00:00:00 4021/8008 games for goodplayers (recent xl>17): N=4021/8008 (50.21%) 00:00:07 as is extremely strong if you don't play it as any kind of stabber, yes 00:00:19 "gotten to lair and you win" is a bit of a hyperbole 00:00:21 (" 00:00:23 (: 00:00:30 little bit 00:01:02 it's a strong start, sure, but it's not an unbalanced one, and there you are using the "win button" with throwing (most likely) 00:01:30 I mean maybe some adjustmant downward for accuracy with 0 skill, but lots of weapons are great at 0 skill 00:01:59 I would probably adjust the actual poisoning downward with skill 00:02:34 well however; the poison is what really does the damage (with no enchant) 00:02:42 with or without enchant 00:02:46 for poison needles 00:02:51 (curare is fine) 00:03:02 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-b1-108-g303fa6c 00:04:43 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:50 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-248-g1308768 (34) 00:04:59 oh are we talking about 00:04:59 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:06 unlimited basic ammo for bows/xbows? 00:05:17 one of my favorite topics! 00:05:33 we talked about that for two seconds and then got distracted with an argument about blowguns 00:05:40 !lg goodplayers recent class=as / won 00:05:43 144/2973 games for goodplayers (recent class=as): N=144/2973 (4.84%) 00:05:44 !lg goodplayers recent class=be / won 00:05:48 471/7890 games for goodplayers (recent class=be): N=471/7890 (5.97%) 00:05:50 well 00:05:54 "extremely strong" might be hyperbole 00:06:01 PF: Blowguns are different because all ammo would be branded basically 00:06:12 nearly as good as --be seems pretty good 00:06:13 so there's no asymmetry concern 00:06:29 yeah, so stepping back - what problem are we trying to solve by automulching? 00:06:36 let me find the gdd thread 00:06:53 -!- Insomniak has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:06:56 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:06:59 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: goodnight] 00:07:42 right. no running around picking up ammo after every fight, mainly 00:07:43 famous_last_words 00:07:47 what's your hurry with the release, PleasingFungus? if you mean me with "single person's schedule conflict" then go ahead.. wether CDO is updated or not doesn't matter much with so many servers around nowadays. if you mean Eino, then it's not very precise talking about schedule. he just looked at some code and said it could use some more polish. 00:07:47 Napkin: You have 20 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:07:50 ergh 00:07:55 doy: If players actually want to play an archer, it can be a bit annoying because 00:08:07 you have ammo management early game which is sort of annoying 00:08:11 Napkin: Hello! 00:08:12 and then it becomes irrelevant 00:08:13 Yes, I did mean you 00:08:32 so you're more playing "scrambling for ammo" than archery imo 00:08:35 20 messages, someone's popular. 00:09:18 i consider the polished code to be the bigger argument. had eino not written that email i would have just mentioned here, that cdo will be delays with updates. 00:09:38 well, we've been in feature freeze for nearly the whole month 00:09:47 which I think is the longest freeze for any release in some time (ever?) 00:09:50 (not sure) 00:10:05 the code is, by crawl's standards, pretty polished at this point! 00:10:08 anyways, glad you are doing the release, you make the decision 00:10:25 all right. sorry again for not emailing about this earlier! 00:10:31 it just completely slipped my mind. 00:10:59 nah, no problem, happens, especially on the first time doing a release 00:11:11 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:25 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:25 just wanted to make sure you don't "feel like an ashole" - that shouldn't happen 00:11:42 thinking that, i mean 00:12:08 ah, okay. thank you! 00:12:20 what are you going to be OOO for? vacation? 00:13:04 i think keskital's point is more than just improving code: the tutorial and hints mode are not too well maintained and getting them repolished in time for release seems important 00:13:09 i've been on vacations during a few releases already ;) no, a week of learning how to properly deal with some NAS clusters. 00:13:21 heh. sounds fun. 00:13:49 wheals: I know there's been some work on the tutorials lately; I think |amethyst was doing that? 00:13:57 TS__: yeah, that was kinda my question - maybe we could do something like give players an unlimited supply of unbranded ammo for their launchers, and leave branded ammo with the current mulch rules 00:13:58 <|amethyst> not I 00:13:59 hints mode I touched some 00:14:08 oh 00:14:10 someone was 00:14:12 doy? 00:14:14 %git :/utori 00:14:14 07Keskitalo02 * 0.15-b1-82-g4aef8f9: Tutorial: Keep boots from turning into bardings. 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4aef8f9a0772 00:14:15 <|amethyst> doy: I think that's one of the things that was proposed 00:14:18 heh 00:14:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:14:19 doy: That is exactly what I think is good 00:14:21 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: Eino :) 00:14:27 ofc! 00:14:31 so you can play a dang archer when you start Hu/AM 00:14:31 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:14:32 I should've known 00:14:43 and not "lol time to poke things with 0 skill shortsword to conserve ammo" 00:14:53 i mean sure itll be OP I gues 00:14:59 but we have lots of OP things in crawl 00:15:01 haha 00:15:03 may as well make them work well 00:15:07 and be fun 00:15:10 rather than annoying as hell 00:15:30 re: assassin 00:15:40 yeah, unlimited basic ammo will need another launcher rebalance, of course, but my only real concern with it is the technical implementation 00:15:44 greaterplayers have a better recent % with as than with be 00:15:45 i remember my first hunter i had to scum arrow traps for ammo (back when they gave unlimited arrows) 00:15:54 and greaterplayers is slightly less arbitrary than goodplayers 00:15:57 I think it can go forward with or without wider mulch changes 00:16:02 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Quit: bye] 00:16:12 !lg greaterplayers be s=name 00:16:13 6072 games for greaterplayers (be): 588x elynae, 579x ophanim, 568x minmay, 461x NyaaKitty, 408x pivotal, 276x 78291, 263x jeanjacques, 249x MorganLeah, 240x DrKe, 202x reid, 182x ToastyP, 175x surr, 129x araganzar, 128x MarvinPA, 128x IonFrigate, 124x Roarke, 110x magistern, 109x HilariousDeathArtist, 92x WalkerBoh, 90x clouded, 81x johnnyzero, 78x hyperbolic, 77x SGrunt, 62x n1000, 51x Wahaha, 5... 00:16:21 !lg goodplayers --Gl / won 00:16:21 <|amethyst> would it be reasonable to make magic dart cost zero mp? 00:16:24 656/19847 games for goodplayers (--Gl): N=656/19847 (3.31%) 00:16:38 |amethyst: is this an analogy 00:16:53 other bgs aren't far from Be in absolute numbers in terms of winrate 00:17:05 <|amethyst> to infinite ammo 00:17:14 yes. well. 00:17:15 <|amethyst> in the early game particularly 00:17:17 be is a favourite of new players tho 00:17:27 limited ammo is of course relevant in the early game. 00:17:28 I am aware of this! 00:17:31 goodplayers aren't new players 00:17:44 yes 00:17:45 I am not saying that basic ammo should be made unlimited as a UI improvement. (though it would, hopefully, be that.0 00:17:51 some people are new players for a long time 00:17:56 I am saying that it should be changed for design philosophy reasons. 00:17:57 let me find it... 00:18:06 gammafunk: logicninja is now a goodplayer 00:18:08 as of two days ago 00:18:24 gammafunk: I'm not really sure what your point was 00:18:50 If I was going to define the niche of ranged combat, it would probably be the use of "ranged weapons"; being able to upgrade your weapon in the same way that you can with melee weaponry. Sort of the inverse of Transmutations, which (insofar as the school has a focus at all) is magic that helps you attack in melee, with "upgrades" based on getting higher-level spells( castable), not better... 00:18:51 ...weapons. Neither of these are niches that need to exist, of course, but they're fun to play with. 00:18:53 Ammo, in that view, is not at all core to what ranged weapons are About. It's not a very relevant limit right now outside the early game, and if it were relevant, as you noted, it would let people screw themselves over a way that isn't very consistent with Crawl's philosophy. 00:18:56 eb_: it was related to PF saying As having a goodplayer winrate close to Be as support for his argument that it's "extremely strong" 00:18:56 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-248-g1308768 (34) 00:18:56 though to be fair I'm also not sure what *my* point is 00:19:13 yeah it's kind of a wide-ranging discussion at this point 00:19:15 ah 00:19:21 I like butts 00:19:28 gross 00:19:32 no u!!! 00:20:02 |amethyst: essentially, I'm again trying to move ranged weapons a little bit closer to melee weapons 00:20:06 would you nerf bow damage again with unnlimited basic ammo? 00:20:16 or just shortbow 00:20:19 for instance 00:20:26 shortbow, mayybe. 00:20:29 you don't do more damage with bows for the vast majority of the game if you have unlimited ammo 00:20:30 PleasingFungus: yes, you nailed what i disliked about it :) 00:20:35 wheals: heh 00:20:39 yeah, I figure by the time your ammo is effectively infinite 00:20:41 you have a longbow 00:20:48 shortbow only has 9 base dam btw 00:20:52 gross 00:20:55 hand crossbow is more likely to need adjustment 00:21:11 o yea 00:21:17 since it is balanced on the basis of very limited bolt ammo 00:22:00 well the problem with ranged philosophy in general is that it just doesn't really interact with crawl's strengths well; melee requires much more careful positional thinking, conjurations at least requires careful mp management in exchange for less positional thinking 00:22:05 ranged just kind of is 00:22:33 need more interesting ammo brands 00:22:34 not advocating removal, but it'll never be as good as either melee or conj 00:22:41 never is a long time! 00:22:44 and that's probably just that without some really clever thinking 00:23:00 I doubt very much ammo brands could solve its overal design problems 00:23:05 but again not saying we remove it 00:23:11 that's too bold for Crawl Development 00:23:18 idea: harpoon brand 00:23:24 tyvm wheals 00:23:35 <|amethyst> gammafunk: now you're just trying to use reverse psychology ;) 00:23:36 well 00:23:42 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:44 I think ranged+magic could be a fun archetype 00:23:47 with the right spells 00:23:47 rubber brand 00:23:55 the arkane marksperson lives......... 00:23:58 imagine for instance ledas+ disjunction + bow 00:24:01 much laughs 00:24:03 to be had 00:24:05 wow 00:24:14 imagine what now 00:24:15 well the problem is 00:24:20 of course tons of PX 00:24:23 magic is a luxury if you have good ranged 00:24:23 XP* involved there 00:24:27 oh, yeah 00:24:34 just saying, there is some room for fun there 00:24:36 you can just hold down tab and kill everything without taking damage anyway 00:25:35 go sil-style, only one special race with weird drawbacks can use ranged 00:26:12 sil does that? 00:26:21 well sort of, as tabstorm 00:26:23 *ask 00:26:29 no 00:26:29 noldor and sindar 00:26:30 tabstorm, tell me about sil. 00:26:32 both can use archery 00:26:39 no not for ranged but 00:26:40 dwarves suck at it 00:26:41 like for axes? 00:26:42 and humans suck at everything 00:26:44 oh 00:26:52 Well dwarves get axe affinity 00:27:02 so basically "You are using axe" 00:27:06 sil has dwarves? 00:27:09 Hell yeah 00:27:14 huh 00:27:17 its tolkein 00:27:20 there are dwarves 00:27:23 I dunno...something something Tolkein something Elbereth 00:27:30 I got the impression was that it was like... good elves, shitty elves, humans 00:27:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:39 there are noldor (uber elves) 00:27:43 sindar (suck elves) 00:27:49 but sindar are still good actually 00:27:53 naugrim (dwarves) 00:28:01 and edain (human) edain sucks at everything 00:28:07 realistic 00:28:08 theyre like mummies 00:28:10 basically 00:28:11 need more dun to be better 00:28:27 I like that I have to know elven in order to know the "real" species 00:28:31 or whatever that language is 00:28:37 what? 00:28:43 its just the name 00:28:44 sindar? naugrim? 00:28:45 noldor/sindar 00:28:50 are the elves 00:29:04 that is a lot of work to memorize that 00:29:06 and then the "classes" are houses that affect starting stats a bit 00:29:16 do they have funky names? 00:29:18 like fingolfin gets a free will ability 00:29:19 I was reading someone complaining that crawl had gone on a campaign against tolkein races and was removing all of them 00:29:22 finarfin per ability 00:29:24 etc. 00:29:27 ok, finarfin? 00:29:28 we're down to just two! races of elf! 00:29:32 i like finarfin 00:29:32 now you're trolling; I rest my case 00:29:34 no 00:29:38 open the game lol 00:29:54 noldor are the high elves, btw 00:30:01 time to remove humans, like all of tolkien's books have them 00:30:01 so you can be a high elf in sil too! 00:30:02 I really did like dpeg's idea to remove the tolkein references and fully realize crawl's kind of "go it alone" style wrt theme 00:30:10 yes 00:30:20 well 00:30:23 some of us fuckin' hated LotR 00:30:44 i dont see how people get upset about this flavour stuff 00:30:46 I liked lotr 00:30:48 when I was a child 00:30:49 dpeg was always pretty insistent about orcs and elves being friendly 00:30:52 these days i don't really care 00:30:53 its just the name of the race of the guy im bumping into dudes with 00:30:58 no big deal 00:31:01 orcs being friendly? 00:31:07 I thought crawl's orcs and elves were friendly 00:31:12 eb_: they are 00:31:13 oh I see 00:31:14 there's orc ambassadors and such in elf 00:31:14 yea there are orcs in the elves halls sometimes 00:31:27 well as much as apparitions of the orb can be friendly i guess 00:31:27 eb_: specifically because that's different from tolkien 00:31:29 also I'm not really convinced that you can have "orcs and elves" and also "remove the tolkein references" 00:31:33 because, I mean 00:31:37 orcs 00:31:37 dont remove my Orcs 00:31:39 tolkein 00:31:45 i like orcs 00:31:48 of course you can 00:31:49 they have good axe apt 00:31:55 So I guess Mennas and Mara and Khufu are friendly 00:31:59 <|amethyst> they're mostly second-hand tolkein references anyway 00:32:00 anyway, fr: you should be able to shoot arrows through passage of golubria 00:32:08 <|amethyst> filtered through D&D 00:32:12 wow doy 00:32:16 that's....well that's interesting 00:32:18 you can have quartets with guitars without being a beatles tribute 00:32:27 trick shots 00:32:27 <|amethyst> that's how the game works 00:32:28 not really, unless you mean 00:32:29 I like it 00:32:29 shoot dudes out of los 00:32:35 of course that analogy is wrong but you get the idea 00:32:48 you should be able to shoot arrows into the abyss through malign gateways 00:32:52 <|amethyst> doy: how would facing work? comes out in the same direction? 00:32:58 malign gateways don't go to the abyss! 00:33:03 they go... somewhere else 00:33:03 tron minigame, basically 00:33:05 and sometimes it comes back and hits you if you're also in the abyss 00:33:06 |amethyst: no idea 00:33:08 haha 00:33:09 you controll the arrow path 00:33:09 amethyst: would have to be 00:33:16 but if you hit your own path...boom 00:33:20 maybe it's more like snake 00:33:25 don't cross the streams? 00:33:29 also 00:33:34 complicated when you have several passages up 00:33:57 this is something only I do probably (have 10 passages sitting on a floor) 00:34:11 <|amethyst> btw, there is still an annoying ray crash if you try to cast Dazzling Spray (probably glaciate too) at certain (x,y) coordinates 00:34:14 that *probably* should not be a thing, but I haven't used the spell 00:34:43 <|amethyst> I fixed some by making it round harder, but that introduced new coordinates where it has problems because now it rounds too much 00:35:08 <|amethyst> but the ray code only vaguely makes sense to me 00:35:21 <|amethyst> and I'm not prepared to analyse its numerics 00:36:27 need to call in dpeg 00:36:38 do we have any other mathematicians? 00:37:00 nrook I think probably has a major or a minor in it or something 00:37:08 -!- read has quit [Quit: brb] 00:37:09 but not like... graduate level 00:37:22 yeah I've browsed that code every now and again, and it's interesting but I've never groked too much of it, certainly not the numerics 00:37:44 Well have him send in his c.v. and we'll see if he'll be allowed to work on that bug 00:37:48 hahaha 00:37:51 will do 00:38:20 implementable: send devs to get math Ph.D.s 00:38:24 not in numerics 00:38:35 man, failed that implementable 00:38:38 <|amethyst> numerical analysis often falls under CS anyway 00:38:43 yea 00:38:51 i was forced to take one numerical analysis course 00:38:52 <|amethyst> but I barely passed that exam on the second attempt :P 00:38:59 it was pretty boring 00:39:02 something something quadrature 00:39:03 huh. check out what happens if you turn into a wisp as a felid 00:39:04 i hate numerics 00:39:05 <|amethyst> (did fine in the class, but the prelim kicked my ass) 00:39:18 cool stuff really, but studying that as one's focus..no thanks 00:40:56 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:41:42 This gives improper instructions on how to avoid penance 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8892 by EugeneJudo 00:42:04 heh 00:42:18 I appreciate that he caught webtiles chat in that 00:42:57 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:44:43 hey so 00:44:47 Hm. Wispform hits to "touch", "hit", or "engulf". If I were to put a description for it in the top-right, what would that be? (like "claws", "spores", etc) 00:45:00 each time I kill mara, my game crashes 00:45:00 !crashlog 00:45:01 8155. olXor, XL15 DDHe, T:31590 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/olXor/crash-olXor-20140820-070719.txt 00:45:09 !crashlog Shard1697 00:45:09 1. Shard1697, XL11 HOFi, T:12264 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Shard1697/crash-Shard1697-20140522-230804.txt 00:45:11 and then I go back to before i killed him 00:45:35 that is not the right crashlog 00:45:36 hm 00:45:40 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-248-g1308768 00:45:40 we have not been getting crashlogs lately 00:45:42 distressing 00:45:43 PleasingFungus: what does happen 00:45:50 <|amethyst> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Shard1697/crash-Shard1697-20140822-054309.txt 00:46:20 !blame Grunt 00:46:20 I pronounce Grunt... Guilty! 00:46:49 <|amethyst> hm 00:46:57 milestone generation 00:46:57 hm 00:46:57 %git :/otion 00:46:58 07Grunt02 {elliptic} * 0.15-b1-104-g1e21a7e: Track scroll/potion use in milestones/logfiles. 10(3 days ago, 2 files, 24+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e21a7e3867c 00:47:01 <|amethyst> that would imply you.max_level is >= 28 00:47:08 impressive 00:47:42 that's a high level 00:47:45 it is! 00:47:47 -!- coolbeans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:48:04 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 00:48:16 -!- Vizer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:35 scrolls_used = 139, potions_used = 0 00:48:57 oh, I see 00:49:01 it's crashing at the end of that loop 00:50:18 isn't max_level == 27 enough to crash? 00:50:30 <|amethyst> i < max_level 00:50:41 o i c 00:50:44 rubinko is getting the same crash 00:50:46 also level 27 00:51:00 still wary of forgetting 0-basing 00:51:02 <|amethyst> trying a build with optimisation 00:51:25 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:04 <|amethyst> oh wait 00:53:09 <|amethyst> it needs a dgl build I guess 00:54:34 late, but this is the message it gives me http://i.gyazo.com/a693e2c4c2d44d29d49f0e1ab342b332.png 00:55:34 <|amethyst> ah, yes 00:55:40 <|amethyst> you.max_level is 28 at that point 00:56:33 impressive 00:56:41 B) 00:58:30 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:59:08 <|amethyst> oh, it's intentional that you.max_level goes over 27 00:59:17 <|amethyst> that's used for felid lives and probably other things 00:59:46 <|amethyst> actually, maybe not other things 00:59:53 huh 01:00:38 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:19 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:02:00 how bad would it be if felids didn't lose the xl 01:02:13 so we could just assume that nonwizmode at an xl will never have been higher 01:02:54 i guess the obvious change is that you can't always get another extra life 01:03:02 which doesn't sound so bad! 01:03:24 seems bad that losing lives at earlier levels is better than losing them later (since later you can never get them back) 01:03:40 that's probably fixable without having the level loss, though 01:04:12 hm 01:04:42 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 01:04:47 looks like at one point you could get a new life not at a levelup boundary 01:05:11 anyway, we should probably try to fix this even with felids being as they are 01:05:18 since we should probably fix it sooner than later :) 01:05:31 <|amethyst> I think you currently can get new lives above XL 27 01:05:35 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:05:41 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05:51 yes 01:06:10 <|amethyst> (If I'm reading this correctly, that appears to be why max_level can go above 27, to track that) 01:06:35 <|amethyst> maybe I misunderstood "not at a levelup boundary" 01:06:58 i remember looking at the extra life and level loss code to try to figure out how to remove the latter once 01:06:59 once 01:07:10 wheals' proposal was to remove max_level going above 27 01:07:14 well, one of his proposals 01:07:17 anyway 01:07:49 no, my idea was to let us drop max_level entirely 01:08:04 since it would always be equal to xl 01:08:16 right 01:08:18 yes 01:08:26 sorry, I need to go to bed an hour ago 01:09:28 <|amethyst> okay, reproduced the crash locally 01:09:30 i guess for the loop just use min(you.max_level, ONE_OF_THE_#DEFINES_THAT_EQUALS_27) 01:10:32 <|amethyst> wheals: I don't think there is a constant or define currently for max xl 01:10:42 <|amethyst> wheals: there is one for max skill level but I don't want to conflate the two 01:10:42 scandalous 01:10:46 <|amethyst> so I will use 27 01:11:10 i think dungeon depth was one at a point too (rip) 01:11:11 could always make a new define 01:11:49 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:12:05 <|amethyst> MAX_BRANCH_DEPTH, MAX_SKILL_LEVEL, and MAX_MONS_HD 01:12:25 oh 01:12:26 <|amethyst> a new define would be good, but should be a separate commit 01:12:31 max mons hd? 01:12:35 <|amethyst> there are lots of things that would need to be changed 01:12:38 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9248 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), malmutate, fireball (3d43) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 01:12:38 %??orb of fire 01:12:46 30 > 27, I think 01:12:48 there goes my plan for making tomb 72 levels long 01:12:53 PleasingFungus: levelups 01:13:00 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it only matters for... what wheals saidf 01:13:03 <|amethyst> s/df/d/ 01:13:10 why is there even a max on that 01:13:12 !learn add 27 The highest HD a monster can get to through levelling up. 01:13:12 27[28/28]: The highest HD a monster can get to through levelling up. 01:13:15 what 01:13:18 !banish wheals 01:13:18 PleasingFungus miscasts Banishment. PleasingFungus is cast into the Abyss! 01:13:18 when did this happen 01:13:21 christ 01:13:22 -!- gigantic_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:13:24 not my day 01:13:34 wheals: I think I did it a month ago 01:13:37 hold on 01:13:43 !learn del 27[4 01:13:43 Deleted 27[4/28]: number of points in xomscumming's high score, divided by 1000000 01:13:53 no 01:14:32 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:14:34 other good options are [13, [15, [20 01:14:38 if you'd prefer to add that one back 01:14:45 !learn add 27[4] number of points in xomscumming's high score, divided by 1000000 01:14:45 (other good entries to remove) 01:14:45 27[4/28]: number of points in xomscumming's high score, divided by 1000000 01:14:50 wait hold on 01:14:54 ??27[22 01:14:54 27[22/28]: Sniper's base delay, in 0.15. 01:14:55 ??27[21 01:14:55 27[21/28]: Zot Defence begins generating strong bosses at power 27. 01:15:07 !learn del 27[25 01:15:07 Deleted 27[25/28]: The maximum number of aut you can be slowed by a torpor slug. (After killing it, or moving out of sight.) 01:15:13 since that is no longer the case! 01:15:18 thank god 01:15:21 rip 01:15:28 !learn swap 27[26] 27[27] 01:15:29 Swapped 27[26] with 27[27]. 01:15:33 ??27[27 01:15:33 27[27/27]: The number of entries in the 27 learndb section. 01:15:36 order is restored. 01:15:40 praise zin. 01:16:10 huh, didn't realize ice devils were supposed to be a tier above iron devils 01:16:19 !lg * recent killer="ice devil" 01:16:19 458. tabulaattori the Unseen (L11 SpAs), slain by an ice devil in IceCv (ice_cave_small_demon) on 2014-08-21 23:50:40, with 14391 points after 10476 turns and 0:21:54. 01:16:24 !lg * recent killer="iron devil" 01:16:24 120. Jigsaw the Chiller (L4 VpIE), slain by an iron devil (a +0 battleaxe) (summoned by miscasting Summon Ice Beast) on D:2 on 2014-08-20 21:59:02, with 81 points after 2387 turns and 0:11:45. 01:16:30 I guess ice caves are a thing 01:16:31 hm 01:16:51 apparently 1) japanese players made a server and I didn't know it and 2) they have some nice webtiles patches they haven't shared and 3) I'm so furious about 1 and 2 but none of my stuff has even killed some of the prominent japanese players!!! 01:16:55 orange demons and ice devils are out of place number-word wise 01:17:00 this is a terrible start to my day 01:17:25 what are the webtile patches? 01:17:27 look at their fancy webtiles 01:17:28 http://lazy-life.ddo.jp:8080/#lobby 01:17:35