00:00:13 -!- nosrepemos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:02:08 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:55 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 00:06:36 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:13 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-407-gf99988b (34) 00:08:49 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:09:13 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 00:13:10 -!- ryansv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15:12 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:48 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:24:25 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:26:22 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-408-g3fb529a: Don't let lava worms look like worms, either. 10(52 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=3fb529acba31 00:27:53 -!- vede has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:28:37 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 00:29:55 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:35:35 -!- eb has quit [] 00:35:36 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:56 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:18 Dagoth (L7 MiFi) (D:4) 00:45:18 -!- Frank2368 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:46:53 uhoh 00:46:59 !crashlog daagoth 00:46:59 No milestones for daagoth (crash). 00:47:02 !crashlog dagoth 00:47:03 3. Dagoth, XL7 MiFi, T:3544 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Dagoth/crash-Dagoth-20140504-054415.txt 00:47:39 wow blinking himself 00:47:42 good strat 00:48:06 Dagoth (L7 MiFi) (D:4) 00:48:24 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:49:12 ranged_attack.cc needs a defender->is_monster() on line 314 00:49:26 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:34 looks reproducible 00:49:35 Xom factors racial mutations when deciding whether to give you good ones or not, please fix 00:49:48 I just tested it a ton 00:50:03 (computer with code on it is off right now and I am about to go to sleep) 00:50:34 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:51:48 ??sleep 00:51:48 sleep[1/1]: Aizul and the Enchantress use it. Berserk makes you immune. Taking damage wakes you up, and melee attacks against you do 2.5x damage. 00:52:39 * Grunt flies into a coding frenzy! 00:53:08 It's a three-line fix 00:54:03 It's especially absurd on Gargoyles and Ogres 00:55:04 -!- Nethris has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:57:40 <|amethyst> syraine: where? 00:58:05 -!- RZX has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 00:58:10 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 00:58:42 <|amethyst> whether you get good or bad mutations seems to depend on whether xom is being good or bad 00:59:20 FishServ (L20 GrMo) (Vaults:4) 00:59:36 FishServ (L20 GrMo) (Vaults:4) 00:59:44 !crashlog fishserv 00:59:45 No milestones for fishserv (crash). 01:00:29 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-409-g9c81f37: Fix a crash on hitting yourself with a dart of dispersal (Grunt). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9c81f37786b5 01:00:31 'F'iring a dart of dispersal at self crashes the game. by Dagoth 01:00:42 good job chei 01:01:16 !crashlog fishserv 01:01:16 2. FishServ, XL20 GrMo, T:55566 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/FishServ/crash-FishServ-20140504-055932.txt 01:01:34 wheals: thanks! 01:02:07 uh oh, looks like fishserv's was on choosing a shop 01:02:34 Don't evolution benmut have bad racial mut checks too? 01:02:42 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 01:03:39 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:54 Sorry, I was away for a moment 01:06:15 It's just observation in WizMode - roll a Gargoyle and you'll see the difference 01:06:22 You know, for example, to an Ogre 01:06:27 <|amethyst> for (unsigned int j = 0; j < candidates.size(); j++) 01:06:27 <|amethyst> { 01:06:28 <|amethyst> const int diff = max_absdepth + 1 - candidates[i].absdepth(); 01:06:28 <|amethyst> weights.push_back(diff * diff * diff * diff * diff); 01:06:28 <|amethyst> } 01:06:36 <|amethyst> Is that supposed to be candidates[j] ? 01:07:24 <|amethyst> (re FishServ's crash) 01:10:45 Dagoth (L8 MiFi) (D:5) 01:16:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:16:48 -!- the_glow has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:48 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:23:14 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:26:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:28:12 -!- dracflamloc has quit [Client Quit] 01:36:19 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:40:48 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:42:04 is it possible to enslave a summoned creature? 01:44:34 yes, and killing the summoner poofs your enslaved creature. 01:44:38 -!- meyeb has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:46:02 Summons don't switch sides when their summoner does by Rast 01:46:52 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:47:14 there you go gammafunk 01:47:58 see also https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8362 01:49:36 I have uploaded bug fix patches to mantis tickets #8446, #8448, and #8487 if anyone wants to take a look at them. 01:49:56 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:51:54 Aeowon (L1 SpMo) ASSERT((int)Buffer.size() == expanded_keys_left) in 'macro.cc' at line 551 failed. (D:1) 01:53:00 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:23 -!- Basil is now known as Guest20462 01:55:00 !bug 8446 01:55:00 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8446 01:57:16 03|amethyst02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-392-gc7e5426: Actually weight Gozag shops by shallowness; don't crash. 10(32 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c7e5426a1bb7 01:58:00 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt shallowness weighting of Gozag shops wasn't working at all; maybe c1687c6 wasn't actually necessary (it had no effect at the time) 01:58:00 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 01:58:12 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:13 <|amethyst> !tell Grunt fixed in c7e5426 01:58:13 |amethyst: OK, I'll let grunt know. 02:00:16 rast: thanks, I'll remember to take a look later this week when I've have a bit more time for making patches 02:00:55 qoala: ok, thanks 02:01:15 dont' think that will be particularly hard; just iterate over monsters on levels, converting those who were summoned by the newly aligned monster 02:01:36 uh i would reuse whatever code poofs monsters that were summoned 02:01:51 have to handle the relevant directions, but it's similar to the avatar issues that I fixed 02:02:23 03qoala02 {wheals} 07* 0.15-a0-410-g90ae437: Fix enchantments on hogs during Kirke death (#8446) 10(4 days ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=90ae437c9b4a 02:02:23 03qoala02 {wheals} 07* 0.15-a0-411-g153a95e: Lost soul spectralization retains monster's god (#8487) 10(24 hours ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=153a95ed1777 02:02:51 In fact I may be able to just check the summoner in all cases and generalize that code 02:02:56 <|amethyst> hrm 02:03:52 -!- Guest20462 is now known as Basil 02:05:21 Guest2062, are you always signing in from a hotel wifi or something Basil 02:05:35 are you a bell boy 02:16:55 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-392-gc7e5426 02:19:02 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:23:33 !tell Grunt this might just be a wizmode bug but if you ditch Gozag a branch will stay bribed, also if you're bribing multiple branches the @ description doesn't end with a period. 02:23:33 nicolae-: OK, I'll let grunt know. 02:23:54 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-411-g153a95e (34) 02:30:18 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:32:18 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:35:47 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:36:09 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:45 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:55:37 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 02:59:36 uh 02:59:46 I think ranged combat is now somehow even more overpowered than it was earlier 03:00:25 crawl-dev is hard when you don't have a solid C background 03:01:03 Well, at least the ranged combat code isn't a horrible mess anymore, so we should be able to balance tweak it? 03:12:44 when crawl crashes immediately after doing something (quaffing a potion that I edited the code for), how do I intercept the crash to get info on what happened? 03:12:51 johnstein: a hill giant background? 03:13:12 hill giant? nada 03:13:32 ??hill giant 03:13:32 hill giant[1/1]: Big orange C with big orange clubs that hit for big orange damage and can be big orange trouble in big orange melee. Sometimes carries a big orange throwing net. 03:13:41 wouldn't hill giant be a species, not a background 03:14:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:14:03 heh 03:15:42 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:15:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 03:19:40 johnstein: you can look at the crash file, or better yet run it through a debugger like gdb 03:20:03 -!- pox has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:20:17 depending on what platform you're on 03:20:53 ubuntu 03:21:25 where does the crash file go? I know I can cheat and use sequell for cbro, but not sure how to do it the manual way 03:24:18 it usually prints the location, but let me see on my system (also ubuntu) 03:24:54 morgue/crash-ranged-20140504-032437.txt 03:25:02 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:25:03 where my crawl name was "ranged" 03:25:09 so right into the morgue dir 03:25:30 but if you're on ubuntu, you should probably learn how to use gdb and set breakpoints 03:26:33 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:27:20 ty 03:27:31 I installed gdb 03:27:36 crashed the game again 03:27:42 but says that GDB isn't installed 03:27:47 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:28:01 I'm running in a chroot, but it's almost identical to cbro's chroot where I did the same thing 03:28:06 apt-get install gdb 03:28:29 that is, the crash file still says gdb isn't installed 03:28:40 -!- nicolae- has left ##crawl-dev 03:29:39 yeah, gdb isn't getting seen in the chroot I guess 03:30:01 hm 03:30:08 but I see the problem anyway 03:30:16 ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(ctarget)) in 'cloud.cc' at line 595 failed. 03:30:36 can't place a cloud in a wall, can we? 03:32:34 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:39:34 oooh it was actually working! 03:43:01 do storm clouds only last for 1 turn usually? 03:44:45 nope 03:45:44 well, maybe. hm. this is the kind of stuff that always slows me down 03:47:33 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:50:21 ??storm cloud 03:50:21 storm cloud[1/1]: Has a 1/4 chance of zapping things in it with lightning each turn, creates water like rain clouds, makes a lot of noise. 03:50:42 how do I make a storm cloud last longer than 1 turn 03:52:54 ??rain cloud 03:52:54 rain cloud[1/1]: makes water 04:01:30 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:04:26 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:25:27 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:35:58 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:36:24 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:30 -!- djanatyn has quit [Excess Flood] 04:38:13 -!- jeffro_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:41:38 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 04:50:06 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:04:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:05:06 -!- Stevid has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:05:20 -!- Zermako has quit [] 05:09:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 05:32:45 -!- category has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:37:43 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:01 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:42:48 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I was trying to figure out the best way to do that :) 09:24:13 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:26:29 <|amethyst> I guess at some point we need to drop the #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION things 09:26:55 -!- bzn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28:24 -!- nosrepemos has quit [] 09:29:41 <|amethyst> maybe there's some way to trick the preprocessor into doing that without touching the other things? 09:30:29 <|amethyst> failing that, some nasty multi-line regexp that hopefully isn't completely broken 09:34:11 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:37:35 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:01 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-413-gc6111ba: Adjust altar placement in sprints 10(42 minutes ago, 4 files, 81+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6111badf8d4 09:39:53 Grunt: i guess that probably conflicts a bunch with your gods branch commits, sorry :P 09:40:02 MarvinPA: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh 09:40:15 (probably only one but you are still a terrible person :b) 09:40:56 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:41:07 i implemented the oldest still-open implementable though! 09:41:25 imo that makes up for it :P 09:43:43 oh, 2010 09:45:25 I think I just got the "C r a w l" vault, but only "wl" are intact. New letters :) 09:46:45 it doesn't always try to spell it, i think, so you might have just gotten unlucky 09:46:50 <|amethyst> dpeg: 'l' was the one that needed fixed actually 09:46:57 <|amethyst> it's only 1/10 that it tries to spell it 09:47:07 %git :/spelling 09:47:08 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-267-g1dd2060: Correct spelling. 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dd20605e3e5 09:48:19 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:49:10 -!- Ququman_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:46 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:52:37 -!- Ququman has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:52:37 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:03 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-394-gb525e66: Scale back Gozag shop weight scaling. 10(16 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b525e66fbd40 09:58:03 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-395-gd5a16fe: Don't place Gozag shops on levels that can't get them normally. 10(11 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5a16fe0576e 09:58:03 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-396-ge94ee66: Adjust Disaster Area target selection. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e94ee66c1bba 09:58:35 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59:03 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-396-ge94ee66 10:02:37 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:05:11 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-396-ge94ee66 10:05:31 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:16 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 10:10:14 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:11:19 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:48 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:21:06 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:55 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:45 <|amethyst> Grunt: I have a draft script for removing the old TAG_MAJOR_ things. It misses one in output.cc that has a nested #if inside it 10:22:54 <|amethyst> Grunt: and the result needs more review 10:23:05 <|amethyst> Grunt: should I push it to gods, or just give you a copy? 10:23:20 <|amethyst> Grunt: (it = the script, not the results of running it) 10:25:02 <|amethyst> Grunt: it leaves the #if TAG_MAJOR_VERSION == 35 stuff, though really we could get rid of all that when merging the branch into master, since there will be no old saves to worry about converting 10:27:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 10:30:51 03|amethyst02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-397-g89673ff: New script util/tag-major-upgrade. 10(30 minutes ago, 1 file, 110+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=89673ffc13e3 10:30:53 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140502030202]] 10:30:53 <|amethyst> Grunt: pushing it to the branch, so that we can have it in trunk when we merge 10:33:14 <|amethyst> Grunt: there's also various non-C++ stuff that needs updates; grep -R TAG_MAJOR_VERSION dat/ for at least some of them 10:36:38 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:06 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:48 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:41:02 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:59 -!- Crehl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:44:41 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:45:46 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:26 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 11:03:38 soloincognito (L6 FoEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Sewer) 11:03:38 rast (L2 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D (Sprint)) 11:03:39 reaven (L4 VSCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 11:03:44 Apollyon (L3 VpEn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 11:03:44 Myrdradek (L9 TrBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:7) 11:03:45 Moomoo (L5 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 11:03:47 quixotic (L5 VSMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4) 11:03:48 shit 11:04:38 -!- bones____ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:04:47 well there goes that game :\ 11:04:53 luckily it was just sprint 11:04:57 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:57 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:11:57 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:12:57 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:15:25 -!- yokelz has left ##crawl-dev 11:19:48 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:38 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:23:48 -!- Eyesburn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:27:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27:23 <|amethyst> maybe single-level sprints should auto-save every once in a while 11:30:56 -!- sdegenko has quit [Client Quit] 11:33:28 -!- 14WACQR7B is now known as morik_ 11:33:46 -!- morik has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:33:48 -!- morik_ is now known as morik 11:37:13 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:37:51 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:39:05 |amethyst: could make a feature type that is game-wise identical to a door, but saves when you open it 11:39:05 ontoclasm: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:39:12 !messages 11:39:12 (1/3) gammafunk said (5d 16h 49m 56s ago): you can't live in the tiles world and the console world! The two can never coexist! 11:39:17 !messages 11:39:17 (1/2) roctavian said (1d 22h 34m 38s ago): I have some tiles you could help me out with, I left you a PM on SA about it 11:39:24 !messages 11:39:24 (1/1) reaverb said (1d 13h 42m 27s ago): Might want to look at bug #8488, shows a case where ghost tranparancy makes them extremely difficult to distinguish from the scenery. 11:41:17 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:43:18 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:36 -!- bones____ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:44:47 im trying to create a ring of clouds around the player and have them not dissipate after 1 turn. I can create the ring by calling place_cloud over and over. but the clouds disappear after one turn and sometimes before 1 turn. 11:44:55 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:03 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:14 s/im/I'm stupid lack of autocorrect 11:46:31 I was looking in cloud.cc and I see some cloud dissipation code but it wasn't immediately clear to me if I could affect the dissipation 11:46:38 rate 11:47:28 maybd I just need to fire off the 'create cloud ring' code once a turn for X turns 11:48:10 ontoclasm: for #8488 I'd suggest a bright purple player-shaped halo. 11:48:21 unfortunately i still have 300 pages to read so i can't help out now :c 11:48:27 Bloax: yeah, a halo of some kind seems besdt 11:48:53 but the way the layering works might make it work strangely 11:49:00 maybe something like the orange rat too 11:49:45 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:54 Roarke (L23 LONe) ASSERT(in_bounds(source)) in 'beam.cc' at line 615 failed. (source = (0,0)) (Depths:1) 11:49:54 johnstein: i know clouds have a duration attribute 11:50:11 but i don't know how to set it or what to set it to 11:52:25 <|amethyst> johnstein: the cl_range parameter seems to be duration, not range 11:53:06 -!- notcluie is now known as notlucy 11:53:08 oh 11:53:16 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:43 <|amethyst> johnstein: manage_fire_shield (ring of flames implementation) does place_cloud(CLOUD_FIRE, *ai, 1 + random2(6), &you); 11:53:43 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:53:46 -!- notlucy is now known as notcluie 11:53:48 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Client Quit] 11:54:41 |amethyst: thanks. that is making more sense. 11:54:46 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:55:26 <|amethyst> if I'm reading correctly, the cloud decays by you.time_taken every turn (so 1 per tick) 11:57:26 I should have caught that last 11:57:30 night 11:58:05 Ty 12:00:18 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:03 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:17 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:08:32 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:44 -!- bones____ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:10:48 "There is a cloud of buggy goodness here." mission accomplished 12:11:32 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:47 -!- Wahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:23 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:11 -!- scummos__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:15:58 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-413-gc6111ba (34) 12:16:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:21 johnstein: another place to look might be how AF_FIREBRAND/that one holy monster place clouds 12:16:36 ophan 12:20:59 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:22:21 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:25:39 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:25:59 -!- notcluie is now known as what 12:26:18 -!- what is now known as badlearndbadder 12:26:27 -!- badlearndbadder is now known as notcluie 12:27:18 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:32:42 -!- thetao has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:33:39 |amethyst: I'm maintaining a gods_34 branch which is gods without the tag bump, just in case something comes up thst we want to do before a tag bump so that it doesn't hold up gods. 12:34:04 |amethyst: so a lot of work on tag compat isn't especially necessary :) 12:35:37 !tell roctavian https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/charms.png 12:35:37 ontoclasm: OK, I'll let roctavian know. 12:35:55 progresss 12:36:08 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:36:52 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:19 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:30 <|amethyst> Grunt: btw, do clouds look correct in Gods branch webtiles? I haven't checked, but I ask because it still has a tile enum for CLOUD_GLOOM 12:38:37 ??dragon form 12:38:38 dragon form[1/4]: You're a dragon now! RAAAAWR! Breathe fire! Be tough (+50% hp) and strong! Gives +10 str, flight, rPois+ rFire++ rCold-, 34% GDR, +16 AC, huge size (will nuke your EV). Base unarmed damage = (20 + str*(2/3) + unarmed_skill). 12:38:45 ??dragon form[2] 12:38:46 dragon form[2/4]: Draconians keep their existing scales AC bonus and resistances. Their breath weapon is also augmented. 12:38:50 uck what level is it 12:38:54 7? 12:39:06 ??dragon form[3 12:39:07 dragon form[3/4]: Usually not very useful because by the time you can cast it, you have great armour and don't really want to meld it and simultaneously nerf your dodging. Also good for getting killed by ice fiends. 12:39:31 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:40:03 |amethyst: yes 12:47:08 -!- MgDark has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47:17 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:47:26 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 12:50:02 hm. being surrounded by a ring of random clouds doesn't seem to be as strong as I thought it would be 12:50:35 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:29 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:51 oh. maybe it was the dust cloud 12:54:36 I was thinking about how to let console spectators talk to webtiles spectators and vice versa 12:54:45 anybody want to give my design doc a once-over? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M9MPlg8RmjMr41M2RqzJ7VuXu-yZAEv5pN_5qqbCdDI/edit?usp=sharing 12:55:31 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:55:32 the upshot is "make a little chatroom window webpage; make console spectators go there to talk to webtiles players; let console players go there to communicate to webtiles spectators 12:57:16 -!- bones__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:57:32 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:03 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:48 -!- st_ has quit [] 13:02:24 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:03:01 nrook: that looks good to me (I'm not completely happy with having console players use a browser to see their chat, but it would probably be overkill to write a chat interface for console) 13:04:25 !tell |amethyst how feasible is it to have node.js installed on servers for js minification during build? 13:04:25 edlothiol: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 13:05:03 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:06 yes; it's nice to see chat messages in parallel, too, since they're often low-content enough that hitting _ just to see them would be annoying 13:05:14 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:05:33 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:42 but "don't have to write irssi for crawl" is the big bonus 13:06:10 <|amethyst> edlothiol: installed where? 13:06:10 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:07:03 edlothiol: on CBRO I have node installed outside of the chroot. should be easy to install inside 13:07:08 |amethyst: outside the chroot, to be called during crawl compilation 13:07:28 <|amethyst> edlothiol: so we need a javascript interpreter too I presume 13:07:37 <|amethyst> oih 13:07:41 Throwing weapons use wielded melee weapon/weapon skill by MarvinPA 13:07:46 <|amethyst> node.js has an interpreter 13:08:12 <|amethyst> Installing a web server just to do minification sounds like overkill? 13:08:45 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:49 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:09:09 -!- Basil is now known as Guest16811 13:15:15 |amethyst: I know... but I'm not sure there's a better alternative 13:18:27 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:18:41 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 13:19:27 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:20:47 <|amethyst> edlothiol: which minifier? yui compressor is in Java and packer is available in Perl among other languages 13:20:57 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:34 |amethyst: I was assuming installing java isn't better than installing node 13:21:47 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:22:03 |amethyst: and I'd prefer to use the require.js optimizer 13:22:06 <|amethyst> yeah, you're probably right about that :) 13:22:51 Is nodejs really that heavy? 13:23:20 Also nice to see that you are back edlothiol :) 13:23:56 according to the debian package archive, about 3M installed (+ V8) 13:24:24 <|amethyst> err 13:24:42 <|amethyst> I'm building node and it seems to be compiling its own embedded copy of OpenSSL? 13:24:45 <|amethyst> ??? 13:24:49 <|amethyst> I have libssl-dev 13:24:58 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:25:56 -!- Bcadren_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:06 <|amethyst> oh, my system openssl is too old for --shared-openssl 13:26:09 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:26:19 -!- lexodia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:26:53 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:26:55 <|amethyst> okay, node is installed on CSZO 13:27:30 Thought I just had: What if an rPois- race was guaranteed to get a FixedBook that contains Cure Poison (by itself)? [Similar to Deep Elves and HW wands.] Would it still be a notable weakness but counterbalanced enough to not be fatal? 13:27:58 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:28:11 <|amethyst> Heal Wounds wands can be used by everyone, spells are a bit more difficult 13:28:56 <|amethyst> since what do you do with berserkers? What about fighters? 13:29:10 |amethyst: great, thanks :) 13:29:43 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:15 |amethyst True; both would have to find their own ways away from the book to deal with poison. [Cure Pots, Trog's Hand, and Ely's Revitalization...] 13:32:22 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:32:40 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:33:21 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/charms.png 13:33:30 <|amethyst> Also, the most lethal time for poison is the time when you're least likely to be able to cast it 13:33:43 we're working on remaking all the spell icons 13:33:55 i think the idea of giving a race a drawback and also the means to counteract the drawback together is a bit silly 13:33:59 roctavian made a bunch so i decided to try my hand 13:34:01 <|amethyst> And, more fundamentally, we don't like giving special stuff like that to species; DD is a bit of an exception, and that's because no healing is much much worse than rP- 13:34:08 DD has a limit to how much it can use the wand 13:34:22 what next, give nagas a spellbook of swiftness 13:35:04 the DD wand limit is... not much of a limit to be honest 13:35:53 unless you do something silly like not going makhleb of course 13:36:04 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:16 Actually the reason rPois- is most fatal (IMO) is that you can't eat any chunks in Spider or almost any in Swamp; unless you have two sources of rPois+, really easy to starve to death...even if you had Ely to cure your poisons. 13:36:27 <|amethyst> um 13:37:06 what 13:38:02 <|amethyst> !lg * place=spider / ktyp=starvation 13:38:03 3/3169 games for * (place=spider): N=3/3169 (0.09%) 13:38:07 <|amethyst> !lg * place=swamp / ktyp=starvation 13:38:07 9/6061 games for * (place=swamp): N=9/6061 (0.15%) 13:38:12 <|amethyst> !lg * place=snake / ktyp=starvation 13:38:13 9/8250 games for * (place=snake): N=9/8250 (0.11%) 13:38:17 I've starved to death from lack of rPois in spider twice...and am more than a little annoyed you can't eat poison chunks anymore. 13:38:20 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:38:29 <|amethyst> !lg * place=spider ktyp=starvation s=name 13:38:30 3 games for * (place=spider ktyp=starvation): Tiran, Kroet, xw 13:38:39 <|amethyst> "anymore"? 13:38:41 xw 13:39:27 You used to be able to eat them without rPois, but it would give fairly bad poison. Desperation move...you can't anymore. 13:39:39 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:39:41 i don't think that was ever the case 13:39:48 <|amethyst> Bcadren_: what version? 13:40:19 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:40:49 <|amethyst> ah 13:41:00 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:16 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:43:20 xw (L19 GrBe) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 2008 (2008) (WizLab) 13:43:54 <|amethyst> 2008 is RANDOM_DEMON_LESSER 13:44:31 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:45:10 <|amethyst> I don't think poisonous chunks gave nutrition even when you could eat them 13:45:17 <|amethyst> I mean, if you weren't rP 13:45:22 wiki says it on an old page...not sure if wiki's right. "If you're resistant to poison, you get the effect of a clean chunk (note that the chunk will be displayed in white and not green if that's the case). Otherwise, you get 33% any nutrition, and you're poisoned for several turns." 13:46:15 <|amethyst> ah, I guess it was nutrition, just not much of it 13:46:49 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:16 <|amethyst> still not sure what version that was 13:47:20 I keep flipflopping on giving my Arachnetaur suggestion rPois- (and Fast I) 13:47:25 <|amethyst> 0.9 looks like it didn't give you any nutrition 13:49:54 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:50:26 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:33 -!- bmfx_ is now known as bmfx 13:52:46 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:53:05 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:53:11 It's possible to block glaciate by ToastyP 13:55:18 <|amethyst> edlothiol: and on CAO 13:58:56 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:17 |amethyst: also great ;) 13:59:49 -!- fuuu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:00:19 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:34 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:03:11 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:06:06 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:37 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:09:53 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:10:29 A staircase in D generated under a line of plants, looks like a bug 14:12:21 plants can generate on top of staircases sometimes 14:12:31 maybe they shouldn't, but it's not a bug per se 14:12:59 They can, but this is a plant vault 14:13:05 -!- LexAckson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:14:19 Doesn't mean this is a bug. But it looks strange 14:16:29 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:30 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:53 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:03 -!- GDR has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:20:20 apparently there are 142 player-castable spells in crawl 14:23:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 14:25:44 that's a lot of icons 14:30:29 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:24 -!- Guest16811 is now known as Basil 14:35:56 karate vaan venettelee räjähdyksen ulottumattomissa 14:37:07 <|amethyst> Fun fact: you can distinguish Finns typing from cats stepping on the keyboard by the lack of 'x'es 14:37:07 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:33 :) 14:37:35 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:18 What a lot of duplicate letters. 14:38:51 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:40:21 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:43:35 -!- fufumann has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:43:47 -!- notcluie is now known as badlearndbeditor 14:44:12 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Client Quit] 14:44:29 -!- badlearndbeditor is now known as uncluie 14:46:33 <|amethyst> Bloax: Finnish writes long vowels and long (geminate) consonants by doubling them 14:48:13 |amethyst: this was a very clever concept, especially since Finns developed it before the advent of the standard US keyboard layout! 14:50:36 cat's also have trouble typing ä where I'm from ... 14:50:43 heck I didn't type that either 14:50:54 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:51:18 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:09 -!- uncluie is now known as notcluie 15:04:24 -!- CacoS has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07:20 -!- Sky____ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07:23 who runs CAO? 15:08:47 rax 15:10:17 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:11:32 johnstein: yes it is 15:11:51 i would estimate we currently have 30 to 40 done 15:12:44 Grunt: fr overkill damage (the excess damage after putting the creature down to 0 hp) is displayed in the same way attack damage is displayed 15:12:55 You kill the giant newt!!!! 15:13:17 You pummel the ogre. OVERKILL!!! 15:13:24 or: 15:13:28 OGREKILL!!! 15:13:56 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:13:57 Bloax: http://imgur.com/B0HVGQN 15:14:06 (by roctavian) 15:14:06 You beat the ogre like a drum!!!!! OVERKILL!!!!! 15:14:18 fancy 15:14:28 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1000017/crawl/charms.png (by me) 15:14:51 Grunt: could it be that Gozag shops are listed twice on Ctrl-O sometimes? 15:15:20 You stab the giant newt. You kill the giant newt. 15:16:44 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:17:48 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:59 -!- Frank2368 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:19:22 !tell rax mind resetting my password in CAO? 15:19:23 TZer0: OK, I'll let rax know. 15:24:14 -!- meyeb has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:28:18 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:28:27 so what's this "gods" branch mentioned in the trunk update summary? 15:28:31 new gods on the way? 15:29:10 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:29:18 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29:53 !send Wensley gold 15:29:53 Sending gold to Wensley. 15:30:51 wheals: oh, is someone at last implement croesus, the gold god that I proposed like twenty years ago :P 15:31:25 !send Wensley storm clouds and rF+ 15:31:25 Sending storm clouds and rF+ to Wensley. 15:31:33 clearly i should implement him as a monster in his own portal branch 15:31:58 or it could be its own bailey 15:33:00 Croesus (06o) | Spd: 10 | HD: 9 | HP: 47-90 | AC/EV: 2/13 | Dam: 25 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(36) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 616 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 15:33:00 %??orc knight name:Croesus col:magenta 15:33:55 ??qazlal 15:33:55 qazlal[1/2]: The violent god of natural disasters. See: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11773 15:36:19 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:36:29 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 15:36:48 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:39:26 -!- notcluie is now known as learndbstuff 15:39:44 -!- learndbstuff is now known as notcluie 15:41:13 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:27 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:37 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:45:26 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:27 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:27 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:48:12 ??qazlal[2 15:48:13 qazlal[2/2]: http://i.imgur.com/9SGuOAk.png http://i.imgur.com/AidD6ni.png (paranatural.net) 15:48:43 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:49:44 did excruciating wounds and warp weapon get removed along with the lower ones? 15:50:48 No, those two were kept, I think 15:51:19 <|amethyst> How about a temporary reaping brand? 15:51:25 <|amethyst> Zombie Channel 15:51:56 +1 to removing brands 15:52:02 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:52:09 er, the branding spells, anyway 15:52:16 ??skald 15:52:17 skald[1/4]: A background focused on using charms to support their melee. Starts with a choice of weapon, leather armour, and a {Book of Battle}. 15:52:26 are skalds getting the axe, then? 15:52:39 No, they got a new book with new spells around last summer 15:54:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:56:19 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:01:58 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:03:48 -!- HilariousDeathAr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:05:10 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:09:27 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 16:13:10 moose (L22 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Depths:4) 16:13:47 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 16:14:30 moose (L22 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Depths:4) 16:14:37 Wensley: I don't think that Gozag is the Croesus god you proposed twenty years ago. :) (Basically all gold god propsals I've seen contained per-monster bribing.) 16:15:05 !tell Grunt I'm pretty sure that Gozag shops are listed twice on Ctrl-O sometimes (n=2 by now :). 16:15:05 dpeg: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:15:36 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:16:12 !tell Grunt Sorry, forgot half of the message: tell me if I should file on Mantis about the Gozag shops. 16:16:12 dpeg: OK, I'll let grunt know. 16:16:31 moose (L22 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Depths:4) 16:18:33 ??staff of energy 16:18:33 staff of energy[1/1]: When wielded, removes spell hunger and can be evoked for {channeling}. 16:18:54 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 16:20:43 -!- Dark is now known as Guest62237 16:21:46 -!- Guest62237 has quit [Client Quit] 16:22:53 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:27:09 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:27:24 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 16:29:32 ??"Wyrmbane" 16:29:32 I don't have a page labeled "Wyrmbane" in my learndb. 16:29:34 ??"Wyrmbane 16:29:34 "Wyrmbane ~ wyrmbane[1/2]: A scale-covered lance +9,+6 Wyrmbane {slay drac, +Rage rPois rF+ AC+5}. Base type is lance (8 dam, +4 acc, 11 delay, one handed (except for spriggans) polearm). Gains +1,+1 enchantment every time it lands the finishing blow against a {slay drac} affected monster (up to the lower of +18 or the dragon's HD). 16:29:42 iiinteresting 16:30:00 -!- syllogism has quit [] 16:30:02 someone who has crawl installed want to test this in wizmode: 16:30:21 use wyrmbane to kill a shapeshifer who is imitating a draconian 16:30:42 see wyrmbane gets double increase 16:30:56 hm. is there a good way to make a shapeshifter imitate a specific monster? 16:30:56 " The lance glows as it skewers the golden dragon. x2" 16:31:04 PleasingFungus i suspect there is but no clue 16:31:11 ok 16:31:32 i saw the x2 quite a bit when i used wyrmbane recently 16:31:40 ~ : polymorph monster to specific type 16:31:41 i assume it says it mulitple times when it gets more than one plus or something 16:31:54 simmarine so its not shapeshifters then 16:32:03 and its definitely getting double increase 16:32:08 %git 16:32:08 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-413-gc6111ba: Adjust altar placement in sprints 10(8 hours ago, 4 files, 81+ 21-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6111badf8d4 16:32:19 getting an increase when killing a shapeshifter doesn't sound so good 16:32:35 so how about this double increase, where di that come from 16:33:02 it seems to happen when you kill a normal golden dragon 16:33:12 You impale the golden dragon!! The lance glows as it skewers the golden dragon. x2 _You kill the golden dragon! 16:33:34 PleasingFungus try a normal fire dragon? 16:33:39 went from +9,6 to +11,8, so it actually is a double upgrade 16:33:44 maybe it has to do with the changed to attack code 16:33:46 fire dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 74-107 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1072 | Sp: b.flame (3d24) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 16:33:46 %??fire dragon 16:33:47 changes 16:34:10 You puncture the fire dragon! The fire dragon convulses! The lance glows as it skewers the fire dragon. x2 _You kill the fire dragon! 16:34:42 so, yep 16:34:57 so i suppose _ENUM_melee_effects is getting called twice 16:35:18 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:35:30 well it didnt use to give a double bonus 16:35:58 sure. might be worth trying a bisect, I guess 16:36:05 wheals and you're right about shapeshifters 16:36:10 or someone could wade through the melee code. ain't gonna be me, though 16:36:12 otherwise every shapeshifter = time to farm 16:37:08 So wyrmbane is called a special time as a special case. 16:37:20 It's possible that's no longer necessary with the various attack code refactors 16:37:22 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:41 s/special time/second time/ 16:37:48 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:05 yeah, i don't see why it hasn't always been like this, to be honest.... 16:45:32 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:47:10 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:47:27 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:47:55 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:48:24 my current guess is that in moving code from the melee_attack class to attack, a return that was supposed to escape and not hit wyrmbane again is getting caught 16:51:30 -!- Kvaak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:44 -!- Kvaak has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:53 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:14 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:59:22 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:01:37 %git 84f1c15 17:01:39 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2883-g84f1c15: Handle melee unrand effects after normal hit message (usually). 10(9 weeks ago, 1 file, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=84f1c1585764 17:02:08 This commit added an additional check_unrand_effects cycle that runs after brand damage has been applied 17:02:25 This now makes the special wyrmbane code in handle_phase_killed redundant. 17:02:58 I'm going to keep looking and make sure there's not any edge cases where removing the wyrmbane special case will result in it being skipped. 17:03:02 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-413-gc6111ba (34) 17:03:54 probably don't need to leave the comment there 17:04:02 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:04:15 oh nvm I misread 17:06:01 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:26 okay, the only ways to leave handle_phase_hit now all check unrand effects except for slimify and no damage, neither of which could've proc-ed wyrmbane 17:08:37 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:08:48 the special case in handle_phase_killed is now redundant 17:09:02 well, more than redundant :P 17:10:56 -!- codehero is now known as bugslayer 17:11:35 -!- bugslayer is now known as BugSlayer 17:11:46 -!- BugSlayer is now known as codehero 17:13:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:15 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:17:27 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 17:18:39 -!- enygmata has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 17:21:11 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:50 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22:00 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 17:23:51 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:24:41 rast, did you file a mantis ticket for wyrmbane? 17:24:43 dpeg here? 17:25:02 don't bother, i'm fixing it 17:25:17 oh, I already have the patch :P 17:25:19 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:25:38 I did already wade all the way through the attack code 17:26:35 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:47 It also appears that mantis #7609 is fixed, possibly by the commit I listed above. 17:28:57 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:29:56 So wheals, should I not create a mantis ticket and upload my patch? I can't tell how far you got on it. 17:30:00 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:30:34 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-414-gf66a7a8: Remove a no-longer needed special case for Wyrmbane (rast, qoala). 10(8 minutes ago, 2 files, 0+ 16-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f66a7a853492 17:30:51 nah, i got it 17:31:21 cool 17:32:11 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:33:20 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:34:19 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:39 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:42 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:45:10 -!- notcluie is now known as bad_learndb_edit 17:45:46 -!- bad_learndb_edit is now known as notcluie 17:48:00 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:19 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:49:29 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:51:03 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:27 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:55:59 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:56:45 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:41 -!- notcluie is now known as badlearndbeditor 17:57:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:58:58 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:26 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:59:51 -!- badlearndbeditor is now known as notcluie 18:00:56 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:23 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:05:10 can it be "ring of noise" instead of ring of loudness 18:05:22 ontoclasm: sounds good to me 18:06:00 does ring of noise reduce your stealth 18:06:08 because ring of noise sounds like constant shoutitis 18:06:39 yes, it's just -stealth 18:06:56 can't think of an adjective meaning "unstealthy" though 18:07:09 ring of visibility 18:07:29 ring of exposure :) 18:07:57 ring of light. I think we already have dith vetoing ?acq of those rings? 18:08:14 dpeg: can we add slimetaurs as a race? 18:08:15 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:08:24 !messages 18:08:24 No messages for gammafunk. 18:08:34 ring of conspicuousness 18:08:51 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:09:39 -!- morik has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:11:25 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:11:27 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 18:11:37 bh: there has been a non-stop barrage of species proposals, it's hard to follow. However, you're a dev, if you declare your everlasting love to the slime species, then nothing's gonna stop you from that pet peeve :) 18:11:53 (any specific ideas?) 18:12:03 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:12:07 maybe if you want to stick with something short and simple and in the same family as "loudness" without suggesting shoutitis, ring of echoes 18:12:13 Yes: A multi-tile slime species where the @ can move over the body at a superfast speed 18:12:36 The body contracts as it takes damage and you gain more slime squares as you level up 18:13:14 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:14:09 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:12 bh: sounds certainly cool, not sure how it'd play 18:14:23 also sounds like a hellish lot of work 18:14:33 -!- Basil is now known as Guest44709 18:14:36 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:55 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:24:31 ??mangrove 18:24:31 mangrove[1/1]: A tree you can't see through, too wet to make forest fires and just burns the square instead, is always hanging over water. Forms nearly all walls in Swamp. 18:24:40 So what became of mangroves? 18:27:04 <|amethyst> bh: folded back into trees 18:27:20 <|amethyst> bh: the differences (water + fires) are now based on whether you are in swamp 18:27:29 |amethyst: o_0 18:27:35 we should really move to having terrain stacks 18:27:49 rather than some silly special case silliness. 18:28:46 * bh builds xtrain and prays 18:28:58 <|amethyst> I would have kept mangroves, myself 18:29:04 <|amethyst> since they're still not the same 18:29:29 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:29:39 <|amethyst> terrain stacking would be a pretty far-reaching change 18:29:48 -!- neal___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:30:13 it's what brogue does 18:31:23 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:50 <|amethyst> we do it in tiles :) 18:33:21 <|amethyst> I mean, it's a lot of code to change. And some functions that take just a dungeon_feature_type would need to be completely redesigned 18:34:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:34:43 <|amethyst> And semantics of maps requires some design, since KFEAT currently overrides the original feature, but of course you can't have a plain altar just floating in space 18:34:54 <|amethyst> s/plain/bare/ 18:35:02 <|amethyst> or maybe you can, but that's probably not what most temples should look like :) 18:35:59 here: a corrupted altar of lugonu hanging over a chasm offering glimpses of the abyss 18:36:33 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:39 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:44 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:36:59 KFEAT could probably default to attaching the feature over a floor 18:37:30 ^ see, that could be cool 18:37:39 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:37:49 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 18:38:00 dpeg 18:38:04 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:38 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:40:34 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:41:59 |amethyst: on the note of mangroves, do you know how I could make some lua to allow the "mangroves" I place in my vault behave like those in swamp? 18:42:20 hrm, I guess the flame aspect is impossible to change via lua 18:42:47 I was thinking of just the "leaving water" part, but it'd be kind of silly to have trees that only have half of the behavior 18:42:52 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:43 <|amethyst> yeah, you'd have to generalise the swamp check somehow 18:43:45 I don't think I place any "mangroves" adjacent to each other in my vault 18:46:44 would a lua marker be available to the nuke_wall code? 18:47:52 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 18:47:59 Bcadren_: what is it? 18:51:30 <|amethyst> re wyrmbane, what if your aux kills the monster? 18:52:09 hmmm 18:52:22 -!- predator117 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:52:41 <|amethyst> %git 98895963 18:52:41 07blackcustard02 {|amethyst} * 0.13-a0-2697-g9889596: Level Wyrmbane when an auxiliary attack last hits. 10(9 months ago, 2 files, 10+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9889596317d6 18:53:35 yeah, I overlooked that one. 18:57:09 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:58:34 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:06 ugh. We can't signal to melee_effects if its already been called for this attack, and only wyrmbane is sometimes safe to call repeatedly 18:59:23 -!- Davens has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:00:51 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:01:20 I'm half tempted to say we need to add a special case into player_aux_apply 19:01:54 -!- tabstorm has joined ##crawl-dev 19:02:50 yeah I overlooked that handle_phase_killed can also be called from the aux attack code 19:02:54 -!- Ququman_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03:34 the other option I see is to add a new artfunc hook, but that'd be annoying. 19:03:55 <|amethyst> but it would let us have other artefacts that do special things on kills 19:04:06 yeah, it'd be a useful change. 19:04:09 <|amethyst> I guess zonguldrok already does 19:04:14 would be annoying to do so :P 19:04:36 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 19:04:45 Probably make it called any time the player kills something while wearing/wielding, and pass the type of kill so the unrand can decide whether or not to act 19:04:49 <|amethyst> how does zonguldrok react to aux kills I wonder 19:05:00 I assume zonguldrok ignores them currently 19:05:07 <|amethyst> hm 19:05:10 but hadn't tested it 19:05:32 reaping depends on how much damage the weapon dealt, rather than the killing blow specifically 19:05:42 <|amethyst> ah 19:05:44 -!- e1999 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:52 <|amethyst> that's right, zonguldrok is just reaping 19:06:04 <|amethyst> well, I mean, it has the other thing, but that's not based on hitting things 19:06:06 and passive animate dead in _world_reacts 19:06:07 yeah 19:06:16 which isn't dependent on its attacks 19:06:22 yeah 19:06:31 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:08:18 <|amethyst> what I would like to see is a convenient way to do artefact hooks in lua 19:08:45 you mean have the hooks defined in lua rather than art-func.h? 19:08:53 <|amethyst> I guess it's possible now if you write your own glue code 19:08:53 <|amethyst> yes 19:09:07 <|amethyst> or at least make that possible 19:09:13 -!- MgDark has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 19:09:38 -!- qoala_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:16 <|amethyst> if you, say, do void (*_FOOBAR_melee_effects)(item_def*,actor*,actor*,bool,int) = _dlua_melee_effects_wrapper 19:11:08 Would we end up needing to expose a bunch of functions to lua in order to get the effects we want? 19:11:26 Or would this be in addition to the C++ hooks to make adding unrands easier for simpler things? 19:11:31 <|amethyst> In addition 19:12:06 yeah, that'd be pretty cool if we could get it working. 19:12:16 <|amethyst> I think you're right would require more stuff in the dlua API to do most things 19:12:48 dlua is just the more privileged lua environment, not just dungeon builder right? 19:12:51 -!- OCTOTROG1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:14 <|amethyst> right 19:13:23 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:28 <|amethyst> for example, currently dlua can read the pluses etc from an item, but AFAIK can't set them 19:13:41 ah 19:13:54 <|amethyst> which would allow several existing artefacts to be converted to Lua 19:14:34 <|amethyst> I guess, since unrands require enums and hence a recompile anyway, there might not be that much benefit 19:16:11 qoala: re: KFEAT default: my vault making days are basically gone (though I want to make a new portal vault these days) but I definitely support that. It's a good idea! 19:17:16 dpeg: that idea was mainly relevant in the event we implement feature stacks. Otherwise, the presence or absence of floor underneath things doesn't matter as much 19:18:10 |amethyst: I was under the impression that implementing lua code may be easier for people with less of a coding background? 19:18:24 -!- Ultragnash has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:18:31 -!- hugaraxia has quit [Quit: hugs!] 19:18:41 qoala: IIRC, there have always been issues with missing KTYPE statements 19:19:17 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:20:57 wait, which one was KTYPE? 19:21:04 -!- nicolae- has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:55 I recall I had to add a number of KFEAT to KITEM/KMONS because the default wasn't floor (yes, this is not quite what you're suggesting -- sorry, wiki-editing at the same time :) 19:23:50 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:37 ah, yes. maybe a way to specify a default KFEAT for a vault would be nice, but I expect a good number will want to place monsters on both floor and water/lava 19:25:20 -!- qoala has quit [] 19:27:28 maybe some sort of block, in which every KITEM or KMONS auto applies the specified KFEAT? 19:28:00 yes, stuff like that would make .des a little easier 19:29:14 back in my day we didn't have fancy .des tricks like that 19:29:30 we walked fifteen miles, in the snow, uphill both ways, to edit files directly with a tiny magnet 19:32:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:34:35 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:27 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-415-gdbbd74f: Nerf throwing (#8493). 10(16 minutes ago, 2 files, 31+ 31-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbbd74f5e0fc 19:39:40 i'm glad that we've gotten a couple new gods in recent versions but the downside is the flood of god ideas 19:40:05 fr: an option for fsim to explicitly pick ranged/melee 19:40:09 (so that I don't do this again) 19:40:53 nicolae-: tiny magnet = notepad (in my case) 19:40:56 oh, grunt, i sent you some bugs 19:41:08 i use a thing called ultraedit, which is cool but i've never seen anyone else ever mention it 19:41:12 nicolae-: god proposals are alright, it's just that someone gotta read 'em :) 19:41:50 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:41:59 wow, good bug 19:42:02 I used to love ultraedit 19:42:04 one of these days i should bother writing up one of my own god ideas. the problem is that most of my god ideas are "god of " rather than straightforward, like, "god of poison" or whatever 19:42:29 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:30 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: computer sleeping] 19:42:32 ultraedit's column mode is Super Great for vaults 19:42:43 !tell grunt NarcissusIII(aka UNKILLABLE): tell grunt Qazlal is my new favorite god ever 19:42:43 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 19:43:01 mmmmmmmm 19:43:10 I haven't used UE in like 13 years.. 19:43:36 Maybe like 12 19:45:28 Grunt: i noticed a bug with gozag, i don't know if it's just a wizmode thing BUT if you switch to another god while doing a bribe you still have the bribe status 19:46:20 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46:36 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:46:41 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night] 19:47:54 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:49:04 -!- Ultragnash has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:49:06 Grunt: you can still poison things by wielding a bow of venom and throwing unbranded darts 19:49:49 since apply_damage_brand checks for using_weapon() or LRET_THROWN, and then checks that you're wielding a ranged weapon 19:49:55 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:50:14 dpeg 19:50:48 -!- MiraclePrism has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:49 Time in Germany: 2:50am 19:50:51 dpeg I just. probably weirdest idea yet. incomplete and I'm not sure I can complete it...but...it's worth the weird though 19:52:50 grunt: i found a bug where you cant ta allies 19:52:57 if the target is not in the line of fire of you 19:53:59 <|amethyst> %bug 5074 19:53:59 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5074 19:56:34 -!- Guest44709 is now known as Basil 19:57:58 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:58:15 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-398-ga931dc8: Don't show Bribe light after abandoning Gozag (nicolae). 10(40 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a931dc8bdb14 19:58:16 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-416-g6a5a94f: Don't apply ranged weapon brand if not using the weapon (MarvinPA). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=6a5a94f4b904 19:59:00 Bcadren_: bth, I stopped reading your proposals when you suggested removing Trog. No idea what you've been thinking there. 19:59:06 bth = tbh 20:02:19 Grunt: while you're here, a new qazlal (literal) overflow altar: http://pastebin.com/TUtn6UZ9 20:02:55 nicolae-: <3 20:03:28 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:04:49 Was in a foul modd and never would use trog myself...except early game, plan to switch later 20:07:25 !tell Grunt narcissusiii was trampled into a qazlal cloud and it didn't displace, hence he was forced to stand in the cloud 20:07:25 gammafunk: OK, I'll let grunt know. 20:07:54 Bcadren_: you should give thought about how your proposals depict yourself. It's hard for me to take god proposals serious of someone who suggesting deiciding Trog. 20:08:04 gammafunk: that's how it's supposed to work afaik 20:08:13 probably it could do with a message when it happens or something, at least 20:08:46 yeah, something for force more messages I guess 20:09:08 Grunt: How strong are throwing large rocks at 27 throwing now 20:09:10 qazlal was nice enough to give rc+ after a bit, at least 20:11:46 Trog could stand to be more unique. Everything offered is also either 100% available elsewhere or extremely similar to something available elsewhere...Same used to be true of Oka, then Might became Heroism and Haste became Finesse. 20:12:41 Bcadren_: anything can be improved. You suggested removal without any good reason, and with a history of suggesting much more complicated and/or much less well-defined gods. 20:14:12 -!- pox1 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 20:14:28 xom roars with laughter 20:14:40 16% borg... rip 20:15:40 I don't think (at very least) such an extreme start and offering that as the easy start for new players; forgetting half the game as easy. 20:16:31 (Also: Trog used to give Berserk and Might, and no Hand and no Brothers and no book burning. Of course more could be done, but "everything 100% available elsewhere": berserk allies?, weapons biased towards anti-magic and to-dam?. Berserk is an extremely interesting tactical effect, one of the best, imo. 20:17:07 anyway, it matters little for I don't post much these days 20:17:33 Also trog berserk isn't quite the same as regular berserk (Trog extends it on kills, so it becomes a more interesting tactic to use) 20:17:49 yes, sure 20:18:12 Keanan so do +/* Berserk ego items; it's only !berserk that doesn't. 20:18:19 That's untrue. 20:18:33 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-399-gdff7b9d: A literal Qazlal overflow altar (nicolae). 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 28+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dff7b9d91d5c 20:19:06 Ego items do nothing on kill. 20:19:07 ??berserk 20:19:07 berserk[1/7]: Grants {might}, {haste} and 50% extra HP. Lasts 20-40 turns, as long as you're attacking monsters. This duration increases on kills if wearing an {amulet of rage} or worshipping {Trog}. 20:19:11 only the unrand amulet also extends berserk, and it's still less so than Trog 20:19:25 Yes, that's true. 20:19:34 it's an unrand not just amulets with +/*? 20:19:38 Correct. 20:19:54 Berserkitis gies you a longer base duratiion though 20:20:27 That's true, and not the same as being able to sustain a berserk by killing popcorm 20:21:12 But better...against uniques, especially Pan/Hell-lords. 20:21:48 This blowgun seems to guide the needle to seek the most lethal point to hit the target, packing a nasty punch. 20:21:56 it's also not in fact true 20:22:22 Ah, I was misremembering. 20:23:24 Decreases the paralysis chance and Slow length, not actual berserk duration (looked it up) 20:23:48 perhaps you should look these things up before you make nonsense claims 20:23:50 instead of afterwards 20:23:57 might be better as "This blowgun's needles seem to strike vulnerable spots unusually often." 20:25:14 Or maybe "This blowgun guides its needles, sometimes striking vulnerable spots even on opponents capable of protecting themselves." 20:26:38 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 20:27:02 idk the current thing is kind of a run-on 20:28:18 yeah, i couldn't think of a really good description 20:28:33 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:29:03 the description you wrote gets the point across (so to speak), it's just a little rough. 20:29:34 -!- ToastyP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:29:40 simm (L15 OgAM) (Orc:3) 20:29:43 hahaha 20:29:45 !crashlog simm 20:29:45 11. simm, XL15 OgAM, T:25317 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/simm/crash-simm-20140505-012937.txt 20:29:56 its probably fixed already 20:30:04 i was just curious how much damage i would do to myself with the throwing bug 20:30:22 ...yeah 20:30:35 good stack trace 20:31:03 simm (L15 OgAM) (Orc:3) 20:31:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 20:31:51 -!- Sleep-Muta has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:33:27 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36:28 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:36:42 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:44 -!- rast- is now known as rast 20:37:29 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:45 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-400-g33fec83: A couple of dual-god overflow altars containing G or Q. 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 67+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=33fec83b29eb 20:47:47 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-400-g33fec83 20:47:47 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-400-g33fec83 20:47:47 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:47:57 good timing 20:48:20 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:49:52 ? 20:49:54 -!- valkrierider has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:50:21 <|amethyst> wheals: the build was faster than chei :) 20:51:28 Grunt: in your opinion, what areas need vaults, besides god overflows and tomb subvaults 20:52:42 nicolae-: hm, I'd have to go and look 20:54:16 fr: stone arrows 20:56:31 to go with iron bolt? 20:57:17 yes, rename steel to iron 20:59:13 mmmmmmmm iron bolts 20:59:26 (clearly have the steel brand name change for various projectiles) 20:59:32 stone arrows, iron bolts, ... 20:59:42 magic darts? 20:59:46 <3 21:00:08 rename javelin throwing spear, make it "crystal" for them 21:00:28 i remember reading that the ranged reform might possibly allow you to combine the brand of a launcher and missile, did that get shot down 21:00:47 As implemented, only elemental brands cancel out right now. 21:01:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:24 so you can do nessos-style arrows if you have a venom launcher and flaming bolts? 21:01:28 oh, penetration and steel stack? 21:01:29 No. 21:01:33 ah. 21:01:38 No to nicolae-, yes to rchandra. 21:01:56 dpeg: you can't use 'begs the question' like that 21:02:27 bh: ah, interesting 21:02:36 dpeg does not accept questions from beggars like you! 21:03:05 I am sure I've read "begs the question" somewhere (that's how I get my English, after all). 21:03:14 if there's no P god, randgods can be P, just in case :) 21:03:42 dpeg: it's misused probably more than it's used correctly 21:03:48 rchandra: that's fine, only that randgods are, um, very far in the very distant future :) 21:04:04 true, but english being what it is that makes it used correctly again :) 21:04:07 randgods... 21:04:11 randgods can go on @ 21:04:25 @shenzari 21:04:28 dpeg: Native speakers misuse "begs the question" like they're getting paid to do it 21:04:29 ontoclasm: oh, no doubt that I am reading bad sources, too. (My early English training came from 8bit video games, death metal lyrics and go books.) 21:04:29 how about * 21:04:31 randgods should go on " and have their names always written in quotes like "Pshtavla" or whatever 21:04:40 we do get paid to do it, actually 21:04:48 the Committee to Overthrow English sends me checks monthly 21:04:50 anyway, /away 21:05:11 nicolae-: this ("Roxypurzl" as randgod name) is what I suggested too 21:05:19 now that I'm back, I'm willing to work on randgods again. currently taking random bugs to catch up on the current code 21:05:19 bh: bye! 21:05:29 qoala_: oh, whoa whoa 21:05:32 my poor heart 21:05:37 s/taking/tackling 21:05:40 dpeg: it's probably where i got the idea 21:06:14 -!- evilmike has quit [] 21:06:28 Random bugs for the randgods! 21:06:40 qoala_: I am seriously stoked. Send me an email whenever you feel like it. Also, when you feel like I am flaking, don't hesitate to use bad words and brute force to keep me going. 21:07:16 dpeg: don't die. 21:08:26 rchandra: I cannot die. My children cannot fly yet, Lugonites can't desecrate altars and random gods cannot walk. 21:09:06 <|amethyst> Lugonites can desecrate altars, just not individually and it doesn't actually piss anyone off :) 21:09:14 lucindas can desecrate altars with corrupt! 21:09:35 note to self: ensure that random gods can never get any ability that could be construed as "walking" 21:09:47 |amethyst: it's no fun if nobody is pissed off! 21:09:54 we don't want you to die :P 21:09:56 <|amethyst> The gods are walking, hopping, and crawling! 21:12:15 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:12:17 -!- GetiLife has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:12:26 Pronyxxia the Bipedal 21:12:33 qoala_: don't worry :) For now, I'd be happy if people tell me about the identification stuff. (See c-r-d.) As far as I know, it's never been discussed from bottom up, so I tried to get something going. 21:12:38 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13:19 okay, i think i've done all the charms i can think of 21:13:25 what school should i do next 21:13:34 (not the elements, roc has those) 21:13:51 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-401-gee6fb53: Allow running (shift-moving) through Qazlal clouds (MarvinPA). 10(2 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee6fb53a701e 21:14:46 the idea of randgods sounds awesome 21:15:42 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:16:04 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:17:24 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-402-gf17ac56: Don't let Upheaval lava-ify walls temporarily. 10(86 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f17ac56ed7c9 21:17:48 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-402-gf17ac56 21:17:52 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-402-gf17ac56 21:18:30 fr lugonites can corrupt altars to gain piety with lugonu but get penance from the god 21:18:48 i think that's what dpeg's dream is, actually 21:18:53 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:19:07 Though that brings up the question of why it doesn't piss them off when you corrupt using corrupt 21:19:26 I guess that could be implemented, but it would mean corrupting the temple is hilarious. 21:19:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:10 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:15 Would random and changing conducts for Xom be cool 21:20:37 Xom is now forbidding the use of chokos and endorsing the use of clubs 21:20:39 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:53 ok, that sounds fun 21:21:23 But it has the oldxom problem of most the time it doesn't do anything 21:22:07 -!- Spatzist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:22:18 i thought about random and changing conducts for a god once, a god of fear and phobias whose current Biggest Fear constantly changes so the things you have to kill or do to gain piety change accordingly. i figured it'd probably be annoying in practice, though. 21:23:33 If you actually choose what you kill rather than just killing all the dudes, it would matter. 21:24:06 fr turn crawl into brogue 21:24:20 combine them into brawl 21:25:29 A combination might actually have a serious chance of popularity because it would involve removing TONS of stuff. 21:25:37 Everyone loves it when stuff gets removed in crawl. 21:25:38 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:27:08 especially Gimli 21:27:13 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:27:51 that reminds me 21:28:01 what race is due to go the way of Djinn next? 21:28:24 no standout candidate yet, as far as I know 21:28:25 I heard something about Lightlis being on the chopping block. 21:28:27 I don't think any current races have the djinn problem 21:28:57 also, Djinn never existed in a release, so they were never removed 21:28:57 !dump xenene 21:28:58 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xenene/Xenene.txt 21:29:01 Seriously, this is ridiculous 21:29:18 Grunt: gasp 21:29:21 I don't know what's causing it but Gargoyles are legitimately hated by Xom for their racial mutations 21:29:27 -!- horsik has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:29:41 are you certain that's not intended behavior? 21:29:45 yes 21:30:09 how is that legitimate if it's not intended 21:30:23 I don't reasonably expect to find myself crippled for choosing a race with good mutations, or crippled in any way, as a Xom player 21:30:37 I meant legitimate in the sense that it's true 21:30:41 Not in the sense that it's reasonable 21:31:07 I guess there's never been a race with so many good mutations before 21:31:14 I definitely noticed stuff like this in the reverse on Ogres 21:31:14 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:31:25 They regularly get great mutations and avoid bad ones 21:31:35 maybe Xom shouldn't be looking at the racials ... 21:31:47 Doesn't benmut do something similar 21:32:23 I believe Xom shouldn't 21:32:25 I just got Frail 1 21:32:43 I've tested this about ten or fifteen times online and about twenty offline with Wizmode 21:32:57 On the other hand, Ogres get epic mutations a lot 21:33:02 Robust is a good one on Ogres 21:34:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:35:03 -!- Poncheis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:38:32 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-416-g6a5a94f (34) 21:39:55 -!- Lightli_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:10 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:40:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:43:07 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 21:43:16 -!- netkitten has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:44:43 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:45:22 -!- enygmata has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:18 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:51:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:52:15 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:55:18 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:56:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 21:57:02 -!- Lightli_ is now known as Lightli 21:59:48 -!- alefury has quit [] 22:00:11 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:15 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:02:22 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:02:46 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:48 -!- lasserith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:03:02 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-417-g68d6119: Crystal plate tiles (Bloax) 10(3 days ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=68d61192d88d 22:03:02 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-418-g2bb6d35: Javelin tiles 10(4 minutes ago, 15 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2bb6d35b585c 22:04:14 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:12:21 Dagoth (L15 MiFi) (Lair:1) 22:13:02 maybe I should rebuild cszo to stop that crash 22:13:48 -!- Lyrick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:15:11 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:15:29 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-418-g2bb6d35 (34) 22:16:43 (wow how did we get that many commits in 0.15 already) 22:17:12 0.15 tourney will have to be in june 22:17:14 418 commits come into view. 22:17:36 The commit croaks! x306 22:17:44 You hear a croak! x72 22:18:10 does ranged_combat count as one or many commits, there? 22:18:22 rchandra: each commit on ranged_combat counts, and there's also a merge commit 22:23:24 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:24:55 -!- tcsc has quit [Quit: bye!] 22:28:14 -!- qoala_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:29:53 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:17 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:33:30 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:34 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:59 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:42:37 how does this sound 22:42:52 Rod of materials: induces various changes in material depending on what you use it on 22:43:05 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:15 Red_Bucket: such as? 22:43:27 cut off your legs and get metal legs, IVAN-style 22:43:47 Casts stone skin on allies, petrify on enemies, downgrades the material type of non-rock walls, destroys closed doors, wallifies open doors, breaks statues. destroys rock walls 22:44:02 So lots of stuff 22:44:41 terrain modification is kind of iffy in terms of how much the devs want in the game, downgrading stone to rock would make a lot of vaults tons easier 22:44:57 Oh right, repeatable dungeon alteration 22:45:09 This would work better as a wand but it's too weird for a wand 22:45:53 plus a lot of the effects seem inconsistent, sometimes it makes things more solid and rocklike, sometimes less solid and rocklike 22:46:16 Yeah, I'm trying too much with one thing, I was just focused on coolness 22:46:32 (don't focus on "coolness" fyi) 22:47:33 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:47:44 i did have an idea for an unrand hammer or mace that petrifies things on hit, the flavor was that it once belonged to a sculptor reknowned for the amazing detail and life-like-ness of his statues until it was discovered that his statues looked an awful lot like missing persons 22:47:49 -!- Krakhan|2 is now known as Krakhan 22:47:49 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 22:49:11 It should also leave statues on death like glaciate 22:50:11 Would boots that evoke for knight-jump be too nethack-like? 22:50:28 almost certainly 22:53:39 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-419-g2323827: Recolor some dragon armours (tabstorm) 10(4 minutes ago, 4 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=23238270265c 22:55:24 -!- kayhoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:55:55 Apparently glaciate is blockable 22:56:07 How does a screw up like that happen 22:57:03 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:58:34 probably criminal negligence, in my opinion. 22:58:38 I'll start the class action suit. 22:58:48 -!- Zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:59:44 Red_Bucket: what exactly is wrong with that 23:00:38 I've never seen somebody walk out into a blizzard IRL naked with nothing but a shield, and manage to avoid frostbite that way. 23:01:27 it's weird that beams aren't blockable with shields, but glaciate, a much wider multi-target effect, is 23:01:42 the reasoning with beams is that they pierce targets, so it makes sense that they'd also pierce shields 23:01:58 glaciate goes through multiple targets, but it doesn't go through shields? 23:02:00 idk 23:02:13 did you know that primal wave is blockable 23:02:19 fr just make everything blockable 23:02:32 -!- qoala_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:08 wheals: I did not! that's single-target, though, right? 23:03:13 like the phial of floods effect? 23:03:17 (is it literally the same effect?) 23:03:34 i'm not sure whether it's single-target, i guess it is though 23:04:00 ??primal wave 23:04:00 primal wave[1/1]: A merfolk aquamancer and elemental wellspring spell that does a lot of damage, creates water, and knocks you back. No longer able to hurl the PC into deep water, or destroy staircases. :( 23:04:07 good :( 23:04:12 (good sad face) 23:04:20 but 23:04:28 unknown monster: "elemental wellspring" 23:04:28 %??elemental wellspring 23:04:47 !learn edit primal wave[1 s/ and elemental wellspring// 23:04:47 primal wave[1/1]: A merfolk aquamancer spell that does a lot of damage, creates water, and knocks you back. No longer able to hurl the PC into deep water, or destroy staircases. :( 23:06:34 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-420-ga542483: Remove spriggan enchanters. 10(19 minutes ago, 18 files, 5+ 118-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5424833455d 23:06:34 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-421-g2c9acd7: Remove the negative melee slaying on gloves of archery. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2c9acd788146 23:06:39 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:24 first the enchanter, then the assassin 23:07:31 wheals: THANK YOU 23:07:37 (First they came for the assassin...) 23:07:44 you could say 23:07:47 the enchanter 23:07:50 was assassinated 23:08:03 -!- kilobyte_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:08:41 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:09:33 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:44 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 23:09:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09:54 -!- kilobyte has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:39 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:39 wheals: no justification for gloves of archery buff in the commit message? also, you missed a spot :) 23:11:40 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/describe.cc;hb=HEAD#l1324 23:11:48 whoops meant to use !source for that 23:13:46 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:15:22 -!- bones__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:15:41 -!- bones__ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:03 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-422-ga1a3441: Description update (PleasingFungus). 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1a34412461d 23:21:38 excellent 23:29:12 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 23:31:15 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:10 hey 23:32:14 lately I've been seeing a lot of dead end doors 23:32:18 and doors out of place, near vaults 23:32:20 http://i.imgur.com/nM1VAK1.png example 23:32:29 I think it has something to do with the inaccessible vault change that was committed a while ago 23:32:40 should I submit a bug report to mantis or what? 23:36:22 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:49 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:57 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:40:01 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as PleasingFungus 23:41:23 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-423-g5707d59: Don't limit the number of volleys a manticore can make. 10(3 minutes ago, 3 files, 1+ 13-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5707d5900630 23:45:40 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:47:44 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:50:17 -!- ActinalWhomp has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:52:31 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:52:36 Brannock: looks like a good idea 23:52:48 will they want a save or what 23:54:15 if you can, saves often help 23:56:02 How do I get a save from online play? I play cszo 23:56:14 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:56:32 you will need to log into console 23:56:44 then access the advanced menu from the relevant version 23:56:56 option A on that version's menu 23:57:24 then you'll see the save backup option 23:57:42 %git :/ potion of lignfication 23:57:43 Could not find commit :/ potion of lignfication (git returned 128) 23:57:51 %git :/lignfication 23:57:53 Could not find commit :/lignfication (git returned 128) 23:57:59 %git :/ potion of lignification 23:58:00 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-1056-gfe8841e: Fix quaffing potion of lignification not being chaotic 10(5 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=fe8841e97c3c 23:58:11 %git :/add potion of lignification 23:58:12 Could not find commit :/add potion of lignification (git returned 128) 23:58:53 %git:/potion of wood 23:59:14 -!- bones__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59:51 It's f40d9dc85920c jfyi