00:01:24 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.1-10-gba40d31 00:07:59 oh wow did weightlessness land in trunk 00:08:22 -!- CSDCMS has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08:24 it did 00:08:26 Done, PleasingFungus is now a DGL admin. ; Done, 78291 is now a DGL admin. 00:08:28 very nice 00:08:31 Excellent! 00:08:31 and now it is truly likve on cszo 00:08:31 <|amethyst> reaverb: see? 00:08:33 Thank you. 00:08:36 np 00:08:52 time to update and play my kobold thrower who was having weight issues 00:08:53 finally, we can move ahead with the moonbase branch 00:08:56 <|amethyst> reaverb: I don't think I'll have this finished tonight, but tomorrow 00:08:57 probably a good time to see if any other devs have finally shown up at CBRO and anoint them too 00:09:04 how he can carry his hundred+ tomahawks 00:09:04 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-1063-g1601e18 (34) 00:09:05 now, rather 00:09:27 i guess first i have to back up that save for MarvinPA 00:09:51 Show weights 00:09:52 Pressing Ctrl-W toggles the display of item weights. 00:09:54 i found a bug 00:10:06 that didnt sound terribly hard to find 00:10:10 a dev should probably fix that. 00:10:13 if only we had any here... 00:10:18 if only :( 00:10:32 oh 00:10:35 I thought I removed that! 00:10:36 I'm gonna be a dev when I grow up. Also, I'll drive a firetruck. 00:10:38 It has a curse placed upon it, and it weighs around 27.0 aum. 00:11:31 good 00:11:37 mm I'll have to start another SpSk tomorrow and hoard tomahawks again 00:11:42 |amethyst: Oh sorry, didn't mean to leave you hanging, let me reread the logs. 00:11:42 ugh 00:11:44 this is awful 00:11:46 err, read. 00:11:47 MarvinPA: where are you pressing ctrl-w? 00:11:52 it looks like i pressed ^w except i didnt 00:11:55 my inventory is so naked 00:12:02 gammafunk: that's on the inventory help screen 00:12:08 gammafunk: imo update the changelog 00:12:25 dat/database/help.txt i think? 00:12:39 |amethyst: I mentioned some of the short_text durations were odd in tone, and you said "let me see" 00:12:40 oh ok 00:12:55 and then I didn't hear from you so I didn't know how you felt about the issue. 00:13:03 yeah and the description removal of weight got reverted by rebase surgery 00:13:06 I'm willing to implement option 4 00:13:32 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14.1-10-gba40d31 (34) 00:13:49 simm (L16 KoWn) ERROR: range check error (27002 / 2000) (Lab) 00:13:50 good 00:13:59 accidentally threw a net i didnt mean to 00:14:08 crash in labyrinth by sim 00:14:08 hrm 00:14:13 good Cheibriados 00:14:17 !crashlog simm 00:14:18 14. simm, XL16 KoWn, T:34944 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/simm/crash-simm-20140527-051346.txt 00:14:24 is that our first weightless-in-trunk crash? 00:14:32 Done, MarvinPA is now a DGL admin. 00:14:36 or maybe it's that same weird lab crash from earlier 00:14:41 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:14:50 nah, its not weight-related 00:14:53 this happened yesterday or so 00:15:57 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:20:02 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:22:09 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:23:11 found a "bug" 00:23:24 item weight is still mentioned when you xv something 00:24:24 yeah, I'm fixing that 00:30:06 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:04 %git 00:34:04 07gammafunk02 * 0.15-a0-1063-g1601e18: Place carrion below movable items in item stacks 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 48+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1601e189db52 00:34:09 oops 00:34:33 03gammafunk02 07* 0.15-a0-1064-gdf5a4c5: Remove obsolete references to item weight and update the changelog 10(5 minutes ago, 4 files, 8+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=df5a4c5138b3 00:34:57 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:34:58 wrong version in that changelog 00:35:01 *sich* 00:35:04 oh yes, corpse pickup isnt a thing now right? 00:35:04 *sigh* 00:35:08 right 00:35:10 rip 00:35:13 rip 00:35:27 ill miss carrying a corpse so i can chop it because an orc warrior is wandering and hasnt spotted me yet 00:35:36 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:35:39 have to drag his friends body away from the scene of the crime 00:35:41 heh 00:35:49 corpse slap, gone the way of hillbilly sting 00:36:08 rip in peace 00:36:44 anyone have a summary for the food changes? 00:36:58 'fruit got all mashed together and gross' 00:37:00 simmarine: With some luck, chopping corpses will be gone soon too! 00:37:09 i like sub 00:37:12 'devs ate all the sausage & cheese' 00:37:18 'the pizza remains' 00:38:58 PleasingFungus: if you'd like to update the changelog with the food changes and your unrand, you'd be my best friend... 00:39:10 awww 00:39:11 Also Trunk updates. 00:39:14 gimme a sec to find it 00:39:33 -!- Morik has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 00:39:42 PleasingFungus: don't forget to update the crawl version (from build.h) at the top of the changelog like I did 00:39:48 PleasingFungus: it's in docs 00:39:58 reaverb: trunk updates? 00:40:20 wordpres 00:40:20 -!- darktwinge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:40:21 s 00:40:24 trunk updates are what I was referring to, but yeah if there are some I missed 00:40:27 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:40:29 oh ok 00:40:46 I don't have wordpress access 00:40:55 and tavern has declared my posts B+ grade anyhow 00:40:56 I never got the promised wordpress email 00:41:00 so I don't have any access either 00:41:03 gammafunk: dang, cold! 00:41:12 gammafunk: PleasingFungus: should tell dpeg. 00:41:13 inorite 00:41:18 isn't he out-of-town? 00:41:23 Ok, I have a wordpress acount, I'll do it. 00:41:37 I don't know if dpeg is availible. 00:41:57 Just !tell him. 00:42:29 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:42:30 reaverb: you might wait until after you've merged new_nemelex 00:42:32 for wordpress 00:42:43 since that's another big change coming very soon 00:42:45 !tell dpeg I never got the wordpress email that was going to give me access to cdo. 00:42:45 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 00:42:47 gammafunk: Hmm, can that happen in the next couple days? 00:42:51 'something like that' 00:42:57 ??majin-bo 00:42:57 Majin-Bo[1/2]: +6,+6 Majin-Bo {vamp, Archmagi, MP+6 Int+6}. It's a quarterstaff! Acts as a universal spell enhancer, but costs HP every time you cast a spell: 1 HP per MP spent. (This will never kill you, directly.) 00:43:08 yeah I don't see why not; we can always change what we don't like about nem 00:43:27 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:31 ??majin-bo[2] 00:43:31 Majin-Bo[2/2]: Formerly known as the Quarterstaff of the Hellbinder, formerly known as the Black Staff, not formerly known as the Black Bikeshed but it could've been. Final name decided by !rng. 00:44:03 ertaesrsfl of the Hellbinder 00:44:19 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44:51 so it's not "Majin-Bo of the Hellbinder" then 00:45:10 Hmm, from some curiary reserach Majin-Bo seems better than Oni-Bo 00:45:13 -!- Syndicus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:45:23 Althought I was hampered by all the Dragon Ball results. 00:45:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:45:30 it was actually an !rng between 'Majin-Bo' and 'Akuma-Bo' 00:45:44 I think magicpoints was the one who suggested those? I forget; it'd be in the logs 00:46:13 I need to have a discussion about how to make a Roguelike from scratch; because I honestly don't know where to start. Anyone that's done such a thing before PM me. I know it's unrelated to channel topic so I won't have it in channel, but I thought this was a good place to find someone. 00:47:01 Hmm, either of those names seems fin. 00:47:02 stop spamming this channel 00:47:03 i kinda wish something was done about Bcadren and his constant advertisement in here/##crawl 00:47:28 other irc channels have 'ban' functionality, which seems quite powerful 00:47:30 yes if it continues i am pretty happy to kick him 00:47:37 it's continued for literally months 00:47:39 yes 00:48:36 ??quite powerful 00:48:37 quite powerful[1/11]: 0.8 mummy 00:48:39 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:48:44 good, that still exists 00:48:53 oh, I have him on ignore, so I don't even see that 00:49:10 I have him on ignore and I am permanently annoyed by bcadren anyway 00:49:12 that's how bad it is 00:51:49 ??flaming death 00:51:50 scimitar of flaming death[1/1]: the +7,+5 scimitar of Flaming Death {flame, rPois rF++ rC- MR+} 00:52:15 It's dpeg's fault I got stuck back here. I never intended to come back, but...maybe, just maybe what I've learned from it will be helpful longterm. 00:54:33 hm. worth mentioning new icons in the changelog? 00:55:03 ontoclasm's 00:55:10 PleasingFungus: Well we don't mention new tiles one by one so I don't think we should mention a sweep. 00:55:21 mm. it's a pretty comprehensive sweep, though. 00:55:26 I'm doing it. I'm making the mention 00:55:32 Fine, go ahead. 00:55:43 it may be a mistake... but I'm willing to take that risk 00:55:44 Destroyer of Changelogs 00:55:45 better to be too comprehensive than too little. 00:55:55 Well, until it becomes unreadable, of course. :) 00:56:44 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:57:11 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:49 OK, I think that's everything. now to find the version number. 00:57:54 Meh, you know what I mean. 00:58:07 Sure. 00:58:08 PleasingFungus: gfoo is the commit. 00:58:26 ? 00:59:28 PleasingFungus: build.h 00:59:36 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 00:59:41 neat 00:59:45 after you make crawl, that is 00:59:57 after I make crawl, I just launch it and look in the top-right 01:00:05 yeah, that too 01:00:06 that was the strategy I used 01:00:08 but if you like 01:00:10 copy and paste 01:00:12 PleasingFungus: at the end of version number is says -g[SHA]. That's the commit. This confused me for a long time. 01:00:18 03PleasingFungus02 07* 0.15-a0-1065-g55a2cfc: Changelog through 0.15-a0-1064-gdf5a4c5. 10(76 seconds ago, 1 file, 14+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=55a2cfcae7c2 01:00:19 and aren't in console etc 01:00:41 oh no, but that version in the changelog is one commit old 01:00:45 better update the changelog 01:00:46 does the 'g' stand for 'git'? 01:00:52 yeah 01:01:13 can't believe I never caught that 01:01:27 I think 's' is used by some when svn is the management system 01:01:35 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 01:01:35 a never-ending cycle... a sisyphean struggle, like pushing a boulder-form up a hill 01:01:45 someday I will get that boulder form working. this is my oath 01:01:46 I don't like how it says "one gooey, messy item type." It sounds like you're passive aggressively disagreeing with the change. 01:02:01 PleasingFungus: There are tools you can use to set the git commit message by altering the time. 01:02:04 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:02:22 So you can use that to sync up the commit SHA in the changelog and the SHA which adds the changelog. 01:02:39 that seems excessive 01:02:44 the gooey thing is a joke 01:02:49 it is funny, because it is fruit 01:02:57 It's the only joke in the entire changelog. 01:03:03 Sort of violates the tone. 01:03:03 clearly that should be changed 01:03:04 welllllll 01:03:11 I am more than happy to add more jokes. 01:03:16 that's not really true 01:03:21 grunt uses joke language a lot 01:03:27 gammafunk: Hmm, where's the other joke? 01:03:29 s 01:03:32 I think it's only if it's deliberate deception 01:03:33 good s 01:03:38 reaverb: looks at the 0.14 changelog 01:03:41 *look 01:04:19 grunt says silly stuff in it; I only care if it's something deceptive like "remove all of pan" 01:04:29 "Ability icons have been improved" might be better than "reworked" -- especially for a graphical change. But that's minor 01:05:14 I'm ok with either; pretty sure onto was aiming to improve them 01:05:14 I felt like "improved" implied that they were modifications of the existing ones, whereas "reworked" was a little closer to the wholesale replacement going on. 01:05:18 again, though, minor 01:05:23 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:07:17 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:35 I don't see anything except maybe "Lamia has been de-throned." 01:07:43 Reskin. That's the proper term for replacing UI elements without changing their functionality. 01:07:45 gammafunk: In the 0.14 changelog. 01:08:48 simm (L16 KoWn) ERROR: range check error (27002 / 2000) (Lab) 01:10:10 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:10:42 Hmm, what species would be best for testing preliminary chunkless? I guess Troll. 01:11:30 i think a human book background would be nice 01:11:56 simmarine: I'll try that next. 01:12:26 reaverb: well we allow "mirth" in commit messages, and a little bit in changelog entries is fine. I think only misleading messages are problematic 01:12:31 it's a game after all 01:12:48 unless you all are making money for this, in which case I feel like a fool 01:12:54 as long as there are pizzas and death cobs in crawl, joy will remain. 01:13:01 ps rip triple swords. 01:13:11 Yes but commits come with a describtion of the changes so obvious that a machine can tell what it means 01:13:18 question 01:13:27 PleasingFungus: i still really want there to be a randart triple sword 01:13:32 ontoclasm: so do I! 01:13:36 plutonium sword 01:13:55 I was thinking about one when I was on my unrand-making spree, but I couldn't figure out what it'd do... 01:13:57 Lightli: yes? 01:14:19 ...wait, randart or unrand? 01:14:23 yes, and the changelog is not a thing we are sending into space by itself for an unknown alien intelligence to study in order to device crawl 01:14:41 s/device/devise/ 01:14:55 PleasingFungus: unrandart is the term for the fixed ones. 01:14:56 Brannock: well, i certainly -try- to improve stuff but i wouldn't want to assert that my stuff is better than what existed before 01:15:08 thanks for the compliment though :) 01:15:09 well ontoclasm said randart, so that was a little confusing 01:15:09 gammafunk: The entry still really bugs me. 01:15:15 oh 01:15:18 reaverb: that's why I was asking ontoclasm what he meant! (though technically fixedart and unrand mean different things) 01:15:20 yes, unrand, i'm dumb 01:15:25 I do that sometimes too 01:15:33 i thought fixedart/unrand distinction was gone 01:15:35 mental substitution of 'randart' for 'artefact' becomes automatic 01:15:43 simmarine: mostly 01:15:44 PleasingFungus: That only matter when they were handled differantly in the code. 01:15:56 there are still some filenames and enums 01:16:07 that specify unrand vs fixedart 01:17:04 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:17:19 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:19:48 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:26:02 Here: a two-headed ogre, wielding a two-headed ogre corpse 01:26:18 not a real bug, just a local dev bug 01:26:59 simm (L16 KoWn) ERROR: range check error (27002 / 2000) (Lab) 01:27:21 was just curious if it was actually moon troll leather armour! wouldve been funny but alas 01:28:02 ok. tukima's change is done & working. good night 01:28:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140524030204]] 01:28:16 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:21 what is the tukimas change? does anyone know 01:28:22 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 01:28:38 simmarine: based on his SA post on it 01:28:51 he was going to make it a hex that animates a target's weapon 01:28:56 i think 01:29:01 tukima's haunt 01:29:03 uh 01:29:04 interesting 01:29:04 something that was haunt-like, yeah 01:29:05 yes 01:30:13 dunno if it's intended to still work on the player too 01:32:04 -!- myrmidette has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:17 what's up with the new spell icons? some have a square frame some don't 01:32:22 is that intentional? 01:32:42 myrmidette: i'm not finished >.< 01:32:53 thay'll all have the outline in, uhm 01:32:56 2034 01:33:07 ...possibly sooner 01:33:24 is it really difficult, adding outlines 01:33:24 .......submissions welcome 01:33:34 like more difficult than redrawing the icon 01:33:46 we're redrawing them 01:34:02 and adding outlines in the process 01:34:04 I'm just anal-retentive about it :P wouldn't mind old icon new outline, just for consistency's sake 01:34:25 sorry 01:34:54 i considered holding back until they were all done but it seemed like it would be a nightmare to coordinate, since multiple people are working on them 01:35:50 a more realistic estimate is "the end of summer" 01:36:03 so if you hold out that long we'll have all-new icons 01:36:49 maybe I could go through and add outline to everything without modifying actual icon 01:38:08 you could do that; we'd probably be overwriting them soon afterwards but it might make things look better in the interim 01:38:47 if i were you i'd just make some new ones; they don't take that long 01:39:32 the way i've been doing it is to pick a school and do most/all of them in a run 01:41:34 (where apparently one god counts as a school) 01:43:31 in any case, any help is appreciated 01:46:32 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:50:15 what format are the images in? 01:50:42 png 01:51:47 if you want to look at them, they're in rltiles/gui/spells in your crawl folder 01:51:48 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:52:15 ...i think, maybe if you used an installer they aren't 01:53:49 -!- Krymise has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I would say you are -starting- to show an anti-me bias, but no. it's more it's turning from a bias to complete discrimatory policy. 02:28:10 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:29:58 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:31:55 -!- Guest62734 is now known as SwissStopwatch 02:33:55 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:34:39 smae? 02:39:22 Bcadren: i realize you're looking for help, and this might seem like a viable place to do so, but ##crawl-dev has a specific topic and we try to keep off-topic stuff to a minimum 02:40:16 asking about it once or twice would probably have been fine, but at some point somebody's going to ask you to try someplace else 02:40:21 ...which they have 02:40:39 ontoclasm it was twice and they were half an hour apart. 02:41:05 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:41:08 correction, an hour and a half apart. 02:44:35 well, now said off-topic thing has worn out its welcome, and that's all there is to it 02:45:31 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46:47 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:00 any tips on deciphering crashlogs? http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/dev/morgue/dbrotest/crash-dbrotest-20140527-073347.txt 02:47:24 I was trying to add a 'cleave-like' effect 02:47:28 johnstein: Do you know what a stack trace is? 02:47:32 barely 02:47:33 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:43 I've used strace a couple times but I'm not good at it 02:48:09 https://github.com/jmbjr/dbro/commit/5862a1074266ecf552b58da62868100ebd6d6877 02:49:25 why is that commit squashed with new_nemelex commits :D 02:49:43 I wizmode a bunch of rats. I quaff my potion of grog, suddenly all the rats are fighting each other (dunno why yet). and I try to swing at the rats. I was trying to make it so Intox would have a percentage chance to cleave 02:49:50 because it has DUR_FORTITUDE :) 02:50:17 johnstein: Ah. Still, not squashing those commits would probably be best. :D 02:50:24 it's an integration branch 02:50:31 -!- Nobuharu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:36 look at pot_grog_ds on github 02:50:39 that's my feature branch 02:50:44 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:45 but I did squash it into there :/ 02:50:55 since I got tired of adding it back everytime 02:51:04 I guess I could have rebased 02:51:38 (before I would just cherry pick a couple of the commits to add Fortitude 02:51:41 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:52:26 but I was worried that maybe I forgot something in the rebasing, so I just merged it all in just to make sure I didn't screw it up. 02:53:29 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:53:31 Hmm, it gets easier as you learn your way around git. 02:54:21 -!- Kittykai has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:39 definitely 02:54:43 johnstein: Potion of grog? 02:54:48 I need to learn rerere 02:55:04 based kinda sorta on one of the tavern threads talking about potions 02:55:13 maybe 'potion of intoxication' 02:55:14 I'm going to guess the problem is that I don't see a declaration of the number of monsters you can cleave with? Axes use differant numbers IIRC 02:55:21 ah ok 02:55:51 thought it was always 8 02:56:31 %git :/c876910 02:56:32 07elliptic02 * 0.15-a0-476-g167b67a: Remove more instances where directing a cleave at empty space is optimal. 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 11+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=167b67a7dc8d 02:56:37 oh hell 02:56:43 %git :/c876910 02:56:43 07elliptic02 * 0.15-a0-476-g167b67a: Remove more instances where directing a cleave at empty space is optimal. 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 11+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=167b67a7dc8d 02:56:48 bloody hell 02:57:25 %git c876910 02:57:25 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-337-gc876910: Make cleave hit 8 squares instead of 7 10(4 weeks ago, 3 files, 11+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c876910be4f3 02:57:38 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:58:08 Hmm, maybe I'm wrong. 02:58:15 I haven't played Axes in a while. 03:00:01 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:02:26 -!- Kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:15:34 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 03:18:57 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:21:42 What's the array size used by dungeon generation? 256x256 2D? 03:25:12 -!- ProzacElf has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:30:38 -!- ontoclasm1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:31:48 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:32:41 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:34:15 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:44:32 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:45:05 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:45:38 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:13 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47:27 -!- Swoosh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:49:27 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:43 -!- alefury has quit [] 03:50:05 -!- palacebeast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:50:30 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:30 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:53:49 -!- NotKintak has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:57:21 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:00:14 Hmm, that slime vault with the corroded equipment is outdate. 04:00:21 outdated. 04:03:14 hah 04:03:15 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [] 04:03:34 slime vault == slime entry vault. 04:03:43 Although I imagine more than one vault used that trick. 04:03:48 !source slime.des 04:03:48 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/slime.des;hb=HEAD 04:07:49 Hmm, looks like it's just nicolae_slime_entry_corroded_items 04:12:18 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 04:16:58 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:17:01 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:21 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:27:25 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:30:40 Bcadren: since you still seem to not get it: repeatedly pasting completely non-crawl-related stuff into both here and ##crawl is spamming 04:31:09 and blaming someone else for your behaviour and complaining about being discriminated against when told to stop spamming is obnoxious 04:31:30 so stop it or leave the channel or be kicked from the channel 04:33:30 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:51 -!- scummos^ has quit [Client Quit] 04:37:52 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:38:18 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-1066-gb21ac4c: Remove an outdated slime entry vault 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b21ac4cb88ca 04:43:07 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:47:48 -!- WildSam has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:48:34 -!- vible has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:49:10 -!- EuphCrawl is now known as Euph0ria 04:52:44 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:54:50 -!- vible has joined ##crawl-dev 05:01:44 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:04:32 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:05:39 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:06:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:09:59 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:19:46 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:20:13 -!- FVG_ is now known as boozy 05:21:55 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:23:59 -!- StahL has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:25:54 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:28:09 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:44 -!- StahLGamma has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:30:47 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 05:30:54 -!- notcluie is now known as notclvie 05:31:07 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:31:28 -!- notclvie is now known as notcluie 05:32:25 -!- gammafunk has quit [Client Quit] 05:34:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:40:28 MarvinPA (L27 NaEE) (Lair:2) 05:42:30 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:44:29 gammafunk: if you edit crawl_manual.reST it'll just get overwritten whenever someone syncs the manual from the wiki next 05:44:49 MarvinPA: sorry, I edited that stupidly, without know how it works 05:45:00 the devwiki page is the definitive version, it's kinda weird 05:45:11 can you give me the url? 05:45:38 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:manual:rest 05:45:39 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:41 thanks 05:45:47 i just did the weight changes there already though :P 05:46:13 well, double thanks then 05:46:17 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:46:48 basically you edit that page and then do "make rest" and commit the results of that in order to sync it 05:47:15 and then there's some mysterious way to generate html/pdf/whatever versions of the manual from the rest file that i have no idea how to do 05:47:18 heh, make target and everything, nice 05:56:11 -!- Kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:56:28 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:57:00 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:57:07 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:03:06 -!- markus-1189 has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 06:05:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:03 -!- ontoclasm1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:09:56 %git 03d1923a542 06:09:57 07by02 * 0.6.0-a1-1089-g03d1923: Remove options target_oos and target_los_first. 10(4 years, 6 months ago, 5 files, 7+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=03d1923a5426 06:10:08 there's a reference to those options in the manual 06:10:15 beautiful 06:19:33 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:20:16 -!- Blomdor has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:21:21 'x' lookaround that moves out of LOS? sounds fun 06:23:04 it's just how it works currently i think 06:23:24 as in you can xv stuff that's on the screen but behind a wall, or whatever 06:23:34 ah, withing main view, I get it 06:24:38 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-1067-g3f6e43b: Sync manual from wiki 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 16+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3f6e43b74e5e 06:24:43 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 06:25:01 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:28:01 -!- StahLGamma has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:29:19 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:44 Suck behind tree after entering teleportation trap by domse 06:29:49 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:05 wow, that sucks 06:30:37 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:30:48 -!- Ankalagon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33:00 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33:12 -!- StahLGamma has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:33:57 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:13 -!- scummos^ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34:39 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:23 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:36:23 -!- jeanjacques_ is now known as jeanjacques 06:39:51 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:40:45 ??fuit 06:40:46 I don't have a page labeled fuit in my learndb. Did you mean: fruit, quit. 06:40:47 ??fruit 06:40:47 food[2/4]: Sultana is 70. Grape is 100. Strawberry is 200. Lychee/choko/rambutan is 600. Apricot/pear/apple is 700. Banana/lemon/orange is 1000. Cheese/sausage is 1200. Beef jerky/pizza/snozzcumber is 1500. Porridge is 6040. In 0.15+, fruit is now condensed into one generic "fruit" item (worth 250 nutrition). 06:40:55 wheals: K - 94 fruits 06:41:04 uh oh 06:41:08 time to start a fedhas game 06:41:12 I'm at lair:6 btw 06:41:16 9k turns 06:41:40 where did you find them all 06:41:41 !calc 94 / 16 06:41:42 5 06:41:53 not that much in terms of rations 06:42:15 wheals: I got one fruit vault in lair 06:42:25 aside from that just random I think 06:42:30 dang 06:42:48 yeah we might need to reconsider the fruit distribution 06:43:04 nutrition-wise it's not terribly much 06:43:08 but for fedhas 06:43:18 of course I also have 18 rations 06:43:31 but I don't think the frequency of rations has increased, has it? 06:43:44 18 is rather high, but not unheard of at only 9k 06:44:26 "fruit" being roughly equivalent to old banana or apple or somewhere in between those two might be better? 06:45:02 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 06:45:42 oh, fruit is one turn to eat as well 06:45:43 didn't realize 06:46:46 meat rations are slightly more common 06:46:47 high nutrition per piece of food is also better interface if you are actually eating it as opposed to fedhasing it 06:46:55 Yeah with all those fruit types, I really have no idea what a typical fedhas game would see in terms of pieces of fruit 06:47:19 like 150 maybe, from what I can remember of my one fedhas win 06:47:56 I guess one problem, if it is a problem, is that royal jelly is 1k nutrition and takes 2 turns to eat 06:48:12 it's the same as honeycomb 06:48:18 though it is more common outside vaults now 06:48:20 yeah, that's what old honeycomb was 06:48:42 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:50 so if we make fruit have e.g. 750, it's kind of strictly better than royal jelly 06:48:53 since it's one turn 06:49:07 well not strictly better, but it's better 06:49:47 weren't, say, snozzcumbers already 1500 nutrition and one turn? 06:50:03 yeah, old fruit covered a range up to 1500 with snozz 06:50:05 (royal jelly probably needs a buff anyway) 06:52:36 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:54:17 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:55:05