00:00:40 how did you even find that 00:01:11 google search for nemelex xobeh> 00:01:18 ? 00:01:24 someone linked it in the SA thread 00:01:28 I guess they're a wow fan? 00:01:37 it seems to be a very new item 00:02:22 -!- MrPeeps has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:02:40 oh, I have an idea (my ocd is kicking in over that command) 00:02:43 -!- warrigal2 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:04:08 actually nvm it won't work 00:05:59 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2150-g4d68560 (34) 00:06:02 -!- Stendarr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:12 rip in pizza 00:07:48 should regen be buffed a bit if it's an amulet? 00:08:03 like 40 -> 60 00:08:05 why 00:08:13 it's already stronger than most amulets 00:08:22 compare to rCorr, gourmand, rMut 00:08:36 yeah, I guess 00:08:52 maybe it should ramp up slowly as you wear it 00:09:01 -!- Sovek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:09:19 dunno 00:09:37 yeah maybe 00:09:43 there's still troll leather armour though 00:09:59 ...there is, yes 00:10:04 I am not sure why you're mentioning it 00:10:08 I think I've seen purplered carrying a troll hide armound 00:10:15 oh god 00:10:16 *around 00:10:32 and switching to heal presumably 00:11:06 that is Sufficiently Goofy that I don't even care 00:11:15 that throws a bit of a spanner in your anti-speedrunner works 00:11:22 my what 00:11:26 I don't give a shit about speedrunners 00:11:29 this is about ordinary players 00:11:36 yep 00:11:52 I was kidding 00:12:08 jokes are hard. 00:12:09 hm. 00:12:43 if I were to change all armour to take a fixed number of turns to wear/take off, what would it be? 00:12:52 s/turns/aut 00:13:31 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:13:48 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:13:58 ??troll hide 00:13:58 troll hide[1/1]: The skin of a troll, even more repugnantly smelly than most hides. Gives {Regen}. Putting it on you makes you smell like a troll. If only it were magical... (then it would be {troll leather armour}). 00:14:09 it's 2 AC now right? 00:14:21 yes 00:14:22 so it takes 30 aut? 00:14:48 yes. also, why is it based on ac instead of evp 00:14:53 also, why do you know that 00:15:15 I remember it from somewhere... 00:15:20 1+AC 00:15:24 turns 00:15:27 looks like 50 aut would be a little below midrange. 10 turns still sounds reasonable for switching slots, though 00:15:50 yeah, 10 would be fine 00:16:39 any idea where the relevant code is? 00:17:08 no... 00:17:14 it's cool I'm already greppin 00:17:41 got it 00:18:46 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2150-g4d68560 (34) 00:19:43 I guess this is a nerf to changing non-body-slot armour, since it'd go from 6 to 10 turns 00:20:46 hm. it actually turns into 11 turns. not sure why 00:21:06 -!- Dixlet has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:44 -!- MgDark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:23:34 -!- Dixlet_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:23:58 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:28:19 -!- Dixlet_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:42 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:22 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:31 -!- Dixlet has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:31:29 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:32:36 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:39:15 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:33 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2150-g4d68560 01:05:21 -!- ruwin has quit [] 01:11:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:12:49 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13:52 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:26:47 -!- predator117 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:28:50 -!- joy199 is now known as joy1999 01:35:11 -!- Kramin is now known as ashenzari 01:36:04 -!- ashenzari is now known as Kramin 01:38:44 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:39:28 -!- Nick__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:44:49 -!- Krakhan has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:44:51 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 01:44:51 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 01:45:23 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:47:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:49:28 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:56:22 -!- allbefore has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:16 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:00:17 -!- caricature has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:02:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:09:10 -!- tolly has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:10:05 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:19:31 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2150-g4d68560 (34) 02:24:42 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:02 -!- Stendarr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:21 -!- tali713 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:35:13 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:38 -!- Nomi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:36:35 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:38:04 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:52:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 02:53:16 -!- halberd is now known as Berder 02:53:54 -!- Berder is now known as halberd 03:00:12 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:02:14 -!- johnstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 06:37:14 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38:07 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:48:28 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:25 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:38 -!- halberd has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:01:05 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01:38 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:04:33 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:31 -!- fcrawl has joined ##crawl-dev 07:13:35 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 07:14:31 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:20 !messages 07:22:20 (1/5) PleasingFungus said (15h 25m 3s ago): http://pastebin.com/3uyU5byi something awful Ru playtest feedback 07:22:28 !messages 07:22:28 (1/4) PleasingFungus said (15h 23m 22s ago): I think she's underestimating power leap pretty severely, but she may be right that the magnitude of the sacrifices doesn't quite match the benefits given. 07:22:32 !messages 07:22:32 (1/3) reaverb said (15h 7m 58s ago): Oh, sorry about bringing up the Horr stuff then. Thanks! 07:22:34 !messages 07:22:35 (1/2) reaverb said (14h 47m 25s ago): I believe this is the log of that character from SA: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Haifisch/morgue-Haifisch-20140717-174954.txt 07:22:41 !messages 07:22:41 (1/1) reaverb said (14h 45m 44s ago): There is some other feedback in the logged webtiles chat of that character. 07:25:54 !tell pleasingfungus that's the first "underpowered" report I've gotten so far. I usually I hear something closer to "super OP!" They escaped w/ the orb, so it couldn't have been that bad. 07:25:54 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:28:56 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:44 he'll make it 07:33:47 fuck 07:33:51 wc 07:43:33 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:43:56 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:43:57 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:45 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:45:46 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 07:46:19 -!- Shome has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]] 07:51:22 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:52:12 -!- eb_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:08 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:45 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:01:44 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 08:05:58 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:13:19 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 08:15:05 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:15:55 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:16:43 <|amethyst> Should hogs be on Y? 08:18:05 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:18:17 <|amethyst> everything else on h is order carnivora 08:18:18 Makes sense to me 08:18:30 Seems like they belong w/ sheep and yaks 08:20:44 <|amethyst> I guess one problem is that Y is just as full as h, and would be completely full if we moved three monsters there 08:23:16 <|amethyst> could say ice/sky beasts are closer to bears/who knows, and move them to h 08:24:06 <|amethyst> but I guess that's a lot of shuffling for no clear gain (I hope people aren't using Crawl as their sole source for learning biology) 08:26:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:26:27 ha, tre 08:26:29 *true 08:26:39 I forgot that ice/sky beasts are in the Y category 08:27:09 I mean, it would probably make sense to put fast beasts in h and normal-speed beasts in Y, except that it would super-overload Y 08:27:21 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:32:22 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:01 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:39:42 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46:28 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:50:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:07 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:56:36 -!- pentax has quit [Quit: fk u in the coffee...] 09:01:38 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 09:16:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 09:20:42 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:25:28 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:22 -!- MrPeeps has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:36:01 -!- axecop has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:36:13 -!- vible_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:36:23 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:14 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:00 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:52 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:55:16 -!- GrFi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:02:49 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:52 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:06:58 -!- sstrickl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:09:26 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:21:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0a1/20140717030339]] 10:21:31 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 10:21:44 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:32:31 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:36:35 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:36:35 -!- ZRN___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:57 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:26 wtf @ https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8718#c26770 10:42:29 that escalated quickly 10:43:58 pathological is an interesting word choice 10:44:07 did you mean: weird 10:44:24 this is irc, not thesaurus.com 10:44:27 also can you actually tell which boggart summoned that group of titans 10:44:33 idk i have trouble 10:45:17 since I'm pretty sure you can't 10:46:52 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:47:36 -!- SpongeJr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:47:38 -!- SquishMe is now known as SpongeJr 10:47:54 eb_: if by "quickly" you mean "a month later" 10:47:56 but yeah 10:48:27 by quickly I meant in arbitrary units of replies 10:48:33 aur 10:49:07 now that aum are gone, we're at terrible risk of running low on arbitrary units! (except that aum aren't really gone, of course) 10:51:00 arbitrary units of arbitrary units 10:51:15 arbitrary urist units 10:52:05 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:37 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 10:59:18 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:03:52 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:06:52 -!- read has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:07:01 -!- dat0ctopode has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:07:25 -!- Morg0th_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:18:21 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:46 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:19:46 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 11:20:20 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21:38 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:22 wow 11:26:24 this boulder beetle 11:27:16 !lm . -tv:T20100 11:27:16 1653. perunasaurus, XL11 DrEn, T:14702 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:27:20 it just went on a damn rampage 11:27:33 -!- RiotInferno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:27:50 !lm . -tv:T20099 11:27:51 1653. perunasaurus, XL11 DrEn, T:14702 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 11:28:30 BOULDER BEETLE SMASH 11:28:40 er, wrong channel 11:28:47 -!- Kvaak has left ##crawl-dev 11:29:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:31:26 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:44 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38:01 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 11:43:16 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:43:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:55 a strange implication, that there could be a wrong channel for boulder beetle escapades... 11:51:20 that concept is confusing me PleasingFungus 11:51:35 like 11:51:46 there could exist channels in which boulder beetle antics are not appropriate? 11:55:54 -!- halberd has quit [Changing host] 11:59:56 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:57 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 12:01:08 very confusing 12:03:24 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-2150-g4d68560 (34) 12:04:23 -!- stickyfingers has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:08:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:13:12 -!- Rarn has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 12:16:13 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:01 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:16 -!- jaumoose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:27:21 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:30:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:32:58 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:33:31 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:34:33 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:44 -!- djetty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:41:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:04 -!- puppyknuckle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:48:58 -!- alefury has quit [] 12:52:17 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:26 -!- dat0ctopode has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:56:44 %git 544e086 12:56:44 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-1954-g544e086: Replace Yred freezing wraiths with vampires 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=544e08629d5f 12:59:39 freezing wraiths are speed 10 now and vampires are kind of annoying allies since their casting invis constantly makes the display during travel weird 12:59:54 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:00:05 i wonder if freezing wraiths are too strong for that slot now, though 13:00:21 rip flaming corpses 13:00:29 hm 13:00:37 death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 10 | HP: 49-80 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1016 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 13:00:37 %??death cob 13:00:41 freezing wraith (12W) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 30-57 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1612(cold:8-23), 1313(drain speed) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 06magic(42), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 313 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 13:00:41 %??freezing wraith 13:00:47 perhaps not. 13:01:03 i hope you're not implying taking away yred's best gift 13:01:55 just thinkin', that's all. 13:01:58 just thinkin'. 13:04:52 !source mon-geat 13:04:52 Couldn't understand -geat 13:04:55 !source mon-gear.cc 13:04:55 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mon-gear.cc;hb=HEAD 13:05:16 wow, he doesn't even have a chance for a greatsling 13:05:20 poor joseph 13:06:49 -!- read has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:17 * wheals disappears in a burst of microwaves! 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I like that. 14:59:25 no real opinion on "regen, same turns for all armour makes sense to me though 14:59:58 I was mentally flipping a coin wrt making aux armour take 3 turns 15:00:08 it Feels Right but it's probably better to keep things simple 15:00:26 what is it now? 15:00:48 I think it's currently (base ac + 1) turns, so 2 for aux? except hats and bardings 15:02:41 also I guess this would be a nerf to powerful high-speed robes-swapping tech 15:02:55 if the default is now 3 turns, it's not a nerf 15:03:05 no, he was planning on 10 15:03:07 i think 15:03:11 oh, I misunderstood 15:03:33 it's currently 2 to take off + 2 to put on 15:03:48 for aux armour 15:04:01 I have a commit that makes it 5 to take off + 5 to put on; I was thinking of making aux armour 3 + 3 15:04:28 but I don't really have a strong justification for the 3+3 thing besides 'feel' 15:04:44 i guess "regen sounds like it would be better than most amulets, maybe 15:05:08 yeah 15:05:16 it's still going to do the thing where it's rarer than most jewellery 15:05:19 the weird reroll code 15:06:01 !source get_random_ring_type 15:06:01 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc;hb=HEAD#l2996 15:06:07 ^ 15:06:41 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:52 but honestly it's basically competitive with guardian spirit, so I'm just leaving that in the interests of minimal change 15:07:08 well that's where you're wrong, and the snozzcucumber should stay!!! 15:07:40 (if that's what you're talking about) 15:07:42 *snozzcumber 15:08:07 (no I'm talking about http://sprunge.us/KETd ) 15:08:34 is there opposition? 15:09:17 not that I've seen. just didn't want to ram a major change through in the dead of night 15:09:51 well, wheals was critiquing, but that's not "opposition" 15:09:59 haha, "wheals" 15:10:09 not what I meant!!! 15:10:25 I'm giving him a hard time since I have him as a dev kill now 15:10:30 nice 15:10:38 killboard gettin' full 15:10:43 hrm, I guess one counterpoint to making it an amulet is that we could just remove it, since other sources of regen are pretty plentiful 15:10:48 also kind of wanted feedback wrt save compat - it feels right to upgrade existing rings, but I have no idea how to avoid having people wearing two amulets when the tag switches 15:10:51 I hate removing things!!!! 15:10:57 I've noticed. 15:11:17 embrace the removal. It is your destiny 15:11:23 "hm yes let's remove everything" - a HUGE LOSER of a dev who is probably SMELLY and NO GOOD. 15:11:35 whoops, sorry, signed my message there 15:11:38 it's cool to have some stuff that is on lots of different types of things 15:11:49 like haste, that's stuck on lots of random uniques 15:11:59 yeah I'm not opposed to it being an amulet and think it'd at least be some kind of improvement 15:12:03 !!! 15:12:13 didn't I steal that idea from you 15:12:19 PleasingFungus: well consider that crawl has this kind of design space were bad ideas can come in and play around a while 15:12:19 I could swear I did 15:12:32 and we can remove the ones that don't quite work out; some others turn out to be not so bad 15:12:39 which idea, "let's remove everything"? 15:13:02 so being against removal on principle prevents new semi-good things from coming in 15:13:09 if it's any consolation i stole that from mpa!!! 15:13:51 !lg * ikiller=ghost_crab s=name 15:13:51 One game for * (ikiller=ghost_crab): FishServ 15:13:54 Honestly, regen as a not-easily-swappable amulet is less problematic than the Regen spell and regen rings. 15:13:55 hahahaha 15:14:05 like jump attack is a good example. It's kind of just a bad idea, after I've seen it a bit, but it helped enable shadow-step, which I think is the better form 15:14:11 got him back for shouting at me on that ticket! 15:14:16 if someone removed the mutations/boots, I'd be ok with that 15:14:23 or maybe it was why he was cranky at me 15:14:48 wheals: or perhaps you're not even special in that regard! 15:15:30 yeah I don't think regen the amulet is bad to try; I guess it'd be nice if we could have a more tactical effect to it somehow 15:15:36 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:16:00 there is talk of an mp-regen item, but doubling up hp and mp regen in one item would be too much probably 15:16:24 and mp-regen is not very tactical either, although it is a bit moreso 15:16:33 imo jump attack is neat 15:16:44 PleasingFungus: yeah, it's "neat" as an idea, but in practice 15:16:49 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:16:53 If the amulet regen rate is high enough, it's tactical 15:17:12 Lasty: have you actually run the numbers on that? 15:17:16 gammafunk: no I mean, in practice, I've had a lot of fun jump-attacking things 15:17:36 PleasingFungus: well remember when you were talking about optimality wrt to fighting multiple enemies etc 15:17:46 it's just generally not a good item to use 15:18:39 I had fun coding it though 15:18:44 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:18:50 PleasingFungus: No, but +hp is a tactical effect, and amulet of regen is effectively +(time of fight / regen rate increase) hp, which you can potentially increase by taking actions that draw out the fight. 15:18:53 it's extremely good at dealing with enemies who cause trouble at range, though, especially non-LOF trouble 15:19:37 it is good because it does encourage you to "move forward" in a sense - I think even minmay might agree with me here (for similar reasons to why he thought his attack-on-move-toward-an-enemy weapon gimmick would be good) 15:19:37 er +(time of fight * regen rate increase) 15:19:46 my complaint is that it's generally better to just use LOS, corners, etc 15:19:51 and no he doesn't like jump-attack 15:19:54 oh 15:19:56 rip 15:19:56 rip 15:20:01 ty sequell 15:20:19 hopefully I can try to remove my own thing and PF and I can get in a revert war 15:20:35 I am very excite. 15:20:59 too bad he's better at actually making commits 15:21:01 why would PleasingFungus want to preserve asterion?! 15:21:15 wheals: do you *know* how long I spent rewriting his description?????? 15:21:21 haha 15:21:37 I don't think I can top the ebarret kill anyhow 15:23:36 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:23:48 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:55 .gmap 15:24:01 30. isthral the Tortoise (L20 HOFi of Beogh), mangled by a spriggan berserker (a +0 war axe) (led by the Enchantress) on Depths:3 (gammafunk_depths_water_palace) on 2014-07-18 04:30:40, with 281881 points after 44180 turns and 6:45:08. 15:24:21 I wonder if she is the most dangerous depths unique 15:24:43 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:24:45 !lg cv=0.15-a ikiller=unique place=depths 15:24:45 No games for gammafunk (cv=0.15-a ikiller=unique place=depths). 15:24:49 !lg * cv=0.15-a ikiller=unique place=depths 15:24:50 No games for * (cv=0.15-a ikiller=unique place=depths). 15:24:55 !lg * cv=0.15-a ikiller=uniq place=depths 15:24:56 47. kimelon the Executioner (L18 MiFi of Okawaru), blasted by Margery (bolt of fire) on Depths:4 on 2014-07-18 02:25:38, with 203457 points after 44532 turns and 3:25:31. 15:25:01 !lg * cv=0.15-a ikiller=uniq place=depths s=ikiller 15:25:02 47 games for * (cv=0.15-a ikiller=uniq place=depths): 12x Sojobo, 5x Mennas, 4x Jory, 4x Aizul, 3x Norris, 3x Margery, 2x Frederick, 2x Nikola, 2x Saint Roka, 2x Wiglaf, 2x Mara, 2x Jorgrun, 2x Xtahua, Plog, Tiamat 15:25:20 odd 15:25:22 >Plog 15:25:25 ok then 15:25:28 also haha plog 15:25:34 The Enchantress is easily the Depths unique I fear most 15:25:38 Sojobo is 2nd 15:25:48 I don't particularly care about any of the others 15:25:52 not sure why she isn't showing up here 15:26:00 !lg * cv=0.15-a ikiller=the_enchantress place=depths s=ikiller 15:26:01 44 games for * (cv=0.15-a ikiller=the_enchantress place=depths): 44x the Enchantress 15:26:04 ....wow 15:26:09 yeah 15:26:35 the Enchantress (13i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 15 | HP: 100 | AC/EV: 1/28 | Dam: 26 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, DMsl | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold | XP: 3705 | Sp: dimension anchor, slow, haste, mass confusion, strip resistance, 04esc:invisibility | Sz: little | Int: high. 15:26:35 %??the_enchantress 15:27:03 mass confusion has Grunt written all over it 15:28:05 She also comes with a band of nasty monsters that are also faster than you, and all of them can have elec/distortion weapons 15:28:19 yeah the band is likely the critical factor with her 15:28:33 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29:00 !killratio * the_enchantress cv=0.15-a 15:29:01 No battles for * and No games for the_enchantress. (cv=0.15-a). 15:29:07 similarly, sojobo's got some fun dangerous pals 15:29:11 exactly 15:29:18 !killratio the_enchantress cv=0.15-a 15:29:18 the_enchantress wins 0.0% of battles against PleasingFungus. 15:29:20 !killratio the_enchantress * cv=0.15-a 15:29:21 Plus he has permanent dmsl, IIRC 15:29:22 the_enchantress wins 5.257% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:29:29 I think she does too 15:29:30 huh, lower than I'd thought I guess 15:29:37 very high for depths 15:29:41 Frederick (03@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 21 | HP: 159 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 27 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(140) | XP: 3749 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25), b.cold (3d30), invisibility, iron shot (3d36) | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:29:41 %??frederick 15:29:43 !killratio lamia cv=0.15-a 15:29:44 No battles for lamia and gammafunk. 15:29:48 !killratio lamia * cv=0.15-a 15:29:49 lamia was way earlier! 15:29:50 No battles for lamia and * (cv=0.15-a). 15:29:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:29:54 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:30:01 also, uh, 0.15? 15:30:01 oh duh 15:30:04 !killratio lamia * 15:30:06 lamia wins 11.23% of battles. 15:30:09 cheating 15:30:09 and ...crap 15:30:12 not lamia 15:30:18 !killratio vashnia * cv=0.15-a 15:30:20 vashnia wins 9.138% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:30:36 !killratio asterion * cv=0.15-a 15:30:38 asterion wins 2.068% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:30:41 uniques with big bands are the new big thing 15:30:44 fr: musical unique 15:31:13 that risk/reward for uniques thing is still 0.16 todo 15:31:17 ya 15:31:45 !killratio sojobo * cv=0.15-a 15:31:47 sojobo wins 2.300% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:31:57 !killratio frederick * cv=0.15-a 15:31:59 frederick wins 0.603% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:32:01 !killratio boris * cv=0.15-a 15:32:04 boris wins 0.751% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:32:09 -!- Tenda has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:32:12 5% is pretty high 15:32:15 another offender 15:32:21 !killratio jorgrun * cv-0.15-a 15:32:22 Subcommand $(!lg * cv-0.15-a ikiller=jorgrun fmt:"${n}" stub:"0") failed: No keyword 'cv-0.15-a' in $(= ${ratio} NaN) in $(if $(= ${ratio} NaN) No ba... 15:32:25 !killratio jorgrun * cv=0.15-a 15:32:29 jorgrun wins 3.066% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:32:38 Jorgrun can place way earlier 15:32:55 Lasty: yes but he's far more dangerous than those in where he places 15:32:56 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: Bye] 15:33:04 well he's significantly more dangerous at least 15:33:20 Yeah, exactly -- nasty uniques like Jorgrun that also place early will have way higher kill ratio than anything in Depths 15:33:39 except the enchantress still has 5% 15:33:42 yeah 15:33:55 well you can talk about uniques relative to their peers at the same location or relative to all others 15:34:14 !kill ratio sigmund * c=0.15-a 15:34:22 !killratio sigmund * cv=0.15-a 15:34:23 sigmund wins 23.19% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:34:38 I guess what I'm saying is that the Enchantress is higher than her peers and also higher than all but the most dangerous uniques all game -- and the most dangerous ones are the earliest ones 15:34:56 Not that that's bad, just worth noting 15:35:05 yeah 15:35:13 yeah she's for sure unusually dangerous; of course someone has to be most dangerous 15:35:21 she's unique in that she's almost less dangerous if she has a distortion weapon 15:35:25 indeed 15:35:42 and everything in the abyss is probably safer than the enchantress 15:35:51 Anyway I'm off. I'll be working on Ru stuff as much as I can this weekend. 15:36:42 hf! 15:36:47 don't forget to enjoy yourself :) 15:39:26 !killratio cerebov * cv=0.15-a 15:39:26 cerebov wins 3.812% of battles against * (cv=0.15-a). 15:40:54 dang 15:40:58 hm 15:41:06 !lm * noun=cerebov cv=0.15-a 15:41:07 328. [2014-07-18 15:15:29] 1010011010 the Centaur Blade (L27 CeHu of The Shining One) killed Cerebov on turn 124559. (Pan) 15:41:09 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:12 decent sample size 15:43:15 !lg * cv=0.15-a ckiller=cerebov 15:43:16 12. Firebatgyro the Phalangite (L27 DsWn of Makhleb), blasted by Cerebov (great blast of fire) in Pandemonium (evilmike_cerebov_lava) on 2014-07-13 23:21:07, with 776865 points after 76928 turns and 5:03:59. 15:43:30 people do silly things vs. cerebov 15:43:39 he's like this raging bull they feel they need to fight 15:43:43 yes 15:43:48 "I can take him" 15:44:00 people try to fight him rather than just taking the rune and running 15:44:00 iirc on my first 15-rune I went down to single-digit hp fighting him 15:44:08 (but I won!!!) 15:44:12 My first 15-rune I tried to Fire Storm him to death 15:44:19 !hs Bloax 15:44:20 930. Bloax the Wrestler (L27 GrMo of Cheibriados), escaped with the Orb and 10 runes on 2013-09-14 23:12:19, with 18264384 points after 36395 turns and 6:01:07. 15:44:30 i had to do a two-pass fight against him here 15:44:33 I realized how dumb that would be and just ninja'd the rune instead 15:44:50 is the manliest god 15:45:00 no wussing out cheaply 15:45:02 (then I learned the ridiculousness that was summon dragon + CBoE spam and slept through the rest of the game 15:45:10 (100 dragons > ______) 15:45:28 '(I'd say rip old summoning but it was dumb and had to go) 15:46:15 !lm * volcano noun=nessos 15:46:15 241. [2014-07-18 09:58:04] Merlin the Brawler (L14 TrBe of Trog) killed Nessos on turn 20108. (Volcano) 15:46:20 !lm * volcano noun=nessos cv=0.15-a 15:46:21 55. [2014-07-18 09:58:04] Merlin the Brawler (L14 TrBe of Trog) killed Nessos on turn 20108. (Volcano) 15:47:17 imo 0.16 should be the version of transmutations 15:47:21 !lm * volcano uniq=nessos 15:47:22 235. [2014-07-18 09:58:04] Merlin the Brawler (L14 TrBe of Trog) killed Nessos on turn 20108. (Volcano) 15:47:23 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:47:26 that also works fwiw 15:47:30 neat 15:47:35 hm 15:47:38 hm 15:47:43 !lm * volcano uniq!=nessos 15:47:44 1146. [2014-07-18 08:33:10] onwiheg the Blocker (L14 FoFi of Okawaru) killed Menkaure on turn 16572. (Volcano) 15:47:44 guess there's literally no difference in typing though 15:47:49 !lm * volcano uniq!=nessos noun=nessos 15:47:49 No milestones for * (volcano uniq!=nessos noun=nessos). 15:47:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:48:02 !kw uniq 15:48:03 Built-in: uniq => verb=uniq 15:48:06 heh 15:48:07 o 15:48:14 hm 15:48:18 <|amethyst> uniq=foo means verb=uniq noun=foo 15:48:21 <|amethyst> IIRC 15:48:25 still curious about that discrepancy of 6 15:48:42 !lm * volcano noun=nessos gives 241 results, !lm * volcano uniq=nessos gives 235 15:48:43 No keyword 'gives' 15:48:44 <|amethyst> !lm * volcano noun=nessos s=verb 15:48:45 241 milestones for * (volcano noun=nessos): 235x uniq, 4x uniq.ban, 2x uniq.pac 15:48:50 ahh 15:48:52 that works 15:49:02 uniq.ban and uniq.pac? 15:49:12 pacified, banished 15:49:13 banish 15:49:16 and - yes 15:49:29 imo !ban gammafunk 15:49:33 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 15:49:33 !kw uniq.ban 15:49:33 Built-in: uniq.ban => verb=uniq.ban 15:51:00 -!- mspang_ is now known as mspang 15:55:02 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:56:25 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/summary_graph_cumulative_bydate.php?width=800 15:56:34 <|amethyst> We've been doing a pretty good job of not letting bugs pile up 15:56:56 <|amethyst> open has been mostly flat (some slight growth) since 2011 15:58:36 <|amethyst> Also, ink smear: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/summary_graph_byreporter.php?width=1000 15:59:22 <|amethyst> (there's still overlap at width=1000, though you can at least read them then 15:59:24 <|amethyst> ) 16:02:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:04:25 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:28 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:05:12 |amethyst: can you filter that to people with 50+ reports? 16:05:18 <|amethyst> no clue 16:05:21 ha 16:05:22 fair enough 16:05:33 <|amethyst> check the mantis documentation maybe? 16:07:08 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:29 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:44 -!- GrFi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:13:22 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:15:42 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:54 I downloaded msygit and I still have the error message "sh.exe ; make: command not found", can someone help me? 16:18:06 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: Bye] 16:18:31 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:19:12 you probably have the wrong version, you need the installer called somethingsomething-netinstall 16:20:38 oh i guess the website has changed a bunch or something 16:21:21 yeah, it's surprisingly confusing to get the right version 16:21:28 https://github.com/msysgit/msysgit/releases 16:21:28 which I need to do, since I just got this new laptop . . . 16:21:37 msysgit-netinstall-... is the one you need 16:22:46 the name of my gits installer is "Git-1.9.4-preview20140611" 16:22:57 -!- jaumoose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23:12 that's the wrong one yeah 16:23:25 that only has git, no build environment with make or anything 16:23:48 thanks 16:24:10 -!- PsyMar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24:28 msysGit-netinstall-1.8.5.2-preview20131230.exe - this one? 16:26:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:27:36 i think there are newer releases but that should work, the one i'm seeing at the top of the page is netinstall-1.9.4 16:31:07 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:32:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:33:12 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:33:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:36:51 "By default, git-push will push *all* your local branches to the corresponding branches on gitorious." this isn't true anymore right? 16:37:27 <|amethyst> not in 2.0 but not everyone has that 16:37:52 <|amethyst> (and 1.9 will warn unless you have set that option) 16:37:58 <|amethyst> maybe 1.8 too 16:38:02 well i guess the guide has a says that it assumes you're using git 1.6, i'll leave it as is 16:38:04 er 16:38:09 has a disclaimer that says 16:38:12 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:39:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:21 -!- M1zzu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:43:15 -!- Sky____ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:45:23 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-2151-gce93697: Update msysgit link in git quickstart guide 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce9369710a90 16:46:00 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:48:54 -!- Test__ has quit [Client Quit] 16:52:53 -!- freezerbunny has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:55:37 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 17:00:22 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 17:03:18 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-2151-gce93697 (34) 17:03:37 -!- Gobbo is now known as GoblinBomb 17:04:05 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 17:10:39 -!- rossi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:03 -!- orionstein is now known as orionstein_away 17:13:04 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13:04 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:13:11 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:19 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 17:16:13 <|amethyst> hm 17:16:27 <|amethyst> I guess s-z's connection froze, or maybe just to IRC 17:18:03 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:30:58 -!- Greyr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:35:37 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35:53 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:36:08 -!- NotKintak is now known as Kintak 17:40:15 gammafunk: I originally implemented monster mass confusion, but it wasn't my idea to give it to the Enchantress. 17:40:44 Funnily enough it's not the Enchantress herself causing problems so much as the air mages, it seems. 17:40:49 (imo we need to rebalance air mages) 17:41:00 !lg * ckiller=depths cv=0.15-a 17:41:01 No games for * (ckiller=depths cv=0.15-a). 17:41:12 !lg * depths ckiller=spriggan_air_mage cv=0.15-a 17:41:12 58. tbh1313 the Shatterer (L22 GrBe of Trog), blasted by a spriggan air mage (the air) (led by the Enchantress) on Depths:1 on 2014-07-16 05:18:13, with 343748 points after 54030 turns and 8:01:32. 17:41:15 !lg * depths s=ckiller cv=0.15-a 17:41:16 709 games for * (depths cv=0.15-a): 58x a spriggan air mage, 39x a stone giant, 37x a deep troll, 33x a lich, 27x a tengu reaver, 25x a frost giant, 24x a fire giant, 20x an ettin, 19x a vampire knight, 19x a titan, 17x a spriggan defender, 16x a deep troll shaman, 15x a spriggan berserker, 12x an iron troll, 12x a deep troll earth mage, 12x an ice dragon, 12x a golden dragon, 10x a player ghost, ... 17:41:28 !lg * depths ikiller=the_enchantress s=ckiller cv=0.15-a 17:41:29 45 games for * (depths ikiller=the_enchantress cv=0.15-a): 25x a spriggan air mage, 12x a spriggan defender, 5x the Enchantress, 2x a spriggan berserker, a spriggan rider 17:41:40 ...several cases in point there. 17:42:42 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:42:52 dang 17:42:59 gammafunk has been cast out by the force of my arguments 17:43:16 IMO we should just remove Haste from air mages for now; that's the real major issue. 17:43:30 (I'm still not sure why they have it to begin with.) 17:45:06 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:45:36 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:42 -!- djetty has quit [Quit: rip] 17:48:01 Air mages have haste?! 17:48:07 Yeah, that seems less than ideal 17:51:02 -!- Lasty1 has left ##crawl-dev 17:52:54 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:54:22 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:54:57 spriggan air mage (11i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 14 | HP: 37-62 | AC/EV: 1/22 | Dam: 16 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible, lev, DMsl | Res: 06magic(130), 10elec++ | XP: 987 | Sp: airstrike (0-38), b.lightning (3d19), control winds, haste | Sz: little | Int: high. 17:54:57 %??spriggan air mage 17:55:10 (oh, we should also remove control winds now that it's properly useless) 17:56:50 MarvinPA: opinions? 17:57:22 (seeing as you're the person with the best design sense who's vaguely around right now) 17:57:33 i don't think i have ever noticed control winds do anything 17:57:46 I've seen it add spam to xv :b 17:57:57 so i would not miss it (and even if it did things i'm not sure that it's a good concept) 17:57:57 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:58:13 I'm more worried about haste right now. 17:59:18 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:28 !send Lasty1 hasted air mages 17:59:28 Sending hasted air mages to Lasty1. 17:59:38 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:17 i honestly haven't noticed them being especially ridiculous but i haven't fought many depths spriggans generally 18:00:34 -!- MrPeeps has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:00:47 I've fought them enough to generally agree with the statistics there that they're the most threatening thing in Depths by a long shot now. 18:01:47 grunt: you sir are a monster 18:01:53 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: poop] 18:02:08 * Grunt roars! 18:02:49 -!- negatendo has quit [Client Quit] 18:11:58 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:14:07 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:55 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:15:55 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:17:17 uh 18:17:22 control winds is extremely strong and important 18:17:36 it means that you can't just squash spriggans with pcloud/fcloud until you get rid of the air mages 18:18:02 you might be thinking of "aided by the winds" which was a different and more stupid thing; I forget if that's still around 18:18:35 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:19 ^ that was @ grunt & marvinpa if pings are necessary 18:20:05 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:21:01 clearly we need air walk back in the game 18:22:53 Well, we should be making any 18:22:55 !glasses 18:22:55 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 18:22:57 airheaded decisions 18:23:15 !send PleasingFungus "aim guided by the winds" 18:23:15 Sending "aim guided by the winds" to PleasingFungus. 18:23:47 -!- fcrawl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:24:41 -!- Patashu_ is now known as Patashu 18:33:12 oh right that 18:33:27 oh. I was thinking about a medium-term project 18:34:13 I want verbose status effect descriptions visible in-game - both for the player and for examined monsters 18:34:56 if we're going to keep adding more status effects - and that does seem to be the direction of design - then we really do need to have some way for people to figure out what stuff like "flash-frozen" actually means 18:35:07 (literally no one knows what flash-frozen means, without being spoilered) 18:35:52 spriggan air mage (11i) | Speed: 16 | HD: 14 | Health: 33-54 | AC/EV: 1/25 | Damage: 16 | Flags: spellcaster, see invisible, fly, DMsl | Res: 06magic(130), 10elec++ | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 1466 | Sp: airstrike (0-38), b.lightning (3d19), swiftness, shock (d16), haste. 18:35:52 %0.9?spriggan air mage 18:37:09 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Quit: Specialization is for Insects] 18:38:11 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:19 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:43 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:12 well there was also the plan to discuss whether that direction of design is a good direction 18:41:38 but yes better documentation on that would be good anyway 18:42:21 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:08 we have been removing some of the goofier statuses - like whatever was up with bog bodies 18:43:19 I... never actually knew what was going on with bog bodies and rotting 18:43:30 well that was just the normal rot status 18:43:55 It was a fairly 18:43:57 !glasses 18:43:57 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 18:43:58 being applied randomly 18:43:58 rotten design 18:44:04 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:45:55 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:24 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:53:19 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:53:44 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:53:51 -!- ldierk has quit [Changing host] 18:53:51 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:54:19 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:02 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:56:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:55 -!- DarkEternal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:07 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 19:00:49 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:01:01 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 19:03:01 -!- Greyr has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:10:54 -!- Evablue has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:54 -!- Evablue_ is now known as Evablue 19:14:09 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:15:10 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:40 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:18:05 -!- flowsnake has quit [Client Quit] 19:19:28 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:34 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:24:08 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:25:04 !send Griunt a bug body 19:25:04 Sending a bug body to Griunt. 19:25:23 ... 19:25:24 !send geekosaur a tyop 19:25:25 Sending a tyop to geekosaur. 19:25:32 yeh 19:27:29 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:28:11 i just said it in ##crawl, but is there any reason for wands to have a max # of charges if scrolls can't be destroyed anymore? 19:30:06 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:06 infinite heal wounds sounds unfortunate 19:32:26 more to the point, even without scroll and potion destruction you'd need to stockpile a lot of them 19:33:07 oh, hm, max number as in limit to how much it can be recharged? maybe not 19:35:11 -!- TS__ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:39:58 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:40:15 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:40:51 -!- Nomi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:41:25 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:46:35 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:47:46 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 19:48:55 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:09 -!- TS__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:52 Should it be possible for a level to generate with the only way to progress further in the dungeon being Flight / Tele or a one way trapdoor? 19:50:09 EG: The only downstairs on this level are across impassable lava, bordered by undiggable stone. 19:50:16 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:50:16 I guess if I had Shatter/LRD that'd work too. 19:50:37 <|amethyst> read: which server? 19:50:51 Offline, trunk build that's maybe 3 days outdated. 19:50:52 <|amethyst> read: or offline? 19:50:54 http://i.imgur.com/sBAH7mY.png 19:51:03 have you tried all the downstairs from the previous level? 19:51:03 See minimap, cyan tile is the trapdoor 19:51:06 Yes. 19:51:21 I haven't explored this level entirely but have with the previous floor. 19:51:39 that's a really odd floor... 19:51:51 <|amethyst> read: can you upload a copy of your save somewhere? 19:51:54 Sure :) 19:52:21 Well, I can see what happened just from the screenshot. 19:52:46 The vault with the lava river *is* intended to place a downstair; it's just that there's another minivault on the level that also places a downstair, and it stole that downstair placement. 19:52:54 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53:14 Oh okay, hold off on the file then? 19:53:20 Please upload it anyway. 19:53:26 I want to see exactly which vaults are involved here >_> 19:53:29 Alrighty. 19:55:28 that seems like a problem with the stair placement code 19:55:36 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:41 geekosaur: yeah, i meant as to how much in could be recharged 19:56:22 <|amethyst> nicolae-: well, something has to be removed/hatched when there are over 4 stairs in the same direction 19:56:40 <|amethyst> nicolae-: the problem is there is no way for vaults to specify the priority of those stairs 19:56:58 Save file: https://mega.co.nz/#!wsczXayQ!z1ZylouNJXM6E2S88GgszDnT4Mr66MNKNrG3EFfgJo8 19:57:07 can you veto vaults that place stairs if there's too many 19:57:18 hmmm 19:57:19 <|amethyst> though if the one with lava is a primary vault that would be fixable I guess 19:58:02 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:58:32 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 19:58:37 <|amethyst> nicolae-: Hm, I think then you'd never get minivaults with stairs because the layout will have placed enough already? 19:59:14 <|amethyst> I cannot manage to download that 19:59:15 hmm! a conundrum. 19:59:29 <|amethyst> it says "starting" in a cloud 19:59:55 Hum. 19:59:59 You have noscript blocking it? 20:00:10 Or don't have flash? 20:00:20 I can try another site anyhow. 20:00:26 <|amethyst> my flash is click-to-play 20:00:40 <|amethyst> and I don't see any flash elements to click :( 20:00:49 Perhaps there's some odd interaction where it's hiding the flash behind other ui elements. 20:00:50 So you can't click it. 20:01:02 Ummm, I think I have a dropbox account somewhere. 20:01:09 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:01:42 <|amethyst> ??mantis 20:01:43 mantis[1/1]: To report bugs or submit new content like vaults, patches or tiles, go to: http://crawl.develz.org/mantis/main_page.php 20:01:46 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17531854/Sharing/Pris.cs 20:01:51 Oh, that would work too. 20:01:55 <|amethyst> thanks 20:01:57 I forgot Crawl had a bug tracker. 20:02:05 <|amethyst> probably filing a report on mantis would be good anyway 20:02:12 Will do :) 20:02:22 -!- allbefore1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:03:24 <|amethyst> oh 20:03:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:03:44 <|amethyst> no, the stairs are all supposed to be on that side 20:03:56 <|amethyst> There's also a downstair 20:04:06 <|amethyst> on the same side 20:04:16 <|amethyst> so you have to skip most of D:10 unless you have flight 20:04:24 <|amethyst> (or find a hatch etc) 20:04:34 <|amethyst> That seems to be intentional 20:04:39 <|amethyst> !vault erik_rubicon_a 20:04:39 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/large_themed.des;hb=HEAD#l492 20:04:41 Did I not notice something? 20:04:56 Ohhh, I see it in the corner there. 20:05:02 I entirely missed that, my mistake. Sorry! 20:05:14 <|amethyst> no problem :) 20:07:35 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:08:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:16 |amethyst, crawl game coach 20:10:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:06 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:08 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:33 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12:28 <|amethyst> find saves/ -name \*.cs | wc -l 20:12:34 <|amethyst> I should clean some of these up 20:15:03 hm 20:15:08 armour swapping is inconsistent 20:15:37 it takes one more turn to swap armour by using T -> W than by using W directly 20:22:01 o 20:22:02 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:22:03 o_O 20:24:11 ideally I'd like to remove the extra turn entirely 20:24:18 there's an extra turn added by the delay 20:28:27 -!- Shome has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]] 20:31:34 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140714151536]] 20:32:29 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:32:34 imo remove PleasingFungus instead 20:32:35 <_< 20:32:42 rip 20:34:06 more like UNFUNgus 20:34:13 dang 20:34:27 boom. ruthless. 20:34:32 what have I done? 20:34:53 (I think I set him on this armour delay path) 20:35:10 i think it's what he would have wanted 20:43:14 // Putting on jewellery is as fast as wielding weapons. 20:43:16 um 20:51:01 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:51:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2152-gfd3010e: Make armour swapping take a fixed turn count 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 7+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd3010e7d3e9 20:51:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2153-g46f8a76: Don't instakill the player with antimagic 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=46f8a7640477 20:51:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2154-g9073fdf: Fix an incorrect comment 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9073fdf32277 20:51:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2155-gf44659b: Don't add an extra turn's delay to donning/doffing armour 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f44659b3475c 20:51:32 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-2156-g34da297: Make Volcano actually spawn its top-end enemy set 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=34da29744313 20:51:45 %git 5d615ac 20:51:45 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-1391-g5d615ac: Don't crash on t-r at the map edge (bh) 10(6 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5d615acd57e8 20:52:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:55:07 shouldn't that be a #define or something if it's just always fixed? 20:55:58 probably 20:56:09 I was considering making it 3 turns for aux armour 20:57:17 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:57:29 -!- Poncheis__ is now known as Poncheis 21:00:25 -!- Poncheis_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:00:39 -!- tsohg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:35 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:02:07 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:02:34 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:03:52 hm. I guess this is a buff to the "take off armour, cast dmsl, put on armour" strategy 21:03:54 eh 21:05:37 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13:43 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:42 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:16:01 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 21:16:54 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:17:07 PleasingFungus: imo remove DMsl then 21:17:08 <_< 21:17:16 >_> 21:17:24 <_> 21:18:57 >_< 21:21:59 opinion: replace swamp worms with "drowned dead" - submerge (as swamp worms), amphibious (move on water & land at 100% speed) 21:22:15 I forget if the siren things are already called that 21:22:21 i think they're drowned souls 21:22:27 eh. name is negotiable 21:22:35 <|amethyst> Do swamp worms need to become undead? 21:22:47 swamp worms need to become amphibious 21:22:49 <|amethyst> why not keep the "swamp worm" name? 21:22:53 I like the theme 21:22:58 of undead lurking underwater 21:23:04 isn't that bog bodies? 21:23:06 <|amethyst> I've noticed :) 21:23:11 they don't, though, do they? 21:23:14 bog bodies 21:23:22 <|amethyst> but swamp has a lot of undead already 21:23:35 it's got bog bodies and... vampire mosquitoes? 21:23:46 i guess it would be easier to make swamp worms amphibious and bog bodies submerging 21:23:53 yeah but i think there's also a ton of zombies 21:23:59 <|amethyst> shadow, a few phantoms 21:24:09 there aren't any zombies in swamp, outside of an ending, maybe 21:24:21 maybe 21:24:23 it's been a while 21:24:34 huh, didn't know there were phantoms in swamp 21:24:36 they're rare and pointless 21:24:59 ...wtf, why are there tmons in swamp 2-5 21:25:16 huh 21:25:29 a powerful challenge 21:26:01 they're a harmless amphibious monster so i dont see how theyre any worse in swamp than hydrae or slime creatures or whatever 21:26:11 unknown monster: "tentacle monster" 21:26:11 %??tentacle monster 21:26:12 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 21:26:15 i guess they are more xp than a hydra 21:26:17 tentacled monstrosity (03X) | Spd: 10 | HD: 23 | HP: 104-154 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 22, 17, 13, 903(constrict) | 05demonic, 10doors, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(153), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2969 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 21:26:17 %??tentacled monstrosity 21:26:47 I am too tired to deal with minmaying right now 21:26:49 later 21:26:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0a1/20140717030339]] 21:28:54 -!- MrPeeps has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31:58 tentacled monstrosity used to be SUPER dangerous 21:32:00 is it just me? 21:32:03 in 0.10 they woudl like 21:32:09 murder the fuck out of you with constriction 21:32:16 <|amethyst> %0.10??tentacled monstrosity 21:32:24 and after constriction got nerfed they didn't get rebalanced 21:32:27 tentacled monstrosity (03X) | Spd: 9 | HD: 25 | HP: 109-164 | AC/EV: 5/5 | Dam: 22, 17, 13, 3003(constrict) | 05demonic, 10doors, amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(166), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 2138 | Sz: Giant | Int: normal. 21:32:27 <|amethyst> %0.10?tentacled monstrosity 21:32:28 same stats except now they're not scary 21:32:34 oh wow 21:32:37 30(constrict) down to 9(constrict) 21:32:38 lol 21:32:52 and constrict used to deal a huge, raising DoT 21:32:55 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 21:33:00 I don't think it even does damage anymore? 21:33:05 <|amethyst> it does 21:33:17 <|amethyst> starting at the damage number 21:33:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:04 <|amethyst> it increases more now 21:34:15 ok, here's my really bullshit analysis 21:34:16 !lg * killer=tentacled_monstrosity cv=0.10 21:34:17 188. rEXpert the Eclecticist (L21 HuWz of Vehumet), slain by a tentacled monstrosity in the Abyss on 2013-06-01 03:22:38, with 282683 points after 76646 turns and 14:09:11. 21:34:18 118 21:34:19 !lg * killer=tentacled_monstrosity cv=0.14 21:34:20 19. NTRAFF the Destroyer (L19 HECj of Sif Muna), mangled by a tentacled monstrosity (kmap: st_star) on Vaults:2 on 2014-06-24 07:41:36, with 279057 points after 64304 turns and 7:23:36. 21:34:21 19 21:34:23 the're harmless now 21:34:28 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:35:36 <|amethyst> %git da036df 21:35:36 07galehar02 * 0.11-a0-2619-gda036df: Get base constriction damage from the attack damage instead of HD. 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 4 files, 24+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=da036df9021e 21:35:49 <|amethyst> Pretty much all constrictors were nerfed there 21:35:59 <|amethyst> by removing the additional damage from the first hit 21:36:05 thanks 21:36:10 I might make a topic in GDD about buffing constrictors 21:36:17 (when tavern loads again) 21:37:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2157-g047404e: Simplify and avoid a dead assignment (#8419) 10(33 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=047404efb3ec 21:38:08 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:16 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 21:40:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2158-gf27e6ab: Avoid another dead assignment (#8419) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f27e6ab4a144 21:46:37 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 21:49:30 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:49:35 -!- Poncheis__ is now known as Poncheis 21:53:06 |amethyst: imo assign the deaths to players 21:53:07 -!- Poncheis_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:55:56 Attempting to autoexplore when the level is already explored causes time to pass? 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8805 by Whales 21:57:30 -!- sound is now known as Guest90969 21:59:40 -!- Tenda has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:07:34 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]] 22:08:52 -!- __miek has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:11:24 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:16 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:30 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2159-g3000a8c: Clear Engulf status when forcibly separated (#7437) 10(3 minutes ago, 6 files, 38+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3000a8c17b79 22:16:47 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:20:39 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:24:37 -!- Guest90969 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:27:05 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:28:04 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:28:13 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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Use !messages to read them. 23:37:27 <|amethyst> Temporary terrain change markers (including door seals) should probably save the colour and tile information 23:37:38 bh: ? 23:37:52 http://wod.wowhead.com/item=116138 23:37:53 <|amethyst> (doesn't matter for doors until:) 23:38:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2162-g3ac6826: Allow recolouring doors in vaults (#8466) 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3ac68266cf00 23:39:10 !tell dpeg How would you envision different-abyss-level-banishment working? how hard you get whacked with banishment? how deep you are in the dungeon? 23:39:10 bh: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 23:39:19 !tell dpeg Yeah, adding more downstairs to the abyss is easy 23:39:20 bh: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 23:40:08 bh: sounds like dpeg is 23:40:09 !glasses 23:40:10 ( •_•)    ( •_•)>⌐■-■    (⌐■_■) 23:40:11 feeling down 23:40:12 ??? 23:40:18 !abyss grunt 23:40:18 bh casts a spell. grunt is devoured by a tear in reality! 23:41:02 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:41:52 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:42:26 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:42:42 https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/490272568130035712 23:45:01 hm 23:45:10 I wonder if this means we'll get an influx of new players soon?? 23:45:17 (i.e. more so than usual) 23:46:00 as long as Blizzard doesn't send us a cease and desist and demand we stop using Nemelex. 23:46:09 Har. 23:46:45 Valve I wouldn't be worried about. Does Blizzard have a history of being not dumb? 23:47:14 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:50 would they even be able to play the game? 23:49:18 I'm reasonably sure that that's an audience that's far, far more at ease with micromanaging things. 23:49:26 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:49:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:50:16 Perhaps I'm a grouch, but I haven't liked a Blizzard game since Warcraft (DotA doesn't count) 23:51:39 There was a time when I was reasonably good at Starcraft, before it became well-known overseas <_< 23:51:59 (actually I first got Starcraft as a birthday present back in 1997!) 23:52:27 Myth was a much stronger game than Starcraft 23:53:53 I barely even remember Myth; I don't think I ever really played it. 23:54:25 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56:40 <|amethyst> Grunt: can you think of any reason not to mark gourmand useless for Gozagites? 23:57:23 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:57:41 |amethyst: hm 23:58:01 |amethyst: not especially 23:59:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-2163-g4fb28e2: Mark gourmand useless for Gozag worshippers (#8801). 10(20 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4fb28e2dc244 23:59:43 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]