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ZZZzzz…] 00:26:51 !tell wheals https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8849 that code wasn't unused at all!!!!! 00:26:51 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let wheals know. 00:27:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-101-g22dfc29: Remove an unreachable bloc 10(56 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=22dfc296c44e 00:27:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-102-gc20932b: Don't check for Sublimation in butchering prompts 10(51 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c20932bd5d50 00:27:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-103-g85ed4e7: Don't give --more-- prompts for trying to eat (8849) 10(33 minutes ago, 2 files, 23+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=85ed4e7cdc43 00:27:43 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-104-g2f21567: Clarify spectral weapon description (GeorgieFruit, read) 10(21 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f215674b71f 00:27:43 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13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f43fceeb75d 00:28:25 that was an incorrect use of "bloc" :( 00:31:57 oh 00:32:12 !source transform.cc:809 00:32:12 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/transform.cc;hb=HEAD#l809 00:32:19 this is unreachable 00:40:52 -!- JoshTriplett has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:41:29 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.16-a0-105-gc952f4c 00:42:58 hm. considering removing the "0" mp cost indicator for abilities which don't cost mp 00:42:58 in offline tiles 00:43:01 since it's ugly & distracting 00:45:30 -!- sleepkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:45:34 ref: http://i.imgur.com/Kki4iUB.png , http://i.imgur.com/4enh9DS.png 00:46:01 probably a Good Idea 00:46:11 what is definitely a Bad Idea is me messing around with vampires 00:46:16 rip 00:46:22 (because they are a convoluted mess) 00:46:37 ha ha ha oh boy 00:46:40 are they ever 00:47:29 why sure 00:47:37 their attack code is scattered 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be special cased to handle lava orcs) 04:50:10 2) it wasn't good enough to make 1) okay 04:50:18 this is the same reason djinn was removed btw 04:50:43 i see 04:50:53 but why devs are removing so much content? 04:51:05 lava orcs were never in a stable build 04:51:12 keep that in mind :p 04:52:06 because having more content isn't the same thing as having a better game 04:52:20 well, people like variety 04:53:10 I'll say it the way crate said it once 04:53:15 imagine there are a million monsters in crawl 04:53:17 LO was HO with the most annoying single mechanic I've ever seen in crawl 04:53:22 to be able to reliably win crawl, you have to be able to learn what a million monsters do 04:53:43 obviously a million monsters is too many to have, right? 04:54:13 but theres no drawback in race variety 04:54:31 yes there is 04:54:38 imagine there are a million races 04:54:42 which one do you want to play? 04:54:47 how are you going to learn how fun a million races are? 04:55:00 you are exagerating 04:55:04 crawl has plenty of race variety 04:55:15 and VS and Fo are quite different from any other race 04:55:22 and they're recent additions 04:55:39 until removed 04:55:51 they're not getting removed lol 04:56:05 like I said, LO has never ever been in a stable version 04:56:18 probably next on the chopping block is felid or one of halfling/kobold 04:56:32 stuff in trunk is experimental until it makes it into the next stable version 04:57:49 which is highly likely for VS/Fo since they're already in .15 and trunk is .16! 05:03:31 These vampires are shaping up to be interesting. 05:03:59 they start off in famine and low stats 05:04:10 and then after the early game they slowly climb the satiation levels 05:04:10 mmm 05:05:11 -!- Ystah_ has left ##crawl-dev 05:08:16 -!- Ystahdroid has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08:47 -!- Ystahdroid has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:29 -!- eki has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:11:14 -!- Kramin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:12:16 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:13:01 when do they permahaste 05:14:02 when they're in batform :^) 05:16:09 -!- Ystahdroid has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:26 -!- Ystahdroid has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:43 -!- causative has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:22:23 they should merge elves 05:22:41 and rename deep dwarves just dwarves 05:23:16 if kobold and halfling get merged i say removed halfling because kobolds have a greater presence in the game 05:23:46 remove* 05:23:59 https://www.copy.com/s/Ppbkd0vZHasFQlVh/wipyres.7z if you're interested in whatever the hell i'm cooking up 05:24:05 just pretend you can't eat corpses 05:24:56 i made some shit for this game and then lost it because i had to replace my computer and didn't have backup for that os 05:25:17 also i tend to play exclusively online so thanks but i can't really test it 05:25:24 i'll try that tomorrow Bloaxzorro, ty 05:25:36 it is extremely rough at the moment 05:25:36 i should remake the stuff i lost 05:25:53 i haven't even finalized the amount of nutrition you gain on biting things 05:26:25 tolly: I also play exclusively online, but things like this you kind of have to test offline. 05:26:46 i understand that :V 05:27:17 if you wanna get curious then here's a funny line 05:27:23 case SP_VAMPIRE: s = 5; i = 14; d = 5; break; // 24 minimum, 54 maximum 05:38:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38:54 -!- stickyfingers__ has quit [Client Quit] 05:42:51 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:01 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:30 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:45:18 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:49:22 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:50:05 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:57:30 xom discoooooo 05:57:36 that's a cool vault 05:57:46 i wonder how much code fuckery that took 05:59:23 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04:11 -!- Arkaniad 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pathfind to (40,43) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 09:20:25 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:26:11 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:30:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:11 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:35:39 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:40:03 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 09:57:09 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:15 -!- stanzill has quit [Changing host] 10:05:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:06 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:35 <|amethyst> !tell reaverb with ca238f5 "mundane dagger" now occasionally gives me a runed dagger with no plusses and no curse 10:06:36 |amethyst: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 10:08:00 <|amethyst> !tell reaverb dagger ego:flaming mundane (which is incoherent, I know) always gives a runed/glowing weapon (but no ego as expected) 10:08:00 |amethyst: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 10:12:08 <|amethyst> !tell Pleasingfungus 85ed4e7 means pressing e as a vampire with no corpse around gives no message at all 10:12:08 |amethyst: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 10:12:23 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:18:19 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:19:08 heh vampires 10:19:32 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:52 I'm not really discussing this here because even if I really like where this is heading there's no way in hell it'll ever get in. 10:21:50 <|amethyst> SamB: since I have an older version of bison right now (still 2.5), could you rebuild the pregenerated yacc/lex stuff in both trunk and stable? 10:22:08 <|amethyst> SamB: it won't build right now because of references to removed headers 10:22:21 <|amethyst> SamB: I mean, Crawl won't build using the pregenerated stuff 10:26:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:26:45 <|amethyst> SamB: actually, I guess I could install newer bison myself; ignore that :) 10:31:15 hehe 10:31:35 <|amethyst> hm, 3.0 seems to change some things 10:31:37 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:31:55 <|amethyst> I note it's using size_t (yy_size_t) in several places where it was using int 10:32:06 <|amethyst> I guess this means we can parse >2GB files now? :) 10:32:11 you've reminded me that I found an __attribute__ we should use on boring stuff like our array template accessors 10:32:30 |amethyst: um, okay, that sounds ... useful ... 10:33:16 -!- sleepkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33:17 I doubt Emacs can even open such files on typical 32-bit systems 10:33:43 nevermind how much of a crawl it would run at if it *could* somehow get enough contiguous memory 10:34:17 (no pun intended; frankly it does not seem at all funny as a pun) 10:38:18 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-107-ga701d29: Regenerate prebuilt yaccage. 10(6 minutes ago, 3 files, 788+ 990-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a701d29d88ca 10:38:18 03|amethyst02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15-b1-54-gaa90217: Regenerate prebuilt yaccage. 10(81 seconds ago, 3 files, 788+ 990-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa90217090ce 10:41:07 <|amethyst> SamB: what attribute? 10:41:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:53 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:44:33 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:45:16 -!- stanzill is now known as stanzwecha 10:47:40 -!- lrvs has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:50:14 -!- raskol has quit [Changing host] 10:50:51 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:52:50 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:58:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:58:59 |amethyst: yacc attack! 11:00:58 <|amethyst> Yaccety Sax 11:11:33 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:12:28 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:18 |amethyst: sorry, needed to shower before I forgot :-) 11:13:53 imho don't forget to shower 11:14:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.16-a0-108-g717e049: Re-add a vampire message (|amethyst) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=717e049fe177 11:14:07 03PleasingFungus02 07[stone_soup-0.15] * 0.15-b1-55-g17c0860: Re-add a vampire message (|amethyst) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17c0860dff9f 11:14:08 -!- warrigal2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:15:14 -!- Suzera has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:15:42 vampires are tricky. 11:15:52 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 11:16:00 |amethyst: artificial 11:16:44 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 11:17:06 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:17:31 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:17:56 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:18:16 <|amethyst> you can still set a breakpoint on an artifical function, right? 11:18:21 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:18:46 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:18:56 well, assuming that DWARF[2+] is one of those where it's marked as artificial, I think so 11:19:12 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:19:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:19:34 why, do you intend to set lots of breakpoints on operator[] of one of our array templates? 11:19:36 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:19:48 <|amethyst> well, probably not 11:19:57 <|amethyst> I might want to call one of those from the debugger though 11:20:01 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:20:10 yeah 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stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:33:32 is it intentional monsters can summon through walls? 11:33:42 oh never mind it's a grate 11:33:43 derp 11:33:50 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:34:12 sounds like you did not have 11:34:14 !glasses 11:34:14 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 11:34:15 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:34:16 grate expectations 11:34:41 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:35:06 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:35:30 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:35:56 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:36:20 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:36:45 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:37:10 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:37:35 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:38:01 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:38:25 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:38:50 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:39:15 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:39:28 Possessing both the slow metabolism + regeneration mutations 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8861 by Osgoodbad 11:39:40 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:40:05 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:40:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:31 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:40:56 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:41:20 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:41:45 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:42:10 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:42:35 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:43:00 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:43:23 -!- pikaro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:43:25 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:43:37 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: gareppa] 11:43:50 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:44:15 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:44:40 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Excess Flood] 11:51:59 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:08 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:10 !messages 11:52:10 (1/3) rockygargoyle said (15h 2m 41s ago): okay, it's just that i found a branch to it, and it seems really "old" 11:52:11 !messages 11:52:11 (1/2) |amethyst said (1h 45m 35s ago): with ca238f5 "mundane dagger" now occasionally gives me a runed dagger with no plusses and no curse 11:52:18 !messages 11:52:19 (1/1) |amethyst said (1h 44m 18s ago): dagger ego:flaming mundane (which is incoherent, I know) always gives a runed/glowing weapon (but no ego as expected) 11:52:39 |amethyst: Sorry about me messing that up, I think I know what the problem is and how to fix it. 11:52:46 -!- AGinsberg has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 11:52:59 Although I'm not sure how to generated an item with vault notation in Wiz-mode, which I need to check the fix... 11:53:08 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:53:46 % 11:53:49 well, &% 11:53:55 PleasingFungus: Thank you. :D 11:57:02 <|amethyst> reaverb: to clarify, because I left off a comma: dagger ego:flaming mundane in 0.14 gives a dagger with no ego and no plusses 11:59:48 |amethyst: Hmm, I also have a build for just before that commit which produces the same result. 12:00:18 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:05 <|amethyst> yeah 12:01:23 |amethyst: Yes, I have a fix for mundane items being marked glowing, now I just want to review that entrie commit in case I made any other mistakes. 12:01:31 <|amethyst> I did notice I sometimes get cursed items from mundane now, and don't think I did in 0.14 12:01:40 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 12:01:42 <|amethyst> but "now" includes before the most recent commit 12:02:42 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:25 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-b1-55-g17c0860 12:07:38 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:09:14 -!- puissantveil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:09:44 -!- mamgar_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:11:15 Ok, fix pushed 12:11:53 -!- Blakmane has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:15:04 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-109-gf028980: Fix mundane items sometimes being runed/glowing (|amethyst) 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f02898046a5a 12:15:04 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-110-ge8ded92: Clarify some code (dungeon.cc) 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e8ded9265a16 12:15:26 -!- Dungeon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:16:07 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 12:16:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.16-a0-108-g717e049 (34) 12:24:33 -!- stickyfingers_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:29:09 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:30:35 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:57 -!- Ystah_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:31:07 -!- Ystah has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31:36 <|amethyst> reaverb: I wonder if this fixes #8782 12:32:08 !bug 8782 12:32:08 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8782 12:32:16 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:32:36 <|amethyst> reaverb: I haven't been able to reproduce it at will, but I have seen it in games 12:32:43 minmay says that one is an old bug 12:32:50 <|amethyst> oh 12:32:52 I spent a while trying to hunt it down a month or two ago 12:32:55 <|amethyst> this one was -3 so I guess not 12:33:00 it seems to be specifically slings 12:33:02 bizarrely 12:33:23 or at least, that's how it was reported - I've never been able to reproduce it 12:40:08 -!- reaverb has left ##crawl-dev 12:40:22 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:46:36 huh 12:46:40 lichformed players don't leave ghosts 12:46:52 Wow. 12:47:24 necromutation_unreasons 12:48:23 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:31 is_undead is such a bad implementation 12:50:08 its been like that for ages 12:50:19 and afaik intentional. i've brought it up a few times 12:50:23 but i think its dumb 12:50:29 imo mummies, ghouls, etc should leave ghosts too 12:50:39 who the hell cares. they become even undead-er when they die 12:50:43 undeaderest 12:51:15 it'd be a mummy nerf 12:51:33 when on a early-game losing streak, you'd end up running into your own mummy ghosts 12:52:45 <|amethyst> instead make it so that TSO worshippers don't leave ghosts 12:52:52 hm. should potions be displayed as useless for characters in lichform? 12:53:16 its always been silly how food and potions become marked as useless 12:53:30 <|amethyst> %bug 2416 12:53:31 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2416 12:54:00 hm 12:54:02 ok 12:54:03 it's just because the game goes, "oh, you're in lichform, that's totally the same as being a real undead creature" 12:54:08 <|amethyst> maybe best would be to have two tags 12:54:09 well, I'm fixing that right now 12:54:12 the lichform thing 12:54:17 <|amethyst> useless and temp_useless 12:54:18 I'm just trying to figure out what the right behavior is 12:54:22 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:54:27 |amethyst: useless(bool temp) 12:54:28 <|amethyst> so that you can still colour them grey if temporarily useless 12:54:37 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I know, I mean in the item tags 12:54:42 idk about tags 12:54:43 hm 12:55:01 right now berserk is marked useless for hungry vampires 12:55:15 which seems like an important thing to warn players about, since vampires are confusing 12:55:28 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: right, so I think they *should* be grey 12:55:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: however, d, shouldn't drop them 12:56:27 ah 12:56:33 I've never used the 'drop useless items' key 12:56:34 hmm i think that vampire thing is because it used to take you to starving as soon as you used berserk 12:56:42 <|amethyst> (and autopickup should pick them up) 12:56:50 evilmike: isn't it because hungry vampires can't berserk 12:56:52 so "berserk" would really be "make me slow" 12:56:53 or do other things that require blood 12:56:59 i think they used to be able to 12:57:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:57:37 oh, is_useless_item already takes a temp param 12:57:59 so it's just about respecting & displaying that 12:58:12 -!- Ystah has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:00:49 -!- fufumann has quit [Quit: und weg...] 13:01:09 <|amethyst> oh, hm 13:01:15 <|amethyst> item_prefix also takes a temp param 13:01:57 hm 13:01:59 SPELL_HASTE_PLANTS 13:02:01 <|amethyst> I kind of think it would be better to always apply both sets of prefixes, but distinguish them 13:02:12 is SPELL_HASTE_PLANTS actually used for anything? 13:02:41 <|amethyst> %git b750380 13:02:41 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-2581-gb750380: Nerf spriggan druids a little 10(6 months ago, 2 files, 9+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b750380a6ace 13:02:45 <|amethyst> not since that 13:02:48 rip 13:03:02 <|amethyst> "I have left the code for Haste Plants at the moment, even though it is unused. There might well be some other situation it could fit." 13:03:45 <|amethyst> oh, it uses monster_iterator 13:04:14 <|amethyst> was going to theorize about friendly spriggans and treeformed players 13:04:28 <|amethyst> but also, treeformed players don't get plant holiness?? 13:04:49 -!- Sombrero_Mott has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04:55 <|amethyst> I guess plant holiness implies several resists we might not want 13:05:20 -!- Sombrero_Mott has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:34 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:53 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:17:06 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 13:20:39 give vinestalkers plant holiness 13:21:17 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:18 :) 13:21:42 Thanks for the smiley, I had difficutly telling if you were being saracastic or not. 13:21:58 (That was brought up and reject, in the tavern thread IIRC) 13:32:35 -!- Mandragora has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:35:00 ...should lichform prevent the player from memorizing spells? 13:35:04 that sounds astonishingly dumb. 13:35:23 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:36:16 is that really a thing 13:37:57 -!- Miauw has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38:20 Liches have poor memory. 13:38:38 *Liches cannot commit short term memory to long term memory. 13:38:39 if thats a thing, i certainly never noticed it before 13:38:40 it prevents the player from memorizing e.g. sublimation, I think 13:38:42 or it's supposed to 13:38:54 mprf(MSGCH_PROMPT, "You cannot currently memorise any of the available spells because you are in %s form. uppercase_first(transform_name()).c_str()); 13:39:05 is that checking for lichform specifically, or just undead-ness? 13:39:19 case SPELL_INTOXICATE: case SPELL_REGENERATION: // Only prohibited for liches and mummies. 13:39:30 dumb!!! 13:39:33 there's code to pass along the information that a spell is forbidden due to your form (which means lichform) 13:40:00 you're not even a real lich, you're just in a temporary transformation 13:40:10 _You cannot currently memorise or cast this spell because you are in Lich form. 13:40:12 yep, it works 13:40:38 anyway I'm removing it now 13:42:19 i never thought crawl actually referred to it as 'lichform' at any point 13:42:47 there are three separate places where forms are described 13:42:58 ...four 13:43:00 TRANS_LICH or something like that 13:43:02 the transformation message, @, %, and the morgue screen 13:43:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: status light 13:43:15 right 13:43:17 five 13:43:35 anyway, the status light is "Lich", and I think the... %? description is "lich-form" 13:43:38 something like that 13:45:41 <|amethyst> FR: (and it sounds like PF is working on this?) you_cannot_memorise isn't used to mean you_cannot_cast 13:46:28 ............... 13:46:30 is it used to mean that 13:46:35 <|amethyst> well 13:46:38 <|amethyst> I guess it's arguable 13:46:42 agh 13:46:58 if someone is going to fix / standardize that 13:47:01 <|amethyst> _get_spell_list's avoid_uncastable uses you_cannot_memorise 13:47:04 this is the chance to rename it to mummyform 13:47:15 <|amethyst> but maybe it really means avoid_unmemorisable 13:47:16 why would anyone want to be in mummyform 13:47:18 that sounds terrible 13:47:22 that is the point 13:47:26 haha 13:47:52 you want to in tomb! it makes perfect sense 13:48:03 rename it to mummyform_(HINT_HINT) 13:48:07 <|amethyst> spell_is_uncastable uses it but I guess you were looking at that already 13:48:13 |amethyst: that's generating books, so it looks reasonable? 13:48:25 _get_spell_list 13:48:30 lemme look at spell_is_uncastable 13:48:36 !source spell_is_uncastable 13:48:36 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-cast.cc;hb=HEAD#l977 13:48:37 its not mummy form because it doesnt give you rF- 13:48:39 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:43 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: spell_is_useless too 13:48:48 ah ha 13:48:53 welllll 13:48:55 hm 13:48:57 hey, do player mummies still have rF- set directly, or is this handeled by an innate mutation now? 13:49:06 <|amethyst> pretty much every use of that function needs to be reviewed IMO 13:49:07 evilmike: bet it's the former. let me check 13:49:07 it used to be, they just had their fire resist subtracted in some weird place 13:49:14 <|amethyst> to fix these bugs properly 13:49:33 evilmike: it is still that 13:49:36 :( 13:49:55 !source player_res_fire 13:49:56 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player.cc;hb=HEAD#l1571 13:50:12 <|amethyst> The current heat vul mutation won't work for that though 13:50:41 <|amethyst> IIRC it has weird interactions with the resistance mutations 13:50:52 <|amethyst> maybe it prevented gaining them? 13:50:53 why would mummies get other mutations 13:50:57 they're mummies 13:51:07 <|amethyst> oh, qazlal doesn't do that anymore 13:51:12 doesn't he? 13:51:19 I guess he'd slap that on you, yea 13:51:20 <|amethyst> not permanent ones 13:51:28 true, but.. mm 13:51:45 anyway. |amethyst: I'm renaming & reworking the function as "can_memorise_spell", since I don't like negative function names 13:51:53 which will make it easy to catch all the places where it was used before :) 13:52:04 possibly it should be integrated with is_useless_spell in some way 13:52:58 possibly it should just pass false to transient in spell_is_useless 13:53:08 -!- rorriMnmaD has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:53:33 <|amethyst> I think part of the problem is also that we don't pass the correct value for transient sometimes 13:53:39 fuck me 13:53:51 okay I'm just going to kind of 13:53:53 stash this for now 13:53:55 <|amethyst> :) 13:53:57 and fix it in a later commit 13:54:05 since this commit is already quite large enough 13:54:23 (I'm removing you.is_undead and replacing it with you.undead_state(temp)) 13:55:34 -!- oberstein has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:47 ahahaha yess it's loopy the loop variable 13:58:26 hm. I guess this will require save compat work? 13:59:15 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:05 git pull origin master after cding into crawl will update from the repo right? 14:00:16 just git pull should be sufficient 14:00:29 oh okay 14:00:44 git pull origin master does a more specific thing that may not be desirable 14:09:00 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:10:27 ugh i just found out the hard way that copying a crawl executable over from DESTDIR isn't such a good idea if you need debugging symbols intact 14:10:42 not copying over a 150MiB executable should have clued me in :/ 14:11:19 johnny0: what happened to them? 14:11:28 or did they get stripped by install -s 14:11:31 they get stripped when installed 14:12:35 whoops! 14:14:48 hmm, that's not Policy compliant 14:14:55 windows stack traces post-strip are pretty useless though, but including 140MiB of symbols with each build... 14:15:36 we really should un-lobotomize the contrib build systems :-( 14:18:17 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18:47 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 14:19:04 <|amethyst> SamB =~ s/ contrib// 14:19:24 -!- eb_mobile has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:26 well, ours wasn't lobotomized as far as I know 14:20:43 <|amethyst> true, our is getting smarter anyway 14:21:20 <|amethyst> s/our/ours/ 14:23:56 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:10 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:26:06 huh. amulets of clarity don't block, specifically, potions of rage. 14:26:17 -!- Behavioral has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:27:32 <|amethyst> does it block +rage? 14:27:33 nvm, the "potion" param is misnamed 14:27:38 <|amethyst> ah 14:27:49 <|amethyst> IIRC clarity is supposed to block only unintentional rage 14:27:52 my opinion has always been that amulets of clarity should block hostile "mental effects" 14:27:53 yes 14:27:57 or unintentional 14:28:09 I was confused by the !potion 14:28:25 i think clarity is a pretty weird effect though, there are some mind-affecting things which don't check clarity 14:28:50 i can't even remember which ones do and which ones don't though 14:33:15 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35:06 -!- Twiggytwiggytwig has quit [Quit: See ya guys later ;)] 14:36:15 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:00 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:43:01 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:22 -!- Svendre has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:47:55 huh, there's still code to note that teleport self is useless if you have stasis on 14:47:57 good to know 14:48:25 -!- Tungsten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:02:13 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:36 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:20 -!- VitaminB5 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08:28 -!- sleepkrab is now known as Atomikkrab 15:08:29 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:13:15 _Z17write_stack_traceP6_iobufi [0]: write_stack_trace(_iobuf*, int) 15:13:17 yay 15:17:05 -!- sstrickl has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 15:24:23 " Ru will monitor your progress and you explore the dungeon and defeat its inhabitants." pretty sure that should be "as you explore" 15:26:27 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:40 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:28:43 -!- coolbeans has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:28:59 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:29:56 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30:29 <|amethyst> eb: probably !tell Lasty or at least ping him 15:31:15 thanks, I threw it in here so smarter people can me could remind me what exactly I was supposed to do with that 15:31:23 !tell Lasty "Ru will monitor your progress and you explore the dungeon and defeat its inhabitants." pretty sure that should be "as you explore" 15:31:23 eb: OK, I'll let lasty know. 15:31:29 *than me 15:32:39 |amethyst: how useful do you find the stack dump versus the GDB output in crashlogs? 15:32:57 <|amethyst> gdb output is usually a lot more useful 15:34:04 ahh that's what i figured 15:36:10 getting the current source line for each stack frame seems pretty easy on windows (once the general stack walk is done), but if the other gdb output like local vars and such makes a big difference 15:36:51 <|amethyst> that's fine; if someone has GDB we can run it, otherwise stack trace is better than nothing 15:37:40 <|amethyst> or maybe on Windows we have to ask them to run the debugger themselves 15:38:55 i mean, I can probably get the CreateProcess/CreatePipe stuff working without too much sweat (i've done some stuff like that before), but there are other potential issues 15:45:47 -!- pikaro has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:45:52 cygwin needs to use the same stack trace code path as mingw programs, but using fork/exec makes more sense on cygwin than CreateProcess/CreatePipe due to path issues 15:54:20 -!- agenius has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:57:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:58:44 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 15:58:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 16:00:33 Small vault submission 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8862 by Cheibrodos 16:01:04 rip cheibrodos 16:01:27 I'm wondering if I should let vampires transmute at any time or not at all. 16:03:22 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:07 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:09:48 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:08 hrm. How could we find the longest chain of ghost kills? 16:10:31 what's a chain of ghost kills? 16:10:52 player a dies. Player A's ghost kills player B. Player B's ghost kills C. And so on 16:12:50 huh, no idea 16:13:18 well, I mean, it would be simple to script I guess, IF we track which ghost came from what game 16:14:04 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:14:16 a related thing is ghost kill streaks 16:14:18 and include that in the ghost kill score entry 16:14:22 e.g. number of players killed by one ghost 16:14:51 the best one i know of happened on lair:2 and killed people with level 9 spells and high powered iron shot and crap like that 16:14:55 nice 16:15:01 dang. 16:15:02 pretty sure the relevant information isn't currently tracked 16:15:04 maybe I'll try to add it 16:15:07 I left a fire stormer in zot:5 last night 16:15:09 it was years ago but i think it got like 6 kills 16:15:15 I have ghost refactoring on my plate at some point 16:15:17 you could probably find it by just looking for fire storm deaths in lair 16:15:33 !lg * lair kaux="great blast of fire" 16:15:33 3. VanVeen the Cleaver (L12 MiHu of Okawaru), blasted by laxity's ghost (great blast of fire) on Lair:2 on 2012-04-14 07:26:44, with 14648 points after 14007 turns and 0:54:00. 16:15:36 !lg * lair kaux="great blast of fire" s=killer 16:15:36 3 games for * (lair kaux='great blast of fire'): 2x laxity's ghost, rath's ghost 16:15:40 yeah i think it's that one 16:15:47 !lg * killer="laxity's ghost" s=place 16:15:47 92 games for * (killer='laxity\1s ghost'): 30x D:3, 17x D:4, 10x D:6, 8x D:5, 5x Lair:2, 4x IceCv, 4x D:8, 2x D:10, 2x Lair:4, 2x D:9, 2x Lair:3, D:18, D:15, Ossuary, D:7, D:11, Bailey 16:16:05 !lg * killer="laxity's ghost" place=lair:2 s=kaux 16:16:06 5 games for * (killer='laxity\1s ghost' place=lair:2): 2x great blast of fire, 2x crystal spear, flame 16:16:09 nice 16:16:13 yeah thats the one 16:16:35 that seems like an unkind ghost 16:16:45 funny though 16:16:49 i've always wanted to know if there are other legendary ghosts like that 16:16:56 i figure there must be one higher than 5x... 16:17:18 !lg * killer="bh's ghost" 16:17:19 31. fearitself the Cutter (L5 KoAK of Lugonu), slain by bh's ghost on D:3 on 2014-04-24 01:43:06, with 211 points after 2684 turns and 0:13:13. 16:17:28 !gkills bh 16:17:29 31 kills by bh's ghost: pendevin, Yorikke, oppbolic, daku, assassass, Cab, JasonSabre, ion, melmothX, magistern, Bruce, gruevy, Orshelack, heteroy, noom, Temujin, Voker57, DrPraetor, Ragdoll, newuser, phyphor, agentgt, fearitself, MakMorn, timbw, Kaidessa, crux, TheMagicThingy, DEMON, Misteyy, adrock 16:17:40 !gkills LordSloth 16:17:41 95 kills by LordSloth's ghost: 4x LordSloth, 2x poop, 2x Shovelmint, 2x capslocke, sorear, Tityrus, porpoise, Assbag, ystael, splat, DemoRobin, cottonhead, PoopBridge, assassass, Arson, Jmadman311, Dalarist, Nethris, 9to, imantor, GlueC, le665, Danei, davejl, Cyriela, Arcanus, zyrkx, umrain, gruevy, LoknarGor, ogaz, Blackmore, m00se, christhawk, NightMan, talkingcatjazzcat, chrs, soldroz, darkli, ... 16:17:42 <|amethyst> FR: tag ghosts with the start time (and thus gid) of the game they came from 16:17:57 <|amethyst> so sequell can query for that 16:18:08 not a bad idea, tbh 16:18:33 you could work that into the next tournament if theres still time 16:18:41 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:19:00 <|amethyst> evilmike: do you have any opinions on qazlal banners? 16:19:04 an award for the deadliest single ghost. suddenly draconian becomes 3x more popular 16:19:08 <|amethyst> speaking of tournament 16:19:15 that sounds like a Feature 16:19:16 i haven't seen it, or anything to do with the next tournament actually 16:19:21 added after the Feature Freeze 16:19:26 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: features for the tournament are fine :) 16:19:32 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: well 16:19:45 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: within reason 16:19:48 mm 16:19:49 heh 16:19:54 i,i they're more like guidelines 16:19:56 if you think it could be reasonably implemented, I'd be all for it 16:20:15 yeah the thing i'm working on is sort of under feature freeze, or ought to be by this stage. its not like that ever stopped anyone :P 16:20:24 that's not a good thing!!!! 16:20:35 evilmike: current tournament status is that elliptic is trying to step down and no one else is really stepping up 16:20:37 not quite ideal 16:22:13 <|amethyst> thinking about it more I don't think this feature is reasonable for post-branching, because it requires a new minor tag 16:23:14 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 16:23:17 save compat makes me touchy 16:23:41 also, handling save compat between 0.15 and 0.16 minor tags sounds potentially messy 16:23:50 Vampires that are strong pleases my soul. 16:26:20 !lg * place=d:1 kaux=fire storm 16:26:20 No keyword 'storm' 16:26:26 !lg * place=d:1 kaux='fire storm' 16:26:26 No games for * (place=d:1 kaux='fire storm'). 16:27:17 !lg * d:1 kaux="great blast of fire" 16:27:18 No games for * (d:1 kaux='great blast of fire'). 16:27:31 !lg * d:1 kaux=great_blast_of_fire 16:27:32 No games for * (d:1 kaux=great_blast_of_fire). 16:27:32 !lg * d:1 kaux="great balls of fire" 16:27:32 No games for * (d:1 kaux='great balls of fire'). 16:27:37 !lg * kaux=great_blast_of_fire 16:27:38 253. striker the Sorcerer (L27 HEWz of Sif Muna), blasted by Grixobur the pandemonium lord (great blast of fire) on Zig:16 on 2014-08-02 15:45:52, with 661473 points after 91992 turns and 15:57:15. 16:28:02 hm 16:28:04 ??lg 16:28:04 listgame[1/5]: !lg command displays info about past games. The manual is available here: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md 16:28:11 !lg * kaux=great_blast_of_fire min=lvl 16:28:12 253. mikee the Metallomancer (L23 DDEE of Makhleb), blasted by ZaurenTour's ghost (great blast of fire) in Hell on 2009-08-07 22:37:57, with 334665 points after 78752 turns and 8:12:44. 16:28:16 !lg * kaux=great_blast_of_fire min=lvl d 16:28:16 28. pentatonic the Archmage (L27 DEWz of Vehumet), killed themself with a badly aimed great blast of fire on D:5 on 2013-10-30 14:34:11, with 670494 points after 197327 turns and 1d+13:50:51. 16:28:24 <3 16:28:30 dang......... 16:28:38 hm 16:28:45 !lg * killer="pentatonic's ghost" d:5 16:28:45 No games for * (killer='pentatonic\1s ghost' d:5). 16:28:47 rip 16:28:54 !gkills pentatonic 16:28:55 No games for * (ikiller~~^(pentatonic).s?_ghost). 16:29:12 !lg * kaux=great_icy_blast d min=lvl 16:29:12 4. ontoclasm the Petrodigitator (L27 FoEE of Qazlal), blasted by Fuosics the pandemonium lord (great icy blast) on D:1 (dpeg_arrival_more_subterranean_lakeside_camping) on 2014-08-05 15:32:30, with 641903 points after 95422 turns and 9:26:39. 16:29:19 can we remove the flying creature damage reduction for shatter? 16:29:29 why would we do that? 16:30:08 !lg * kaux=~great_blast place=d:3 16:30:10 1. prnstrntrng the Skirmisher (L4 MfFi), blasted by StopHavingBoringTun's ghost (great blast of cold) on D:3 on 2012-12-10 01:29:33, with 166 points after 2123 turns and 0:11:44. 16:30:18 it's a non-obvious effect impacting a level 9 spell 16:30:30 its in the spell description isnt it? 16:30:31 it's like making glaciate deal less damage if you remembered to lace your shoes 16:30:46 if you want to improve that, add a "the foo resists" message when it hits flying enemies 16:31:00 it is in fact in the description now, yes 16:31:14 ........ 16:31:19 and that was a terrible analogy, bh. 16:31:22 its such a huge part of the spell.. its level 9, really good against some stuff, weak against other stuff. seems to do its job 16:31:35 I'd agree that better messaging would be good 16:32:35 the only unresisted l9 spell (unless you count air elementals) is tornado, but it deals damage over time instead of in one burst 16:33:01 I've played a lot of crawl and I had no idea shatter worked that way 16:33:08 the old description didn't mention it 16:33:10 which was bad 16:33:19 I fixed it 16:33:40 PleasingFungus: The most fungi! 16:34:59 :) 16:35:36 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:36:28 !source spl-damage.cc:1159 16:36:28 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/spl-damage.cc;hb=HEAD#l1159 16:37:29 you'd add a message about resists here, based on dam_dice.num 16:37:44 possibly also in the corresponding player function 16:38:51 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:03 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:42:40 perennial question: can we use c++11 yet? 16:42:54 last I heard SamB had some MVC concerns 16:43:40 I don't see what my confusion about the Model-View-Controller [er, um,] model[?] has to do with it 16:43:57 stupid question: what do you guys think about me ruining vampires? 16:44:06 Bloaxor: did you? 16:44:12 he's working on a vampire revamp 16:44:18 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/strong_vampires.txt they're pretty fun atm 16:44:27 I think it's good to have ideas and enthusiasm 16:44:35 somewhat unbalanced but what do you expect from unfinished stuff 16:44:53 idk how much sense it makes to hare off and implement things on the spot, but if you're having fun, it's all good 16:45:16 SamB: er... something about C++ on windows 16:45:27 yeah, I don't really know MSVC too well 16:45:46 that one 16:46:15 which features did we want again? 16:46:59 auto is a nice one for lazy programming 16:47:11 Can you force-drain a player? 16:49:21 not afaik 16:49:59 Bloaxor: I don't think we even implement the Force 16:50:16 boooo 16:50:17 that's good because jedi are silly things 16:50:24 even sillier than these vampires 16:50:54 I'm hitting bumps on draining your own blood into a bottle though. 16:51:04 mainly because where the hell does this thing even do things 16:52:44 try food.cc 16:52:48 or butcher.cc 16:52:50 I forget 16:52:53 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:58 beware: butcher.cc is kind of scary 16:53:15 it likely is butcher.cc 16:53:24 what with the whole turn_corpse_into_blood_potions 16:53:53 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:53:54 i've successfully messed the ability up though, so now it doesn't even try that 16:54:27 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:58:22 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:58:25 eb: thanks for the typo report! 16:58:26 Lasty: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:00:00 bh: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh567368.aspx may be of some use; dunno 17:01:30 I think I'm going to remove wispform acid immunity 17:01:33 because it's weird 17:01:40 and there's no good way to communicate it to the player 17:01:43 and no reason for it to exist 17:01:55 does fire storm still cause fire vortices to be burned by walls in a spammy way? 17:02:00 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:02:01 because those should be acid immune instead 17:02:19 no idea 17:02:41 probably insubstantial enemies shouldn't be burned by walls, at lesat 17:02:43 *least 17:04:29 unsurprisingly enough i have no idea how to give items either 17:04:32 this is wonderful 17:05:34 (or well i do see how turn_corpse_into_blood_potions does it but that doesn't mean i have any idea about what it does) 17:08:19 it's weird and unintuitive 17:08:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:08:26 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.16-a0-110-ge8ded92 (34) 17:08:27 what exactly are you trying to do? 17:08:51 i'm trying to make the "bottle blood" ability drain you instead of corpses 17:09:05 except i am now hitting walls in the "yeah now how do you give an item" department 17:09:10 -!- siepu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:09:17 the fact that i can barely read c++ doesn't help 17:09:34 (clearly this was a good idea) 17:09:46 basically there are 17:09:49 two big lists of items 17:10:00 the inventory list, and the "floor & monster & shop items" list 17:10:10 anything that's not on the current floor doesn't exist 17:10:16 the lists are fixed size 17:10:43 each slot contains an item, which may be a "no item here" item 17:10:46 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:11:01 (something about being not valid) 17:11:21 to "make an item", you choose a free slot (if you can find one - which isn't guaranteed), and populate its fields as appopriate 17:11:46 set its base type to potion, subtype to blood potion, and then fuck around with a few other things 17:11:57 presumably there is a function to do the "choose a free slot" 17:12:00 part 17:12:03 yes 17:12:10 just mentioning that it's not guaranteed that you'll find one 17:12:15 (though in practice you will) 17:12:23 on the floor you are just about guaranteed to 17:12:28 I believe there is also code to *make* it so 17:12:31 true 17:12:32 for the floor 17:12:34 that's dangerous, though 17:12:38 since that'll start destroying things 17:12:42 indeed 17:14:02 incide: who even comes up with these names | incide: flame tongue beastly appendage shaft self 17:14:18 comic webtileschat relief 17:14:26 lewd 17:14:55 also as it turned out you *can* actually die from starvation 17:15:14 you can! 17:15:16 which was pretty cool but not exactly a good idea for an ability 17:16:00 also would you guys kill me if i said that i'm actually doing things straight in ability.cc 17:16:32 -!- stanzwecha is now known as stanzill 17:16:37 so that it's nice and visible instead of scattered across five different files 17:17:17 things can be refactored 17:17:31 well if this is ever going to be a commit you're gonna have one hell of a time 17:17:35 because i can't into git 17:17:39 so it's all one big blob of changes 17:17:53 like 17:17:57 I think git is the least of your problems 17:18:01 <|amethyst> Should Fedhas allow sublimation now? 17:18:09 yes 17:18:21 fedhas allows regen, right? 17:18:27 <|amethyst> yes 17:18:30 then yes. 17:18:58 also as nice as your description was i must admit defeat here 17:19:00 should we just give Fedhas the "good god" bit? 17:19:06 because i have no idea on how to do that :^D 17:19:07 -!- blabber has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:20:16 03|amethyst02 07* 0.16-a0-111-gd2305cc: Let Fedhasites sublimate. 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2305cce9048 17:20:35 <|amethyst> bh: I don't think so, that has several other implications that don't really fit 17:21:46 <|amethyst> bh: And I think it's fine that Fedhas allows only about half of Necro; the half you lose is mostly about allies (which you already get), with a few exceptions like corpse rot and necromutation 17:21:50 <|amethyst> err 17:21:56 <|amethyst> not corpse rot, fedhas is fine with that 17:24:55 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:41 -!- read has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:26:04 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:52 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:35 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:35:06 -!- MrPlanck has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:35:12 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:36:16 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 17:45:18 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:50:08 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:53:47 -!- ProzacElf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:05 -!- ProzacElf_ is now known as ProzacElf 18:04:47 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:42 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:09:56 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:15:52 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:19 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 18:17:10 -!- raskol_ is now known as raskol 18:18:36 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:22:04 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:23:35 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:42 Stable (0.15) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-b1-55-g17c0860 18:26:22 -!- Ratboiler2 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:28:48 -!- markgo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29:58 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:33:07 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:34:13 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:34:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:35:56 -!- soundlust|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:41:31 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:43:56 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49:55 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:51 Webtiles server stopped. 18:56:53 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:03 Webtiles server started. 18:58:38 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: au rev] 18:58:40 |amethyst: any chance of a ru rebuild? 18:58:51 -!- Lantell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:05 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:12 rchandra: are you asking me? :S 18:59:20 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:35 TZer0: if that's in your power, go for it :) 18:59:47 it isn't :P 18:59:54 -!- Vizer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:00:34 ??clan 19:00:34 clan[1/3]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/ or crawl.lantea.net, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.14 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 19:00:38 ??clan[2 19:00:38 clan[2/3]: Hosted by Aleksi, maintained by TZer0 19:00:40 ??clan[3 19:00:40 clan[3/3]: Rebuilds (times in GMT+1) trunk at 00:00, 0.12 at 06:00, 0.13 at 12:00, 0.14 at 18:00 19:00:49 !learn del clan[3 19:00:50 Deleted clan[3/3]: Rebuilds (times in GMT+1) trunk at 00:00, 0.12 at 06:00, 0.13 at 12:00, 0.14 at 18:00 19:01:35 !learn add clan[3 Rebuilds trunk at 00:00-GMT+1 and 0.15 at 20:00-GMT+1. 19:01:35 clan[3/3]: Rebuilds trunk at 00:00-GMT+1 and 0.15 at 20:00-GMT+1. 19:01:55 it seems to be working. Time to check ssh. 19:03:26 and done. 19:04:48 TZer0: any chance of a Ru branch then????? 19:07:26 I would basically have to repeat everything? 19:07:28 hmm 19:08:27 .. do I dare? :P 19:17:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:37 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:30:59 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 19:34:08 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:35:03 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:35:39 -!- amalloy is now known as amalloy_ 19:36:27 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:39:14 -!- tolly has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:40:34 -!- amalloy_ is now known as amalloy 19:51:13 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:56:55 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:45 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:05:05 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-112-g4bd060a: Add a prompt if a player tries to move with the Barbs status 10(7 weeks ago, 3 files, 17+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4bd060a9edfa 20:05:10 ^ might be a good cherry-pick for 0.15, I'm not sure. 20:05:28 Also 7 weeks ago, good messed up commit time. 20:06:57 -!- Stumpsv has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07:15 not all players have skin, reaverb. 20:07:21 this message violates my verismillitude. 20:07:44 Feel free to change it <_< >_> 20:07:50 "The spikes in your flesh" might work. 20:07:54 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:02 ugh, i'm getting output from gdb into the crashlog after attaching, but the traces are all worthless ntdll breakpoints 20:14:01 03reaverb02 07* 0.16-a0-113-gc8d9654: Refactor whip brand generation code 10(31 hours ago, 1 file, 13+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8d9654b7708 20:14:36 This weapon brand refactoring is going to be good for my net lines removed. 20:14:51 If it doesn't suddenly stall out for another six months <_< >_> 20:15:09 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:15:22 ahh there we go, grabbed a different gdb build 20:15:36 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:16:05 yeesh, the gdb wind up time is pretty long on windows 20:18:30 johnny0: presumably because of the big giant blob of DWARF? 20:18:59 it's not exactly fast on Linux, either 20:19:22 yeah, lots of symbols 20:19:27 johnny0: who even ported that part to run on Windows? 20:19:41 which part? 20:19:59 the code to invoke GDB 20:20:05 oh, me 20:20:39 well I guess *I'm* not to blame for this, then ;-) 20:21:47 gdb tends to do some strange stuff on windows... i've had a hard time finding a version that doesn't break for some reason or another during regular debugging 20:24:32 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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21:16:24 I considered it, but I do wonder about the underlying bug... 21:18:05 hm 21:18:13 i guess it could still happen to spriggans, too 21:18:38 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 21:19:00 ??mantis 21:19:00 mantis[1/1]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 21:19:01 what ticket is this? 21:19:28 !bug 8861 21:19:28 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8861 21:20:07 7135 can probably be closed as I'm pretty sure it's not a bug 21:21:46 also, i think that oklobs have been removed from most spawn lists anyway 21:22:06 !source mon-pick-data.h 21:22:07 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-pick-data.h;hb=HEAD 21:22:24 wow, still in lair 21:22:26 who knew 21:22:43 Should I remove them now or wait for the tourney end? 21:22:51 I've run into random-looking oklobs in lair, they seem useful 21:23:04 don't see anything wrong with them... 21:23:17 because you might expend resources fighting them to loot the vault, but there is no vault 21:23:26 Wait, didn't these have that "stainary monster randomly spawns" bug? 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