00:00:33 i think if berserk under chei stays forbidden, he probably shouldn't suppress the haste from deliberate berserk (since he doesn't suppress the haste from deliberate haste) 00:00:50 for consistency's sake 00:00:58 and also you wouldn't have to bother fixing that bug i guess :P 00:01:17 <|amethyst> johnstein: you can change the regex in the webtiles config 00:01:25 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.1-19-g9964f44 00:01:35 tempting 00:01:35 <|amethyst> I hadn't really considered before that it was different between console and webtiles 00:01:37 |amethyst: yea I was about to check out the code for that 00:02:08 idk. i don't really feel strongly about berserk/chei interactions, I guess. the whole thing where berserk is a "fast" ability (for stasis & chei purposes) has always struck me as a little odd 00:02:25 but not for design reasons, just intuition, which isn't really important 00:02:38 !lg bh s=tiles 00:02:38 1554 games for bh: 1349x false, 205x true 00:02:59 if you allow hastezerk you will make tilessplat players better 00:03:01 looks like bh must have registered his other accounts back in his console days 00:03:18 hm, it is a good point that stasis blocks berserk completely rather than just the haste effect 00:03:33 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:03:38 so maybe chei should block *rage completely instead of just the haste 00:03:59 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 00:04:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:04:29 maybe 00:04:55 -!- PsyMar has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:05:14 at the very least that would be nice from a players perspective because jesus hasteless berserk is bad 00:05:52 I wonder if dpeg has an opinion. chei is his baby, right? 00:06:33 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:06:59 third option: allow haste under chei 00:07:23 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:35 I like the idea of allowing haste with penance, now that losing 15 str won't make you overloaded 00:07:49 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:08:08 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:08:11 it's not like TSO blocks your parrows. 00:08:12 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:08:17 rchandra: ...that's already the case 00:08:28 rchandra: it's only berserk haste under penance that gets blocked 00:09:09 the things you learn. sorry. 00:09:18 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1274-g1aca2ce (34) 00:09:31 Webtiles server restarted. 00:10:44 gonna change it so that the berserk that puts you into penance doesn't slow you, I think. chei shouldn't be slowing you while giving you nothing 00:10:48 that's double-dipping! 00:11:09 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:19 that sounds like it makes less sense than basically any other option 00:11:37 less sense than "No God forces you to slow down"? 00:11:47 idk. tso doesn't give you the halo under penance 00:11:54 -!- darktwinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:00 <|amethyst> getting slow from berserk isn't a god effect 00:12:01 what? 00:12:04 <|amethyst> it's what berserk does 00:12:07 yeah 00:12:13 that's not what I'm talking about 00:12:14 I'm talking about 00:12:18 -!- darktwinge has quit [Client Quit] 00:12:24 <|amethyst> oh 00:12:26 -!- darktwinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:31 oh by slow you mean "not haste" 00:12:32 <|amethyst> by "slowing" you mean "cancelling haste" 00:12:33 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:34 haha 00:12:45 !source misc.cc:1324 00:12:45 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/misc.cc;hb=HEAD#l1324 00:12:51 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:12:56 should be if (you_worship(GOD_CHEIBRIADOS) && !player_under_penance()) 00:12:59 -!- darktwinge has quit [Client Quit] 00:13:03 and also wherever the actual effect is applied... 00:13:15 ah, found it 00:13:35 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14.1-19-g9964f44 (34) 00:13:49 PleasingFungus: Might want to move that out of misc.cc while you're at it. 00:13:57 Maybe godpassive.cc 00:13:57 where would it go? 00:14:01 uh 00:14:06 that's the berserk ability 00:14:11 ability.cc 00:14:12 clearly needs to go in berserk.cc 00:14:29 ability.cc is reasonable but should be a separate commit 00:14:36 PleasingFungus: Of course. 00:15:04 Oh, did you see that HACK ALRET for crawl code twitter? 00:15:25 what 00:15:52 HACK ALERT: In the following several functions, want_move is true if the player is travelling. If that is the case, things must be considered one square closer to the player, since we don't yet know where the player will be next turn. 00:15:58 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:16:02 !source misc.cc:1382 00:16:02 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/misc.cc;hb=HEAD#l1382 00:16:33 that's a good comment 00:17:19 I like how that means autotravelling is functionally differant from not autotravelling. 00:17:55 crawl.... 00:18:23 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:20:34 heh. the slow is apparently an intentional part of the penance 00:20:39 better than nethack autopickup, anyway. 00:20:44 according to the comment 00:21:07 rchandra: Yes I've heard stories about nethack autopickup. 00:21:31 Like turning it on the grab an item as you fall through a shaft, when normally that would be impossible. 00:23:47 !learn add goodcode[$] https://twitter.com/crawlcode 00:23:48 goodcode[11/11]: https://twitter.com/crawlcode 00:25:52 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26:16 <3 00:26:29 ha, the doc-comment for go_berserk has an @returns 00:26:33 not so useful 00:27:42 <|amethyst> ? 00:27:59 (as far as I can tell, it should be @return) 00:28:15 There are a lot of @returns in the source. 00:28:16 <|amethyst> both work 00:28:18 huh 00:28:23 I blame xcode's highlighting 00:28:28 <|amethyst> Though we should probably be consistent 00:28:33 I'll change it. 00:28:39 no, don't 00:28:43 I'm about to move the function, remember? 00:28:53 PleasingFungus: Ok, go ahead, I'll change it when you are done :D 00:28:57 ha 00:29:15 <|amethyst> we have more @returnses than @returns 00:29:23 dang 00:29:31 but @return turns a nice shade of green in xcode... 00:29:33 and it's shorter! 00:30:05 I'm automating this so either way is fine. 00:30:14 <|amethyst> change them all to @result 00:30:25 <|amethyst> or \result :) 00:30:36 I don't care since I haven't set up vim to highlight \@returns? yet. 00:31:03 @result turns green too! 00:31:04 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:08 so I'm fine with that :) 00:31:18 -!- APV has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:32:10 I mildly prefer @return so I don't have to deal with .lua and .js which already use it. 00:33:10 <|amethyst> yeah, @return is fine 00:33:41 I wonder if it'd make more sense to make go_berserk a method of player 00:33:49 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: already is 00:33:51 yes 00:34:00 so moving misc.cc's go_berserk to just be that 00:34:04 <|amethyst> oh 00:34:15 as opposed to 00:34:18 <|amethyst> yeah, that sounds reasonable 00:34:24 !source player-act.cc:724 00:34:24 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/player-act.cc;hb=HEAD#l724 00:34:27 two go_berserk()s wow. 00:34:28 which is a little silly 00:34:36 reaverb: well, sort of 00:36:23 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: you'd have to make the method (in actor and monster too) return bool 00:36:42 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: so that the call in potion.cc can see whether it succeeded 00:36:48 yeah, I'm realizing that now 00:36:51 not a big deal, though 00:36:58 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:37:41 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also note that the call in player::attacking is actually to the method, so doesn't have to change 00:39:00 <|amethyst> other than that one, all the instances of /[^_>:]go_berserk/ appear to refer to the function 00:39:15 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:58 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:43:58 dang, this needs a lot of imports added to player-act.cc 00:44:00 :( 00:44:21 and I can't even remove the misc.h imports from the others... 00:44:28 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 00:44:59 If it can't happen it can't happen, fix the bug and see if you can work out moving the function later. 00:45:10 no I just finished moving it 00:45:17 Oh, hmm. 00:45:21 just sad at having to add 5 imports 00:46:40 Yes 5 imports is a little bad. Hmm. 00:47:24 <|amethyst> are there any #includes you can remove from misc.cc? 00:47:29 oh 00:47:30 good question 00:47:34 on Fedhas: disintegration doesn't pass through harmlessly(03:15:56) atomikkrab: and no message that FEDHAS DOES NOT LIKE THIS PLAN 00:47:42 mantis it? 00:47:48 <|amethyst> yeah 00:48:47 PleasingFungus: Remeber some of those #includes might be axable because another #include is #including it. 00:49:02 |amethyst: nope :( 00:49:03 Might not be the case here though. 00:49:11 reaverb: this seems like something a static analysis tool might be able to deduce 00:49:17 as far as I can tell, I can't remove anything 00:49:32 PleasingFungus: I would love for there to be a static analysis tool like that. 00:49:42 there isn't? really? 00:49:53 Only one I've found include-what-you-use, which has some dependances. 00:49:59 (clang I think?) 00:51:10 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:51:32 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:52:13 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:52:54 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:53:00 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:55:29 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1275-g1ac1213: Don't misleadingly claim Chei hates +Rage/*Rage (geekosaur) 10(49 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ac1213cae78 00:57:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1276-g523292d: Actually mark +Rage forbidden for Chei 10(48 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=523292d8cfa7 00:57:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1277-g6f0af88: Don't make Chei slow you if you don't worship him 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 32+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6f0af88fe662 00:57:09 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1278-g4e359b6: Move go_berserk() out of misc.cc 10(3 minutes ago, 10 files, 123+ 122-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e359b6150a2 00:58:33 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:59:10 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:01:23 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:01:43 I placed a space after the @return so the indentation would not be modified. This is fine, correct? 01:02:51 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:03:03 sounds fine 01:03:15 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:04:03 -!- atomikkrab is now known as bedkrab 01:04:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:50 what's the syntax for spawning a monster with specific spells? "&M goblin ..."? 01:05:05 in wiz mode? same as vaults. 01:05:11 which is... 01:05:16 spells: foo,bar,; 01:05:24 err, spells: foo,bar; 01:05:44 if a spell has multiple words it's stone_arrow not stone arrow 01:05:51 and slots are in normal order. 01:06:29 there we go 01:06:31 The goblin throws nuke at you. 01:07:52 please don't make mmorpgish a language 01:08:15 This is already in the game! 01:08:30 don't blame me 01:08:39 What fake language is this? 01:08:46 it's lang=default 01:14:35 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1279-gdd8a537: Make Doxygen @returns "@return" for consistancy. 10(8 minutes ago, 28 files, 59+ 59-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dd8a53796735 01:14:38 What spell is this? 01:14:38 give a goblin glaciate and watch what happens 01:14:38 -!- bedkrab has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:14:38 Hmm, still not 100% sure what BEAM_NUKE is. 01:14:38 exciting! 01:14:38 OOD uses it, iirc 01:14:38 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:15:47 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:47 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 01:15:48 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 01:16:07 -!- Kramin has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:43 Possible bug: a bolt reflected from a shield of reflection killed a slime and put my follower of Jiyva under penance 01:17:48 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:18:51 Hmm, I believe that is a bug. 01:19:07 yeah, I already agreed in ##crawl. you should mantis it 01:19:16 I'm already looking at fixing it 01:19:26 but I'm going to bed soon 01:20:09 <|amethyst> reaverb: BEAM_NUKE is eye of devastation and cacodemon 01:20:17 Ok, I've never put a bug on mantis before. I'll have a look 01:20:26 <|amethyst> reaverb: IIRC it's essentially disintegrate without the MR check 01:20:33 |amethyst: Hmm. 01:21:23 monster_die is over 1200 lines long 01:21:24 why :( 01:21:58 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: because our god conduct stuff needs serious refactoring :) 01:22:09 :) 01:22:50 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:24:08 PleasingFungus: have you see items() 01:24:20 I saw the old throw_it() code 01:24:21 or the aquire code. 01:24:22 that was something 01:24:55 How do I see CAO's current trunk version code? 01:26:42 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:26:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:26:58 ??CAO 01:26:58 cao[1/2]: Crawl server, located in Tucson, AZ. USA, http://crawl.akrasiac.org/ or crawl.akrasiac.org ssh port 22 ssh-username:joshua ssh-password: joshua. Runs the latest stable release, trunk, and robotfindskitten. Further information on the website and ??putty entries for Windows users. Also see http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 01:27:03 ??CAO[2 01:27:03 cao[2/2]: Webtiles is at http://webtiles.akrasiac.org/ or http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/ 01:27:14 .....of course it doesn't tell use which bot has the version. 01:27:23 <|amethyst> !versions 01:27:25 <|amethyst> !version 01:27:27 trunk: 0.15-a0-1265-gb6343cc; 0.14: 0.14.1-18-g0856e53; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:27:30 I really have no idea how I'd figure out if a monster was killed by a reflected projectile 01:27:42 killer_type just doesn't give the level of precision necessary 01:27:45 <|amethyst> Kramin: (also, you can press ?V in-game to see your version) 01:27:59 Thanks 01:29:47 PleasingFungus: On crd, as mentioned I would sooner remove Hall of Blades without replacement then keep it just because Tukima's is similar. 01:30:01 Jiyva penance from reflected bolt killing slime by Kramin42 01:30:11 I don't know how you feel about that, my idea whas just to have Tukima's swap betwen current Wizlab and current Hall of Blades. 01:31:15 well, it's not like more than one wizlab will show up in a game 01:31:37 so the effect of that would be to halve both of their probabilities. idk 01:31:57 I'm not sure hall of blades is interesting enough to keep at all, even as a tukima's alt? possibly someone will disagree with me 01:31:59 Yes, both vaults having WEIGHT:5 would probably be fine. 01:32:48 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:32:54 PleasingFungus: I'm not sure, the Wizlab thing just seemed like a more agreeable idea than flat removal. 01:33:22 ~ 01:33:24 follow your heart 01:33:29 PleasingFungus: Heh. 01:33:40 tangential: it might be nice to increase wizlab appearance somewhat 01:33:48 right now they appear in about 1/3 of games that make it to depths 01:33:57 it might be nice to increase that to 1/2, maybe 01:34:02 (Replace Hall of Blades with a Wizlab entrance!) 01:34:08 ...probably not 01:34:10 That's been a serious suggestion before. 01:34:17 that is a very silly suggestion 01:34:19 even if it was intended 01:34:21 to be serious 01:39:48 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:40:53 PleasingFungus: New Wizlab idea - Earth wizard vault with Boulder beetle traps everywhere. 01:41:38 -!- Mandevil is now known as Mandevil\TS 01:43:08 :) 01:43:16 I really do love boulder beetles. 01:43:24 I like boulder beetles too. 01:43:46 need to get back to that boulder form patch at some point. 01:44:01 so much to do... 01:44:24 Eh, I mostly just rename stuff :D 01:44:29 ha 01:44:47 That nuke thing set me off on removing unclear uses of the word in function names and such. 01:45:26 oh. someone suggested re-adding iron trolls specifically in packs containing deep troll shamans 01:45:33 since then they could get hasted and be entertainingly dangerous 01:45:36 the idea is amsuing 01:45:37 *amusing 01:45:47 Can deep trolls even Haste them? 01:45:53 maybe? 01:45:59 it's probably a genus thing 01:46:14 Yes probably. 01:48:17 !learn s pleasingfungus[2 moss removal, torpor slugs, unique dialogue, remove creepiness, no-backtracking god, ghosts, LV8NUKE, make code less bad (!!!), remove fun 01:48:18 pleasingfungus[2/3]: moss removal, torpor slugs, unique dialogue, remove creepiness, no-backtracking god, ghosts, LV8NUKE, make code less bad (!!!), remove fun 01:48:21 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:22 that's a good list 01:48:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140524030204]] 01:50:10 LV8NUKE? 01:50:10 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:50:15 Oh, hmm. 01:50:41 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:51:49 -!- Kramin has left ##crawl-dev 01:58:05 Hmm, anybody know a good alternative name for BEAM_NUKE 01:59:40 BEAM_LEVELLER, BEAM_DEVASTATION, 02:00:29 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:19 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:55 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:06:48 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:54 bad idea: replace HoB with wizlab iff Spellcasting > Fighting 02:07:24 very bad idea. 02:07:48 -!- HDA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:16:26 -!- rossi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:18:34 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:13 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.1-19-g9964f44 02:21:32 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:26:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1280-g68c5851: Rename nuke_wall() destroy_wall() 10(55 minutes ago, 11 files, 35+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=68c5851c0b4e 02:26:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1281-g96369b3: Don't use nuke to describe the abyss destorying all terrain. 10(41 minutes ago, 4 files, 11+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=96369b38a049 02:26:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1282-g7d2350f: Rename MMT_NUKED to MMT_TURNED_TO_FLOOR 10(32 minutes ago, 3 files, 16+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d2350f868e8 02:26:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1283-gf3d99e4: Rename a local variable 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3d99e44229e 02:26:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1284-g8540c5e: Rename BEAM_NUKE to BEAM_DEVASTATION 10(11 minutes ago, 7 files, 17+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8540c5e9ecd8 02:26:18 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27:25 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:25 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 02:27:26 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 02:28:17 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1284-g8540c5e (34) 02:28:43 %git 02:28:48 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-1284-g8540c5e: Rename BEAM_NUKE to BEAM_DEVASTATION 10(15 minutes ago, 7 files, 17+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8540c5e9ecd8 02:28:50 -!- APV has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:28:54 Hmm. 02:31:27 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:33:45 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:36:00 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:44:42 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1285-gfea44c3: Enforce 80-char rule in misc acquirement 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 20+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fea44c3dc8e8 02:44:45 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:44:45 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:44:45 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:45:54 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:54 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 02:45:55 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! 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0.15-a0-1286-gb308769: Fix a path-finding crash in the slime wall connectivity fixup 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b30876959986 06:45:11 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1287-g066e08a: Some vaults from Cheibrodos (#8638) 10(3 hours ago, 5 files, 337+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=066e08af9160 06:46:57 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:46:57 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 06:48:38 -!- Matejii has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:51:42 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:59:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:09 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:01:38 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02:45 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:03:10 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04:09 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:04:49 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 07:06:00 -!- ckyle 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miss 08:47:41 <|amethyst> (can't miss the wall of course) 08:47:53 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1288-g8c3d71b: Tell db_lint that elephant slugs are dummy monsters. 10(9 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8c3d71b6b097 08:49:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1289-gf0dc122: Rename orb slug description. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f0dc122a9fca 08:49:45 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:49:45 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:53:03 @??orb beetle 08:53:03 unknown monster: "orb beetle" 08:53:17 is it just a slow orb spider because that would be incredibly boring 08:54:32 <|amethyst> goliath beetle hd:20 col:magenta name:orb_beetle n_rpl n_des n_spe spells:orb_of_destruction 08:55:27 <|amethyst> (previously was elephant slug col:magenta name:orb_slug n_rpl n_des n_spe spel 08:55:30 <|amethyst> ls:orb_of_destruction 08:55:33 <|amethyst> ) 08:58:43 -!- DasRunzen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:59:01 -!- MDvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:01:35 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:02:58 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1184173/crawl/great%20trap.png 09:03:18 when coming back.. you must either have blink or stasis 09:03:23 or just a bunch of teleports and hope for the best.. 09:04:51 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:04:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:32 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:57 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:10:16 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 09:11:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:54 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:15:58 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:19:15 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:24:09 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:33:53 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:36:04 -!- Rjs 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double_sword, golden_long_sword, great_serpentine_sword, great_sword, greatsword, long_sword, longsword, plutonium_sword, screaming_sword, short_sword, singing_sword, sulking_sword, sword_in_stone, sword_of_cerebov, sword_of_jihad, sword_of_power, sword_of_the_doom_knight, sword_of_zonguldrok, swords, tenofswords, the_golden_sw... 11:08:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:58 ??sword_in_stone 11:08:58 sword in stone[1/2]: That one vault guarded by nasty humanoids, possibly with some uniques. It has a strong sword inside transparent wall. Oh, and be warned that said sword is on a teleport trap, so if you want to get it you need LRD or shatter to break the walls (dig/disint works in 0.14) and an amulet of stasis or apportation. Or just use cTele. Have fun! 11:09:02 ??sword_in_stone[2 11:09:02 sword in stone[2/2]: !lg spectrina cebe 4 -tv:T51200:x4 11:09:12 PleasingFungus: see that game by spectrina 11:09:17 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:09:34 she lured one up from depths to somewhere in early D to get the plut. sword from it, back when it was actually encased in stone 11:09:59 it being the vault, and one being an deep troll earth mage 11:10:03 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:05 gammafunk: I remember the game; didn't remember it was stone. that makes sense, though, since I guess she wouldn't have needed an earth mage's help otherwise 11:24:41 PleasingFungus: yeah, the vault was changed because it was pretty silly to require stuff like that. Funny thing is that the plut sword turns out to be a somewhat annoying weapon 11:25:11 Since the polymorphs that it does through transmutation miscasts heal the monster 11:25:22 and it you can't polymorph any & 11:26:17 ...seems just as well, if that'd full-heal them! 11:26:23 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:27:11 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.1-19-g9964f44 11:29:58 yeah, maybe I'll tweak the plutonium sword at some point 11:30:13 so it can be the insane weapon it was meant to be 11:30:47 a noble dream 11:31:21 it is pretty insane, it definitely doesn't need to be any better 11:31:26 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:31:32 and the tmut miscasts are certainly supposed to be a downside occasionally 11:31:49 yeah, if it got better "cute tricks" I'd defintely have to lower damage, but I'm not even sure what I'd do for it 11:32:21 but just remove the annoyance factor, so I guess not so much as cute tricks 11:33:33 next up: the distortion brand 11:33:38 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:52 that's a bigger can of worms, since that's a god-given brand and a common one 11:34:24 "a god-given brand" 11:34:28 'merica 11:34:31 praise lucy, etc 11:35:41 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:39:53 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:46:39 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:39 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 11:46:39 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:53 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:49:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:52:30 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:12 -!- Guest62734 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:57:48 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:03 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:00:57 -!- Wah has quit [Quit: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT'S BACON!] 12:04:16 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.1-19-g9964f44 12:05:38 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:15:07 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:55 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:17:07 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:18:47 |amethyst: hey, saw you said something to me the other day and I wasn't around... ping me when you are 12:18:56 a.k.a. tag, you're it 12:19:06 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1289-gf0dc122 (34) 12:20:17 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:18 -!- somebody1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:20:26 neunon: !tell 12:21:15 -!- Guest62734 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:25:48 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:26:06 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:03 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:56 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:31:59 -!- umrain has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:32:21 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:33:09 geekosaur: oh fine. :P 12:33:15 !tell |amethyst HEY PING ME 12:33:15 neunon: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 12:38:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:43:45 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:44:54 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:49:29 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:49:52 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:52 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:51:06 Is there a beam type like magic dart except it can miss. 12:51:10 ? 12:51:33 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:51:37 oldstriking :^) 12:53:40 <|amethyst> neunon: hey 12:53:40 |amethyst: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 12:53:53 |amethyst: hello sir 12:53:58 so you asked about luajit 12:54:07 <|amethyst> neunon: yeah, when you pushed the new version you removed the old branch 12:54:23 I did? thought I pushed a new one tracking the old state 12:54:28 if not, that was an error 12:54:42 I updated the submodule contents but hadn't tested it very thoroughly so I didn't want to update the submodules in the parent repo at the time, same with a few others I updated 12:55:29 <|amethyst> neunon: ah, looks like it deleted the branches (luajit-2.0-crawl-dev-2010-05 and luajit-2.0-crawl-dev) 12:55:52 <|amethyst> neunon: I replaced the former with a crawl-201005 branch 12:56:13 <|amethyst> neunon: but the latter is still missing; not sure what versions of crawl point to it 12:56:44 <|amethyst> neunon: johnny0 ran into some problems with 64-bit luajit even after the change to skip the custom allocator there 12:57:05 <|amethyst> neunon: it worked better with the newer version, but still needed the stack size ulimit increased 12:57:07 yeah, more testing is warranted before updating it permanently 12:57:50 <|amethyst> neunon: do you still have a copy of the luajit-2.0-crawl-dev branch to push back? 12:57:58 let me check 12:58:35 <|amethyst> ah, I think I do 12:58:41 <|amethyst> 477d1cbe 12:59:04 if nothing else I should have it in reflog 12:59:04 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:34 <|amethyst> neunon: pushed it 12:59:42 <|amethyst> my local repo still had it 12:59:42 we should probably be tagging these instead, just to keep them referenced 12:59:56 but oh well 13:01:17 <|amethyst> neunon: for your reference, the bug in question is https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8647 13:01:25 * neunon looks 13:01:47 yeah, luajit is "funny" 13:02:01 <|amethyst> I looked into why custom allocators are not allowed on 64-bit 13:02:06 stack overflows sounds like a real problem though 13:02:09 <|amethyst> Apparently they use 32-bit pointers? 13:02:23 er, how? heh 13:02:29 I mean, I know they're doing something strange 13:02:32 <|amethyst> neunon: I was thinking maybe they use recursion somewhere in the parser where lua does not 13:02:37 <|amethyst> neunon: re the stack overflow 13:02:38 because they require the same kind of crazy memory map that SheepShaver requires 13:02:41 (also, brb, meeting) 13:04:15 -!- joy1999 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:05:41 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:00 -!- Guest62734 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:13:09 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:30 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:33 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:19:30 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:09 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21:12 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:19 -!- blabber has quit [Read error: No route to host] 13:21:25 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:57 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:34:55 |amethyst: The reason I compared BEAM_DEVASTATION to magic dart is the old comment compared it to magic missile, something which does not actually exist in Crawl. (and is also unblockable as it turns out). If there's some sort of "force" damage type which can miss that would probably be a better comparision. 13:35:45 Like maybe Searing Ray or Force Lance. 13:37:05 <|amethyst> maybe iron shot or stone arrow or something 13:37:22 Oh, those have the same effect? Hmm. 13:37:25 <|amethyst> since those are all magical missiles 13:37:33 |amethyst: Ha. 13:38:01 <|amethyst> all of those, and magic dart and several other things, use BEAM_MMISSILE 13:38:04 Obviously give insubstantional mosnters half damage from anything other than pure conjurations. 13:38:15 |amethyst: Ah, hmm. 13:38:19 <|amethyst> force lance too :) 13:38:30 I'll just compare it to BEAM_MMISSILE 13:39:18 I should probably also move/copy that comment to enum.h 13:39:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:24 -!- twelwe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:43:35 Eh, to hard to put it in, I don't think BEAM_DEVASTATION is used outside the mon-cast spell anyway. 13:45:35 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:49:42 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:53 this guy should be a dev https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12621 13:54:12 -!- nek is now known as Guest78916 13:55:18 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Client Quit] 13:56:04 the door should always be open to tactical decision making 13:57:07 <|amethyst> It should probably require several attempts, and give you tloc miscasts when it doesn't abyss you 13:57:22 <|amethyst> and maybe it could do damage to monsters when you wield it 13:57:31 <|amethyst> but probably you would want to make it difficult to unwield 13:57:37 <|amethyst> except for Lugonu worshippers 13:57:59 gammafunk: What's the Thanks for? 13:58:04 uh 13:58:11 gammafunk: The joke? 13:58:13 knocking down the door to tactical decision making 13:58:22 nailing the door wide the hell open in fact 13:58:46 if you were on my design level you'd see this 13:59:32 |amethyst: I'm ok with that if we let monsters wield it; imagine if it turns our a d:1 kobold used one on you! 13:59:45 s/our/out/ 14:02:59 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1290-g7971631: Compare BEAM_DEVASTATION to BEAM_MMISSILE (|amethyst) 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7971631360d9 14:06:44 I think the only practical effect of the digging effects of devesation is to help destroy the loot on slime:6 after trj is dead; maybe it's used cleverly in a few vaults 14:09:36 haha, yes, one, a hangedman vault 14:10:19 and another hangedman vault 14:10:29 can't believe he's the only one who thought to do that 14:11:22 an minmay did something with it 14:12:14 I don't recall ever doing something with it 14:12:26 your eyes vault 14:12:36 <|amethyst> I've wanted to do a vault with a long, narrow hall, an audience behind glass, and DTEEs/eyes of devastation/etc 14:12:44 ...my eyes vault has entirely stone walls 14:12:48 <|amethyst> glass lining the hall that is 14:13:12 |amethyst: hangedman did basically that 14:13:16 <|amethyst> aha 14:13:22 <|amethyst> and probably much better than I could 14:13:24 <|amethyst> what's the vault? 14:13:51 !vault hangedman_glaring_trap 14:13:51 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des;hb=HEAD#l2939 14:14:57 the eyes vault does not have entirely stone walls, in fact 14:15:15 it is mostly stone however 14:15:30 probably been a while since you made that, so you might not remember 14:15:57 do you mean the grates, or does it actually have rock 14:16:01 yeah 14:16:01 !vault minmay_eyes 14:16:01 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des;hb=HEAD#l1730 14:16:11 technically you're right the walls are all stone, I guess 14:16:15 yes 14:16:18 also it didn't have grates when I submitted it 14:16:23 heh 14:16:27 since they didn't exist until like 4 versions later 14:17:03 even then the grates probably won't interact much with the EoD 14:17:11 in any meaningful way at least 14:19:27 god, in the eyes vault, using KFEAT: m = iron grate 14:20:38 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:24:01 that was not me 14:24:22 (it was done before iron grates had a dedicated character, so that was the only way to put them in a vault) 14:24:34 gammafunk: Fix it then :D 14:24:49 I only make epic changes 14:25:06 actually, what *is* the char for iron grate 14:25:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:20 gammafunk: Then you lose the right to complain about if if you can trivially fix it :D 14:25:21 syntax guide doesn't list one 14:25:33 good luck enforcing that rule 14:25:38 Sauken (L22 HuFi) ASSERT(shops_present.count(level_pos(lid, coord_def()))) in 'dgn-overview.cc' at line 745 failed. (Vaults:4) 14:25:51 Yes I thought we were talking the other day about how terrible grates no having a glyph was? 14:26:19 what glyph would it be 14:26:21 put grates on H 14:26:29 on # 14:26:31 ontoclasm: you're insane! 14:26:36 :Y 14:27:00 i think i have my grates on = maybe 14:27:04 which char best symbolizes the grate (besides #) 14:28:11 any char you'd use would require a lot of vault changes 14:28:54 M? 14:29:40 Sauken (L22 HuFi) ASSERT(shops_present.count(level_pos(lid, coord_def()))) in 'dgn-overview.cc' at line 745 failed. (Vaults:4) 14:29:49 i thought they were I or something now 14:30:18 I is orcish idol 14:30:25 Z would be good 14:30:40 I could be a grate too 14:30:47 grates are a different color 14:31:13 ontoclasm: ...we mean in des syntax 14:31:17 oh 14:33:01 Wow, I just found the stupidest most horrible thing in acquirement code, but I don't want to fix it because that would break my refacorting commits.... 14:33:12 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:32 Which aren't anywhere near the level I would be willing to publicize them. Hmm. 14:35:30 !seen dpeg 14:35:30 I last saw dpeg at Thu Jun 5 02:24:14 2014 UTC (17h 11m 16s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: leaving'. 14:35:39 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:36:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:40 * geekosaur would be surprised if there were only one stupidest most horrible thing in acq code >.> 14:39:39 Hmm, this is also probably going to have an extreme gameplay effect if I fix it, I should probably start fix it now and then just fix it again on the revert. 14:45:05 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47:04 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 14:48:29 Are WPN_FOO the sub_types? 14:48:41 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:50 <|amethyst> yes 14:56:32 -!- Mad_Wack is now known as Mad_Wack_Away 14:57:28 -!- Mad_Wack_Away is now known as Mad_Wack 15:13:45 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: #] 15:14:09 vault by name 15:14:09 Hmm, this problem wasn't as bad as I thought but it's still pretty hilarious nobody noticed this. 15:16:05 That's a pretty extensive vault for somebody's first time. 15:16:13 Also special casing those uniques. 15:16:15 -!- DiazepaN has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:19:18 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1291-g3202427: Don't purposely avoid acquiring things the player is carrying 10(38 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3202427a38d0 15:19:19 -!- Guest78916 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:19:19 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:19:54 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:54 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 15:19:55 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 15:22:27 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:38 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:26:16 wow 15:26:21 I was not expecting that 15:26:28 I thought it would be really small or something 15:28:09 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:29:53 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 15:30:51 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34:30 -!- Guest62734 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:30 -!- Guest62734 has quit [Client Quit] 15:36:14 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:39:20 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:41:51 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:43:01 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:43:08 DEPTH: Depths:2- 15:43:10 PLACE: Depths:$ 15:43:16 he was torn 15:44:47 to be fair it is using seperate weighting, but still 15:46:24 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:46:51 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:12 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:47:28 the storm god is pretty cool 15:47:31 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:45 being really loud all the time makes things interesting 15:47:59 that might be the best power 15:48:48 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 15:49:24 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:49:32 LexAckson: you should !tell Grunt, he's glad to hear feedback 15:49:35 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:11 !tell Grunt good work on Qazlal, he's fun and being loud all the time makes for a distinct playstyle 15:51:11 LexAckson: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:51:38 I just realized how much loot that vault is placing 15:51:38 my god 15:52:32 -!- Tenda has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:54:15 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:45 -!- soundlust has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:56:14 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 15:57:17 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:57:18 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:01:26 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:02:59 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03:11 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:29 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:44 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:05:51 how much loot does it have 16:06:06 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:06:06 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:28 -!- Almacia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:57 At least 10 * and 10 | 16:09:18 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:09:22 oh 16:09:34 is it hard enough to make up for the ridiculous amount of loot? 16:10:13 Oh, and apparenlty all the monsters start with good_item weapons. 16:11:33 I have no idea how this vault works but I would guess no. 16:11:45 it has some nasty guys but nothing to warrant that 16:12:20 i mean a double-good-item-cutlass blademaster in plate is nothing to sneeze at 16:15:44 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1292-g3b80b93: Remove an unused constant and typedef. 10(45 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3b80b93d3558 16:15:44 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1293-g4a08026: Refactor _find_acquirement_subtype. 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 58+ 55-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a08026405b7 16:15:45 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 16:15:45 ocpa blademaster with dual quickblades of distortion 16:15:45 yeah 16:15:45 this thing almost feels like a paorody of Crawl vaults. 16:15:45 yay for more melee unreasons 16:15:45 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:16:56 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 16:16:56 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 16:16:58 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 16:19:52 The Octopus King comes into view. He is wielding a quickblade of distortion, a quickblade of distortion, a quickblade of distortion, a quickblade of distortion, a quickblade of distortion, a quickblade of distortion, a quickblade of distortion, and the +10 +4 Trident of the Octopus King. 16:21:05 |amethyst: Do you have more acquirement refactoring you want to do? As I mentioned before pushing that the reason I found that was I was refactoring the code myself... 16:21:33 <|amethyst> oh, doh 16:21:36 <|amethyst> I'm done 16:21:48 Ok. 16:24:27 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:31:00 "Invalid Trap Type 100" crash on Spider Nest 5 by pixnaps 16:32:27 it only gives the 1s good_items 16:32:33 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 16:33:10 -!- somebody1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:33:46 and those item numbers, 10 * and 10 |, are only the average 16:34:04 you could get a roll of 20 | theoretically 16:34:34 not do mention all of the normal dungeon drops on the d 16:35:59 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 16:36:48 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44:10 <|amethyst> Grunt: what do you think about releasing 0.14.2 soon? 16:45:13 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:45:19 <|amethyst> Grunt: the spider crash is the big thing (#8429) 16:48:11 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:48:11 -!- jeanjacques_ is now known as jeanjacques 16:49:08 What/close 16:49:11 -!- Senjai has left ##crawl-dev 16:49:20 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:00:30 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:54 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:02:03 -!- syllogism has quit [] 17:02:34 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140414143035]] 17:05:58 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 17:08:00 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:53 -!- M1zzu has quit [Client Quit] 17:09:33 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:12:08 -!- Aryth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:51 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:58 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:25 -!- Deshter has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:15:08 -!- phalm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:16:11 |amethyst: poke people a bit to see if there are any other major things that need cherry-picking; if not I'll get on that in the immediate future. 17:16:11 Grunt: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:17:08 (I can't think of anything, personally.) 17:17:19 what's going on with chunkless 17:17:31 have chunks been removed from it yet? 17:18:11 we decided to go with the lightliless branch instead 17:18:25 Yes; we'll be rolling it out any day now. 17:18:34 fr bring back lightlis 17:18:34 rip 17:18:46 yes 17:18:47 we can't survive with only darklis 17:19:27 ok it looks like it hasn't happened yet 17:19:30 what's holding it up? 17:20:15 !seen elliptic 17:20:15 I last saw elliptic at Fri May 23 01:58:36 2014 UTC (1w 6d 20h 21m 39s ago) quitting, saying '*.net *.split'. 17:20:19 dang 17:20:42 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:58 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:22:54 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:23:29 hm. looking at 4a08026405b7, it seems like it'll break in a really ugly way if anyone ever adds an item type. would be good to have an assert there, like we have for other arrays indexed by enums. 17:23:30 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:24:00 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1293-g4a08026 (34) 17:24:27 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: COMPILE_CHECK(ARRAYSZ(_subtype_finders) == NUM_OBJECT_CLASSES) 17:26:54 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:27:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: in _find_acquirement_subtype (it has to be in a function because of the way we do static asserts in non-C++11 gcc) 17:28:06 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:28:31 |amethyst: ahh, I missed that line. yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of. 17:28:32 good. 17:30:56 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:24 -!- Nightbeer is now known as Ladykiller69 17:33:28 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:35:51 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:32 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:37:50 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:13 -!- bones__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:31 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:49:54 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 17:51:21 -!- FaMott has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:59:36 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:01:45 -!- _miek has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:06:49 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:09 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:29 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:45 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:19:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:20:52 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:08 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:41 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:40:43 -!- asdcczx has quit [Client Quit] 18:41:41 -!- codehero has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:05 -!- zvz has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:44:28 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:47:48 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:48:18 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:53:05 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:55:08 -!- casmith789 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:56:08 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:56:51 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:56 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:58:24 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:59:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:00:53 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:54 -!- xnavy__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:02:23 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:03:16 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140516030204]] 19:03:21 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:27 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:54 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:05:15 -!- zxc232 has left ##crawl-dev 19:06:38 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:10:57 -!- xnavy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:17:51 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:22:36 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:49 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 19:23:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:34:58 -!- rbrrk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:35:48 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35:56 -!- nogardark has quit [Client Quit] 19:39:25 -!- nogardark has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:34 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:42:16 guys can anyone help me, I am trying to build the game in visual studio 2012, I am getting an error while trying to do something with freetype.lib, which step did I screw up? 19:46:32 <|amethyst> nogardark: what's the error? 19:47:07 <|amethyst> and did you check out the submodules? 19:47:35 <|amethyst> ( git submodule update --init from the top-level directory of your working dir) 19:47:53 I downloaded the source no git yet 19:48:05 it says unable to start program, only that "error" sorry for my noobiness 19:48:37 <|amethyst> when does it say that? when it's building crawl? 19:49:01 yes 19:49:03 <|amethyst> I wonder if you still need msys to build the contribs 19:49:13 <|amethyst> I haven't done an MSVC build myself 19:49:25 oh :< 19:49:34 |amethyst: i know luajit is modified, but are the other contribs? 19:50:32 <|amethyst> johnny0: I think they all have at least some build tweaks 19:50:39 -!- _miek has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:50:48 <|amethyst> apparently there is a project file for freetype 19:50:55 I was following a tutorial that comes with the source 19:51:09 if that is somehow relevant 19:51:12 <|amethyst> nogardark: it doesn't say which program it was unable to start? 19:51:15 -!- mfw56 is now known as _miek 19:51:16 yes 19:51:28 freetype.lib 19:51:28 path/freetype.lib 19:52:11 <|amethyst> which step are you on 19:52:15 <|amethyst> compiling Contribs.sln ? 19:52:22 yes 19:53:14 |amethyst: if by "some tweaks" you mean "a lobotomy" 19:53:22 <|amethyst> heh 19:53:35 http://imgur.com/wsP5w8g 19:53:38 that is the error 19:54:38 <|amethyst> nogardark: and what command exactly are you using to build that gives that error? 19:55:28 no commands clicking the button local windows debugger 19:55:33 <|amethyst> oh 19:55:35 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 19:55:42 <|amethyst> that says to build and run 19:55:45 <|amethyst> but you can't run a library 19:56:05 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:27 oh man sorry xD 19:56:34 <|amethyst> so it's working properly it seems? 19:56:41 <|amethyst> well 19:56:46 <|amethyst> it might have built only freetype 19:57:05 well, not working properly but that must be the problem 19:57:28 maybe I am trying to compile freetype, let me double check so I won't waste your time 19:58:00 <|amethyst> You want BUILD -> Build Solution 19:58:14 <|amethyst> Which should build all the contribs 20:00:37 that did the trick, sorry to bother, now that it is built do you know how can I run it? 20:02:36 nogardark: you've only built the contribs at this point (third-party libraries) -- now you need to build the actual crawl project 20:02:57 the readme has pretty good instructions at this point 20:03:31 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0.1/20140506152807]] 20:04:09 -!- e1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:04:36 yeah I am reading it, somehow it jumps from building the contribs to running the game, without saying which file is which, that is why I was trying to run the contribs. Thanks a lot guys, I should be able to continue from here 20:05:16 I was reading wrong oops thanks again 20:07:08 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:21 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 20:11:34 -!- Zermako has quit [] 20:12:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:27 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:54 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:15:06 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:15:21 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:19:29 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:21:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:22:23 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:25:10 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:26 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 20:25:26 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:43 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:28:38 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:27 hello again, There are some files missing, I know the easiest way is to setup git, but these files are nowhere to be found even in 0.13(I am trying to build 0.14.1) is there something else I am doing wrong? (file not found mon-mst.h and another 4) 20:31:17 mon-mst.h is generated, normally 20:32:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:32:24 by util/gen-mst.pl 20:32:48 I guess the others are generated too mi-enum.h etc, then I did something wrong again 20:32:52 which means you need a perl installed 20:33:06 GENERATED_HEADERS := art-enum.h config.h mon-mst.h #the rest are private 20:33:27 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:29 yes, that one is generated as well (one of the private ones) 20:33:48 oh, I installed some activeperl or something, what is the best option from the website that the tutorial recommeds 20:33:50 it's another perl script 20:33:57 <|amethyst> that should work 20:34:02 <|amethyst> you should be able to run util/gen-all.cmd 20:34:02 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:10 <|amethyst> err, source/util/gen-all.cmd 20:34:11 activeperl is not the one I would normally recommend, but will probably work 20:34:24 ok I will try to gen all again thanks :) 20:39:45 -!- the_glow has left ##crawl-dev 20:40:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:42:50 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:43:09 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:13 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:31 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:47:42 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 29.0/20140414143035]] 20:48:41 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:49:10 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:53:08 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:53:12 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:54:58 -!- onwiheg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:55:06 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 20:55:53 -!- crate_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:57:29 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 20:57:54 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:02:01 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:03:58 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:09:03 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:09:39 guys final question I think, rng.cc is missing I snatched one from 0.13 but it is not working, was it replaced or is it generated? 21:09:58 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10:05 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 21:10:23 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:11:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:12:11 i have a vague feeling it was renamed to something else 21:12:17 not sure though 21:12:33 alright, I will look around :) 21:12:56 ah yeah it was renamed to hash.cc for 0.14 21:12:58 %git c47ee9af642 21:12:58 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-190-gc47ee9a: Rename rng.cc to hash.cc 10(8 months ago, 7 files, 67+ 75-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c47ee9af642d 21:13:43 thanks a lot, needless to say I am a noob at this. 21:14:38 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:14:45 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 21:16:47 -!- owl has quit [Quit: brb] 21:23:19 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 21:24:38 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 21:33:04 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:34:33 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:37:23 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:31 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:41:18 dcss taught me a skill i'm now using to write a math paper 21:41:35 cool 21:41:42 DCSS: a learning opportunity 21:41:49 mm 21:42:54 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:54 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 21:42:54 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:08 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:45:24 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:45:25 -!- Morik_ is now known as morik 21:52:29 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:52:48 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:03 ontoclasm: I'm guessing the skill was not how to define rims 21:54:24 not yet 21:54:28 you never know 21:54:36 (it was c++) 21:54:54 o 21:54:54 you poor soul 21:56:41 i'm writing a program to solve this graph theory problem i'm working on 21:57:23 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50l1KXwhpI but has dcss taught you choice in music!? 21:59:32 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 22:00:13 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1294-g6d29532: Remove obsolete Visual Studio 2005 project. 10(10 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 3057-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d295321da5f 22:04:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1295-gcf2591f: Add hash.cc to, remove obsolete files from, MSVC project. 10(28 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf2591fd3be8 22:04:29 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1296-g539d7c4: Include tileweb-text.cc in MSVC builds. 10(15 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=539d7c4a0f08 22:04:52 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 22:04:59 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:06:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:07:43 Cherry-picked 2 commits into stone_soup-0.14 22:08:33 mm 22:08:36 %git stone_soup-0.14 22:08:36 07|amethyst02 * 0.14.1-21-g36cd379: Include tileweb-text.cc in MSVC builds. 10(19 minutes ago, 2 files, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=36cd37913e90 22:08:43 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:50 ...yeah, probably time for a 0.14.2 right away :) 22:09:24 <|amethyst> well 22:09:37 (once we figure out what else needs to go there) 22:09:41 <|amethyst> I was hoping someone could try building that in Visual Studio and make sure it works :) 22:09:55 (where is a mumra when you need him :( ) 22:10:10 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 22:10:12 I'm working on mumra code right now! 22:10:15 he is still with us, in spirit 22:10:36 and his spirit is saying // XXX: The rest of this function is incomprehensible to me right now. 22:10:37 !send PleasingFungus spirit 22:10:37 Sending spirit to PleasingFungus. 22:10:44 !send Grunt whiskey 22:10:44 Sending whiskey to Grunt. 22:10:52 <+mumra> what the hell was I thinking when I wrote this code? 22:10:54 <_< 22:11:07 !cheers PleasingFungus 22:11:07 * Sequell slides a briefcase full of whiskey across the bar to PleasingFungus, on the house. 22:11:13 mmm 22:11:13 dang 22:11:20 -!- Bazzie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:11:48 const int new_t_pos = 256 * target.x + target.y; 22:11:51 this is an interesting way to write code 22:15:08 mm I've seen things like that before 22:15:22 I'm trying to remember the justification, but I'd need to see it in context to provide one, probably :b 22:16:04 <|amethyst> clearly that should be target.x << 8 | target.y 22:17:34 tossed my current draft onto a remote branch so people can take a look if they like 22:17:47 it's move.cc:625, OrbMovement::aim() 22:17:55 New branch created: boulder (19 commits) 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1294-gd7dfc5a: Movement behaviours implementation for IOOD and Boulder Beetles 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 19 files, 1233+ 740-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d7dfc5a69c6f 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1295-gb6af3a4: Revert change to store.cc 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6af3a459e7d 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1296-g5a4cb8f: Partially implement Boulder Form 10(1 year, 1 month ago, 20 files, 279+ 86-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a4cb8f839a2 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1297-g60e17f5: Boulder Form tiles 10(1 year ago, 5 files, 5+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=60e17f5bfd76 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1298-g40bad81: Clean up move.cc by moving some stubs into move.h 10(1 year ago, 2 files, 21+ 89-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=40bad816dfbe 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1299-g8e19f8d: Add new random functions random_real_inc, random_real_avg, random_range_real 10(1 year ago, 2 files, 28+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e19f8d75f4e 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1300-g1aab668: Remove orphaned constructor from move.h 10(1 year ago, 1 file, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1aab668faa07 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1301-g601a7fa: Move some door-opening code to player.cc 10(1 year ago, 4 files, 163+ 155-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=601a7fab2ef7 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1302-gdaa7fa2: Support boulders slamming open doors in _player_open_door 10(1 year ago, 2 files, 5+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=daa7fa2a19b4 22:17:56 03mumra02 {PleasingFungus} 07[boulder] * 0.15-a0-1303-g25ef8bf: Make several improvements to Boulder Form and Boulder Beetle 10(1 year ago, 7 files, 431+ 182-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=25ef8bf42b2a 22:17:56 ... and 9 more commits 22:17:58 chei will notice in a second 22:18:09 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:18:19 maybe I should have cleaned up history a little more first 22:18:22 'oops' 22:19:07 boulder form 22:19:18 this whole thing is a mess - pretty sure about a third of those year-old commits don't actually compile. gonna make reaverb real sad if it ever gets merged into master 22:19:27 eb_: or possibly boulder beetle form 22:19:40 but probably boulder form for now 22:21:34 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: I think the tpos thing is just so that it can use one prop instead of two? 22:21:58 -!- Bazzie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:22:01 one variable? 22:22:13 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:18 <|amethyst> see OrbMovement::setup(): tpos = subject->props["tpos"].get_short(); 22:22:56 ah 22:23:25 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:23:37 ...this code isn't that bad 22:23:57 on the other hand, I'm not sure it actually works 22:24:00 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:25:20 nvm it totally does 22:27:26 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:27:45 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:36 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:36 -!- LexAckson has quit [Client Quit] 22:47:11 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:09 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:05 -!- eb_ has quit [] 22:52:54 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01:57 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:35 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 23:03:51 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:48 -!- Frank2368 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07:08 -!- morik has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:07:50 -!- morik has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:26 -!- Kaput has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:18:58 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:20:59 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:46 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:31 hm. is it intended that monsters get to move on the same turn they break free from nets? 23:22:36 it's player-monster asymmetry! 23:23:56 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:29:04 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:29:57 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:32:17 -!- _miek has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:32:20 !send PleasingFungus asymmetry 23:32:21 Sending asymmetry to PleasingFungus. 23:32:44 I was tempted to send you something in response 23:32:46 but I won't 23:32:50 just to make a point!!! 23:33:01 <|amethyst> !send asymmetry PleasingFungus 23:33:01 Sending PleasingFungus to asymmetry. 23:33:06 dang 23:33:14 * Grunt 's illusion shimmers and vanishes! 23:33:42 <|amethyst> My blood pumper is wronged! 23:33:58 !send |amethyst blood 23:33:58 Sending blood to |amethyst. 23:34:05 !send |amethyst the blood of innumerable players 23:34:05 Sending the blood of innumerable players to |amethyst. 23:36:00 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 23:36:27 don't suppose either of you have an actual opinion on the net thing 23:37:40 <|amethyst> not really 23:37:44 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:37:51 -!- bones__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:10 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:19 -!- WeiSong has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:40:31 fair enough. 23:40:42 maybe I'll change it at some point. throwing net buffs 23:42:18 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:10 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:47 <|amethyst> %git 961769 23:44:47 07jpeg02 * 0.4-a0-2182-g961769a: Allow monsters to pick up and exchange armour if they find something better. This will only happen if the armour will fit the monster (correct size) and if the new armour has a better AC, or both items have the same AC but the new armour has a higher value (uses shopping values). Matching racial type (orcish for orcs, elven for elves) doubles an item's value, so between two plain +0 ring mails, one orcish one not, an orc will always prefer the former. 10(6 years ago, 8 files, 582+ 526-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=961769a9f994 23:45:03 <|amethyst> didn't realise mosnter pickup was that new 23:45:09 <|amethyst> s/snt/nst/ 23:45:13 that... doesn't seem very new 23:45:27 I like the 'reduced orc chattiness' 23:45:33 <|amethyst> newer than the DCSS fork :P 23:45:43 :p 23:47:00 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:48:07 -!- Insomniak has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:50:16 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:53:30 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev