00:00:27 ontoclasm: Nice. 00:00:52 wheals: no it's a Goblin 00:00:53 totally different 00:01:37 goblins are OOD if you're on the surface 00:01:43 bloblin the goblin 00:02:29 what's in depth on the surface then 00:02:35 plants? 00:03:03 friendly orbs of fire 00:03:19 'foofs' 00:03:28 it's the sound they make, see 00:04:50 reaverb: i'd prefer if somebody made it so brand icons showed up properly on the ground, but 00:05:06 ontoclasm: Hmm, that's not possible right now? 00:05:11 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:05:41 no, i tried to make it work but couldn't figure out how 00:05:52 some things (e.g. scrolls) show them just fine! 00:05:58 ...but then other things don't 00:06:00 FOOF is also the name of an extremely unstable compound that is known for its ability to light ice on fire. 00:06:32 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:16 Red_Bucket: why are you mentioning Thing I won't Work with/xkcd here? 00:07:35 they brought up foof first 00:07:42 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:21 Can monsters really use acquirement 00:08:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-699-gbfe212c (34) 00:08:38 Red_Bucket: No. 00:08:43 They cannot. 00:09:39 Here's a fun bug: 00:09:52 HilariousDeathArtist had a water elemental in a net next to him standing on the staircase. 00:10:04 It managed to follow him up the stairs despite being in a net. 00:10:10 good 00:10:14 And he can't pick up the net. 00:10:31 well, it can't be much of a net, if it couldn't even stop a water elemental from climbing stairs 00:10:36 also how do you put a water elemental in a net 00:11:02 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:12:04 make the holes tiny 00:12:08 so the surface tension traps it 00:12:16 very carefully 00:12:35 huh. I wonder if paralyzed monsters can use stairs 00:13:08 Probably. 00:13:18 Unless there's a special case, which there probably is. 00:13:19 I thought para is like being asleep or confused in that they don't follow. 00:13:20 downstairs would be easy, really 00:13:23 I can't find anything preventing it, but the relevant code is awful. 00:13:24 orbs of destruction can use stairs 00:13:31 Red_Bucket: that's magical 00:13:48 !source files.cc:975 00:13:48 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/files.cc;hb=HEAD#l975 00:14:03 if anyone wants to follow along (you don't want to follow along) 00:14:21 Ha, special cases for duvessa and dowan 00:14:44 half the damn function is handling those two 00:14:57 Hm. That could be turned into a thing for bands not getting separated. 00:15:43 I don't think so. afaik, bands just have a shared 'leader', who may or may not be alive 00:16:05 you'd have iter across all mons on the level to check if everyone was there 00:16:07 which I guess is doable 00:16:09 but ugly 00:16:33 update: paralyzed monsters don't seem to be able to follow up stairs 00:17:08 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:19:51 yeah, netted mons will usually follow up stairs (seems to depend on terrain), but I've not been able to get any weird broken nets to appear 00:19:54 Would a spell that summons copies of a monster to fight the original just be a more complicated version of an effect we already have 00:20:19 if it's singular copy, it could be a vaguely interesting haunt variant 00:20:26 don't rakshasas do something similar 00:20:32 only mara 00:20:35 sure, but this would be a player spell 00:20:43 My idea actually wasn't just a straight copy, it was a chimeric copy. 00:20:44 No, all rakshasas now. 00:20:50 ??phantom mirror 00:20:50 phantom mirror[1/4]: This spell clones a selected allied creature, randomly swapping the clone and original to disguise which is real and which is fake. 00:20:54 no, they summon copies of guys to fight yuo 00:20:55 *you 00:20:57 not the original 00:21:15 PleasingFungus: Different interperations of "something similar" 00:21:32 ~ 00:21:41 but yes nicoale- probably meant Mara's tick 00:21:46 s/tick/trick/ 00:21:51 I've got the leave soon, btw 00:21:58 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:22:02 you probably don't need to say. you can just leave whenever 00:22:04 Why aren't worms of torment a monster yet 00:22:09 no one's gonna complain if you didn't warn them 00:22:27 PleasingFungus: Yes probably. 00:22:35 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:22:41 fr spider end full of worms of torment 00:23:25 Item meat ration buggily placed in feature at (31, 28) 00:23:27 Monster manticore in rock_wall at (32, 28) [vault: cheibrodos_shoals_roost 00:23:29 (25,25)-(37,39) (13x15)] 00:27:47 manticore worms 00:28:52 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:30:16 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140506030204]] 00:33:33 03reaverb02 07* 0.15-a0-700-g1e7878b: Remove the Boots of the Spider 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1e7878ba8ac5 00:33:35 -!- Whistling_Beard has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:44 rip spider boots 00:36:17 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:38:26 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:57 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:03 -!- rast- is now known as rast 00:47:56 clearly spide boots should have become +8 instead 00:48:11 Death has come for rchandra... 00:49:28 yes, grunt vaults need to be autoannotated with ! 00:50:18 more like !!! 00:50:55 You open the door like a pillowcase!!! 00:53:02 ??large_rock 00:53:02 large rock[1/1]: The deadliest ammo available in Crawl. Ogre, troll, and formicid hunters start with them, and some giants throw them. Low mulch rate, but also very rare. Base damage is 20. Weight is 60 aum. 00:53:15 ??strength 00:53:16 str[1/4]: Strength reduces penalties from wearing body armour; see {aevp}. Strength increases carrying capacity by 21 per point. Has some sort of effect on {launcher damage}. 00:56:18 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:39 !learn edit large_rock s/troll, and formicid/and troll/ 01:00:39 large rock[1/1]: The deadliest ammo available in Crawl. Ogre, and troll hunters start with them, and some giants throw them. Low mulch rate, but also very rare. Base damage is 20. Weight is 60 aum. 01:01:02 !learn edit large_rock s/Ogre, /Ogre / 01:01:02 large rock[1/1]: The deadliest ammo available in Crawl. Ogre and troll hunters start with them, and some giants throw them. Low mulch rate, but also very rare. Base damage is 20. Weight is 60 aum. 01:04:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:12:45 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:13:59 What is your first thought as Nemelex having state-based abilities like in many card games, reader? 01:14:28 my first thought is "what do you mean by state-based abilities" 01:15:01 As in, the abilities currently offered to you are based on the previous ability you used, or on whether you've drawn a card. 01:15:12 Maybe two, or three states total. 01:16:53 hmm 01:16:58 Nivim: sounds like you would just do whatever's necessary to always be in the state you want to be in 01:17:09 Well, Yred still seems alright after you get your good servants 01:17:20 similarly to all the werewolf proposals 01:18:13 so while I might add another slave type it's not a pressing issue. 01:18:53 That said, it would be good if Yredites had finer control over who they took with them at any one time 01:19:07 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:20:16 Is "something like that would not be added today" a viable reason to remove something? 01:21:28 ontoclasm: who says you can control it! 01:21:28 -!- Rjs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:21:50 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22:11 ontoclasm: In other words, the threshold for balance quality on these states would have to be really high-- although, I think there's a decent balancing factor in that changing states would probably always cost at least one card, and that the switch would be happening very often. 01:23:13 ??deck of dungeons 01:23:13 deck of dungeons[1/2]: Cards: {water card}, {vitrification card}, {dowsing card}, {trowel card} (only in legendary), {minefield card}. In 0.13-, was given by Nemelex for jewellery, books, and misc items 01:23:50 -!- Rjs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25:03 i guess it's okay if it costs something real 01:26:50 (A horrible new-nem wrath idea just came to mind; giving monsters the good cards and the ability to use them.) 01:27:24 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 01:28:09 -!- palacebeast has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29:11 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:29:29 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:34 -!- DrKe has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:42 -!- Orfax has quit [] 01:32:50 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! 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ZZZzzz…] 03:51:08 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:51:30 !tell Grunt the ^ screen still lists the old values for Qaz' permanent resist gifts. (describe.cc) 03:51:31 qoala: OK, I'll let grunt know. 03:54:53 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:59:08 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:00:19 -!- asgalath has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:01:32 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:07:07 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:08:57 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:09 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:16:38 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:24:19 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 04:26:43 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 04:30:13 -!- DrKe2 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:08 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:32:41 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:12 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:36:44 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:38:28 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:38:47 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:49 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:41:00 -!- _159 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:43:26 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:47:41 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:50:14 ??trowel 04:50:15 trowel card[1/1]: Trowel cards can produce bailey, bazaar, lab, trove and zig portals. You only get one of each portal per game. 04:50:26 -!- Mateji has quit [Read error: No route to host] 04:55:40 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:57:18 -!- mopl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:00:56 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:07:58 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 05:08:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:12:13 new forum thread: "Please don't remove nemelex" <3 05:12:18 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:12:26 when will they file petitions to the UN? 05:14:24 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:56 dpeg: Random question 05:16:00 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16:02 What reasons are there to KEEP nemelex? 05:16:18 I guess being the one god to support evocations is the big one 05:19:16 First, I am not sure Crawl *needs* a god of evocations. Second, if we want a god of evocations, it should be not about cards. Really, I think cards are the problem more than Nemelex -- it's just that Nemelex makes no sense without cards. 05:19:25 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:19:47 If we remove cards (and hence Nemmy), then we can think about an Evocations gods later on, and call the guy Nemelex Xobeh, if we want. 05:20:14 dpeg: heh, do you want to respond to that thread? I suppose it's best to wait for any further crd discussion 05:20:30 (and more discussion in the thread) 05:20:44 gammafunk: I will definitely reply. I want to give others a chance -- I am a little afraid that my presece shies people away. 05:21:33 I also feel that the game has put a bit too much emphasis on Evocations: Evocations is now good for wands (better than ever), for cards and for the new great miscellaneous items (much better than the old ones). 05:22:06 yeah, I'll wait to respond as well 05:22:11 there's also probably the fact that nemelex is overpowered 05:22:20 Of course someone could come along and design a better evocations god 05:22:20 that's not the issue 05:22:35 Lightli: I think almost all of our gods are overpowered, and I don't mind very much (I mind a little). 05:22:41 oh 05:22:52 Lightli: but that could be changed through nerfing, and is not the real issue, as Sage says. 05:22:57 yeah 05:23:41 gammafunk: Absolutely. But experience has shown that we're much better off to remove something, and then wait for new designs (or make them ourselves) rather than trying to design a replacement. That works very rarely. 05:24:45 yeah, and I do dislike just how overpowered nemelex is when you play to get a lot of decks 05:25:13 it just becomes "spam decks" 05:25:57 Yes. This could be improved upon, but doesn't change the fact that card effects try to replicate the whole Crawl experience: ranged damage, summons, emergency tools etc. 05:26:12 right 05:26:20 yeah 05:26:27 cards are just a more boring version of spells 05:26:54 Losing wonderful flavour twice: first the portable altar, now the Tarot-style cards. Pity that, but what can we do? 05:27:24 also rip tomb 05:28:13 (fr: minitomb evokable that acts like the tomb card, duration depending on evoc: only one use) 05:28:17 Lightli: not sure about "more boring", but providing all of these under the umbrella of a single skill & god seems questionable. It's a bit unfortunate that Haran and I gave no thought to removing Nemelex back in the day (0.3 or so?) -- we were hellbent on improving the god (and we did, imo), and deicide didn't ever occur to us. 05:28:50 Lightli: Tomb of Dorokhloe is an interesting effect. It doesn't work as a spell, but it would work as a consumable. 05:28:51 when did the idea of removing him first pop up 05:29:16 Nobody can say for sure! :) 05:29:46 still, if this actually happens it'll mark the first time a god got removed 05:29:47 I mentioned it once in passing on the tavern. I am sure that some people have considered Nemelex a problematic god all the time. 05:29:59 ??gammafunk[4] 05:29:59 gammafunk[4/4]: The first dev to officially propose deicide. 05:30:04 heh 05:30:12 heh 05:30:22 Badge of honor 05:30:32 how likely do you think Nem removal will go through? 05:30:45 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:51 amongs devs: like a hot knife through butter 05:31:02 among players: about as good as MD removal 05:31:09 oh yes 05:31:23 so he's going to be removed with 90%+ certainty? 05:32:03 Who knows? If a dev speaks up seriously enough in favour of Nemelex, I wouldn't mind keeping the god. Unlike broken spells or monsters, a broken god does not cause major headaches. 05:33:14 yeah, who knows if N7 or someone will just say "hey guyz" and drop a new amazing nem patch that makes us all weep at its beauty 05:33:42 yeah 05:35:14 zipcode is awesome, yes 05:36:05 domestic duties, later 05:37:05 k 05:38:43 also, for an example of the outrage, 4chan is already screaming in hate and rage about the nemelex NERF 05:38:58 Actual removal would probably cause a stroke or two 05:39:25 link? 05:39:34 (washing machine filled and running!) 05:40:42 https://boards.4chan.org/vg/thread/67505525/roguelike-general#p67571812 05:42:17 oh Jesus, these people are so obnoxious 05:42:32 they have replaced me by Chris as their hatred idol 05:43:01 Do you miss the infamy 05:43:21 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:43:27 I think if Nemelex gets removed they may very well quit Crawl forever 05:43:40 And the game would be better off for it 05:43:55 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:59 (or more likely they'll say they quit forever and then go back to playing) 05:44:03 there's no money involved, who cares if some bored American juveniles play Crawl or not? 05:44:11 ^ yes 05:44:46 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 05:48:20 oh, the hilarity 05:57:02 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:25 -!- MiraclePrism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:32 New branch created: webtiles-changes (30 commits) 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-701-gb2665bd: Load Webtiles server config from a JSON file. 10(3 weeks ago, 13 files, 324+ 249-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2665bdd2e27 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-702-g024d1d0: Reload Webtiles server config on SIGUSR1. 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=024d1d0d71c5 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-703-g9a0633e: Webtiles: Refactor login cookie handling. 10(3 weeks ago, 5 files, 84+ 74-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a0633e1034a 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-704-ge69da8d: Save Webtiles login tokens in the user database. 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 87+ 32-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e69da8d0101c 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-705-gb8f6b12: Webtiles: Implement login sessions. 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 78+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b8f6b12facf4 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-706-g82bc674: Fix a Webtiles error message. 10(3 weeks ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=82bc674c1535 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-707-g84de97e: Simplify the Webtiles client.html template a bit. 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 20+ 28-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84de97ef2e0b 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-708-gbc93eed: Webtiles: Reload the page when starting a game or watching somebody. 10(3 weeks ago, 6 files, 85+ 119-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc93eede0954 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-709-g2107e95: Only reload the page when going back to the lobby. 10(3 weeks ago, 2 files, 34+ 17-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2107e9508362 05:58:33 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-710-g5a710a3: Some initial Webtiles template cleanup. 10(3 weeks ago, 3 files, 117+ 111-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a710a3ee3a3 05:58:33 ... and 20 more commits 05:58:59 (sorry for spam) 06:02:02 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:02:46 !tell |amethyst I've got a branch full of changes that will require a server restart and some manual admin intervention... is it possible to run the server from the branch until all servers are updated? 06:02:46 edlothiol: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 06:03:29 !tell |amethyst (things will break if old server.py are combined with new client.js) 06:03:29 edlothiol: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 06:10:30 edlothiol: Super Sache! 06:12:50 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:13:08 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:14:10 dpeg: danke ;) there's not that many openly visible changes in there, but it's a lot of cleanup and refactoring 06:14:25 (also some things that should really have existed long ago, like changing passwords) 06:15:29 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:18:17 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:23:04 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:27:33 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:32 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:34:29 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:40:00 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40:19 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:23 -!- StahlGamma has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:45:15 -!- StahLBeta has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:47:06 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:04 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:23 -!- StahlAlpha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:53:40 -!- MiraclePrism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:32 -!- StahlAlpha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:56:41 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:02:20 -!- StahlAlpha has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:06:17 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 07:09:17 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:10:26 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:26 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 07:10:27 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! 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(D:2) 08:30:07 jike (L1 DEFE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:30:08 Insolent (L11 DsCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:11) 08:30:10 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 08:31:22 ccasin (L3 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:31:23 pigah (L3 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:31:24 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 08:31:56 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:32:04 Tossi (L15 GrFE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:3) 08:32:04 ccasin (L3 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource 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Phrizz11 (L9 TeCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Bailey) 08:34:34 WeiSong (L14 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:2) 08:34:34 pigah (L3 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:38:03 Fiveotanaka (L11 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1) 08:38:03 Sixotanaka (L27 NaTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Zot:1) 08:38:04 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:38:05 Aarinfel (L3 GrFE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:38:06 DarkFrog (L1 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:38:09 Phrizz11 (L9 TeCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Bailey) 08:38:17 albenzo (L1 DEWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:38:30 WeiSong (L14 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:2) 08:38:37 pigah (L2 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:39:02 -!- asgalath has quit [Client Quit] 08:39:25 Phrizz11 (L10 TeCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Bailey) 08:39:26 ccasin (L3 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:39:26 neops (L2 OpHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:39:27 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:40:10 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:40:53 03edlothiol02 07[webtiles-changes] * 0.15-a0-731-g9e8f92c: Webtiles: Allow loading a local file as RC using drag and drop. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 26+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9e8f92c7e127 08:40:54 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:54 pigah (L3 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:40:54 ccasin (L3 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:40:54 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:41:26 ccasin (L3 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:41:27 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:43:32 neops (L1 OpHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:44:13 DarkFrog (L1 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:44:34 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:46:18 Rohk (L20 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:3) 08:46:21 rebi (L9 OpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:7) 08:46:44 Rohk (L20 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:3) 08:47:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:48:35 WeiSong (L14 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:2) 08:49:39 ceezee (L5 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 08:49:47 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:50:30 asgalath (L8 DrSk) (Temple) 08:50:43 Fiveotanaka (L11 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1) 08:50:46 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:50:58 -!- nosrepemos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:52:19 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:52:48 ccasin (L1 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:53:48 -!- asgalath has quit [Client Quit] 08:54:45 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:54:57 03edlothiol02 07* 0.15-a0-701-gb40c8e9: Webtiles: Try to deal better with EAGAIN. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 8+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b40c8e94ac4b 08:56:09 WeiSong (L14 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:2) 08:57:02 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 08:57:14 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:58:24 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:58:47 jordiebear88 (L23 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Elf:3) 08:58:58 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:00:20 Rohk (L20 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:3) 09:00:21 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 09:02:01 jordiebear88 (L23 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Elf:3) 09:02:29 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 09:02:31 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:02:38 SchrodingerCat (L9 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:6) 09:04:42 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:04:42 kinazarov (L1 VSAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Zot (ZotDef)) 09:04:43 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 09:04:44 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 09:05:21 Artefact (L15 KoBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:2) 09:05:21 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 09:05:22 SchrodingerCat (L9 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:6) 09:05:22 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 09:06:03 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:06:38 Tossi (L15 GrFE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:3) 09:06:38 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:06:39 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 09:06:40 DarkFrog (L1 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:07:23 jordiebear88 (L23 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Elf:3) 09:07:24 SchrodingerCat (L9 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:6) 09:07:25 pigah (L2 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:08:01 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:09:21 Insolent (L11 DsCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:11) 09:09:23 pigah (L2 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:09:47 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 09:09:51 kinazarov (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:11:23 WeiSong (L14 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:2) 09:11:23 pigah (L2 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:11:29 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:12:14 pigah (L2 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:12:15 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 09:12:22 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:13:49 !tell |amethyst I don't recall who maintains monster-trunk, but I figured out why it fails on lost souls. It doesn't expect mon_special_ability to kill the mons (fail to find a revivable teleport target on the level) 09:13:49 qoala: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 09:14:16 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 09:14:17 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:14:22 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:15:01 phalm (L12 TrMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lab) 09:15:05 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Bye] 09:15:08 !tell |amethyst I suspect it's easier to just spawn a secondary monster similar to how we setup a door for wardens, than to backup mons through the ability-testing iterations. 09:15:08 qoala: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 09:15:37 spilcher (L3 SpAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 09:16:53 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:54 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 09:17:44 rast (L22 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D (Sprint)) 09:19:00 Artefact (L15 KoBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1) 09:19:46 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-702-g1ec5379: Update ^ screen description of Qazlal 6* resistances (qoala). 10(64 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ec53798691f 09:20:17 -!- Eronarn has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:22:12 pigah (L4 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 09:22:14 rast (L22 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D (Sprint)) 09:22:27 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:47 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:23:27 -!- unpaidbill has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:23:29 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:24:01 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:25:41 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:25:44 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:31 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:28:31 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:18 -!- t4nk785 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:34:36 pigah (L6 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 09:35:00 WeiSong (L14 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:2) 09:35:00 Aarujn (L27 TeWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:2) 09:35:00 Phygar (L7 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 09:35:01 pigah (L6 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 09:35:04 Maahes (L3 VSMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:35:21 -!- DFZM has quit [Client Quit] 09:35:59 Maahes (L1 VSMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:36:22 SchrodingerCat (L9 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:6) 09:36:38 ahorribleplayer (L9 CeHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:6) 09:38:49 -!- Lprsti99___ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:39:18 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:9) 09:40:12 !tell Medar do you know how exactly the deadlock mentioned in 952572735e22d happened? maybe it'd be enough to have timeouts in the server and have crawl block as before 09:40:12 edlothiol: OK, I'll let medar know. 09:40:39 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:42:22 Rassilon (L1 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 09:42:27 kazak (L1 FoAK) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Abyss:1) 09:45:07 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:45:29 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:45:35 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:46:40 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-702-g1ec5379 (34) 09:47:12 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 09:48:59 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:19 huh... if the load on CAO was caused by the rebuild, how did it manage to include the commits made quite a bit after the errors started? 09:52:45 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:53:49 -!- predator117 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:54:08 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:56:15 (I triggered a rebuild to try to get the errors to go away <_<) 09:56:24 ah, ok 10:02:08 edlothiol: Not really. It was just a quick fix to get rid of the whole server dying. 10:02:08 Medar: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:04:35 I guess at least crawl -> server reading should be non-blocking? 10:04:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:06:17 Lag at least on CLAN was really bad at times during the tournament. I think at least some of that is due to how the sockets are handled. 10:06:32 But haven't given it enough thought. Plus this stuff is kind of hard to test. 10:06:40 yeah 10:11:12 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:17 it might be worth considering to switch to something like zeromq which handles this 10:12:07 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:14 not familiar with it, but seems interesting 10:12:45 although that would be a nightmare to do backwards-compatibly, and it might not even help 10:12:47 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:14:20 I wonder what just making the reading in connection.py non-blocking would do. 10:15:37 the reading is already non-blocking? 10:15:52 -!- johnstein has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 10:16:00 s/?/, or isn't it?/ 10:16:10 Oh right, sending. 10:16:15 ah, yes 10:18:19 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:30 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:05 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:22:29 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:15 !tell |amethyst is there a way for me to access the CAO webtiles logs, or could you copy them somewhere? 10:23:15 edlothiol: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 10:25:19 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:26:02 Is there anything in the game that actually explains the significance of a god being 'evil'? 10:26:28 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:36 (that is, good gods will only wrath you if you begin worshiping an evil god) 10:26:50 All the evil god descriptions take great pains to point out that they're evil, but I don't think there's actually any reason to. 10:26:57 <|amethyst> edlothiol: no time to try the switchover right now (I have more time in about a week), but here are the logs: 10:26:57 |amethyst: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 10:27:00 <|amethyst> edlothiol: 10:27:03 <|amethyst> edlothiol: http://dobrazupa.org/.web/ 10:27:28 <|amethyst> edlothiol: let me know when you have them so I can unlink them 10:27:48 <|amethyst> since people might not like having their IP addresses visible :) 10:28:02 |amethyst: ok, got them 10:28:25 Rassilon (L2 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 10:28:26 Morgaine (L9 DESu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:8) 10:28:27 abcde (L9 TeCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Bailey) 10:28:28 Terrin (L3 OgHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 10:28:29 kryolith (L2 DsFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 10:28:31 Phrizz11 (L4 DrCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 10:28:51 |amethyst: how is the load on CAO? 10:29:47 Rassilon (L2 FoHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 10:29:48 DarkMoon (L7 DESk) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 10:29:49 Rohk (L21 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:4) 10:29:59 Eldarby (L7 DENe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 10:30:08 Blomdor (L20 DrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:3) 10:30:25 Medar: there's at least no "slow socket send" or "game socket send timeout" in the logs 10:30:42 edlothiol: Hmm, ok. 10:31:03 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:13 <|amethyst> load of 4 10:32:45 <|amethyst> the problem is that the ttyrec compression and the scoring scripts are both running 10:32:57 ah 10:33:09 <|amethyst> I guess scoring is finished 10:34:17 <|amethyst> CAO does ttyrec compression something like once a day 10:34:55 <|amethyst> the other servers (other than CDO at least) generally do it every 30 minutes or so 10:35:14 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:35:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-703-g972d1c6: Adjust Zin's mutation curing display on the religion screen 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=972d1c6c397a 10:35:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-704-g9aa3c08: Improve display and messaging for Gozag's item duplication 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 6+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9aa3c08c981a 10:35:47 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:37:05 <|amethyst> hm 10:37:19 <|amethyst> the CAO ttyrec compression script was running with ionice -c 2 -n 7 10:37:27 -!- kazak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:37:34 <|amethyst> I changed that to -c 3 (idle class, rather than best-effort with a lower priority) 10:37:45 <|amethyst> I also added nice 10:39:31 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:40:29 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41:03 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:56 did someone just crippled decks of wonders in trunk? 10:43:20 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43:45 %git :/[Ww]onders 10:43:45 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-697-gc4feebf: Adjust wonders deck weighting 10(8 days ago, 2 files, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c4feebf05630 10:43:48 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:43:56 huh, weird 10:43:58 well, last night, yes 10:44:04 uh? 10:44:12 it's tactical now, like all of nemelex's other decks 10:44:18 dammit 10:44:18 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:44:20 %git c6a0166 10:44:20 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-693-gc6a0166: Adjust the contents of decks of wonders 10(12 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6a01665555d 10:44:32 i knew i shouldnt have upgraded my save 10:44:34 hahaha 10:45:27 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 10:47:44