00:00:39 <|amethyst> but yeah, having two separate functions, one that uses weights and one that doesn't, is probably fine 00:04:26 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:06:25 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:53 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:54 PleasingFungus: here's a good function for you 00:06:58 _wand_range 00:07:12 I am excited already 00:07:22 ......... 00:07:24 good 00:07:26 beautiful in its simplicity 00:07:35 wow 00:07:36 I approve 00:07:48 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:08:25 odds that predates item_use.cc: 99% 00:08:31 -!- DrKe2 has left ##crawl-dev 00:08:33 %git 52a3eb8 00:08:33 07haranp02 * 0.5-a0-1466-g52a3eb8: Wands now all have range 8, rather than the undefined range they used to have. 10(5 years ago, 1 file, 27+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=52a3eb86dd38 00:08:48 huh 00:08:50 I was wrong! 00:08:56 PleasingFungus, part of the 1% 00:08:57 <_< 00:09:16 still a FIXME that's half a decade old. 'good enough' 00:09:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1374-gca99efe (34) 00:09:27 ...do we ever want to have short-range wands, honestly? 00:09:46 I guess you could nerf some of the stronger wands with that, but why would you want to nerf *wands* 00:11:44 -!- Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:08 -!- Sorbius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:15:46 -!- Amy has quit [Client Quit] 00:16:44 -!- Amy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:17:04 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:36 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:18:40 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1374-gca99efe (34) 00:20:41 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:47 uh 00:20:52 ? 00:20:55 !source mutation.cc:947 00:20:55 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc;hb=HEAD#l947 00:21:03 whoops I moved things 00:21:05 try line 936 00:21:12 through 939 00:21:22 ... 00:21:23 ...it's good to be thorough, I guess! 00:21:40 ironically, that code actually makes sense in my new setup 00:21:51 since MUTFLAG_GOOD and MUTFLAG_BAD can (theoretically) coexist 00:22:40 (MUT_WILD_MAGIC???????????????????) 00:22:45 haha 00:22:49 they're defined as 00:22:57 MUTFLAG_GOOD = 0x01, // used by benemut etc 00:22:59 MUTFLAG_BAD = 0x02, // used by malmut etc 00:23:12 so if you wanted malmut to give wild magic...? 00:23:32 -!- blackcustard has left ##crawl-dev 00:23:37 ...well, technically, malmut can give wild magic now 00:23:44 also, robustness, etc 00:24:34 ugh. this code is so bad :( 00:24:53 lemme toss this up somewhere, and someone can give me ideas for how to write in a way that is less bad 00:25:26 1learn add goodcode 00:26:51 http://pastebin.com/yzMXtLeE the mutation.h code seems reasonable, the mutation.cc code is... not good 00:27:05 in fact, it is very bad 00:29:14 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:29 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:30:58 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I'd just use zero for MT_MIN, get rid of MT_MAX, and use (NUM_MT - 1) in that assert 00:31:10 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:13 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also, that assert should be a COMPILE_CHECK instead 00:32:03 I'm not very fond of how the MT enum duplicates the MUTFLAG_ enum 00:32:08 since you have to keep them in sync 00:32:12 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:32:30 it feels like you should only need one or the other (probably MUTFLAG) 00:33:30 <|amethyst> would be easiest to have the sequential one and write (1 << blah) when you need the flag 00:33:53 <|amethyst> since (1 << blah) is a lot simpler to write than log base 2 00:34:08 the issue there is with writing mut-data.h 00:34:10 <|amethyst> and you need a NUM_ blah 00:34:17 I guess you could just have a macro 00:34:36 converting the sequential muts into flags 00:35:02 #define MFLAG(mt) (1 << mt) 00:35:23 then I guess you'd have... MFLAG(MT_GOOD) | MFLAG(MT_XOM) etc 00:35:23 <|amethyst> #define MFLAG(mt) (1 << (mt)) 00:35:31 <|amethyst> yeah 00:35:46 or you could just make a bunch of defines for each up top 00:35:49 which is fine 00:35:54 yeah that's liveable. 00:36:03 <|amethyst> could make it an inline constexpr function if you don't like #defines 00:36:14 mm? 00:36:26 oh you mean the MFLAG thing 00:36:30 <|amethyst> yeah 00:36:37 in this case I think it'd be ok 00:36:54 weird shit like check_fail() bothers me 00:36:59 especially because it pretends to be a function 00:37:06 but this is a reasonable use of defines, I think 00:38:24 <|amethyst> #define smc get_monster_data(mc) 00:38:33 :( 00:38:39 <|amethyst> yay for making function parameter names important 00:38:42 yeah I think I've seen that one 00:39:02 oh. unrelated weird thing - I'm looking at 7648 00:39:25 and there is already code specifically to handle that 00:39:36 !source ouch.cc:445 00:39:36 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc;hb=HEAD#l445 00:39:42 it just never fires 00:39:44 (so to speak) 00:40:57 <|amethyst> btw, bolt::affects_items should be renamed :) 00:41:11 ...what does it do now? 00:42:52 <|amethyst> controls whether acid damage causes corrosion, and whether it calls monster::expose_to_element 00:43:02 <|amethyst> s/whether it/whether the beam/ 00:43:14 <|amethyst> (the expose-to-element thing is separate from the acid thing) 00:45:39 mmm. do you think that's the problem with primal wave, then? 00:46:06 looks like it defaults to true 00:46:59 <|amethyst> "Similarly being engulfed in water while sticky flamed doesn't put out the flames." 00:47:14 <|amethyst> I saw otherwise when I tried it 00:47:19 <|amethyst> The water elemental engulfs you in water! 00:47:19 <|amethyst> The flames go out! 00:47:54 <|amethyst> but the player isn't reexposed every turn I think, only every hit 00:48:15 <|amethyst> to prevent being sticky flamed while wet would require code elsewhere 00:48:25 <|amethyst> either in the beam code or the enchantment code 00:48:36 I'd lean toward the code that ticks down sticky flame 00:48:41 player-reacts.cc, right? 00:48:45 <|amethyst> well 00:48:52 oh that'd just turn it off afterward 00:49:06 <|amethyst> yeah, you'd get the message about being covered in flames and then the flames going out 00:49:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49:52 that's not *very* wrong, but it might be better to put it in enchant code, yeah 00:50:30 <|amethyst> oh 00:50:46 <|amethyst> napalm_player already returns false if duration[DUR_WATER_HOLD] 00:51:29 I should test if that works 00:51:38 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:51:57 <|amethyst> The orc wizard sprays you with burning goo. 00:51:58 yep 00:51:58 <|amethyst> The sticky flame hits you! 00:52:04 <|amethyst> but I don't have the duration 00:52:08 <|amethyst> I mean, I'm not burning 00:52:13 yeah I tested with mottled dragons 00:52:14 and likewise 00:52:19 so it seems like the actual ticket has been fixed 00:52:23 it's just the comments that are still standing 00:52:31 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:35 kind of a funny state of affairs 00:53:36 <|amethyst> MR_RES_STICKY_FLAME should fix the first one 00:53:38 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:47 seems a pretty simple fix, yeah 00:53:58 (though still good to do) 00:54:00 I'm more perplexed by the aquamancer thing 00:54:01 <|amethyst> the pushing bit might be more complicated, and fixing it could have side-effects 00:54:09 not even the pushing thing 00:54:11 <|amethyst> primal wave might just need an expose call 00:55:21 ...what on earth is 'metal orb' 00:55:37 <|amethyst> (I also like how "beam_hits_actor" really means "try_knockback_actor" 00:55:39 <|amethyst> ) 00:55:44 goodcode 00:55:46 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:56:19 metal orb seems to be a special effect that no longer exists? 00:58:57 <|amethyst> oh 00:59:52 ? 01:00:00 <|amethyst> testing something 01:00:13 Grunt: yo 01:00:53 <|amethyst> item destruction removal didn't break this (the old code didn't expose to BEAM_WATER either), but 01:01:24 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:03:22 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1375-g78abf48: Remove a mysterious metal orb 10(78 seconds ago, 1 file, 0+ 12-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=78abf485f421 01:04:22 <|amethyst> is bolt of cold supposed to slow non-rC draconians? 01:04:59 good question 01:05:34 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=34ed474be02b63e6781e0a0f29cd305de5cb3c80 01:05:36 "no" 01:05:39 <|amethyst> hm, didn't seem to do so in 0.14 either 01:06:05 <|amethyst> %git 4412034 01:06:06 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1116-g4412034: Destroy item destruction 10(2 weeks ago, 14 files, 32+ 260-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4412034ca0e5 01:06:10 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:06:20 did gammafunk also destroy cold bolts not slowing draconians 01:06:32 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:06:44 <|amethyst> ohh 01:06:46 <|amethyst> never mind 01:07:00 <|amethyst> expose_player_to_element had one extra parameter then 01:07:22 <|amethyst> which was before slow_cold_blooded 01:07:32 <|amethyst> so that true, false meant "do destroy inventory, don't slow cold-blooded" 01:07:40 <|amethyst> I was thinking backwards 01:07:56 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:08:15 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 01:10:04 a common problem 01:10:38 -!- Perryman has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:13:31 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:13:33 ...this uses goto 01:13:35 of course it does 01:15:54 also it's fundamentally flawed 01:15:56 <|amethyst> replace that with setjmp/longjmp, it's more powerful 01:16:14 wait nvm I see what it's doing 01:16:16 that's... something 01:16:21 ~goto~ 01:20:04 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:09 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:30:50 -!- Execuda has quit [Client Quit] 01:33:56 { MUT_DEFORMED, 8, 1, MUTFLAG_BAD | MUTFLAG_XOM | MUTFLAG_CORRUPT | MUTFLAG_QAZLAL 01:34:00 everyone likes deformations 01:34:08 I guess 01:37:29 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:40:08 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:42:14 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:19 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:46:26 http://sprunge.us/LQXY here's a thing that compiles. 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Use !messages to read them. 07:17:02 wheals: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 07:17:05 !messages 07:17:05 (1/2) |amethyst said (15h 51m 59s ago): thanks for the monster heads-up! It wasn't necessary, but now we can distinguish that from other special moves like red devil hop. 07:17:05 !messages 07:17:06 (1/1) Grunt said (13h 29m 25s ago): Yes, it is intentional. 07:17:24 ah, ok 07:21:08 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:23:57 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:23:58 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25:39 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 07:33:24 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:34:19 huh, kobolds have the third-lowest int of any race 07:34:38 er,4th, forgot ghouls 07:35:35 -!- djinni has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 07:35:36 -!- ivan`` has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 07:39:47 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 07:40:30 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:04 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:44:35 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 07:45:05 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:45:15 -!- Amnekian has quit [] 07:47:13 -!- evablue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:48:34 -!- LNCP has quit [Quit: LNCP] 07:49:05 goodcode: oppressor->is_monster() 07:53:13 ??monsters 07:53:14 4.1[3/7]: what's really overpowered in 4.1 elliott: monsters 07:53:23 I liked the old one better 07:53:55 ??monster 07:53:55 4.1[3/7]: what's really overpowered in 4.1 elliott: monsters 08:00:54 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:02:49 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:03:12 !learn add gammafunk see {gammafunk[1]} 08:03:12 gammafunk[7/7]: see {gammafunk[1]} 08:03:17 ??gammafunk[7] 08:03:17 gammafunk[1/7]: TODO: cut monster-in-wall code, vault guards wielding while zerked, ally piety, arte granting sinv + evocable break unseen invis, new sack of spiders, stair placement after vaults in level gen, save the liches, maybe sub death cobs for jiangshi at lower prob., monsters resisting elemental attacks could id their armour? 08:03:24 !learn del gammafunk[7] 08:03:24 Deleted gammafunk[7/7]: see {gammafunk[1]} 08:03:45 !learn add monsters dirty cheaters 08:03:46 monsters[3/3]: dirty cheaters 08:03:48 oh 08:03:50 ??monsters[2] 08:03:51 monsters[2/3]: The most up-to-date code for %?? and %? can be found at http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=monster-trunk.git , or clone from http://s-z.org/neil/git/monster-trunk.git , branch 'bleeding-edge-crawl'. 08:04:23 !learn del monsters[1] 08:04:24 Deleted monsters[1/3]: see {4.1[3]} 08:04:32 might as well default to useful information 08:05:00 !learn add monsters see {4.1[3]} 08:05:01 monsters[3/3]: see {4.1[3]} 08:05:04 ??monsters[3] 08:05:04 4.1[3/7]: what's really overpowered in 4.1 elliott: monsters 08:05:22 guess who added that hiding redirect 08:05:33 ...notcluie 08:05:38 hint: it wasn't cluie 08:05:43 yes 08:05:46 oh then I give up 08:06:01 oh.. 08:06:39 well keeping that redirect at the end is like my tribute to him, may he rip in peace 08:07:19 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:07:19 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:08:10 -!- scummos| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:25 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:09:29 -!- Amy has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:19:01 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:44 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:22 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 08:38:24 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1377-gf1faa11: Add wandering mushroom to the default runrest_ignore_monster (#8665). 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f1faa11858e0 08:38:24 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1378-gb59d38d: Shuffle halfling stats (crate). 10(59 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b59d38d563bf 08:38:24 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1379-gb03d3d0: Remove giant fireflies. 10(36 minutes ago, 21 files, 24+ 129-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b03d3d0b07f0 08:38:24 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-1380-g1dfcc07: Show HP/MP percentages in a slightly neater manner. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dfcc073976b 08:43:09 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:43:15 -!- Staplegun has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46:52 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:47:10 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:45 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 08:50:06 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:51:35 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:54:18 they ride vampire mosquitos... 08:54:19 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:57:46 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:01:01 -!- Rjs has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:01:11 vampire mosquito (03y) | Spd: 19 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Dam: 1305(vampiric) | 07undead, evil, fly | Res: 06magic(20), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 04rot | XP: 179 | Sz: little | Int: insect. 09:01:11 %??Vampire mosquito 09:01:11 Bloax: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:01:18 spriggan (15i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 7 | HP: 16-34 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 15 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible | Res: 06magic(65) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 218 | Sz: little | Int: high. 09:01:18 %??Spriggan 09:01:23 !messages 09:01:23 (1/1) johnstein said (9h 27m 23s ago): Ok, I added your hpregen patch to a version on DBRO (dev.berotato.org). seems to work. yay 09:01:33 c: 09:03:33 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:32 b03d3d0 looks like it does bad things to foxfire card? like making it crash or something 09:05:55 (and also making it possible to get red wasps at power 1) 09:06:32 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 09:07:40 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:09:00 gammafunk: you should totally go check it out 09:09:37 yeah, right foxfire could make fireflies 09:10:15 Bloax: I have to sit down and look at regen rates more carefully before I can decide what I think about that 09:11:10 for most species hp regen seems fine, but I could see it being a problem where low-hp species had problems, but the issue to fix in my mind is bad regen properties for low-hp species 09:11:22 not any kind of across-the-board buff to regen 09:11:22 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140414143035]] 09:12:24 MarvinPA: are you going to fix the foxfire card? 09:12:45 <|amethyst> I'm testing a fix now 09:13:12 s/MarvinPA/|amethsyt/ 09:13:27 dev shuffle 09:13:29 aha 09:14:19 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:15:09 -!- netkitten_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:15:18 oh my 09:15:23 now that i think of it - it's a mummy buff too!! 09:15:58 <|amethyst> It's also a centaur buff 09:16:04 <|amethyst> which is surely needed 09:16:25 it's true, I've never even won a Ce 09:16:28 well it's also a spriggan buff 09:16:39 also surely needed 09:16:44 well yes 09:16:53 now you won't have to spend as much time running away 09:16:57 oh dear 09:20:10 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:27:09 -!- Crawl_gg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:31:27 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:34:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1381-gc201ef4: Fix a vault syntax error. 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c201ef449272 09:34:40 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1382-ga0303cb: Fix foxfire (MarvinPA) 10(21 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a0303cb041ea 09:35:30 heh, i got hippogriffs 09:36:09 if only it'd been test spawners 09:38:07 <|amethyst> I guess maybe I should have added a COMPILE_CHECK there for num_flytypes > 2 09:39:45 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:20 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:43:28 -!- LNCP has quit [Quit: LNCP] 09:46:27 -!- atomikkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:46:57 -!- [1]AtomikKrab is now known as AtomikKrab 09:50:14 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:22 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:26 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:41 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:04:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:11 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:08:21 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:51 -!- Orfax has quit [] 10:12:30 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:17:24 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:27 wheals: tell me about orb of frag 10:19:38 it was like orb of elec, but earth 10:19:39 grepping around finds nothing; was it pre-stone-soup? 10:19:49 check out removed_spells.txt 10:19:53 or whatever it 10:19:55 heh 10:19:56 hm 10:19:58 ??removed spells 10:19:58 spells that do not exist[1/3]: air walk, portal, maxwell's silver hammer, eringya's surprising bouquet, twist, symbol of torment, all divinations spells, banishment, teleport self, bolt of iron, ice shard, fling icicle, tomb of doroklohe, levitation, extension, bone shards, berserk, resist poison, tame beasts, alter self, orb of electrocution, tukima's vorpal blade, create noise 10:20:01 ??removed spells[$ 10:20:01 spells that do not exist[3/3]: http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/docs/obsolete/cut_spells.txt;hb=HEAD 10:20:04 that 10:20:14 ah, there it is 10:20:27 ??spells that do not exist[2 10:20:27 looking at 0.3, it describes "fragmentation" (LRD?) as a 'replacement for orb of frag' 10:20:27 spells that do not exist[2/3]: Projected Noise, See Invisible, Insulation, Fulsome Distillation, Evaporate, Cigotuvi's Degeneration, Polymorph, Dig, Summon Scorpions, Song of Shielding, Ice Storm, Mass Abjuration, Summon Ugly Thing, Summon Dragon, Demonic Horde 10:20:28 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:20:31 the more you know 10:21:01 yeah frag is lrd, i think the zap was ZAP_FRAGMENTATION 10:21:25 bzzt 10:21:46 kind of funny that the orb of frag handling code stuck around for a decade longer than the spell itself 10:21:53 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:22:07 ~string comparisons~ 10:22:20 there is no need for another air spell... air spells are already very common (i.e,. this level nine spell occurred in two books!) 10:22:51 wind walk? 10:22:58 -!- jacobscrackers has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:23:06 speaking of air spells are monster supposed to be completely helpless when they get zapped around corners 10:23:14 air walk, right 10:23:22 yep 10:24:05 it just seems weird you can distract a monster that would normally chase you by spamming shock at it out of los 10:24:07 <|amethyst> why does lightning bolt still work out of LOS anyway? 10:24:43 at the very least it could check the spot where it lost sight of you 10:24:45 or something 10:28:23 |amethyst: well it's rather convenient for nasty lair entrance oklobs 10:28:40 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:54 or any oklobs next to diggable walls 10:29:00 <|amethyst> Bloax: yes, so were summons working out of LOS 10:29:06 wow alter self 10:29:08 that brings back memories 10:29:24 Eronarn: What did it do? 10:29:33 Bloax: tmut spell to mutate yourself 10:29:37 zap-bouncing is quite a lot more situational than out-of-LOS summons. 10:29:44 sounds 10:29:46 ..fun 10:29:59 alter self scumming in lair to prep for zot 10:30:02 -!- xnavy is now known as Guest92605 10:30:02 -!- Guest92605 has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 10:30:02 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 10:30:09 ??disrupt 10:30:09 disrupt ~ disruption ~ undeadhunter[1/1]: A +7,+7 great mace with rN+. Has its own effect identical to the old disruption brand: a 2/3 chance of up to quadruple damage, with an average of 250% damage, but only against undead. 10:30:11 huh 10:30:16 what did 'disrupt' do? 10:30:21 SPFLAG_DEVEL 10:30:21 hm 10:30:41 ??extension 10:30:41 extension ~ tension[1/3]: dangerousness of everything in LOS, checks # of monsters, monster experience value, monster hp (almost-dead monsters are of little threat), monster enchantments (confusion, haste, berserk, might, etc.), player current hp, whether you're in the abyss (*3/2 tension) 10:30:51 also, was 'extension' as dumb as I think it was 10:30:56 maybe it gave disrupt brand 10:32:08 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32:18 was disrupt brand the anti-undead thing that undeadhunter has 10:32:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:32:46 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:55 PleasingFungus: yes 10:33:13 it only showed up on blunt weapons because D&D 10:33:15 so many brand spells 10:33:21 it was quite rare 10:33:26 should've been a dragonslay brand spell 10:33:35 and an anti-orc racism brand spell 10:33:41 extension was super dumb; it just extended the duration of other spells 10:33:45 haha 10:33:48 yep I had a feeling 10:34:02 did it work on ddoor 10:34:22 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:36:50 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:58 -!- Amnekian has quit [] 10:40:18 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:43:28 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:43:52 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:19 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:16 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:47:56 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:07 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:51:33 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:53:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:55:42 Can't get out from tree form in speedrun by fface 11:00:10 -!- browncustard has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:29 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 11:00:35 -!- browncustard has quit [Client Quit] 11:02:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:04 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:09:17 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:30 that's some great mantis 11:09:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:11:42 ? 11:12:59 8667 11:13:47 <|amethyst> Ah 11:14:00 <|amethyst> he didn't realise that trying to move takes no time and therefore doesn't leave the form 11:14:17 ohh 11:14:35 ...does 'speedrun' mean 'sprint'? 11:14:40 though the "just photosynthesise" message is gone now at least 11:14:42 <|amethyst> I think so? 11:14:46 alas :( 11:14:49 funny messages 11:15:10 <|amethyst> You stuff the meat ration up your roots! 11:15:20 gross 11:15:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140606030206]] 11:16:39 <|amethyst> only simulacrum was changed so far, not sublimation, right? 11:16:42 <|amethyst> in trunk 11:16:47 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:17:22 think so, since even if chunk types go away chunk sub could stay 11:19:51 The simulacra description needs to be updated 11:19:52 oops 11:21:27 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:22:56 <|amethyst> also, monster simulacrum no longer requires chunks either, right? 11:23:36 yeah, it's like animate dead 11:23:40 right 11:25:39 !send wheals arrows 11:25:40 Sending arrows to wheals. 11:25:55 The arrow misses wheals. 11:26:03 The arrow hits Grunt!!!!!! 11:26:28 * Grunt is lightly wounded. The helpless wheals fails to defend himself. You open wheals like a pillowcase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11:29:45 btw, not long after killing vashnia i got to kill asterion too... >_> 11:32:15 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:34:14 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:14 -!- netkitten_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:53 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:12 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:35:15 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:21 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:35:56 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1383-g9704825: Update the description of the simulacra spell 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9704825b4555 11:37:42 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:38:39 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1384-g3b29f72: Remove vestiges of Simulacrum-chunk interactions. 10(13 minutes ago, 8 files, 14+ 57-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b29f72d670d 11:38:55 <|amethyst> Just about every place that commit touches should be stripped further for chunkless 11:39:09 <|amethyst> since the Simulacrum checks were usually next to the Sublimation checks 11:40:03 -!- nnqkj has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:40:19 yeah, I have a local branch started a little while ago to 'remove chunks' but I didn't finish it since we had more debating to do 11:40:55 I think we have a better idea about how to make 'chunkless' work, but I need to look over dpeg's email more and probably chat with him a bit 11:40:55 <|amethyst> gammafunk: oh, I thought current chunkless changed sublimation 11:41:05 yeah, you can only sublim from corpses iirc 11:41:13 %git :/sublim 11:41:14 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-264-g4844ac9: Limit self-sublimation to 90% of current HP. 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4844ac90122d 11:41:17 nope 11:41:34 <|amethyst> %git 437dc98b 11:41:34 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-1219-g437dc98: Allow Sublimation of Blood to affect corpses on the ground. 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 44+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=437dc98bd6d4 11:42:25 <|amethyst> ah, no, it allows that in addition 11:42:27 I don't think that's in trunk, unless I missed something? 11:42:35 right, not in trunk 11:42:40 The current preference was to have Sublimation act only on self, IIRC. 11:42:40 <|amethyst> right, I was talking about chunkless branch 11:42:48 and yeah, wasn't aware that it allowed chunks still 11:43:02 right, and MarvinPA pointed out we should probably just make it sublim self only 11:43:14 since subliming a whole corpse is a bit too powerful 11:43:36 Crystal Corpse of Energy 11:43:48 Corpse Ball of Energy maybe 11:44:00 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:44:20 <|amethyst> If that happens it should probably lose SPFLAG_CORPSE_VIOLATING 11:44:30 oh, good call 11:44:48 <|amethyst> unless it is decided that that falls under the same special case as Necromutation 11:45:10 <|amethyst> but I think not, because it's not your *corpse* you're violating with sublimation 11:45:15 I guess it should violate whatever conduct regen violates 11:45:26 regen the spell, I mean 11:45:29 yes 11:45:34 <|amethyst> which happens by virtue of being necromancy 11:45:50 <|amethyst> Fedhas doesn't mind regen 11:47:19 * Grunt remembers using Doom Knight as a Fedhasite :b 11:47:55 -!- myrmidette has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:31 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:53:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:52 Monsters blinking strangely by silentsnack 11:58:30 first with one eye, then with the other 11:58:39 oh hey I know what caused this 11:58:44 %git :/BLINKER 11:58:44 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-1357-g5447454: Change a hardcoded list to a monster flag. 10(23 hours ago, 4 files, 22+ 24-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=54474545af33 11:58:46 <|amethyst> I have a fix 11:58:55 fast! 11:59:08 oh 11:59:12 good missing parentheses there 11:59:31 <|amethyst> I'm going to simplify a bit instead of adding parens 11:59:57 hahaha, I see it now 11:59:59 that's great 12:02:01 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1385-g2d75d1c: Don't make caught monsters blink. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d75d1c3f87e 12:03:18 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:03:52 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 12:04:12 didn't add the bug number! 12:04:16 rip 12:04:17 <|amethyst> oops 12:04:20 no no no 12:04:23 ??|amethyst 12:04:23 |amethyst[1/10]: <|amethyst> doh 12:04:47 ??gammafunk[6] 12:04:47 gammafunk[6/6]: <|amethyst> that's dumb 12:05:18 ??dumb 12:05:18 dumb ~ dump[1/1]: Press # in game, then just type &dump on ##crawl (experimental, should work with all the servers). 12:05:27 ??dog 12:05:27 I don't have a page labeled dog in my learndb. Did you mean: bog, dg, dig, doh, doy, fog, hog, log, og, pog. 12:05:29 er 12:05:30 ??doh 12:05:30 |amethyst[1/10]: <|amethyst> doh 12:07:00 -!- WereVolvo1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:07:49 ??doy 12:07:49 doy[1/3]: Who stashes things? Seriously! 12:07:56 ??bog 12:07:57 bog[1/1]: Originally "B.O.G." for Brian's Orc God, was the (implied) deity associated with orc priest smiting in early 4.0 code. References to Bog were removed from the 4.0 code. {Beogh} is Bog's descendant, Stone Soup's god of the orcs. 12:08:03 huh 12:08:19 ??po 12:08:19 I don't have a page labeled po in my learndb. Did you mean: co, fo, ho, lo, mo, o, op, pa, pm, pn, pog, pr. 12:08:21 ??pog 12:08:21 passage of golubria[1/3]: A spell that lets you set up controlled teleport traps on the floor. Acts like the portal gun in Portal, but without the fancy physics. Something walks in one end and appears out the other, player and monsters included. Level 4 Tloc, in books of Warp and Burglary. Can't be cast on -cTele levels. Not affected by -Tele or stasis. 12:08:29 -!- somebody1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:08:40 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: doy, btw, wrote the Ashenzari bot upon which Cheibriados is based 12:08:46 <|amethyst> s/upon/on/ 12:08:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 12:09:19 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:11:32 <|amethyst> ??|amethyst[5] 12:11:32 |amethyst[5/10]: that souds lame-flavoured 12:12:05 ouch, spelling error 12:12:29 <|amethyst> !learn edit |amethyst[5] s/souds/sounds/ 12:12:29 |amethyst[5/10]: that sounds lame-flavoured 12:12:34 <|amethyst> no one will ever know 12:12:41 <|amethyst> unless they read the logs I guess 12:12:47 never read logs 12:12:52 imho 12:12:55 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 12:12:56 <|amethyst> Logs are for the NSA! 12:12:58 -!- Morik_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13:02 food nsa? 12:13:12 I mean I assume I didn't notice it at the time 12:14:47 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:15:18 -!- WereVolvo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15:45 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:16:22 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1384-g3b29f72 (34) 12:16:38 -!- KurzedMetal1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20:56 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:13 -!- Dekker3D has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:23:21 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:24:46 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:25:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:27:04 -!- bfein__ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:29:46 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:00 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:08 -!- Redz has left ##crawl-dev 12:32:15 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:35:02 -!- Amnesiac has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:34 -!- Amnesiac has left ##crawl-dev 12:41:18 -!- RZX has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0.1/20140506152807]] 12:50:25 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:58:43 -!- Amnekian has quit [] 12:59:36 -!- crate_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01:02 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:04:16 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 13:05:12 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 13:06:25 -!- WITCHCRAFT has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:18:13 -!- HamsterSaurusMex has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:19:00 -!- rophy has quit [Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-ng.org/] 13:23:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:32:27 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:33:36 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 13:38:20 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:41:12 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:21 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:53 -!- LNCP has quit [Quit: LNCP] 13:51:05 -!- CampinSam has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 13:51:11 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:31 -!- LNCP has quit [Client Quit] 13:57:00 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:58:24 Archer statues unable to attack ally from out of player LOS by lessens 13:59:56 are multiple dungeon entrances back? 14:00:19 -!- Gelos_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:01:47 Sometimes they exist in entry vaults, I heard the standard it to avoid them unless necessary for the vault to look pretty. 14:01:56 oh 14:01:58 okay 14:02:25 -!- Justoneman has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:02:45 On rare occasions I've seen more than one, or my character starting on an exit that wasn't in the arrival vault 14:03:37 same 14:04:08 magipoints: I think all dungeon exits are in arrival vaults? Some of them probably don't look vault-y though. 14:04:10 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:29 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:44 -!- Lasty1 is now known as Lasty 14:05:00 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:11 |amethyst: doh 14:05:15 It's been a while since I've seen it so it may have been from an issue that was already fixed 14:05:16 and thanks 14:06:53 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:12:18 -!- KurzedMetal2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:13:58 -!- Bazzie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:15:24 -!- M1zzu has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:16:09 It happens because there are some minivaults that place on D:1 that can place upstairs, which convert into dungeon exits. 14:16:32 I've been meaning to do either or both of two things: 14:16:50 1) have those vaults don't place (upstairs on) D:1; or 14:17:05 2) add some functionality to treat entry vault stairs preferentially for stair culling purposes. 14:18:17 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:21:38 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:21:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:23:08 -!- Cheibrodos has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:51 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:27:44 <|amethyst> Grunt: could turn vault-placed <[({ into > instead :) 14:27:53 <|amethyst> on D:1 that is 14:27:59 <|amethyst> as a variant of 1) 14:28:22 <|amethyst> that would need exception for the arrival vaults of course 14:28:48 How do the people feel about different styles of shoal ends 14:28:48 Cheibrodos: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 14:30:04 -!- rbrrk has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:31:52 -!- Roarke has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:07 FR Can someone make it so that Apportation no longer tries to target corpses? 14:32:11 It's really useless and annoying 14:32:32 Roarke I think that was agreed to be a good change but nobody has done it yet. 14:33:02 reaverb I see, cool. Just knowing you guys thought about it is enough 14:33:10 <|amethyst> hm 14:33:42 <|amethyst> how to do that while still allowing x**** to cycle through corpses? 14:34:02 -!- andrewhl has quit [Quit: andrewhl] 14:34:29 Yeah I have no idea about apport's code and how any exclusions would work 14:34:48 ^ is probably why it has not been implemented :D 14:35:21 Yeah, there are a lot of little things that get affected with the recent changes 14:35:22 I don't think that's a place were code is regularly modified. 14:35:34 Speaking of which, is NewSimulacrum implemented? 14:35:41 As in corpses off the ground, etc. 14:35:49 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:35:52 Or is that still just in chunkless 14:36:00 That's in trunk. 14:36:22 I think the spell description needs changing, then. 14:36:32 I was just watching DrKe play and it still says "a piece of flesh in hand" 14:36:34 new sublimation (i.e, only works on hp) would should probably be in Trunk too somebody impelmented. 14:36:40 %git :/descri 14:36:41 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1383-g9704825: Update the description of the simulacra spell 10(3 hours ago, 1 file, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9704825b4555 14:36:51 Hm, I guess he hasn't updated his game 14:37:00 %version 14:37:01 trunk: 0.15-a0-1374-gca99efe; 0.14: 0.14.1-22-g2730a98; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 14:37:12 no sever updates since probably. 14:37:45 (The higher the second to last number is in those version numbers, the more recent that version is.) 14:38:03 83 versus 74 yeah 14:38:59 ??corpse slap 14:39:00 corpse slap[1/1]: The act of Portal Projectiling a corpse just before an enemy, then Corpse Rotting it. Gone in 0.15. 14:39:04 rip 14:39:15 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:40:04 !tell PleasingFungus where did this line: "took a few minutes for crawl-dev to figure out how that last snippet ever worked in the first place" come from. 14:40:05 reaverb: OK, I'll let pleasingfungus know. 14:40:10 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:15 1tell PleasingFungus ? 14:40:54 I'm not gonna lie I'm kind of sad about the Simulacrum change 14:41:18 It loses a lot of tactical utility when you can't carry 9 chunks of dragon/titan/whatever and instantly create an army 14:42:51 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:45:41 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 14:50:19 -!- Amnekian has quit [] 14:52:36 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:26 -!- Cheibrodos has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:19 Any chance of Shroud of Golubria getting the RMsl/DMsl treatment? 14:57:01 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58:10 Unlikely 14:58:26 Well I dunno actually 14:58:50 But it doesn't seem like a thing that blocks like 10 damage's worth of attacks gets to be permanent 14:59:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:00:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:01:14