00:02:14 ah, figured it out 00:02:26 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1637-gdbf8174 (34) 00:02:48 oh yeah, reaverb, I was talking with minmay about making contemplative a badmut again 00:02:49 because it kind of is 00:02:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:03:11 PleasingFungus: I saw that conversation, the point about berserkitis is good. 00:03:22 I would be fine with makingIt a bad mutation again. 00:03:45 aight 00:03:47 would you like to or should I? 00:04:02 PleasingFungus: Feel free to. 00:05:29 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:00 -!- DayBay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:07:27 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:55 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1638-g2ba718f: Adjust the Contemplative mutation 10(3 minutes ago, 4 files, 7+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2ba718fbf94c 00:14:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 00:16:04 PleasingFungus: Since making comtemplative a badmut is a revert of a purposeful change I would have stated why that change is made in the commit message beyond "It is a badmut" 00:16:19 alas 00:16:22 (And also probably split that commit it two because of this) 00:16:41 reaverb: by the logic in your commit making contemplative a goodmut, berserkitis should also be a goodmut 00:16:51 minmay: he read this already and agreed 00:16:53 scroll up 00:18:33 huh, this function is only 300 lines long. it feels so much longer 00:18:39 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1638-g2ba718f (34) 00:19:46 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:21:45 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:22:39 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 00:23:53 -!- mineral is now known as owl 00:25:28 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:43 -!- Redz has left ##crawl-dev 00:26:27 oh god. I added it, it's just hidden until you scroll down, because the length of the menu is set in some other way 00:26:57 -!- owl is now known as mineral 00:27:00 PleasingFungus: Ha. 00:27:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27:08 that's not very useful at all! 00:27:19 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:58 PleasingFungus: Should probably refactor the menu code to not do that. <_< 00:29:04 well uh 00:29:07 or at least add some sort of comment. 00:29:08 I would have to understand how it's doing it 00:29:10 first 00:29:19 I don't understand this at all.... 00:29:23 PleasingFungus: Yes, once you make your discovery! 00:29:27 ha 00:29:30 I have about a million things to do 00:29:36 including a crash error that I should be fixing instead of this 00:29:47 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:31:11 "The lance glows as it skewers DEAD MONSTER." 00:31:14 Progress! 00:31:17 hooray 00:31:27 did you see what |amethyst was saying about wyrmbane earlier today? 00:31:36 PleasingFungus: Yes. 00:32:14 coo 00:32:32 I have no idea how wyrmbane worked before, since apparently the function could be called on dead monsters previously. 00:34:29 can anyone explain the following logic to me: "Removing chunks and having only spawned permafood would nerf mummies." 00:35:01 well, if you assumed that it made food matter less (!?!?), then mummies would have less of an advantage 00:35:04 so 00:35:05 no 00:35:07 I can't 00:35:17 tabstorm: Yes that sounds completely nonsensical. 00:35:20 Ok, just checking that my brain is properly functioning 00:35:24 Well not completely. 00:35:25 at this hour 00:37:06 This wyrmbane function has become pretty hacky, but I think I'm pretty close to getting it working. 00:37:22 oh man! 00:38:31 ...why does this code call min() 00:38:43 that seems like the most unnecessary use of templates 00:38:55 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:39:07 PleasingFungus: git blame it if you really want to know. 00:39:27 well, tbh I was hoping that someone who understood templates would reply 00:39:57 PleasingFungus: Well, showing where the code is would probably help with that. 00:40:03 o 00:40:04 fair enough 00:40:20 !source startup.cc:619 00:40:21 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/startup.cc;hb=HEAD#l619 00:40:33 though tbh I don't understand why min() would ever need to be a thing 00:41:04 -!- valrus has quit [Client Quit] 00:42:59 PleasingFungus: doesn't seem like the right location? 00:43:10 oops 00:43:23 oh, right, I added a bunch of lines 00:43:27 it's line 598 00:46:02 -!- eb has quit [] 00:49:30 PleasingFungus: I guess they're being explicite being min is a template function, but the compiler can infer the type from the arguments probably 00:49:39 s/being/because/ 00:49:49 it's especially weird because integer-typed min is used literally one line up 00:49:52 without the specified 00:50:05 *specifier 00:50:30 yeah I'm not even sure if we have another min that's maybe a macro 00:54:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1639-g8b14d17: Add a "New Game" option to the bottom of the save list 10(9 minutes ago, 1 file, 41+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b14d1760315 00:54:42 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1640-gbca73d3: Fix wizmode blessing (MarvinPA) 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bca73d33b73c 00:55:12 oh right i fixed that and then didn't push 00:55:20 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:55:23 o 00:55:26 I was wondering 00:55:37 also the recipe that I gave you to fix it didn't include tso blessing 00:55:38 "oops" 00:55:53 good thing i forgot then! 00:55:58 the min is apparently one from STL's algorithm header 00:56:31 Zaba: the templated or non-templated one? 00:56:36 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:43 there's no non-templated one as far as I can tell 00:56:59 ah 00:57:00 hm 00:59:04 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:01 we apparently used to have them as macros at some point 01:01:48 that particular min was just written that way at some point and never changed, I guess somebody'd underestimated type inference 01:02:21 I should probably fix that crash bug 01:06:01 -!- MarkFuKenni has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:08:46 -!- category has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:12:57 -!- Morik has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:14:24 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:08 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:18:32 hm. what's the canonical way to check "is monster x hostile to monster y"? 01:18:41 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:19:04 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1641-ged8ba04: Fix Wyrmbane not being enchanted on kills 10(36 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed8ba04e1629 01:20:05 mons_aligned possibly 01:21:12 that looks promising. 01:21:14 thanks! 01:22:16 ...why does crawl have this many flavours of "neutral" 01:33:18 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:33:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:36:24 -!- ChangeAj has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:40:12 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:42:54 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:48 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:54:37 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1642-g25bcbd2: Make torpor snails give Slow instead of -Swift 10(5 minutes ago, 4 files, 36+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25bcbd27cf76 01:55:13 PleasingFungus: did you add "because gammafunk was right" in the commit message 01:55:16 o 01:55:18 because that's an important point 01:55:21 I considered putting you in the message 01:55:25 but it seemed excessive 01:55:27 no I'm joking of course 01:55:31 we'll see how this goes; I may end up reverting it!!!! 01:55:35 dang 01:55:46 thousands of players perish. the lair floods with blood 01:55:47 Revert war 01:55:49 with yourself 01:55:58 tunnel snails rule 01:56:10 idk we'll see how it plays. 01:56:14 you refuse to work any more until PleaseingFungus leaves the dev team 01:56:27 er but spelled the right way 01:57:06 I was going to say that a flock of sheep don't seem like a very effective band, but I guess someone has to throw them a bone every now and again 01:57:13 the sheep are a joke band 01:57:15 !lg cv=0.15-a ikiller=~sheep 01:57:15 because I find sheep funny 01:57:15 No games for gammafunk (cv=0.15-a ikiller=~sheep). 01:57:20 !lg * cv=0.15-a ikiller=~sheep 01:57:21 42. Jziggy the Martial Artist (L9 OpTm of Makhleb), slain by a sheep on D:7 (grunt_livestock) on 2014-06-20 04:11:04, with 2308 points after 9667 turns and 0:20:11. 01:57:39 I forget, you looked at my no-backtracking-god proposal at some point, right? 01:57:39 !lg * cv=0.15-a ikiller=~yak 01:57:40 860. wlswn950114 the Hoplite (L10 MiFi of Makhleb), slain by a death yak (kmap: david_lair_generic) on D:9 on 2014-06-21 06:53:06, with 6568 points after 10260 turns and 0:46:58. 01:57:51 I don't think so? 01:57:56 er, well I remember it 01:57:57 o 01:58:02 just not any specific details 01:58:02 let me find the line 01:58:19 Another (or an alternate?) invocable ability would be summoning wild beasts. Inspired by a couple of the themes, below, 'exploration' and 'gladiatorial' - mechanically, it'd 01:58:21 Scale off invocations - 1-2 hounds/wolves/bears/elephants/dire-elephants, perhaps with a tiny (1/1000) chance of a herd of sheep 01:58:34 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:58:42 I'm pretty sure this was a bad idea, at least for this god (it might be a good randgod ability????) 01:59:56 -!- wonsu has quit [Client Quit] 02:01:41 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:03:43 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:06:02 -!- johlstei__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:18 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Client Quit] 02:10:21 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:11:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140608030203]] 02:14:54 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:57 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1642-g25bcbd2 (34) 02:19:53 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 02:28:55 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:30:18 -!- Hamstersaurusmex has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:33:28 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:46:44 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 03:04:16 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:04:47 -!- conted_ is now known as conted 03:06:02 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 03:12:52 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:40:24 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51:27 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:14:15 -!- hurdos has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:20:54 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:21:30 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:22:48 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:16 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 04:31:30 Summoned manticore's barbs persist after disappearance 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8718 by FishServ 04:31:45 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:40:01 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:41:30 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:44:01 -!- Zathryth has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:49:03 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! 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08:36:28 <|amethyst> Patashu: gozag's fee is based on the amount of gold generated in the game 08:38:09 -!- GhostSonOfGhost has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 08:40:01 So, uh, I just got an infinite loop inside a loop that's explicitly limited to avoid an infinite condition. 08:40:07 Can I get a high five? 08:40:12 <|amethyst> heh 08:40:15 <|amethyst> where? 08:40:18 no, but you can have a cookie 08:40:22 mon-act.cc 2728 08:40:33 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:40:40 Oh, I specifically triggered the anti-infinite loop protection 08:40:43 <|amethyst> Lasty_: in iashol branch? 08:40:46 yeah 08:41:24 <|amethyst> that line number is putting me in _jelly_divide 08:41:34 Oh, right 08:41:39 <|amethyst> handle_monsters 08:41:42 <|amethyst> I see 08:41:48 die("infinite handle_monsters() loop, mons[0 of %d] is %s", 08:41:50 is the ine 08:41:55 *line 08:42:02 <|amethyst> some monster keeps doing something without spending any time 08:42:06 yeah 08:42:17 Oh! 08:42:25 thanks 08:43:03 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:51:45 Damn it worm, attack yourself! 08:55:40 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:56:14 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:56:23 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 08:56:31 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:59:27 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:47 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:48 -!- Amnesiac has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:00 -!- Amnesiac has left ##crawl-dev 09:24:49 -!- marisa_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:25:46 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 09:30:07 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:03 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:41:41 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:50:27 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:54:41 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:43 -!- djinni has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:03:31 -!- ivan`` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:04:04 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:05:13 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:08:43 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:33 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:15:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:08 -!- Tenda has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:18:05 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:18:12 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:48 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:57 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:43 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:36:59 -!- tupper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:39:41 -!- DKR has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:40:20 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:47:05 I assume torpor snails are supposed to slow you even if they're wandering/asleep 10:48:23 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:49:31 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51:19 ...oddly enough they don't seem to do that if you kill them the instant you enter their line of sight 10:57:53 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:17 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:37 -!- debo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:06:03 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 11:06:17 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:28 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:13:31 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:13:32 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 11:20:59 -!- blabber has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22:08 Yellow poisoned part of HP bar isn't refreshed until the HP of the player changes (VS/potion of curing) 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8719 by nagdon 11:30:53 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:32:15 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:32:45 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:34:42 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 11:36:40 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:37:15 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:24 Kvaak: yeah they take a little bit to kick in, because of how monster energy works (?) 11:40:27 I think that's okay 11:41:43 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:43:55 -!- ivan`` has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45:47 -!- hurdos has quit [Client Quit] 11:51:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:53:43 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140608030203]] 12:05:06 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:58 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 12:11:23 -!- ChangeAj has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1642-g25bcbd2 (34) 12:16:00 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector] 12:18:50 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:22:44 these wordpress comments are...interesting 12:22:58 "The best melee class weapon brands for 15-rune endgame are holy wrath and vorpal. Vorpal used to be acquirable consistently using brand weapon scrolls. Now vorpal only has a 10% chance from brand weapon scrolls." 12:23:07 -!- jason55 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:26:26 overall just normal outrage at supposedly controversial changes, no? 12:27:27 not even anywhere near a controversial change in this case (or at least one would have thought!) 12:28:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:28:09 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:16 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:29:50 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:33:59 Oh, and another thing about that wordpress post. 12:34:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:34:32 That post and the changelog way that sublimatingchunks with sublimation of blood was removed. 12:34:57 But looking at a trunk build and the commit log it looks like nobody ever actually removed it. 12:35:01 And it was just discussed. 12:36:05 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:37:30 i was working on it locally, can finish it up at some point probably 12:37:42 MarvinPA: Oh, Thank you. 12:38:37 !tell Grunt crate points out that ranged combat never causes blood currently, is that intentional? i have no clue whether it used to or not, but i guess it doesn't do currently because it uses DAMV_NON_MELEE so modify_blood_amount returns 0? 12:38:38 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:39:33 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40:32 !tell Grunt i guess it's not as simple as adding damage types to the launchers since that'd do weird things when you hit with them in melee, maybe 12:40:32 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let grunt know. 12:49:17 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:42 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:31 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:50:40 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 12:54:17 ratskin cloak seems like a good unrand to remove/improve 12:55:57 how will chunkless affect butchering while berserk? 12:57:26 Kvaak: It doesn't currently effect butchering while berserk, maybe it should. 12:57:47 you can still butcher in chunkless? 12:58:08 Kvaak: Yes, for Gh and some spells which haven't had chunk costs removed yet. 12:58:12 mm, okay 12:59:30 Hmm, that spurred me to merge master into chunkless but there weren't any conflicts, so I guess I won't push it because it might conflict with gammafunk's work. 12:59:35 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:41 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:02:10 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04:57 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:05:57 hm 13:06:00 I should make another changelog post 13:06:14 possibly with less non-factual information (e.g. sublimation) 13:06:16 Meninting chunk sublimation was never actually removed? 13:06:32 maybe I'll wait to make another post until chunk sublimation is removed 13:06:36 then I won't have to mention it! 13:06:43 PleasingFungus: Ha. 13:08:56 ok, this is still pretty comically broken, but basic output is coming together: http://sprunge.us/hcjF 13:09:31 did you know 0.6 meat rations created on average on d:1 13:09:40 gammafunk: That looks great! 13:09:46 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:09:49 reaverb: yeah, I'm going ot add monsters next 13:09:52 so we'll get monsters stats 13:10:01 xp, hp, the good stuff 13:10:06 nice...... 13:10:20 reaverb: oh uh I should show you something pretty funny 13:10:25 gammafunk: Sure. 13:12:30 !bug 8717 13:12:31 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8717 13:13:29 reaverb: http://sprunge.us/LXDN?diff 13:13:35 search for og_init_fields 13:13:53 that's what I had to do in order to make it sane to initialize my fieldnames under our supported C++ standard 13:15:19 it turns out the best thing to use seems to be just a bunch of vectors of vectors and such, but have fun initializing them 13:15:28 at least in not C++11 or w/e 13:15:56 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:01 you can put them easilly in an array and initialize a vector from the array....but then you have to make the array each time 13:17:49 Hmm, maybe those 3 #define s could be an enum? 13:17:56 Starting at line 117 13:18:39 yeah honestly I didn't know how to make that not silly 13:18:49 it's literally just an indexing thing 13:19:19 probably still enum it anyhow 13:19:21 Hmm. 13:20:11 Oh, hmm. 13:20:24 Forest doesn't have a layout anymore, so going there crashes. 13:20:38 typical forest 13:20:40 I don't know if this effects older saves with ungenerated forest levels. 13:21:07 hrm, I saw a transfered game that had it and the level was fine; it had the typical layout 13:21:14 oh did infiniplex's patch disable it? 13:21:19 it shouldn't have done that really 13:21:24 Yes it was infiniplex's patch. 13:21:26 I didn't think about that 13:21:37 yeah we should re-enable the layout there 13:21:39 I'll renable it, see if that works. 13:21:54 what's the keyword for ongoing games? 13:22:15 gammafunk: I don't even know what that menas :D 13:22:19 Sequell? 13:22:21 sorry, for lm 13:22:22 yeah 13:22:29 !lm alive 13:22:29 299. [2013-09-16 20:23:58] Alive the Axe Maniac (L25 LOBe of Trog) reached level 5 of the Realm of Zot on turn 64000. (Zot:5) 13:22:42 Ha. 13:22:46 !lm * alive 13:22:52 61076. [2014-06-21 18:21:31] fearitself the Unseen (L11 SpBe of Trog) entered an Ice Cave on turn 11728. (Lair:1) 13:23:03 I suspect that's correct? 13:23:04 !lm cv=0.15-a alive br.enter=forest 13:23:05 No milestones for gammafunk (cv=0.15-a alive br.enter=forest). 13:23:09 !lm * cv=0.15-a alive br.enter=forest 13:23:10 1. [2014-06-14 23:46:58] MakMorn the Executioner (L19 LOFi of Elyvilon) entered the Enchanted Forest on turn 72666. (Vaults:2) 13:23:22 well that level has already generated I guess 13:23:33 Did he generate all the levels? 13:23:34 06-14, so they're fine 13:23:43 Yeah I suppose that could be a problem 13:23:49 in any case, no epidemic 13:27:45 Hmm, does crypt still generate zombies from the Forest? 13:32:59 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:27 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:24 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:45 !seen |amethyst 13:37:45 I last saw |amethyst at Sat Jun 21 13:42:02 2014 UTC (4h 55m 43s ago) saying 'some monster keeps doing something without spending any time' on ##crawl-dev. 13:38:06 !tell |amethyst How did you replicate the crash in 8717? 13:38:06 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 13:38:45 PleasingFungus: need help replication the condition or did you recall a monster onto a shaft and not have a ctash occur? 13:39:00 the former, I suppose. 13:39:02 mm. 13:39:25 I would find one of those vaults which places a lot of shafts and generate that at my position. 13:39:34 And then recall monsters to me. 13:39:51 (Would set up the recall by worshipping Yred or Beogh first.) 13:40:01 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:40:49 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:41 hrm, what's better, if we're doing N iterations (100 by default) to show the absolute number generated or to just divide it by N 13:42:00 problem is many of these average numbers will be e.g. 0.01 or something 13:42:11 if we divide by the number of iterations I mean 13:42:23 Showing comparable numbers seems good. Maybe alwasy rescale to 100? 13:42:42 yeah, perhaps I should just use more decimal places 13:43:59 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:44:11 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:45:06 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:04 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1643-g93daa85: Remove some Forest spawn tables on TAG_MAJOR_VERSION bump 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=93daa8595e1f 13:50:59 Speaking of spawn tables, there was a Tavern thread which suggested removing fish pools. 13:51:21 I think trying removing water melee-only monsters from spawns would be a good experiment. 13:51:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:01 Things like electric eels don't work much better but at least they're more likely to guard something important like in that Lair entry vault. 13:53:23 You mean big fish and sharks, not kraken, right? 13:53:33 PleasingFungus: correct. 13:55:23 mm. 13:56:46 I feel like they could almost work in the spider endings that have the outer ring around the rune vault, with the narrow corridors & little pools along the side - since it's hard to get by them, and you can get webbed... they're too weak by the time they show up there, though. 13:56:55 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:57:04 PleasingFungus: Luckily they will not be removed from vaults quite yet. 13:57:05 likewise sharks in shoals. 13:57:13 ah, are those actually placed by the vault? 13:57:22 I though they were just part of normal water monster spawns 13:57:25 Shoals have kraken which are probably better 13:57:55 Hmm, normally people specifically prevent vaults from getting misc water spawns. would have to check the vault though. 13:58:01 shoals has extremely, extremely rare krakens 13:58:26 Also merfolk, and such. 13:58:30 sure. 13:58:59 !vault grunt_spider_rune_circles 13:58:59 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/spider.des;hb=HEAD#l1355 13:59:03 just normal water spawns here 13:59:07 -!- rbrrk_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:59:14 In any case, the change can easily be reverted if it turns out to be bad. 13:59:34 likewise the vault above it 13:59:36 but I highly doubt this would be a net negative, we could selectively restore anything which turned out to be a good effect later too. 13:59:41 yeah, sure. 13:59:59 I'm not saying they really do work now, just that some variant on them could. 14:00:12 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:00:33 Hmm, I guess I'll just implement this and push then. 14:00:55 Only other thing is swamp worms, which I'll leave for now <_< 14:01:33 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:01:40 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 14:03:35 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:04:00 can autopickup please default to true for all books under trog? it is annoying having to go into the menu every time you pick up a new book 14:05:06 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:13 -!- Insomniak has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:07:42 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08:17 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:11:45 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 14:16:58 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:17:28 -!- rchandra1 is now known as rchandra 14:17:40 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:23 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 14:29:22 -!- GrandPoobah has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:33:28 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:02 * reaverb wonders if a vault were a Kraken guarded a Shoals entrance be too cruel. 14:34:29 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:34:30 no because it's shoals 14:34:44 yeah, there are way worse entrance guardians 14:34:52 krakens don't even rate 14:34:52 it's still not a great idea 14:35:03 gammafunk: Hmm, why? 14:35:39 because you have no way of avoiding it aside from something like invis 14:35:49 in shoals you can escape the kraken 14:36:30 is it intended that nessos' flaming longbow no longer has an effect on his arrows? 14:36:41 probably not 14:37:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:37:03 fallout from the ranged overhaul I'm sure 14:37:08 well a kraken is basically a jellyfish that takes longer to kill and is more dangerous to braverobin 14:37:09 gammafunk: Hmm, not sure how undesirable cutting off some options in one vault is. 14:37:13 The poisoned arrow hits you for 13! The poisoned arrow burns you. 14:37:15 minmay: Ha. 14:37:17 seems to be working to me 14:37:23 just like all water/lava monsters 14:37:51 reaverb: cutting off some options? 14:38:05 my biggest concern with one in an entrance vault would be its likelihood of killing an unspoiled player from full hp in one turn, but krakens inside shoals do that too, so thats probably not so bad 14:39:11 PleasingFungus: oh, I see. yeah, I was misled by it only being described as a "poisoned arrow" 14:39:30 gammafunk: For the theoretical kraken shoals entrance. 14:39:37 yeah but I don't know what you mean 14:39:42 also, any character with a blowgun and poisoned needles can kill a kraken, so unless you're worried about tso worshippers being unable to do shoals really early... 14:39:46 ...you're not really cutting off any options 14:40:12 but but cats 14:40:46 oh right, i keep forgetting those are actually in the game 14:41:03 that's because they shouldn't be 14:41:23 minmay: You can really kills kraken with just a blowgun? I'll look at that. 14:41:33 (The bad way to fix this would be rPois Kraken) 14:42:10 just make kraken amphibious, problem solved 14:42:30 reaverb: I do it all the time 14:42:39 minmay: Hmm. 14:42:49 reaverb: of course, there are many, many other trivial ways to kill water/lava monsters 14:43:34 you can kill a kraken without taking damage using any ranged attack that doesn't do less damage than the kraken naturally regenerates (which is not hard even with a 0 skill launcher) 14:43:59 minmay: yeah maybe the description should be changed. idk how much effort is worth putting into a special effect for one unique? 14:44:01 not sure 14:44:15 s/effort/code complexity 14:44:23 PleasingFungus: just change his longbow to speed 14:44:30 dang 14:44:39 hastenessos with speed bow 14:44:42 yes please 14:45:02 could be a spokesperson for one of those energy drinks 14:45:16 malicious centaurs give you wings? 14:45:27 *the blood of malicious centaurs (clearly) 14:45:31 malicious centaurs are batshit insane 14:47:29 Is it fine if I don't meddle with swamp spawns for this "Don't spawn a bunch of melee-only liquid monsters" commit? I think it would effect xp totals too much to be done easily. 14:47:53 does swamp even spawn big fish or sharks? I thought it didn't. 14:48:00 swamp worms. 14:48:06 I thought you weren't gonna touch those 14:48:17 well that's what he's saying 14:48:19 Oh, did I already mention I wasn't going to touch those? 14:48:22 yes 14:48:29 apparently nessos ench:haste ; longbow ego:speed doesn't give nessos any arrows 14:48:33 Oh, oops. 14:48:37 [12:00] reaverb Only other thing is swamp worms, which I'll leave for now <_< 14:48:47 hrm, is the overall number of water spawns staying the same? 14:48:54 just replace all swamp worms with swamp drakes 14:48:55 that'd be a lot of elec eels 14:49:00 gammafunk: Replacing with MONS_NO_MONSTER 14:49:01 there's a non-trivial xp change there already 14:49:02 and a lot of swamp drakes 14:49:02 only a 28 xp difference 14:49:04 respectively 14:49:19 i was joking 14:49:23 perhaps it actually is trivial 14:49:31 big fish (09;) | Spd: 10 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-31 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Dam: 8 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(16), 12drown | XP: 42 | Sz: little | Int: reptile. 14:49:31 %??big fish 14:49:32 since maybe the pond serial vaults place them explicitely? 14:49:33 shark (16;) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 18, 9 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(28), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 205 | Sz: Big | Int: reptile. 14:49:33 %??shark 14:49:37 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:49:40 well, each shark is a yak 14:49:53 PleasingFungus: yeah early big fish are worth a lot of xp 14:49:55 gnoll (08g) | Spd: 10 | HD: 2 | HP: 8-18 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Dam: 9 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(8) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 14 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 14:49:55 %??gnoll 14:49:58 mm 14:50:09 It's probably fine, just pointing it out 14:50:17 and hey, soon we'll have monster generation stats 14:50:56 I don't know how much comes from spawns and how much comes from vaults 14:51:05 probably most of that "fish experience" comes from vaults anyhow 14:51:15 Ok, I'm about to push. 14:59:03 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:00:01 -!- Orphic has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:00:33 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1644-ge4f72f6: Remove some liquid-only, melee-only monster spawns (Psiweapon) 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4f72f64e57e 15:00:33 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1645-gf7fddc8: Correct the call to apply_location_effects() in trample 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7fddc81ffbb 15:04:22 -!- rophy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:09:21 mm. recalling guys onto shafts doesn't seem to cause a crash 15:09:25 and my attempted fix does cause a crash 15:09:27 so....... 15:10:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:10:29 oh, I assume it still corrected some kind obvious error (your commit)? 15:10:53 oh never mind 15:10:57 the commit I just pushed is only tangentially related 15:11:01 gotcha 15:11:08 and doesn't seem to cause a crash, thankfully 15:12:28 PleasingFungus: Maybe try giving one of your recallees an item? |amethyst mentioned on the issue that it wa one cause of complication. 15:12:32 hrm, I wonder if there's an item description type or otherwise any kind of terse description for each object_class_type 15:12:49 reaverb: I think most of them had items.... 15:13:01 PleasingFungus: Oh, hmm. 15:13:04 idk. I'm gonna wait for him to get back before trying to independently trying to duplicate his efforts 15:13:11 seems like a better use of effort 15:13:15 aha, item_class_name 15:13:26 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:13:50 which doesn't take a type of object_class_type, but no matter! 15:20:21 -!- kramin has quit [Client Quit] 15:21:11 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21:19 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:05 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1646-g393eda0: Disable Nemelex in Zot Defense 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=393eda0d4447 15:26:26 -!- Werehuman_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:26:32 PleasingFungus: A better solution would probably be to find a way for Exploration piety to work in Spring/Zot Def. 15:26:40 But I guess that's better than nothing. 15:26:53 -!- Werehuman_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:27:02 so you decided to try to preserve zot defense? 15:27:06 (which is probably what would have happened if you hadn't pushed that <_< ) 15:27:51 average number of runes of zot generated on v:5, 1.35 15:27:53 thanks you mimics 15:27:55 PleasingFungus: Not completely sure how that follows. (Most concerned about a better solution for Sprint) 15:27:56 *thank you 15:27:56 <3 mimics 15:28:08 gammafunk: Ha. 15:28:16 reaverb: I only disabled nem in zot defense.... 15:28:26 quick, guess how much gold on average on v:5 15:28:32 uh 15:28:33 Well he doesn't work in Spring either. (or Ash) 15:28:34 2 15:28:43 sure. I agree it'd be good to fix that. 15:28:43 ...2? 15:28:44 Sprint why do I keep saying "Spring" 15:28:50 I was going to ask, yes 15:29:02 gammafunk: I have no idea; 2 seemed like a funny response 15:29:08 -!- Werehuman_ has quit [Client Quit] 15:29:10 come on, ballpark! 15:29:10 gammafunk: 0 ? 15:29:17 no, it's not a trick question! 15:29:19 gonna go with 100 and shrug 15:29:22 300 15:29:23 wow, terrible 15:29:24 1000 15:29:33 100.000.000 15:29:34 minmay clearly actually plays crawl 15:29:40 898 15:29:41 oh I wouldn't do that. 15:29:46 well what do you expect, these guys are devs 15:29:47 sounds pretty boring. 15:29:49 haha 15:30:08 How would we guess 898. It's not like it's related to 27. 15:30:33 reaverb: ...the point is to be as close as possible 15:30:38 not to exactly guess 898 15:30:55 as in, how good is your intuition for how much gold there is there 15:31:02 I'd have underestimated, but not 100-300 15:31:13 I'd probably have said 700 15:31:27 of course it's only 100 iterations so 15:31:46 I have no strong intuition for how often the huge gold quadrants show up. 15:32:08 !lg . br.enter=vaults 15:32:08 Unknown field: br.enter 15:32:15 !lm . br.enter=vaults 15:32:16 !lm reaverb br.enter=vaults 15:32:16 5. [2014-05-04 00:34:19] reaver the Shatterer (L18 GrBe of Trog) entered the Vaults on turn 54736. (D:13) 15:32:16 5. [2014-05-04 00:34:19] reaver the Shatterer (L18 GrBe of Trog) entered the Vaults on turn 54736. (D:13) 15:32:32 on average 27.7 piles, average quant 32.4 15:32:35 So yes not going to make a reasonable guess. 15:33:25 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:34:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:34:17 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 15:38:52 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:42:50 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:44:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:56 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:49:02 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:53:05 -!- Kramin has quit [Client Quit] 15:55:16 -!- Kramin has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:30 -!- Cerpin has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:48 -!- Kaptajn has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:05:02 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:05:35 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:06:31 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:01 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [] 16:11:25 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12:36 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:16:39 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:23:06 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:19 -!- Redz has left ##crawl-dev 16:23:19 -!- Werehuman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:29:06 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 16:29:26 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:30:07 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:33 -!- Kenran has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:32:51 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:38:15 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:45:04 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:31 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:52:02 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:56:14 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:57:16 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:57:38 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:38 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 16:57:38 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:46 -!- Zooty_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:03:54 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:03:55 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:12:04 -!- CSDCS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16:26 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19:56 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:09 -!- eb_ has quit [] 17:20:33 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:21:48 -!- CSDCS has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26:01 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:03 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26:04 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1646-g393eda0 (34) 17:26:21 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:29:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:59 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:32:38 Update layout_regular_city and add to Lair 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8720 by infiniplex 17:42:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:44:08 -!- soulfreshner has quit [Quit: soulfreshner] 17:46:01 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:49:03 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:57:55 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:00:05 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:12 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 18:01:38 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:16 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:46 Curious question; that I'd wonder if y'all had the data for. Simplest way of putting it is...how many people play crawl online everyday? ...by total log-ins, not games/deaths. 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Let me know what you think. I also uploaded three other changes, including a swap-out of the * ability. 19:53:30 Lasty_: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 19:56:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:01:15 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:02:02 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:02:26 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:02:26 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:31 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:15 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:03 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:20 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:22:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:22:23 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:28:04 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 20:39:36 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 20:45:12 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:47:47 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:07 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:49:15 -!- category has quit [Client Quit] 20:50:59 -!- Patashu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:42 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:54:42 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:02 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:58:14 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 21:09:49 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140414143035]] 21:10:17 -!- rbrrk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:14:27 -!- Tenda2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15:19 Gozag potion petition cannot be canceled 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8721 by josh 21:16:24 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:27 good bug 21:16:44 reminds me of all the suggestions on tavern to allow gozag duplication to duplicate a stack 21:18:04 average number of runes of zot generated on v:5, 1.35 <-- this makes me miss when it was ~4 :( 21:18:08 that was a good bug 21:19:58 !tell minmay messaging for ranged attacks is a mess...currently if you fire a frost bolt from a flaming xbow it says "the bolt of frost hits the foo" 21:19:58 wheals: OK, I'll let minmay know. 21:21:02 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:22:08 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:25:48 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:33:28 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:37:28 !messages 21:37:28 (1/1) wheals said (17m 30s ago): messaging for ranged attacks is a mess...currently if you fire a frost bolt from a flaming xbow it says "the bolt of frost hits the foo" 21:38:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:39 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:43:57 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49:53 -!- Tenda2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50:53 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:00:47 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:59 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:45 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:15 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:03:39 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:29 -!- Elsi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:05:33 -!- ereinion has quit [] 22:07:13 -!- Elsi has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:07 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:08:07 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:14:22 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:16:33 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19:24 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:08 -!- PsiRedEye22 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:22:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:35:33 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:36:40 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:02 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:38:32 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:48 I don't understand this change http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blobdiff;f=crawl-ref/source/fineff.cc;h=01f79533801c63432af6ecab2d0b17fbab4ecaf9;hp=51a2aeb23e42ef4a42e0f9bd7da38dd6b68b18e2;hb=f7fddc81ffbb59ea5e81037d1047461cf5ca6b94;hpb=e4f72f64e57e494f476fbdaf08798522cb1f8c49 22:41:56 shouldn't it trigger traps/etc on the new position, as in, posn, not old_pos? 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