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The stream of webbing misses you. Your ogre is caught in a web! _The stream of webbing hits your ogre. 01:09:03 trying to figure out where that last message is getting printed 01:11:00 it's happening quite consistently 01:11:41 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:13:35 <|amethyst> !learn add devteam They rather get their substitute for intellectual satisfaction from not quite understanding what they are doing in their daring irresponsibility and from the subsequent excitement of chasing the bugs they should not have introduced in the first place. ā€“E. Dijkstra 01:13:36 devteam[15/15]: They rather get their substitute for intellectual satisfaction from not quite understanding what they are doing in their daring irresponsibility and from the subsequent excitement of chasing the bugs they should not have introduced in the first place. ā€“E. Dijkstra 01:13:52 sounds about right 01:16:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1410-gf7d175c: Don't let monsters get free turns when escaping 10(14 minutes ago, 5 files, 156+ 133-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7d175ca4c26 01:16:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1411-g4425d19: Don't ensnare monsters before they're hit by webbing 10(27 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4425d19822c5 01:16:35 aw, shoot, I should have credited the guy who complained about the netting thing for that first commit 01:16:37 'oh well' 01:19:59 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:24:50 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140606030206]] 01:29:11 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:34:05 -!- johlstei has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35:03 -!- frogor_home has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:06 -!- frogor_home is now known as frogor 01:35:13 -!- frogor has quit [Changing host] 01:35:13 -!- frogor has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:21 -!- frogor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:40:16 @crawlcode · 3h - MONS_PLAYER: intelligence: I_HIGH /*uh huh, sure sure*/ 01:40:22 lmfao this is the best comment 01:49:23 -!- jaumoose has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:50:36 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:07 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:54:23 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:02 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:05:16 -!- korzok has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:17:25 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 02:17:44 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1411-g4425d19 (34) 02:19:40 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:00 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:21:09 -!- Sorbius has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:23:40 -!- tksquared has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24:19 -!- WITCHCRAFT has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:30:00 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 02:32:22 -!- Lightli_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:35:18 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 02:35:38 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 02:37:53 -!- thetao has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:13 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:54:08 -!- Satonakaja has quit [Quit: Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei!] 03:01:04 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:01:34 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:15:14 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:20:59 -!- omnirizon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:21:00 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:23:31 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:23 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:33:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:36:38 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:42:08 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:30 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:56:29 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:56:37 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:20:03 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:37 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:29:07 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:39:04 -!- evablue_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:53:23 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:53:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:43 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:03:27 -!- DrKe2 has quit [] 05:06:10 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:10:15 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:17:13 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:20:01 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 05:21:29 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:23:39 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:24:35 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:24:59 -!- Klink_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:26:19 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:30:06 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1412-g758c5af: Adjust messaging for (un)equipping faith under Gozag 10(20 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=758c5afc2ca9 05:30:06 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1413-g3208b8c: Fix capitalisation in a branch description 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3208b8c6f14b 05:31:23 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:31:23 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:31:38 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 05:33:30 -!- Amy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:56 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 05:39:38 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:45:13 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:46:50 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:35 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:56 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:56:56 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:49 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:01:52 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:04:19 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Quit: We be chillin - 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08:12:54 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 08:16:02 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:16:13 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:18:54 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:18:57 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:19:36 -!- agentgt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:20:14 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:39 -!- namad7 has quit [] 08:21:53 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:26:23 -!- codehero has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:27:38 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 08:30:15 -!- codehero has quit [Excess Flood] 08:31:40 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:32:46 -!- Adeon is now known as MaryPoppins 08:33:03 -!- MaryPoppins is now known as Adeon 08:34:45 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 08:36:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:37:08 i'm merging mon-pickup and i want to rewrite history on two commits in the middle 08:37:27 is there a way to rebase without moving all the commits to the end? 08:37:38 or a way to change a commit without rebasing 08:37:58 -!- codehero has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:38:48 s/end/HEAD/ 08:38:57 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:39:32 <|amethyst> wheals: when you rebase you can specify which commit to rebase on top of 08:40:07 <|amethyst> wheals: so you could give whichever commit you forked from 08:40:25 ok, i'll try that 08:47:41 Crash in Shoals when trying to rest in fear state by patheticliltramp 08:49:43 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 08:50:24 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:50:41 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:53 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:52:40 i think i might just actually leave it in after all, it seems that it might just be confusing to change it around 08:53:31 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1111-g76d6fdf: The start: don't let monsters pick up items you've seen. 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 8+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=76d6fdf29a37 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1112-g40715cc: Don't let friendlies pick up anything at all. 10(4 weeks ago, 2 files, 7+ 39-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=40715cc413a9 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1113-g7f216ff: Remove the now-superfluous friendly_pickup command suite. 10(4 weeks ago, 14 files, 6+ 117-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f216ff0641a 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1114-gd1b8b35: Don't let monsters pick up miscellaneous items. 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1b8b352da7b 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1115-g5712dba: Move some of Maurice's stealing code into its own function. 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 53+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5712dba9fee5 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1116-gb2ae074: Add a "Give item to follower" invocation for Beogh (evilmike). 10(2 weeks ago, 6 files, 117+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2ae07411e18 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1117-gb883f3e: Stop up an information leak. 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b883f3e774ad 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1118-gacbb2f2: Give Beogh a chance to upgrade armour of orc friends. 10(2 weeks ago, 2 files, 16+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=acbb2f26ced3 08:56:52 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1119-gdff2ca7: Give Beogh a chance of upgrading weapon types of orcs. 10(13 days ago, 1 file, 59+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dff2ca7b45eb 08:56:52 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1120-g40568d4: Split off armour and shield upgrade code. 10(13 days ago, 2 files, 26+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=40568d41d8ee 08:56:52 ... and 4 more commits 08:57:52 wheals: yay! 08:58:15 -!- codehero has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:58:21 maybe i should go play some beogh :) 08:59:04 The Korean players will be very happy about the Give Item command :) (I can live with it, as long as you aren't doing it often.) 08:59:48 what's this about koreans 09:00:04 have the koreans taken liking to crawl 09:00:18 <|amethyst> !lg ckr / beogh 09:00:19 No games for ckr. 09:00:23 <|amethyst> !lg * ckr / beogh 09:00:24 1808/86113 games for * (ckr): N=1808/86113 (2.10%) 09:00:29 <|amethyst> !lg * recent / beogh 09:00:30 4644/735595 games for * (recent): N=4644/735595 (0.63%) 09:00:31 Beogh is big in Korea. 09:00:51 i suppose that the upgrade chance numbers could get looked at, i forgot that there's only a 10% chance the code will get run at all 09:00:57 it would be really interesting to compare favorite god/species/background by nation 09:00:57 so when you have lots of orc 09:01:01 wheals: yes, sure 09:01:04 it's like zerg rush? 09:01:37 wheals: yes, sure 09:01:41 damn, wrong window 09:01:53 heh 09:03:02 Abagfulloftentacles (L1 SpAs) ERROR: range check error (114 / 114) (D (Sprint)) 09:04:57 <|amethyst> !crashlog Abagfulloftentacles sprint 09:04:57 1. Abagfulloftentacles, XL1 SpAs, T:109 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Abagfulloftentacles/crash-Abagfulloftentacles-20140611-140301.txt 09:05:19 <|amethyst> already fixed 09:07:26 * geekosaur sees he pulled a couple minutes too early >.> 09:08:53 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:10:47 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:13:44 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:17:04 -!- mumi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:27:31 -!- Farcaster has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:34:30 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:36:44 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:02 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:10 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:02 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:49:29 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:50:24 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 09:51:24 -!- negatendo has quit [Quit: negatendo] 09:52:46 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:50 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:05 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:02:18 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:02:49 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1428-gbbcd884: Move zap_los_monsters and apply it through glass. 10(5 minutes ago, 2 files, 37+ 32-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bbcd8840a9d2 10:04:46 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:41 so many old bug reports closed now <3 10:10:02 !send dpeg bugs 10:10:03 Sending bugs to dpeg. 10:11:34 I have enough, many thanks! 10:13:12 * Grunt squashes the bug like a proverbial insect!!! 10:18:07 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:27:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:48 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:28:07 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:28:31 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 10:37:39 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 10:37:44 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 10:46:49 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:49:02 i think bbcd884 breaks a bunch of entry vaults that put monsters behind glass deliberately? 10:49:53 The comment claims that // Uses LOS_DEFAULT since some arrival vaults have glass. 10:50:15 mm 10:50:34 yes, i'm not really sure why that's necessary 10:50:57 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140606030206]] 10:51:24 if there's glass then presumably the monster can't attack you immediately at least, which is the point of the check i guess 10:52:13 it's more forgiving than a monster spawning one square outside an entry vault since you have warning of it, too! 10:57:02 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:00:40 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Client Quit] 11:01:01 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:03:13 <|amethyst> not zapping monsters behind glass was a deliberate decision 11:03:16 <|amethyst> %git 928730e 11:03:17 07kilobyte02 * 0.10-a0-2677-g928730e: Allow hostiles behind glass at the game start. 10(2 years, 6 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=928730edd1fc 11:06:46 -!- athros has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 11:07:29 -!- negatendo has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:07:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think MU_USE_NONE should probably go, and MUTFLAG_NONE should be zero not one 11:11:09 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: it seems silly to reserve a bit for "no flag" 11:11:55 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I was thinking it might also make sense to assert that each mutation has at least one of GOOD and BAD set 11:12:07 <|amethyst> when you initialise the tables 11:15:22 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:17:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:44 !vault minmay_arrival_semitransparent 11:17:45 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/small.des;hb=HEAD#l395 11:18:28 it seems a bit cruel in that vault for example, a monster can be just 6 steps away 11:18:39 though i guess that would be true if it were alls x's too 11:19:15 in something like 11:19:23 !vault widening_spiral_narrow 11:19:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arrival/small.des;hb=HEAD#l564 11:19:45 just as bad, so you can change it back if you want 11:20:58 PleasingFungus: shameless teaser about boulder form is go 11:22:40 |amethyst: the vague idea with allowing muts that are neither GOOD or BAD is that you could have weights for slime/qaz muts or similar 11:23:01 but they still wouldn't show up in normal !mut/bene/malmut, since they're neither good nor bad 11:23:32 MU_USE_NONE can probably go, though, yeah 11:23:38 Bloax: what. what did I do 11:23:56 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=177929#p177929 nothing 11:24:07 I uh 11:24:31 (a) boulder form is currently planned to be a potion first, like lignify; it might be a spell later 11:24:40 (b) I wasn't planning on replacing blade hands in any case 11:24:52 ty for your enthusiasm, though! 11:25:01 was boulder beetle form too good to be true 11:25:17 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:29 it might later transform from boulder form into boulder beetle form 11:25:43 right now it's boulder form because that's what mu made the tiles for 11:25:57 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:26:06 and it's also kind of neat to have a form that's always rollin' 11:26:17 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 11:26:20 PleasingFungus: do you think all the issues in #4890 were fixed by your changes? 11:26:31 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=7292 he he he 11:26:36 !bug 4890 11:26:36 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4890 11:26:48 Bloax: !!! 11:27:08 oddly there are only three boulder tiles in the build I have 11:27:16 must be early 11:27:19 though I'm pretty sure they come from that ticket 11:27:21 yeah, must be 11:27:23 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:35 oh yeah that reminds me 11:27:40 boulder beetles aren't SHINY enough 11:27:49 let's go fix that 11:27:51 wheals: I... think this was fixed before my changes, actually 11:27:55 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:27:56 chrome beetles 11:27:57 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 11:28:04 wheals: fr!!!!!!! 11:28:06 ok, sweet 11:28:16 I'd want to try to reproduce first, to be sure 11:28:19 since it should be a simple check 11:28:31 but I *think* this has been dead for a while 11:28:45 of course it is, there are no +lev items 11:29:00 :p 11:29:05 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:30:07 Enter Wizard Command (? - help): 11:30:07 Cast which spell? 11:30:07 _You would drown in your new form. 11:30:24 Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) 11:30:25 _Losing flight right now would be fatal! 11:30:43 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:33:35 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: maybe that at least one flag is set then 11:33:54 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: hm, or I guess that could indicate "unfinished" 11:34:11 <|amethyst> though maybe unfinished would be better as its own tag 11:34:25 <|amethyst> or, for that matter, just weight 0 :) 11:34:27 do we actually still use 'unfinished' flags for monsters/spells? 11:34:43 <|amethyst> monsters 11:34:49 really. 11:34:53 <|amethyst> axed_mon only now :) 11:34:57 ahh 11:35:29 <|amethyst> one difference, IIRC, is that you can force-place unfinished monsters in wizmode 11:35:39 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:35:39 <|amethyst> difference from M_CANT_SPAWN 11:36:04 <|amethyst> but I guess that's not an issue for muts (you can give yourself weight-0 muts) so it's not a problem 11:36:15 <|amethyst> s/a problem/necessary/ 11:36:39 <|amethyst> I must be going, thoughā€”meeting 11:39:43 hf :) 11:44:13 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1429-g07fcab1: Don't remove monsters behind glass on game start 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=07fcab1d610d 11:47:07 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:47:44 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:51:34 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:42 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 11:59:59 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:37 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:02:41 -!- Mad_Wack_Away has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzā€¦] 12:08:45 -!- brainwrinkle has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:09:48 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:10:29 -!- brainwrinkle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:11:07 -!- TheMattybee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:17 -!- bencryption has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 12:16:04 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1429-g07fcab1 (34) 12:18:14 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 12:22:25 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:26:46 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:31:14 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:19 Nilsyn (L4 DrMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 12:34:43 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:34:46 Nilsyn (L4 DrMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 12:39:09 -!- ystael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:39:49 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:42 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:50:28 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:59 -!- Mattias has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:02 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 12:55:09 Game crash on entering vault by skjarl 12:55:13 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 12:55:31 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59:26 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzā€¦] 13:03:07 -!- Mattias has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:03:30 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:20 -!- Mattias has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:38 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:08:41 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:43 anyone have a good "remove mimics" patch handy ? :p 13:09:31 !lm * crash -log 13:09:32 7827. Nilsyn, XL4 DrMo, T:1489 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Nilsyn/crash-Nilsyn-20140611-173445.txt 13:11:38 -!- Farcaster2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:11:41 -!- Tenda has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:12:29 man, please do 13:12:37 I'm not sure who actually opposes removing mimics 13:12:40 maybe dpeg? 13:12:41 me!!!! 13:12:44 mimics are hilarious 13:12:45 yeah, figures 13:12:49 they need buffs tho 13:12:50 galehar, i hear 13:12:56 they're too weak 13:13:00 yes, give mimics buff spells 13:13:03 bring back the mimics from right after constriction was added 13:13:06 new entries in Charms school 13:13:11 the problem is the bad gameplay they promote 13:13:16 some restricted kinds of mimics maybe 13:13:17 I oppose removing mimics! 13:13:18 PleasingFungus: mimics with the octo constr bug 13:13:23 wheals: yes!!! 13:13:35 dpeg: could we maybe not make feature mimics at least? 13:13:54 Who doesn't like a Lair entry that wants to kill you? 13:14:01 even that really doesn't solve the problem of "don't walk next to that....because it's a thing in the game" 13:14:09 ok, the problem is that i didn't realize that mimics don't use "force" 13:14:20 cool feature mimics: stairs, shops. bad feature mimics: statues, fountains (boring) 13:14:29 PleasingFungus: that is true. 13:14:30 well there's the same problem with traps too kind of 13:14:31 (and there's no reason to walk next to them normally) 13:14:42 except "don't walk where you haven't already" 13:14:50 What is the problem with mimics now? Throwing rocks won't work anymore, right? 13:15:25 my objection is basically the "walking next to things is bad because of mimics" 13:15:25 Ah, I see. 13:15:26 but 13:15:32 dpeg: in principle it is 'optimal play' to not walk next to features (statues, etc) that you haven't walked next to already, since they might secretly be mimics. however mimics are harmless so actually it's optimal play to do so 13:15:32 also they're not actually dangerous 13:15:33 because free xp 13:15:39 so: buff mimics! 13:15:41 so you can and should check eg every escape hatch 13:15:50 PleasingFungus: mimics are not harmless for everyone 13:15:53 to make sure it's not a mimic in case you need to retreat from something actually dangerous 13:16:11 and if we made them much more dangerous it would be worse in my view 13:16:13 (also this would be true if they were actually dangerous, too) 13:16:22 you could copy the hilarity just by making all characters like ash worshipers i guess 13:16:27 haha 13:16:55 oh i figured out the problem, i just need a return true i guess 13:17:02 increase mimic aggro range from one tile away to two? 13:17:06 that'd make things less fiddly, at least 13:17:40 and then to compensate for them losing their free first strike, we could......... 13:17:42 buff mimics 13:18:00 I think restricting them to be only notable and fairly rare things could help 13:18:10 gammafunk: yes 13:18:20 !send gammafunk monstrous orb of zot mimics 13:18:21 Sending monstrous orb of zot mimics to gammafunk. 13:18:21 runes, branch entrances, maybe portal vault entrances, maybe specific vaults 13:18:27 such as branch entries, shops and altars :) 13:18:29 only affecting stairs/portal vaults/shops would be something i guess yeah 13:18:35 (abyss, that one vault full of 80% treasure) 13:18:38 oh altars are funny too 13:18:47 and shops 13:18:48 we'd have to lose item mimics, but I'd get over it 13:19:01 gammafunk: I'd be fine with item mimics being vault-only 13:19:06 or runes 13:19:41 wait but actually why are we getting rid of item mimics if the problem is just with feature mimics 13:19:58 it's the same problem with item mimics; items are very common things 13:19:59 because it's not just with feature mimics 13:20:04 ??guru wisdom[bread 13:20:05 (but don't walk next to them!) 13:20:05 guru_wisdom[8/27]: bread rations are a lot easier to avoid than executioners 13:20:21 At the very worst, we could keep mimics by making them not-deal damage. 13:20:28 fr: executioner mimics 13:20:41 dpeg: that doesn't solve the problem with feature mimics - escape hatch mimics or w/e 13:20:46 wheals: posing as snozzcumbers? :) 13:20:56 fr: snozzcumbers 13:20:59 :( 13:21:00 fake monsters could actually be a thing 13:21:03 PleasingFungus: true, but it solves another one. 13:21:07 just a rare thing that happens 13:21:08 !send Bloax shapeshifters 13:21:09 Sending shapeshifters to Bloax. 13:21:26 You are pushed out of the long sword. 13:21:30 shapeshifters aren't berserk titans running at you at full gallop 13:21:40 I wonder if we could to something like this: after some [criterion], mimics become painless (like dummies). So they'd only bite for reals before [criterion]. What to check against? For example, player has been going to a deeper level. This way, mimics would only pose a threat while you are exploring a new level. 13:21:43 !learn add rare_messages You are pushed out of the long sword. 13:21:44 rare messages[9/9]: You are pushed out of the long sword. 13:21:47 until they turn to fog as soon as they get adjacent to you 13:21:54 ??rare_messages[8 13:21:55 rare messages[8/9]: The ravenous rune mimic is pushed out of the abyssal rune of Zot. 13:21:58 Well what if the mimics that do appear because just shapeshifters 13:22:00 ^imho this one is better 13:22:03 *become 13:22:19 gammafunk: why? 13:22:26 todo: a vault with 50 mimics on the same square 13:22:38 because mimics the enemy are not that effective or interesting after they've stopped mimicing 13:22:44 ?/squished 13:22:44 Matching entries (1): trivia[19]: // Not a single habitable place left on the level. Possible in a Zig // or if a paranoid player covers a small Trove with summons. mpr("There is some commotion, and a hidden mimic gets squished!"); if (item) destroy_item(*item, true); 13:23:03 gammafunk: so: 13:23:05 buff... 13:23:22 but I'd be fine with them turning into shapeshifters, if that seems simpler to you 13:23:24 ah, so "buff" instantly means interesting 13:23:34 it was just an idea anyhow 13:23:43 it is hard for something to be less interesting than a completely harmless monster 13:24:13 that's fine, but not terribly relevant; we can do anything we like to mimic the monster 13:24:17 -!- crate_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:24:24 like what dpeg was suggesting, but I'm not sure what the hex would be 13:24:42 I'm very confused by dpeg's mimic depth suggestion 13:24:43 tbh 13:24:58 PleasingFungus: it was just a crude, out-of-the-box idea. 13:25:02 ok 13:25:14 I think it was a condition for the mallus to be applied 13:25:16 mimics have basically no point existing outside of the early game 13:25:19 in fact 13:25:19 that he was talking about 13:25:23 why not replace cursebranded items 13:25:24 gammafunk: yes 13:25:25 with mimics 13:25:48 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1430-g3de993f: Clarify some monster enchant descriptions (#1958). 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3de993f02c4b 13:25:48 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1431-gcafd201: Make mutagenic fog give glow instead of bad mutations (#2466). 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cafd201989ae 13:25:48 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1432-g81d8d5f: Tell calling function that mimic pickup was actually successful (#8674). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=81d8d5f10c0a 13:25:50 -!- ToastyP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:25:50 they get a chomp, you get a shot at them, and they vanish to reappar mimicing something else elsewhere. (and they don't heal) 13:25:56 Altogether, I think that mimics are more about fun than content. Crawl wouldn't break if we lose them. But I like them! 13:25:57 bonus, no point to rune mimics any more 13:26:25 ideas that I liked: (1) make feature mimics limited to more interesting features, rather than statues/doors/fountains/etc (2) make mimics potentially threatening (buff, shapeshifterify, the thing geekosaur just said) (3) maybe make them aggro from an extra space away to reduce fiddliness of exploration? 13:26:35 not totally sold on #3 now that I look at it more 13:26:41 well, I think to the extent they are successful, it's when that important feature turned out to be a mimic, we seem to agree on that much 13:26:50 yeah if we do (1), (3) is not really necessary 13:27:00 players will come to expect "maybe this portal is a mimic" 13:27:02 which is ok 13:27:11 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27:14 since they're no longer expect "maybe this remove curse scroll is a mimic" 13:27:19 important feature/item (I still like rune mimics & silly mimic item vaults) 13:27:20 *expecting 13:27:26 the bazaar entrance mimic bites you 13:27:32 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:32 sure I mean, only thing with that 13:27:32 but I could survive item mimics being removed from normal generation 13:27:37 is that if we can remove some code complexity 13:27:39 though I guess that's spoilery? Idk 13:27:43 by not having them be items 13:27:46 but perhaps we can't 13:27:50 since rune mimics I guess 13:27:53 imho fun is more important than reducing code complexity 13:28:06 yeah I wouldn't want to save item mimics if it was just for the vaults, but rune mimics are great 13:28:08 you really have *that* much fun from vaults with item mimics? 13:28:15 wouldn't 13:28:25 i think that yeah, mimics work on things you'd go to automatically anyway 13:28:27 well rune mimics are generally not that good 13:28:43 they're funny maybe the first time you see it 13:28:56 portals are cool because there's a surrounding vault, a timer, everything 13:29:05 rune mimics are always funny to me but I am a child 13:29:12 yeah it's subjective, sure 13:29:33 do rune mimics even appear besides abyss and v 13:29:33 I tend to just see it on v:5 and I go there thinking "remember, the rune you see might be a mimic" 13:29:47 in abyss it's actually a bit better 13:29:53 since you could find the rune vault 13:29:58 and I should say "better" 13:30:11 i think the same with v:5 because of the compartmentalisation 13:30:21 yeah it's pretty much a vaults & abyss thing right now 13:30:29 I guess the joke could get played out if you had it in too many places 13:30:31 yeah, it's just you now the actual rune is like right over there 13:30:45 PleasingFungus: "I am a child" <3 <3 same here! 13:30:45 so even when you see a rune you might not want to take as many risks as you might otherwise? 13:30:48 most rune levels aren't situated to make the joke meaninful 13:30:55 it's interesting when trying to ninja runes (add more rune locations & mimics to pan?) 13:31:15 I think the abyssal rune mimic is the only "interesting" one really 13:31:21 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:25 those poor abyssal rune seekers... 13:31:30 :) 13:31:39 gammafunk: V:5 was interesting for me sometimes (I like to control-teleport the level). 13:31:52 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:31:52 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:31:59 oh no what did you people do 13:32:09 ruined everything, probably. what specifically 13:32:10 dpeg: funny thing is, a high-level mimic is actually dangerous for all of my speedrunners 13:32:18 I think I've even died to one or two 13:32:21 ! 13:32:26 !lg . ikiller=~mimic 13:32:27 6. gammafunk the Chiller (L2 HEIE), slain by an inept staircase mimic on D:2 on 2014-02-13 09:20:19, with 67 points after 503 turns and 0:03:59. 13:32:30 hm 13:32:32 !lg . ikiller=~mimic max=xl 13:32:32 6. gammafunk the Chiller (L9 HEIE of Sif Muna), slain by a staircase mimic on D:7 on 2013-02-11 23:04:47, with 2943 points after 5036 turns and 1:12:14. 13:32:38 if you know for sure that it's a rune that you see, ctele to the center is more of a good idea 13:33:03 but if there's a doubt, the turns you lose with ctele might hurt you, possibly 13:33:03 I guess not any high levels, oh right I lost a felid life to one 13:33:04 pfeh, felids 13:33:27 i certainly don't think the usual problems with mimics apply to them, since you literally need to get them to win 13:33:30 rune mimics! 13:33:31 \o/ 13:33:35 * dpeg realises that weightless and monpickup (yay!) in, it's "only" chunkless from this original list. After that comes the fun stuff! 13:33:41 we need more orb mimics, guys 13:33:47 folks * 13:33:54 how many do we need Zannick? 13:34:06 at least one per floor 13:34:06 at least 1 13:34:12 Zannick: thinking too small! 13:34:22 does that vault with 3 rune mimics + an orb mimic still exist 13:34:23 maybe rework the Orb card 13:34:24 also a zot:5 stair mimic 13:34:25 You have reached level 5 of the realm of Zot. The Orb of Zot is a mimic! x100 13:34:39 you go down the stairs and find the orb mimic 13:34:40 sadly no 13:34:40 no, that was removed 13:34:45 %git :/your_instructions 13:34:46 07evilmike02 * 0.11-a0-1108-gbc01596: Don't use a real hatch in nicolae_entry_your_instructions. 10(2 years, 2 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc01596d6705 13:34:46 and you realize the level is a mimic 13:34:51 i'm not sure since when abyss rune mimics were interesting incidentally 13:34:58 pretty sure they're only in that one hangedman vault or something? 13:35:11 MarvinPA: but abyss exit mimics are, we agree? 13:35:14 yeah I wasn't even sure if it could happen that much; I know I've not seen it much 13:35:20 hahaha are abyss exit mimics an actual thing 13:35:21 there's a vault with just one 13:35:27 !vault dat/des/branches/abyss.des 13:35:27 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/abyss.des;hb=HEAD 13:35:32 no there isn't 13:35:35 %git 639bcca6 13:35:35 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-1085-g639bcca: Remove an Abyss mimic vault 10(2 weeks ago, 1 file, 0+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=639bcca6ffeb 13:35:37 but there should! 13:35:46 oh i guess that got 13:35:47 yeah 13:35:53 too cruel 13:35:58 MarvinPA'd 13:36:05 oh 13:36:10 I was thinking of the vault with about four abyssal runes 13:36:13 MarvinPA: players are so evil towards you, try giving back a little :) 13:36:25 that's the hangedman one yeah 13:36:32 I'm fine with the very obvious mimic being removed, that's making things too easy 13:36:51 fr: branch entrances in abyss lead to abyss-themed versions of said branches 13:37:10 Zannick: sounds like a fun idea. go implement it and report back 13:37:12 we'll wait 13:37:20 done! 13:37:35 all branch entrances in abyss etc etc. 13:37:48 ??abyssal stair 13:37:48 I don't have a page labeled abyssal_stair in my learndb. 13:38:32 ??hydrataur 13:38:32 hydrataur[1/1]: One of four possible unique guardians at lvl 3 of the abyssal stair. Each of his nine necks ends in a javelin throwing humanoid torso, and he also buffs, heals and sprays hellfire. Carries the madness rune. 13:38:38 someday........ 13:38:49 hydrataurā€¦ 13:39:01 lobf: you never explained what we ruined 13:39:03 ?? madness 13:39:03 I don't have a page labeled madness in my learndb. Did you mean: mac, maud, md, mda. 13:39:15 mercs, maybe 13:39:30 PleasingFungus: I donā€™t know. I came in to ā€gammafunk: those poor abyssal rune seekersā€¦ā€¯ and I was worried 13:39:31 o. at some point we should decide what to do about mercs 13:39:39 lobf: excellent 13:39:46 haha 13:39:53 -!- fuuu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:41:07 koil (L4 DECj) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 13:42:47 -!- valtern has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:43:57 koil (L4 DECj) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 13:44:13 xtrpll8 (L4 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 13:44:40 erm 13:45:03 xtrpll8 (L4 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 13:46:27 xtrpll8 (L4 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 13:47:39 xtrpll8 (L4 DsMo) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (D:3) 13:50:55 so BEAM_HOLY_FLAME is called "cleansing flame" but has different effects from BEAM_HOLY, which is what Cleansing Flame invocation uses 13:50:57 go figure 13:51:58 -!- valtern has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52:14 isn't "holy" a complete mess? 13:53:43 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:54:28 yeah, i'm trying to clean things up so there are just two things: holy beams and AF_HOLY/SPWPN_HOLY_WRATH 13:55:14 was even better when BEAM_HOLY_LIGHT still existed 13:55:32 what about ZAP_HOLY_LIGHT :p 13:55:37 %git fb3b2ccdc0fcd94 13:55:38 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-3440-gfb3b2cc: Remove the unused HOLY_LIGHT beam/zap 10(3 months ago, 5 files, 10+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb3b2ccdc0fc 13:56:13 Gerad (L19 OgWr) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (Orc:2) 13:56:15 ah, i thought it removed at a different time from the beam 13:56:16 (which was completely irresistible and also not actually used by the spell called "holy light") 13:56:32 was confusing when beam and zap were removed and when the spell was removed i guessi 13:56:34 Gerad (L19 OgWr) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (Orc:2) 13:56:46 move that i from the end to the start 13:56:47 Gerad (L19 OgWr) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1118: Mimic failed to pickup its item. (Orc:2) 13:57:10 i think there is a mimic bug 13:57:22 fixed in trunk 13:57:24 i think 13:57:28 %git 13:57:28 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1432-g81d8d5f: Tell calling function that mimic pickup was actually successful (#8674). 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=81d8d5f10c0a 13:58:48 ah, just waiting for a rebuild 13:58:57 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:59 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:34