00:00:39 looks like you're standing in a cloud of steam 00:00:46 -!- MgDark has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:00:49 doh 00:00:55 guess I should move 00:00:58 gammafunk: The Xcode project file is indeed irrelevant to whether make mac-app-tiles works or not. 00:01:00 -!- MgDark_ is now known as MgDark 00:01:13 gammafunk: I think it might help with editting the Crawl w/Xcode though? 00:01:54 Oh, and I can only guarrenttee that for my mac because apple is silly. 00:04:19 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-360-gf5e0bc2 (34) 00:04:47 oh yeah, I suppose there is that 00:05:02 well it looks like the file is auto-generated somehow 00:05:21 as in manually updating it isn't really a thing 00:05:36 gammafunk: Well It had been manually updated in the past. 00:05:38 did you find a script for it? 00:06:08 If it's autogenerated I imagine the best thing to do would be drop it from the repository completely. 00:06:13 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 00:06:46 hrm, running a find/grep for it is a good idea, let me do that 00:08:22 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 00:09:50 it seems that the only other references to xcode are project files in contribe, eg: 00:09:53 contrib/sdl/Xcode/SDLTest/SDLTest.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj 00:10:06 s/contribe/contrib/ 00:10:17 I'm guessing then that the project file is just not used anymore 00:12:03 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:13:03 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 00:18:10 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:23:44 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:25:22 Why does lost_soul_spectralize set the monster's god to GOD_NAMELESS? 00:25:44 I'd think Yred might still be able to serve a spectral death knight? 00:27:16 -!- Thalfon has quit [] 00:29:23 so it doesn't become a player ally? 00:30:06 ? 00:30:24 grunt: it seems like I really am seeing 'you are standing in a cloud of steam' a lot more. maybe it's because I'm in swamp tonight. 00:30:30 Zannick: Yes, when wuld that happen. 00:30:36 s/wuld/would/ 00:30:41 grunt: happens when I autoexplore or rest 00:30:44 Yreddites don't turn undead enemies that also worship Yred, do they? 00:30:44 i don't know how god stuff interacts 00:30:54 qoala: No. 00:31:03 Yreds do not turn undead enemies 00:31:18 then i don't know 00:31:21 grunt: if I move away towards a spot with another one of my clouds, it warns me on whether I really want to do that. if I say yes, that cloud hurts me instead of trading places with me 00:31:42 grunt: should I write up a bug? or is it better mentioning it in here since it's experimental? 00:31:56 It explicitly set it to NAMELESS, but using an is_good_god check similar to player ghosts might be appropriate? 00:33:03 johnstein: you can't displace a cloud if you're in a cloud. 00:33:03 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:08 qoala: Where is this code anyway? mon-ability.cc? 00:33:11 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:13 -!- rast- is now known as rast 00:33:20 yeah 00:33:22 mon-abil.cc 00:33:29 lost_soul_spectralize 00:33:33 so is that what's happening to me? 00:33:40 I'm looking at https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8487 00:33:48 I don't remember getting so many messages and having autoexplore and resting get interrupted 00:34:48 johnstein: put on some rF <_< 00:34:54 :p 00:35:00 sometimes I get some for free! 00:35:37 why are cloud spaces getting on my space? 00:35:59 Steam? 00:36:08 yea 00:36:17 You know, I don't see the point of that either. Does anybody object to just givin the spectral things the same god as their souce monster? 00:36:19 I guess it's only steam so far. maybe that's only what it is 00:36:24 Your fire clouds are placing on water, causing steam. 00:36:29 oh 00:36:39 how far is the steam radius? 00:36:46 I'm not sure if there's any MH_NATURAL monsters that spawn with a good god 00:36:52 * johnstein never measured it 00:37:11 pearl dragon (08D) | Spd: 12 | HD: 18 | HP: 96-139 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 3508(holy), 2008(holy) | 08holy, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(168), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 3724 | Sp: holy breath (3d36) | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 00:37:11 %??pearl dragon 00:37:13 hm 00:37:41 I guess I understand better. but it's still kinda frustrating to keep getting interrupted. I can't think of a simple solution 00:37:47 cept DEAL WITH IT 00:38:49 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:39:14 apis (16Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 95-141 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 4008(holy) | 08holy | Res: 06magic(106), 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 1345 | Sz: Big | Int: animal. 00:39:14 %??apis 00:39:21 !send johnstein rF++ 00:39:22 Sending rF++ to johnstein. 00:39:33 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:36 johnstein: did you claim your 6* yet? 00:39:44 not yet 00:39:51 figure I should wait till later 00:40:02 to see what I really need 00:40:11 but my piety keeps dropping below 6 00:40:33 do I still get to get my reward if I don't get it at 6* but try later at 5*? 00:40:33 qoala: Only found this: 00:40:34 // [ds] Vault defs can request priest monsters of unusual types. 00:40:41 ah 00:40:43 Otherwise, no natural monsters have good gods. 00:41:02 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:41:17 paladin (16@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 46-81 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 26 | 08holy, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter | Res: 06magic(40), 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 815 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 00:41:17 %0.10?paladin 00:41:21 rip 00:41:25 Might be reasonable to just apply the same logic as for player ghosts to try and head off spectrals of TSO. 00:41:46 Or maybe just have spectral ignore good god worshippers. 00:41:48 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:41:50 and not revive them. 00:41:57 that'd be a reasonable choice too 00:42:07 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:42:23 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-361-g57c744d: Simplify. 10(57 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=57c744dcba1d 00:42:23 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-362-gc0af413: Add a comment to util/unbrace. 10(57 seconds ago, 1 file, 21+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0af4134ef13 00:42:52 Saves us the effort of figuring out why the spectral holy priest smites you with the power of NO GOD/NAMELESS 00:43:11 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 00:43:27 hooray, |amethyst removed literally my most hated code idiom 00:43:30 my hero 00:46:50 If (alreadynottrue) return notalreadynotnottrue 00:48:09 * Grunt calls down the wrath of NO GOD against NONEXISTENT COE. 00:48:18 s/COE/FOE/ 00:48:20 COE is the only international professional organization uniting the users of Dassault Systèmes software. With thousands of users in hundreds of member companies, there is no better support community. Learn More! 00:48:41 (I got that while testing something on e.) 00:48:45 *once 00:48:50 wow 00:48:59 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-363-g9514a6a: Remove an obsolete comment. 10(37 seconds ago, 1 file, 2+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9514a6a4f6a5 00:49:01 time to go to bed? 00:50:37 we use Dassault software at work 00:50:39 CATIA ftw 00:50:45 and ENOVIA 00:50:53 luckily I don't do work that requires that 00:52:20 drag0n (L27 DEFE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:20) 00:53:51 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:36 New branch created: brace-yourselves (1 commit) 00:54:36 03|amethyst02 07[brace-yourselves] * 0.15-a0-364-g1134c3b: Add braces on multi-line ifs/fors. 10(71 minutes ago, 43 files, 137+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1134c3b086f9 00:55:50 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:59:29 Good branch name. 00:59:35 !crashlog drag0n 00:59:35 6. drag0n, XL27 DEFE, T:81404 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/drag0n/crash-drag0n-20140503-055218.txt 01:01:39 <|amethyst> chimera something 01:01:41 haha 01:02:11 someone asked 'why are chimera still in the game' 01:05:18 because without them there wouldnt be enough evopkables that make guys 01:05:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:05:49 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:17 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 01:06:36 No wonder that lost soul bug existed so long - it's really hard to get the monsters to say anything in paricular. 01:08:53 I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. I'm trying to test a lost soul reviving a "human god:elyvilon spells:minor_healing hd:10" without my changes. 01:08:57 And they keep ignoring it. 01:09:30 qoala: Yes, I've been trying to do the exact same thing. 01:09:53 w/Spriggan berserkers and Death Knights. 01:10:10 I eventually got it to duplicated the berserker, but I couldn't get it to say anything. 01:10:16 or cast any spells 01:10:25 xD should work 01:11:03 oh 01:11:05 oops 01:11:15 I stashed my changes, but didn't rebuild crawl 01:11:22 That's why it wouldn't revive the healer 01:11:38 It just revived a death knight that successfully worships Yred 01:11:59 Cool 01:12:25 "The spectral human offers itself to Yredelemnul, and fills with unholy energy." 01:12:33 qoala: Ok, glad it's working. 01:12:40 Does that include the "no good gods" bit? 01:13:05 Yeah, that's why the human healer I wiz-created using monspec was ignored by the lost souls 01:13:22 I should add the god-check to the function lost souls use to determine if they want to stick around 01:14:39 qoala: I would just add the god-check to _lost_soul_affectable( 01:14:46 since that's called by all the other functions 01:15:59 I also put it in the _monster_avoided_death check, since a lot of the logic is there as well 01:16:07 even though I think it might beredundant 01:16:13 that's where I put the check first 01:16:54 Is that in mon-abil.cc 01:16:58 mon-death 01:17:22 I started by looking for where the death code checked lost souls, then followed it from there 01:17:23 I would absoultely not be redundant, violates DRY 01:17:40 Yeah 01:18:05 I hadn't found _lost_soul_affectable until trying to figure out why it wasn't reviving things 01:18:06 qoala: Hmm, I just look around where mi->god = NAMELESS happened. 01:18:41 Yeah, I didn't expect it to explicitly set lost soul spectrals to god NAMELESS when I started 01:18:53 couldn't remember the default god when not initialized 01:19:00 have since remembered NO_GOD 01:19:30 -!- FiftyNine has quit [] 01:19:38 qoala: Hmm, didn't even realize those were seperate. 01:19:45 drag0n (L27 DEFE) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1441: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:24) 01:20:25 qoala: In any case I'm going to bed now, we've had a nice conversation. 01:20:45 good night 01:20:46 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:20:51 Bye! 01:20:56 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:21:29 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:26:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:31:54 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:33:54 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:37:18 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:40:30 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:42:33 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:32 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:45:37 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:52:23 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:56 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 01:58:52 -!- dtsundere has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:04 -!- dtsund has quit [Disconnected by services] 01:59:05 -!- dtsundere is now known as dtsund 02:00:03 <|amethyst> nice, this works pretty well 02:01:06 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:02:22 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:02:47 -!- Phoenix8413 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:34 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:51 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-364-g8837b82: Unbrace: automatically add braces. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 32+ 20-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8837b8289f65 02:13:12 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-365-gea0369d: Don't unbrace prebuilt sources. 10(22 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=ea0369d30b8d 02:13:14 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:15:44 -!- EriktheRed___ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16:37 03|amethyst02 07[brace-yourselves] * 0.15-a0-365-g4defd5e: Embrace automation. 10(58 seconds ago, 59 files, 202+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4defd5e7eb88 02:16:48 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-381-gf3affeb 02:19:48 -!- chthon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:18 -!- fearitself has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:33 <|amethyst> oops 02:23:40 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-365-gea0369d (34) 02:33:01 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:23 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:38 What would be an appropriate behaviour for volcano_caves if collapsing the ceiling on a monster? 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The throwing net hits Ilsuiw. Ilsuiw is caught in the net! 03:32:56 Ilsuiw struggles against the net. 03:32:58 Ilsuiw mumbles some strange words. 03:33:00 _Ilsuiw blinks! 03:33:08 ..but he didn't actually blink. he's still caught in the net 03:33:15 the message should be different IMO 03:33:36 -!- Phoenix8413 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:41:51 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:18 Is there a convenient way to alter a feature's properties in lua? Specifically, to add blood. 03:55:04 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:55:31 oh, I think that's what fprop_changed does 03:56:14 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58:41 -!- Bayushi has quit [Client Quit] 03:59:48 -!- Xenorbeeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:13:21 -!- Phoenix8413 has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 04:17:49 -!- Phoenix8413 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:25 -!- Phoenix8413 has quit [Client Quit] 04:32:38 -!- FourHTwoA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:33:13 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:37 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:47:08 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 04:47:24 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 04:52:42 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:57:45 -!- eb has quit [] 05:00:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 05:03:27 !seen Grunt 05:03:27 I last saw Grunt at Sat May 3 08:06:51 2014 UTC (1h 56m 36s ago) joining the channel. 05:26:48 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:30:48 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:00 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:48 -!- elmdor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:58:57 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:48 -!- palacebeast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:02:20 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:04:23 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:35 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 06:12:42 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15:31 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:30 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:25:04 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:25:08 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 06:32:23 Ice Cave message spam. by Ahrin 06:33:33 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:33:52 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:06 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 06:46:17 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:00:04 -!- nosrepemos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:02:43 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22:00 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26:44 -!- Redz has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:17 -!- bzn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:27:32 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:32 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 07:27:32 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:44 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:41:24 -!- Redz has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:48:22 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:48:27 -!- Lasty1 has left ##crawl-dev 07:51:51 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:52:30 -!- Moonsilence has quit [] 07:54:02 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:03:09 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:03:54 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:46 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 08:06:35 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:12:50 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:15:16 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 08:21:24 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21:49 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:01 -!- ldf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:33:44 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34:05 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:36:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:38:30 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:55 -!- Moonsilence has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:51:35 -!- the_glow1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:52:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58:42 -!- kekekela has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:01:14 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:03:20 -!- Nefhilion has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:03:22 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:21 -!- enygmata has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23:47 -!- fuuu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:28:46 -!- nimitz_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:33:55 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:18 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:41:27 !seen dpeg 09:41:27 I last saw dpeg at Sat May 3 11:46:17 2014 UTC (2h 55m 10s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 09:44:37 -!- netkitten has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:52:46 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:56:46 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58:43 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:43 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:00:15 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦] 10:01:01 -!- fufumann has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08:44 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:09 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:24 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:29 -!- Bloaxzorro has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:18 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:14:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:10 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:15:30 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:42 Grunt: i think (not certain) that getting trampled into your qazlal cloud can lead to you taking damage from it 10:15:45 is this intended? 10:16:46 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:18:25 -!- Bloaxzorro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:19:45 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:41 ackack: cloud displacement is something which should be intentional, IMO, so getting trampled into your own cloud is fine by me. 10:24:09 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 10:29:42 03Grunt02 07[ranged_combat] * 0.15-a0-305-gbe1455f: Don't let portalled returning projectiles return. 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=be1455fe0371 10:30:16 (that was a good bug) 10:30:54 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:31:05 the 'trampled into your own cloud' is kinda on the same lines as continually getting caught in clouds of steam in swamps or shoals due to your flame clouds (via autoexplore or resting) 10:31:27 took me forever to navigate swamp 10:32:29 the steam thing is very obnoxious yeah 10:33:58 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:19 -!- Weretaco has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:43:24 And this is where I once again bring up "why not just make you cloud-proof". 10:45:45 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-382-g8517bcf: Restrict Q cloud generation to a 1 or 2 tile radius (nicolae). 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 6+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8517bcf445d8 10:45:45 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-383-g03d7197: Don't place Q flame clouds over water. 10(10 minutes ago, 1 file, 9+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=03d719773d83 10:46:28 I'm not convinced we're at a complete solution quite yet, but this looks significantly more playable. 10:47:05 is the ****** altar bonus getting a nerf 10:47:14 or are the air/earth getting a buff 10:47:29 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:24 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:49:23 Anyway I want to worry more about ranged_combat right now <_< 10:50:06 I'm thinking that pretty much everything is in a good enough position where further balancing could be done in trunk, but I want to hear from more expert players on the matter first. 11:01:28 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 11:03:18 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:05:56 -!- Bcadren has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:13 Grunt: Is CSZO up to date with the throwing nerf? 11:06:21 You throw a stone. The stone hits the blink frog!!! 11:06:21 You kill the blink frog! 11:06:35 because throwing is still amazing 11:06:41 hm 11:06:45 Let me check the revision 11:06:54 (Although I do have a +0,+9 ring of slaying on.) 11:07:05 And 37 str is pretty high. 11:07:23 ...yeah, the only commit cszo doesn't have is that one I just made. 11:07:28 Experimental (ranged_combat) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-305-gbe1455f 11:07:37 And now it has that too. 11:07:53 (right I should update the gods branch too) 11:08:33 aw 11:08:44 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-383-g03d7197 11:09:00 returning ammo boomeranging back to you after being portalled sounded like a great feature 11:09:41 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:05 -!- Basil is now known as Guest62562 11:10:11 Grunt: The new stormgod stormring is kinda wussy looking. 11:10:29 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:11:25 What previously was a schizophrenic lightshow of clouds is now a couple of clouds in near proximity of you at ******. 11:14:23 Experimental (ranged_combat) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-305-gbe1455f 11:15:12 Dang, 72+ damage in a javelin. 11:18:33 -!- cptwinky_ is now known as cptwinky 11:19:04 -!- Eonwe7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19:50 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:20:00 -!- Bcadren has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:07 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:21:15 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-383-g03d7197 11:21:53 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22:35 -!- Weretaco has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:22:59 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:23:07 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:27:51 hm. are there fewer clouds now? or the same number, but in a closer radius? 11:28:55 They can only place in a smaller radius; it's supposed to be roughly the same cloud count, but the small radius probably reduces the number that actually place. 11:29:34 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:29:44 yea. seems like it 11:29:58 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:43 how does piety affect cloud generation? 11:31:51 You get more clouds. 11:33:56 ok 11:34:17 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:45 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:39:17 * Grunt prepares to make a fool of himself on gdd again. 11:40:35 on gdd, who would even notice? 11:40:52 (yes) 11:42:44 ranged stabbing would be Quite Strong if it typically one-shot sleeping enemies, as melee stabbing does. I'm guessing you're imagining it being a bit weaker than that? 11:43:26 I'd need to fiddle with how effective a stab it was, of course. 11:43:34 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:45:00 yeah, just thinking. 11:48:22 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 11:48:26 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:28 i don't think ranged stabbing could be anything like melee stabbing and still be reasonable 11:50:22 since most of the downsides of stabbing are to do with having to be in melee range 11:51:24 I would be hoping for a decision along the lines of "do I want to try to close to melee range and get a melee stab, or am I okay with shooting the guy which will hurt but probably won't kill him?". 11:51:54 So this obviously wouldn't be anywhere near as effective as melee stabbing. 11:53:16 PleasingFungus: who needs ranged stabbimg if you can already oneshot a lot of things with stones 11:54:16 can you? I haven't played ranged_combat 11:55:29 IMO go play it >_> 11:55:39 I'm already playing qaz in gods! 11:55:45 and doing real bad because I'm bad but that's not the point 11:56:07 Qazagandraganada 11:58:25 -!- fungee^ is now known as fungee 12:02:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:05:31 ??ice cave 12:05:32 ice cave[1/2]: A kind of portal vault, a la ossuaries and labyrinths. Expect lots of ice-related loot (rings of ice, manuals of ice magic, etc.) and fun things like ice statues, frost giants, and polar bear packs. Possible depths for early ice caves are D:11-14, Lair:1-8, Orc:1-4 and Elf:1-2. Late ice caves are in D:14-19, Elf:1-3 and Vaults:1-5. 12:05:39 do ice caves really appear in vaults? ever? 12:05:41 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-368-g875a5fb (34) 12:06:03 oh, nm 12:11:09 -!- derrek has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:29 hello! 12:12:01 sorry for the stupid question, but how could I print some debug info at any channel? 12:12:35 tried mprf(MSGCH_ERROR, "... etc, but it did not help 12:12:58 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:13 -!- dtsund has quit [Client Quit] 12:13:20 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:54 -!- Adeon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:21:32 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:35 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:55 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 12:22:09 <|amethyst> derrek: that should work... does nothing get printed? 12:23:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:34 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:26:31 yes.. I'm trying this in wizard mode 12:27:25 I was trying to debug a crash, so put some mprfs before actual ASSERT crash 12:27:50 and I cant see anything new 12:28:13 ASSERT is commented 12:28:25 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:28:41 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:29:31 -!- soonmide has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:29:42 -!- nooodl_ is now known as nooodl 12:30:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:30:25 so, in general, question would be: how can I print debug info in the code, and where I have to look for results? 12:30:44 Say, is there a way to have "enter" in a macro? 12:31:25 ? 12:32:17 or hm 12:33:01 Nevermind, "." does the trick. 12:33:53 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:34:08 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:34:32 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 12:37:07 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:37:55 ~m1f. - autothrow! 12:39:15 ...or just press shift-tab. 12:39:17 tab can autothrow too. I have tab attack with no throw and shift-tab attack with throw 12:39:34 ah 12:40:03 shift-tab doesn't work because lolbrowsers 12:40:46 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:42:29 -!- Grunt_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:37 -!- Grunt has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:42:42 -!- Grunt_ is now known as Grunt 12:42:53 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 12:43:22 -!- netkitten has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:44:50 <|amethyst> derrek: mprf should print stuff to the message area, but if the game hasn't started yet, or if it crashes before redrawing, you might not see that 12:45:11 yeah, I understand that 12:45:21 see my messages above 12:45:26 ...in which case you could check the crash log, probably? 12:45:43 I commented out crash assert 12:45:57 That's funny. 12:45:58 so I'm in a wizmode, and game did not crash 12:46:01 <|amethyst> so it's running without crashing but doesn't print anything? 12:46:11 <|amethyst> can you show what exactly you changed? 12:46:21 yes 12:46:22 Using this 1=>f. macro still prompts whether I want to throw at myself without any enemies in sight. 12:46:27 even with allow_self_target = false 12:46:44 void actor::start_constricting(actor &whom, int dur) { if (!constricting) constricting = new constricting_t(); mprf(MSGCH_ERROR, "find mid = %d", constricting->find(whom.mid)); mprf(MSGCH_ERROR, "find mid = %d", constricting->end()); //ASSERT(constricting->find(whom.mid) == constricting->end()); (*constricting)[whom.mid] = dur; whom.constricted_by = mid; whom.held = constriction_damage() ? HEL 12:46:44 the funnier thing is that it crashes if i then answer yes 12:47:02 go try it out 12:47:16 http://pastebin.com/kCncY10i 12:47:23 <|amethyst> derrek: and that compiles? 12:47:36 yes, with warnings actually 12:47:57 <|amethyst> what warnings? 12:48:00 assert is commented 12:48:11 <|amethyst> I would think that converting the map iterator to an integer would just fail 12:48:29 <|amethyst> oh, but this is in a "..." 12:48:35 <|amethyst> so it's not being type-checked 12:48:45 well, maybe, its my 1st day digging in the code 12:48:49 <|amethyst> in printf, including mprf, %d means "a number" 12:49:04 <|amethyst> constricting->find(..) is a map::iterator 12:49:11 <|amethyst> likewise constricting->end() 12:49:39 <|amethyst> though honestly I would expect that to crash rather than just not printing anything 12:50:07 <|amethyst> (more specifically, %d means "a signed int" 12:50:12 <|amethyst> printed as decimal) 12:50:17 it works 12:50:24 I mean, no crash 12:50:30 printf'ing d %d while passing something else hardly can crash, I think 12:50:43 it will however most likely print some junk 12:50:51 let me change the string to be just text 12:50:57 <|amethyst> Zaba: passing an object with through ... though 12:51:14 yeah, but even if you pass nothing it'll just read some junk from the stack or a register 12:51:17 <|amethyst> Do you understand what that assert is doing? 12:51:41 actually, no :) 12:51:53 <|amethyst> it crashes if whom.mid is not found in the constricting map 12:52:29 actually the opposite, no? 12:52:34 <|amethyst> err, yeah 12:52:41 <|amethyst> it crashes if it is already in the map 12:52:51 (why exactly it crashes if a midi of for whom the bell tolls isn't found is a mystery, but it just does) 12:52:53 so, map.find will return constricting->end() if there is nothing in it? 12:52:56 !apt de 12:52:57 DE: Fighting: -2*, Short: 0, Long: -1, Axes: -2, Maces: -3*, Polearms: -3*, Staves: 0, Slings: -2, Bows: 1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 1, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 3, Shields: -2, UC: -2*, Splcast: 3!, Conj: 1, Hexes: 3, Charms: 4!, Summ: 1, Nec: 2!, Tloc: 1, Tmut: 1, Fire: 1, Ice: 1, Air: 0, Earth: 1, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 2, Exp: -1, HP: -2, MP: 3! 12:53:12 map.find will return end() if it can't find the element 12:53:15 <|amethyst> derrek: right, or if whom.mid isn't found as a key 12:53:24 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:53:36 anyway, even the simple string is not printed 12:53:44 mprf(MSGCH_ERROR, "find mid, my mprf"); 12:53:45 -!- Eonwe7 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:53:58 <|amethyst> then you are not reproducing the crash 12:54:28 thats weird. it will crash if I'll uncomment this 12:54:28 <|amethyst> even when you start to constrict someone new it doesn't print anything? 12:54:49 Have you tried not using MSGCH_ERROR? 12:55:21 Usually when I'm doing this I don't specify a channel (which implies MSGCH_PLAIN). 12:55:52 one thing I forgot to mention, this is in wiz-fsim 12:56:02 maybe it the key 12:56:37 so the constriction happens during the fsim 12:56:39 <|amethyst> I wouldn't be surprised if fsim does something bad when you constrict the monster or vice versa 12:57:28 <|amethyst> resetting the actors' constriction maps or something 12:57:31 yeah, right. thats why I tried to debug that. but stuck with simple debug-print 12:57:45 <|amethyst> you could install a debugger :) 12:58:02 <|amethyst> and build with make DEBUG=y NO_OPTIMIZE=y 12:58:20 oh 12:58:22 fsim 12:58:30 fsim mutes a lot of output IIRC. 12:58:53 debugger is a great idea :) 12:58:57 <|amethyst> ah, indeed 12:59:03 <|amethyst> no_messages mx; 12:59:03 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 12:59:04 just tried quick & dirty 12:59:17 where can I find a reference to that? 13:00:05 <|amethyst> the no_messages mx; line in _get_fight_data (wiz-fsim.cc) 13:00:30 thanks guys, now its clear 13:00:37 <|amethyst> the no_messages class is in message.{h,cc}: it just sets suppress_messages = true in its constructor, and restores the original value in its destructor 13:01:28 <|amethyst> then prepare_message sees suppress_message and sets the colour to MSGCOL_MUTED 13:01:53 thanks for the help, I was thinking I will never figure out it by myself 13:03:02 what's the throwing nerf 13:06:02 <|amethyst> Grunt: should we maybe let MSGCH_ERROR through unscathed? 13:06:21 |amethyst: possibly? 13:06:44 <|amethyst> I wonder about all the other stuff that uses no_messages though :( 13:07:10 also, how strong is upheaval at max invo 13:07:15 I know at 0 invo it's 3d12 13:07:37 3d37 iirc. 13:08:34 <|amethyst> Grunt: there's also mapgen, trowel card, trog wrath, debug_generate_level, initial polymorph of a shifter, and set_xl 13:08:59 Trog wrath? 13:09:00 oh 13:09:05 "The foo goes berserk!" 13:09:22 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:09:30 uh, that is strong 13:09:45 how much is disaster radius at max invo anyways 13:09:50 does it do firestorm level damage 13:10:34 would be nice to have gods-sprint 13:10:58 to quickly mess around with them in something like zigsprint 13:11:01 ...start with every god angry at you; you win when their collective wrath expires? 13:11:17 You mean adding altars into sprints, I take it. 13:11:20 I should do that. 13:11:24 yes 13:11:34 and having an experimental branch that is "gods" in sprint 13:11:37 (once I get back home) 13:14:18 Grunt: That would be hilarious 13:16:18 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:17:07 <|amethyst> Bloaxor: available on CSZO console 13:17:31 Patch to simplify Recite and make it less deterministic. by Siegurt 13:18:08 <|amethyst> Bloaxor: that doesn't make them actually appear in zigsprint, mind you 13:18:51 (todo land multisprint so zigsprint can be an actual zig so I have room to expand the opening area) 13:18:59 -!- Guest62562 is now known as Basil 13:19:47 Webtiles server restarted. 13:20:04 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:20:08 <|amethyst> err 13:20:09 <|amethyst> hm 13:20:33 Grunt: Speaking of zigsprint. 13:20:39 Webtiles server restarted. 13:20:43 it could use a couple of extra potions of experience 13:20:51 Webtiles server restarted. 13:21:12 Quite a bunch of things can oneshot you at XL1/2 13:22:01 <|amethyst> ok, and in webtiles too 13:22:27 -!- Schwer-Muta has quit [] 13:24:37 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:37 -!- mumi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:29:48 03|amethyst02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-384-ge1aecdb: Add Gozag to vim .des syntax highlighting. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1aecdb4ae3b 13:29:48 03|amethyst02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-385-g26d0ca0: Add new gods to zigsprint. 10(67 seconds ago, 1 file, 3+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=26d0ca078574 13:29:49 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-385-g26d0ca0 13:30:13 <|amethyst> Bloaxor: there you go 13:30:47 <|amethyst> Bloaxor: of course, you can't actually join gozag 13:30:51 <|amethyst> Bloaxor: but the altar is there 13:31:13 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:32:25 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:32:50 |amethyst: thanks m8 13:32:55 what happens if you try? 13:33:16 <|amethyst> SamB: tells you you need more $ 13:33:17 SamB: Gozag doesn't accept worship by poor scum like you! 13:33:22 ah 13:33:38 how did I know the words "accept" and "worship" would be involved 13:34:07 <|amethyst> "Don't pray at me, bro" 13:35:56 -!- bones____ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:11 |amethyst: doh, I thought he was in the vim .des :( 13:36:46 <|amethyst> I became suspicious when qazlal was highlighted but not gozag 13:37:09 (must have merged that incorrectly) 13:38:05 <|amethyst> I was confused for a minute when qazlal was highlighted 13:38:34 <|amethyst> then I remembered I linked levdes.vim directly from my crawl working dir into my ~/.vim/syntax 13:38:46 -!- bones___ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:39:32 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:40:58 <|amethyst> I guess no one's really interested in making a levdes-mode.el :) 13:41:16 <|amethyst> I hear some people still use emacs 13:52:28 -!- derrek has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:53:20 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 13:54:03 golzag does not seem like the best choice to worship in zigsprint 13:54:06 or in sprint in general 13:54:18 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 13:56:07 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-386-gc3d2fff: Add G/Q to other sprints. 10(83 seconds ago, 6 files, 31+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3d2fff81b71 13:56:50 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:53 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:59:08 it's no fun being silenced by a monster that heals half its hp pool in one spell :s 14:00:14 -!- odiv has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:49 Bloaxor: How many things can cast silence again? 14:01:05 there's ereshkigal and then there's ereshkigal 14:01:12 Mennas, Ereshkigal, and silent spectres 14:01:24 how did you forget Mennas 14:01:26 -!- NB__ is now known as Guest61901 14:01:31 Because I haven't seen him recently. 14:01:39 -!- Guest61901 has quit [Client Quit] 14:04:10 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:06:41 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-387-g0d28492: Q worshippers get a stealth malus. 10(48 seconds ago, 1 file, 8+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d28492d2faa 14:07:32 -!- bones___ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:44 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-387-g0d28492 14:08:47 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-387-g0d28492 14:08:53 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:10:20 -!- bones____ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:14:00 %git :/mennas 14:14:01 Could not find commit :/mennas (git returned 128) 14:17:22 -!- Bcadren_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:46 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-388-g5ee1b30: More Q cloud generation tweaks. 10(43 seconds ago, 1 file, 5+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ee1b300c81b 14:18:49 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:19:01 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-388-g5ee1b30 14:19:02 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-388-g5ee1b30 14:19:15 -!- Bloaxor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:20 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:38 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:01 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:01 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:28:25 does spell school order have a standard pattern? I ask because in the Su start book (callings) You have 3 XL4 spells: Hexes/Summ, Ice/Summ, Summ/Air and it looks a bit odd. 14:28:46 -!- MiraclePrism has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:34 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:31:43 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 14:32:56 |amethyst: I'll make levdes-mode.el just to show you! 14:33:18 too bad I'm terrible at lisp 14:34:38 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:41 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:34:50 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:52 -!- rast- is now known as rast 14:37:55 <|amethyst> rchandra: yes, the order of the SPTYP_ enumerators 14:38:02 <|amethyst> rchandra: see spl-util.h 14:38:19 I wonder, does vim let you edit with rectangles 14:38:29 <|amethyst> gammafunk: rectangles in what sense? 14:38:31 that's been very handy in emacs for working with des files 14:38:48 ah, thanks. probably not worth trying to reorder those :) 14:38:50 C-x r k and C-x r y sense :) 14:39:01 <|amethyst> yes, ctrl-v 14:39:03 <|amethyst> visual block mode 14:39:08 ok, that's good 14:39:28 makes some things in des a lot easier 14:39:36 <|amethyst> there's also a 'virtualedit' option to let you move the cursor past the end of the line 14:40:01 ah, I usually just add a space for that 14:40:56 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 32.0a1/20140430030201]] 14:41:29 I'm not even sure what all the vim mode highlites. I suppose highlithing features like W/w would be pretty helpful 14:42:02 s/highlithing/highlighting/ 14:42:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:46:49 Highlite sounds very American. 14:47:36 it's hilight 14:47:42 if you want to be 'merikan about it 14:47:54 hi-lite is almost 1950s "new orthography" 14:48:02 no. 2 match for highlite is dutch 14:48:13 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:49:16 <|amethyst> vim uses 'highlight' or 'hi' 14:49:22 More Q ruination incoming... 14:49:30 03Grunt02 07[gods] * 0.15-a0-389-ge864e6e: Make Q's GONNNNG conduct more of an official thing. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e864e6e2b968 14:49:32 <|amethyst> err 14:49:32 <|amethyst> 'hl' rather 14:49:47 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-389-ge864e6e 14:49:49 Experimental (gods) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-389-ge864e6e 14:50:25 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hilite Apparently it's a thing. 14:50:32 thank god it's not a commonly used thing 14:51:04 <|amethyst> 'hilite' I understand, but 'highlite' is kind of weird ('hilight' slightly less so) 14:51:08 Grunt: clearly he shouldn't grant you rElec 14:51:12 but rather 14:51:14 ??Shield of Gong 14:51:14 I don't have a page labeled Shield_of_Gong in my learndb. 14:51:20 >:( 14:51:26 <|amethyst> ??shield of the gong 14:51:26 shield of the gong[1/3]: +27 shield {rElec rN+ MR+ EV-5} This shield will surely be heard! Was +6 without the EV-5 in 0.13-. 14:51:35 !learn add GONNNNG see {shield of the gong} 14:51:35 GONNNNG[1/1]: see {shield of the gong} 14:52:10 !learn add Shield_of_Gong see {GONNNNG} 14:52:11 Shield of Gong[1/1]: see {GONNNNG} 14:52:19 ??Shield of Gong 14:52:20 shield of the gong[1/3]: +27 shield {rElec rN+ MR+ EV-5} This shield will surely be heard! Was +6 without the EV-5 in 0.13-. 14:53:02 <|amethyst> !learn edit Shield_of_Gong s/GONNNNG/shield of the gong/ 14:53:02 Shield of Gong[1/1]: see {shield of the gong} 14:53:24 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:20 mm I think Q works a lot better now 15:00:11 !lg Wizzzarg 15:00:12 No games for Wizzzarg. 15:00:16 !lg Wizzzargh 15:00:16 345. Wizzzargh the Slinger (L11 HuAr of Qazlal), engulfed by their own thunder on Lair:4 on 2014-05-03 19:46:46, with 11286 points after 10620 turns and 0:59:37. 15:00:18 !lg Wizzzargh -log 15:00:19 345. Wizzzargh, XL11 HuAr, T:10620: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Wizzzargh/morgue-Wizzzargh-20140503-194646.txt 15:00:29 73 damage! 15:00:35 No wonder everything avoids these clouds. 15:01:33 !lg * ckaux~~thunder max=dam x=dam 15:01:35