00:00:06 it is kind of weird that allied orcs they don't pick up their own ammo, but having the ammo disappear would be weird as well 00:00:56 is it any weirder than them not picking up other ammo, or their comrades' weapons or armour? 00:00:58 maybe a little. 00:02:13 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:02:26 yeah it's a little weird since it's god-gifted ammo essentially but weird is pretty subjective when it comes to this kind of thing I guess 00:03:05 orcs are just terribly lazy 00:03:07 thematic 00:03:08 yeah right now I'm just trying to get the balance somewhere reasonable. 00:03:19 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:03:25 got my orc jesus to the gates of shoals and wanted to have ammo gifting working before I went in 00:03:51 since that seems like a pretty good place to test it out. 00:03:53 that is the proper development methodology 00:04:11 haha 00:04:47 Of course! We all at least fix bugs because they impact our games in progress <_< 00:05:15 %git :/Horrible 00:05:15 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1496-g78b8498: Reduce the int drain from Summon Horrible Things 10(11 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=78b84988da50 00:05:26 You are a horrible, horrible dev 00:05:27 >_> 00:05:46 !lg HEIE place=Pan 00:05:47 No games for HEIE (place=Pan). 00:05:52 !lg . HEIE place=Pan 00:05:53 2. gammafunk the Demonologist (L18 HEIE of Sif Muna), blasted by Reteotys the pandemonium lord (Olgreb's Toxic Radiance) (kmap: evilmike_mini_pan_doors) in Pandemonium on 2014-06-14 05:29:16, with 269947 points after 28112 turns and 6:11:09. 00:05:59 !learn add gammafunk You are a horrible, horrible dev 00:06:00 gammafunk[7/7]: You are a horrible, horrible dev 00:06:01 !lg . HEIE place=Pan x=end 00:06:02 2. [end=2014-06-14 05:29:16 [20140514052916S]] gammafunk the Demonologist (L18 HEIE of Sif Muna), blasted by Reteotys the pandemonium lord (Olgreb's Toxic Radiance) (kmap: evilmike_mini_pan_doors) in Pandemonium on 2014-06-14 05:29:16, with 269947 points after 28112 turns and 6:11:09. 00:06:08 (lack of context ftw) 00:06:35 mm. considering tweaking mons_aligned() to always return false if one of the monsters is frenzied 00:06:39 but I have no idea if that'd break things 00:06:53 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1702-g9691bb5 (34) 00:07:26 hrm, does frenzy actually change monter alignment, or does the enchant just handle the behaviour 00:07:37 the charm enchantment works that way iirc 00:07:44 Frenzied monsters are considered to be ENCH_NEUTRAL iirc. 00:07:44 the latter 00:07:52 oh 00:07:59 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:14 ATT_NEUTRAL? 00:08:18 (This predates anything I ever did with frenzy; in fact it, along with berserking, was all it did) 00:08:21 er, yeah 00:08:23 doh 00:08:37 yeah, the ATT is what I'm concerned about 00:11:24 the concern that roarke brought up is that frenzied monsters wouldn't target each-other; they'd attack each-other by moving into each-other, but if they were all frenzied, they'd all move towards you 00:13:18 mm. they seem to do this with or without the change 00:13:23 even if they haven't seen or noticed you 00:13:25 which is... interesting 00:13:48 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:14:40 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:14:46 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:15:26 yeah you'd have to look into mon-behv.cc and possibly mon-movetarget.cc 00:15:36 those files are lots of fun 00:18:02 I poked around in the former 00:18:11 didn't see anything obvious 00:18:15 gonna move on for now 00:19:46 monster AI: probably the single hardest portion of code to clean up in crawl 00:22:52 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:22:55 monster.cc: In member function ‘item_def* monster::melee_weapon() const’: 00:22:58 monster.cc:550:15: warning: declaration of ‘primary_weapon’ shadows a member of 'this' [-Wshadow] item_def* primary_weapon = mslot_item(MSLOT_WEAPON); 00:23:06 PleasingFungus: ^^ from you? 00:23:12 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23:46 oops 00:24:02 I knew I should've been suspicious when that got autocompleted 00:24:17 Clang didn't warn you? 00:24:22 nop 00:24:24 weird 00:24:34 maybe we have bad clang flags or something 00:24:35 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:39 I have a theory about the frenzy thing. 00:24:53 Let's see if it's accurate. 00:25:29 hm, apparently not 00:25:50 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1703-g8b1026b: Fix a shadowed variable name 10(36 seconds ago, 1 file, 9+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b1026bc74f0 00:26:08 What was it? 00:26:10 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26:32 I wondered if the foe wasn't getting reset correctly on frenzying, but making that happen doesn't fix anything. 00:27:01 what if you do that *and* the mons_aligned() change? 00:27:27 http://pastebin.com/x8cevwii this one 00:28:29 I don't think aligned checks have anything to do with this issue. 00:28:47 o 00:28:55 ok 00:35:59 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1704-gd0042cd: Some cleanups to mapstat code 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 67+ 73-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d0042cdcca6d 00:37:56 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:40:54 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:41:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:41:52 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:42:25 -!- truemonolith has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:42:37 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 00:42:59 -!- Nivim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:34 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 00:47:02 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Client Quit] 00:48:19 -!- Nivim has left ##crawl-dev 00:48:19 -!- Nivim has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 00:48:55 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:06 -!- Nivim has left ##crawl-dev 00:50:07 -!- somebody has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:52:29 Sphara (L20 KoHe) ASSERT(in_bounds(p)) in 'items.cc' at line 3792 failed. (p = (0,0)) (Vaults:1) 00:52:37 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:53:49 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:54:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 33.0a1/20140620030201]] 00:57:18 -!- Euph0ria is now known as euph0ria 00:59:20 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:52 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:51 -!- somebody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:09 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 01:15:22 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:16:25 -!- blueblack has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:18:31 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:31 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 01:18:31 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 01:19:41 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:21:10 i think evokers might recharge too quickly 01:21:18 this guy is carrying about 20 of them 01:21:26 emptied all of them into antaeus 01:21:30 ran through gehenna 01:21:36 and they're alll full again 01:22:56 (also he was having lots of trouble with antaeus and the vokers just killed him with no effort) 01:29:13 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:34:01 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:34:14 Evokers are too slow at low level and too fast at high level. It really should scale with your total XP. 01:34:44 If you only have 4 or less you can practically use them in every battle of any consequence in extended. 01:35:17 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:37:56 -!- ChangeAj has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:41:51 -!- Staplegun has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:42:59 -!- oink has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:56:38 -!- SamB__ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:38 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:10:40 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:15:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:18:05 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1704-gd0042cd (34) 02:19:19 -!- Werehuman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:23:03 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:23:54 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:24:03 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:29:05 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:35:00 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:36:58 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:17 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:13 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:45:44 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Quit: Finnish forwards learn from an early age that the only way to score is to get really lucky, so why bother training] 02:51:26 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:31 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:58:40 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 03:11:07 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:15:07 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:18:55 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:27:52 -!- mopl_ has quit [] 03:28:28 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:28:50 -!- euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:28:50 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:41 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1682-gf41b478: Correctly record mimics in objstat 10(4 hours ago, 2 files, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f41b4787f706 03:32:41 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1683-g7cdac8a: Clean up function and variable names for objstat 10(2 hours ago, 5 files, 406+ 408-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7cdac8a5c4c1 03:32:41 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1684-gbfcf11f: Properly handle map build failures in objstat 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 13+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bfcf11f07bc7 03:32:41 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1714-ge245ff9: Merge branch 'master' into objstat 10(43 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e245ff976287 03:34:21 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:36:42 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:44:11 -!- gal_bolle has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:03 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:48:17 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 03:49:33 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:01 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:17:43 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:36 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:22:36 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:24:09 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:45 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:31:43 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:32:20 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:34:27 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:17 -!- gal_bolle has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:43:16 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 04:49:56 chofbri (L19 GrMo) (Snake:5) 04:50:49 -!- somebody has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:51:09 -!- MIC132 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:25 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:56:59 What's up with develz? It appears to be down.. 05:04:03 ??is cdo down 05:04:03 is cdo down[1/1]: CDO has a mirrored disk failure; The webserver is shut down until it's fixed. 05:08:23 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:19 That's convenient. Thoughe the whole website is down.. 05:09:39 yes 05:09:42 the whole website is on that server 05:12:19 Heh. Ok. 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Use !messages to read it. 08:34:19 yup 08:34:20 !messages 08:34:21 (1/1) |amethyst said (17h 28m 45s ago): not sure about this week; I'm kind of busy with non-Crawl stuff so maybe see if someone else can 08:34:34 ghost moth simulacrum (12Z) | Spd: 10 | HD: 13 | HP: 23-55 | AC/EV: 6/5 | Dam: 1412(cold:13-38), 1412(cold:13-38), 1012(cold:13-38) | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(17), 12cold+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 04fire, 08holy++ | XP: 339 | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 08:34:34 %??ghost moth simulacrum 08:35:04 A whole branch of non-skeletonizable monsters. Probably pretty strong. 08:35:24 also kraken simulacra are infinite now too 08:36:37 i guess the solution is to make turn_corpse_into_skeleton return false then, and just destroy the item in that case 08:38:13 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:38:21 or at least take an optional flag to do that 08:38:49 It would suck a little if animate skeleton just obliterated non-skeletal corpses 08:42:40 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:42:58 right now animate skeleton does nothing to it, simulacrum is the only thing currently affected 08:43:06 since skelly just ignores no skeleton corpses 08:44:28 Oh, ah 08:44:33 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45:13 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:45:18 Phill (L7 KoHu) (D:6) 08:47:55 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:49:32 ZZZZZZZZ 20 kraken simulacra 08:51:48 hahaha 08:51:59 Now shout until Ilsiuw comes into view? :D 08:52:13 Do undead kraken get undead tentacles? 08:52:16 they obliterated polyphemus 08:52:20 yup, they do 08:52:33 that's why it's probably the best exploit of the bug, emp scorps would be otherwise 08:52:40 yup 08:52:42 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:53:33 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:01:15 -!- umrain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:04:33 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04:45 -!- DiazepaN has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:05:06 %git :/[bB]utterfly.*[cC]orpse 09:05:12 Could not find commit :/[bB]utterfly.*[cC]orpse (git returned 128) 09:08:24 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:08:34 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:39 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 09:10:11 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:10:57 !tell gammafunk thanks for your bug, it helped me kill mara 09:10:57 wheals: OK, I'll let gammafunk know. 09:12:29 PURPLE TIME 09:12:33 doh 09:13:48 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This 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bat zombie 09:21:35 my point is more that M_NO_SKELETON does things other than those directly related to creating monster skeletons (ie things related to item skeletons) 09:21:35 things like fire bats already had Z_NOZOMBIE w/o no_skeleton 09:21:46 i'm pretty sure the only reason these things had it is that they used to have zombies 09:21:50 unknown monster: "fire bat skeleton" 09:21:50 %??fire bat skeleton 09:24:25 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:27:18 |amethyst: apart from a few private, unimportant tables only wp_wpsqt_* or wp_crawl (wordpress) was InnoDB! 09:27:33 |amethyst: apart from a few private, unimportant tables only wp_wpsqt_* _of_ wp_crawl database (wordpress) was InnoDB! 09:27:56 and that's some survey plugin for wordpress - not used much anyways 09:36:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:41:49 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:46:30 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:49:26 -!- Elynae has quit [Client 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##crawl-dev 11:50:33 -!- Kenran has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:52:59 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:44 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:57:00 -!- Beast_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00:20 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:47 is there a technical reason why dump_order += vaults doesn't list subvaults, or is it just to keep it short? 12:06:55 I thought it did list subvaults? 12:06:58 Maybe that changed? 12:07:25 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:32 Tomb:1: uniq_sojobo 12:07:33 Tomb:3: uniq_khufu 12:07:43 oh huh, sojobo was in that game 12:07:48 (never saw him) 12:08:00 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:33 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:37 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:11:00 oh 12:11:13 You don't see subvaults there because the base tomb_* vaults are no_dump, probably. 12:11:30 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 12:11:39 mm, same with vaults_vault i guess> 12:11:44 Yes. 12:12:00 !vault minivault_16 12:12:00 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des;hb=HEAD#l6183 12:12:24 !vault grunt_runaround 12:12:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/d_encompass.des;hb=HEAD#l279 12:13:07 -!- somebody has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:13:31 subvaults on _runaround don't show up either 12:13:33 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 12:14:24 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:14:49 rip 12:18:31 !learn add mantis_is_down_bugs staff melee always does 0 damage 12:18:32 mantis is down bugs[2/2]: staff melee always does 0 damage 12:19:19 minmay: I pointed it out in ##crawl-dev before 12:19:20 (huge damage) 12:19:21 oh i thought my staff just really really sucked 12:19:24 but yeah that is a bug 12:19:36 and i even cleared lair with it, lol 12:19:37 Increased Staves to skill level 27.0. 12:19:37 AvHitDam | MaxDam | Accuracy | AvDam | AvTime | AvSpeed | AvEffDam 12:19:37 Attacking: 0.0 | 0 | 77% | 0.0 | 60 | 1.67 | 0.0 12:19:49 ...yeah that is a problem 12:19:51 yeah 12:20:19 probably something checks base_type == OBJ_WEAPONS instead of is_weapon() 12:20:39 nice 12:21:31 i wonder if something somewhere totally breaks with unrand weapons since it assumes their brand is their item_def::special 12:21:36 probably would have noticed by now though 12:22:21 mm 12:24:36 -!- Hisar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:24:52 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a14366856d121f8d19b641c6d4a2c88a51c7a226;hp=840db46ab7b41a01ce5a8f1a73e0480f3318304f did staves/rods return true for is_melee_weapon(someRodOrStaff) before this commit? 12:25:15 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:25:58 i think so 12:26:17 <|amethyst> is_melee_weapon still should 12:26:24 <|amethyst> return is_weapon(weapon) && !is_range_weapon(weapon) 12:26:56 <|amethyst> and is_weapon is return item.base_type == OBJ_WEAPONS || item.base_type == OBJ_STAVES || item.base_type == OBJ_RODS 12:28:04 <|amethyst> oh 12:28:08 <|amethyst> melee_attack::using_weapon 12:28:16 <|amethyst> includes rods but not staves 12:28:27 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:41 so this bug has been around since ranged_attack merge? 12:28:49 why aren't staves OBJ_WEAPONS anyway >_> 12:30:32 <|amethyst> Grunt: was it intentional that melee_attack::using_weapon doesn't just call is_melee_weapon ? it excludes staves currently 12:32:02 also, does this mean that slaying doesn't help them??? 12:32:20 <|amethyst> Grunt: I see there was the one check in the old calc_damage that excluded staves, and it looks like this was copied from that 12:33:24 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:33:52 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:38 oops :v 12:34:41 probably 12:35:35 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:38:11 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:38:11 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:39:27 btw are boots of the assassin supposed to give you the effect of antennae? 12:39:49 okay apparently they are 12:44:15 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:44:47 -!- lkid has quit [Client Quit] 12:45:14 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:46:05 yes 12:52:36 -!- Rockygargoyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:54:11 -!- sudarshans_ has quit [Client Quit] 12:55:02 -!- Stendarr|2 is now known as Stendarr 12:57:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:36 -!- SamB__ is now known as SamB 13:03:07 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:01 -!- sudarshans has quit [Quit: sudarshans] 13:07:41 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08:46 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:37 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:14:04 any thoughts on this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/darkdepths.png 13:14:17 (giving dpeths crypt's heavy shadows) 13:15:26 not sure 13:15:28 how's it look now? 13:15:46 sec 13:16:03 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:37 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:16:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:17:14 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/normaldepths.png 13:18:09 oh, I see, along the walls. 13:18:12 I was looking at the out-of-LOS shadow. 13:18:15 oh 13:18:23 yeah, the wall shadows is what i mean 13:19:01 crypt has the dark ones but nowhere else does atm 13:19:02 the sharp line at the top of the wall isn't ideal 13:19:06 yeah 13:19:20 that'd be cool to fix but i'm not sure how 13:19:28 yeah, you'd need some context-awareness 13:19:37 the logic that places these things makes my head hurt 13:21:32 Ontoclasm: If anything it would be cool if it was also on a bit of the wall 13:22:21 Bloax: hm, no idea how i'd do that 13:22:45 ...i wonder if i can co-opt the shadow code to do shoals coastlines 13:22:52 since they're in the right layer somehow 13:23:30 I like the extra-shadowy depths. 13:25:36 ...what the heck 13:25:38 -!- sudarshans has quit [Quit: sudarshans] 13:26:14 pics or it didn't wtf 13:26:44 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:28:30 okay, somebody better at this than me needs to fix _pack_shoal_waves 13:28:37 it is a mess and doesn't work properly 13:28:47 and i don't know why 13:29:25 if you link me to the code, I'll do the best I can 13:29:27 and by that 13:29:29 I mean I'll tweet funny bits of it 13:29:34 xD 13:29:44 lessee: 13:29:54 !code pack_shoal_waves 13:29:58 maybe? 13:30:06 nope :/ 13:30:11 tilecell.cc line 146 13:31:11 the main things wrong with it are: 13:31:20 -!- jbenedetto has quit [Quit: Changing server] 13:31:34 a) it adds coastlines around every cell of shallow water that has ink 13:31:47 !source pack_shoal_waves 13:31:47 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tilecell.cc;hb=HEAD#l146 13:31:52 and b) it doesn't add coastlines under features like shops and traps 13:32:12 (i once altered it to draw coastlines on said tiles, but they went -over- the feature) 13:32:20 nice 13:32:26 wall shadows somehow manage to draw under features properly 13:32:32 so ??? 13:32:53 !source pack_wall_shadows 13:32:54 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/tilecell.cc;hb=HEAD#l442 13:32:58 that's where that happens 13:33:48 ...hm, that looks wrong too, i'll fix that 13:36:09 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:33 How large is a floor? like {foo}x{bar}? 13:37:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:59 -!- _2_momozelda has quit [Quit: WhatsChat IRC Android APP] 13:40:09 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:37 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:46:48 -!- koil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:47:29 ...this is bizarre 13:47:49 shadows draw under most things, but over grates 13:47:57 haha 13:48:07 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:48:32 -!- Elynae has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:12 -!- Elynae has joined 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13:59:42 -!- fooobarrr has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:01:18 -!- Elynae has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02:43 -!- Elynae has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:06:44 -!- iseveryoneasking has quit [Client Quit] 14:06:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:06:53 -!- agenius has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:17:39 |amethyst, did you read what I wrote earlier? 14:18:30 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:38 <|amethyst> Napkin: just did... that sounds great! 14:19:45 then i went a bit haxy and gave the new server the ibdata and logs from the old server 14:19:58 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:05 seems like it's really only used for innodb tables 14:20:37 -!- alefury has quit [*.net *.split] 14:20:46 because all myisam table dumps were exactly the same according to diff 14:21:23 easier than dropping the innodb tables and recreating them manually ;) 14:23:45 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:01 now.. once i manage to feed the mysql 5.5 dumps to the mysql 5.1 on the old server, i will switch dns back 14:25:19 everything else was rsynced back to the old server already 14:26:45 <|amethyst> Napkin: yeah, ibdata1 is only innodb. As much as I complain about defaulting to myisam, I guess there are some advantages :) 14:27:56 at least in this case i'm glad most was still myisam :) 14:28:24 <|amethyst> Napkin: did you get a chance to talk to greensnark about hosting the ttyrecs? 14:28:24 <|amethyst> !seen greensnark 14:28:25 I last saw greensnark at Sun Jun 22 13:18:41 2014 UTC (3d 6h 9m 9s ago) saying '!lm csdc wk5 br.end s=name,sc pfmt:"${.} $child"' on ##crawl-sequell. 14:28:39 no need, they are gone already 14:29:11 they've been like a stone bound to a leg for years 14:29:17 <|amethyst> heh 14:29:30 considering how long i've been carrying them around already 14:30:00 didn't want to spend forever to move them around 14:30:25 that many (mostly tiny files) just take ages to copy - no matter where to 14:30:46 |amethyst: I got your message about being busy these days. You mentioned that someone else might be able to help -- who else is able to update the experimental branch on CSZO? 14:30:54 <|amethyst> Lasty: any dev 14:31:05 <|amethyst> ??rebuild 14:31:05 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 14:31:13 <|amethyst> it's listed as a version there 14:31:19 Oh, sweet 14:31:29 Thanks! 14:31:54 <|amethyst> Napkin: what about morgues? 14:32:15 all safe 14:32:30 <|amethyst> yay 14:32:58 -!- CKyle__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:09 in the end, I got out of this mess very lucky 14:33:23 <|amethyst> sounds like it 14:33:29 !send Napkin luck 14:33:29 Sending luck to Napkin. 14:33:56 but imagine my face when i realized i can't rebuild the mirror because of reading errors on the second disk.. 14:33:59 gee 14:35:02 i was like "WTF!".. called a friend and he said "WTF!".. called Hetzner (the hoster) and they said "WTF!" as well ;) 14:35:13 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:36:28 <|amethyst> I once had a disk fail, but it was backed up with software the previous admin had set up (Bacula I think). Then I found that the metadata for the backup was missing 14:36:39 arg 14:36:40 <|amethyst> turns out it had been going to the very same disk :/ 14:36:57 bad plan 14:37:00 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 14:37:23 and note to self: next time install the backup cronjob _before_ you migrate anything elsewhere 14:37:25 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:26 <|amethyst> so I had all the blocks, but no way to associate them with files 14:37:45 <|amethyst> we eventually just gave up on trying to restore it 14:37:46 how frustrating 14:39:04 -!- ckyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:13 i remember a very hot summer, when 3 of 4 disks in my desktop died... i was devastated! since then I have mirrors and backup.. erm, most of the time backup 14:39:25 -!- CKyle__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:39:42 Napkin: is this in relation to the server that hosts Mantis/Tavern being down? 14:39:52 and an ugly case - but an ugly case with 12cm fans in front of the disks! 14:40:17 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-1709-g4192df1: Improve wall shadow behavior 10(54 minutes ago, 12 files, 33+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4192df1434bd 14:40:18 yes, lasty 14:40:18 :( 14:40:21 <|amethyst> Lasty: yes, Napkin's the admin 14:40:25 <|amethyst> Lasty: good news though 14:40:36 !send ontoclasm improvements 14:40:37 -!- Keanan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:40:37 Sending improvements to ontoclasm. 14:40:42 <|amethyst> Lasty: it sounds like all the Mantis and Tavern data survived 14:40:45 the system should be back online tomorrow, then it'll take a bit for the DNS changes to be distributed 14:40:49 Woo! 14:40:53 * ontoclasm feels a bit more experienced. 14:40:55 That's great news 14:41:20 the shadows look a lot smoother now imo 14:41:37 The last couple days at work have been much longer ones w/o the tavern. We've been having giant issues over here too that pretty much hosed our dev environment 14:42:01 SA has been down too 14:42:08 so no fun stuff to read on the interweb 14:42:17 It's settled then: life is awful. 14:42:28 (well, *something* is awful) 14:43:27 oh, most DNS entries have a TTL of 15m, some of 24h - so that should be quick, too 14:43:54 I C WUDT 14:46:02 Napkin: I know this is a silly time to ask, but when Mantis is restored and everything is back to normal and also you feel like it, would you mind giving me the ability to delete attachments to the tickets I make in Mantis? Some mantis tickets tracking patches I put in get unwieldy after too many versions stack up . . . 14:46:46 Lasty: he's not the only person that can do that :) 14:47:11 sure, just remind one of us once it's up again ;) 14:47:11 Grunt: Awright, can you do it? :p :D 14:47:19 <|amethyst> Whenever people mention SomethingAwful, I always think first of Something*Positive before I remember that SA exists 14:47:19 I can! 14:47:32 thanks! 14:47:34 <|amethyst> Not right now of course! 14:47:37 of course! 14:48:01 i could ;-P 14:48:08 And also totally unimportant by comparison with the other stuff going on w/ Mantis 14:50:23 -!- ChangeAj has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:11 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:52:39 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:57:12 -!- Kenran_ has quit [Quit: Quitting] 15:00:19 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:04:53 ontoclasm: wall shadows draw on top of grates because the grate tile is in dc-wall, whereas stairs are in dc-feat; which means that grates are drawn in the wall layer, which also contains the shadows and stairs in the feat layer, which is always on top of that 15:05:31 webtiles doesn't do that whole layer stuff and just draws tiles on top of each other, so I'm actually not sure at the moment how it will look there 15:06:41 also, I have no idea what other repercussions moving grates to dc-feat would have 15:08:17 hm 15:08:32 (I'd really want to rewrite the whole tile picking and drawing code to get rid of all this complexity, but there's so much other stuff to do) 15:08:32 well, i "fixed" it by just not drawing shadows in grate tiles at all 15:09:09 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:09:15 the grate thing isn't a problem, really, it's shoals features that really annoy me 15:10:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:10:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:18 i guess it would be painfully hackish, but perhaps shoals coastlines could be in dc-wall 15:10:30 since the wall layer is where they need to be drawn 15:10:40 as counter-intuitive as that is 15:13:05 hm, or maybe even floor? that would be the most logical place, I think 15:13:13 yeah 15:13:38 I assume they are added after the base floor tile, so they should still be on top of that 15:13:50 yeah, they gte added as an overlay 15:15:23 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:21:25 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:21 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:49 -!- Rotatell has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:24:04 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:18 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:21 -!- DayBay has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:25:30 -!- DayBay_ is now known as DayBay 15:29:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:12 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:37:24 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:38:15 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:16 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:21 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:43:41 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:31 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:35 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:57:47 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 16:01:41 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:05:00 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:36 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:10:37 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:12:15 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:46 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:57 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:19:31 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:13 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:13 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:24:13 -!- dtsundere has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:13 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:14 -!- dtsundere is now known as dtsund 16:28:07 -!- somebody1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:28:13 -!- puissantveil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:32:15 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:06 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:27 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:41:49 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:44:33 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:48:20 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:48:20 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:56:23 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:56:23 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:57:38 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:38 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 16:57:38 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 16:58:35 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:59:49 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:04:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:04:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:04:29 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:05:43 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:43 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 17:05:44 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 17:05:56 so, if i want to see if something works in webtiles 17:06:07 should i... push it? or what? 17:06:15 it works perfectly in local 17:12:35 screw it, unto the breach 17:12:35 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:13:49 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:49 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 17:13:49 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 17:17:12 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:48 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-1710-g9442d74: Hopefully fix shoals coastlines & ink 10(13 minutes ago, 12 files, 179+ 184-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9442d7426d22 17:20:49 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:20:49 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1709-g4192df1 (34) 17:20:49 -!- mthomson_ is now known as Elynae_ 17:21:25 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:22:29 -!- Zathryth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:22:51 -!- Elynae has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:23:05 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:07 -!- Elynae_ is now known as Elynae 17:23:31 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:57 -!- Elynae has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:19 ontoclasm: it should be fine, but I'll test it 17:25:41 you're using windows, right? then there's really no good way to test webtiles locally for you 17:28:53 yeah, i figured 17:28:53 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:28:53 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:28:53 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:31:48 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:33:16 hrm, I was wrong, they draw on top of features in webtiles. which is obvious, since features are still the bg tile, and webtiles always draws overlays after bg tiles 17:33:16 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:25 !seen sequell 17:36:56 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:52 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:44:59 i dunno how to fix it in webtiles, then 17:44:59 -!- Nomi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:44:59 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:46:19 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:19 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 17:46:19 ontoclasm: just pushed the fix ;) 17:46:20 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 17:46:30 oh, neat 17:46:40 thanks! 17:47:09 it's of course another hack on top of the existing pile of hacks that is the tiles drawing code 17:47:44 tiles code written by yiuf 17:48:28 ..When was the tiles code written? 17:48:48 well, with cdo down, maybe we should just start on a new roguelike 17:49:01 Bloax: 0.4ish iirc 17:49:17 Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup: Reasonable Tiles Code 17:49:25 sounds like a pretty good name to me 17:50:10 03edlothiol02 07* 0.15-a0-1711-g7bd1ff7: Draw Shoals waves under features in Webtiles. 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bd1ff7254c5 17:53:11 -!- Zooty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:54:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:01:14 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:14 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:01:30 -!- vede has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:02:39 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 18:05:06 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:09:16 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:06 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:11:32 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:50 I think Snake might be a little too nasty now. 18:11:57 !dump 18:11:57 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/DrPraetor/DrPraetor.txt 18:12:03 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12:05 Oi, wrong dump. 18:12:06 @dump 18:12:12 ??dump 18:13:42 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:13:48 Oh, no, that's the right one. So this character is barely able to limp out of Snake alive - and is close to a perfectly-equipped tank. Too many rooms with mutiple Anacondas in them, along with mixed other nastier stuff. 18:17:19 -!- Amnesiac has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:19 -!- Amnesiac has left ##crawl-dev 18:17:19 huh, what happened to sequell? 18:17:19 -!- ChangeAj has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:17:19 -!- wya has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:17:19 Changing the snake layout to make the rooms smaller/narrower would probably be enough to bring it down to acceptable lethality without changing the cool mix of monsters. But as it stands, Snake is straightup insane. 18:17:19 mm 18:17:19 it's really not 18:17:19 I maen 18:17:19 I don't want to be rude 18:17:19 but I haven't seen any increase in player deaths in snake, or anything like that 18:17:41 maybe we should bring lamia back. 18:17:53 How long has the current version of trunk been up? Why would you remove Lamia? 18:18:04 ooh, someone's talking to drpraetor for the first time 18:18:06 this should be good 18:18:21 why indeed 18:18:25 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:18:38 it's very difficult to hold a conversation about crawl without sequell available. 18:20:49 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:22:14 Huge numbers of kills? If that's the reason, I think that's silly - you are *supposed* to run away in terror from red-named uniques. But anyway, I'm finding Elf (for example) way tame compared to Snake:3. If Snake:5 no longer has Lamia on it, I don't see how it can be nastier than the Snake:3 I've got. 18:25:23 lamia wasn't removed for being too dangerous 18:25:23 she was removed for being silly and pointless and notably *not* actually being dangerous 18:25:23 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:25:23 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 18:25:23 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:23 she was like if you duct taped boris and jory together 18:25:33 but since theyre covered in tape now, theyre slow 18:25:53 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:25:53 and she also ate corpses because ???????? 18:26:29 Didn't she drop something cool? She ate corpses because she was a Lamia. 18:27:01 she dropped whatever random junk she was wielding plus a barding 18:27:13 of course snake has a new equally silly unique now so whatever 18:27:42 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:27:49 The evil queen from mythology, who eats people? Anyway, if the problem is not Snake being too lethal with the lightning serpents and such, then the problem is Elf being too tame with the summoner-kill rule. 18:27:52 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:28:15 I like the summoner-kill rule, but it means with penetrating bolts, Elf:1 and 2 can be done on autopilot. 18:28:58 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:29:43 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33:26 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:26 -!- jejorda2 has quit [Client Quit] 18:33:26 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:33:44 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:02 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:27 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:37:43 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:28 -!- Keanan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42:03 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:42:16 edlothiol: thanks for the fix 18:42:27 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:43:01 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:43:25 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:02 -!- hw3patch has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:45:12 oh, oops; i put a random tile in one of those commits :/ 18:45:20 well, it'll be a secret 18:49:31 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:31 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:31 -!- anon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:31 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:31 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:49:31 -!- mineral has quit [] 18:49:55 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 18:51:20 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 18:51:37 -!- anon_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:57:33 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:33 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:00:42 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:03 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:01:14 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:36 -!- brainwrinkle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:36 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:54 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 19:06:49 -!- anononon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:06:50 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:04 -!- Werehuman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:07:25 -!- Brannock has quit [Client Quit] 19:07:28 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:13:38 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:13:38 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:14:18 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:37 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:21:41 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:31 -!- Hisar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:24:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:37 -!- Patashu_ is now known as Patashu 19:26:34 hi, when is ranged combat being fixed 19:29:44 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:44 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:31:00 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:00 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 19:31:00 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 19:33:25 -!- Insomniak has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:37:52 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:37:52 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:37:52 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:40:37 Ranged Combat cannot be fixed and is being removed. [kidding] 19:45:54 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:54 continue just kicks you out of the innermost for-loop you're in, right 19:45:54 er 19:45:54 break i mean 19:46:04 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 19:47:45 -!- Beast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:50:25 yes 19:50:37 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:53:57 won't it also break out of while loop? 19:53:57 well, yes, that too, but I assume the point was that it only breaks out of the innermost loop 19:53:57 !vault spiders_nest_wasp_nest 19:53:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des;hb=HEAD#l566 19:53:57 I had this vault generate completely closed off 19:53:57 so the only way to know there were wasps/items inside it was to be spoiled or have monster sensing 19:53:57 this seems pretty bad 19:54:24 ...oh it looks like it's completely closed off every time. wow, wtf 19:54:43 I once broke it open by kiting orb spider orbs. 19:54:45 edlothiol: DrPraetor: thanks 19:54:54 it was pretty silly 20:01:59 minmay: i passwalled into it once without realizing what was in there 20:03:34 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:04:39 <|amethyst> %git 95a6aae 20:04:39 07evilmike02 * 0.11-a0-495-g95a6aae: Do not build wasp nests out of stone arches. 10(2 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=95a6aae24e01 20:05:19 What % of spriggan bakers are secret cannibals? 20:05:41 <|amethyst> DrPraetor: 1/8 of them 20:06:04 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:06:59 <|amethyst> I have to imagine that evilmike didn't intend to make that vault always closed off 20:10:13 <|amethyst> and if it is intended, it should have no_rtele_into on the 1s 20:13:52 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:18:16 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:18:18 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:19:39 -!- Sgeo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:27 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:22:32 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:18 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:18 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:26:18 i just pressed tab and it read a scroll of recharging 20:26:18 nice 20:26:18 !seen |amethyst 20:26:18 I last saw |amethyst at Thu Jun 26 01:07:36 2014 UTC (17m 51s ago) saying 'and if it is intended, it should have no_rtele_into on the 1s' on ##crawl-dev. 20:26:18 PleasingFungus: oh, it seems basically impossible for enchanted dragon armour to appear now 20:26:18 mm 20:26:18 well, positively enchanted 20:26:23 I'm okay with that 20:26:24 tbh 20:26:33 dragon armour spawning is a rare enough thing by itself 20:27:13 mm 20:27:32 might extend that wheals aux armour change, like I was talking about earlier, though 20:28:27 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:30:23 -!- Kazimuth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:34:21 ??food nsa[2 20:34:21 food NSA[2/2]: Nutrition gen stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z70m7enzRDXIOZi4jOwKy2erLP-IaiaT-IQSHFQ_11Q/edit?usp=sharing 20:34:21 huh. twice as many gloves as boots generated per game 20:34:21 that's... kind of weird, actually 20:34:21 *half again as many 20:34:21 mm. 8 boots, 12 gloves, and 145 cloaks generated per game. 20:34:21 I think I will not unsquash cloaks. 20:35:09 alternatively: don't generate a billion cloaks on dracs 20:35:21 that is another valid option 20:35:29 but where will players get their cloaks of preservation?????? 20:35:40 i think i had a commit for that somewhere actually, maybe i should find/push it 20:35:50 to only give classed dracs cloaks 20:35:55 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:02 sounds nice 20:36:34 the drac hierarchy is all about earning those all-important cloaks 20:36:44 dang! 20:37:37 huh 20:37:47 randarts "of the Hall of Blades" can still generate 20:38:01 I wonder if you can still get items "of the Hive". 20:42:24 -!- Farcaster has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:42:24 well, I'll push this for now, and the cloak change can be reverted later, pending MPA's change and investigation of new itemstats results. 20:43:46 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:46:58 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:50:34 %git 17ba3dd85708cb09502cf23c37b78051bdf35db7 20:50:35 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1669-g17ba3dd: Possibly fix 8731 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17ba3dd85708 20:50:35 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:35 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:51:48 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:04 -!- Werehuman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:52:21 " Can I just say how obnoxious it is to have a new god testing branch with no code to guarantee the god will show up in Temple? " 20:55:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1712-g939456a: Unsquash +1 hats 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=939456abc4f2 20:55:48 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1713-g90c77aa: Invert a check 10(8 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=90c77aa1b4ed 20:58:49 is your LoS code much longer than you'd intuitively think it needs to be, or is that just mine? 0_o 20:58:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:49 heh, yeah 20:58:49 gammafunk: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:58:49 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:49 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 20:58:49 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:06 -!- rockygargoyle_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1714-gf1909d2: objstat: Item and monster generation statistics 10(12 days ago, 14 files, 1208+ 57-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1909d296759 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1715-g544f0ae: Write object statistics in one file per branch 10(3 days ago, 4 files, 434+ 471-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=544f0ae2f541 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1716-g5372833: Fix objstats for rods, misc. items, corpseless monsters, and mimics 10(2 days ago, 2 files, 42+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=537283350429 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1717-gd817d06: Add a command-line option for the number of stat gen iterations 10(3 days ago, 1 file, 27+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d817d06195cb 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1718-g0840c16: Clean up function and variable names for objstat 10(20 hours ago, 6 files, 444+ 437-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0840c16e4d63 20:59:47 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1719-g495a017: Properly handle map build failures in objstat 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=495a01740e36 21:02:47 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 21:02:47 .gmap 21:02:47 23. jowce12 the Grappler (L13 TrMo of Cheibriados), mangled by a catoblepas on Lair:5 (gammafunk_lair_enchanted_lake) on 2014-06-24 16:20:34, with 29347 points after 10912 turns and 0:39:17. 21:02:47 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:02:47 !kw gmap 21:02:47 No keyword 'gmap' 21:02:47 hm 21:02:47 function 21:02:47 !function gmap 21:02:47 or cmd 21:02:47 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/exclude.cc;hb=HEAD#l403 21:02:47 heh 21:02:47 haha 21:02:47 !cmd .gmap 21:02:47 Command: .gmap => !lg * (( map=~gammafunk || kmap=~gammafunk )) place!=D place!=Forest 21:02:47 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:02:47 most thigns beginning with . are user-defined functions 21:02:47 !cmd -ls 21:02:47 User Commands: !&splat, !abyss, !abyssratio, !banish, !boot, !branchless, !bug, !calc, !chars, !cheers, !cmdlist, !coffee, !crash, !crashlog, !csdc, !csdcend, !csdcenter, !csdcredo, !csdcstats, !csdcuniq, !deathless, !deathsin, !discord, !embarrassing, !entrances, !file, !firstgameafter, !func, !gamecost, !git, !gkillratio, !gkills, !goodchar, !goodplayer, !greaterplayer, !greatplayer, !greatprogr... 21:02:47 ahaha 21:02:47 (( map=~gammafunk || kmap=~gammafunk )) 21:02:47 oops 21:02:47 !lg * (( map=~pf || kmap=~pf )) 21:02:47 63. redmage the Poker (L3 MfSk), quit the game in the Temple (pf_slimified_temple) on 2014-06-24 07:39:58, with 50 points after 538 turns and 0:06:11. 21:02:47 imo best kill 21:02:47 PleasingFungus: I'd recommend pf_ 21:02:47 o 21:02:47 although I guess a spurious match would be somewhat unlikely, wouldn't it 21:02:47 no it's very likely 21:02:47 oh really? 21:02:47 ....lapfrog 21:02:47 like 90% of those are an old map 21:02:47 (also pf_ works well, just tested) 21:02:47 !lg * (( map=~pf || kmap=~pf )) 1 21:02:47 1/63. Voker57 the Firebug (L3 MuFE), slain by a hound on D:2 (nrook_campfire) on 2010-10-09 19:50:07, with 141 points after 3416 turns and 0:03:26. 21:02:47 ah 21:02:47 -!- Kintak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02:47 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:02:47 the funny thing is that nrook is my apartmentmentmate 21:02:47 also, Cheibriados where is the gammafunk flood 21:02:48 are you saying chei is being a bit 21:02:49 slow 21:02:52 oh there he goes 21:05:55 hrm, only two 21:05:55 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:55 haha, someone died to oka wrath in one of my hell entries 21:05:55 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:05:55 I need to maybe see if I can script making a spreadsheet out of the files 21:05:55 since it's kind of pain to do that manually for like 30 branches 21:05:55 %git 21:05:55 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1719-g495a017: Properly handle map build failures in objstat 10(19 hours ago, 1 file, 12+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=495a01740e36 21:05:55 I crashed Cheibriados 21:05:55 rip 21:05:55 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:55 dang 21:05:55 huh, this torpor snail kill isn't even the new slowing version 21:05:55 it's just -swift 21:05:55 turns out hydras are dangerous 21:06:15 -!- home has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:33 -!- tbuck has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:07:22 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:01 hm 21:08:03 -!- Sizzell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:08:05 ??no_mantis_bugs 21:08:06 I don't have a page labeled no_mantis_bugs in my learndb. 21:08:07 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:08:09 ??mantis_is_down_bugs 21:08:10 mantis is down bugs[1/2]: http://i.imgur.com/tEvKnCO.png 21:08:15 ??mantis_is_down_bugs[2 21:08:15 mantis is down bugs[2/2]: staff melee always does 0 damage 21:08:34 trying to figure out what vault that is 21:08:45 it's a bit like led_sif_pool, but not quite 21:08:52 efrs (L11 SpVM) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:11) 21:09:24 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:09:38 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:09:52 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:58 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:22 ha ha ha found it. 21:14:27 !vault kennysheep_orc_sif_temple 21:14:27 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l6005 21:14:34 gammafunk 21:14:38 please rate your level of surprise 21:14:41 at the author of this problem vault 21:14:42 heh 21:14:49 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:14:49 what was the bug 21:15:01 no no_pool_fixup 21:15:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:15:36 see {mantis_is_down_bugs[1]} 21:15:45 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Client Quit] 21:17:37 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:17:55 ...why is there an orcish temple to *sif muna*, anyway? 21:17:56 -!- maha_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]] 21:18:27 yes, that was my question, but 21:18:29 hrm 21:18:32 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:43 how did pikel get in there 21:22:01 spawned 21:22:01 yeah but that's what I mean, it's no_monster_gen or w/e 21:22:01 uniques don't care 21:22:01 it's the unique vault placement weirdness 21:22:01 yep 21:22:01 it's not no_pool_fixup 21:22:01 well 21:22:01 there's no reason for that to be shallow water anyway 21:22:01 since that'd happen regardless 21:22:01 not regardless of.... 21:22:01 yeah, for aesthetic reasons it should be no_pool_fixup I guess 21:22:01 regardless of no_pool_fixup 21:22:01 as in, pikel could still spawn in an isolated area 21:22:01 well, a reason for it to be shallow water would be to not trap players in there 21:22:01 mm 21:22:01 right, wethout no_rtele_into 21:22:01 yep 21:22:01 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:22:01 it really just shouldn't have the little sealed-off area probably 21:22:01 since there's no good reason for it 21:22:01 eh 21:22:01 fix inbound 21:22:01 but yes it could eg be all deep water with no floor, or all shallow water, or whatever 21:22:01 chei....... 21:22:03 roll a random2 to pick your favourite fix 21:22:12 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1720-g8617044: Fixup a problem vault (Kvaak) 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8617044d01bc 21:25:13 I chose none of those! 21:25:13 I am a special snowflake 21:25:13 -!- Lasty has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:25:13 well you fixed it, and that's what counts 21:25:13 not your terrible, terrible, wrong, and clearly bad taste in cleaning up vaults 21:25:13 :( 21:25:13 rip 21:28:21 !learn del mantis_is_down_bugs[1 21:28:21 Deleted mantis is down bugs[1/2]: http://i.imgur.com/tEvKnCO.png 21:28:21 and you don't even get mantis credit 21:28:21 ha 21:28:21 who cares about *mantis* credit? 21:28:21 git is where it's at, man 21:28:43 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:23 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:16:51 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:51 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 22:16:51 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 22:24:43 Don't clouds still have courage thresholds for monsters to path through them? Just re-use that code with the prism. 22:24:43 clouds aren't solid 22:24:43 prisms are 22:24:43 it's a bug 22:25:11 Yes, it's definitely a bug. But heavily wounded monsters shouldn't walk up to prisms and die, either - so using the summoned monster pathfinding wouldn't be ideal. 22:25:38 nah, they really should 22:25:43 monsters are dumb as fuck 22:25:55 Then please set them to do that for conjured flame as well :) 22:26:14 conjured flame is a very different class of spell 22:26:29 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:26:42 I suppose that the monster does use up your prism when it dies, so it wouldn't be as exploitable. 22:26:43 <|amethyst> the difference is, monsters can attack a prism to make it go off prematurely 22:26:56 <|amethyst> and usually they will 22:27:15 <|amethyst> the question is why the monster is pathing around it instead of attacking it 22:27:40 <|amethyst> they don't do that with plants 22:27:42 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27:56 <|amethyst> at least, I don't think they do, didn't check 22:28:07 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:52 Because it's pathing to you instead, presumably? I could've sworn I'd seen monsters ignore prisms and just attack me - maybe someone tried to add that feature and messed it up? 22:32:45 <|amethyst> well, that's the same as with any summon 22:32:45 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32:45 <|amethyst> but if you summon an imp in a hallway, it doesn't make monsters try to path alternatively 22:32:45 Prisms are stationary, aren't they? 22:32:45 <|amethyst> yes 22:32:45 <|amethyst> that's why I mentioned plants 22:32:45 sorry, i couldn't see your comment 22:32:45 I wasn't online yet 22:32:45 <|amethyst> oh, sorry 22:33:03 What about lightning spires? 22:33:20 Do monsters behave the same way with them? 22:33:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:34:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I'm not seeing the behaviour you saw 22:35:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what was the monster? (and in particular its intelligence) 22:36:19 <|amethyst> okay, I just saw it 22:37:11 <|amethyst> and they do the same thing with plants 22:37:30 it was a player ghost, for the record 22:37:34 not that it matters now 22:40:48 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:40:48 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:42:03 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:03 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 22:42:03 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 22:42:54 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43:04 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:29 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Client Quit] 22:44:42 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:45:01 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:50 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Client Quit] 22:48:54 -!- rockygargoyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:54 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:52:07 -!- koil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:52:33 -!- rockygargoyle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:57:00 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:08:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1721-gcea3e54: Make on-level recall trigger traps 10(85 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cea3e54df0e2 23:08:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1722-g18c1c58: Withhold TSO's grace from nudists 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=18c1c58180d0 23:08:00 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746: Make allies trigger traps when swapping with the player 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ae8f746483fe 23:12:15 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:15 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 23:12:16 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 23:13:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746 (34) 23:14:43 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746 (34) 23:15:11 PleasingFungus: great commit title 23:15:33 ty :) 23:19:07 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 23:19:07 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:10 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746 (34) 23:20:06 -!- somebody has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:20:47 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:12 Hey, I'm soliciting feedback for a tournament scoreboard I've been working on in my spare time. I would love suggestions as to how to make it better, as well as comments on what works! It's here: http://rob.pecknology.net/csdc/ 23:21:31 -!- koil_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22:00 It could probably be modified to work with any type of tournament as most of the data comes from isolated libraries I've written to parse milestone files. 23:31:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:35:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 23:35:12 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 23:35:14 huh. I saw a frost giant, went downstairs, went back upstairs. then the frost giant began fleeing? 23:35:56 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:36:34 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:43:15 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:15 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:43:15 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:15 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:30 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:30 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 23:44:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 23:45:45 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 23:46:49 yeah, that's happened ever since the change to ranged AI i think 23:51:30 -!- Morik has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:54:08 -!- evablue has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:59:25 -!- Werehuman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:59:25 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:59:25 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]