctavian) 10(10 days ago, 21 files, 20+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=90f71cdd7722 18:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-315-g1e90f05: SBl tiles (roctavian) 10(10 days ago, 13 files, 0+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e90f0582c8c 18:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-316-gedfd48a: M&F tiles (roctavian) 10(4 hours ago, 32 files, 14+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=edfd48a65a3e 18:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-317-gacab0e4: Axe & Staff tiles (roctavian) 10(80 minutes ago, 23 files, 2+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=acab0e4478c3 18:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-318-g4c4b6fb: Pla tiles (roctavian) 10(61 minutes ago, 19 files, 2+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4c4b6fb95126 18:49:10 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-319-gba7a3ea: Holy & demon weapons (roctavian & Bloax) 10(9 minutes ago, 13 files, 6+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ba7a3ea6cdb8 18:49:37 what have I unleashed...? 18:50:28 ontoclasm: why do you prefer a clashing exec axe tile 18:52:25 because it's cool 18:52:49 it's fine if randarts look crazy as long as it's clear what they are 18:52:52 (which it is) 18:53:11 also what would it be clashing with 18:53:29 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:32 look at how flat they are 18:53:38 and compare it to the sweet battleaxes 18:53:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:54:19 yeah i don't see it, battleaxes are darker but that's it 18:54:52 dang 18:54:55 -!- espressodan has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:54:56 the new executioner axe tile 18:54:57 is cool 18:55:18 -!- luukano_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:55:33 i find the randart exec axe more silly than anything 18:55:54 it's rad 18:55:58 i mean it's cool if you want to reshade them or something but the ones you sent me just look like you applied a big gradient to them 18:56:52 your other ones were good though 18:57:05 the art dweapons for instance 18:57:26 ironically the ones that i spent the least effort on 18:57:30 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:01 * ontoclasm shrugs 18:59:45 also i lke how 18:59:49 the arte claymore tile 18:59:52 is the master sword 19:00:00 yes 19:00:22 the art gsc and qblade are pretty rad too 19:00:32 what about the eudemon blade 19:00:47 i used your eudemon blade i think 19:00:58 (which means i need a new singing sword) 19:01:16 well i doubt many people will be seeing both at the same time 19:01:29 well no, but they shouldn't look the same 19:01:39 in particular because the singing sword is not a eudemon blade 19:01:49 it's, what a long sword still? 19:01:53 bastard sword? 19:02:13 bsword 19:02:25 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-320-ge4c7fa7: Spell icon stragglers 10(2 minutes ago, 5 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4c7fa755149 19:02:27 -!- Adeon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:36 sharnga needs to redone too since it looks liek a shortbow 19:02:40 like* 19:02:45 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:02:51 -!- bhaak_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:53 -!- kilobyte_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:05 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:36 ontoclasm: spoiler: you can use https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/abom/GrimAbomination3.png this guy for the twisted resurrection 19:03:49 dang this looks dated 19:04:48 i can't even tell what that is 19:04:53 i guess it has legs 19:05:19 shade it bro :C 19:06:14 -!- hhkb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:14 -!- espressodan has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:24 -!- geekosaur has quit [Excess Flood] 19:07:25 -!- elliptic has quit [Excess Flood] 19:07:36 -!- Kalma has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 19:07:36 -!- hhkb has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 19:07:36 -!- joy1999 has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 19:07:36 -!- ebering has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 19:07:36 -!- dougsko has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 19:07:36 -!- djanatyn has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:36 -!- namad8 has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 19:07:36 -!- Adeon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:37 -!- kilobyte has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:37 -!- Xjs|moonshine has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:37 -!- Kalma_ is now known as Kalma 19:07:43 -!- hhkb_ is now known as hhkb 19:07:44 -!- eviltwin_b has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:49 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:50 -!- espressodan has quit [Client Quit] 19:07:56 -!- eviltwin_b is now known as geekosaur 19:07:59 -!- espressodan has joined ##crawl-dev 19:09:20 -!- bhaak has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 19:09:20 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 19:09:21 -!- Lprsti99____ has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 19:09:25 -!- Lprsti99_____ is now known as Lprsti99____ 19:11:30 -!- bcarpe211 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:11:30 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:11:30 -!- Mandevil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:11:30 -!- fiyawerx_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:11:30 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:12:02 -!- lorinal has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:17:26 -!- hauzer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:44 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/abom/GrimAbomination4.png hurrr 19:18:20 looks like a lobsterman 19:18:26 that's a bit better 19:18:34 L:5 - first teleport scroll found 19:18:54 he's still gonna vanish into the floor in a bunch of places 19:18:55 fun. 19:19:13 due to being a bunch of dark brown lumps 19:19:34 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:45 -!- djanatyn1 is now known as djanatyn 19:20:08 IMO we need a lobsterman unique just so that tile can find its true purpose 19:20:35 make harold a lobster 19:20:41 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:21:36 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:05 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:24:45 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:48 Theres a lobsterman tile? 19:26:24 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/abom/GrimAbomination4.png hurrr 19:26:50 Kinda looks like a plague shambler 19:26:54 -!- rkd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:28:01 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: on y dort] 19:29:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:31:27 wheals: can we use drills against it? 19:31:48 ontoclasm: Harold is a frog 19:31:52 ontoclasm: I thought this was well known 19:33:06 i thought he was going to become a tengu at some point 19:33:23 !send wheals Sojobo 19:33:23 Sending Sojobo to wheals. 19:34:02 -!- morphix0 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:34:46 fr: Sojobot 19:34:49 plays exclusively TeRe 19:35:18 !send Grunt notqw 19:35:19 Sending notqw to Grunt. 19:35:32 !send wheals notgw 19:35:32 Sending notgw to wheals. 19:35:39 !send Grunt's CPU 100% use 19:35:40 Sending CPU 100% use to Grunt's. 19:35:51 actually, that worked out ok 19:39:55 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:47:32 -!- wya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:47:40 -!- wya_ is now known as wya 19:51:17 -!- mineral is now known as read 19:51:47 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:42 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:56:34 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:03 -!- djinni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:04 -!- ivan`` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:15 -!- codehero is now known as codile 20:00:37 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:00:45 -!- codile is now known as codehero 20:01:00 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 20:01:01 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:40 -!- Un67 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:03:04 -!- raskol_ is now known as raskol 20:03:18 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:04:13 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:04:54 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:04 -!- djinni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05:49 -!- serious has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:06:05 -!- eb is now known as eb_mobile 20:06:11 -!- eb_ is now known as eb 20:06:40 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 20:08:15 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:59 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:27 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:17:04 -!- ivan`` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:17:04 -!- djinni has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:19:20 !lg * t killer~~"ugly thing" 20:19:21 55. newbestfriend the Bludgeoner (L12 GrAK of Lugonu), slain by a white ugly thing on D:12 on 2014-09-01 00:43:00, with 21580 points after 20134 turns and 1:20:03. 20:19:34 !hs * t killer~~"ugly thing" 20:19:35 55. Wark the Brawler (L18 TrWr of Dithmenos), mangled by a white very ugly thing on Vaults:1 on 2014-08-31 18:44:16, with 217458 points after 42946 turns and 3:42:50. 20:19:48 !lg * t killer~~"ugly thing" s=xl 20:19:49 55 games for * (t killer~~'ugly thing'): 18x 11, 12x 10, 6x 12, 4x 9, 4x 8, 3x 16, 2x 14, 2x 18, 1, 13, 7, 15 20:19:51 !lg * t killer~~"ugly thing" s=br 20:19:52 55 games for * (t killer~~'ugly thing'): 49x D, 3x Abyss, 2x Vaults, Depths 20:19:54 !kw ugly killer~~ugly_thing 20:19:56 Defined keyword: ugly => killer~~ugly_thing 20:19:59 heh 20:20:01 !lg * ugly 20:20:02 3805. newbestfriend the Bludgeoner (L12 GrAK of Lugonu), slain by a white ugly thing on D:12 on 2014-09-01 00:43:00, with 21580 points after 20134 turns and 1:20:03. 20:20:05 !lg * ugly t 20:20:06 55. newbestfriend the Bludgeoner (L12 GrAK of Lugonu), slain by a white ugly thing on D:12 on 2014-09-01 00:43:00, with 21580 points after 20134 turns and 1:20:03. 20:20:27 ?/userdef 20:20:28 Matching entries (1): sequell[2]: https://loom.shalott.org/userdef.html lists user-defined keywords/commands/functions. 20:21:00 -!- Siegurt has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:21:18 !kw allt t0.7|t0.8|t0.9|t0.10|t0.11|t0.12|t0.13|t0.14|t0.15 20:21:19 Defined keyword: allt => t0.7|t0.8|t0.9|t0.10|t0.11|t0.12|t0.13|t0.14|t0.15 20:21:30 !lg * allt ugly s=cv 20:21:31 526 games for * (allt ugly): 176x 0.14, 70x 0.12, 63x 0.13, 56x 0.15, 49x 0.7, 42x 0.10, 36x 0.9, 26x 0.8, 8x 0.11 20:22:22 !kw ugly 20:22:23 Keyword: ugly => killer~~ugly_thing 20:22:24 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:26 good kw 20:22:45 fr: the bot, kw 20:23:08 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:22 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:26:32 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:27:17 "The orc priest calls down the wrath of Beogh upon you. The orc wizard convulses in agony!" 20:27:17 doy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:27:20 is that intentional? 20:27:34 i know some monsters do it 20:27:38 doy: yes 20:27:42 okay 20:27:48 eh 20:27:49 it seems odd though 20:27:54 i mean it's sort of weird 20:28:00 or was the wizard invisible? 20:28:04 * Grunt gestures at doy. ontoclasm convulses! 20:28:06 then it would make sense 20:28:08 oh 20:28:10 yeah 20:28:12 that's it 20:28:14 never mind 20:28:16 (: 20:28:16 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:18 forgot i had see invis 20:28:23 * ontoclasm scowls terribly! 20:28:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:28:40 i guess pain never misses 20:28:46 * Grunt scowls horribly, then vanishes. 20:28:46 yeah 20:28:46 ? 20:29:11 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:29:13 ! 20:29:38 A scroll of acquirement and a potion of experience come into view. 20:30:24 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Roka3x.png an pissed off martian orc comes into view 20:30:35 doy: we were talking about removing the "upon you" from that 20:30:37 the other day 20:30:38 in context of angels 20:30:54 yeah 20:31:14 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:40 on another note, how much did the ranged combat rework actually affect damage numbers? 20:31:58 it feels like centaurs are a lot less deadly now, but i'm not sure if that's just me making things up or not 20:32:23 no 20:32:29 I was talking with someone else about this 20:32:35 centaurs and yaktaurs got accidentally nerfed a bit 20:32:42 Bloax: Fuck. Yeah. 20:32:43 I was worried about it at the time, but fsim is kinda broke and so I couldn't confirm it 20:33:12 also, I have discovered the true purpose of death channel 20:33:18 it is scroll of immolation. 20:33:25 (the answer is always scroll of immolation) 20:33:53 TZer0: what's the best scroll to use when surrounded by enemies?? 20:33:55 <_< >_> 20:34:06 Grunt: Not an issue! get rF++ and smash skulls 20:34:08 hm, i should make more branches close to crypt in terms of how dark their tilesets are 20:34:15 TZer0: imo "make pancakes" 20:34:19 PleasingFungus: yeah, it feels like they could stand a bit of an unnerf 20:34:20 it's so much easier to see monsters 20:34:27 yaktaurs are probably still more dangerous now if you have elemental resists 20:34:29 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:34:32 doy: 4.1 ai 20:34:39 since then having branded ammo/weapons doesn't hurt them 20:34:42 * ontoclasm flickers and vanishes. 20:34:42 ontoclasm, doy: do it!!! 20:35:22 !lg * cv=0.15 / killer=centaur 20:35:23 125/12275 games for * (cv=0.15): N=125/12275 (1.02%) 20:35:26 !lg * cv=0.14 / killer=centaur 20:35:27 2006/136736 games for * (cv=0.14): N=2006/136736 (1.47%) 20:35:51 this HIGHLY scientific and exhaustive research has concluded that they are much less dangerous now 20:36:00 !lg * t cv=0.15 / killer=centaur 20:36:01 106/10076 games for * (t cv=0.15): N=106/10076 (1.05%) 20:36:03 er 20:36:07 !lg * t / killer=centaur 20:36:07 106/10076 games for * (t): N=106/10076 (1.05%) 20:36:10 !lg * t0.14 / killer=centaur 20:36:12 957/62592 games for * (t0.14): N=957/62592 (1.53%) 20:36:16 !lg * t0.13 / killer=centaur 20:36:18 863/54272 games for * (t0.13): N=863/54272 (1.59%) 20:36:24 !lg * t0.12 / killer=centaur 20:36:25 980/50350 games for * (t0.12): N=980/50350 (1.95%) 20:36:30 huh 20:36:33 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:44 gosh darn it, I think I got grunt_swamp_rune_castle 20:36:44 might still be too early to really judge, though 20:36:51 never done this one somehow 20:36:57 oh, it's our resident dier to c's 20:37:04 I built a rune vault once... but it sank into the Swamp. 20:37:09 ??blame 20:37:10 I don't have a page labeled blame in my learndb. Did you mean: blade, flame. 20:37:14 !blame gammafunk 20:37:15 I pronounce gammafunk... Guilty! 20:37:15 !lg . su 20:37:16 50. wheals the Caller (L1 OpSu), slain by a giant gecko on D:1 on 2014-08-31 21:12:34, with 5 points after 330 turns and 0:00:44. 20:37:19 oh 20:37:27 !hs . t su 20:37:28 3. wheals the Caller (L8 OpSu of Sif Muna), shot by a centaur (arrow of frost) on D:7 on 2014-08-31 21:10:42, with 1607 points after 8082 turns and 0:18:06. 20:37:28 wheals: you made it all the way to d:1 20:37:50 I did a speedrun of that, found lair, pronounced it "doable" and gave up 20:37:58 I would be a-ok with an un-nerf, yeah, doy 20:38:39 !lg * cv=0.15-a / killer=centaur 20:38:39 2947/254621 games for * (cv=0.15-a): N=2947/254621 (1.16%) 20:38:42 !lg * cv=0.14-a / killer=centaur 20:38:43 5265/361661 games for * (cv=0.14-a): N=5265/361661 (1.46%) 20:38:48 !lg * cv=0.13-a / killer=centaur 20:38:49 3917/258649 games for * (cv=0.13-a): N=3917/258649 (1.51%) 20:38:55 does armor/shield affect ranged attacks in .15? 20:39:10 it did in 0.14 too 20:39:11 i remember in .14 you could wear CPA with 12 STR and no loss of accuracy 20:39:18 wait, really? 20:39:22 oh, you mean YOUR ranged attacks 20:39:26 yeah 20:39:39 has that been "fixed" yet? 20:39:39 no clue 20:39:46 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Roka4.png now with *COLORS* 20:40:30 he has no mouth and he must complain loudly 20:41:26 i can tell you for a fact that it looks best without a mouth 20:43:18 got another "game ended unexpectedly" during a normal exit, this time while saving and quitting. game seemed to save normally. 20:43:52 rast: ranged attacks now use the same code as melee, so I expect that has been fixed, yes 20:43:59 also, now that i'm playing games, i'm regretting not cherry-picking that "really ignore this sacrificable thing" prompt fix 20:44:01 and also the funny bug where armour didn't affect melee acc either 20:44:05 ?! 20:44:08 that existed 20:44:09 ya 20:44:10 ? 20:44:27 but there were lots of times where youd get the message about missing because of armor 20:44:37 that 20:44:43 that's what made it funny 20:44:47 or funnier at least 20:44:58 ya 20:45:03 in the video game league of legends 20:45:07 which my little brother plays far too much of 20:45:20 I am told there was once a bug involving a certain ability, which was supposed to increase damage 20:45:24 it did not increase damage 20:45:39 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:48 but it *did* increase the little damage numbers that floated above characters, when they got hit 20:46:02 good 20:46:03 !!!! 20:46:10 PleasingFungus thats the worse :( 20:46:12 the important part, really 20:46:14 ya 20:46:29 that's why we don't display damage numbers!! 20:46:32 so the equivalent of language = grunt 20:46:34 apparently they kept trying to buff the character, over the course of years, and were confused about why he always seemed to stay weak! 20:46:40 ontoclasm: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 20:46:53 if only the little damage numbers looked at the damage actually done 20:46:56 fr: language = !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, you get one ! for each point of damage you do 20:47:23 * Grunt flattens wheals like a pancake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 20:47:32 You pummel the ogre?? 20:47:41 Grunt: language = grunt makes crawl worth playing. 20:47:51 bh: thank pubby, not me 20:47:52 :) 20:49:03 Getting "beam is likely to hit you" when displayed target area indicates that I am safe 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8918 by battaile 20:49:05 thanks for the eggplant, btw 20:49:19 * Grunt throws tomatoes at bh. 20:49:20 fr language = grunt replaces the names of backgrounds wtih more impressive versions 20:49:28 ontoclasm: BATTLEMAGE 20:49:29 skald -> SWORD WIZARD 20:49:29 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 20:49:48 death knight -> SKULL KING 20:49:54 WEAPONCEROR 20:50:24 Grunt: I'm not taking a picture of my tomatoes. 20:50:29 chaos knight -> JESTER 20:51:25 huh. I'm being chased by a headless formicid ghost 20:51:37 a what now 20:51:38 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:52:10 the headless antman 21:00:43 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140830030204]] 21:03:02 -!- Brannock is now known as asfdlkj 21:03:09 -!- asfdlkj is now known as Brannock 21:07:39 do vs bites not use unarmed combat? 21:08:28 they do not 21:08:32 why not? 21:08:40 no other aux attacks do 21:08:48 oh, really? 21:08:52 i always assumed they did 21:08:58 yeah, it was changed around 0.10 21:09:01 oh, okay 21:09:08 more just me being out of date, i guess 21:09:10 (: 21:15:21 -!- Siegurt has quit [Client Quit] 21:16:55 a potion of mutation can give you +1 and -1 to the same mutation as two of the three mutations chosen 21:17:01 that seems boring 21:17:26 it can also give you zero mutations 21:17:49 (by failing to give a mutation three times for various reasons) 21:24:53 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:37:34 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:05 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:41:59 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 21:43:42 -!- Tarquinn has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:54 Dynast (L18 MuFi) ASSERT(in_diamond_int(r->start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 166 failed. (Elf:3) 21:49:15 what 21:49:16 rip 21:49:19 !crashlog Dynast 21:49:20 1. Dynast, XL18 MuFi, T:57669 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Dynast/crash-Dynast-20140901-024853.txt 21:50:05 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:51:14 "The naga warrior disappears! Something loses its grip on you." 21:51:22 message order ): 21:51:27 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:51:29 (unrelated to the crash) 21:52:46 doy: i dunno if it was fixed but it was possible to get weird messages with distort weapons blinking or teleporting stuff 21:52:53 yeah, that's what that was 21:53:02 mm 21:53:23 -!- asdflkjh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:56:05 ??something 21:56:05 something[1/5]: The naga mage disappears! Something loses its grip on you. 21:56:17 ??it[lose your grip 21:56:18 it[16/42]: It loses its grip on you. You lose your grip on it. 21:56:35 crawl_confessions 21:59:09 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:59:52 -!- lorinal has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:09:53 -!- Sovek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:11:00 -!- CatPlusPlus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:11:01 -!- Tarquinn has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:12:12 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:15:40 fr: ravens should inflict blindness with their attack 22:15:50 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:18:46 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:33 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:43 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:24:40 we should get wang tiles in crawl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_tile 22:28:14 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:38 +bh: read http://nothings.org/gamedev/herringbone/ 22:29:49 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:42 -!- discreetrowan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:31:31 ontoclasm, any chance of a Geryon sprite update? 22:31:35 he's looking pretty ancient 22:31:49 PleasingFungus: yeah, I've seen it 22:32:11 sorry, what? 22:32:11 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 22:32:33 er -- Patashu, not PleasingFungus 22:32:41 rip 22:32:54 PleasingFungus: how DARE you have your username start with the same letter as mine! confusing poor people who use tab ;) 22:32:59 (tab completed to the wrong P-name) 22:33:09 r i p 22:34:38 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:34:50 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:26 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:43:33 Brannock: yeah i should probably get around to that 22:44:15 also i would def. add in wang tiles if somebody wrote the logic to get them to placeproperly 22:45:35 :P 22:45:58 i guess geryon is from rltiles? 22:46:26 so he's on The List in any case 22:46:28 ontoclasm: I'm clueless about tiles code 22:46:30 what are wang tiles? 22:46:42 bh: we should get wang tiles in crawl http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_tile 22:46:44 Brannock: it's a method for constructing an aperiodic tiling 22:46:50 ooh 22:48:30 i could replace the hellbinder wizlab floor with those because as everyone knows the halting problem is Satans' Work 22:50:33 brannock: http://nothings.org/gamedev/herringbone/ 22:52:39 Patashu: it's pretty and all, but crawl is very grid-based 22:52:57 so is the examples on that page? 22:53:01 not sure I see your point 22:53:26 herringbone tiles would probably work fine for generating levels 22:53:42 but what's the point for using them to select which particular wall sprite gets placed where? 22:54:03 bh: normal wang tiles are square 22:54:21 so you could just use them to make a cool pattern on the floor 22:54:33 ontoclasm: right. Hooray :) What's the point of using herringbone wang tiles in that case? 22:54:35 (and alternately to generate levels) 22:54:41 well, you wouldn't 22:54:44 you'd use the normal ones 22:55:09 ^ hence my question at 53 minutes 22:55:42 idk, i guess i lost the thread at some point >.> 22:56:33 ontoclasm: currently I think the best floors in crawl are in hell. the worst are Snake 22:57:09 mm 22:57:31 have you seen FLOOR_MOSAIC 22:57:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:57:45 (it doesn't show up in game anywhere) 22:57:46 can you get a bot to paste it here? 22:58:38 i don't think i actually have a screenshot of it, i should make one xD 23:00:15 give me a sec 23:00:26 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]] 23:01:27 crawl i changed one line why must you rebuild everything 23:02:28 we could start using ninja: http://martine.github.io/ninja/ 23:04:24 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:04:33 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:05:20 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/mosaic.png 23:05:27 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:34 i made it a while back but couldn't decide what to do with it 23:06:19 wow damn 23:06:21 that looks cool 23:06:27 that needs to get used somehow 23:06:29 pan or abyss or w/e 23:06:44 it's based off of this: http://celticmythpodshow.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/pic-2.jpg 23:12:00 -!- Xenobreeder_ is now known as Xenobreeder 23:13:00 do we care about https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2608 anymore 23:13:27 i mean, i don't particularly disagree with the ticket, but it has been that way for like four years now and nobody has cared enough to change it 23:14:45 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 23:15:31 -!- Luterac has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:21:30 doy: I really dislike Elf walls but I also only rarely enter Elf 23:22:01 so that explains why I haven't tried to campaign for changing it, at least :P 23:29:21 elf walls are fine in tiles :) 23:29:24 -!- Stoats has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:33:01 PleasingFungus: i actually wanted to make the grey parts a bit darker to match the green/clue ones 23:35:59 -!- HoneyLocust has joined ##crawl-dev 23:37:26 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:52 "multicolor walls are fine in elf, in tile" 23:38:57 s 23:39:33 -!- SomeStupidGirl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:40:23 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:41:01 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:44:59 -!- gutt_ is now known as gutt 23:45:12 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:47:05 -!- thedrillkeeper has quit [Client Quit] 23:48:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:50:54 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 23:51:49 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:18 -!- Adder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:56:54 03doy02 07* 0.16-a0-321-g9a421ca: add message for base stats when prompting for stat gain (1472) 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a421caf5c72 23:57:22 thanks, doy 23:58:47 interesting that one of our top players dislikes elf 23:58:59 I also rarely enter it, but for other reasons 23:59:07 anyone look at infiniplex's elf patch? 23:59:18 I think the idea is neat, but I do have at least one concern 23:59:48 which is the single-tile corridor along the wall leading up to the main vault entrance