00:01:24 level 1: one or two turns (coinflip). level 2: two turns. level 3: two or three turns (coinflip) 00:02:04 Was just going to add a turn or half turn per level. 00:02:06 haha, long time to read a scroll 00:02:08 that's pretty comical 00:02:22 yeah, my suggestion was half-turn per level 00:02:29 but phrased more verbosely 00:02:30 -!- somebody has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:02:35 gammafunk: similarly dangerous, less annoying! 00:02:39 s/annoying/infuriating 00:02:45 PleasingFungus: and also with more variance. 00:02:48 ...yeah I guess it could work 00:02:53 still damn annoying 00:02:56 Which is the most dangerous thing about the mutation currently is varaiance. 00:03:15 reaverb: oh, you're saying literally make it take 1.5 aum always 00:03:22 is that the right unit? w/e 00:03:23 PleasingFungus: Yes. 00:03:29 except with haste, when it'd take 7 or 8 00:03:32 next up: slow quaff 00:03:34 I'm saying literally. that's the wrong unit. 00:03:35 or with slow, when it'd be etc etc 00:03:41 The unit is aut. 00:03:48 I aut have known that already :( 00:03:53 ??aut 00:03:54 aut[1/1]: Arbitrary unit of time. 00:03:57 gammafunk: savor every drop! 00:03:58 ??trun 00:03:59 I don't have a page labeled trun in my learndb. Did you mean: trunk, turn, running. 00:04:02 ??turn 00:04:02 turn[1/1]: different arbitrary unit of time 00:04:04 tasty potions 3 00:04:17 Is a turn normally 1 aut or 10. (I suspect 10) 00:04:24 10 aut 00:04:27 An average action, i.e. turn, is 10 aut. 00:04:32 -!- anidude has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:33 it's BASELINE_DELAY 00:04:36 or whatever that is 00:04:36 Grunt: Thank you. 00:04:38 A turn is not necessarily 10 aut, though. 00:05:10 Grunt: I was just looking for the order of magnititude to implement blurry vision causing slower scroll read instead of random failure. 00:05:15 My turns are always 10 aut 00:05:15 So 10 aut is very helpful. 00:05:53 -!- mee is now known as Guest76953 00:06:08 +5 aut/level (pre haste/slow) sounds fine to me 00:06:26 -!- GummyVite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:06:38 yeah it's fine either randomised or not; the key thing to fix is the annoying "do it again" aspect 00:06:44 Hmm, maybe should make it +10 aut/level and then nerf it depending on how much people complain about it. 00:06:54 or just increase the weight temporarily. 00:07:09 well for reference, eating a ration is 4 turns 00:07:15 cutting a corpse is 5 turns iirc 00:07:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:07:25 eating smaller food is 2 turns 00:07:36 the odd thing about time is that you still have the same amount of time to teleport, it just means you can't don anything else for an extra 5 aut. 00:07:45 Err, actually maybe that's wrong. 00:07:49 I'd have to check. 00:08:08 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-962-g5dbbf13 (34) 00:08:14 add .72 aut each turn obivously. 00:08:15 hrm? no the teleport duration would start counting from the completion of that action 00:08:25 gammafunk: Ok, it's wrong. 00:08:26 oops. 00:08:43 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:48 or at least it should! I've never checked to be sure 00:09:01 * gammafunk teleports Grunt 00:09:14 I guess I'll just use 5 aut. 00:09:20 * Grunt hits gammafunk with a glowing quick blade!!! gammafunk convulses!!! 00:10:39 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:11:29 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:12:39 -!- AtomikKrab has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:12:47 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 00:12:51 Hmm, we use player_mutation_level() vs. you.mutation[] pretty inconsistantly. 00:12:58 Any perferance? 00:13:53 -!- Eonwe1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:08 probably the not-writable one 00:18:24 assuming you.mutation[] is writable 00:18:43 Yes, that would probably be a good idea. 00:18:53 I guess make it you.mutation_level() ? 00:19:02 I'm not fully clear when to methodize and when not to 00:19:06 both require player.h 00:19:09 *both would 00:19:39 gammafunk: Ideally you.mutation[] would be a private member. 00:19:45 maybe with a setter outside for tags.cc 00:19:50 and ng-setup.cc 00:19:51 yeah, sadly we don't do much private data 00:20:00 I asked |amethyst about this, and his concern was too much additional requirements for player.h 00:20:17 Hmm? What do you mean "additional requirements" 00:20:20 but I think anything touching you needs player.h anyhow 00:20:27 as in more files would depend on it 00:20:40 Xen (L10 DDFi) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D (Sprint)) 00:20:51 but maybe he meant something else; I don't see why all those player_* functions aren't methods 00:21:01 The problem there is that player{} is a god object. 00:21:22 yeah, probably you'd have to compartmentalize it much more 00:21:30 !crash Xen 00:21:31 No milestones for Xen (crash). 00:21:41 oh it's sprint 00:21:44 !crash Xen game=sprint 00:21:45 1. Xen, XL10 DDFi, T:611 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Xen/crash-Xen-20140522-052037.txt 00:21:46 !crash sprint Xen 00:21:47 No keyword 'Xen' 00:22:24 !crash Xen sprint 00:22:25 1. Xen, XL10 DDFi, T:611 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Xen/crash-Xen-20140522-052037.txt 00:22:33 ah, that works too 00:22:39 !kw sprint 00:22:39 Built-in: sprint => game=sprint 00:23:05 Hmm, is there a way we can talk to Xen? I want to know what type of food he tried to eat. 00:23:08 oh, food value; save compat 00:23:18 it's not in the log I take it 00:24:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:49 hrm, the honeycomb/ambrosia would have been removed from inventory, I'd imagine 00:24:58 gammafunk: Converted to royal jellies. 00:25:37 similar to how |amethyst converted the Book of War Chants to Book of Battle. 00:28:30 Hmm, I can't find the bug here. 00:29:04 -!- somebody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:35 BATTLEBOOK 00:33:49 TRAUMATOME wait have I done this before 00:33:49 Hmm, how much feedback do I need to give for blurry vision make scroll reading take longer. 00:34:11 very good question. maybe none 00:34:15 beyond the aut thing 00:34:19 I explictly mentioned the effect in the "A" screen. (Might be bad because it also effects Traps?) but I don't want to spam people with messages. 00:34:31 ...also effects Traps? 00:34:44 Pleasingfungus: Any level of blurry vision disables trap detection. 00:34:45 oh, reduces trap find chance 00:34:47 huh 00:34:52 does that need to be a thing 00:35:21 PleasingFungus: I was thinking of spinning it off into it's own mutation. It's not really a interesting effect though. 00:35:27 yeah 00:35:33 I definetly does not need to be bundled with blurry. 00:35:38 honestly I'd just drop it for now (in a separate commit, probably) 00:38:58 ...btw, I defeated an OCS earlier. 00:39:09 Random thought: Traps are just really really rare hell effects outside hell. 00:39:26 Grunt: but what you really defeated... was your own doubt 00:39:42 nicolae-: and the doubt of many other players :) 00:40:00 this is ##crawl-dev i assumed you all didn't care about players 00:40:03 I defeated both new statues on my spen 00:40:18 just went invisible and whacked them, I think withthe help of shadow creatures 00:40:37 that vault in zot that places both near downstairs 00:40:51 at first I thought the silver statue was an ice statue, then I looked more carefully at the color 00:42:58 -!- GoAwayJelly has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:44:38 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 00:45:59 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:47:13 Firebatgyro (L13 DsWn) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lair:7) 00:47:24 Firebatgyro (L13 DsWn) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lair:7) 00:48:07 Oh, not a sprint. 00:48:18 &watch Firebatgyro 00:48:20 %watch Firebatgyro 00:48:20 Watch Firebatgyro at: https://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-Firebatgyro 00:49:07 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:49:50 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:50:56 Antem (L27 VSMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Depths:5) 00:51:18 Antem (L27 VSMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Depths:5) 00:51:27 -!- Orfax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:51:28 Antem (L27 VSMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Depths:5) 00:51:32 &watch Antem 00:51:33 %watch Antem 00:51:33 Watch Antem at: https://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-Antem 00:51:41 Antem (L27 VSMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Depths:5) 00:52:23 BirdoPrey (L6 DrTm) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:4) 00:52:30 BirdoPrey (L6 DrTm) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:4) 00:52:34 BirdoPrey (L6 DrTm) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:4) 00:52:40 BirdoPrey (L6 DrTm) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:4) 00:52:53 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:53:01 beware the food cost 00:53:26 People are saying it's things like bread or meat rations. 00:53:56 Kurtz (L12 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:9) 00:54:09 Kurtz (L12 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:9) 00:54:23 Kurtz (L12 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:9) 00:54:36 -!- Kittykai has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:47 Kurtz (L12 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:9) 00:55:12 Kurtz (L12 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:9) 00:56:22 &watch Kurtz 00:56:23 %watch Kurtz 00:56:23 Watch Kurtz at: https://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-Kurtz 00:56:47 -!- Kittykai has quit [Client Quit] 00:57:26 Hmm, it appears to trigger on eating a meat ration. 00:59:11 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:01:03 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:04:08 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:05:21 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:06:10 'oops' 01:06:13 Which is significant because Meat rations are the first enum. 01:06:48 I didn't change any enums so I probably isn't me. wheals's change looks safe too though. 01:06:56 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 01:07:23 My next test would be to check if you can eat a breat ration w/ carnivroe 3 01:08:07 Is there a "delay rebuilds for other servers until we fixe this bug" command? 01:10:18 Kurtz (L12 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lair:1) 01:10:22 Hmm, double odd, the enums aren't bumped. 01:10:31 &wath Krutz 01:11:27 -!- home_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:11:55 doctordoom (L7 DsFE) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:4) 01:11:56 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:12:28 Antem (L27 VSMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Tomb:2) 01:12:39 -!- MgDark_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 01:13:00 -!- Senjai has quit [Changing host] 01:13:25 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:15:16 !version cszo 01:15:18 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:15:25 !version cao 01:15:25 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:16:09 !version cbro 01:16:09 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:16:09 ??servers 01:16:09 servers[1/1]: See {cao}, {cszo}, {cbro} (US) or {cdo}, {clan} (EU), or {ckr} (Asia-Pacific). Also http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 01:16:11 !version cdo 01:16:11 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:16:14 !version clan 01:16:15 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:16:19 !version ckr 01:16:19 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 01:16:42 doctordoom (L7 DsFE) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:5) 01:16:49 &watch doctordoom 01:16:50 %watch doctordoom 01:16:50 Watch doctordoom at: https://crawl.s-z.org/#watch-doctordoom 01:17:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140518030203]] 01:18:36 -!- LarsH_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:20:25 Ok, runnnig git bisect. 01:23:37 -!- netkitten|2 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:27:14 -!- Eonwe1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:28:27 Kurtz (L14 FoMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lab) 01:28:47 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 01:29:37 -!- netkitten_ is now known as netkitten 01:29:41 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 01:35:49 -!- mngrif1 is now known as mngrif 01:36:02 -!- omnirizo1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:37:41 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:38:00 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:38:09 -!- Moonsilence_de has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:38:11 Xen (L19 DDFi) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D (Sprint)) 01:39:20 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:33 Basil: at first I think your login of ~Mint@ meant that you were running linux Mint, but then I realized who you are 01:43:39 s/think/thought/ 01:43:57 although I wouldn't be surprised at all if you were running Mint 01:44:21 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:45:44 gammafunk: Any idea how to hunt down this crash? 01:45:54 reaverb: I just recreated the crash 01:46:10 Yes you eat a meat ration. 01:46:10 but a glance at the commits didn't pull up anything wrong, so let me look a bit 01:46:35 I'm bisecting, but compiling takes forever on my computer. 01:46:45 And a lot of those recent commits editted enum.h 01:47:11 Been bisecting of half an hour already. 01:48:03 Hmm, looks like it was either removing royal jellies or removing Ambroisa 01:51:05 I'm going to guess you can't just remove stuff from Food_Props[] ? There would be aboslutely no way to know that, though. 01:53:17 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:55:03 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:55:13 oh 01:55:15 yes 01:55:21 I think that's the problem if you look at how 01:55:28 the Food_index is initialized 01:56:08 Oh, hmm. 01:56:21 it's initialized by iterating over num foods and using ids from food prop 01:56:36 That is the stupidest lack of a comment I've ever seens. 01:56:59 It's particularly hilarious how they put it just below where somebody modifiying that would be reading. 01:57:17 In any case, still not sure why it crashes on meat rations specifically. 01:57:18 probably you just need a FOOD_UNUSED prop entry 01:57:33 and FOOD_AMB 01:57:44 I think because the index initialization is getting all borked 01:57:56 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:01 the food_prop 01:58:03 is too small 01:59:39 reaverb: yeah, if I make food prop entries 01:59:45 for FOOD_UNUSED and FOOD_AMBROSIA 01:59:49 gammafunk: It doesn't crash. 01:59:57 I get no crash 02:00:03 Put in #ifdef TAG_MAJOR_VERSION and push. 02:00:11 And then help me rebuild all the servers. 02:00:16 I can't sorry :) 02:00:25 gammafunk: Really, why? 02:00:28 I'm literally in the middle of making a crappy powerpoint 02:00:31 but you distracted me! 02:00:41 gammafunk: Why do you need to make a powerpoint? 02:00:42 ??literally 02:00:42 literally[1/10]: (7:12:27 PM) Wensley: guys we have literally filled three fifths of my irc log with bacon 02:00:50 lol 02:00:57 reaverb: that line of questioning won't help!!! 02:01:16 -!- Patashu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:01:30 gammafunk: why not set your silly powerpoint aside and have some fun with crawl development 02:01:43 the good news is it's not a save corruption 02:01:54 Basil: you should help, pennance for your first day! 02:02:03 I "literally" cannot compile crawl 02:02:10 Basil: Why not? 02:02:29 You can probably do it faster than the 5-8 minutes it takes me. 02:02:30 The laptop I'm borrowing tends to lock up 02:02:35 Basil: Hmm. 02:02:37 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 02:03:19 ??lamest_excuses 02:03:19 I don't have a page labeled lamest_excuses in my learndb. 02:05:45 gammafunk: So what's the powerpoint about? 02:06:15 -!- Eonwe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:32 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:07:02 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:08:37 Hmm, I actually might not have admin rights on a couple of the servers 02:08:39 ??rebuild 02:08:40 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://rl.heh.fi/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug Grunt, |amethyst, or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 02:09:19 Well at this rate I might need to pad it with slides about my latest HEIE or something 02:10:01 * Did not finished the asigned analysis * Results inconclusive * On the other hand I have an elf in Swamp right now 02:10:30 gammafunk: Heh, I don't want to distrub you if it's serious. 02:10:45 I just seems if it was serious you'd just close the chat window. 02:11:19 -!- palacebeast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:11:30 I'm sure that's what my therapist will tell me 02:11:38 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:07 duckroller (L12 TrMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lair:3) 02:14:18 duckroller (L12 TrMo) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lair:3) 02:18:03 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-963-gb693d2a: Fix a crash 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b693d2abafec 02:18:05 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-962-g5dbbf13 (34) 02:18:05 Ha, it updated to the version with the crash. 02:19:48 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-963-gb693d2a (34) 02:21:09 reaverb: one thing you could have done is set FOOD_AMBROSIA to FOOD_UNUSED in the enum def to avoid making the second entry, not that it really matters 02:21:34 gammafunk: Except that would have messed up the enum orders? 02:21:38 second entry in the prop array 02:22:00 no, it would still have an enum value, it would just share the value with FOOD_UNUSED 02:22:10 I can also do CAO and CBRO, I can't rebuild any other server 02:22:15 NUM_FOOD would still exist 02:22:27 hrm, which are left? 02:22:36 gammafunk: But the FOOD_ numbers are stored in the save file. 02:22:55 hrm 02:22:57 It's like monsters enums. 02:23:10 yeah, you're right 02:23:17 it's a shame 02:23:19 what a silly situation anyhow 02:23:30 tasonir (L5 OpEE) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (D:4) 02:23:38 I guess probably we shouldn't have renamed honeycomb to unused 02:23:52 since we still have to have ambrosia 02:23:57 Hmm, what does this error message mean: 02:24:04 Could not lock /home/crawl-dev/dgamelaunch-config/locks/crawl-update.lock: someone is already updating the crawl build 02:24:05 reaverb: do you need any other rebuilds? 02:24:33 ah, well it would imply what it says; I just hope a rebuild didn't stall or something 02:24:39 did you maybe refresh the page accidentally? 02:24:40 gammafunk: Besides CLAN, CDO, and CKR? 02:24:48 gamamfunk: Yes I refereshed by accident. 02:25:31 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 02:25:36 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-963-gb693d2a (34) 02:25:37 yeah I'm just asking if there are any I could try 02:25:45 assuming miraculously I have access and you don't 02:26:05 so you don't have clan access? 02:26:19 -!- lanbox has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:26:47 No I don't. 02:26:57 I bet I just never had an account to promote. 02:27:02 reaverb: ok, I can get to that one; want me to rebuild it? 02:27:08 I don't know why we have to log into 7 differant places to update the servers. There should be just one. 02:27:11 gammafunk: Yes. 02:27:17 !version clan 02:27:17 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 02:27:34 ok, rebuilding 02:27:43 yeah the reason is those all are their own apaches 02:28:10 we could have unified logins I guess...not even sure where the credentials come from 02:28:13 mantis? 02:28:36 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:28:36 gammafunk: Mantis would work. 02:28:38 -!- Stendarr_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:29:03 Who runs Clan? I just made an account they should promote. 02:29:05 well, I'm saying maybe they share the encrypted login info already; not sure how it knew my password, for instance 02:29:09 ??clan 02:29:09 clan[1/3]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/ or crawl.lantea.net, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.13 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 02:29:14 ??clan[2 02:29:15 clan[2/3]: Hosted by Aleksi, maintained by TZer0 02:29:20 good old TZer0 02:29:24 he just loves getting messages 02:30:17 !tell TZer0 Just made an account (reaver) on CLAN which should be promoted to admin. (So I can do rebuilds). Thank you! 02:30:17 reaverb: OK, I'll let tzer0 know. 02:30:39 !version cao 02:30:39 trunk: 0.15-a0-943-ge03bf5a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 02:31:06 hmm, !version should probably use Sequell instead of Henzell. 02:31:23 really? 02:31:24 ??bots 02:31:24 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 02:31:52 gammafunk: Spammy bots should be seperate from information bots. That's why the learndb was moved to Sequell from Henzell. 02:31:58 @version cao 02:32:27 It's so people can /ignore Henzell without missing out. 02:32:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-963-gb693d2a (34) 02:32:54 Ok, all the rebuilds are done. 02:32:56 well, I think the problem is 02:33:02 that henzell responds to ! 02:33:06 for commands it knows 02:33:10 and all bots have to know version 02:33:29 aha 02:33:29 do this 02:33:29 elbog (L14 MiFi) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Lair:1) 02:33:29 &version cao 02:33:59 !lg 02:33:59 1409. gammafunk the Magician (L5 HEIE), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3 on 2014-05-21 15:25:37, with 246 points after 1794 turns and 0:10:17. 02:33:59 -!- Eonwe3 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:59 huh 02:33:59 Roarke (L18 DsVM) ASSERT(food_value > 0) in 'food.cc' at line 1740 failed. (Abyss:2) 02:33:59 &version 02:34:08 oh sequell doesn't know version at all I guess 02:34:11 since it's sequell 02:34:16 Also Sequell has tons of ! commands. 02:34:17 that could be made a command though 02:34:19 !banish gammafunk 02:34:20 reaverb casts a spell. gammafunk is devoured by a tear in reality! 02:34:24 yes but 02:34:31 it only recognizes some, right? 02:34:42 what I'm saying is that you'd have to use like &version 02:34:49 otherwise henzell will always respond 02:34:58 but sequell needs aversion command thingy first 02:35:10 gammafunk: Well then disable Henzell responding. 02:35:15 @version 02:35:31 @version cao 02:35:31 no it needs to respond; just use e.g. &version with a sequell command is the answer 02:35:50 CDO is weird 02:35:54 $version 02:35:55 trunk: 0.15-a0-948-g8e04fe2; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.4 02:35:56 @watch gammafunk 02:36:02 gammafunk: Oh, hmm. 02:36:49 !cmd &dump 02:36:49 Command: &dump => !lm ${1:-.} fmt:"\$(=morgue_link ${2:-${src}} \$(if \$(match -a ${3:-${cv}}) trunk ${3:-${cv}}))/${name}/${name}.txt" stub:"No milestones for $(name_fixup ${1:-${user}})." 02:37:20 !cmd =morgue_link 02:37:21 Command: =morgue_link => .echo $(if (= $1 cao) http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata (if (= $1 cszo) http://dobrazupa.org/morgue (if (= $1 clan) http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue (if (= $1 rhf) http://rl.heh.fi/morgue (if (= $1 cdo) http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/${2:-trunk} (if (= $1 cbro) http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue (if (= $1 ckr) http://kr.dobrazupa.org/morgue/${2:-trunk} unknown))))... 02:37:25 aha 02:37:28 that's how you'd do it 02:37:44 gammafunk: I'm way to tired to decode Sequellese right now. 02:37:45 -!- randomizr has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:38:04 !learn add gammafunk TODO: sequell version command 02:38:05 gammafunk[6/6]: TODO: sequell version command 02:38:43 -!- Euph0ria has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:53 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:40:05 ??bots 02:40:06 bots[1/3]: Bots that can be pm'd: announcement bots: Henzell (CAO, !), Gretell (CDO, @), Sizzell (CSZO, %), Lantell (CLAN, $), Rotatell (CBRO, ^); others: Varmin, Cheibriados (%), and Sequell (! ?? & and others) 02:42:44 !cmd &version .echo $(if (= $1 cao) !version (if (= $1 cszo) %version (if (= $1 clan) $version (if (= $1 cdo) @version (if (= $1 cbro) ^version unknown))))) 02:42:45 Defined command: &version => .echo $(if (= $1 cao) !version (if (= $1 cszo) %version (if (= $1 clan) $version (if (= $1 cdo) @version (if (= $1 cbro) ^version unknown))))) 02:42:51 &version cao 02:42:52 !version 02:42:52 trunk: 0.15-a0-963-gb693d2a; 0.14: 0.14.1-9-g552248a; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 02:43:06 \o/ 02:43:12 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-963-gb693d2a (34) 02:43:27 too bad it's not very useful 02:43:45 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:43:48 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:43:54 -!- ZanniqlcKzxkq is now known as Zannick 02:51:14 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-964-g9453706: Make blurry vision mut cause scroll reading to take more time. 10(2 hours ago, 3 files, 13+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94537065d378 02:51:14 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-965-g65f7841: Remove Blurry Vision's effect on trap detection 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=65f78419b7e1 02:51:16 Ideally it would have Sequell state the information, so you can ignore the other bots. 02:51:16 Better than nothing though. 02:51:16 yeah it doesn't really solve the problem, oh well 02:51:16 -!- Ankalagon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:51:16 Hmm, I just pushed those blurry vision commits, but even chei poke seems to not prod chei into showing them. 02:51:16 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:52:25 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 02:52:25 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 02:52:26 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 03:12:18 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:34 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 03:25:51 I think I'll just remove the who "no brand == vorpal" thing from ?rebrand weapon now. 03:26:35 Eh, I'll wait until more people are up. 03:31:02 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:34:59 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:48 -!- category has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:37:33 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:39:09 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:40:43 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:40:43 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:41:49 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:42:29 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:16 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:45:50 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:48:06 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:58:47 -!- alefury has quit [] 04:02:46 -!- magicpoints has joined ##crawl-dev 04:08:37 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:09:44 Hey, there's a typo in the blurry vision change 04:09:59 -!- bonghitz_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10:29 The description for the second tier of the mutation says "You take a longer to read" 04:14:18 yeah, the typo is clear even in the commit 04:21:57 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 04:27:27 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:29:13 -!- crate_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:29 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:31:49 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:34:24 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:37:28 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:37:31 -!- imantor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:38:05 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:41:58 -!- Yll has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:43:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:44:36 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:51:01 -!- Kramin has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:51:17 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:53:16 04:10 < magicpoints> The description for the second tier of the mutation says "You take a longer to read" 04:53:23 !tell reaverb < magicpoints> The description for the second tier of the mutation says "You take a longer to read" 04:53:24 gammafunk: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 04:53:39 !tell reaverb lurn 2 grammor 04:53:40 gammafunk: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 04:59:30 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 05:07:53 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:19:18 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:27:49 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:34:17 -!- magicpoints has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:39:48 -!- SirSamVimes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:40:41 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 05:41:48 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:15 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 05:45:25 -!- surprisetrex has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:45:38 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:46:07 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:28 -!- NearlyNeutral has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:47:31 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:50:18 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:50:52 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Want to be different? 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Anywhere.] 08:15:23 -!- Eonwe3 is now known as Eonwe1 08:16:21 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:18:45 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19:22 fyi: Line 610 of mutation-data.h has a typo: “You take a longer…”. 08:19:27 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 08:19:48 -!- geedmat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:20:17 -!- Eonwe1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:21:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:57 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:23:32 it says '"Your vision is quite blurry.",' for me 08:24:19 <|amethyst> wheals: you're out of date 08:24:24 <|amethyst> %git 9453706 08:24:57 07reaverb02 * 0.15-a0-964-g9453706: Make blurry vision mut cause scroll reading to take more time. 10(8 hours ago, 3 files, 13+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=94537065d378 08:24:57 i pulled yesterday, i guess my rss feed is broken 08:25:01 since it didn't tell me enything happened last night 08:25:11 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:25:38 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:27:43 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-966-g6408390: Fix a typo (magicpoints, CKyle) 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6408390c0a71 08:27:44 <|amethyst> Blurry 3 sounds a bit mild now 08:27:44 <|amethyst> since there's only a 1/4 increase in reading time from Blurry 2 to Blurry 3 08:27:44 <|amethyst> (previously 2 to 3 approximately doubled the amount of time to read a scroll) 08:29:00 shouldn't those have periods. 08:29:18 -!- geedmat_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:30:44 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-967-gbecff2d: Punctuate (wheals) 10(26 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=becff2d3de3a 08:31:01 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:32:56 |amethyst: yes, I think the duration should be longer 08:32:57 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:38:26 i made some charts for food consolidation, btw 08:38:32 http://pastie.org/9199054 http://pastie.org/9199055 08:38:47 <|amethyst> dpeg: hm... maybe 3? 08:39:17 <|amethyst> dpeg: Under the old system it was 4 tries on average, but you had the advantage of being able to stop between attempts 08:41:00 i should probably send these to crd before someone tries to take away out chokos and pizza 08:41:36 wheals: no time now, would you send the link to c-r-d? (Few additional words needed.) 08:41:47 oh, you already said so :O 08:42:03 |amethyst: yes, 3 sounds like it'd mean something -- always ask elliptic for stuff like this :) 08:42:03 <|amethyst> wheals: you're suggesting making pizza 9 times as common as honey? :) 08:42:13 |amethyst: it's my dream! 08:43:04 i'll add some information about what the numbers mean and what i'm thinking about food ideas 08:43:36 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:31 <|amethyst> wheals: yeah, I don't think I understand "weights are out of 100" 08:45:48 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:46:01 <|amethyst> wheals: since "Incidence" doesn't sum to 100 08:46:52 <|amethyst> seems like it's out of 140? 08:47:15 <|amethyst> (so half of our food, by number of items, is fruit) 08:49:33 I assume you are going to propose a unified fruit item? 08:49:59 (btw, it would even be possible to have different types of fruit on the ground, which all convert to the one "the fruit" in inventory) 08:50:04 with a single fruit item you could use the speech database in the same way that pizza does 08:50:16 for different messages on eating/keeping chokos as a thing etc 08:53:33 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:24 %git 08:54:24 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-967-gbecff2d: Punctuate (wheals) 10(24 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=becff2d3de3a 08:54:25 i was aiming for just three fruits, one small and numerous, one choko-sized and fairly common, and one pretty big and pretty rare 08:54:54 <|amethyst> elliptic: thoughts on the numbers for new blurry? Seems like the increase from 20 aut on Blurry 2 to 25 aut on Blurry 3 isn't so significant 08:54:57 hrm, I've never really understood what the tiny fruits do aside from be annoying 08:55:11 great for fedhas people of course 08:55:59 <|amethyst> gammafunk: grapes and sultanas are the only food that can be eaten in one turn 08:56:05 <|amethyst> (excluding porridge/blood) 08:56:08