00:00:00 (Dunno why chei bot isn't finding it. 00:00:58 %git :/otion of wood 00:00:59 07kilobyte02 * 0.14-a0-954-gf40d9dc: Add 'potion of wood'. 10(6 months ago, 7 files, 24+ 9-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f40d9dc85920 00:01:04 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:01:14 the space between git and : 00:01:45 Ah, right 00:01:47 thx 00:01:55 the real solution would be for me to get better at searching the commit logs (which I've done, but I keep forgetting how to do it from memory) 00:02:35 I'm what I consider "super lazy" and just dump the entire git log to a text file every time I pull down a new version 00:03:12 that sounds a lot easier, I can't find stuff with %git unless it's the last match either 00:03:40 %git HEAD^{/stuff} 00:03:41 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-139-g766729b: Move mon death stuff from mon-stuff.cc to mon-death.cc. 10(4 weeks ago, 35 files, 3182+ 3117-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=766729b656de 00:03:44 %git HEAD^{/stuff}^^{/stuff} 00:03:44 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-138-g53eb3cf: Move temperature code from mon-stuff.cc to player.cc 10(4 weeks ago, 4 files, 290+ 290-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=53eb3cf6e387 00:03:48 I do "git pull" followed by "git log > ~/crawllogs.log" 00:03:48 %git HEAD^{/stuff}^^{/stuff}^^{/stuff} 00:03:49 07tenofswords02 * 0.14-a0-3613-g347b990: Pull together some quick edits to box_level_dp 10(5 weeks ago, 2 files, 36+ 43-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=347b99035e8e 00:03:50 (etc) 00:03:55 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 00:04:10 then I just keep the log file open in vim 00:04:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:04:22 %git :/stuff 00:04:23 07wheals02 * 0.15-a0-139-g766729b: Move mon death stuff from mon-stuff.cc to mon-death.cc. 10(4 weeks ago, 35 files, 3182+ 3117-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=766729b656de 00:04:32 you can also use git log --grep=foo 00:04:40 (for the record HEAD^ searches trunk; :/ searches any and all commits) 00:04:41 with -i for case insensitivity 00:04:55 thanks johnstein, got my save 00:05:25 !learn edit rchandra[5] s|.*|Grunt: %git HEAD^{/stuff}^^{/stuff}^^{/stuff}| 00:05:26 rchandra[5/8]: Grunt: %git HEAD^{/stuff}^^{/stuff}^^{/stuff} 00:05:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:05:34 :| 00:05:47 oh 00:05:52 ??black magic 00:05:53 black magic[1/4]: %git HEAD^{/rod}^^{/rod} 00:05:58 git log --oneline --grep ignific 00:06:16 I use that one sometimes 00:08:13 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-423-g5707d59 (34) 00:08:41 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:14 -!- Kvaak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:09:47 np Brannock 00:10:02 it's been 7 years since I even booted up the console for online play 00:10:08 forgot all my commands and stuff 00:10:11 heh 00:10:14 -!- Kvaak has joined ##crawl-dev 00:11:41 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:11:50 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-424-gd505f06: Use mons_demon_tier instead of mons_base_char. 10(6 minutes ago, 2 files, 8+ 10-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d505f06e73b9 00:11:51 Doors lead to dead-ends, or are placed in strange areas. by Brannock 00:12:47 so if I were to screw around with making some potion tweaks, should I just directly edit the current potions? (leaving the same names/enums) or is it better if I create a new enum entry and new POT_MY_COOL_POT case in potion.cc? 00:13:07 potion tweaks could vary in scope 00:13:45 just edit the current potions, I'd think 00:13:59 well, I guess it depends what you mean by 'tewak' 00:14:02 *tweak 00:14:43 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:15:25 taking some of the bad potions and leaving in the "bad" effect, but adding some new effects that are good in some situations 00:16:15 but not so good it breaks the potion. but not so bad that you'll never want to use it. but not so good that it would be treated like a "good" potion 00:16:29 obviously, lignification is the poster potion for this 00:16:49 poison cures petrification-in-progress? :) 00:16:51 but I don't plan on making anything that drastic 00:17:03 :) 00:17:05 poison used to be good for IDing rings :) 00:17:19 (and conf, decay, degen) 00:17:25 strong poison is the most irrelevant potion 00:17:28 I'll just edit in place 00:18:01 which, admittedly, is a hotly-contested position 00:18:20 imo it's cMut 00:18:21 I was reading the tavern thread 00:18:32 it had some interesting and some not-so-interesting ideas in there 00:18:44 how is 100-turn ddoor not interesting 00:18:45 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11920 00:18:46 I was reading the tavern thread <- oops 00:18:52 yea 00:19:16 oh my god 'potion of food preservation' 00:19:17 fr poison cures other status effects "The nasty tasting liquid cleanses your body." 00:19:28 the most relevant potion of all time??? 00:19:28 is decay unusually rare? it's usually my last potion 00:19:36 I think so rchandra 00:19:55 // Don't generate randomly - should be rare and interesting. 00:19:57 case POT_DECAY: 00:19:57 yeah, it's rare 00:19:58 from the code 00:20:02 hahaha goodode 00:20:05 *goodcode 00:20:13 that's one I was going to screw around with 00:20:15 Brogue doesn't have this problem because you get free better-than-evaporate 00:20:17 learn add lies 00:20:29 Potion clouds as enormous. 00:20:34 s/as/are 00:20:39 ...literally as rare as !xp 00:20:41 !learn add goodcode // Don't generate randomly - should be rare and interesting. case POT_DECAY: 00:20:41 wtf 00:20:41 goodcode[9/9]: // Don't generate randomly - should be rare and interesting. case POT_DECAY: 00:20:47 hah 00:21:19 !strong_poison is half again as rare as !cmut 00:21:51 xp doesn't generate randomly? thought I've found it early, guess that could be vaults 00:21:58 rchandra: no it does 00:22:08 !source makeitem.cc:2134 00:22:09 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc;hb=HEAD#l2134 00:22:12 !source makeitem.cc:2314 00:22:12 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc;hb=HEAD#l2314 00:22:15 dyslexia 00:22:30 yeah these comments are often not actually true 00:22:36 so what does it mean that it doesn't generate randomly? there's a few places in the code that say "Ok, THIS is where we generate the potion of decay" 00:22:41 the comment is wrong 00:22:44 hah 00:22:45 that is what it means 00:22:45 ok 00:23:04 interesting, restab can't come in piles of more than 1 00:23:21 just like the similarly useful potions, benemut and exp 00:23:23 fr potions of restab put monsters to sleep 00:23:26 so you can restab them 00:23:43 there are already way too many !restab potions 00:23:48 imagine if they came in stacks 00:23:52 how about !restab scrolls 00:24:05 does restab get rid of exhaust 00:24:08 If not, it should 00:24:31 It makes more sense than it recharging breath 00:24:48 Also, it could remove -swift 00:25:59 hahaha I really like ?sorrow (from that potion idea thread) 00:26:08 funny scroll 00:26:33 If there was some way to make restab enable casting of another haste without getting extra contaminated, it could do that too 00:26:44 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:27:04 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:27:53 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:28:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:39 I wonder if some kind of effect that let you translate contam -> hp damage would be interesting. (not on !restab, on a new potion, maybe.) potentially interesting for haste-users, but maybe too strong with invis? 00:32:49 Would it be more interesting if the tiles under rain clouds were always treated as shallow water, rather than creating permanent shallow water 00:33:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:33:12 Also, I haven't played with storm clouds. Does 1/4 chance really feel okay on them? 00:34:02 That ?sorrow idea also reminds me of an idea I had. 00:34:27 fr scroll of xom replaces random uselessness 00:34:52 random uselessness is funny, though 00:35:05 the scroll reforms in your hand! 00:35:39 Xom is funny too 00:36:39 ...this random uselessness code is really something 00:36:47 !source effects.cc:655 00:36:47 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/effects.cc;hb=HEAD#l655 00:36:55 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:37:02 case 5 is also kind of remarkable 00:37:15 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:05 'having a beak means that random uselessness can never make your ears itch.' goodcode 00:38:37 if (you.can_smell()) is the best line ever 00:39:21 ya 00:39:46 I am proud of adding two can_smell() checks to the codebase. 00:39:49 it is my greatest contribution. 00:40:31 ??pleasingfungus 00:40:31 I don't have a page labeled pleasingfungus in my learndb. 00:40:39 Do I want to add that 00:40:42 ?/pleasingfungus 00:40:43 Matching terms (1): ~PleasingFungus_next; entries (1): protip[24]: I left instead of dying that is my pro strat to zig survival 00:40:55 huh, didn't know that existed 00:40:59 ?/johnstein 00:40:59 Matching entries (1): cbro[2]: Announced by Rotatell. Maintained by johnstein . 00:41:02 however I stand by that advice 00:41:36 The funny part about ??protip is that some of those things are actual advice despite being so silly and obvious 00:43:23 sad that protip[20 is obsolete :( 00:43:27 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44:48 -!- Nefhilion has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44:59 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:47:15 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:48:04 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:49:13 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:53:55 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 00:54:45 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:56:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140502030202]] 00:56:10 ??protip[20] 00:56:10 protip[20/27]: there's not a lot of brilliance because i drink brilliance for food 01:01:09 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 01:01:44 drown faq is also obsolete 01:01:52 orb of fire (05*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 30 | HP: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 11silver | XP: 9248 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), malmutate, fireball (3d43) | Sz: little | Int: normal. 01:01:52 %??orb of fire 01:01:58 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:09 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:07:56 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:11:01 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 01:22:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:27:23 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:29:14 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:30:13 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:34:34 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35:32 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:38:53 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40:09 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:56 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:45:48 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:18 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:06:59 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:17:25 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-424-gd505f06 (34) 02:21:13 -!- wat has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:28:48 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:29:17 -!- qoala has quit [Quit: Abscond!] 02:29:28 -!- qoala_ is now known as qoala 02:31:44 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:32:23 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 02:36:41 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:37:13 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:37:32 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:34 -!- rast- is now known as rast 02:41:23 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:48:16 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 02:49:11 -!- Morg0th has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:51:05 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:53:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:54:56 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Using leafChat 2] 02:58:48 -!- thekdawg21 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:58:49 ??otr 02:58:49 olgreb's toxic radiance[1/1]: L4 Poison. Poisons creatures in LOS (including you) multiple times over several turns. Ignores the caster's rPois, unless fully immune to poison. 02:59:18 -!- y2s82 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 03:01:39 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:43 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:04:22 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:07:02 -!- razz0_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:07:56 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:41 -!- Eonwe8 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:11:41 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:11:59 What if Trog set your INT to 0, transferring all INT to either DEX or STR and blocked brainless effects except the 'can't spellcast'? 03:13:09 you mean, all the time? 03:13:16 or under specific situations? 03:13:30 maybe during berserk 03:14:48 It seems like an odd bonus that would suit trog, since he already doesn't like you using anything that requires INT 03:16:43 perhaps could work as a passive bonus under some situations. 03:17:06 maybe based on piety, trog adjusts it along with Trog's Hand 03:17:19 no piety, 0% of int is split 03:17:33 max piety, X% of int is split 03:17:49 but Trog's Hand is already pretty strong I think 03:21:31 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [] 03:21:52 Trog is...the strongest early game god...and a pretty strong choice through extended, but the least flexible god. 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##crawl-dev 11:08:59 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:10 !seen reaverb 11:09:10 I last saw reaverb at Sat May 3 06:20:56 2014 UTC (2d 9h 48m 14s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Leaving.'. 11:12:41 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:14:51 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:34 -!- fuuu has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:16:34 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:17:29 -!- MDvedh has quit [Client Quit] 11:18:20 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:18:37 !seen dpeg 11:18:37 I last saw dpeg at Mon May 5 16:09:10 2014 UTC (9m 27s ago) saying '!seen reaverb' on ##crawl-dev. 11:18:55 !tell reaverb If I remember correctly you were going to look at the weapon brand distribution code at some point. 11:18:56 Grunt: OK, I'll let reaverb know. 11:19:03 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:10 !send dpeg bribed branches 11:20:10 Sending bribed branches to dpeg. 11:23:08 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:23:19 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:28:25 -!- bones__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:28:45 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:37 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:32:30 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33:00 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:17 -!- FiftyNine has quit [] 11:33:35 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 28.0/20140319124030]] 11:33:38 -!- necKro has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:35:01 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-425-gc60bd48: Remove two outdated functions from Control Winds. 10(6 minutes ago, 5 files, 5+ 29-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c60bd48a684f 11:36:07 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:08 -!- RobertusAmor has quit [Client Quit] 11:36:26 looks like ench_wind_aided was a victim of ranged_combat 11:36:56 so it did exist until recently, at least :P 11:37:07 oh, grunt beats me to the punc again 11:39:31 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: 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The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 13:24:42 -!- Roarke has quit [Client Quit] 13:32:30 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-403-g0aaa5f1: Fix Upheaval square effect calculations. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0aaa5f195a53 13:33:12 -!- LordSloth has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:35:41 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-403-g0aaa5f1 13:37:14 -!- bones___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:25 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:59 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:06 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:29 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-403-g0aaa5f1 13:42:11 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:42:13 What if there was a semi-rare scroll that when used increased the spelllevels used by and/or MP cost of a spell, but also made it more powerful (without significantly changing the effect); like bumping B.Magma to level 7, but increasing the damage; or bumping Spammals to level 3, but raising the summon cap and letting it draw orange/green rats at higher spell power. 13:47:56 -!- Lasty has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:13 -!- Lasty has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:24 -!- Guest87722 is now known as Basil 13:56:15 -!- LNCP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:57:49 Gozag bug: gold detection shows other item by dpeg 13:57:49 Gozag bug: merchant shop listed twice in Ctrl-O by dpeg 14:03:18 -!- FVG has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:04:30 !send dpeg bugs 14:04:30 Sending bugs to dpeg. 14:04:47 I have enough, thanks thanks. 14:07:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08:00 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:06 !send dpeg bug spray 14:08:06 Sending bug spray to dpeg. 14:08:14 is there a way to level up a monster in wizmode? 14:08:35 xG, I think? 14:08:41 (only discovered that the other day) 14:09:33 ah, i didn't see that on the list 14:09:55 wow i'm really blind today i still don't see it on the list 14:10:36 Maybe it isn't on the list! 14:10:59 Lasty: I glanced over the patch, I'd like to implement the potion/scroll-granting in a less icky way before pushing it (by checking for existing slots with that potion/scroll and increasing quantity), but aside from that it looks good 14:12:03 elliptic: that's fair. 14:12:18 @ demigod wanderer (wandering) 14:12:20 Also: thanks 14:12:26 oh I guess they are p now 14:13:04 demipod 14:13:18 It has half a tentacle? 14:13:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:13:51 -!- Bcadren_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:15:05 Grunt: killing stone giants in a couple of stones might be explained by how weapons were allowed to affect the damage 14:15:17 -!- enygmata has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:15:22 since big clubs hurt 14:16:38 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:08 Chris7 (L27 GrEE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:11) 14:18:55 You throw a giant spiked club. The giant spiked club hits Antaeus!!!!!! 14:19:28 Grunt: What's the damage formula.. NOW? 14:19:44 Bloax: go find out for yourself! 14:19:50 :-( 14:19:53 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 14:20:08 <|amethyst> Grunt: hm... I guess vault_mon_types has -1 instead of MONS_NO_MONSTER ? 14:20:13 -!- LordSloth_ is now known as LordSloth 14:20:28 |amethyst: -1 means "this is actually a place, not a type" 14:20:44 |amethyst: the -1 isn't supposed to appear beyond _resolve_monster 14:21:07 <|amethyst> Grunt: it's not, but I guess -1 should break the loop like MONS_NO_MONSTER does? 14:21:18 hm 14:21:20 possibly 14:21:50 ...oh, yes, that makes perfect sense. 14:21:58 I was misunderstanding where the crash was happening :) 14:29:33 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:08 * wheals has come up with a horrible idea. 14:30:15 http://pastie.org/9143559 14:31:12 wheals: well, it would have no effect on my games 14:31:18 so go ahead 14:31:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:22 am i understanding it right that throwing things gives a damage bonus that is Throwing*(MissileBaseDamage/20) 14:32:42 (i want to make a tweak or two later, and i have to go now, though) 14:32:45 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:32:57 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:33:14 -!- notcluie is now known as bldbeditor 14:34:09 -!- bldbeditor is now known as notcluie 14:35:17 oh and there's the steel dam = div_rand_round(dam*13,10) 14:37:06 game dev is hard 14:37:54 I coded up 4 updated potions this weekend. trying to take the "potion of slowing-> lignification" philosophy. 14:38:05 it's hard if you can barely read code because you've never coded 14:38:16 got them working. but not balanced. went to bed 14:38:34 and this morning I'm convinced they are all rubbish 14:38:44 johnstein: :( 14:38:52 johnstein: what were your potions? 14:38:54 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:54 johnstein: i have the exact reverse phenomenon 14:38:57 !send johnstein ideas 14:38:57 Sending ideas to johnstein. 14:38:59 haha 14:39:00 I draw some rubbish. 14:39:05 and maybe save it 14:39:13 then come back a month later and it didn't look all that bad. 14:39:27 I sometimes code things up precisely because I think they're rubbish and I want to see how close to the mark I was in practice. 14:39:36 added otr to potions of poison and strong poison 14:39:46 which is fun to play with 14:40:02 but I'm not convinced if it's balancable 14:40:11 yes, sounds tough 14:40:13 in the ideal crawl philosophy way 14:40:26 0-exp OTR doesn't sound especially unbalanced 14:40:38 potion of paralysis -> potion of release storm (working title) 14:40:41 Decent against bees 14:41:17 potion of summon 10 randomly-hostile eyeballs 14:41:31 unleashes a ring of storms from your body... or something. ring of storm clouds and you still get paralyzed (it's HARD WORK!) 14:41:37 and slowed afterwards 14:41:51 Basil: get surrounded on d:3 by these things 14:41:54 great orb of eyes (09G) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 50-83 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Dam: 20 | see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison | XP: 1027 | Sp: paralyse, disintegrate (d44), slow, confuse, 04esc:teleport other | Sz: Large | Int: high. 14:41:54 %??Great orb of eyes 14:42:07 huh 14:42:09 d44 disint 14:42:17 i died to that shit once 14:42:27 they are live on DBRO 14:42:31 ??dbro 14:42:32 dbro[1/2]: The development wing of CBRO. ssh to dev.berotato.org user: dev same ssh keys as cbro (http://crawl.beRotato.org/crawl/keys) . Currently serving mediocre crawl dev versions and Dwarf Fortress (running in TEXT mode) Set your terminal size to 80x25 (!) and ensure you are using UTF-8 character set. 14:43:39 the other was Potion of DeRegeneration. you still lose stats but it converts it into hp and mp. like 1/3 of !hw and !magic 14:43:43 but this seems like a big no no 14:43:52 since there are other ways to heal yourself 14:44:08 I also doubled the rot repair compared to !hw 14:44:22 but does anyone even repair rot? 14:44:35 yes 14:44:35 so yea, they were fun to make and try out 14:44:49 I do when I have an excess amount of healstuff. 14:45:24 would you use a potion of deregeneration to get more rot repair at the cost of some mid term stat reduction? 14:46:16 (deregeneration is fun to say) 14:46:47 Sometimes, yes 14:47:00 I rarely get significant rot unless I go to Crypt and/or Hell 14:47:07 but sometimes death drakes happen 14:47:28 I'm going to take a stab at !confusion and !decay, just to round out the set 14:47:29 but stats can be repaired with a common and usually useless potion 14:47:45 then post it all for C&C 14:47:47 yea 14:48:13 Double prefixes are kinda argh. 14:48:14 I'm worried that deregeneration encourages tedious action sequences like that 14:48:26 Since the base word is Generation 14:48:41 it's mainly a joke name ATM 14:49:15 trying to get the mechanics ironed out before coming up with a good name 14:49:37 just remove decay/degeneration 14:49:56 and replace poison with bee form and strong poison with wasp form 14:49:58 too easy 14:50:03 and confusion with fungus form 14:51:00 alternatively leave confusion be and turn poison into fungus form 14:51:01 there was a note in the potion tavern thread saying !fungus form was already rejected 14:51:17 but fungus form is best form 14:52:03 !deathcap form 14:53:19 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:53:40 what about evokables that turn you into forms and take longer and longer to recharge? 14:54:24 hm. now I'm just idling brainstorming 15:00:18 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:01:35 -!- notcluie is now known as bldb 15:02:12 -!- bldb is now known as notcluie 15:03:19 -!- Wah has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:05:15 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:39 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 15:09:06 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:10:29 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:11:09 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:15:15 -!- Red_Bucket has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:48 I had this idea for psionic abilities, but it would have some balance issues 15:16:32 It would make felids stronger, kobolds stronger, cheibriados stronger, =sustab stronger, !restab stronger, and make elyvilon way too funny 15:16:50 A lot of psionic abilities would also trivialize spriggan enemies and boggarts. 15:17:04 And even encourage you to kill them in the slowest and more horrible way. 15:18:29 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:40 slowly killing boggarts is an idea I can get behind 15:19:56 So you have a lot of spell-like abilities. They all either cost INT drain, or make you exhausted for some turns, or both. One of these abilities is brain feed. 15:20:03 replace fountains with vats of hot oil, so that you can lower boggarts in slowly and with great attention to detail 15:20:54 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:21:07 When you use it on an enemy, it rolls again HD and tries to lower their intelligence class. If it succeeds, it does that, gives you nutrition, and has a chance to restore some int 15:21:45 the nutrition you gain and the chance to restore int increases for carnivores, and decreases for herbivores. So spriggans do not get to partake in eating brains 15:23:23 Higher int enemies give more value. If you reduce an enemy to plant intelligence, they lose the ability to use spells and are permanently slowed. 15:23:58 if you want to brainstorm big ideas, it's really better to make a post in GDD and get community feedback 15:24:24 unless you're actually writing code for this and need help with said code 15:26:46 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:27:54 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:29:20 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 15:32:15 03Lasty02 {elliptic} 07* 0.15-a0-426-ge19ec05: Wanderer starting kit tweaks. 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 95+ 48-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e19ec05e9b60 15:34:00 Lasty: there you go, let me know if you have any further ideas for Wn :) 15:34:38 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:37:58 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:22 Is DgWn even more OP now 15:38:27 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:35 OpWn is pretty Op 15:38:43 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-404-g6d37529: Don't let Disaster Area go through walls. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6d375296fab6 15:38:45 :P 15:39:26 the changes were probably a buff to the average Wn and a slight nerf to startscumming Wn 15:39:57 DEMIGODWANDERER 15:40:23 Grunt: rip disasterzigsprint 15:41:55 Maybe I'll do it again! 15:42:40 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-404-g6d37529 15:45:08 elliptic: Woo! Thanks! 15:45:50 The changes definitely made the worst wanderer starts much better 15:45:57 But the best ones somewhat worse 15:46:28 well you're not going to get a +3 quarterstaff with a potion of berserk and a scroll of blinking often 15:47:05 true -- never now. 15:49:00 elliptic: yeah, your version of handling the multiple consumables issue is way cleaner. 15:49:10 -!- Dark is now known as Guest1241 15:49:28 -!- Guest1241 has quit [Client Quit] 15:53:47 Is there a list of what each monster int class does to their behavoir? 15:54:51 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:55:40 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 15:56:48 !lg 4tharraofdagon OgHu 15:56:48 68. 4tharraofdagon the Chucker (L3 OgHu), quit the game on D:4 on 2014-05-05 20:56:36, with 105 points after 404 turns and 0:03:37. 15:57:27 !lg 4tharraofdagon OgHu 68 -tv:> 15:57:28 68. 4tharraofdagon, XL3 OgHu, T:404 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 15:57:52 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:04 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 16:00:02 !lg 4tharraofdagon OgHu 68 -tv:> 16:00:02 68. 4tharraofdagon, XL3 OgHu, T:404 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 16:01:11 !learn add hilarious_deaths !lg 4tharraofdagon OgHu 68 -tv:> 16:01:11 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:01:11 hilarious deaths[169/169]: !lg 4tharraofdagon OgHu 68 -tv:> 16:01:45 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:39 It's hilarious, but god damn is that awful luck. 16:05:52 -!- Thundamoo has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:05 !learn del hilarious_deaths[169] 16:06:05 Deleted hilarious deaths[169/169]: !lg 4tharraofdagon OgHu 68 -tv:> 16:06:10 (You might try hilarious_quits instead.) 16:06:24 drag0n (L27 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:12) 16:06:42 Grunt: that's not a quit 16:06:49 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 16:07:01 !lg 4tharraofdagon oghu 68 16:07:01 that's a deathquit 16:07:01 68. 4tharraofdagon the Chucker (L3 OgHu), quit the game on D:4 on 2014-05-05 20:56:36, with 105 points after 404 turns and 0:03:37. 16:07:03 QUIT 16:07:03 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 16:07:10 drag0n (L27 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:12) 16:07:22 unless being poisoned at 1 hp and quitting doesn't qualify as dying 16:07:28 Hey so I'm working on coding a god for testing purposes. I've got a dummy altar and you can pray at it and join the religion but when you check the ^ screen Crawl quits 16:07:41 I assume it is because I have not put anything on the ^ screen? 16:07:47 How do I do so? 16:07:52 Uh, possibly? Does it give a crash message? 16:07:59 Nope, just quits 16:08:10 Is there a morgue/crash-* file? 16:08:15 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:15 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:08:32 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:32 Yes 16:08:36 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:39 Well 16:08:47 Maybe this has crashed a few time 16:08:52 Let me triple check 16:08:55 ...pick the most recent one :) 16:09:05 drag0n (L27 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:12) 16:09:47 Yep here we go 16:09:50 crash report 16:10:12 What do the first few lines say? (alternatively paste the report somewhere online) 16:10:15 Unable to get stack trace on this platform 16:10:21 Before that. 16:10:32 restart_after_game = true? 16:10:46 Version: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.15-a0-258-g027b8cd Platform: Windows Bits: 32 Game mode: normal Tiles: yes Command line: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\crawl\crawl-ref\source\crawl.exe 16:10:49 hm 16:10:51 !crashlog 16:10:51 No milestones for crash. 16:10:53 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:53 !crashlog * 16:10:53