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Then went invisible and spooked Asmodeus good. 00:11:20 such a great phrase 00:11:38 dang 00:12:09 gammafunk if you join him, your greet message could be 00:12:14 "haha time for INTEREST" 00:12:17 haha 00:12:19 indeed 00:12:55 you know it might work for a Gozag greeting as well 00:13:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:13:46 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Right now those mutations don't count for silver damage for any race. 06:10:46 Lasty_: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 06:11:05 !tell |amethyst I suppose the simple answer is to remove MUTFLAG_IASHOL from them. I should have thought of that last night. I must have been more tired than I realized. 06:11:06 Lasty_: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 06:15:07 -!- rophy has quit [Client Quit] 06:15:12 -!- rubinko__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:17:12 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:03 -!- tollymain has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:20:15 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:28:33 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:28:33 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:29:26 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:37:01 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:42 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01:22 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:02:01 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:03:44 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:13:44 !learn add lasty_to_do {iashol_to_do} 07:13:44 lasty to do[1/1]: {iashol_to_do} 07:13:50 ?? lasty_to_do 07:13:50 lasty to do[1/1]: {iashol_to_do} 07:14:04 ??iashol to do 07:14:04 iashol to do[1/1]: more clarity around sacrifice piety; acquirement; readjust skillpoint scaling; skill descs on ^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; arcane sacrifice piety is inflated 07:15:17 !learn edit iashol to do s/.*/acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks/ 07:15:17 iashol to do[1/1]: acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks 07:16:41 <|amethyst> Lasty: ohh 07:16:41 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 07:16:55 <|amethyst> Lasty: I completely missed that slow healing etc got MUTFLAG_IASHOL 07:16:57 -!- Bazzie has quit [Quit: moving to tty] 07:17:09 Yeah, I threw it on all the things that Iashol can do back when 07:17:37 including the 9 standard mutations that can be applied by purity/health/essence 07:18:06 <|amethyst> hm 07:18:12 <|amethyst> does anything actually use that flag? 07:18:17 <|amethyst> other than the code I just added 07:18:53 no -- PleasingFungus just recommended that I add it, IIRC 07:19:03 It doesn't have any other mechanical purpose 07:19:15 <|amethyst> then have two different flags 07:19:25 <|amethyst> MUTFLAG_SACRIFICE and MUTFLAG_IMPURITY or something 07:19:34 Yeah, that works 07:19:55 <|amethyst> where do you choose one of those? 07:20:03 one of which? 07:20:10 <|amethyst> slow healing, weak, etc 07:20:29 <|amethyst> for sac purity 07:20:56 Purity has 7 (slow healing, deteriorating, deformed body, shouting, weak, dopey, clumsy), and it offers one at random each time 07:21:20 Similarly for health and essence; each have 3 sacrifices, and one is randomly offered each time 07:21:26 <|amethyst> oh 07:21:42 <|amethyst> I see the big switch in offer_new_sacrifices now 07:21:44 s/3 sacrifices/3 mutaitons/ 07:21:49 but with better spelling :p 07:22:29 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23:16 But yeah, removing/switching the flag on those seems like an easy fix 07:23:21 for some reason I couldn't see it last night 07:23:21 <|amethyst> hm 07:23:26 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:23:42 <|amethyst> maybe just revert my commit 07:23:56 I think your commit it still fine as long as we change flags 07:24:11 <|amethyst> it was weird to make sacrifices count for demonspawn silver, but it's even weirder to make *some* sacrifices count 07:24:29 <|amethyst> I mean, sac purity is fine, that's supposed to be "corrupt" or such 07:24:38 oh, right -- because then the purity sacrifices would -only- count for demonspawn 07:24:40 <|amethyst> but for sac health it's more questionable 07:24:56 <|amethyst> that too 07:25:10 -that's- why I wasn't doing it last night 07:25:27 blerg 07:25:30 <|amethyst> and I completely missed that you could get normal mutations from sacrifices 07:25:46 yeah . . . 07:25:56 -!- sbuggay has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 07:26:20 So that's why I came to the conclusion last night that we need to be able to track mutation source to do this right . . . 07:26:35 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:27:14 !tell pleasingfungus +1000 to sac hand changing tile art. Tasonir already requested that same thing. 07:27:14 Lasty: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:27:21 !messages 07:27:22 (1/3) rchandra said (6h 32m 5s ago): on Iashol without a hand: blade hands messages are plural, melding "gloves", wp "blade hands", etc. 07:27:43 ??iashol_to_do 07:27:43 iashol to do[1/1]: acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks 07:28:15 !learn edit iashol_to_do s/.*/acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks;depluralize hands after sac hand (gloves, blade hands)/ 07:28:16 iashol to do[1/1]: acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks;depluralize hands after sac hand (gloves, blade hands) 07:28:27 !messages 07:28:28 (1/2) rchandra said (6h 29m 19s ago): also Dr sacrificing Durability is good 07:28:31 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:28:39 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:28:40 !messages 07:28:40 (1/1) rchandra said (6h 8m 28s ago): I think Dr/Fe/Op need to not be able to choose Durabillity, but get the bigger boost from Nimbleness 07:29:11 !tell rchandra good catch! I'll add that to my to do list. 07:29:12 Lasty: OK, I'll let rchandra know. 07:29:21 you're welcome 07:29:21 rchandra: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:29:42 !learn edit iashol_to_do s/.*/acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks;depluralize hands after sac hand (gloves, blade hands); change sac armour eligibility/ 07:29:43 iashol to do[1/1]: acquirement;skill descs on ?^ menu don't fit; mutual piety decrease on summoning & no love sacrifices; reimplement Faith; change * ability to block and redirect monster attacks;depluralize hands after sac hand (gloves, blade hands); change sac armour eligibility 07:30:17 rchandra: have you been playing a Dr on the Iashol branch? 07:30:29 does Love interact with the cataclysm? I didn't get to test that out before splatting 07:30:37 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:30:50 yeah, played a DrTm. lots of fun, a very unique piety system 07:30:59 rchandra: I never got around to adding summons to Cataclysm, so no 07:31:08 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:31:16 Sacrifice Love was sort of a good reason not to do it 07:31:54 I kind of want to play more but it's confusing going between trunk and oldertrunk 07:32:04 yeah, I know what you mean 07:32:13 I'm not sure when we last got rebased onto trunk 07:32:23 I've been too busy coding to test 07:32:33 Are we still missing the enchant weapon changes? 07:33:03 yeah 07:33:31 |amethyst: Would it be possible to rebase onto a newer version of master? 07:34:29 <|amethyst> yes, but not something I have time to work on right now 07:35:36 No worries 07:35:47 <|amethyst> As for the sacrifice mutation thing: either revert or split the flag into two or three 07:35:53 I appreciate how much time you've already put into the project 07:36:06 <|amethyst> the current situation isn't good 07:36:14 <|amethyst> (I didn't rebuild the servers yet for the change) 07:37:03 |amethyst: I think splitting the flags would be slightly less bad than the revert situation, so I'll do that after work. 07:37:22 Demonspawn will still be a little extra screwed, but less extra screwed than before 07:37:53 Maybe I can do somehting janky with properties to offset the count for demonspawn 07:39:31 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 07:43:58 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:46:21 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:50:35 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 07:54:00 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:50 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:09 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:13 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 08:11:28 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:11:42 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:13:16 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:01 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:29 bah, this function is named "attitude_creation_behavior" 08:17:38 we can't allow this kind of awful spelling 08:18:21 I hope you immediately correct it to atttiude_creaton_behaveor 08:18:24 <|amethyst> wheals: there's also an parameter to spawn_corpse_mushrooms 08:18:31 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:44 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:56 <|amethyst> att_creat_beh is clearly the best solution 08:19:18 The american toadstool attacks! 08:19:43 |amethyst: Or better yet, a_c_b() 08:20:01 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:20:05 att_creat_behaviourat 08:23:17 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:24:02 -!- johlstei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:25:08 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:03 creat_:beh: 08:31:52 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:32:29 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:47:05 -!- Elynae has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:47 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:50:23 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:44 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 08:57:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:08:45 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 09:08:53 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 09:09:24 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 09:09:35 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 09:11:34 -!- orionstein_away is now known as orionstein 09:13:09 -!- ereinion has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:16:12 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 09:17:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:10 -!- netkitten_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:19:51 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:21:11 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:21:47 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:02 -!- Euph0riaX is now known as Euph0ria 09:22:40 -!- morik___ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22:40 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:26:11 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:13 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:27:34 wow 09:27:52 monsters can apparently hit others submerged in shallow water iff they have a polearm 09:27:56 dirty cheaters 09:29:46 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:34:29 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:37:29 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:39:18 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:45:05 -!- rob__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:23 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 09:47:04 -!- rob__ is now known as mooose 09:49:53 -!- zxc2321 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:23 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:50:38 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:01 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:16 -!- puissantveil has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:55:54 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:58:26 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:58 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:18 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:02:53 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:06:17 I've been working on a scoreboard for the CSDC tournament that's been going on. I'm wondering if anyone here with general UX insight would have any critique on how to make it more useful: http://rob.pecknology.net/csdc.html 10:07:03 !seen elliptic 10:07:03 I last saw elliptic at Fri May 23 01:58:36 2014 UTC (4w 13h 8m 27s ago) quitting, saying '*.net *.split'. 10:07:12 mhm 10:08:03 -!- fleugma has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:09:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:45 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:17:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:07 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:20:52 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:09 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:16 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:24:21 do torpor slugs really have to disable swiftness? :I 10:25:03 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:26:17 after all halved movement speed is REALLY bad 10:28:13 it's not all that bad 10:30:04 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:07 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:32:39 it lasts for a good number of turns even after you leave the slug's LoS, if there's a speed 10 monster at the edge of your los wherever you teleport it'll probably catch up before your -swift ends 10:32:51 if it's closer you'll eat a lot of hits unless you kill it 10:33:05 Debuffs last rather silly amounts of time nowadays, yeah. 10:33:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:33:24 -!- Orphic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:33:33 but I'm sort of okay even with the current implementation as long as the slugs stay the hell away from lair 1-7 10:34:02 fr lair:8 hydraspam+snails endvault 10:34:18 swamp already does that 10:34:26 gastronok with a torpor snail band 10:34:45 at least it'd make gastronok not-a-free-hat 10:35:52 -!- johlstei__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:06 clearly gastronok should be a torpor snail himself 10:36:22 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36:24 with a calming gaze that really makes you want to take it easy 10:36:26 that'd work too but the cheating bastard has swiftness 10:36:27 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:36:36 can a torpor snail catch you if you try to run from it? 10:36:43 if you're speed 10 no 10:36:50 it's speed 11 relatively i think 10:36:57 o 10:37:00 oh 10:37:01 does chei have it yet 10:37:03 thats what i thought 10:37:04 my flighttengu managed to outrun it 10:37:05 so it would take a while for it to do so 10:37:08 torpor snail (03w) | Spd: 7 | HD: 12 | HP: 63-80 | AC/EV: 10/1 | Dam: 30 | amphibious | Res: 06magic(48), 12drown | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 357 | Sz: Large | Int: insect. 10:37:08 %??torpor snail 10:37:16 ??what delay 10:37:17 move delay[1/1]: Movement delays are: naga 14, human 10, flying tengu or running 9, spider or felid 8, centaur 7, spriggan or bat 6. Chei ******: add 10 to non-naga, 14 to naga. Slow or Statue form: multiply by 3/2. Haste or Berserk: multiply by 2/3. Swiftness: multiply by 3/4 or 3/2. 10:37:17 so I thought speed 10 would be the same speed 10:37:29 -!- debo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:38:01 !calc 100.0 / 15.0 10:38:01 6.67 10:38:05 technically 10*(2/3) is 6.67 10:38:11 !calc 7 / 6.67 10:38:11 1.05 10:38:23 so actually speed 10.5 to you 10:38:26 so it would be slightly faster than you 10:38:39 that's what i said, it's relatively speed 11 10:38:43 or actually 10.5 10:39:19 -!- ckyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:21 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:39:34 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:28 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:05 %git ncourage 10:46:05 Could not find commit ncourage (git returned 128) 10:46:06 PleasingFungus: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:46:09 %git :/ncourage 10:46:15 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1427-g2cf4829: Merge branch 'mon-pickup' 10(9 days ago, files, + -) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cf482924524 10:46:33 rip beogh speedruns 10:46:43 !send Bloax 939d0b4 10:46:44 Sending 939d0b4 to Bloax. 10:48:10 Kvaak: swiftness is disabled mainly because I wanted to re-use the existing -swift code. I discovered yesterday that it messes up the messaging (hit @ while -swift'd by a torpor snail), so I may end up switching to Slow after all, as gammafunk wanted from the start 10:48:17 in which case casting swiftness would be allowed! 10:48:18 poor skilled korean players of beogh 10:48:20 :) 10:48:24 hurray! 10:48:37 also you'd have slowed actions in addition to slow movement, but people like that, right? 10:48:39 right. 10:49:00 well isn't slow movement faster than -swift movement 10:49:15 ??slow 10:49:15 slow[1/3]: A status effect that makes you take 50% (100% prior to 0.8) more time to take any action. 10:49:19 oh wait that's 0.14 I think 10:49:22 "no" 10:49:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:49:48 never mind I am being dumb again 10:50:11 but at least I get to cast swiftness! 10:50:21 PleasingFungus: <3 10:51:11 they're friends :) 10:51:38 !messages 10:51:38 No messages for TZer0. 10:51:45 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:54:15 is the slow from a torpor snail resistable by MR? 10:54:28 no 10:54:32 rip 10:54:32 rip 10:54:43 rip 10:56:18 Save macros? 10:56:49 mooose: replied 10:59:00 nah 11:06:37 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140606030206]] 11:08:04 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:10:04 -!- fuuu has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:25:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:00 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:38 man 11:31:50 people keep missing the point of my thread in GDD 11:31:51 :( 11:35:14 that's what you get for drunkposting 11:35:47 i made the first thread before I had any 11:35:52 but people keep missing the dang point 11:37:53 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:41:29 PleasingFungus: have you tried out one of the simple changes i want in crawl 11:48:18 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:51:20 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:55 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.] 11:53:20 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:55:45 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 12:00:15 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:44 tabstorm's drunk? it's time for INTEREST! 12:02:06 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:06:50 Bloax: is it Bloax's Regeneration Special Delight 12:06:57 yes 12:07:00 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1631-g98db9bb (34) 12:08:18 nah 12:08:51 then go ahead and do it 12:11:02 mm. I have two problems with bloax's special high-speed universal-troll regeneration dish. 12:11:15 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:11:58 there are two reasons for the change, as I understand it. one is to reduce the number of times the player has to hit "5" when resting at high max HP. this is an interface problem, and probably can be handled there without changing mechanics. 12:12:18 the second is to make the game easier. that is not something that I personally feel is necessary. 12:13:18 well resting isn't instantaneous unless your settings make it so 12:13:35 and the difficulty hit is very small 12:13:53 unless of course we're talking about reducing the strain on your patience making the game easier is a bad thing 12:14:09 didn't you flat-out double the base regeneration rate across the board? 12:14:14 or, no 12:14:15 you added a +20 12:14:17 I remember 12:14:43 it's 10+maxhp/3 instead of maxhp/3 >= 20 ? 10+maxhp/6 : maxhp/3 12:14:46 ah, 10 12:14:50 mm 12:15:05 if your problem is that "resting isn't instantaneous unless your settings make it so" 12:15:06 I mean 12:15:12 this seems like a problem with a very simple solution 12:15:24 which doesn't involve tinkering with core game mechanics 12:15:57 there's more to resting being soulcrushing than it eating a lot of time 12:16:10 yeah it's probably just a bad solution. I think in terms of annoyances, regen at low max hp or high max hp are low on the priority list, but there are probably better solutions out there that don't make the game easier 12:16:31 like the constant stream of YOU ARE HUNGRY due to how long it takes and all the interruptions from said duration 12:17:08 good thing we have a branch where we're changing hunger 12:18:06 if you implement TS-hunger it will bring you happiness :) 12:18:23 think of it gammafunk, no more needing gourmand 12:18:24 TS hunger is a bit extreme, but that proposal was discussed on CRD 12:18:37 similar idea you mean yea? 12:18:37 tabstorm: and you forgot to mention sif channel along with zerk 12:18:50 o shit i tried to forget she existed lol 12:18:51 well the idea of no hunger cost for god abilities, spells, yes 12:18:55 good call ill edit that in 12:19:18 what were the objections? 12:19:26 forgetting that one of the best gods exists? sorry about your inoperable brain tumour 12:19:47 one of the most boring gods, you mean 12:19:59 boring is definitely not subjective 12:20:06 absolutely not 12:20:14 if by best you mean weakest beneficial god then yes 12:20:14 fwiw, I agree that "a clock that keeps players moving" cannot really coexist with "a cost for abilities". my personal feeling would be to separate ability/spell costs into some separate resource limit, rather than trying to remove them entirely 12:20:25 tabstorm: now that claim is very silly 12:21:07 Is it really needed to limit spells with extra-tactical costs? 12:21:15 I don't think so but you guys might obv. 12:21:59 well possibly not, but maybe in some cases. In any case it's too large and impactful a change to pursue initially 12:22:20 we basically have to look at every single thing that has a hunger cost, evaluate it, and possibly come up with a replacement cost 12:22:38 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:23:12 I do think in the vast majority of cases the answer would be no additional cost, but those that do need another cost will require some serious thought 12:24:00 hunger works quite well for sif channel, for instance, although it is possible that no cost even for that could work 12:24:06 well 12:24:13 lets say sif channeling had no hunger 12:24:28 would the problem be encouraging the player to channel to full mp? 12:24:40 its no different now than encouraging resting up after every fight 12:24:52 but at least youre not HUNGRY constantly 12:25:10 i guess you sacrifice some danger since less turns are spent 12:26:54 yeah, in any case at first we're just going to try keeping these costs and making food actually relevant. Maybe we'll playtest a "no-food-cost" branch after we get to that point 12:27:25 for the record then the decrease in difficulty is negligible right off the bat and increasingly nonexistent as the game progresses 12:27:37 for zerk ,is the danger of post-zerk slow enough to prevent a player from using it every fight? 12:27:50 yes 12:28:06 I only have one trog win, but from that and from what I've seen, it certainly seems to be the case 12:28:09 though, you could limit a few abiltiies if you want by hunger, if the food count was reduced greatly, it would be a more meaningful restriction 12:28:16 yes, perhaps 12:28:41 in the end I will listen to any ideas you all have and take full credit for them in my commits 12:29:19 because having better git stats than PleasingFungus and reaverb are what's important here 12:29:21 haha 12:30:02 the easiest way to cease my incessant stream of words is just by playing with it and posting your thoughts on the difference it makes 12:31:23 yes it is 12:31:33 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31:45 post zerk slow can fuck you 12:31:50 if you do it badly 12:32:11 (especially since it takes like thirty seconds to edit the three lines of code the change is and launch a recompiliation) 12:32:46 oh, the value of the change is definitely determined by its line count. Just look at godzilla's short and elegant randgod patch, for example 12:33:35 Bloax: please do not threaten to nag me. that is a very short-sighted idea 12:35:26 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 12:36:35 I mean a 1/128 chance of a god doing nothing at all (my math might be wrong), randgod indeed 12:36:49 it's the gab between developer and player 12:38:26 the gap of the player always being wrong and refusing to even think about what he is saying for he is wrong and you are right 12:39:32 no, I mean the *gab* 12:40:07 !bug 8684 12:40:07 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8684 12:40:35 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 12:41:32 funny as it is "gab" between the developer and the player is a real thing 12:41:54 except it's not exactly the same as a gap 12:49:24 -!- netkitten_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:13 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:56:36 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:23 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:00:17 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:05:16 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:12:43 -!- ChangeAj has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:10 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:36 Merc Demonspawn is always monstrous 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8715 by Roarke 13:25:29 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26:11 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:33 -!- Adder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:26:57 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 13:29:12 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:04 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 13:43:25 bmfx (L20 DsWz) ASSERT(in_diamond_int(r->start)) in 'ray.cc' at line 166 failed. (Spider:5) 13:46:52 <|amethyst> sigh 13:46:57 <|amethyst> !crashlog bmfx 13:46:58 19. bmfx, XL20 DsWz, T:53269 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/bmfx/crash-bmfx-20140620-184322.txt 13:49:01 <|amethyst> yes, reproducible from (55, 22) 13:49:09 oh hey this looks familiar 13:49:12 <|amethyst> yeah 13:49:20 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:49:32 <|amethyst> %git df1f37 13:49:32 Could not find commit df1f37 (git returned 128) 13:49:39 <|amethyst> %git df1f371 13:49:52 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-1512-gdf1f371: Round more vigorously in ray code. 10(6 days ago, 2 files, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df1f371a6ddd 13:49:55 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:06 <|amethyst> oh, this one was introduced by my change :( 13:51:22 <|amethyst> I guess it rounds too much now... 13:51:25 huh, those are two different numbers of zeros 13:51:46 I guess that's intentional 13:56:59 Such vigorous rounding! 14:01:33 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:03:29 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 14:06:18 PleasingFungus: is it deliberate that your beogh refactor makes forced wizmode blessing fail a bunch? 14:06:42 MarvinPA: not really, no 14:06:43 i guess it's useful for seeing frequency of blessing types but annoying for seeing results of blessings 14:07:04 hm 14:07:06 %git :/efactor 14:07:07 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1586-gc530747: Refactor Beogh/TSO blessing code 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 247+ 194-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c530747fc020 14:07:15 oh right the diff is horrifying 14:07:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:07:23 previously it had a coinflip chance of choosing each type of blessing i think, for forced blessings 14:07:46 I don't think so 14:08:13 look through the diff, search around for "force"; mostly it just does debug prints 14:09:00 the only thing it ever forced was blessing guys who weren't actually followers 14:09:02 i'm relatively sure it didn't used to fall through to healing all the time, i might be wrong i guess 14:09:18 oh shit no I'm wrong 14:09:20 I missed that line 14:09:22 mm 14:10:06 well, I can fix that when I get back, or you can fix it now; it's a simple change 14:11:29 !source religion.cc:2135 14:11:30 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/religion.cc;hb=HEAD#l2135 14:11:48 change this to "force || one_chance_in(10)" 14:12:30 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:40 and the next if, I guess, on 2145 14:12:54 blessing.empty() && (force || one_chance_in(7)) 14:14:06 aha cool, i can do that in a sec 14:18:07 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:06 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:21:48 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:41 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:28:38 Wyrmbane doesn't upgrade when killing dragons with its bonus damage 13https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8716 by MarvinPA 14:29:21 -!- Kvaak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:37 -!- Kvaak has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:27 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: what about adding mondied = defender->alive() after that hurt() call 14:31:42 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: err, mondied = !defender->alive(); rather 14:32:06 oh yeah, that would do it 14:32:08 |amethyst: I did this last night 14:32:10 it didn't seem to work 14:32:13 I don't understand why 14:32:18 <|amethyst> hm 14:32:18 just wanted to make sure it wasn't forgotten about 14:32:31 <|amethyst> ohh 14:32:34 ? 14:32:42 <|amethyst> because dying makes is_dragonkind false 14:32:48 hahaha 14:32:49 <|amethyst> need to put that into a const first 14:32:52 nice 14:33:03 <|amethyst> hm 14:33:21 <|amethyst> might mess with some of the flags too 14:33:44 <|amethyst> let me see 14:34:51 PleasingFungus: oh also, were you working on the beogh ammo gift thing by any chance? i probably should have checked this before messing with it myself really 14:35:00 I have not 14:35:13 you have my blessing 14:35:14 so to speak 14:36:19 i have it "working" but that's the easy bit i guess, no clue on how often to attempt to do it 14:36:23 mm 14:36:45 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:38:14 you could model it sort of on oka/trog ammo gifts; those are worth less than normal gifts in terms of piety clock, right? you could set up some kind of ratio based on that... possibly changing piety_breakpoint(2) checks in mon-death.cc to piety_breakpoint(1) & then readjusting the odds, if you're worried about cutting into the number of healings 14:39:38 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:42:24 mm, not sure how relevant healings are 14:43:15 might be fine to just cut into that a bit since not all monsters will even have launchers 14:43:44 true 14:44:05 gammafunk was saying I needed to play an orc jesus game and see how it actually works now 14:44:06 which seems fair 14:44:17 someone certainly needs to 14:45:11 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140414143035]] 14:45:34 *someone* should actually *play* this game we're developing at *some* point 14:45:36 but not me 14:46:18 i did a new nemelex game, then realised i could do orbrun zigs on my cdo naga instead of anything else productive 14:46:48 beogh is my plan for after i die doing that though :P 14:46:49 was the cdo naga of nem? 14:47:00 It was of everything. 14:47:09 imo splat the naga in the most absurd way possible 14:47:10 pretty much yeah :P 14:47:13 haha 14:47:23 good thing we made orbrun zigs work! 14:47:25 GOD_EVERY_GOD 14:47:33 we as in I!!! 14:47:35 i can't get into my stash to splat in stylish unrand kit :( 14:47:49 as if I'd give someone credit for things 14:47:57 but i think orbrun zig will probably throw up something suitably absurd eventually 14:48:23 imho try to get every god wrath 14:48:30 Your body is wracked with pain! x27 Something smites you! You die... 14:48:39 yeah I set up a wizmode char with conj/summons and got to like zig:20 or 21 before splatting 14:48:46 and I think that death was pretty avoidable 14:48:52 why bother with smite when you can have hellfire 14:48:52 orb run zig I mean 14:48:55 PleasingFungus: the problem with that is i have to scum abyss for altars for the three gods that don't even exist in my temple :P 14:49:05 dang............ 14:49:09 (since they did not exist when the game started) 14:49:23 wait, how old is this naga? 14:49:31 !lm marvinpa cdo alive 1 14:49:32 1/604. [2013-10-06 17:02:37] MarvinPA the Farming Plane Slider (L27 NaEE of Ashenzari) entered a Ziggurat on turn 680015. (Pan) 14:49:39 "quite old" 14:49:40 ...it's older than that!!! 14:49:53 MarvinPA: hmm, might be interesting to try to retrofit new gods into old games ... 14:49:53 !lm marvinpa cdo alive x=gid 1 14:49:54 1/604. [2013-10-06 17:02:37] [game_key=MarvinPA:cdo:20130118213330S] MarvinPA the Farming Plane Slider (L27 NaEE of Ashenzari) entered a Ziggurat on turn 680015. (Pan) 14:50:04 though maybe in the chinese curse sort of way 14:50:08 !lm marvinpa gid=game_key=MarvinPA:cdo:20130118213330S 1 14:50:09 No milestones for marvinpa (gid=game_key=MarvinPA:cdo:20130118213330S). 14:50:12 er 14:50:16 !lm marvinpa gid=MarvinPA:cdo:20130118213330S 1 14:50:17 1/1724. [2013-02-18 21:36:05] MarvinPA the Digger (L3 NaEE of Vehumet) became a worshipper of Vehumet on turn 1061. (D:2) 14:50:21 there 14:50:28 nice 14:50:28 you can't use x=start? 14:50:54 !lm marvinpa cdo alive 14:50:55 604. [2014-06-19 20:25:28] MarvinPA the Farming Plane Slider (L27 NaEE of Ashenzari) left a Ziggurat at level 27 on turn 863671. (Zig:27) 14:50:59 !lm marvinpa cdo alive x=start 14:51:00 604. [2014-06-19 20:25:28] [start=2013-02-18 21:33:30 [20130118213330S]] MarvinPA the Farming Plane Slider (L27 NaEE of Ashenzari) left a Ziggurat at level 27 on turn 863671. (Zig:27) 14:51:07 yeah 14:51:07 doesn't [game_key=MarvinPA:cdo:20130118213330S] itself reveal when the game startted? 14:51:16 it does indeed 14:51:38 <_< 14:51:39 >_> 14:51:45 >_< 14:51:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:38 why is it 0112 though 14:52:46 er 0118 14:53:15 it looks like a number of second? ms? since the start of the year 14:53:20 0118213330S 14:53:32 PleasingFungus: look at the start time 14:53:48 2013-02-18 21:33:30 14:53:50 oh 14:53:52 but 14:53:55 hm 14:54:01 so what's the 01 14:54:05 <|amethyst> february 14:54:08 ctime silliness 14:54:10 <|amethyst> yay unix 14:54:12 yeah dunno why the month seems to be offset like that 14:54:13 ther month is 0-based 14:54:25 rip 14:54:34 (see gmtime(), localtime(), struct tm) 14:54:40 months, but not days, no sir 14:54:50 yep 14:55:01 struct tm is kinda weird 14:56:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:57:17 struct tm peculiarities are also the real reason behind "19100" 14:58:00 well, half of it, the other half is lazy programmers only half-grokking how that works in practice :) 14:58:02 heh, I've never heard of the y2k thing manifesting in that way 14:58:45 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:59:42 -!- truemonolith has quit [Ping timeout: 251 seconds] 15:02:51 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:15 <|amethyst> %d ... 1900+n is so much more typing than 19%d ... n 15:04:04