00:03:25 -!- nht has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:14 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1261-g7b5b602 (34) 00:15:06 @The_monster@ says, "I forgot to wear corrosion-proof armour. Damn, I hate that!" 00:15:27 I was about to mention how corrosion-proof armor no longer exists, but on the other hand it still works even with the removal 00:18:08 yep 00:18:22 trying to decide if a slouch "posture problems" joke works 00:18:34 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1261-g7b5b602 (34) 00:18:42 it does 00:18:46 I think 00:18:56 @The_monster@ says, "You know, if you want, I know a very good posture trainer." 00:19:08 yeah that'll definitely work 00:19:24 (joke fr: donald quotes for zot) 00:19:48 "I hate purple." 00:20:21 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20:31 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1262-g2e9f587: More Donald 10(35 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e9f587c8d03 00:24:49 Donald (02@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 84 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Dam: 26 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, amphibious | Res: 06magic(93), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1782 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:24:49 %??donald 00:29:03 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:35:33 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 00:41:22 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:41:57 -!- DKR has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:43:32 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46:49 -!- RZX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:48:04 -!- bencryption_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 00:48:11 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 00:50:30 man 00:50:38 I wonder if crawl should have some guidelines on tone 00:50:45 tone? 00:50:54 some of the shit in monspeak.txt is genuinely fucked up & disturbing 00:50:57 oh 00:51:10 yeah, a few of pikel's lines are really out there 00:51:23 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:51:34 and the stuff dowan and duvessa say when the other dies/gets abyssed... 00:51:37 yeah :( 00:51:51 I mean, the dowan/duvessa lines are really well written 00:51:52 but like 00:51:56 too well written for the kind of game crawl is 00:52:26 like if someone dropped a safe on wile e. coyote, and he started screaming in pain and wailing and crying and begging for his mother 00:52:38 tone problems. 00:54:10 (also - and this doesn't matter since it is astonishingly rare - but check out the dialogue near the very bottom, for 'deformed humanoid'.) 00:56:32 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:03 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Excess Flood] 00:58:09 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:59:31 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:34 yeah 01:02:41 -!- jeffro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:05:22 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:22 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:10:22 isn't syraine blameable for like 75% of this 01:11:08 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:11:18 it's also a bit weird that it's interspersed with dick jokes 01:11:32 Grunt: I have much of a "remove chunks from chunkless" patch done, but i'm not sure if you've started it or not 01:11:43 and I shall not compete with the hasted patch executioner 01:12:07 minmay: dick jokes? 01:12:18 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 01:12:24 careful, to minmay every single joke is a dick joke 01:12:34 I just don't see any jokes at all there... 01:12:47 not in the deformed humanoid lines 01:12:51 o 01:12:57 I guess donald's masturbation joke was removed though 01:13:02 what a shame 01:14:14 what was that? 01:14:29 %git 01:14:30 07PleasingFungus02 * 0.15-a0-1262-g2e9f587: More Donald 10(55 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e9f587c8d03 01:14:38 oh I forgot I hadn't pushed that 01:14:40 oh I had 01:14:56 got thrown off because I just pushed some more dialogue 01:15:13 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1263-gaae4844: Update some outdated character descriptions 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aae484416093 01:15:13 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1264-gd2883c7: Give Louise some dialogue 10(75 seconds ago, 1 file, 36+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d2883c70a1b9 01:15:42 Why won't you be my friend 01:16:07 I'm not feeling very well? 01:16:21 FR: implement the insnaity mechanism from the call of cthulhu RPG 01:16:53 I recognize the irony in complaining about the deformed humanoid lines, and then immediately pushing that commit 01:17:26 What is the "I'm not feeling very a well" a reference to? 01:17:38 well 01:17:40 she's insane 01:17:46 so that's supposed to be a moment of lucidity 01:17:50 (it's also supposed to be rare) 01:17:54 ....wow 01:17:59 sorry 01:18:14 everyone's a critic I guess 01:18:24 I like the convention that "rare" = "reference to something dumb" 01:18:27 in monspeak 01:18:33 in this case I was just using it to avoid spam, though! 01:18:54 I mean the other two lines are dumb 01:19:36 I guess you get a pretty big pass for almost anything under the "insanity" thing though 01:19:55 Maybe move the spider queen dialogue unchanged to Louise 01:19:58 hahaha 01:20:07 I am sincerely tempted 01:20:19 add '....oh wait' at the end maybe 01:20:22 maybe I'll do that tomorrow 01:21:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:21:24 anyway marvinpa asked me to make the louise changes like a month ago 01:21:35 so I'm glad I finally did that 01:22:43 I wonder if anyone will actually read my essay-length crd email? 01:22:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140524030204]] 01:24:49 I just did 01:24:59 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:25:13 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:25:21 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:25:24 and at the end I only have one question 01:26:12 why did you bold the single 'I' in 'Instead' at the beginning of the second sentence of the third paragraph 01:26:38 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:26:48 untill this is determined further work on any food branch cannot proceed 01:35:16 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:40:53 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:33 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50:54 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:51:05 -!- conted_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:51:22 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:11 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:59:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06:39 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:08:38 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:10:02 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:49 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:17:30 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1264-gd2883c7 (34) 02:19:37 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:15 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:26:29 -!- jeffro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:29:31 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:14 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 03:01:40 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 03:06:24 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:07:38 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:50 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:26:49 -!- Orphic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:29:50 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:38:38 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:41:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:48:34 -!- Morg0th has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:34 -!- Twinge has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:34 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:35 -!- Rjs has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:35 -!- herself has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:35 -!- six40sword has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:35 -!- Sorbius has quit [*.net *.split] 03:48:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:49:00 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:14 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 03:52:40 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:52:40 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:30 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 04:01:58 -!- category has quit [Client Quit] 04:19:21 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:19:33 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:20 -!- Azzkikr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:39:05 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:44:31 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:44:35 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:44:47 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:59 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:50:05 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:57:42 -!- kait_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:03:48 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:58 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:04:42 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:08:02 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:10:50 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:11:08 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:13:49 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 05:20:20 dpeg: sorry, I tried to make sense of the food discussion and pose a decision 05:20:56 -!- st_ has quit [] 05:21:26 gammafunk: why sorry? Came here to thank you and Nicolas :) 05:21:51 pre-emptive sorry I guess :) 05:22:26 both mails are really good, I will reply (it may take until tomorrow, but we don't have to rush it anyway) 05:23:14 yeah, agree there's no rush 05:36:58 -!- sgiratch has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:42:48 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:46:52 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49:57 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 05:57:52 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:58:04 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:45 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:09 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:20:09 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20:26 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:08 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:55 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44:27 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:54:39 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:57 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:43 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:54 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:20:41 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:22:49 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:20 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:45:37 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:46:29 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:51 -!- sgiratch has quit [Changing host] 07:51:07 I was bored 07:51:08 http://pastebin.com/kAptN6F7 07:54:40 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 07:55:19 -!- Mateji has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:55:21 -!- MDvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:55:53 -!- sitnaltax has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:59:33 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:04:17 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 08:07:23 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:39 -!- Nexos has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:10:17 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:14:13 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:06 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:20:20 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:27:48 -!- Nexos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:28:23 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:35:32 -!- ProzacElf has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:38 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37:15 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:38:59 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:30 -!- Nexos is now known as fdel 08:41:48 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:41:48 Lightli: would you upload to Mantis? Many thanks! 08:42:27 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:00 sure 08:43:05 @The_monster@ says, "Does anyone know what an Orb Guardian actually is?" 08:43:07 babies! 08:44:00 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:44:21 -!- e1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:54 Donald quotes for Zot by Lightli 08:46:03 done 08:47:44 thank you 08:48:21 fr let donald spawn in zot :v 08:49:54 rip chokos 08:52:18 -!- andrewhl_ has quit [Client Quit] 08:53:11 -!- andrewhl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:55:27 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:55:45 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:00:29 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:21 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:02:13 four bmuts by lair 7 09:02:15 what is this 09:11:36 -!- Somefellow has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:11:47 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 09:13:01 -!- six40sword has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:14:21 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:49 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:40 -!- NTRAFF has quit [Client Quit] 09:26:10 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:11 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:26:41 PleasingFungus: Hiya! Many thanks for fast food email. 09:27:14 ha 09:27:56 I'll print yours and gammafunk's, give it a good read and thought on the train, and reply :) 09:28:24 As you said, situation is not horrible, so we're not pressed to change things quickly. 09:28:30 Sure. 09:28:37 I just woke up; haven't gotten a chance to read gammafunk's yet. 09:28:46 chop chop! :) 09:28:47 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:29:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:48 -!- Deshter has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:44:19 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:44:49 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:00 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:53 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:23 -!- Kramin42 is now known as Kramin 09:56:15 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:56:41 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:01:23 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:03:15 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:52 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:10:29 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:42 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 10:14:31 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 10:17:00 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:59 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:19:35 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 10:20:05 -!- bazzie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:22:09 Game crashes, something to do with Stone Golems (possibly Igni's Wrath) by SchwaWarrior 10:24:47 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:18 Grammatical errors in new descriptions. by xbon 10:29:05 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:29:49 !seen Grunt 10:29:50 I last saw Grunt at Wed Jun 4 04:28:48 2014 UTC (11h 1m 1s ago) saying '(the only one, I think)' on ##crawl. 10:34:01 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34:19 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:40:21 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:42:42 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1265-gb6343cc: Fix some monspeak comments (#8644) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6343ccac5a6 10:43:23 oops 10:45:16 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:47:41 -!- Almacia has quit [Client Quit] 10:48:18 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:26 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 10:51:18 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:51:24 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:55 LexAckson (L9 TrMo) ERROR in 'cloud.cc' at line 360: cloud sparse dust in iron_grate at (32,31) (D:8) 10:53:08 hm 10:53:12 pressure plate trap 10:54:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140524030204]] 10:54:51 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:12 LexAckson (L9 TrMo) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3256 failed. (D:8) 10:55:29 that time it was a monster 10:57:03 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 10:57:18 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:03:02 New title screen / splash art by peileppe 11:03:23 well, the monster stepped on the trap and nothing happened 11:03:35 but when i attacked that squrare it crashed 11:04:16 <|amethyst> LexAckson: can you do a save backup and post it to mantis? 11:04:40 uh, i've moved past that point, is that okay? 11:05:03 i'll make a post to mantis with as much info as i can 11:05:21 <|amethyst> LexAckson: yeah, probably just the vault name would be enough if you know it 11:05:30 <|amethyst> but we can get that from the save 11:05:38 okay, what's the key 11:05:55 -!- mopl has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:05:58 <|amethyst> LexAckson: from the console trunk menu, (A)dvanced -> (B)ackup -> (N)ormal 11:06:06 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:06:11 <|amethyst> it will give you a URL 11:06:18 <|amethyst> (you can't download the save, but we can) 11:06:25 got it 11:07:04 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:23 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 11:10:47 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:34 -!- zxc232 has left ##crawl-dev 11:13:14 Pressure plate crash. by LexAckson 11:13:34 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:08 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:25 -!- Nexos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:31 -!- Nexos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:54 -!- _D_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28:57 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32:08 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:33:27 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:38 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:54:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:56:48 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:59:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:10 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:52 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 12:11:21 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13:23 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:16:19 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1265-gb6343cc (34) 12:16:40 PleasingFungus: I believe the second call to align avatar was necessary because charm enchant can be extended, and there was a case where not doing the align upon extension created a avatar alignment problem, but I can't remember what that case was 12:19:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1266-g959c368: Fix player location check in trap vaults (#8646) 10(17 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=959c36830987 12:19:09 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1267-g1be7c1f: Be more careful with Lua dgn.grid() (#8646) 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1be7c1f13a0b 12:20:08 <|amethyst> LexAckson: thanks! 12:21:26 gammafunk: Is there a command to replay only the part of the game in that specific vault? I ended up replaying from Depths 1 onwards, which is obviously inefficient 12:21:43 <|amethyst> Grunt: let me know if you see any potential problems with 1be7c1f (having Lua dgn.grid() call dungeon_terrain_changed instead of setting grd(c) directly) 12:23:33 <|amethyst> Grunt: also, there are various things (some in your vault) like slave.x == you_x and slave. 12:24:10 <|amethyst> Grunt: err, like "slave.x == you_x and slave.y == you_y" --- those can be simplified to slave == dgn.point(you.pos()) 12:24:23 <|amethyst> Grunt: s/your vault/&s/ 12:25:02 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:54 <|amethyst> Grunt: (dgn.point objects have a metatable so == is equivalence, not object identity) 12:28:43 -!- Makrond has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:29:13 gammafunk: aight, I'll let it be. 12:29:26 -!- Makrond has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:06 PleasingFungus: you touch my code and I will Summon Horrible Things!!! 12:30:24 X_X <- rip 12:30:43 the _ is an altar to the dread GOD_NO_GOD, obv 12:30:51 <|amethyst> I think gammafunk means, "you touch my code and you will be touching Horrible Things" 12:31:04 dunked 12:31:14 dang. 12:31:23 Lasty: It's difficult for that particular milestone; I had to waste a bunch of time fiddling with with !tv; I really recommend jetty: http://nethack4.org/projects/jettyplay/ 12:31:51 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:31:52 Lasty: you can find the ttyrec url and give it to jetty, which can read compressed once directly; then you just search for a good string match to find what you want and play 12:32:14 s/once/ones/ 12:32:50 can also download the files and give it those as well, which is handy to rewatch games you have saved 12:33:35 Nice. Thanks! 12:41:06 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 12:44:39 <|amethyst> I assume clang supports #warning ? 12:46:12 <|amethyst> I know MSVC doesn't, but I don't think this particular case will happen on Windows (requires webtiles or dgamelaunch) 12:49:49 !seen dpeg 12:49:49 I last saw dpeg at Wed Jun 4 15:29:49 2014 UTC (2h 20m ago) saying '!seen Grunt ' on ##crawl-dev. 12:50:06 passing like ships in the night...... 12:50:08 !seen Grunt 12:50:09 I last saw Grunt at Wed Jun 4 17:49:49 2014 UTC (20s ago) saying '!seen dpeg' on ##crawl-dev. 12:50:32 !seen gammafunk 12:50:32 I last saw gammafunk at Wed Jun 4 17:50:08 2014 UTC (24s ago) saying '!seen Grunt' on ##crawl-dev. 12:53:34 !seen Sequell 12:53:34 Sorry PleasingFungus, I haven't seen sequell. 12:53:38 dang 12:54:09 !seen Grunt !seen the light 12:54:09 I last saw Grunt at Wed Jun 4 17:50:32 2014 UTC (3m 37s ago) saying '!seen gammafunk' on ##crawl-dev. 12:54:20 Grunt: but here I am! 12:56:44 |amethyst: were you ever able to get your x86_64 build tested? 12:59:06 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:18 <|amethyst> johnny0: about to try it now 12:59:27 <|amethyst> johnny0: having problems with the luajit submodule for some reason 13:01:04 |amethyst: ahh alright, just wondering if you still needed someone to try building 13:01:45 |amethyst: I made http://sprunge.us/NGig?diff to fix a crash that occurs when running -mapstat 'Slime,!Slime:$' with the following slime vaults: http://sprunge.us/MDNF 13:02:06 <|amethyst> neunon: Looks like you pushed a change to the luajit submodule a few weeks ago, but it looks like crawl still refers to the old commit or something? 13:02:11 It'd definitely one of these vaults triggering the crash, but I don't know which and only partially understand the wall fixup code 13:03:46 <|amethyst> neunon: I'm getting an error when I try to update or init the submodule 13:04:09 somehow the A* search algo can't find a path between two components based on a path through non-adjacent-to-wall cells 13:05:03 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I don't really know that code either 13:05:12 oh I guess cheibrodos_slime_lost_civilization_6 and cheibrodos_slime_lost_civilization_5 are the likely culprits 13:05:25 er no 13:05:28 only _5 13:05:36 yeah I bet it's 5 13:05:44 hrm 13:06:15 I'm not sure if that check happens after all the subst/shuffle, I'd guess it would 13:06:30 in which case not 5, but maybe 6 I guess 13:06:49 but in any case I'm not sure if it's a problem; my fix just ignored the situation when no path is found 13:06:52 so I guess I'll push it 13:13:37 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:44 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:25:58 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:27 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:47 -!- bazzie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:29:51 <|amethyst> neunon: fixed (I repushed the older one to a different branch) 13:30:36 <|amethyst> neunon: should we have new crawl builds use the newer version there? And what about 0.14.2 when that's released? 13:32:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1268-g97cf85e: Allow using Luajit on 64-bit systems (#8641) 10(43 minutes ago, 2 files, 25+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=97cf85e3ad4f 13:35:39 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:47 -!- Redz has left ##crawl-dev 13:36:04 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1269-g8ca96ae: Rearrange some comments. 10(30 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ca96ae944f1 13:39:43 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 13:40:54 -!- bazzie has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:50:27 -!- ystael_ is now known as ystael 13:53:45 -!- Watball is now known as WatballWonka 14:02:24 -!- WatballWonka is now known as Watball 14:07:56 -!- casmith789 has quit [Client Quit] 14:09:39 -!- Nightbeer is now known as Ladykiller69 14:11:10 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:44 -!- casmith789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:16:52 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25:51 hmm, after compiling a clean master checkout with "make USE_LUAJIT=1" on x86_64, i get "crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/meat.des:490: Unknown error compiling chunk" when running the executable 14:33:43 johnny0: merging chunkless will fix that anyway 14:33:47 don't worry about it 14:34:03 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:18 heh 14:35:16 minmay: future of chunks is very unclear at the moment. 14:35:31 * dpeg has seen the future, and it is chunky. 14:35:44 dcss: creamy edition 14:36:38 gross 14:38:17 I have a cream! 14:38:51 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:41:15 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:03 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:43:26 -!- SamB__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:11 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:56:55 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:03:18 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03:54 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:05:15 <|amethyst> so what would be a good replacement for stone golem in igni wrath 15:05:33 <|amethyst> iron golem is somewhat beefier but might work 15:05:49 <|amethyst> or earth elemental? 15:06:59 -!- eb_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:15 <|amethyst> oh, I guess there is already a chance for an iron golem, and it is considered an upgrade 15:08:01 are Qazlal's powers based on skill or piety? 15:08:03 <|amethyst> I guess I'll go with earth elemental for now to keep it from crashing 15:08:57 <|amethyst> LexAckson: invocations 15:09:19 okay, cool 15:09:33 <|amethyst> hm 15:09:56 <|amethyst> storm noise is based on piety 15:10:17 is oof still in the wrath set 15:10:19 <|amethyst> and elemental adaptation gets better with piety rank 15:10:25 <|amethyst> gammafunk: it is :) 15:11:00 that seemed a bit silly to me, but I guess zerked stone giants are pretty bad 15:11:09 are they durable summons for igni? 15:11:40 for trog they're actual summons iirc 15:11:59 so they can at least be abjured, possibly, although I guess you could argue that's a bad thing 15:12:47 03|amethyst02 07[smithgod_rebased] * 0.15-a0-1176-g886b033: Replace stone golems with earth elementals in Igni wrath (#8643) 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=886b03354b12 15:13:47 Trog shields an ally from your puny magic! 15:13:55 that's what I get when trying to abjure trog's summons in wizmode 15:14:27 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:14:56 oh, they're abjurable alright 15:15:01 I guess it's just a spellpower thing 15:15:18 Experimental (smithgod_rebased) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1176-g886b033 15:15:54 <|amethyst> Kvaak: yeah, cuts monster abjuration power in half, player power to 8/15 15:16:03 <|amethyst> not sure why that's different 15:16:13 at high enough power you can still abjure almost everything in one turn though 15:16:36 <|amethyst> you shouldn't get the message then 15:16:47 <|amethyst> only when it will survive the abjuration 15:17:20 yep 15:21:25 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:22:28 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:22:44 |amethyst: does your x86_64 luajit build run and parse .des files correctly? 15:23:15 <|amethyst> johnny0: I didn't actually try, I just verified that the warnings etc worked correctly 15:24:34 <|amethyst> johnny0: are you using contrib luajit or your own? 15:24:40 contrib 15:24:58 <|amethyst> johnny0: does it help if you switch it to the crawl-20140511 branch? 15:25:36 <|amethyst> ( cd contrib/luajit; git checkout crawl-20140511 ) 15:25:38 -!- Basil has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7] 15:25:43 i'll update, recompile, and let you know 15:25:54 <|amethyst> johnny0: if not, post it on mantis 15:26:00 <|amethyst> actually, either way :) 15:26:05 alrighty 15:26:08 -!- MDvedh has quit [Client Quit] 15:37:20 -!- SamB__ is now known as SamB 15:39:59 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:43:12 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:47:36 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:06 interesting... it throws stack overflow errors now... but if i re-run the executable a few times it seems to be able to process everything eventually 15:50:00 -!- Tenda has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 15:54:42 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:09 <|amethyst> hm 15:58:15 <|amethyst> wonder if it works right on 32-bit 16:00:53 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:56 i tried increasing my stack size and recompiling with the old luajit -- no dice 16:01:11 trying with a bigger stack size and newer luajit 16:05:05 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:05:30 how's that "orc knights not picking up every stone on the ground and throwing them for ridiculous damage" thing coming along? 16:05:34 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07:33 Kvaak: I thought the only obstacle to monpickup is Beogh, but I am might easily miss something. 16:07:39 okay 16:09:55 hmm, so debian jessie's default stack size is 8MiB, crawl+luajit stack overflows at 8MiB and 16MiB when parsing .des files for the first time -- i upped the stack size to 64MiB and it finally generated w/o an overflow 16:11:40 <|amethyst> johnny0: when you say stack size, do you mean the process's OS stack, or something in luajit? 16:11:51 the stack size reported by ulimit 16:11:54 <|amethyst> ... 16:11:56 so bash's stack size i guess 16:12:22 <|amethyst> I guess luajit has a recursive parser 16:12:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:12:52 <|amethyst> or uses recursion somewhere it probably shouldn't these days 16:13:02 <|amethyst> (not in C anyway) 16:13:13 heheh 16:14:13 i know luajit allows a custom page size and offset, but i couldn't find anything about stack manipulation 16:14:43 and searching for "stack overflow" in google sucks, even with -site:stackoverflow.com :/ 16:23:46 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:11 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:28:04 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:27 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:32:38 is the user of account johnnyzero in here? 16:33:08 that's me -- i forgot my mantis password :( 16:33:55 and comcast is replying: 554 imta30.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net comcast ESMTP server not available 16:34:09 so no mail delivery to you at the moment 16:34:19 did someone reset it for you manually already? 16:34:46 ahh strange, thanks for the info -- nobody has reset it yet 16:35:48 wait 16:35:53 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:35:56 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:36:31 messaged you privately here in irc, johnny0 16:37:42 Napkin: got it, thanks! 16:37:59 great :) 16:39:50 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:45:03 is there any particular reason items with *rage are red for chei worshippers? he doesn't get mad even if the berserkitis triggers 16:45:53 -!- Moonsilence_de has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:46:02 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 16:52:29 he probably should get mad 16:52:37 (so that's a bug) 16:53:25 I thought getting mad was specifically removed, which would make the red a fossil 16:54:48 -!- omniguy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:56:02 yep, fossil it looks like 16:57:42 %git 151c267 16:57:42 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-688-g151c267: Don't claim Cheibriados dislikes +rage items (#8295). 10(4 weeks ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=151c26771ee7 16:57:51 we have this but not corresponding for *Rage 16:57:55 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:58:36 (or maybe I'm misunderstanding somewhere --- not quite tracking well today...) 16:59:21 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03:38 no, you misunderstood that commit 17:03:47 chei still gets mad at you berserking 17:04:30 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:04:31 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:04:53 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:05:30 <|amethyst> hm 17:05:35 <|amethyst> I'm not sure this actually worked: 17:05:41 <|amethyst> %git ddce0479 17:05:41 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-896-gddce047: Make cold-bloodedness go away in transformations (#8496). 10(2 weeks ago, 5 files, 21+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ddce04797bb7 17:07:28 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:07:42 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:01 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:09:35 -!- Alarkh has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:11:21 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-1270-g1188800: Make cold-bloodedness actually go away in transformations. 10(42 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1188800c9d48 17:11:46 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:12 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:04 bh (L27 SpEn) ASSERT(in_bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1416 failed. (mon->target = (0,41)) (D:1) 17:15:37 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:15:41 I really ought to fix that bug. 17:16:00 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:30 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-1269-g8ca96ae (34) 17:20:58 -!- Nomi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21:09 ? 17:21:30 luajit2 - x86_64 build and runtime issues (unknown errors, missing libs, and stack overflows) by johnnyzero 17:21:43 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:22 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:37 PleasingFungus: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8384 17:26:49 o 17:26:53 that seems like a good thing to fix 17:29:35 * Grunt grunts. 17:29:53 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:29:57 * Zannick zannicks 17:30:07 ...as Zannick often does? 17:30:26 I can't stop! 17:31:14 tragic 17:32:03 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:32:47 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:33:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:41 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 17:36:44 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-1271-gffd7f2f: Show branch bribe totals in the right place (dpeg). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ffd7f2f0d2b2 17:37:22 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:38:20 PleasingFungus: happily, it has an ASSERT() in the crashlog 17:39:26 i wonder if the assert is different if it's the corner instead of an edge 17:39:52 give me a second and I'll let you see 17:40:35 bh (L3 FoEn) ASSERT(in_bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1416 failed. (mon->target = (0,69)) (D:1) 17:43:34 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:54 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:46:58 -!- Keanan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:47:15 Is there any way to edit my bugs' descriptions as a reporter in mantis? My description text looks a bit goofy with the way my links got parsed 17:47:23 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:49:52 <|amethyst> johnny0: updated 17:50:07 <|amethyst> johnny0: if you don't have an "Update issue" button, then probably not 17:50:17 <|amethyst> I'm not sure though 17:52:24 |amethyst: ahh that's what I figured -- thanks 17:52:55 <|amethyst> johnny0: you can link to issues with just #8641 17:53:02 <|amethyst> johnny0: which is what I changed part of it to 17:53:10 -!- SamB__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:18 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:20 -!- meatman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:53:20 oh cool 17:53:24 <|amethyst> johnny0: and doesn't work, but URLs auto-link as you saw 17:54:19 <|amethyst> johnny0: thanks for testing and the report, btw 17:54:38 -!- fallenxxxsky has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0-dev] 17:56:02 -!- six40sword has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:58:29 ahh no problem -- i have a build environment set up for te4 which has pretty much everything crawl needs, so i figured i'd give it a shot 17:59:12 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:01:08 -!- imantor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:01:51 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:03:59 -!- SamB__ is now known as SamB 18:12:53 -!- LogicNinja has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:14:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:15:06 -!- predator217 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:19:45 -!- namad8 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:20:56 -!- casmith789 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:25:25 -!- Taraiph has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:29:56 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:08 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38:11 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:38:47 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:47 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:39:11 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:29 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:43:37 -!- johnny0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:43:55 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:44:12 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:46:29 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:46:56 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:47:01 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:48:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:51:52 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:58:30 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:01 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:06:11 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:51 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:13:43 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:02 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:38 -!- FVG has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:21:52 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:24:23 -!- Hailley has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:57 -!- sd1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:27:46 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:36 -!- FVG has quit [Client Quit] 19:31:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:37:45 -!- Zermako has quit [] 19:39:44 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:39 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:45:22 -!- Ladykiller69 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:55 -!- zxc232 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:30 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:38 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:56:47 -!- Morik_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:58:19 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:59:43 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:00:01 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:48 -!- Nomi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:03:24 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:08 -!- Kramin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:06:17 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:06:27 -!- schistosomatic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:35 -!- eb_ has quit [] 20:09:18 -!- twelwe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11:01 what’s up with monster item pickup? 20:13:52 -!- myrmidette has left ##crawl-dev 20:16:21 -!- bfein__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:23 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:22:32 -!- Kramin42 has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 20:27:52 -!- Kittykai has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:14 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:43:16 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:46:29 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:42 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:39 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:50:09 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:07 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:57:55 -!- Lasty has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:59:47 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 21:01:19 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:00 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:52 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:09:41 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:05 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:00 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:17:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:17:25 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:22 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:19:43 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:24:13 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:27:11 -!- zxc232 has left ##crawl-dev 21:28:01 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:30:46 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:03 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:36:26 -!- FVG has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:37:21 hm. let's say I want to make a pile of chunks, in code. (c++.) 21:37:24 ...how? 21:37:30 this item code is confusing 21:39:59 -!- CommunistPharaoh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:40:22 -!- Euph0riaX is now known as Openmind 21:45:25 -!- Openmind has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:10 -!- rbrrk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:51:56 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:48 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:52:49 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 21:54:22 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:58:11 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:04:09 -!- Euph0riaX is now known as Openmind 22:07:59 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 22:13:57 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 22:14:09 -!- Toxic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:14:11 -!- crate_ is now known as crate 22:14:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:15:41 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:16:35 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16:35 -!- Openmind has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:54 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:19:26 PleasingFungus: hmm, do chunks still know what species they're of? 22:19:30 in which case it's tricky 22:19:37 oh right sorry not chunks 22:19:41 I meant meat rations 22:19:43 oh 22:19:46 that's a lot simpler 22:19:47 sorry 22:19:49 yes I imagine 22:20:17 no need to look up where the extra data is supposed to be shoehorned ;-P 22:22:18 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 22:25:00 -!- Morik_ has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:26:17 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:47 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:27:57 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:28:05 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:28:22 so...? 22:28:34 PleasingFungus: You buff the item.quantity number 22:28:46 Sorry, just started rereading the backlog 22:29:04 Might want to look at how ng-setup.cc does it (Trunk or master doesn't matter) 22:29:56 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1272-gceaffaa: Change the spawn range of worms like beetles 10(54 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ceaffaa0d579 22:29:56 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1273-g5eb314e: Move giant slug tiles to /UNUSED 10(39 minutes ago, 3 files, 0+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5eb314e3e4c7 22:31:07 that code's a bit different, since it puts items into the player's inventory 22:31:20 PleasingFungus: Well what exactly do you want to do? 22:31:31 -!- Wahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:04 hm 22:33:08 I may or may not have actually resolved it 22:37:38 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:39 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:41 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:41:48 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:42:06 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:43:20 huh. this is crashing the game with 'invalid item' errors 22:43:23 when I try to save 22:43:25 not before 22:47:01 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:47:02 http://pastebin.com/EpgHqsiU any idea what I'm doing wrong here? 22:50:27 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:50:42 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:51:36 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:52:00 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:52:06 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:07 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:53:11 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: what about item_colour(mitm[slot]) ? 22:53:11 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:53:30 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: also, it's probably best to set up the item directly in the slot rather than making one on the stack and coying it in 22:53:40 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: though that wouldn't cause your invalid item 22:54:06 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: that is: item_def &food = mitm[slot]; food.base_type(OBJ_FOOD); etc 22:54:59 ah - earlier I was using something closer to that 22:55:10 changed it to the pastebinned code in a flailing attempt at shotgun debugging 22:55:13 will try item_colour. 22:55:51 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:56:11 <|amethyst> or you could do int slot = items(false, OBJ_FOOD, FOOD_MEAT_RATION, true, 0) then move that to the grid 22:57:01 still need to get the item_def to set qty, yes? 22:57:06 <|amethyst> but I guess you'd still have to adjust the quantity 22:57:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:57:32 <|amethyst> right, so mitm[slot].quantity = food_qty 22:57:49 <|amethyst> after you make it (and verify that items didn't return NON_ITEM 22:57:50 <|amethyst> ) 22:58:52 aight, looks like that works. 22:58:54 Thanks! 22:59:31 man, this *feels* like it's giving very little food... 23:01:14 with the "50% of average chunk value" settings 23:02:17 PleasingFungus: Are you implementing that "meat rations you get are based on how much chunks you use to get" idea? 23:02:45 yes 23:03:48 HilariousDeathArtist (L22 DsAK) ERROR in 'cloud.cc' at line 360: cloud flame in closed_door at (44,41) (Elf:1) 23:03:51 the odds of a given jackal dropping anything, for example, is about one in 40. odds are that item is a meat ration - which is a lot better than what a jackal used to give - but... 23:04:03 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:04:05 very 'spiky' distribution 23:04:30 even elephants only have about a 1/3 chance of dropping anything, I think 23:04:31 -!- HDA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:57 Opened door vault on Elf:1, tossed some lamps of fire, then tried to use Corruption 23:05:20 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:06:02 PleasingFungus: Hmm, and what do you think this adds to the game to justify that new spikiness? 23:06:16 the problem is I think it's much closer to where food should be 23:06:18 to match current levels 23:06:28 but yeah I'm not pushing for this 23:06:45 tbh I think I might bow out on future food/chunkless discussions 23:06:48 PleasingFungus: What does "I'm not pushing for this" mean? 23:06:49 shit is exhausting and not at all fun 23:07:12 reaverb: I am not saying that this implementation of food drops is good, nor am I going to push it in its current state 23:07:21 since: it's bad 23:07:36 PleasingFungus: Hmm, good to know. 23:07:39 ha 23:07:40 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 23:07:42 a noble experiment 23:07:51 at least I learned something about crawl's item code! 23:08:01 Did you comment any functions? 23:08:24 three, two of which I added 23:08:29 the last comment is not super exciting 23:08:35 Good! 23:08:52 ? 23:12:03 (That you added comments) 23:12:18 -!- zercules has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:13:04 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:14:54 -!- HDA_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:15:15 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:47 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:22:33 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:23:49 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:25:21 huh. SPFLAG_MAPPING probably doesn't need to still be a thing. 23:25:41 PleasingFungus: There are a lot of the things in Crawl source which probably don't need to be things. 23:25:57 true 23:26:04 I... strongly doubt this is marshalled anywhere 23:26:13 so I think I'll just remove it? 23:26:31 hm. then again, there's a commented out flag, suggesting someone was worried... 23:26:38 PleasingFungus: I would compile and load a save after removing it, other than that, yeah. 23:26:52 -!- allbefore has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:26:55 I would just remove it. 23:26:58 I suspect if you remove it and you don't get any complaints from the serialization code ;-) 23:27:12 !send SamB Jorgrun the moth of chaos 23:27:12 Sending Jorgrun the moth of chaos to SamB. 23:27:29 SamB: Well, if it's an enum and it's never directly referred to. 23:27:45 then you don't get a complaint. 23:27:47 hmm. 23:28:16 maybe leave it in a comment until the next compat bump? dunno. 23:28:19 what we should probably do is make something which allows us to use CrawlHashTable instead of enums. 23:28:27 if it's just one enumerator 23:28:36 <|amethyst> spell flags marshalled 23:28:42 <|amethyst> and anyway, they're a bitfield 23:28:49 <|amethyst> err 23:28:53 <|amethyst> aren't marshalled 23:28:55 I have a horrifically overcomplicated idea involving autogenerated souce files to do that. 23:28:59 hahaha 23:29:05 sounds like a real improvement for code clarity! 23:29:12 PleasingFungus: is that a joke? 23:29:17 yes 23:29:20 sometimes I make those 23:29:33 I think the "hahaha" at the beginning was a indication of that. 23:29:41 point 23:29:53 gonna leave this as a comment for now - reordering all the enums seems like it's more likely to cause some stupid error 23:30:14 but, well, some code generators do help 23:30:15 PleasingFungus: So you'll just TAG_MAJOR_VERSION it? 23:30:16 <|amethyst> PleasingFungus: see the 0x020000 below 23:30:21 e.g. lex/yacc ;-P 23:30:28 |amethyst: yes, that's exactly what I'm doing 23:30:31 <|amethyst> this doesn't need TAG_MAJOR_VERSION 23:30:37 reaverb: it has nothing to do with save compat 23:30:42 <|amethyst> 1. he's not changing the values of any enumerators 23:30:46 PleasingFungus: Hmm, sorry. 23:30:53 it's aight 23:30:59 <|amethyst> 2. even if he were, spell flags aren't marhsalled anywhere 23:31:35 |amethyst: yeah, I was just saying that, IF the enum got marshalled, it might be wise to comment out the enumerator and mark it to be totally removed on bump 23:31:45 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:08 <|amethyst> SamB: these have specified values though 23:32:24 <|amethyst> SPFLAG_MAPPING = 0x001000, // a mapping spell of some kind 23:32:28 <|amethyst> SPFLAG_ESCAPE = 0x002000, // useful for running away 23:32:30 <|amethyst> etc 23:32:45 <|amethyst> so it wouldn't shift anything else 23:32:55 oh yeah, we have minor bumps to clear that kind of thing at ... 23:32:58 * SamB is tired or something 23:33:16 it's not any kind of bump, it's just whenever someone feels like reordering spell flags 23:33:21 it's not a saves issue 23:33:30 PleasingFungus: since it's not serialized, yeah 23:33:33 yep 23:33:36 you should rest :) 23:33:47 <|amethyst> I was kind of thinking about adding another spell flag soon anyway 23:34:00 I'm clearing space for you! :) 23:34:02 What flag? 23:34:03 <|amethyst> to say "this is profitably cast on either friends or foes" 23:34:07 ahh 23:34:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:34:24 <|amethyst> like SPFLAG_NEUTRAL but a little better for targeting 23:34:34 <|amethyst> maybe tweaking SPFLAG_NEUTRAL would work though 23:34:43 <|amethyst> this would be for inner flame 23:36:03 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1274-g1aca2ce: Remove a dusty & disused spellflag 10(5 minutes ago, 3 files, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1aca2cef8295 23:37:44 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:49 The marshalled enum idea was basically "Scan the source for marshalled enums" (Probably indicated by some comment or Macro). Autogenerate functions which mapped the enums to strings of the enum name (MONS_BAT -> "MONS_BAT", and vice versa), and then use the autogenerated mapping functions to marshall and unmarashall the keys programmatically. 23:38:02 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:07 Why? 23:38:38 PleasingFungus: So we don't get errors like Jorgun replaced by chaos butterfly :D 23:38:55 or have to keep TAG_MAJOR_VERSION ing stuff. 23:38:57 but it's so fun... 23:39:13 yeah, that's decent reasoning. probably not worth the added complexity, though. 23:39:17 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:39:32 reaverb: sort of like what we do for tiles, except without the variant numbering? 23:39:48 SamB: I'm not really familar with what we do for tiles. 23:40:25 the name/number correspondence gets serialized 23:41:12 SamB: It would have the same effect, yes. 23:42:59 -!- Makrond has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:43:44 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:45:17 -!- CSDCS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:47:00 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:38 hm. should amulets of rage be marked forbidden for chei? +rage items aren't. 23:47:49 but amulets of rage are only good for raging... 23:48:19 Can you +rage with getting Chei penance? 23:48:43 Yes, but the ability is marked in red, which is why +rage *items* are no longer marked forbidden. 23:49:01 %git :/rage 23:49:01 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1213-g7ca0c7f: Give monsters a chance to drop meat perma-food on death 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 11+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7ca0c7fded90 23:49:03 PleasingFungus: I would say they should be marked forbidden, yes. 23:49:09 <|amethyst> hm, what about the passing-out-protection? 23:49:12 <|amethyst> if you have *rage 23:49:21 Oh, hmm, well never mind then. 23:49:45 also, I suspect randart amulets with 'rage' as a base would also be marked forbidden 23:50:05 yep 23:50:12 oh is chunkless in trunk now 23:50:15 no 23:50:17 How relevant is the passing-out-protection anyway? 23:50:21 not very tbh 23:50:25 simmarein: No, Chei is weird. 23:50:29 not very relevant since it doesn't exist 23:50:38 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: oh, it doesn't? 23:50:42 Ha, it was removed. 23:50:45 ? 23:50:45 doesnt trog give some form of it 23:50:48 it's just berserkitis that prevents passing out 23:50:50 and trog 23:50:56 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:51:21 other berserk sources (having the spell memorised, wearing the amulet) did used to help too in the distant past 23:51:22 amulet of rage has a chance of extending berserk duration on kills, right? 23:51:39 1/30 chance, yep 23:51:42 <|amethyst> which isn't something chei would probably support anyway :) 23:52:03 Still the base type issue. 23:52:14 %git d39ed373 23:52:14 07MarvinPA02 * 0.9.0-a0-2-gd39ed37: Remove some special-cased bonuses for passing out after berserking 10(3 years, 2 months ago, 1 file, 1+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d39ed3739412 23:52:15 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52:38 that comment is some interesting reason 23:52:48 s/is/has 23:53:15 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:54:25 I could always only mark non-randart rage amulets as forbidden 23:55:08 that seems... the least misleading? 23:55:25 That seems fine. 23:55:38 (This is a general problem with the idea of base types) 23:55:40 alternatively let people berserk under chei since it is horrible anyway 23:55:46 they can 23:55:52 oh, I see what you mean 23:55:57 eh 23:56:25 I wouldn't be that opposed, Chei conducts are inconsistant anyway. 23:56:40 huh. apparently the ability isn't marked forbidden at all 23:56:42 'oops' 23:56:58 (See: The argument about quickblades the ohter day) 23:57:48 I mean, he suppresses the haste effect from berserk, but not the haste effect from haste 23:58:20 is there a restriction on 2 character names for servers? I've seen plenty of them, but bh is not able to create a username 'bh' on cbro. I can't create one called 'hb' but I can create 'hbb'. bh nor hb existed as a user prior 23:58:21 so if you are going to do the former you may as well just allow berserk I think 23:58:40 I see xw on CBRO, so I assume it's possible 23:59:10 oh man, finding all kinds of fun interactions 23:59:16 You feel very guilty. You have lost your religion! Cheibriados does not appreciate desertion! No God forces you to slow down. 23:59:38 Ha. 23:59:45 apparently console can register a 2 character username 23:59:49 that's weird 23:59:54 the wrath of god_no_god.....