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##crawl-dev 09:04:02 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:34 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 09:10:20 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:10:54 !crashlog ghwc 09:10:55 4. ghwc, XL22 MiFi, T:53019 (milestone): http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/ghwc/crash-ghwc-20140613-084251.txt 09:11:00 !crashlog Genou 09:11:01 1. Genou, XL27 DsFi, T:61796 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Genou/crash-Genou-20140613-083006.txt 09:11:57 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:14:48 !lm genou crash -tv 09:14:48 1. Genou, XL27 DsFi, T:61796 (milestone) requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 09:14:53 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:02 -!- brainwrinkle has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:16:43 that was not very enlightening 09:20:37 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23:14 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:59 -!- umrain_0 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:28:00 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:48 <|amethyst> genou's crash item is on Slime:6 09:28:57 <|amethyst> (gdb) p item 09:28:57 <|amethyst> $1 = (const item_def &) @0x7fffa9225820: {base_type = OBJ_UNASSIGNED, 09:28:57 <|amethyst> sub_type = 250 '\372', {plus = 250, mon_type = MONS_TROLL}, plus2 = 250, 09:28:57 <|amethyst> special = 0, colour = 0 '\000', rnd = 0 '\000', quantity = 1, 09:28:57 <|amethyst> flags = 671096847, pos = {x = 41, y = 29}, link = 27000, slot = 0, 09:28:59 <|amethyst> orig_place = 2566, orig_monnum = 0, inscription = { 09:29:02 <|amethyst> static npos = , 09:29:04 <|amethyst> _M_dataplus = {> = {<__gnu_cxx::new_allocator> = {}, }, _M_p = 0xebb1d8 ""}}, props = { 09:29:08 <|amethyst> hash_map = 0x2cd3240}} 09:30:26 <|amethyst> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/saves/Genou.cs 09:31:22 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:33:13 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:33:24 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:35:36 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1474-g7030879: Simplify, and correct some messages. 10(7 minutes ago, 3 files, 15+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7030879d1fdf 09:38:03 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:59 -!- Amuys has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:51:12 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:57:08 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:45 !seen dpeg 10:02:45 I last saw dpeg at Fri Jun 13 13:41:13 2014 UTC (1h 21m 32s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 10:03:20 -!- liquidsnake has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:04:05 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:04:12 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 10:04:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:12 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:11:24 shouldn't the dummy dragon monster hav Z_NOZOMBIE? 10:11:34 i was wondering why i had seen 'dragon zombie's 10:13:02 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:13:26 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 10:13:45 <|amethyst> NO_ZOMBIE doesn't mean "don't generate derived undead" 10:14:15 <|amethyst> I guess maybe if it's combined with M_NO_SKELETON 10:14:18 maybe it means that but it doesn't seem to _do_ that 10:14:29 <|amethyst> oh 10:14:30 isn't there M_NO_GEN_DERIVED? 10:14:49 <|amethyst> you said Z_NOZOMBIE, not M_NO_ZOMBIE 10:15:29 MONS_BEAR doesn't have M_NO_ZOMBIE and i don't think i've ever seen a 'bear zombie' 10:15:51 <|amethyst> what about demigod zombies? 10:16:10 !lg * killer=demigod_zombie 10:16:10 No games for * (killer=demigod_zombie). 10:16:22 no idea, really 10:16:35 could grep every recent morgue for monster list :) 10:17:14 i wouldn't really expect M_NO_POLY_TO to mean no random zombies 10:19:35 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140606030206]] 10:20:45 iirc no_gen_derived doesn't actually work 10:20:53 !bug 8457 10:20:54 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8457 10:21:04 it seems like M_NO_ZOMBIE is for normal monsters that you just can't make a zombie out of 10:21:18 <|amethyst> wheals: yeah 10:21:34 like 'n's 10:21:52 just 'n's and shapeshifters have it apparently 10:22:19 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: which sounds like it's not going through zombie_picker::veto 10:22:20 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: actually 10:22:35 yeah, i tried to figure out the veto code and failed 10:22:36 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: maybe it's checking the veto on the random monster type? 10:22:40 maybe CANT_SPAWN is good enough for genus monsters 10:23:20 except no, MONS_DRAGON has it 10:23:22 i thought CANT_SPAWN does work? although if you've seen a dragon zombie then maybe not 10:23:36 i'm pretty sure i have, at least 10:23:42 <|amethyst> the zombie picking code doesn't seem to look at CANT_SPAWN at all 10:23:43 !log . br.end=crypt 10:23:43 Unknown field: br.end 10:23:51 <|amethyst> or at least the veto doesn't 10:23:56 !lm. br.end=crypt -lg:log 10:24:05 !lm . br.end=crypt -log 10:24:05 wheals, XL27 VSCK, T:74983: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20140516-010034.txt 10:24:26 !lm . br.end=crypt -log -2 10:24:28 wheals, XL25 DgWn, T:95393: http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/wheals/morgue-wheals-20140507-183014.txt 10:24:52 maybe i'm just imagining this :/ 10:24:57 <|amethyst> you can certainly make a dragon zombie (unlike a dragon) with &m 10:25:00 <|amethyst> err, &M 10:26:19 i've definitely noticed siren/ugly thing zombies and not dummy monster zombies when playing, but i've been vaguely paying attention for the former and not the latter 10:26:58 and it's been a while since i've been in crypt 10:27:21 <|amethyst> Z_NOZOMBIE would definitely prevent it though 10:27:44 <|amethyst> I don't think you could give that to elephant slugs though 10:27:54 <|amethyst> since a monster (Gastronok) exists with that species 10:36:56 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:45 just make gastronok a worm 10:38:25 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:55 haha nice 10:46:03 mon-data.h uses both grey and gray 10:46:41 looks like i can blame grunt for the gray? 10:46:44 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 10:59:23 wheals: is there some occasion on which you cannot blame grunt 10:59:38 well, i can't blame him for the grey 11:03:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:03:50 pfft 11:03:53 not trying hard enough 11:05:37 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:06:49 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1475-gfb6485e: Make a macro for dummy genus monsters, and use it in most cases. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 27+ 103-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb6485e608f0 11:08:30 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:08:49 why don't we have hopping vampires yet 11:10:03 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:10:08 <|amethyst> Eronarn: we do 11:10:11 jiangshi (08V) | Spd: 18 (move: 60%) | HD: 10 | HP: 49-81 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 2705(vampiric), 2705(vampiric) | 07undead, fighter, evil, sense invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1070 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 11:10:11 <|amethyst> %??jiangshi 11:10:41 they don't actually hop tho 11:10:52 <|amethyst> Eronarn: they have sixfirhy-style movement 11:11:13 %%red devil name:vampire n_rpl 11:11:21 vampire (054) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 22-40 | AC/EV: 7/13 | Dam: 19 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(65), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 12cold, 08holy++ | XP: 319 | Sp: special move | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 11:11:21 %??red devil name:vampire n_rpl 11:11:44 !learn set grunt[2] is there some occasion on which you cannot blame grunt 11:11:45 grunt[2/12]: is there some occasion on which you cannot blame grunt 11:12:00 * PleasingFungus grunts. 11:12:14 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 11:12:14 as fungi often do 11:12:17 <|amethyst> Eronarn: they don't hop like a rabbit; they hop like someone with paralyzed joints 11:12:34 i think someone with paralyzed joints mostly just falls over 11:13:07 <|amethyst> also, dead people don't move around at all 11:13:14 <|amethyst> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangshi#Appearance 11:13:19 wow that will make crypt much easier 11:13:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:13:40 rename everything "curse skull" 11:13:57 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:14:24 <|amethyst> can we rename hungry ghosts to "egui" or "preta" 11:14:25 <|amethyst> ? 11:15:15 peckish ghosts 11:15:19 -!- Bcadren_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:22:48 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:27:50 ...huh, malign can delete shallow water 11:31:56 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 11:34:16 <|amethyst> yeah, should maybe set a terrain change marker instead of just replacing the feature 11:35:16 <|amethyst> actually 11:35:25 <|amethyst> could just store that in the existing gateway marker 11:37:42 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:38:24 <|amethyst> hm, but might have to be a little careful to look up the real underlying feature and not temp terrain changes 11:41:33 case CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME: 11:41:33 which_colour = ETC_ELECTRICITY; 11:41:36 O.o 11:42:25 <|amethyst> lightcyan/lightblue/cyan 11:42:28 <|amethyst> seems reasonable 11:42:43 -!- doubtofbuddha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:42:46 also why does ghostly flame have special chances to summon anacondas/turtles/hydrae... 11:42:55 did revenants make a pact with the Turtle God 11:43:06 <|amethyst> ? 11:43:19 !source _handle_ghostly_flame 11:43:20 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/cloud.cc;hb=HEAD#l306 11:44:34 well 11:44:37 anacondas are usually funny 11:45:07 <|amethyst> rock worm was originally on that list too 11:47:37 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:48:56 <|amethyst> wheals: I guess you were investigating the bad zombies further? because that pick_random_zombie call (and the function) looks suspicious 11:49:10 <|amethyst> granted, it would give you spectral things, not zombies 11:49:13 no, i'm jut working on a monster that uses ghostly flame 11:50:01 <|amethyst> ah 11:50:14 -!- qpzil has quit [Quit: qpzil] 11:51:42 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:58:05 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:10:09 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1475-gfb6485e (34) 12:10:38 -!- Pepe has quit [Quit: rebuttal] 12:12:54 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 12:13:12 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15:22 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:10 -!- Fenri has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:30:30 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: have you seen siren and ugly thing zombies outside of Crypt? 12:45:03 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:48:20 -!- Bcadren_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:10 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:55 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:50:04 hmm, i don't recall 12:50:42 but possibly not, i think when i was testing for it locally i was doing place:crypt zombie or something 12:51:31 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:06 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: hm, so this might not fix the problem completely 12:52:21 so avg just forced me to delete my irc client 12:52:21 wheals: I'm curious about this monster you're working on. 12:52:29 o_O 12:52:44 (AVG is the real monster?) 12:52:54 Grunt: ghost crabs! 12:53:01 ah i can get siren zombies with &Mplace:Shoals:1 zombi 12:53:01 e actually 12:53:02 <|amethyst> because the problem I found would only affect the zombies/skeletons created at level-gen, not AFAICT ones with place: 12:53:10 wow how did the linebreak go there 12:53:10 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: hm 12:53:22 hm 12:53:25 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: okay, so this is something else 12:54:04 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:54:16 Grunt: this is what i have so far: http://pastebin.ca/2807091 12:54:45 mostly i just need to make them spawn -- probably Crypt, Tar, and some vaults 12:55:22 and make a badtile 12:55:25 wheals: imo put the 35 enums with the other crabs 12:55:36 I can do a badtile!!! >_> 12:55:40 i did, with fire crab at least 12:55:45 (maybe later when this is almost done) 12:55:51 apoc is separate from fire in enum.h 12:56:11 hm 12:56:17 Maybe they should be together. 12:56:29 maybe, apoc is with other abyssals though 12:56:36 (fr MH_ELDRITCH???) 12:56:36 I have to ask: what will this do that a revenant doesn't? 12:56:45 i like the implication that crabs are some kind of legendary species like dragons that all have terrifying breaths 12:56:54 it's alive, for one thing 12:56:57 MarvinPA: imo storm crab 12:57:17 also slightly more melee-oriented, at least it seemed a bit tough 12:57:32 spiny crab that breathes acid fog 12:57:37 hm maybe it could also breathe negative energy!!! 12:57:45 (for the complete rod of clouds set) 12:58:00 it's also the only rn+++ monster with rpois- 12:58:02 probably 12:58:29 I'd love to do a "death scarab" for tomb, but I don't really have any single good idea for it aside from "fast and af_drain melee" 12:58:51 I would expect vampiric melee for a scarab. 12:59:01 seems reasonable 12:59:02 Maybe it's both, like spiny worms had both acid and poison! 12:59:17 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:24 it's just not much different from the other crypt stuff like jiangshi 12:59:35 Make them batty and come in green rat sized packs. 12:59:41 Tomb harpies. 12:59:44 AF_VAMPIRIC AF_DRAIN_XP AF_DRAIN_STATS AF_DRAIN_SPEED 12:59:45 heh 12:59:48 for the whole set 13:00:10 oh, what do spriggan riders ride now 13:00:13 Give them AF_ROT because they're eating your flesh!!! 13:00:19 vampire mosquitos 13:00:24 "MR_VUL_POISON, // the mount" sounds not accurate then 13:00:27 but the tile still shows a firefly? 13:00:32 at least that's what I saw in a game 13:00:56 ...make them leave a single miasma cloud on death 13:01:12 Grunt: that sounds familiar... 13:01:23 The death scarab degenerates into foul pestilence. 13:01:36 gammafunk: in the chaos spawn sense, not the plague shambler sense :) 13:01:40 mummy riders 13:01:40 also spriggan riders wearing cekugob and a buckler of rN+ are the other rN+++ monsters with rPois- until that gets fixed i guess 13:01:59 ooh have them trail miasma 13:02:02 they're guardian mummies riding the death scarab 13:02:15 the old egyptian west 13:02:28 Batty monsters with cloud trails... good area denial technique. 13:02:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:38 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 13:03:12 Also clearly one or the other mummies would get a spell to summon packs of these in lieu of the boring undead summoning. 13:03:17 -!- MgDark has quit [Client Quit] 13:03:34 reaaaallly liking this scarab swarm idea 13:03:40 also i guess you can poison spriggan riders and then you end up with a poisoned vampire mosquito 13:03:50 this holiness-mixing thing is sort of weird 13:03:56 MarvinPA: you can also vampiric drain spriggan riders! 13:04:01 fire crab (04t) | Spd: 10 | HD: 8 | HP: 38-65 | AC/EV: 9/6 | Dam: 1504(fire:8-15), 1504(fire:8-15) | !sil | Res: 06magic(42), 04fire+++ | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison+07contam | XP: 780 | Sp: b.flame (d12) | Sz: small | Int: insect. 13:04:01 %??fire crab 13:04:11 |amethyst: b.flame seems a bit weird 13:04:23 though maybe they really do do only d12 impact damage 13:04:53 yeah that sounds like the impact damage 13:07:27 -!- eb has quit [] 13:07:30 breath of flame, clearly 13:07:55 oh i guess it 13:08:00 it's breathe flame, yeah 13:10:41 -!- Zifmia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:14:16 <|amethyst> oh, hm 13:15:46 are there any other enchantments other than poison that living monsters can get but undead can't? rot i guess 13:16:14 maybe riders should just ride wasps like whoever suggested yesterday 13:16:23 sounds fine 13:17:05 -!- boaby has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:18:11 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:14 bear riders 13:18:49 wasps sound hilariously brutal 13:18:51 as mounts 13:19:08 giant bees might be more in line with the old firefly mount threat level 13:19:12 killer bees? 13:19:15 I forget the name 13:19:21 fire crab riders 13:19:58 mounted merfolk would be pretty cool 13:20:04 riding flying sharks 13:20:16 yellow wasps would be reasonable enough i think 13:20:52 also bees are overused, wasps are fun 13:21:11 giant firefly (12y) | Spd: 16 | HD: 7 | HP: 22-40 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 17 | fly | Res: 06magic(65) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 304 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 13:21:11 %??giant firefly 13:21:15 yellow wasp (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-31 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 1304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(16) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 126 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 13:21:15 %??yellow wasp 13:21:21 also then spriggans can die because of wasps 13:21:28 *drown 13:21:35 just like old times 13:22:19 if you kill every player, don't blame me!!!! 13:22:28 rip all players. killed by wasps 13:22:37 well wasps are also a threat that exists in swamp already 13:23:11 yeah that's why i chose mosquitoes 13:23:25 also because evil spriggans are funny 13:23:40 yeah, spriggan riders aren't so common that using wasps will be that big of a deal, I think 13:23:44 I guess between mosquitos and wasps I'd choose wasps, just because of the holiness issues 13:24:12 vampire mosquitos are already quite common in swamp 13:24:16 and I guess you already run into them when fighting shambling mangroves, which is a similar context (you're probably already injured or otherwise weakened) 13:24:36 so that's reasonable 13:25:37 whoever shortened crypt seems to have forgotten to give it an ood cap of 5 still? 13:25:44 red wasp (05y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 8 | HP: 30-57 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Dam: 2304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(32) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 544 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 13:25:44 %??red_wasp 13:26:02 gammafunk: also notable that their paralysis is better than yellow wasps' 13:26:06 since it looks like aliches can't spawn at all now maybe 13:26:12 hm? 13:26:13 or do i not understand how this works 13:26:41 gammafunk: it's more likely to paralyze the player, if you look in the AF_PARALYZE code 13:26:55 I forget the odds 13:26:57 yeah, I'm just not sure why you're telling me this :p 13:27:00 o 13:27:04 well, I mean, you were looking at stats 13:27:14 so it's like "here is a reminder of a relevant stat not displayed in chei" 13:27:16 yeah I just wanted to see the hd/hp differences 13:27:27 k 13:27:31 23(superparalyse) 13:30:31 Grunt: i just thought of one significant way crabs are different from revenants, they can throw flame at you when there's a silent spectre around 13:32:59 Also doesn't revenant flame heal some stuff? 13:33:11 the fireball does, but the crabs won't 13:33:17 since they don't have the fireball 13:33:18 Yeah 13:39:56 God, I wish ancient liches couldn't spawn any more. They're everywhere in the abyss. 13:40:08 well, i just meant in Crypt 13:40:13 and of course vaults place them lots 13:40:37 but i'm not an expert in how monster picking works 13:40:49 Seriously, are they special cased to always spawn in the abyss? I'm pretty sure I run into at least one every trip to the abyss. 13:41:16 they're scumming it for xp 13:41:24 after having learned necromutation 13:42:22 that would be ordinary liches I think 13:42:28 ancient liches are already all 27 13:42:53 all skills at 27? 13:42:54 cheaters 13:43:07 ??monsters[2] 13:43:07 monsters[2/3]: dirty cheaters 13:43:39 The ancient lich feels omnipotent. 13:44:23 You squash the ancient lich like a bug!!!!! 13:46:37 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 13:49:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1476-gc271eae: Make spriggan riders ride wasps instead of mosquitos 10(23 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c271eae8558a 13:50:03 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:50:45 ...fly_died? 13:51:02 someone had a funny sense of variable naming humor at some point 13:52:14 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:35 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:55:21 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:55:24 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:56:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 13:56:46 looks like my image editor doesn't support transparency in .pngs 13:56:56 tbf it is 16 years old 13:57:34 what is it 13:57:57 Corel Photo-paint 8 13:58:49 interesting 13:59:12 i should probably just install paint.net 13:59:12 Because Jasc paintshop pro 7.(something) did support it. 13:59:14 but yes 13:59:39 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:22 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1477-g474e196: Respect M_NO_GEN_DERIVED in a few more places. 10(70 minutes ago, 2 files, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=474e196d370d 14:05:24 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: this doesn't fix the problem you noticed with place:Shoals:1 zombie 14:05:40 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: but it should help in Crypt and ghostly flame 14:06:41 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:07:56 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:13:56 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:21:28 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:45 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 14:24:42 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25:57 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:26:10 -!- category has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:27:00 -!- RollieTG has quit [Client Quit] 14:34:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:03 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1478-g5438851: Ghost crabs (PleasingFungus, floatingatoll). 10(86 minutes ago, 9 files, 44+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5438851da1b9 14:37:24 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:37:35 oh man I deserve like no credit for that one 14:37:38 thank you, though, wheals! 14:38:44 it's not credit, it's blame 14:38:54 now people can get angry at you when they die to them! 14:39:11 I am okay with that 14:40:17 Does rF+ resist ghostly flame? Or does rN+? Or nothing? 14:41:00 rn+++ and rPois- 14:41:02 rN+, iirc 14:41:08 ghost crab 14:41:08 or some rN level 14:41:10 not rF 14:41:13 oh I see 14:41:19 sorry misread 14:41:21 :) 14:42:35 Ah, yeah, you.res_negative_energy() is used 14:43:04 hm 14:43:19 I'm not sure it's actually resistable 14:43:35 !source _actor_cloud_resist 14:43:36 It's in check_your_resists() in ouch.cc 14:43:37 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/cloud.cc;hb=HEAD#l882 14:43:49 !check_your_resists 14:43:59 !source check_your_resists 14:44:00 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc;hb=HEAD#l112 14:44:07 I suppose that's BEAM_GHOSTLY_FLAME, not CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME 14:44:10 ghost crabs? 14:44:10 that's a beam, yeah 14:44:17 seriously! 14:44:29 floatingatoll: crawl is a very serious game 14:44:31 It probably should be resistable, right? 14:44:42 eh 14:44:45 * floatingatoll blinks 14:44:45 it doesn't really do any damage anyway 14:44:47 so who cares 14:44:49 true 14:45:25 Every time I get hit by it I think "Oh crap! I'd better . . . do . . . something?" and then just go about my business normally, since my HP doesn't really decrement. 14:46:17 don't clouds of death decrement your health a lot if you don't have rN+ 14:47:28 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:46 case CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME: return _cloud_damage_calc(15, 3, 4, maximum_damage); 14:48:58 ??random2avg 14:48:58 random2avg[1/1]: "random2avg() returns same mean value as random2() but with a lower variance" [decreasing with increasing second argument]. 14:49:25 So, it does an average of about 11 damage reduced by AC, I guess? 14:49:44 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:44 !lg * kaux~~ghostly 14:49:45 147. Eliezar the Protected (L10 MiFi of Kikubaaqudgha), blasted by Josephine (ghostly fireball) on D:10 on 2014-06-12 05:28:22, with 7257 points after 14068 turns and 1:45:38. 14:49:49 hm 14:50:01 At 22 AC, you should take no damage from the clouds most of the time. 14:50:04 !lg * kaux=ghostly_flame 14:50:04 5. Xandrah the Exorcist (L15 MiFi of The Shining One), engulfed by a revenant's ghostly flame on Abyss:3 on 2014-05-09 08:33:53, with 95722 points after 27233 turns and 1:16:26. 14:50:09 I suppose that's why I don't notice. 14:50:14 !hs * kaux=ghostly_flame 14:50:14 5. morik the Eclecticist (L20 DEWz of Vehumet), engulfed by a revenant's ghostly flame on Abyss:1 on 2014-01-16 03:05:03, with 276809 points after 66058 turns and 6:29:19. 14:50:47 !log morik DEWz Abyss:1 14:50:48 1. morik, XL20 DEWz, T:66058: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/morik/morgue-morik-20140116-030503.txt 14:51:20 good brand weapon scroll 14:52:02 wheals: reminder of the conversation ghost crabs game from: 19:14:55 crab family: fire, acid, storm, ghost, apocalypse. new bcrawl feature 14:52:07 s/game/came 14:52:29 20 AC, drank curing, lost 14 hp, and died at -2 hp. If I've got the math right, then he basically had to roll 0 on his armour roll to get that result, while the ghostly flames rolled in the top 75% of damage. 14:52:51 rip 14:53:30 hehe 14:53:56 re: damage variance 14:54:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:54:49 !log Xandrah MiFi Abyss:3 14:54:49 1. Xandrah, XL15 MiFi, T:27233: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Xandrah/morgue-Xandrah-20140509-083353.txt 14:54:53 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:55:04 Well, no surprise there. 14:55:25 !lg * kaux=ghostly_flame s=dam 14:55:25 5 games for * (kaux=ghostly_flame): 2x 5, 18, 14, 3 14:55:50 anyway, i must be off 14:55:54 hf! 14:55:55 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:56:03 -!- gnuvince- has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:29 Yeah, I guess it doesn't need to be resistable. 14:56:50 Still, it would be more in parity with the beam damage type 14:56:58 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:00 If people get hit by Josephine's ghostly fireball while wearing rN+, they'll get a "you resist" message, which might make them think it's worth putting on rN+ gear to fight a revenant 14:58:42 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:59:55 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:25 revenant (10L) | Spd: 10 | HD: 18 | HP: 67-96 | AC/EV: 8/12 | Dam: 26 | 07undead, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1926 | Sp: ghostly fireball (3d23), ghostly flames, dispel undead (3d27), 04esc:blink away | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:00:25 %??revenant 15:00:40 Lasty: ghostly fireball can do 3d23 without resistance, which seems nontrivial 15:00:57 tbh it probably is worth putting on at least rn+ when fighting revenants? 15:00:58 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9248 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), malmutate, fireball (3d43) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 15:00:58 %??orb of fire 15:01:00 Ok, fair point, but I mean to deal with the effects of their ghostly flame clouds 15:01:09 eh 15:01:12 that's more than oof fireball with rF+ 15:01:22 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:01:25 but just barely 15:01:31 ??deep elf sorcerer 15:01:31 deep elf sorcerer[1/1]: Spells: Bolt of draining, banishment, haste, summon demon, hellfire, and teleport 15:01:37 deep elf sorcerer (13e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 49-77 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 12 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(112) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1726 | Sp: b.draining (3d21), banishment, haste, sum.demon, hellfire (3d20) | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:01:37 %?? deep elf sorcerer 15:01:46 deep elf mage (06e) | Spd: 10 | HD: 6 | HP: 19-36 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(48) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 214 | Sp: b.magma (3d14), stone arrow (3d12) / flame tongue (3d9), sticky flame range (3d4), fireball (3d14), throw flame (3d6) / freeze, throw icicle (3d14), sum.ice beast / magic dart (3d4), force lance (3d10), battlesphere, mystic blast (3d12) / mystic blast (3d12), slow, b.venom (3d11), blink | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 15:01:46 %?? deep elf mage 15:02:48 Looks like it's closer to fire giant than deep elf mage 15:03:42 unknown monster: "ghost crab" 15:03:42 %?? ghost crab 15:03:59 -!- ldlework has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:04:31 PleasingFungus: let me rephrase: If people get hit by Josephine's ghostly fireball while wearing rN+, they'll get a "you resist" message, which might make them think it's worth putting on rN+ gear to fight a ghost crab 15:04:43 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:05:32 (which, as I understand it, places CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME but doesn't have any BEAM_GHOSTLY_FLAME attacks 15:07:51 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:05 Lasty: on the other hand, people will take so little damage from CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME that they won't bother putting on resists 15:08:28 True, but they might think they take so little damage because they already put on their rN+ gear as soon as they saw the crab 15:09:29 eh. it's probably not ideal but w/e 15:11:22 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:11 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:12:29 Penetration branded crossbow allows throwing piercing projectiles by Ashizen 15:13:35 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:15:06 nice 15:15:17 the return of penetrating large rocks 15:15:30 -!- Amnesiac has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:33 -!- Amnesiac has left ##crawl-dev 15:16:11 fr penetrating javelins actually exist 15:16:40 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Client Quit] 15:17:35 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:23 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:24 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:55 I'd push for increasing the CLOUD_GHOSTLY_FLAME damage a bit and making it subject to rN+ -- or making BEAM_GHOSTLY_FLAME irresistable and do less damage -- but as you say, not a big dela. 15:25:03 s/dela/deal/ 15:27:00 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:29 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:30:23 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:33 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:30:43 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:46 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 15:30:58 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Client Quit] 15:32:39 -!- FlowRiser has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:47 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:19 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1479-gbb605ee: Don't give launcher penetration to thrown missiles (#8679) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb605ee8c97a 15:34:41 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:40:34 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 15:42:07 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:46:11 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:48:47 -!- Miauw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:49:26 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:53 -!- kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:52:19 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:52 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:46 -!- kramin has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:55:57 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:56:02 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:01:37 -!- Tenda has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 16:04:16 |amethyst: doh 16:04:18 |amethyst: and thanks 16:05:12 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05:18 on the topic of ranged combat 16:05:40 apparently it's somehow even more overpowered now? 16:06:24 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 16:06:36 i think elliptic or someone explained longbows to me as full los range demon whips 16:07:42 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:07:56 I don't really think there's a "more" part to it, seeing as most people have been telling me they're just as overpowered as before. 16:08:06 You're welcome to break out the nerfing tools as soon as we figure out how to do that <_< 16:08:18 (this was clearly part of my plan all along) 16:08:33 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:39 well the thing with ranged demon whip is that it also means you can stop at 12 skill, which is pretty unfortunate if it's the case 16:09:28 since old ranged combat delay i think actually worked a whole lot better than melee does 16:10:18 possibly that is something to change for both ranged and melee together but i certainly get the impression that new ranged could do with a balance pass, anyway 16:13:04 Part of the motivation for new ranged combat was getting things to a point where we could come up with a reasonably way of handling delay for everything all at the same time. 16:13:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:14:33 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1480-g6c00423: Actually define the crab genus. 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c00423bc048 16:18:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1481-g91dc028: Simplify. 10(12 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=91dc028910c0 16:18:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1482-gb964477: Fix sleep spell description. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b9644773dc87 16:18:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1483-gc301cf7: Simplify db_lint for DUMMY_GENUS. 10(66 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c301cf7c42f5 16:18:08 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1484-ga0ae35b: Remove description for moth genus. 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0ae35b5a169 16:19:15 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 16:22:03 I don't think old ranged combat delay worked better than melee 16:22:25 there was still a min delay breakpoint on most characters except you probably have no idea where it is without using wizmode 16:23:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:23:17 its definitely "more overpowered" and not "just as overpowered" btw, except for slings being useless now 16:23:51 -!- lavos has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 16:24:10 -!- brainwrinkle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:24:22 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:27:04 alas, punk 16:27:31 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:45 Slings are useless now. :( 16:27:57 goblin nerf 16:28:16 -!- Medra is now known as Medar 16:28:25 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty_ 16:29:37 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1485-g692b94f: Fix whitespace. 10(32 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=692b94f52a83 16:39:45 "Obsolete" brand by stickyfingers 16:41:49 -!- ssrat_ is now known as ssrat 16:43:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:10 punk'd 16:44:49 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:52 !seen dpeg 16:44:52 I last saw dpeg at Fri Jun 13 21:44:47 2014 UTC (5s ago) joining the channel. 16:46:41 Grunt: I've seen two comments on Qazlal lately: collateral damage from the clouds; kiting potential. I cannot say how true these are. 16:47:53 collateral damage sounds intended... 16:49:26 PleasingFungus: on allies, yes? 16:52:47 yes? 16:57:57 ok ok :) 16:57:57 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:58:05 -!- Nomi_ is now known as NOmi 16:58:09 -!- NOmi is now known as Nomi 17:02:43 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:04:44 the kiting thing is somewhat more problematic, but the argument I've seen is, thanks to the GONGG conduct, you can't kite very well in most situations (since you're constantly surrounded by enemies) unless there are only one or two enemies left on the floor, in which case who cares. not sure how true that is, but it's an argument 17:05:03 Summon Guardian Golem: Injury Bond doesn't work properly by nogardnew 17:05:17 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 17:05:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1486-g60ead64: Give Punk the correct brand (#8680) 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=60ead64bf74d 17:05:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1487-g5385ec1: Fix up frost/flame-brand randarts as well. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 15+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5385ec194223 17:07:07 -!- Sombrero_Mott has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:20 -!- Sombrero_Mott is now known as Famott 17:07:33 <|amethyst> I think that's intended? Though the description is misleading 17:07:45 PleasingFungus: yes, I don't think it is unsurmountable -- if it is even real! 17:09:06 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:15 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:16:01 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:18:51 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:19:31 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:09 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1485-g692b94f (34) 17:25:17 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1488-ge4b89ec: A quote for hell hounds (#8677) 10(68 seconds ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e4b89ecd48b6 17:27:01 how good are slings now 17:28:15 Lightli: roughly as good as falchions 17:28:44 that's bad 17:28:53 worse at low skill 17:29:04 so is it worth using them at all or should you only bother if you find punk 17:29:25 you probably don't want to use punk either 17:29:47 wow 17:30:07 are they worse than bows 17:30:12 as in shortbows 17:31:07 Lightli: yes 17:31:34 joke fr: remove slings for being a waste of exp 17:32:12 that seems like a pretty reasonable FR to me, I don't see a need for four different ranged weapon classes 17:32:45 although it would probably make more sense to get rid of one of bows/xbows so that there is still a 1-handed launcher 17:34:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:35:20 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 17:36:15 the falchion comparison was assuming sling bullets btw 17:36:30 a sling with stones generally does less damage than just throwing the stones 17:41:00 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:04 <|amethyst> FR: git bisect --reverse so I don't have to remember to swap 'bad' and 'good' when I'm trying to find out when a bug was fixed rather than introduced 17:44:43 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:44:54 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:44:59 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 17:45:16 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:31 yeah 17:53:35 if it's THAT bad just remove slings 17:53:53 as it is they already have problems due to the lack of enemies that use them resulting in much less ammo 17:55:49 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:56:43 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:57:20 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:59:06 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:03:04 the hobbit cost... 18:03:09 I mean halfling 18:03:32 just secretly turn Ho into MD/Ho 18:03:50 -!- hewge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:06:49 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:16 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 18:09:28 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:14:17 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:15:06 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1489-g4ea94c4: Prompt for weapon choice if preselection was bad (#8577) 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ea94c40d519 18:17:08 <|amethyst> Not sure whether to cherry-pick that into 0.14 18:17:37 <|amethyst> also, does anyone else have anything they want to put into 0.14.2 before it goes out? 18:18:43 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:27:30 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:56 I was playing a MfSk of Qaz on offline trunk (updated a few days ago) and I noticed some weird behaviour which could be bugs: 18:31:13 1: Qazlals clouds destroy spectral weapon 18:31:38 2: destroying spectral weapon increases your slaying with song of slaying 18:32:34 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1490-gca8c18a: Don't autoexclude ice and salt (#8575) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ca8c18a72f52 18:32:36 so you can kind of exploit this by casting spectral weapon and letting it get destroyed a few times before you go into combat 18:32:47 I managed to get it to +3 18:32:56 fairly easily 18:33:14 Is anyone here? 18:33:20 <|amethyst> hm 18:33:32 don't patch it, it's finally a use for song of slaying :v 18:33:34 <|amethyst> I don't think 1. is a bug 18:33:46 <|amethyst> But 2. probably is 18:34:20 I think 1 should be a bug, it makes spectral weapon really annoying to use with qaz 18:34:40 <|amethyst> should it be immune to all damage you would deal to it? 18:35:27 !send |amethyst a pillar of salt shaped block of ice 18:35:28 Sending a pillar of salt shaped block of ice to |amethyst. 18:36:28 It's largely intentional that Q clouds don't play well with allies, for the record. 18:37:01 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:09 You are a storm unto yourself; you need no help :) 18:37:39 SoS probably shouldn't give slaying bonuses for allies, though 18:37:54 <|amethyst> I don't see a reason to exclude allies in general 18:38:20 <|amethyst> but your own spectral weapon shouldn't count any more than summons do 18:39:50 !tell ontoclasm you might be interested in closing bug 5735; there are one or two that might be salvageable, but other than that it's ripe for closing 18:39:50 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 18:41:18 right. |amethyst , 8577 reminded me of 4550 18:41:18 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:41:45 which it seems like you might know how to fix? it's still reproducible, last I checked, but I have no experience with the relevant code 18:44:38 <|amethyst> I noticed some weirdness too, but didn't look into it 18:44:58 <|amethyst> I don't really know the relevant code 18:45:05 <|amethyst> I just looked for the error message :) 18:46:11 alas 18:52:20 -!- Morik_ has quit [Client Quit] 18:53:15 -!- zedzed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:26 -!- Famott has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54:37 -!- e1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:56:46 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:00:03 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:00:29 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:01:56 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:47 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1491-gc9664ec: Be more picky about awarding Song of Slaying bonus (Kramin) 10(15 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c9664ec494a2 19:05:38 That was quick :) 19:09:30 <|amethyst> this also keeps you from getting SoS bonus by repeatedly killing asterion's spectral weapon 19:09:49 <|amethyst> and killing your own snakes-from-sticks 19:11:11 <|amethyst> (and mercenaries, friendly or not, and pikel's slaves) 19:11:43 man, my asterion tech ruined 19:16:16 first gozag win feedback: needs work :( 19:17:12 <|amethyst> 449 bugs closed by me 19:17:20 <|amethyst> I think MarvinPA will beat me to 500 19:17:40 -!- Morik_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:17:48 <|amethyst> s/closed/resolved/ 19:18:05 <|amethyst> oh 19:18:09 <|amethyst> that doesn't include closed 19:18:55 <|amethyst> so actually 733 19:20:00 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:20:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:20:36 <|amethyst> nowhere near kilobyte's 1145 19:21:05 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:21:07 <|amethyst> oh, these are in the summary page 19:21:17 <|amethyst> I guess that's a lot easier than querying for individuals 19:21:52 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:23 -!- hewge has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:23:31 hah 19:25:41 <|amethyst> Biggest reporters: MarvinPA, OG17, XuaXua, minmay, elliptic 19:25:58 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:25:59 <|amethyst> And the past 30 days have a net negative bug balance (more resolved than opened) 19:26:08 <|amethyst> not so for the past 60 days, or the past year :( 19:26:47 <|amethyst> sadly the graphs don't work 19:29:11 <|amethyst> Napkin: for the mantis reports pages, any chance you could install msttcorefonts, or else point /var/www/crawl.develz.org/jpgraph/jpg-config.inc.php and /var/www/crawl.develz.org/jpgraph/jpgraph_ttf.inc.php at different fonts? 19:29:13 seems odd that it would depend on a msft font set 19:29:20 <|amethyst> johnny0: it's set in the config file 19:29:32 ahh 19:29:46 <|amethyst> but the config file wasn't updated (or the fonts weren't installed) when CDO moved 19:29:53 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:03 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:41:32 -!- djetty has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:53:32 -!- eb has quit [] 19:55:00 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:55:00 -!- moose has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:55:37 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:11 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:15 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:18 can someone fix control undead's power please 20:00:35 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:51 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:27 What's the overal problem with its power? 20:10:14 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:38 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:22:56 gammafunk: have you tried using it? it randomizes its power, meaning that the same spellpower will give both "the hound struggles to resist" and "the hound easily resists" 20:23:12 which completely defeats the point of that MR message change 20:23:15 er 20:23:23 nice 20:23:23 ignore the part where you can't control undead a hound 20:23:50 No, I haven't used it (aside from a way to train necro), but yeah randomized spell power sounds pretty weird 20:23:58 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 20:29:15 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:30:24 huh 20:30:28 looking at the oldest open tickets 20:30:30 159 baffles me 20:30:49 are the unique pan levels really harder than the normal ones? if anything, they might be a little easier 20:31:21 (and of course you can't just "distort unwield to leave", now) 20:32:45 -!- Zifmia has quit [Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )] 20:33:41 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:22 <|amethyst> it's not necessarily that they're harder in themselves, but that if you flee you have permanently lost a rune 20:35:54 <|amethyst> but it doesn't seem like it would help much to label portals now that you can't leave of your own volition 20:36:22 <|amethyst> if you see that the next level is Cerebov's, but there is no exit here, what are you going to do? 20:37:03 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:37:18 <|amethyst> keep in mind that kilobyte has for a long time wanted to encourage lower-level players to visit Pan 20:37:22 i think the idea there was that one individual pan transit portal might be labelled "cerebov" and the rest wouldn't be 20:37:27 <|amethyst> aha 20:37:27 on a given level 20:37:37 but yeah i'm still not sure how good an idea it is 20:38:13 it would encourage exploration of pan levels, rather than rushing for the first exit once you've gotten the demonic rune 20:38:15 maybe that's good? 20:38:20 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140529030207]] 20:38:37 not that i'm against encouraging lower-level players to visit pan necessarily, but the fun thing to do is to dive for runes at low level 20:39:17 not sure that avoiding the unique levels and just trying to get loot would ever be wise really 20:40:00 <|amethyst> what about, for each level, generating either 1) all non-rune pan transits or 2) transits to all the (remaining) pan lords 20:40:17 <|amethyst> so you can choose which rune to go for, but not "none of the above" 20:40:25 <|amethyst> maybe that's too much like Hell 20:40:44 yeah, i sort of like the randomness of just dropping you into the unique levels 20:40:53 I don't think current pan needs fixing but I'm also never interested in going there early 20:41:33 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:41:48 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:41:48 -!- liquidsnake has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:42:29 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:42:50 random pan levels have wild variation and that is usually what makes me decide between exploring and fleeing, I don't see why not explore a level that doesn't look very dangerous 20:42:53 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:43:04 other people probably disagree, maybe rabidly so 20:43:36 Yeah, I hear more complaints about the demonic rune 20:43:50 I'd be interested in trying something different if we could get an agreement over it, since I think a lot of people aren't happy with the status quo. 20:44:05 to be honest the demonic rune shows up really early now.... if you know how to look for it efficiently 20:44:18 eb: By that you mean diving through portals? 20:44:43 sort of, let me try to go into detail as briefly as possible 20:45:23 also I'm about to enter pan so relevant topic 20:45:47 pan monster generation does (or at least did) that thing where you get some random "signature" demons per floor, if I see one nasty demon I flee to the next level as soon as possible since there's a good chance that there are others of that type everywhere 20:46:02 Death has come for gammafunk... 20:46:09 if I don't see anything bad, I find the panlord vault and peek inside 20:46:20 it's definitely not particularly hard to get the runes fast now, yeah 20:46:27 if it looks reasonable I clear it and check for rune, if it looks unreasonable I flee 20:46:40 this usually gets you the demonic rune before you finish getting the fixed ones 20:46:49 yeah, that "you rolled a hell sentinel" thing isn't great 20:47:37 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:58 !lm . 20:47:58 7012. [2014-06-13 02:51:56] gammafunk the Convoker (L17 HEIE of Sif Muna) reached level 5 of the Depths on turn 26665. (Depths:5) 20:48:12 going to be Pan at XL18 so indeed fleeing will be involved 20:49:11 also I'm not sure if the colour theme thing still exists, but I remember fleeing levels without seeing a single monster because the floor and walls glowed like hellions 20:49:37 on extremely rare occasions of course, but I've been to pan a lot of times 20:49:37 <|amethyst> that was removed 20:49:38 that's not a thing any more, it was in the past though iirc 20:49:46 yeah I suspected 20:49:46 <|amethyst> %git d69058b3 20:49:47 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-423-gd69058b: Choose Pan floor/wall colours randomly instead of basing them on monsters 10(1 year, 2 months ago, 4 files, 28+ 53-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d69058b34d72 20:49:58 oh yeah 20:50:01 fun secret tech there 20:50:05 heh 20:51:45 anyway, I think one of the charms of pan is not knowing what you're going to get with each portal 20:52:42 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:53:05 Is this a great name? Stabeh's Compendium of Lucky Poisoning 20:53:08 by the way if you know what you're doing what floor generation you roll is more relevant than what monster set you roll 20:53:28 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:31 -!- johlstei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53:38 then again this is sort of true for the whole game I suppose 20:53:49 yeah, wide-open pan levels 20:54:49 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:59 !send Pan bh 20:56:00 Sending bh to Pan. 20:56:10 o hai 20:56:30 Grunt: we should make a mutation that slows down your casting speed :D 20:56:56 We have enough badmuts already >_> 20:57:12 do we, though, do we? 20:58:00 does it look like people don't seek rmut 20:58:14 * Grunt shouts at bh, "Quit, thou tasty snack!" 20:58:23 -!- Mad_Wack_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:58:24 "rmut is useless" is a big thing in ##crawl 20:59:06 I'd generally agree but people forget to add the "except when it is" 20:59:18 !lg . won race=gr -log 20:59:18 1. bh, XL27 GrEE, T:204969: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bh/morgue-bh-20130723-013438.txt 20:59:35 !hs Bloax GrMo -log 20:59:36 54. Bloax, XL27 GrMo, T:36395: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bloax/morgue-Bloax-20130914-231219.txt 20:59:39 "rmut is useless" 20:59:39 gained mutation occurs 24 times in that log 20:59:49 27. well played 21:02:30 also unlike it seems to be in your case 21:02:33 i found no cure mutation in that game 21:03:50 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:04:20 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:38 Bloax: I converted to Zin for the win. 21:04:45 Grunt: do we have any muts that block cloaks? 21:04:57 No. 21:05:02 (How would that even work?) 21:05:37 The rmut is useless advice is geared towards normal-speed 3-rune games. I'm sure the advice that it's not very important even for not-undead/necromuters extended games is true, but I'd still prefer to have it 21:05:37 hunchback? no neck? funny shoulders? 21:06:15 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:06:33 One of Your potions of coagulated blood rots away. 21:06:52 !send Grunt potions of water 21:06:52 Sending potions of water to Grunt. 21:07:19 !cheers gammafunk 21:07:20 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:20 * Sequell slides a pint of brandy across the bar to gammafunk, on the house. 21:07:54 -!- crate_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08:01 How were games scored back when you could get unlimited demonic runes? 21:08:24 I can't find a simple reference on this without going to the source 21:08:37 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:44 Grunt: how about a mutation that provides reflection? 21:09:09 pretty sure only urune counted 21:09:20 so basically the same scoring as now 21:09:20 ah, ok 21:09:37 minus whatever was changed because of xomscumming 21:13:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:14:46 -!- atSign has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 21:15:29 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:15:30 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 21:15:47 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 21:15:52 Grunt: someone on wobtiles suggested a chaos breath mutation 21:16:23 oh 21:16:24 webtiles 21:16:31 that explains the terribleness of the suggestions 21:16:33 <_< >_> <_< >_> 21:20:19 people in webtiles are the *worst* 21:20:33 !lg bh s=tiles 21:20:34 1554 games for bh: 1349x false, 205x true 21:20:49 huh, bh you play on console? 21:21:40 I did 21:22:10 if I play webtiles, Basil can tell me how to avoid dying 21:23:39 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:05 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-1492-gd68dae0: Fix capitalisation of a message (Nomi). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d68dae0310a9 21:31:19 !lg bh tiles=false 21:31:20 1349. bh the Chopper (L4 LOBe of Trog), blasted by Ijyb (wand of draining) on D:3 on 2013-06-12 05:12:27, with 294 points after 1527 turns and 0:03:34. 21:31:39 !winrate neil 21:31:40 !lg bh tiles 21:31:41 205. bh the Insei (L3 OpTm), mangled by Terence (a +1,+0 hand axe of electrocution) on D:2 on 2014-05-31 02:45:33, with 44 points after 1013 turns and 0:02:30. 21:31:46 !winratio neil 21:31:56 !gamesby neil 21:31:57 neil has played 9164 games, between 2011-08-10 11:04:55 and 2014-06-13 14:21:47, won 2 (0.0%), high score 1318561, total score 19228007, total turns 24263121, play-time/day 1:22:39, total time 59d+15:23:55. 21:32:04 heh, 0.0% 21:32:06 !gamesby samb 21:32:07 yikes 21:32:07 samb has played 1398 games, between 2011-08-08 15:21:44 and 2013-12-27 01:32:32, won 0, high score 298746, total score 2047943, total turns 3986873, play-time/day 0:21:54, total time 13d+6:50:58. 21:32:16 that's because of his tournament startscumming! 21:32:26 at least in part 21:32:30 !lg samb max=xl 21:32:31 1398. SamB the Axe Maniac (L20 LOBe of Trog), blasted by a frost giant (bolt of cold) on Vaults:3 on 2013-06-30 23:39:07, with 298746 points after 55235 turns and 5:04:43. 21:32:44 !gamesby reaverb 21:32:44 reaverb has played 200 games, between 2013-05-30 04:12:20 and 2014-06-03 21:54:54, won 1 (0.5%), high score 1478612, total score 3907284, total turns 1684639, play-time/day 0:23:17, total time 5d+23:40:31. 21:33:00 well, not yet 1000 games so we'll allow it I guess 21:33:01 <|amethyst> gammafunk: That wasn't startscumming, I was honestly trying not to die :) 21:33:13 <|amethyst> !lg . !boring 21:33:14 8356. neil the Phalangite (L18 MfDK of Yredelemnul), blasted by an ogre mage (bolt of lightning) (kmap: dpeg_vaults_monster_row) on Vaults:1 on 2014-06-13 14:21:47, with 205215 points after 38027 turns and 2:41:58. 21:33:18 <|amethyst> !lg . !boring / won 21:33:18 2/8356 games for |amethyst (!boring): N=2/8356 (0.02%) 21:33:39 gasp 21:33:40 that was startscumming for sure! 21:33:50 you wanted those combo scores 21:33:58 you didn't quit, but you can't fool me 21:34:04 <|amethyst> :) 21:34:27 <|amethyst> !lg . !boring !t / won 21:34:28 2/8239 games for |amethyst (!boring !t): N=2/8239 (0.02%) 21:34:39 <|amethyst> oh, that's just the most recent 21:35:51 !gamesby ramc 21:35:51 ramc has played 89 games, between 2012-05-30 21:21:01 and 2014-06-10 03:17:43, won 19 (21.3%), high score 13351529, total score 86905476, total turns 3199960, play-time/day 0:37:45, total time 19d+10:54:54. 21:36:14 <|amethyst> !lg . !boring !t0.9 !t0.10 !t0.11 !t0.12 !t0.13 !t0.14 / won 21:36:15 2/6392 games for |amethyst (!boring !t0.9 !t0.10 !t0.11 !t0.12 !t0.13 !t0.14): N=2/6392 (0.03%) 21:36:16 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:36:18 -!- Morik_ is now known as morik 21:38:01 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:39:14 !learn set ~MgDark_next MuCK 21:39:14 ~MgDark next[1/1]: MuCK 21:39:16 er 21:39:17 doh 21:41:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 21:46:37 -!- Lasty_ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:47:25 Several more spell icons by roctavian 21:47:31 roctavian: hooray 21:47:41 a slow process 21:47:45 -!- morik has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:47:48 !send roctavian inspiration 21:47:48 Sending inspiration to roctavian. 21:48:08 (clearly one of these days we will teach you how to add things in to git yourself and let you do this yourself <_<) 21:48:21 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:33 terrifying, things other than gimp 21:49:06 but someday all the tiles will look nice, and i will move on to vault making or something 21:49:29 If ever you want a few pointers on vaulting, just ask. :) 21:49:39 definitely 21:50:17 -!- Farcaster has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:52:28 -!- rubinko has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:56:36 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:44 -!- cnted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:59:37 Grunt: obviously wings should block cloak slot 21:59:51 and I'm not *just* saying that because of anti-gargoyle prejudice... :) 22:00:43 <|amethyst> but draconian wings are in a different spot so they block armour and not cloak? 22:04:29 -!- rbrrk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:05:20 oh right draconian wings 22:05:23 hm 22:07:39 oh. http://i.imgur.com/C5DdcTD.jpg someone sent me this bug report 22:08:04 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:08:35 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:08 <|amethyst> what's the problem? 22:09:12 she's wielding a flail 22:09:18 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8566 -- this is my favorite recent bug 22:09:31 that's fantastic 22:09:47 have player ghost tiles ever worked correctly? 22:09:51 also, I wonder if that works with pan lords 22:10:01 <|amethyst> Are water nymphs not supposed to wield weapons? 22:10:08 water nymph (06m) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 37-64 | AC/EV: 4/13 | Dam: 1212(drown) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, amphibious, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(93), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 670 | Sp: waterstrike | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 22:10:08 %??water nymph 22:10:08 <|amethyst> because that would be easy enough to fix 22:10:21 huh. why can they use weapons 22:10:37 <|amethyst> why not? 22:10:43 <|amethyst> they're humanoid and intelligent 22:10:46 they're magic water faeries? idk 22:10:52 I guess they're size medium 22:10:56 so... okay 22:11:10 <|amethyst> oh, dire flail 22:11:30 <|amethyst> Yeah, I think medium makes more sense mythological than small 22:11:54 <|amethyst> they usually took the form of human females, at least when interacting with humans 22:12:03 <|amethyst> s/cal/cally/ 22:12:04 sure 22:12:16 am I getting kicked out for having no wins? 22:12:21 rip 22:12:22 rip 22:12:25 ty sequell. 22:15:31 -!- phalm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:16:01 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam s=name / win o=-% ?: %<0.01 den.N>=1000 22:16:02 107/33030 games for @devteam: 0/1398x SamB [0.00%], 2/9164x neil [0.02%], 24/10453x KiloByte [0.23%], 5/1360x bookofjude [0.37%], 17/3112x wheals [0.55%], 10/1554x bh [0.64%], 26/3393x sorear [0.77%], 9/1162x Napkin [0.77%], 14/1434x gammafunk [0.98%] 22:16:44 dang 22:16:50 !hs SamB 22:16:51 1398. SamB the Axe Maniac (L20 LOBe of Trog), blasted by a frost giant (bolt of cold) on Vaults:3 on 2013-06-30 23:39:07, with 298746 points after 55235 turns and 5:04:43. 22:16:54 vYxOr (L14 SpEn) (Lair:8) 22:16:55 dang 22:17:03 <|amethyst> !lg . won 22:17:04 2. Neil the Faith Healer (L27 HOHe of Elyvilon), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-10-04 20:54:19, with 1318561 points after 99008 turns and 8:11:47. 22:17:04 hmm, so you could say there's insufficient sample size to compare me with |amethyst ;-P 22:17:10 <|amethyst> that was before I joined the devteam 22:17:11 ha 22:17:25 imho ban all devs with a win rate of less than 22:17:27 !won 22:17:27 PleasingFungus has won 23 times in 250 games (9.20%): 1xCeHu 1xDDNe 1xDECj 1xDrCj 1xDsGl 1xFeAr 1xFoCK 1xGrBe 1xGrFi 1xHEWn 1xHOFi 1xHaAr 1xHuCK 1xHuWn 1xKoBe 1xMfIE 1xMiFi 1xNaSk 1xNaVM 1xTeCj 1xTrMo 1xVSTm 1xVSWn 22:17:32 9.19% 22:17:41 that seems fair to me 22:17:45 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam s=name / win o=-% ?: %>0.0919 22:17:45 416/2062 games for @devteam: 62/584x evilmike [10.62%], 70/575x itsmu [12.17%], 58/413x Medar [14.04%], 1/5x DracoOmega [20.00%], 1/3x galehar [33.33%], 224/482x elliptic [46.47%] 22:18:01 <|amethyst> !nick devteam 22:18:02 Mapping devteam => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rax rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu greensnark MarvinPA evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer napkin samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk n78291 reaverb 22:18:04 !lg @devteam s=name / xl>=15 o=-% ?: %<0.01 den.N>=1000 22:18:05 50/10562 games for @devteam: 6/1398x SamB [0.43%], 44/9164x neil [0.48%] 22:18:20 okay what is all that gunk 22:18:26 <|amethyst> !nick devteam PleasingFungus 22:18:28 Mapping devteam => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rax rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu greensnark MarvinPA evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer napkin samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk n78291 reaverb pleasingfungus 22:18:28 I obviously don't have a clue what that query means 22:18:41 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam s=name / win o=-% ?: %>0.0919 22:18:42 439/2312 games for @devteam: 23/250x PleasingFungus [9.20%], 62/584x evilmike [10.62%], 70/575x itsmu [12.17%], 58/413x Medar [14.04%], 1/5x DracoOmega [20.00%], 1/3x galehar [33.33%], 224/482x elliptic [46.47%] 22:18:52 SamB: looks like the number of characters who've gotten to xl>=15, divided by total # of characters? 22:19:18 well, why did it list just me and neil? 22:19:20 <|amethyst> SamB: players who have played more than 1000 games gotten fewer than 1% of them to XL 15 22:19:25 *devs 22:19:26 ah 22:19:27 <|amethyst> players on the devteam 22:19:35 <|amethyst> s/gotten/and &/ 22:19:36 see, the 1% thing is what I didn't get 22:19:40 I was going to clarify that but I couldn't figure out how to phrase it right 22:19:57 why is it %<0.01 22:19:59 !lg @devteam s=name / win o=N ?:N>=10 22:20:00 877/34109 games for @devteam: 224/482x elliptic [46.47%], 102/2964x MarvinPA [3.44%], 70/575x itsmu [12.17%], 62/584x evilmike [10.62%], 58/2206x rob [2.63%], 58/413x Medar [14.04%], 50/866x pointless [5.77%], 36/1355x SGrunt [2.66%], 31/881x doy [3.52%], 26/3393x sorear [0.77%], 24/10453x KiloByte [0.23%], 24/1006x rax [2.39%], 23/250x PleasingFungus [9.20%], 18/1772x dpeg [1.02%], 17/3112x wheal... 22:20:04 that doesn't make sense 22:20:10 % should not refer to a fraction 22:20:15 <|amethyst> SamB: yeah :/ 22:20:18 get rekd 22:20:45 someday I should play more crawl 22:20:52 but there's always so much to do 22:21:44 hm 22:21:45 !lg @devteam s=name / win x=cdist(crace) ?:cdist(crace)>=24 22:21:46 552/6373 games for @devteam: 224/482x elliptic [46.47%;31/31 (100.00%)], 102/2964x MarvinPA [3.44%;29/32 (90.62%)], 70/575x itsmu [12.17%;28/29 (96.55%)], 62/584x evilmike [10.62%;25/27 (92.59%)], 58/413x Medar [14.04%;29/31 (93.55%)], 36/1355x SGrunt [2.66%;25/28 (89.29%)] 22:22:00 !lg @devteam s=name / win x=cdist(role) ?:cdist(role)>=24 22:22:00 Bad filter condition: 'cdist(role)' (extra: x=cdist(cls)) 22:22:10 !lg @devteam s=name / win x=cdist(cls) ?:cdist(cls)>=24 22:22:11 610/8579 games for @devteam: 224/482x elliptic [46.47%;32/32 (100.00%)], 102/2964x MarvinPA [3.44%;30/32 (93.75%)], 70/575x itsmu [12.17%;30/32 (93.75%)], 62/584x evilmike [10.62%;27/30 (90.00%)], 58/413x Medar [14.04%;27/30 (90.00%)], 58/2206x rob [2.63%;25/31 (80.65%)], 36/1355x SGrunt [2.66%;27/28 (96.43%)] 22:22:43 ...I have no idea what some of these numbers mean (besides which 24 is kind of arbitrary!) 22:23:00 <|amethyst> Grunt: MarvinPA has one more race than everybody else 22:23:12 <|amethyst> !lg MarvinPA s=crace o=-N 22:23:13 2964 games for MarvinPA: Grotesk, 5x Djinni, 8x Gargoyle, 9x Lava Orc, 9x Formicid, 17x Tengu, 23x Troll, 27x Vine Stalker, 31x Felid, 39x Centaur, 52x Deep Dwarf, 59x Demigod, 65x Halfling, 69x Hill Orc, 69x Ghoul, 73x Merfolk, 74x High Elf, 79x Human, 81x Ogre, 85x Kobold, 85x Minotaur, 99x Mountain Dwarf, 100x Vampire, 114x Deep Elf, 116x Sludge Elf, 124x Mummy, 124x Draconian, 185x Kenku, 211x... 22:23:44 <|amethyst> one more race played I mean 22:23:48 <|amethyst> !lg elliptic s=crace o=-N 22:23:48 1850 games for elliptic: Djinni, 5x Gargoyle, 6x Vine Stalker, 10x Lava Orc, 17x Merfolk, 17x Formicid, 23x Demigod, 27x Centaur, 29x Ghoul, 34x Sludge Elf, 35x Human, 36x Draconian, 37x Tengu, 39x Felid, 40x Vampire, 44x Naga, 44x Ogre, 44x Mountain Dwarf, 48x Halfling, 50x Troll, 50x Octopode, 51x High Elf, 53x Hill Orc, 55x Kenku, 61x Kobold, 67x Minotaur, 94x Deep Dwarf, 120x Mummy, 122x Deep ... 22:24:02 <|amethyst> !lg Medar s=crace o=-N 22:24:02 413 games for Medar: Mountain Dwarf, 2x Gargoyle, 5x Vine Stalker, 5x Djinni, 6x Kenku, 9x Spriggan, 10x Deep Dwarf, 10x Sludge Elf, 10x Human, 10x Ogre, 11x Draconian, 12x Troll, 12x Minotaur, 12x Naga, 13x High Elf, 13x Vampire, 13x Mummy, 13x Demigod, 14x Lava Orc, 15x Ghoul, 15x Halfling, 16x Centaur, 17x Hill Orc, 18x Felid, 18x Kobold, 18x Demonspawn, 18x Octopode, 19x Merfolk, 20x Deep Elf,... 22:24:33 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam crace=Grotesk s=name / won o=% 22:24:35 0/6 games for @devteam (crace=Grotesk): 0/1x MarvinPA [0.00%], 0/1x neil [0.00%], 0/2x bh [0.00%], 0/2x gammafunk [0.00%] 22:24:55 <|amethyst> Yay I'm an early tester 22:25:05 <|amethyst> and/or managed to die before the update renamed them 22:25:56 <|amethyst> !lg * won Grotesk s=name 22:25:56 One game for * (won Grotesk): 78291 22:26:17 <|amethyst> !nick devteam 22:26:17 Mapping devteam => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rax rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu greensnark MarvinPA evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer napkin samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk n78291 reaverb pleasingfungus 22:26:23 <|amethyst> !nick add devteam 78291 22:26:23 Mapping add => centuryplayers ophanim mfc 256 advil apoch buddharebellion burningbeard curiousnu dbaker84 demiurge docholladay flatluigi fleacircus friscobowie gami greynaab hammerdwarf helicomatic inkoate jerbear56 jigsaw jinxplayer johnstein kaibutsu katrel keeo kimtruck laceratedsky mrbismarck murphyslaw neckro23 odiv omnomnominous porpoise rolandofeld shmup slitherrr thenoid tkappleton toomuch... 22:26:27 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam crace=Grotesk s=name / won o=% 22:26:28 0/6 games for @devteam (crace=Grotesk): 0/1x MarvinPA [0.00%], 0/1x neil [0.00%], 0/2x bh [0.00%], 0/2x gammafunk [0.00%] 22:26:28 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140414143035]] 22:26:41 <|amethyst> oh 22:26:45 <|amethyst> !nick devteam 78291 22:26:45 Mapping devteam => kilobyte pointless dpeg enne evktalo keskitalo bookofjude haranp rax rob sorear zaba felirx doy itsmu greensnark MarvinPA evilmike sgrunt neil edlothiol jpeg erisdiscordia galehar elliptic ontoclasm bh frogbotherer napkin samb dracoomega mumra medar hangedman sage wheals gammafunk n78291 reaverb pleasingfungus 78291 22:26:51 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:26:57 why doesnt n78291 work? 22:27:04 <|amethyst> !lg @devteam crace=Grotesk s=name / won o=% 22:27:05 1/9 games for @devteam (crace=Grotesk): 1/3x 78291 [33.33%], 0/2x bh [0.00%], 0/1x neil [0.00%], 0/2x gammafunk [0.00%], 0/1x MarvinPA [0.00%] 22:27:13 !nick n78291 22:27:14 !nick add -rm 22:27:14 Mapping n78291 => n78291 78291 22:27:14 <|amethyst> SamB: I misadded him 22:27:15 Deleted add => centuryplayers ophanim mfc 256 advil apoch buddharebellion burningbeard curiousnu dbaker84 demiurge docholladay flatluigi fleacircus friscobowie gami greynaab hammerdwarf helicomatic inkoate jerbear56 jigsaw jinxplayer johnstein kaibutsu katrel keeo kimtruck laceratedsky mrbismarck murphyslaw neckro23 odiv omnomnominous porpoise rolandofeld shmup slitherrr thenoid tkappleton toomuch... 22:27:26 |amethyst: I didn't ask that :-P 22:27:31 <|amethyst> johnny0: but it was such a history of failure 22:27:41 rip failure 22:27:51 <|amethyst> SamB: yeah, but you start with the same letter 22:28:18 <|amethyst> I can't be expected to type *two* letters before pressing tab! 22:28:22 <|amethyst> Unless they're both ctrl-o 22:28:40 !kw mfc 22:28:41 No keyword 'mfc' 22:28:48 !nick mfc 22:28:48 Mapping mfc => 256 advil apoch buddharebellion burningbeard curiousnu dbaker84 demiurge docholladay flatluigi fleacircus friscobowie gami greynaab hammerdwarf helicomatic inkoate jerbear56 jigsaw jinxplayer johnstein kaibutsu katrel keeo kimtruck laceratedsky mrbismarck murphyslaw neckro23 odiv omnomnominous porpoise rolandofeld shmup slitherrr thenoid tkappleton toomuchpete xqwzts zoltan2357 zomb... 22:30:28 <|amethyst> err, s/ctrl-// 22:30:55 <|amethyst> Though putting autoexplore (back?) on ctrl-o would be handy because o is right next to i 22:31:32 <|amethyst> just tape down Ctrl and you can play crawl with one hand 22:31:58 <|amethyst> I guess stairs could be a problem 22:40:36 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:42:01 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:43:06 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1493-g64ebc59: Tidy up some web/net behaviour 10(3 minutes ago, 5 files, 35+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=64ebc5910fab 22:45:46 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 22:45:56 -!- evilmike has quit [] 22:46:21 -!- NemelexXobeh has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:51:35 -!- Dmummy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:51:51 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:01:01 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:03:32 I think the relevant query is 23:03:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:03:59 !lg @devteam GrDK s=score 23:04:00 5 games for @devteam (GrDK): 1478518, 2181, 20, 184, 2159344 23:04:09 !lg @devteam GrDK s=name o=score 23:04:09 Bad filter condition: 'sc' (extra: ) 23:04:17 !lg @devteam GrDK s=name x=score 23:04:17 Extra fields (x=sc) contain non-aggregates 23:04:20 ok 23:05:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:05:54 !lg @devteam GrDK s=score,name o=score 23:05:55 5 games for @devteam (GrDK): 2159344 (gammafunk), 1478518 (78291), 2181 (78291), 184 (78291), 20 (gammafunk) 23:07:03 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:09:00 hm. |amethyst, do you know if NOTE_TYPES is in the class of enums that can't ever be rearranged, even after a tag change? 23:09:52 Does anyone have strong feelings against me tweaking the int drain from XXX? 23:10:05 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:10:19 restore ab pots seem a lot less common now, and there's no 2x sustain to totally block the effect 23:11:42 I'd not be opposed to removing the int drain, but it seems it's pretty good flavor and some reasonable balance for a single-school spell that makes so many things 23:12:52 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:18:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1494-g9b5f725: Added a note for mutations becoming permanent (Prism) 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 10+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b5f7252e6af 23:18:35 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1495-g3e22f27: Clarify Guardian Golem's effect 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e22f2781784 23:18:59 PleasingFungus: thanks :) 23:19:05 oops, forgot the ticket number 23:19:07 rip 23:19:08 PleasingFungus: (imo put the mantis-- yes) 23:19:17 I remembered to credit the guy for the other thing! 23:19:27 one out of two ain't bad 23:19:32 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:21:43 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22:29 !gamesby PleasingFungus 23:22:30 PleasingFungus has played 250 games, between 2013-11-22 22:41:11 and 2014-06-02 14:38:44, won 23 (9.2%), high score 16281472, total score 106776889, total turns 4922397, play-time/day 2:19:11, total time 18d+15:45:03. 23:22:39 ...23 out of 250 apparently isn't bad either!! 23:22:42 <_< >_> <_< >_> 23:22:48 tbf I've mostly been playing easy combos 23:22:52 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:53 !lg . mu 23:22:54 No games for PleasingFungus (mu). 23:22:56 !won PleasingFungus 23:22:57 PleasingFungus has won 23 times in 250 games (9.20%): 1xCeHu 1xDDNe 1xDECj 1xDrCj 1xDsGl 1xFeAr 1xFoCK 1xGrBe 1xGrFi 1xHEWn 1xHOFi 1xHaAr 1xHuCK 1xHuWn 1xKoBe 1xMfIE 1xMiFi 1xNaSk 1xNaVM 1xTeCj 1xTrMo 1xVSTm 1xVSWn 23:22:59 !greatrace PleasingFungus 23:23:00 PleasingFungus is not a species, sorry. 23:23:01 er 23:23:03 haha 23:23:04 !greatplayer PleasingFungus 23:23:08 Unwon species for PleasingFungus: Demigod, Ghoul, Mummy, Octopode, Ogre, Spriggan, Vampire 23:23:17 !learn add PleasingFungus PleasingFungus is not a species, sorry. 23:23:18 pleasingfungus[4/4]: PleasingFungus is not a species, sorry. 23:23:28 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:30 you can't dispute it 23:23:30 ...not even a Sp 23:23:31 o_O 23:23:37 Grunt: blame wheals! 23:23:40 !hs . sp 23:23:40 13. PleasingFungus the Sorcerer (L21 SpFE of Ashenzari), killed by an exploding ball lightning (created by wheals' ghost) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2014-05-01 23:34:26, with 380108 points after 64058 turns and 6:59:53. 23:23:46 rip 23:23:46 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:23:49 yeah rip 23:24:01 (iirc that one's kind of a funny tv) 23:24:09 !lg PleasingFungus sp vaults:5 -tv 23:24:09 (insofar as: I played real bad 23:24:10 1. PleasingFungus, XL21 SpFE, T:64058 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 23:24:55 Whenever I see preparation just before entering V:$ like that I always remember that one recite TV. 23:25:04 that is a classic tv 23:25:11 7 ball lightnigns come into view. 23:25:21 things I should not have done: tried to climb the stairs 23:25:28 kaboom 23:25:33 things I should have done: *cast silence* 23:25:43 (well, before that, really) 23:25:51 ah well 23:27:03 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 23:30:51 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0.1/20140506152807]] 23:34:48 !bug 8435 23:34:48 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8435 23:35:43 haha, one of the top results on google for "vampiricism" is that patch 23:36:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 23:43:08 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:30 -!- Farcaster2 has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 23:44:02 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:44:03 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44:22 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:45:57 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1496-g78b8498: Reduce the int drain from Summon Horrible Things 10(17 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=78b84988da50 23:46:11 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:29 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:47:35 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:47:44 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:59 ugh. none of these patches apply even a little bit and I have a terrible feeling I'll have to redo them by hand 23:48:40 -!- Tenda has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:52:50 -!- roctavian has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:55:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev