00:00:06 or you could leave it as high-variance 00:00:29 I'd probably just use gold and *, not sure how hard it is to get by the flame cloud generaters. 00:01:04 It seems pretty trivial if you have teleport control somehow. 00:01:15 Although i guess it could place you outside the loot chamber. 00:01:37 teleport control isn't very common, especially on d:9, and is possibly going away. 00:01:51 it's kind of a pretty dangerous vault.... 00:02:16 your eagerness to randomly mess around with things that you yourself say you don't understand is kind of distressing to me 00:03:05 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03:40 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:04:02 PleasingFungus: I was just confirming the | thing because I found it very surprising somebody would use it like that. 00:04:21 ah, so "I'd probably just use gold and *" wasn't a change you were about to make? 00:04:57 At the least not today. 00:05:08 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:06:07 In fact, I should probably be leaving. 00:06:11 soon. 00:06:29 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 00:06:34 ha 00:06:37 godspeed, then! 00:06:48 (What time zone are you? I'm about to go to bed!) 00:06:55 Same. 00:07:05 ah 00:07:31 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:08:16 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1668-g49c5cce (34) 00:12:47 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:13:37 -!- Quashie__ is now known as Quashie 00:14:32 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:46 ??deck of war 00:17:47 deck of war[1/1]: Randomly per-card {deck of destruction}, {deck of enchantments}, {deck of battle}, {deck of summoning}, {deck of transport}, {deck of emergency}. 00:17:50 ??deck of escape 00:17:50 deck of escape[1/2]: Non-oddity cards from here are 50% from the {deck of transport}, 50% from the {deck of emergency}. 00:18:05 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:18:45 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1668-g49c5cce (34) 00:20:50 SchwaWarrior (L18 HEAE) (Shoals:3) 00:21:45 SchwaWarrior (L18 HEAE) (Shoals:3) 00:22:02 SchwaWarrior (L18 HEAE) (Shoals:3) 00:25:54 Ascension (L4 DrMo) (D:1) 00:26:00 I'm pretty sure a "glowing shapeshifter simulacrum" is not something that should be generating 00:27:19 Attica (L13 GrFi) (D:14) 00:30:14 probably. 00:30:23 there are known bugs with NO_ZOMBIE. 00:31:13 hm. I hope i didn't break "going up stairs". 00:32:13 Segfault game crash when I try to go up stairs 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8731 by SchwaWarrior 00:32:15 ironman crawl 00:32:18 mmmmmm 00:32:28 I wish I remembered how to dump saves from servers 00:33:49 i don't think you can? the player has to do it from the options menu 00:33:55 oh 00:33:56 or if you can i don't know how 00:34:10 someone should ask that guy to dump his save, I guess 00:34:35 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:34:56 Attica (L14 GrFi) (D:15) 00:35:42 Attica (L14 GrFi) (D:15) 00:36:18 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 00:36:34 !crashlog attica 00:36:35 3. Attica, XL14 GrFi, T:16279 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Attica/crash-Attica-20140623-053540.txt 00:37:03 looks like the same crash, whatever it is 00:37:51 minmay: What does a shapeshifter look like when it's not in a shape? 00:37:58 I know sometimes they turn into their base form for a turn 00:38:05 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:38:25 oh boy, yep, that's level_place_followers 00:38:27 shit 00:39:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:39:51 ??deck of battle 00:39:52 deck of battle[1/1]: Does not exist as an item. Cards: {elixir card}, {battlelust card}, {metamorphosis card}, {helm card}, {blade card}, {shadow card}, {mercenary card}. 00:40:54 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:38 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:44:11 MarvinPA: how do you dump your own save? Just #? 00:44:25 Ascension (L3 DrMo) (D:1) 00:44:32 from the advanced options menu in dgl, i don't think you can do it in webtiles 00:44:39 Ascension (L3 DrMo) (D:1) 00:44:53 Ascension (L3 DrMo) (D:1) 00:45:05 ah 00:46:22 mm. I have something that might fix it, but I'd really like to have a copy of the save first. 00:52:08 oh 00:52:30 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1669-g17ba3dd: Possibly fix 8731 10(70 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17ba3dd85708 00:52:36 apparently most of the people in the forum that must not be named think Nemelex has been ruined by the changes to the point of uselessness 00:52:39 so congrats 00:52:47 oh 00:52:49 who cares 00:52:55 (about that forum's opinions) 00:52:55 who cares? 00:53:03 do you care 00:53:05 no 00:53:07 ok 00:53:30 he's probably still overpowered, it's just that now you actually have to think with himm 00:53:32 *him 00:55:33 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:56:05 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:59:12 Ascension (L3 DrMo) (D:2) 01:01:43 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:03:14 Attica (L15 GrFi) (Lair:7) 01:03:29 tsetseflies (L16 DrFE) (D:13) 01:04:05 -!- Kalir has quit 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13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8732 by nubinia 01:28:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:32:06 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1670-gcf26eb8 (34) 01:33:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:33:45 enigmoo (L15 VpSk) (Orc:4) 01:35:28 Pitch (L14 HEHu) (Orc:1) 01:48:26 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:49:30 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:49:52 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:50:26 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:44 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:59 -!- Tenda has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:02:15 -!- koil has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:02:55 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:53 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:40 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1671-g6c14c25: Partially revert removal of bone dragons from generation 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c14c25dc57d 02:09:45 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:11:33 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:15:20 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:06 Nevereven (L6 MiHu) (D:3) 02:17:45 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:02 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1671-g6c14c25 (34) 02:18:22 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:49 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:19:17 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:20:05 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:34 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 02:23:53 -!- imantor has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:30:37 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:30:41 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:33:33 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:42:36 !apt Ko 02:42:37 Ko: Fighting: 1, Short: 3!, Long: -2, Axes: -1, Maces: 0, 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DrPraetor, XL16 GrVM, T:35672 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/DrPraetor/crash-DrPraetor-20140623-100534.txt 05:12:10 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (D:13) 05:13:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:16:33 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (D:13) 05:21:27 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:42:09 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:43:38 +SH muts haven't been changed since SH values were reworked, is that intentional? 05:54:44 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (Abyss:1) 05:55:44 it's only the displayed value that changed, so probably 05:56:03 unless their descriptions are wrong now 05:56:14 which they might well be 05:56:33 oh no looks like they were rescaled too 06:03:45 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:05:37 -!- tcjsavannah_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:12:28 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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DrKe, XL15 HuSu, T:33693 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/DrKe/crash-DrKe-20140623-120748.txt 07:10:29 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1664-g9899cd6: Write object statistics in one file per branch 10(7 hours ago, 4 files, 434+ 471-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9899cd65823e 07:10:29 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1675-g134aebb: Merge branch master into objstat 10(19 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=134aebb0712a 07:11:10 need to make a crd post on this probably at this point 07:16:03 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22:12 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:23:11 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (Lair:4) 07:26:12 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:27:04 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Changing host] 07:27:58 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:28:16 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:32:31 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:32:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:36:10 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:21 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (Lair:4) 07:38:23 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (Lair:4) 07:38:25 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (Lair:4) 07:45:13 DrPraetor (L16 GrVM) (Lair:4) 07:48:09 -!- tsohg has quit [Client Quit] 07:48:29 -!- ldierk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:52:39 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:56 oh, I only looked at bone plates 1 which gives +2SH in both trunk and .14 whereas 3 gives +4/+6 07:54:03 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:55:01 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:05:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:10:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:45 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:17:56 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:36 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:20:37 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:21:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:21:33 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:25:40 -!- CKyle has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:27 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:28:00 -!- Alarkh has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:32:14 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:39:47 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45:28 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:52:29 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:03:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04:13 -!- umrain has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:10:38 firemonkey (L15 HOWn) (Depths:1) 09:11:48 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 09:12:12 -!- stanzill has quit [Quit: computerschrauben] 09:14:01 -!- foophykins has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:14:11 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:15:17 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1671-g6c14c25 (34) 09:17:08 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:19:43 -!- jack70 has quit [Client Quit] 09:19:58 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 09:23:03 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:25:45 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:54 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1672-g43d3e28: De-rune a vault. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43d3e2817a60 09:43:39 firemonkey (L16 HOWn) (Depths:2) 09:45:11 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:46:46 firemonkey (L15 HOWn) (Abyss:1) 09:47:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:22 PleasingFungus: i just did lair and saw some torpor snails! 09:48:49 :) 09:48:51 i think that autoexploring into slow is kind of jarring and i was thinking of the idea of making it like zyme sickness 09:49:06 but then you might be able to walk out of los right away, of course 09:49:08 yeah 09:52:08 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 09:55:36 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:01:27 -!- Svitkona` has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:01:43 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:06 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:04:29 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:33 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:41 firemonkey (L15 HOWn) (Abyss:1) 10:12:07 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:12:10 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:13:51 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:30:07 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 10:30:26 !tell MarvinPA Hey, I have an idea for how to move forward with beogh ammo gifts - would I be stepping on your toes if I worked on that? 10:30:27 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 10:31:34 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:42 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:34 oh right, I forgot to force a rebuild after the maybe fix for that crash 10:34:36 oops 10:36:09 PleasingFungus: go for it, i only have a half-finished thing that i probably wasn't going to finish imminently 10:36:09 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:39:14 aight 10:40:55 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:51 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:43:47 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:56 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1673-g324f38d: Let a special case for staff of air float away (minqmay). 10(45 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=324f38de4884 10:44:56 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1674-g4e5d555: Simplify spiny code, and ignore player armour. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e5d555478ae 10:45:00 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:45:21 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:19 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:14 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:47:25 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 10:47:58 !crashlog DrPraetor 10:47:59 14. DrPraetor, XL16 GrVM, T:38976 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/DrPraetor/crash-DrPraetor-20140623-124420.txt 10:48:33 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:48:55 ??rebuild 10:48:55 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Napkin for CDO. 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[Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:32:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:33:09 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:41:14 -!- drachereborn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:42:31 item and monsters stats from the highest of elves: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z70m7enzRDXIOZi4jOwKy2erLP-IaiaT-IQSHFQ_11Q/edit?usp=sharing 14:46:08 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 14:46:30 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:09 Experimental (smithgod_rebased) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1690-g093be4c 14:50:35 huh, I wonder where that coagulated blood is coming from 14:51:42 probably weird vaults 14:51:48 oh, did someone just update smithgod 14:51:58 -!- infiniplex has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:59 I'm making changes 14:52:20 I guess maybe |amethyst or someone rebuilt it on cszo 14:52:39 ok, thanks 14:52:45 fun facts: only one exec axe generated on average in a typical dungeon 14:52:50 didn't realize it was so rare 14:53:06 also we're down to 2 demon blades 14:53:14 crap, really? 14:53:17 apparently! 14:53:20 man, and one claymore 14:53:29 gammafunk: when did that happen? 14:53:30 a noble soul would provide some way to aggregate those weapon types by class, maybe 14:53:37 SamB: did what happen? 14:53:55 I mean, part of the design philosophy is "m&f weapons are slightly worse than swords, but more common" 14:53:56 PleasingFungus: yeah, I was just thinking that; it's not especially meaningful, but I suppose it's useful 14:53:57 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:05 so being able to compare across... tiers, I guess? 14:54:11 because who cares about clubs 14:54:17 indeed 14:54:25 are those still more common than flies? 14:54:30 well how do you define tiers; you can also just do manipulation yourself in e.g. excell 14:54:34 unknown monster: "fly" 14:54:34 %??fly 14:54:35 that's a lot of rations 14:54:42 ontoclasm: people need to eat! 14:54:45 yeah I would do that if I knew excel 14:54:49 eatas gonna eat 14:54:51 or, well, have 14:54:52 idk. maybe I'll poke at it 14:55:04 yeah basic spreadsheet stuff is really easy 14:55:07 (do they still need to eat?) 14:55:08 ("tiers" are obviously defined "completely arbitrarily". obviously) 14:55:16 like writing 80085 14:55:27 gammafunk: that's spreedsheet stuff? 14:55:32 8008135 14:55:37 SamB: don't even have to hold your computer upside down 14:55:43 is that the flight sim code or something 14:55:44 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:02 drachereborn: All I did on smithgod_rebased was merge master again. 14:56:15 I love all the scythe spawns 14:56:17 presumably, reapers 14:56:26 2850 stones, lotta stones in this here dungeon 14:56:30 hrm, yeah I guess so 14:56:32 reaverb: thanks. I'm removing the gold cost stuff to make rebasing easier :) 14:56:44 Master branch won't compile: "make: *** No rule to make target `mon-stuff.h', needed by `abyss.o'. Stop." 14:56:55 drachereborn: Hmm, removing it from history or just a commit removing it? 14:57:01 infiniplex: "make clean" will fix that. 14:57:03 also removing cherufe (pubby's fire species) including its magma form 14:57:07 and 314 large rocks 14:57:10 that's kind of a lot 14:57:10 11.5 runes of zot, not sure if that's mimics or what 14:57:12 well, making a patch to remove 14:57:17 reaverb: Thanks 14:57:19 infiniplex type "make clean" and then your normal compile command. 14:57:37 That was non-sarcastic 14:57:47 I like how scale mail is the rarest non-dragon/crystal armour 14:58:02 because no one puts it in monster gear, probably 14:58:37 huh, helmets are twice as common as hats. didn't know that 14:58:46 infiniplex: I was just clarifiying, I didn't see your thanks until after I pressed enter. 14:59:03 need to figure out how to summarize both arte properties (ARTP_*) and spellbooks/spells 14:59:05 reaverb: what's the easy way to diff a branch's contents to main? 14:59:15 I'm thinking for arte books do something like what I do for brands 14:59:22 show numbers of each spell, and do same for schools 14:59:28 going by this for example: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=093be4c4a74ce6d4ebaebf78100466e536fd12df 14:59:30 drachereborn: git diff master smithgod_rebased 14:59:37 it's harder to manipulate in that format, but it's at least readable 14:59:39 oh ok 14:59:45 thanks 14:59:51 ??smithgod 14:59:51 smithgod ~ smith god ~ igni[1/3]: An experimental god branch on CSZO. The new god is described in this commit: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=c07910ae6d3bea3a66328782ca471c5a7da96add 15:00:03 ??smithgod[$ 15:00:03 smithgod ~ smith god ~ hammer[1/4]: Hammer, Damage Rating: 7, Accuracy Rating: +3, Base Attack Delay: 13 15:00:08 Then maybe just an artp table and a spell table and a school table, but this is a lot of detail 15:00:14 drachereborn: I was going to do that, but there was a lot stuff in master which wasn't in smithgod so, I decided to merge master... 15:00:19 that stuff is relevant for seing what the acquire code is doing 15:00:24 (which is why I merged yersturday) 15:00:28 huh, that's a lot of "buggy jewelery" entries 15:00:29 well the artefact code I mean 15:00:32 hmm 15:00:34 yeah, need to look into those 15:00:37 and maybe exclude them 15:00:47 thanks for that reaverb, merging must be a pain 15:00:49 like there are 500 "buggy foods" that I exclude 15:00:53 drachereborn: (btw removing the gold code with a patch will technically only help with mergeing smithgod <_<) 15:00:56 haha 15:01:16 drachereborn: Nah, there were two conflicts. Most of it is handled automatically. 15:01:16 ??smithgod[2 15:01:17 smithgod ~ smith god ~ igni[2/3]: The branch also tries to make the swamp's layout better. 15:01:23 !learn del igni[2 15:01:24 Deleted igni[2/3]: The branch also tries to make the swamp's layout better. 15:01:24 I had to sit down and "design" a class for what must be the first time 15:01:27 Because that is no longer true. 15:01:35 ??igni[3 15:01:35 I don't have a page labeled igni[3] in my learndb. 15:01:40 ??igni[2 15:01:40 hammer[1/4]: Hammer, Damage Rating: 7, Accuracy Rating: +3, Base Attack Delay: 13 15:01:44 in order to have a notion of a "valid item for object gen" 15:02:15 true blue software engineer 15:02:32 drachereborn: Have you played Igni in the last couple of days? I think I might have broken Igni piety when I merged the enchant weapon change. I'm at *** after finishing the Lair. 15:02:32 typical dungeon has 2 fire crabs 15:02:44 and 1.75 torpor snails 15:02:45 mmm 15:02:46 I probably over autoexplore though. 15:02:46 !!! 15:02:58 reaverb: not in a while, I think 15:03:14 but that's ok, piety gain is probably going to change 15:03:42 dpeg's idea is to give piety on kills, with bonus piety for using enchanted gear 15:03:45 ...and 1.08 sojobos? 15:03:50 PleasingFungus: That sounds completely reasonable to me. (Where are the stats again?) 15:03:51 gammafunk, explain yourself 15:03:52 mmmmm 15:03:54 Pleasingfungus: Ha. 15:04:02 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:05 interesting 15:04:11 some kind of unique placement bug? 15:04:12 gammafunk: how does it handle bands 15:04:20 reaverb: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z70m7enzRDXIOZi4jOwKy2erLP-IaiaT-IQSHFQ_11Q/edit?usp=sharing 15:04:30 Basil: It's just normal monster generation; so it makes the dungeon, counts things 15:04:32 Pleasingfungus: thanks for linking. 15:04:38 gammafunk: thanks again for making this :D 15:04:47 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:04:50 np, it was a lot more work than I originally anticipated 15:04:51 yeah it's real cool 15:04:53 big surprise 15:05:01 ??food nsa 15:05:01 food NSA[1/1]: total nutrition consumed over the game, breakdown of what nurtition was spent on (spells, abilities, time, etc), rations found, rations consumed 15:05:08 hey 15:05:13 you're welcome evilmike 15:05:20 technically, you only did like 15:05:22 although only part of that 15:05:22 half of that 15:05:24 haha 15:05:37 yeah obviously "stuff you do in a game" is outside the scope of this 15:05:45 hmm 15:05:45 unless I want to incorporate xw or something 15:05:47 igni piety 15:05:53 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06:07 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:06:15 1.07 enchanteresses too. 15:06:37 yeah 1.21 st. rokas 15:06:45 somehow we're getting multiple uniques on occassion 15:07:06 !learn add food_nsa[2 Nutrition gen stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z70m7enzRDXIOZi4jOwKy2erLP-IaiaT-IQSHFQ_11Q/edit?usp=sharing 15:07:06 food NSA[2/2]: Nutrition gen stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z70m7enzRDXIOZi4jOwKy2erLP-IaiaT-IQSHFQ_11Q/edit?usp=sharing 15:07:08 hrm, I wonder if this doesn't quite honor the unique generation things 15:07:23 !lm * uniq=enchantress cv>=0.15 15:07:23 No milestones for * (uniq=enchantress cv>=0.15). 15:07:23 that's a likely explanation I guess 15:07:27 !lm * uniq=enchantress cv>=0.14 15:07:28 No milestones for * (uniq=enchantress cv>=0.14). 15:07:32 !lm * uniq=~~enchantress cv>=0.14 15:07:32 No milestones for * (uniq=~~enchantress cv>=0.14). 15:07:47 !lm * uniq=~enchantress 15:07:49 3748. [2014-06-23 16:06:11] Feo the Axe Maniac (L21 HOBe of Trog) killed the Enchantress on turn 43340. (Depths:3) 15:07:51 oh right 15:07:54 !lm * uniq=~enchantress cv=0.15-a 15:07:55 682. [2014-06-23 16:06:11] Feo the Axe Maniac (L21 HOBe of Trog) killed the Enchantress on turn 43340. (Depths:3) 15:08:07 0.22 serpents of hell 15:08:07 !lg * uniq~~enchantress cv=0.15-a 15:08:08 Unknown field: uniq 15:08:12 !lg * cv=0.15-a 15:08:13 149581. Alister the Vexing (L2 VpAM), quit the game on D:1 on 2014-06-23 20:07:49, with 19 points after 612 turns and 0:04:05. 15:08:15 so yeah 15:08:19 !lg * cv=0.15-a xl>20 15:08:19 2712. Mousus6 the Archmage (L27 DrIE of Vehumet), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-06-23 20:06:06, with 13853188 points after 116175 turns and 18:13:51. 15:08:21 !lm * cv=0.15-a /uniq=~enchantress 15:08:22 682/745803 milestones for * (cv=0.15-a): N=682/745803 (0.09%) 15:08:31 ...and 0 ilsuiws? 15:08:32 !lm * cv=0.15-a xl>20 /uniq=~enchantress 15:08:34 oh right no shoals 15:08:35 574/77471 milestones for * (cv=0.15-a xl>20): N=574/77471 (0.74%) 15:08:37 PleasingFungus: no shoals 15:08:43 I did swamp/snake 15:08:47 so this could be a typical game 15:08:51 ideally you'd randomly choose 15:09:03 of course you can run it to generate those branches and any subset you like 15:09:14 it allows ranges like !Snake,Spider etc 15:09:24 Zot:1-4 and such 15:09:37 solid 15:09:40 this command was 15:09:48 ./crawl -objstat D,Temple,Sewer,Ossuary,Orc,Elf,Bailey,Lair,Swamp,Snake,Slime,IceCv,Volcano,Lab,Trove,Vaults,Crypt,Tomb,Bazaar,WizLab,Depths,Zot,Hell,Geh,Coc,Dis,Tar 15:10:07 I think maybe I could have simplified that down to some !Snake,!Abyss,.. entries 15:10:12 but I didn't think to try 15:10:31 I excluded Zig,Pan,Abyss,Shoals,Spider 15:10:53 it's nice that you're stateless between levels, but it's gonna make unique stats come out wrong, yeah 15:11:05 well I'll have to see for sure 15:11:09 if it is indeed stateless 15:11:11 I guess I haven't seen the code 15:11:16 because there is a player instance 15:11:45 I'd have guessed that we'd see significantly more than 1 if it ignored the uniques seen, but maybe not? 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16:41:56 -!- infiniplex has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:42:44 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:32 Does adding a prompt for whenever players try to move while they have DUR_BARBS reasonable? It could be done only on low hp, but I'm not sure if it's worth leaking ATTR_BARB_POW 16:44:33 ? 16:47:01 you could always base it on the max possible value of ATTR_BARB_POW - does that have some reasonable bound? 16:48:21 PleasingFungus: Hmm. 16:49:01 Ah, it's maxed out at 6. 16:50:35 So that's a max of...12 damage? That's odd. 16:50:37 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:50:38 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:41 reaverb: I've put the smithgod patch on mantis, bug 8190 16:50:48 It seemed a lot more. 16:50:55 drachereborn: Thanks. 16:51:01 !bug 8190 16:51:01 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8190 16:51:11 reaverb: I should thank you :) 16:51:28 reaverb: per step? that sounds perfectly plausible 16:51:41 Pleasingfungus: yeah 16:52:26 drachereborn: Two minor things 1) That commit should probably be two commits 2) That should patch should have been a new issue. I'll handle it. 16:53:48 reaverb: you'll handle the new issue or the splitting? or both? :) 16:54:41 I probably won't bother with the new issue, but I'll probably handle the splitting (or maybe just not split it) 16:54:46 I have to go for now. 16:55:06 Smith God game crashes descending from Snake 1 to 2 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8734 by enigmoo 16:56:05 !crashlog enigmoo 16:56:06 32. enigmoo, XL15 VpSk, T:52652 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/enigmoo/crash-enigmoo-20140623-063342.txt 16:56:20 hm 16:56:31 I mean, that's clearly my bug 16:56:47 but I have no idea whether the relevant version of the game included my 'fix' 16:57:19 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58:35 smithgod was only up to c5dd932 16:59:02 huh 16:59:18 %git 093be4c 16:59:20 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1690-g093be4c: Merge branch 'master' into smithgod_rebased 10(18 hours ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=093be4c4a74c 16:59:26 nope 16:59:50 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:59:56 ...but, that was about two hours before my possible fix 16:59:58 bad timing 17:00:05 yeah 17:03:23 Pleasingfungus: so are you going to merge master into smithgod_rebased or should I? 17:03:34 I won't be home for another six hours or so 17:03:46 drachereborn: Hmm, does that patch handle older CHERUFE saves? 17:04:09 Pleasingfungus: I'll proabaly have merged by then, don't worry about it. 17:04:16 OK, thanks! 17:04:21 reaverb: hmm, I didn't think to do that 17:04:31 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:04:45 experimental branches do have that big warning for players 17:04:47 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:24 drachereborn: They do, but I wiping all the saves on the branch probably isn't worth it just to push that clean-up <_< 17:05:43 We should try automagically turning them into humans or something. 17:05:47 is there a way to check if anyone's playing a cherufe? 17:06:20 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1675-g4580af5 (34) 17:06:21 it's possible that not many are, since pubby never advertised it much 17:10:07 drachereborn: There's no way I know of, it would have to be specifically implemented. 17:10:48 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 17:10:56 ok, I'll add code to auto change cherufes 17:11:40 I guess I'll need to look at the commit removing lava orcs? 17:12:22 the commit removing lava orcs just forbid players from picking them and marked the code for removal next time we break save compatability. 17:12:55 (It might make sense to remove Cherufe just before merging the branch with Trunk. 17:12:57 ) 17:14:34 -!- Zooty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15:05 Ok, should I just separate out the commit for the gold costs then? That would be useful now 17:15:30 yes that would be nice. 17:15:37 ok 17:17:37 dracherereborn: Hmm, the orginal combined patch appears to change the air gust messages back to mentioning the fan. 17:18:04 And rempve his divin bellow ability?? 17:18:08 remove 17:18:41 -!- Roarke has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:19:47 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:19:51 reaverb: oh yes. probably should be separate as well 17:20:11 drachereborn: Err, why is it there at all? 17:20:24 Frenzied monsters don't attack other frenzied monsters 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8735 by Roarke 17:20:26 you mean why is it removed? 17:20:29 Yes. 17:20:45 it's one of the abilities that will be replaced 17:20:57 Is the the replacement coded yet? 17:20:58 but I guess I should wait for the actual replacement 17:21:01 yeah 17:21:05 Yes it should. 17:21:22 also it seems to undo my (minor) refacotring of the piety for explore code. 17:21:46 oh, I thought I changed it back to be similar to trunk 17:21:58 and remove a bunch of code for unarmed combat verbs. 17:22:15 drachereborn: You did! It's just the smithgod_rebased way is better. 17:22:25 (Change it to be similar to Trunk) 17:22:32 heh 17:23:10 those unarmed combat verbs for magma form only duplicate existing ones 17:23:28 well maybe not 100% the same, but close 17:24:53 No, I'm pretty sure you removed those verbs for Status and lich form too. 17:25:06 And magma was just using the same bit of code. 17:25:28 oh oh 17:26:03 -!- soundlust|2 is now known as soundlust 17:26:04 Hmm, actually maybe not. 17:26:14 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 17:27:21 actually, I think you're right 17:27:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:57 !source melee_attack.cc 17:27:57 No, I think I'm wrong. :D I have no idea why that code was added, but it does seem to duplicate the stuff under "fallthrough" 17:27:57 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc;hb=HEAD 17:28:51 yeah, it's not there in trunk 17:29:12 ok, I don't totally suck with diff :D 17:33:31 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:40:43 One other thing worth looking at might be the DUR_ICEMAIL_DEPLETED bit. 17:41:03 I don't really know if that should be in there or not, at the very least it should probably be a seperate commit. 17:42:37 drachereborn: Oh yes you would also need other special handling of the variables TRAN_MAGMA added to remove that code. 17:42:55 Really it would be best to just remove cherfue just before merging into trunk. 17:43:01 yeah 17:43:29 the ICEMAIL bit looks like something pubby fixed 17:44:01 Might also be related to item destruction removal? 17:44:08 hmm, maybe 17:44:39 In general, I just try to change things back to be similar to master 17:45:27 Well, if it was that simple there would probably be some sort of automatic command to do it. 17:46:01 well, someone still needs to look at the code to determine which are igni related and which aren;t 17:46:25 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:47:18 Hmm. 17:47:28 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:47:29 Anyway, thanks for the patch. 17:48:11 no problem. it's for my own benefit too :) 17:50:20 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:54:06 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:55:00 Ok, I think I'll prompt if you have DUR_BARBS and less than or equal to 12 hp. 17:55:22 Not doing anything more complicated like "Don't prompt if you have DEATHS_DOOR" or such. 17:56:01 I'm using "The spikes in you skin could kill you if you move. Continue?" . Any better suggestions? 17:57:08 Not sure if waiting until the player is near death is best. How often do you want to move with barbs? 18:02:05 -!- sbuggay is now known as pwnmonkey 18:02:16 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Client Quit] 18:02:33 "Are you sure you want to move while barbed?" 18:02:47 -!- sbuggay has quit [Client Quit] 18:02:55 also, you do sometimes want to move while barbed, and it'd be *really annoying* to have to answer a y/n prompt for every move in those cases! 18:03:09 The manticore gestures at you while chanting. You turn into a barbie! 18:03:13 hrm, probably only the first movement 18:03:16 would be enough 18:03:32 gammafunk: ...that would be even more complicated. 18:03:43 well not terribly 18:04:02 Well we would have to save state. 18:04:02 but yeah I agree we don't want to prompt every time 18:04:12 sure, there are instances like this in crawl already 18:04:16 a property would work 18:04:34 I've seen it for e.g. targeting 18:04:40 and something else I forget at the moment 18:05:15 PleasingFungus: I don't think "are you sure you want to move while barbed" fit crawl's tone. (Not that my suggestion fits either ) 18:06:23 gammafunk: Hmm, ok, I guess I'll add a property, and check every time the player wants to start moving? 18:06:32 Is anyone making a case for "just let someone die if they move while barbed at 3 HP?" 18:06:41 reaverb: well, I'd have to dig into the code a bit to show you a good example of how to do it 18:06:49 Roarke: It's just going to prompt. 18:07:04 mm I see 18:07:05 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 18:07:07 I'm not sure that the "could kill you prompt" is really a good idea, but I guess it's a stop-gap until we do what I'm proposing 18:07:21 gammafunk: what is it you're proposing? 18:07:29 reaverb: ah, attacking with a !a weapon 18:07:42 like it only prompts you the first time, and resets that eventually 18:07:52 gammafunk: Hmm, I'll look at that. 18:07:55 I forget what exactly resets it 18:08:02 but yeah that'd be a great example 18:08:10 reaverb: or just attacking with a sling 18:08:20 if the annotation stuff is hard to find, but it probably isn't 18:08:32 so I think in melee_attack there's bad_attack or somethign 18:08:54 gammafunk: So your proposal is to ask when the player first starts moving? 18:09:26 yeah, pretty much. 18:09:45 then you don't have to special case the hp , although you could change the prompt I guess 18:09:45 Ok. 18:10:20 maybe others disagree with me 18:10:27 you might as MarvinPA what he thinks 18:10:29 what does poison do in similar situations? 18:10:36 before you start coding up stuff 18:11:00 ChangeAj: Not relevant because you don't get killed when you do specific actions with poison. 18:11:04 how many times do you have to press 5 while low on hp due to poison 18:11:07 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11:23 ChangeAj: Pretty sure you can't use 5 if it's lethal, otherwise you can. 18:11:30 Something like moving while confused would be the best comparision.. 18:11:45 gammafunk: Heh, the low hp thing is already coded... 18:12:08 might, confuse movement already does this as well 18:12:15 so that might even be a better example? 18:12:23 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:12:55 gammafunk: I'm confused by you statment about confuse movement. 18:13:01 s/you/your/ 18:13:11 well it doesn't prompt you each time, does it? 18:13:28 as in, the first time I move while e.g. adjacent to an allie or near water 18:13:32 Pretty sure it does. 18:13:33 when confused 18:13:40 ok, I might be misremembering 18:13:43 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:14:23 Yeah it asks you every time. 18:14:28 (confusion) 18:14:47 -!- Elynae has left ##crawl-dev 18:14:47 But it does not ask you if you are two squares from a liquid. 18:14:50 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:15:28 reaverb: yeah, attacking with a !a weapon or a launcher does do what I'm talking about though 18:15:46 gammafunk: (I did find that hard to search for though) 18:15:46 I think it resets the state when you unwield 18:16:04 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:16:04 reaverb: it's melee_attack and something about bad_attack I think 18:16:13 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:22 Also !a weapon won't insta kill you if you mess it up (Unless you are right next to a monster in whcih case you shouldn't have attacked with a normal weapon either) 18:19:20 gammafunk !a doesn't use a prompt (and is in fight.cc) 18:19:33 what do you mean doesn't use a prompt 18:19:37 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:19:39 yeah I found the reference 18:19:39 Err, prop 18:19:48 -!- rast- is now known as rast 18:19:51 reaverb: it uses you.received_weapon_warning 18:19:58 Yes it does. 18:20:13 but I think we can see that the concept is the same 18:20:22 Yes. 18:20:23 I mean you can make it a player variable of course 18:20:35 yeah, regarding the killing you thing 18:20:47 I guess you could change the behaviour at low hp 18:20:57 it's not hard to condition on that 18:20:59 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:21:09 Really all this seems over complicated, both for the interface and technically. 18:21:25 well technically it seems pretty easy, getting the interface just right is the thing 18:21:44 I mean that check in fight.cc is just an if block 18:21:56 Well we have to store state, and reset is on not moving. 18:22:06 Which will probably make main.cc even worse. 18:22:13 reaverb: you would reset when barbs expired 18:22:16 that's not very complicated 18:22:20 And if we check the hp we've made a magic number. 18:22:22 when the duration expires 18:22:26 gammafunk: Hmm, that seems fine. 18:22:26 you reset the state 18:22:49 reaverb: yeah that's the problem with hp; you're revealing the barb damage I guess 18:22:59 or at least the max damage, but that's not much to write home about 18:23:09 Well, barb max damage would be a spoiler anyway. 18:23:18 Resetting on the duration expiring seems fine to me. 18:23:33 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:23:35 (Of course this means we're using he props hash as a global but what doesn't do that in Crawl) 18:23:41 s/he/the/ 18:23:57 yeah it's pretty much a global by definition 18:24:03 since you is global 18:24:14 dependin on what you mean by global 18:24:34 probably better to use a property since this is relatively one-off 18:24:40 as opposed to weapon wielding 18:24:47 global: Some varaible which can be accessed from anywhere or nearly anywhere in the program. 18:25:01 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:25:07 reaverb: yes but that's my point; player properties are by definition global in crawl 18:25:10 since they live in you 18:25:15 (the player instance) 18:25:19 Yes. 18:26:01 Do you know of any roguelikes which are well programmed I can study the archeteture of <_< 18:26:15 I hear brogue has pretty good code? 18:26:21 never looked though; I've only seen nethack and this game 18:26:23 Hmm. 18:26:39 Ha, I've heard nethack code is even worse. 18:26:49 it's pretty....hacky 18:27:16 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:28:34 -!- Farcaster has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 18:32:03 Kind of a hack-job 18:33:27 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:27 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 18:33:27 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:42 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:37:30 gammafunk: So would you still want me to talk to MarvinPA before implementeing the props version of the barb prompt? 18:38:25 either way I'm not going to impelment that today. 18:46:53 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:41 !learn del reaverb[6 18:47:41 reaverb has only 5 entries. 18:47:46 !learn del reaverb[5 18:47:46 Deleted reaverb[5/5]: Mantis issue #8685 | Remove gold costs from abilities in the smithgod_rebased branch 18:50:06 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:51:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:51:52 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:54:31 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140529030207]] 18:55:51 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:10 -!- rast- is now known as rast 18:59:03 -!- fiyawerx has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:05:26 seen in #emacs: Even the beneficial mutations screw you over. Stupid roguelikes. 19:05:43 -!- quixotic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:06:25 ,firearms is also ("roguelike" . "gives %s a useful but inconvenient vestigial tail") 19:07:15 SamB: Ha. 19:07:48 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1674-g4e5d555 (34) 19:08:00 (which is obviously a thing for the ,shoot command there to use) 19:10:21 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:11:12 -!- allbefore has quit [Client Quit] 19:12:25 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:12:40 -!- rast- is now known as rast 19:15:49 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 19:16:02 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:37 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:19:50 -!- rast- is now known as rast 19:22:47 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:06 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:37 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:25:01 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:25:02 -!- rast- is now known as rast 19:26:07 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:26:07 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:26:07 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:26:37 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:27:05 03PleasingFungus02 07[smithgod_rebased] * 0.15-a0-1700-g56e583c: Merge branch 'master' into smithgod_rebased 10(4 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=56e583cc9cca 19:27:07 patches for smithgod/equipgod 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8736 by DracheReborn 19:27:44 -!- Beast has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:27:50 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:08 -!- Roarke has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:32 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:31:02 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:10 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:31:20 Experimental (smithgod_rebased) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1700-g56e583c 19:32:13 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:32:17 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:32:22 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 19:36:00 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty_ 19:37:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:41:24 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:42:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:44:28 !message 19:44:33 !messages 19:44:34 No messages for Lasty_. 19:46:09 !tell |amethyst Do you think you might have time to update the Iashol experimental branch this week? 19:46:09 Lasty_: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 19:50:25 Lasty_: what are the latest batch of changes? 19:52:37 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:53:21 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:28 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:53:29 gammafunk: https://gitorious.org/crawl/lastys-crawl/commits/d7b1a2afb9ea07fc6a50e61b59c7c1b8235a36df everything after the last Neil Moore commit 19:53:54 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 19:57:40 man, rebasing this branch is going to be fun 19:58:12 maybe it won't be too bad though, since it doesn't change to many existing systems, but mostly adds stuff, I guess 19:58:14 yeaaaah 19:58:19 hopefully 19:58:37 And the worst interaction ( mutations) is already merged in 19:59:46 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:01:51 -!- OCTOTROG1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:07:35 Give clua all of a monsters unique spells 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8737 by Change 20:10:35 -!- OCTOTROG1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:08 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:14:15 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:14:49 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:14:55 -!- rast- is now known as rast 20:16:37 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:17:24 -!- valtern2 has quit [Quit: Yaaic - Yet another Android IRC client - http://www.yaaic.org] 20:18:00 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:42 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:21:23 -!- Watball has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:22:15 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:01 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:25:02 -!- rast- is now known as rast 20:25:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:25:21 -!- Watball has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:58 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:38:45 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:01 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:40:08 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:40:10 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 20:40:52 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:37 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:44:37 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:44:42 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 20:45:08 -!- Zathryth_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:48:57 -!- drachereborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:49:43 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:52:28 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:53:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:57:45 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 21:06:30 Vasek (L13 VpEn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1) 21:06:32 -!- Kintak has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:08:42 -!- vede has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:09:21 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:41 is this a zotdef bug? 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ZZZzzz…] 21:15:03 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1676-g63a5568: Fix stats for rods, misc. evocables, and corpseless monsters 10(39 minutes ago, 1 file, 34+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=63a5568c3cf6 21:15:03 03gammafunk02 07[objstat] * 0.15-a0-1681-g027e46e: Merge branch master into objstat 10(10 minutes ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=027e46ef79b9 21:15:04 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 21:17:05 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:18:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:20 -!- Aarinfel has quit [Quit: Bye] 21:20:38 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:22:29 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:36:38 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:41:48 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:42:13 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:12 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:48:29 So, that vault in Spider that places a fucking stone on every one of like 200 tiles? 21:48:37 It also slows down the game like crazy 21:48:40 and it is totally pointless 21:51:29 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:37 specifically, it slows down drawing tracers 21:51:44 including polearm reaching and tabbing with needles 21:51:52 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:51:59 and it makes autoexplore take forever 21:52:04 -!- mineral has quit [Changing host] 21:52:11 -!- N is now known as Guest45589 21:52:36 -!- mumi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:36 -!- owl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:52 !lm Lasty -lo 21:53:53 Unknown option: lo 21:53:56 !lm Lasty -log 21:53:57 Lasty, XL18 HuSu, T:58722 (milestone) has no matching game. 21:54:13 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:54:28 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:55:01 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:55:39 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 21:56:51 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 21:57:02 -!- ruwin has quit [] 21:57:21 -!- Guest45589 is now known as mumi 21:58:08 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 22:03:35 -!- TESTTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:06:07 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:10:17 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:13:21 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:14:00 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:37 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18:13 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:20:29 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:05 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:29:25 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:34 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:30:17 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:34:34 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:36:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:41:10 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:46 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:08 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:14 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:42:45 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:52 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:47:18 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:04 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:53:19 -!- Pepe has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:00:06 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:07:23 -!- Pepe has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 23:11:08 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:15:43 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:38 -!- nooodl__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:20:35 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:20:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:46 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:49 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:23:04 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:25:14 -!- nooodl__ has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 23:25:54 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:29:51 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 23:33:26 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:35:41 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 23:36:59 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1676-ge01c751: Upgrade some weapon upgrades 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e01c751b4b05 23:38:03 -!- Krakhan|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:38:04 huh, rods are nine times as rare as staves in random generation. 23:38:06 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:40:57 cutlasses are uncommon? 23:41:02 hm 23:41:05 ??food nsa[2 23:41:05 food NSA[2/2]: Nutrition gen stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z70m7enzRDXIOZi4jOwKy2erLP-IaiaT-IQSHFQ_11Q/edit?usp=sharing 23:41:17 huh 23:41:21 I though they were 23:41:25 but they're more common than falchions 23:41:27 that's kinda funny 23:41:33 well. I'm wrong! 23:42:00 well they're shit so it's not too weird that they're common 23:42:13 rip 23:42:27 tbh it feels like it makes more sense for beogh to turn them into longswords anyway 23:42:35 (short swords) 23:43:39 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:15 that's a funny mental image 23:44:36 well, he already turns cutlasses into scimitars 23:44:40 and maces into flails 23:44:43 which tbh is the really weird one 23:44:48 (then flails back into morningstars!) 23:48:27 tso can turn a demon trident into a trishula 23:48:30 which is a completely different shape 23:48:31 so hey 23:48:52 is it? 23:49:25 it looks pretty similar to me 23:49:28 at least in crawl's tiles 23:50:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:53:04 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:55:58 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1677-g16dc7de: Squash plusses on boring items (Hirsch) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=16dc7de330f9 23:56:02 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]