00:00:00 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 00:01:08 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-b1-100-g7f93067 00:01:56 -!- eb_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:01:57 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:06:47 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:51 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.16-a0-238-g990132c (34) 00:10:44 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 00:10:49 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:25:21 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:25:33 -!- Wahaha_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:33:16 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:36:35 -!- mamgar_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:36 -!- dexap is now known as paxed 00:41:49 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:42:47 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 00:44:24 fedhas sprint could probably use a bit of design work 00:44:32 yes 00:47:17 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:48:10 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:34 -!- Wensley is now known as Guest58738 00:49:22 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50:56 huh, vampire bat form has a 1/8 chance of having SPWPN_VAMPIRISM 00:51:49 also, lichform is halves the player's body weight. a terrible weakness when fighting those force lance guys in Snake in lichform. 00:53:32 also, all of the sprints that auto-id items should probably block spawning of ?id the same way they do for ?tele 00:53:40 also, ?tele is blocked from spawning, but not /tele 00:53:54 yeah, iirc I got /tele in arenasprint when testing 00:54:08 it might be an explicit reward in the .des? I remember thinking it was very odd 00:54:49 don't see anything in the .des 00:54:54 aight 00:54:58 i found one in a shop on fedhas sprint 00:55:03 nice 00:55:07 did you buy it 00:55:20 no, because using it on fedhas sprint would basically just be suicide 00:55:22 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:55:31 also I think it might be prevented from working 01:00:13 -!- Meriados has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:05:38 man, that vampire bat vampirism thing is just so irrelevant 01:06:40 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140817030204]] 01:17:24 also, the "don't autopickup identified jewellery that you only need one of" thing doesn't work on sprints that auto-id 01:20:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:21:15 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21:15 -!- minmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43:53 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:52:17 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:00:52 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:01:27 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:05:14 -!- sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:07:06 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:46 -!- winsbury has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:08:33 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:52 -!- siepu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:18:14 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-b1-100-g7f93067 02:18:18 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:19:37 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:08 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:23:49 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:26:13 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.16-a0-238-g990132c (34) 02:28:24 -!- ruwin has quit [] 02:29:30 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:42 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 02:31:52 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:39:20 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:45:07 -!- mibe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:53:54 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:58:09 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:04:23 -!- Shard1697 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:05:01 -!- eb_ has quit [] 03:13:09 -!- Codrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 03:22:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:24:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:30:56 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:21 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:37:17 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:46:17 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:48:21 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:55 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:55 -!- Reverie has quit [Client Quit] 03:51:27 -!- Reverie has joined ##crawl-dev 04:02:38 -!- Kevi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:05:26 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:06:50 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:55 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:12:07 -!- markov_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:18:15 -!- sagaras has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:19:23 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:21 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:27:35 -!- mark_w has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:29 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:52 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:03:22 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04:14 -!- Shome has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]] 05:13:09 -!- Letchik1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:15:20 -!- Raycaster has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:50 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:47:58 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:53:45 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: ヒーロー見参！] 06:05:00 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:02 -!- Jeremiah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:11:39 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:20:05 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:20:23 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:21:36 -!- GeorgieFruit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:23:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:37:22 -!- siepu_ is now known as siepu 06:45:03 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:52:12 -!- giganticus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:53:21 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:08 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 07:03:22 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:03:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:07:44 -!- markgo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:53 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:12:39 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 07:15:17 -!- SirLaggard has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:16:37 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:21:22 -!- RodericNull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:24:35 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:28:10 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:30:43 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:31:33 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:41:48 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:31 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:45:02 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:35 <|amethyst> doy: the reason /tele is allowed but not ?tele is because you can zap monsters 07:46:51 <|amethyst> only the player is prohibited from teleporting 07:47:58 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:49:58 <|amethyst> doy: the jewellery ID autopickup thing is #5784 (that one is specifically about monsters identifying the item, but same idea). There is some code to fix that when Ash IDs the item (see #6310); maybe that could be extended to monster-ID and starts-as-IDed 08:01:03 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:03:48 -!- GeorgieFruit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:04:36 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:04:46 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:12:23 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:12:24 -!- Wahaha_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:21:27 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:10 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:23:53 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:27:09 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:28:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:14 -!- MarkW1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:08 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I agree that Dith banning electricity would be going too far, but I do think Dazzling Spray and Corona should have the same status 08:33:38 oh, dith doesn't ban corona already? 08:33:43 <|amethyst> dith does 08:33:45 <|amethyst> but not DS 08:33:52 ah, okay 08:34:00 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:35:03 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38:47 -!- Tenda has quit [Quit: Quit] 08:39:24 -!- Tenda has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:23 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:28 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:44:50 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:44:51 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:27 <|amethyst> hm 08:46:36 <|amethyst> could we rename all (most) our foo_type enums to foo_t? Or would that be a potential problem with our use of 'using namespace std;' 08:46:39 <|amethyst> ? 08:46:45 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:22 might be worth trying? 08:48:30 can't really think of anything that would conflict off the top of my head 08:49:13 heh 08:49:17 size_type 08:49:30 <|amethyst> my worry would be potential future conflicts 08:49:54 <|amethyst> that would wouldn't be changed, or would be monsize_t or something 08:50:20 alternately, we could stop doing "using namespace std" 08:50:25 <|amethyst> but, also, if someone feels strongly about keeping it _type 08:50:27 that would probably be a good change regardless 08:50:32 <|amethyst> doy: it was only recently that we started 08:50:35 oh really 08:50:39 why did we start 08:51:03 <|amethyst> hm 08:51:14 <|amethyst> no reasoning in the commit message (just technical details) 08:51:19 <|amethyst> %git 770bcbd 08:51:24 07galehar02 * 0.12-a0-208-g770bcbd: Use std namespace. 10(2 years ago, 394 files, 7870+ 8315-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=770bcbd1844b 08:51:39 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:51:50 yeah, i think we should really stop doing that 08:51:53 <|amethyst> but IIRC it was mostly about std:: all over the place being ugly (particularly when it forces line breaks) 08:52:06 yeah, but we can just do "using std::string; using std::vector" or whatever 08:52:13 and cover 99% of that 08:52:36 because yeah, just doing "using namespace std" does open us up to future conflicts in a lot of areas 08:52:55 it's really not a great idea for a large project 08:53:14 <|amethyst> I think the worst offenders could be fixed better in 0.16 with just 'auto' 08:53:21 yeah, that too 09:12:21 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:12:39 -!- mamgar_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17:12 -!- kober has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 24.7.0/20140723063708]] 09:18:34 Why are the options all commented out? 09:18:58 I'm trying to change viewport dimensions, and not having any luck 09:20:12 Is this option broken? :/ 09:21:55 Reverie: can you be more specific about what you're trying to do? 09:22:31 I'm trying to change view_max_width and view_max_height 09:23:14 It remains at 33x21 even when changed 09:23:31 Sorry if the solution is simple and I'm mising it 09:24:02 seems to work fine here for me 09:24:34 Hmmm 09:24:58 I'm playing online, over ssh 09:25:25 afaik that is only used for local tiles; set the size of your terminal window for ssh 09:25:31 or offline console 09:25:46 no, it's used for console too 09:26:03 I'll try changing local console 09:26:08 and see if it works there 09:26:19 -!- rophy has quit [Client Quit] 09:26:33 !rc reverie 09:26:34 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Reverie.rc 09:26:34 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:50 it doesn't seem to be changed there? 09:26:54 No it doesn't 09:27:01 &rc reverie 09:27:02 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/Reverie.rc 09:27:10 But I saved the file and it's consistent even when I open it again 09:27:38 It's good to know this is just me 09:27:41 ah, it is changed on 0.15 09:27:53 But I wonder why it isn't saving? :/ 09:27:58 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:28:19 Yes, I'm playing 0.15 09:28:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:28:34 Does that make a difference? Maybe I should have specified 09:28:35 well, do you have enough space in your console to show both a larger viewport and the message area? 09:28:55 I have plenty of space, yes 09:29:44 All I've altered were these two vars 09:30:54 Oh wait, there we go 09:31:12 Resetting my ssh connection worked 09:31:38 hm, did anyone ever fix the vine display bug? 09:32:09 vine display bug? 09:32:13 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:37 doy: http://lpix.org/1756138/20140726_163816.png 09:33:42 see the ? tile? 09:34:17 snaplasher vines can form 45 degree angles, which no other tentacle can 09:34:36 ah, a tiles thing 09:34:38 so the tentacle display logic doesn't support it 09:34:39 i wouldn't know then 09:34:40 (: 09:34:43 xD 09:35:04 snaplasher vine stalkers 09:35:16 i looked at it myself but said code is a horrible pile of spaghetti 09:36:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:26 doesn't that basically describe the entire tile related code from what i've been hearing 09:38:45 some parts of it are fine! 09:38:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:39 it's just that the whole thing is crippled by the fact that things can't define what they look like 09:39:51 |amethyst: I'd honestly rather unban corona in that case, then; the key conduct is "banning fire" 09:39:58 so we have to figure it out after the fact, using limited information about said things 09:40:13 and banning corona just puts us on the top of a long slippery slope, without any real mechanical benefit. 09:40:50 and sometimes this means bending over backwards to find out something that would have been immediately available earlier in the process 09:41:37 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:43:35 I suggest global variables 09:43:37 everywhere 09:43:40 -!- Guest58738 is now known as Wensley 09:44:36 Wensley: Done. 09:47:32 !send PleasingFungus ghosts 09:47:32 Sending ghosts to PleasingFungus. 09:48:34 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:49:33 aaaa 09:54:00 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:33 bbbb 10:00:06 See? 10:00:17 itym "see see see see" 10:00:28 No need to repeat yourself. 10:01:06 !send PleasingFungus php ghosts 10:01:06 Sending php ghosts to PleasingFungus. 10:01:33 dang 10:01:56 Two player ghosts and a ghost hound come into view. 10:04:10 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04:29 ontoclasm: I'll do the vine code if you then do the tiles 10:05:18 ...just don't get 10:05:19 !glasses 10:05:19 ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) 10:05:20 too tangled 10:05:21 with it 10:05:23 :) 10:06:08 booo 10:07:46 huh, there's a _add_tentacle_overlay call here in _tileidx_tentacle only for segments connecting N-SW, not for any others (_add_tentacle_overlay usually gets called from elsewhere) 10:08:01 probably a copy&paste remnant 10:08:23 I wonder if that's the reason for the bug where that specific direction shows up as a ? 10:09:03 -!- svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:09:14 huh, which bug is that? other than the one for vines which I am currently fixing 10:10:47 -!- netkitten has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:12:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: the ? are N-NW and the like, because that is only possible for snaplasher vines, since they have an anchor point adjacent to the first segment 10:13:46 <|amethyst> unless there's another bug about that 10:14:09 <|amethyst> s/because that/which/ 10:15:03 o 10:15:05 maybe 10:15:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:18:28 hmm... now I'm confused by the tentacle tiles code, too 10:20:24 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:21:34 oh great, there is a main_dir enum with NORTH, EAST, SOUTH and WEST, which are apparently taken to mean SW, NW, NE and SE here 10:21:35 edlothiol: You stare at the tentacles code. You are confused! 10:21:37 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:21:46 -!- M1zzu has quit [Client Quit] 10:21:53 because why not 10:21:59 and of course i'll make the tiles for it 10:22:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:23:52 hm, the display of altars when you use magic mapping is broken in console 10:24:30 they are on the map but they are the same colour as the background, at least for me 10:25:48 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:25:56 and this main_dir enum is only used for that... I don't get it 10:28:20 -!- devinity has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:29:09 ok, now I do get it 10:31:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31:23 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:36:13 <|amethyst> hm 10:36:35 <|amethyst> elliptic's thing sounds like something isn't going through element_colour 10:36:45 <|amethyst> err 10:36:57 <|amethyst> well, that DNGN_UNKNOWN_ALTAR is BLACK 10:37:11 <|amethyst> I guess element_colour wouldn't be right, because then it would flash every colour 10:37:27 <|amethyst> or whatever BLACK does 10:37:59 <|amethyst> hm, but the map colour is darkgrey 10:38:55 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39:16 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:12 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41:50 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44:35 |amethyst: the background colour isn't black? 10:44:40 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:44:40 I always get confused about this 10:46:40 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:08 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:47:40 or do you mean that the altar should be showing up as darkgrey? 10:49:38 well, changing the DNGN_UNKNOWN_ALTAR line in feature-data.h from BLACK to DARKGREY fixes it for me 10:49:59 -!- siepu has quit [Client Quit] 10:50:06 !bug 8883 10:50:07 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8883 10:50:43 -!- _aardvark has quit [Client Quit] 10:53:28 -!- Sharkman1231 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:53:55 %git 0df2da 10:53:58 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.16-a0-225-g0df2dad: Don't spam Ash-worshippers holding the Scythe of Curses (8883) 10(35 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0df2dade16a3 10:55:02 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:55:13 PleasingFungus, I saw your message earlier; I had tried to find the code which was calling curse_an_item and I couldn't get it to show up in grep. I had the code which looped through weapon properties and I had the curse_an_item, but not the middle point...so thanks 10:55:21 np 10:55:28 art-func.h is a silly file 10:55:37 The compliments are absorbed by Ashenzari! 10:55:54 unrand handling sure is better than it used to be though 10:56:20 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:58:59 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140817030204]] 10:59:10 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:59:26 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:02 -!- wheals has left ##crawl-dev 11:00:15 -!- wheals has quit [Client Quit] 11:00:50 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:01:57 that's interesting, apparently inscribin stuff with colours causes stackable items to not stack 11:02:00 *inscribing 11:04:00 oh never mind, that applies for all conflicting inscriptions 11:08:33 hm, does anyone understand why changing the non-map_colour colours for DNGN_UNKNOWN_ALTAR affects its colour on the map? 11:10:09 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.16-a0-239-gcc94a5d: Summoning icons 10(6 minutes ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc94a5d788c3 11:10:10 03ontoclasm02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15-b1-101-gd650685: Summoning icons (cherry picked from commit c8ec1b338f53094188987a4c6e3b6ab6d53674de) 10(6 minutes ago, 6 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d65068573e78 11:10:11 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:10:15 I guess it would help if I knew what seen_colour and seen_em_colour meant 11:11:27 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:30 whew 11:11:37 almost had a heart attack on those :C 11:12:12 !tell wheals help, I don't understand feature-data.h and DNGN_UNKNOWN_ALTAR seems to have the wrong colour 11:12:12 elliptic: OK, I'll let wheals know. 11:14:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:06 summon ice beast & summon shadow creatures are nice improvements 11:16:41 hm 11:16:47 yeah, shadow creatures was always sort of weird-looking 11:16:50 someone on crd wants the release delayed a week 11:16:54 I don't know who they are 11:17:11 they're a big fan of slashdot tv? 11:17:30 tbh, I didn't even know there was such a thing 11:17:53 I'm personally disinclined to delay the release unless this person is actively involved in dev 11:18:30 what is slashdot tv 11:18:49 * doy points at Keskitalo 11:19:29 ontoclasm: " Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. " 11:19:42 * Grunt points at doy. 11:19:43 ok 11:19:45 (I'm pretty sure those two sentences are mutually exclusive, though????) 11:19:50 (v confusing) 11:19:52 * Grunt excludes PleasingFungus!!! 11:19:54 rude 11:20:00 * Grunt ignores PleasingFungus. 11:20:24 ##crawl-dev annotation: exclusion: PleasingFungus, PleasingFungus 11:20:24 well i mean slashdot was like, tech news on the internet back when "on the internet" was a thing you would say about stuff 11:20:48 anyway, no offense to Keskitalo, but I am not sure that his being out of office on the release week is a strong reason for delay 11:20:58 PleasingFungus: no, the out of office for a week guy is Napkin 11:21:01 oh 11:21:09 why are you pointing at other people!!! 11:21:15 * Grunt points at PleasingFungus. 11:21:20 * PleasingFungus explodes! 11:21:21 PleasingFungus: Keskitalo is the OP in that thread 11:21:27 there are two different people 11:21:46 ...clearly there's a secret identity involved!! 11:21:50 in my email, I show up as OP - but yes, I see what you mean 11:22:03 (eino was replying to the email I wrote a month ago) 11:22:13 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:admin:devteam for reference d: 11:22:33 (kinda wish I'd thought to send a crd mail when we decided on the release date, a week ago!) 11:22:47 todo: work more on using crd properly :) 11:22:55 yeah, not ideal to have napkin ooo on release week 11:23:22 He would probably also appreciate not being pinged repeatedly, even if it is important :) 11:23:32 I was going to * it but then I didn't 11:23:36 ops 11:23:38 *oops 11:23:42 ??oops 11:23:43 pleasingfungus[1/9]: oops 11:24:11 on the other hand, I'd really prefer not to delay - it's been quite a long feature freeze as it is 11:24:29 (and also I'll end up missing half the tournament if we delay) 11:24:41 get pw up and running 11:24:42 problem solved 11:24:44 <3 11:24:46 ? 11:24:52 pw? 11:24:52 qw, xw, gw, 11:24:53 pw 11:25:20 (i.e. write a Crawl bot to play the tournament for you <_<) 11:25:35 (rip the joke) 11:26:23 yeah rip 11:29:56 anyway I'm not sure I have enough information to make a decision re release date (the criticality of the presence of the ***n*p*k*n*** 11:30:00 ) 11:30:10 but probably a decision should be made soon! 11:31:29 "Nap kin" will suffice 11:31:30 :) 11:31:39 whatever, g********t 11:31:47 you're not my real dad!!! 11:31:53 P*******F***** 11:31:59 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32:10 rude!!! 11:42:05 is it intentional you can completely avoid shambling mangrove roots by flying above water? 11:42:15 (or swimming) 11:42:45 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:42:55 afaik you cannot 11:42:57 oh 11:43:00 do you mean deep water 11:43:04 yes 11:43:12 as long as you stay in/above deep water you are immune to roots 11:43:19 well, they shouldn't be able to drown you 11:43:24 I'm not saying they should 11:44:12 but since swamp is full of deep water it just seems counterintuitive to have such a simple solution 11:45:57 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:46:52 well, the primary effect of mangrove roots is restricting your movement 11:47:04 so the solution to avoid that is... to restrict your own movement to deep water? 11:49:45 *shrug* 11:50:31 ~ 11:52:01 instead of restricting your movement they instead have a good chance of making you waste a turn or two on recasting flight 11:52:18 which is more turns than you'd waste just by standing still while rooted 11:53:03 about release delay, Nap kin not being around certainly isn't great (at the very least it means no CDO at start of tourney unless he has time to get 0.15 branch up before he is gone, I don't know whether there are things with putting release builds on CDO that require him too) 11:54:03 I don't have any real feeling about it other than that 11:54:40 ontoclasm: the code is done, it just needs 8 new tiles ;) 11:54:56 btw, cln and ckr also don't have 0.15 branch up yet 11:55:20 edlothiol: awesome! thanks so much 11:55:22 cln? 11:55:26 i'll make them when i get back home tonight 11:55:27 so someone should get in touch with their admins when possible 11:55:50 (if we haven't yet) 11:55:57 03edlothiol02 07* 0.16-a0-240-g1a93eac: Implement snaplasher vine tiles at acute angles (#8666). 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 157+ 151-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a93eacad09a 11:56:45 0.15 seems to be present on webtiles 11:57:52 hm 11:58:11 !lg t s=src 11:58:12 No games for t. 11:58:16 !lg * t s=src 11:58:18 62592 games for * (t): 20974x cszo, 20322x cao, 7438x clan, 6982x ckr, 4428x cbro, 2448x cdo 11:59:22 yeah, I'd be more concerned about the release builds issues 11:59:34 hypothetical issues 12:00:23 PleasingFungus: hm? 12:01:33 responding to elliptic's comments about the consequences of a sans-NPKN tournament 12:02:54 not having cdo available at the start doesn't seem like a big deal, given only 4% of games last tournament were on it (don't recall how to query for count of distinct player names) 12:02:57 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 34.0a1/20140808030201]] 12:03:31 !lg t tiles 12:03:32 No games for t (tiles). 12:03:38 !lg * t tiles 12:03:39 lel 12:03:39 48310. pocky the Skirmisher (L1 DsAK of Lugonu), slain by a harpy zombie on Abyss:1 on 2014-04-27 19:59:42, with 0 points after 61 turns and 0:00:58. 12:04:31 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-b1-101-gd650685 12:06:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:08:05 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:02 -!- ilyak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:13:34 !lg * t s=src x=cdist(name) 12:13:35 62592 games for * (t): 20974x cszo [718], 20322x cao [1122], 7438x clan [281], 6982x ckr [213], 4428x cbro [170], 2448x cdo [135] 12:19:31 yeah, I guess CLN has 0.15 but sequell just doesn't know about those games 12:20:12 ckr too 12:20:22 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-240-g1a93eac (34) 12:29:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:58 -!- kroki has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:36:37 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:38:23 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:43:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:48 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 12:47:09 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-241-g14faa8f: Make travel choose a path avoiding temporary obstacles if possible. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=14faa8f4edc2 12:47:10 03elliptic02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15-b1-102-g52a9edc: Make travel choose a path avoiding temporary obstacles if possible. 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52a9edc6fdde 12:52:07 -!- metaentity has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:52 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:22 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:10 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:00:56 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:46 -!- Philonous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:01:57 -!- hauzer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:03:58 <|amethyst> elliptic: oh, I did just think of one thing: dest == coord_def() can be written dest.orgin() 13:04:03 <|amethyst> elliptic: err, origin 13:04:36 <|amethyst> (also available as dest.zero()) 13:07:31 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-b1-102-g52a9edc 13:14:17 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:15:34 -!- partial has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:16:10 oh, right 13:16:16 I guess that would be a bit better 13:18:53 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-242-g2d9bdbc: Fix mapped altars being invisible in console. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d9bdbc1e401 13:18:53 03elliptic02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15-b1-103-g8fdc957: Fix mapped altars being invisible in console. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fdc9576b248 13:18:55 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:55 don't want to sound like a jerk, but if the crawl-dev community liked the contribution of the stepdown-logarithm idea, could I just be mentioned in the "thanks" document 13:19:15 the what idea 13:19:27 %git :/ogarit 13:19:29 07Grunt02 * 0.13-a0-1640-g75ee6c3: Make melee combat more exciting!!!! 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 2 files, 18+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=75ee6c34c151 13:19:46 %git :/stepdown 13:19:56 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-2334-ge048ef1: Remove stuff 10(3 weeks ago, 180 files, 880+ 789-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e048ef1f5268 13:19:56 !tell wheals okay, hopefully 2d9bdbc fixed it the correct way 13:19:56 elliptic: OK, I'll let wheals know. 13:19:56 %git :/tepdown 13:19:57 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-2334-ge048ef1: Remove stuff 10(3 weeks ago, 180 files, 880+ 789-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e048ef1f5268 13:20:08 how informative 13:20:11 the idea of using a logarithmic function instead of the goold old stepdown function. elliptic was the guy I talked to that time. 13:20:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:21:14 metaentity: sure, how would you like to appear in CREDITS.txt? 13:21:33 as my real name, Lorenzo Lami 13:23:19 Thank you elliptic :) 13:25:42 -!- Letchik1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:26:52 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:29:14 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-243-g0e7ede4: Use coord_def::origin() (|amethyst). 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e7ede40a369 13:29:14 03elliptic02 07* 0.16-a0-244-g724f6ad: Add metaentity to credits. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=724f6adeeaa5 13:29:20 MarvinParanoidAndroid eh 13:30:54 * metaentity is smiling 13:31:22 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:42 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:49 -!- Xoai has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:01 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:38:55 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:40:57 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:11 ontoclasm, bloax: http://imgur.com/l3UmPZf 13:49:46 some kind of shatter-ish-thing? 13:49:47 i like how i got the cracks to look in the upper-left corner but i'm not sure how i want to deal with the yellow earthmagic effect 13:49:55 shatter, yeah 13:50:08 that's a very gritty kind of sprite 13:50:13 more gritty than most 13:51:05 is that supposed to be animated or something 13:51:31 no, that's several drafts 13:51:42 #4 looks best 13:51:45 o 13:51:53 I thought it was supposed to be animated 13:52:00 hence part of my confusion 13:52:26 4 is probably the best of the options, yes 13:52:51 i think that the cracks look best in the upper left one if we can add a proper "explosion" beneath it 13:52:58 that breaks the tile borders and all, of course 13:53:20 i'm fielding it to you other pixel people 13:54:08 As a master pixelcraftsman, I will have this done in no time. see also my other brilliant accomplishments, like the original greatsling tile 13:55:23 it looked like it would be painful to wield 13:55:23 hence the higher skill requirements! 13:55:29 It All Fits Together 13:55:31 (unlike this poor egg) 13:58:11 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04:20 -!- Insomniak has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:51 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 14:06:57 Grunt: mind providing me with links to the new banner images and the scroll/potion count patch again? 14:07:21 elliptic: sure, just a second 14:07:48 rt of my confusion 14:07:50 er 14:07:54 http://sprunge.us/GeXd 14:07:56 patch 14:07:56 and 14:08:15 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5494313/banner_footer1.png 14:08:19 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5494313/banner_qazlal1.png 14:08:23 (and 2 and 3 for the latter) 14:08:41 thanks! 14:09:00 hmmm 14:09:21 i just shot a bolt of fire at a cyclops that was standing behind a giant spore 14:09:38 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:09:39 the spore exploded when the bolt hit it, and the explosion hit the cyclops, who then became confused 14:09:52 the bolt of fire then hit the confused cyclops, and i got put under penance by tso 14:10:08 good 14:11:01 not sure whether the code cost is worth trying to fix that 14:11:01 yeah 14:11:49 it's certainly very much an edge case, but we do try to warn people for a lot of other edge cases if an action they are about to take can cause penance 14:12:16 your actions against the cyclops may have appeared righteous, but there was sin in your heart 14:14:05 -!- Danei has quit [Read error: Network is unreachable] 14:14:43 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:16:51 .gmap 14:16:57 38. Category the Severer (L21 MuWn of Okawaru), thrown by an octopode crusher on Depths:3 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2014-08-21 10:04:31, with 351219 points after 85085 turns and 3:27:00. 14:17:07 died on water palace *and* thrown by an op c 14:17:11 niiice 14:17:14 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 14:17:15 gammacombo! 14:17:20 Do I get a bonus for that? 14:17:25 .gmap -tv 14:17:31 38. Category, XL21 MuWn, T:85085 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 14:18:24 dang, muwn 14:18:36 how on earth do you get that far with a muwn 14:18:38 playing like that 14:19:00 .gmap -log 14:19:06 38. Category, XL21 MuWn, T:85085: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Category/morgue-Category-20140821-100431.txt 14:19:06 I wander about that 14:19:07 maybe he didn't play like that before splatting 14:20:00 ... 14:20:07 The octopode crusher looks frightened! The spriggan rider looks frightened! 14:20:09 The octopode crusher throws you! 14:20:24 and 14:20:25 an octopode crusher (fleeing) 14:20:37 guess monsters can use abilities when they're fleeing? 14:20:48 ?? scroll of fear[$ 14:20:48 scroll of fear[5/5]: "The boulder beetle curls into a ball and rolls away!" 14:20:50 ?? scroll of fear[4 14:20:50 scroll of fear[4/5]: You assume a fearsome visage. The orc looks frightened! The orc wizard looks frightened! The orc wizard zaps a wand. The bolt of lightning hits you! Ouch! That really hurt! You die... 14:20:58 (yes) 14:21:12 yeah, dragons turn around to breathe fire at you when fleeing all the time (back when they actually fleed, that is) 14:21:12 you'd think monsters would at least break constrict 14:21:16 they're not supposed to but iirc it's handled case-by-case 14:21:24 (monsters aren't supposed to use abilities while fleeing) 14:21:31 I *think* dragons no longer breathe fire/etc while fleeing 14:21:41 well if we made them break constrict, that would solve this particular case 14:21:47 ya 14:22:28 -!- HoneyLocust has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:33 ??0.15 14:28:33 I don't have a page labeled 0.15 in my learndb. 14:28:38 rip 14:28:47 DED 14:28:48 rip 14:28:48 rip 14:29:09 dang rip 14:31:13 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: lol videogames] 14:37:55 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:38:59 -!- SomeStupidGuy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:02 %git bb5a145c8ed 14:39:02 07ChrisOelmueller02 {Grunt} * 0.14-a0-2575-gbb5a145: Change speeds of several speed 9/11 enemies. 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 13+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb5a145c8ed7 14:39:08 Grunt: "gimmick crab", eh? 14:39:12 was that your wording or chris's? 14:39:36 It was Chris's. 14:39:47 oh, that's apoc. crab? 14:39:51 Yes. 14:39:59 I still need to remember to dig up his MR patches 14:40:05 they were probably good ideas 14:40:12 were/are 14:41:08 9/11 enemies, never forget 14:41:12 ya 14:41:20 also, agh, hoist by my own petard; I couldn't find my fire crab commit because I never mentioned "fire crab" in the commit description 14:41:27 %git 9a70e733 14:41:27 Could not find commit 9a70e733 (git returned 128) 14:41:37 uh 14:41:39 %git 073eae 14:41:41 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1536-g073eae0: Make the rarest lair monster somewhat less rare 10(10 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=073eae0ed26f 14:41:47 gasp 14:41:50 !blame PleasingFungus 14:41:50 I pronounce PleasingFungus... Guilty! 14:42:05 dang 14:42:46 !tell reaverb Look at what he did in a commit message now: %git 073eae. You were so right about him 14:42:46 gammafunk: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 14:43:04 -!- mopl has quit [Client Quit] 14:43:51 by "now", do you mean "two and a half months ago" 14:45:00 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:49:04 -!- pi___ has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:52:40 <|amethyst> �tell reaverb so bad it warped the very fabric of time itself! 14:56:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:14 o.O 15:04:37 autoexplore just went into a loop on me 15:04:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:06:06 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8376576/z.cs.gz from 0.16-a0-238-g990132c 15:08:23 tl;dr: I hit o after defeating a monster, it moved to the square the monster was on and showed me what was on it. and then kept showing me what was on it until I hit a key to stop autoexplore 15:11:03 !tell elliptic out of curiosity, was the bug with all mapping or just &{? 15:11:03 wheals: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 15:12:46 -!- metaentity has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:13:50 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:13:51 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 15:14:04 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:14:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:15:06 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:16:44 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:41 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:24 time warps around |amethyst! 15:21:23 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 15:23:02 is there any reason you should want/be allowed to sticky flame yourself 15:23:32 because I did that by accident and I was wondering 15:23:59 it should prompt you 15:25:00 <|amethyst> eb_mobile: maybe you don't have corona, are invisible, don't have see invis, and want to increase your to-hit? 15:26:17 wheals: with magic mapping, not &{ 15:26:18 elliptic: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 15:26:26 in general, crawl doesn't outright prevent you from injuring yourself, other than instadeaths 15:26:31