00:01:16 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.0-21-gd531db5 00:02:53 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:03:20 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-188-gb26a505 (34) 00:07:16 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:09:14 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:04 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:21:51 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:22:42 -!- flappity has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:31:16 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:39:11 build question: any idea how to fix http://pastebin.com/ZpZkG5Ft ? 00:39:25 this is on an amazon ec2 instance running ubuntu 00:40:18 -!- GummyVite has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:40:34 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 00:41:18 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:43:17 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:49:05 odd, does g++ execute from the command line? 00:49:16 e.g. if you just run the command `g++' 00:50:02 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:50:04 oh 00:50:15 That's an easy one; you have gcc but not g++ installed. 00:50:24 didn't know that could happen 00:50:31 so apt-get g++? 00:50:42 Try starting with, uh, 00:50:52 apt-get install build-essential 00:51:22 Actually, you'll want the full set of packages Crawl needs if you don't have those already. 00:51:39 Let me get the list (it's in INSTALL.txt if you want to find it before I can do so from here). 00:51:42 does should submodule-init handle that? 00:51:52 ...imagine either "does" or "should" wasn't in that sentence 00:52:41 build-essential libncursesw5-dev bison flex liblua5.1-0-dev \ 00:52:41 122 libsqlite3-dev libz-dev pkg-config libsdl-image1.2-dev libsdl1.2-dev \ 00:52:44 123 libfreetype6-dev libpng-dev ttf-dejavu-core 00:52:49 (ignore the line numbers) 00:52:51 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:53:01 And no, it does not. 00:53:16 (todo sdl2) 00:54:18 silly ubuntu installing gcc without the c++ compiler 00:54:33 !send gammafunk qbert 00:54:34 Sending qbert to gammafunk. 00:54:38 (for more silliness!!!) 00:54:42 so apt-get all of those? 00:55:00 PleasingFungus: yeah 00:55:10 well apt-get install (possibly with sudo) and all that 00:55:28 I thought about making the qbert tile my tavern avatar 00:55:38 gammafunk: why hasn't this happened yet 00:55:42 but then I realized I should make my own gammafunk tile 00:55:47 mm 00:55:54 Grunt: imo it should be your tile! 00:56:00 er avatar 00:56:38 I don't quite know what your current avatar is 00:57:05 the thing that's vaguely sinusoidal 00:57:09 and yellow 00:57:37 oh I bet that qbert tile is pretty funny zoomed in though 00:57:44 It's a kind of sigil I drew ages ago and has kind of followed me around since. 00:59:07 oldie but goodie 01:00:19 oh crap, haha, just looked at jormungandr zoomed in 01:00:28 and I realized those yellow things on the other side of him 01:00:29 ? 01:00:34 are his right claws 01:00:39 Yes. 01:00:40 http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv262/idoru2099/Strife/Episode_16/gzdoom2009-07-1401-32-28-89.jpg did someone mention a sigil 01:00:42 thought those were weird ears or something 01:01:03 man those stubby, vestigal arms 01:01:12 -!- MaxFrosty has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:02:03 !send Bloax the Entity 01:02:04 Sending the Entity to Bloax. 01:02:11 eep 01:04:29 a few things I'd like to see in a race that don't exist at all. A perma-TINY race. [Bat Form and Spider Form are Tiny, but nothing stays tiny.] A Dex-lead race. [REALLY High DEX, like Trolls are with Strength] And A huge (Dragon-sized) race. 01:04:45 BlastHardcheese what game is that? 01:06:03 I mean Bloax what game is that? 01:06:13 That is Strife. 01:06:32 and the weapon he's holding there is the Sigil 01:09:39 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:11:11 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:13:27 -!- DisappointingRan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:18:42 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:23:58 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 01:24:09 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 01:24:36 -!- turde has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:27:57 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34:19 -!- Eonwe6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:35:45 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:36:10 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:47:18 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 01:52:53 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:05:41 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:35 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:11:38 Any devs ever compile in cygwin under windows before? If so, please help me with this: http://pastebin.com/v7wfpxme 02:15:16 I think the xp it takes to recharge an elemental evoker should scale with level (more?) because it feels like you can use them practically every fight in extended. 02:16:34 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.0-21-gd531db5 02:17:38 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Quit: bye] 02:17:52 -!- bzn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:23:19 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-188-gb26a505 (34) 02:31:27 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:32:03 -!- User__ is now known as Xenobreeder 02:37:43 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:39:07 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:42:03 What does this mean? 02:42:04 c:\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.6.1/include/c++/cwchar:250:11: error: '::wcstold' has not been declared 02:42:05 c:\mingw\bin\../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.6.1/include/c++/cwchar:266:22: error: '__gnu_cxx::wcstold' has not been declared 02:43:01 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:43:20 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:43:24 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:43:30 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:43:33 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 02:43:54 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:06 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 02:55:03 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11926&p=166913#p166913 < where I'm up to now 03:02:05 -!- simmarine_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:10:58 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 03:11:33 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 03:12:03 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:12:51 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:54 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:20:18 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:21:30 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:23:09 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:32:19 -!- Pepe has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:00 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:36:25 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 03:37:50 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:40:00 -!- Orfax has quit [] 03:42:02 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54:44 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:56:18 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:58:42 -!- netkitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:59:50 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:02:48 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:06:25 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:10:19 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:11:35 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:21:40 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:32 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:22 -!- Eonwe6 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:26:26 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:08 -!- Sonata is now known as flappity 04:35:23 Get you bytes together people! 04:36:39 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:20 -!- Keanan has quit [Client Quit] 04:39:30 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:41:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:42:52 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:50:21 -!- Bovinius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:51:58 -!- gareppa has quit [Quit: Sto andando via] 04:57:31 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:02:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30:03 -!- mdvedh has quit [Client Quit] 05:31:18 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:19 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:36:35 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:27 -!- SomeoneAwful has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:43:57 -!- Ryansee has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 05:44:02 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:44:28 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:33 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:18 -!- Hailey has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:49:58 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:51:00 -!- Hailey has quit [Client Quit] 05:59:41 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 06:11:49 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:47 XTAHUA DOES NOT LIKE TO 'OPEN DOORS!' XTAHUA PREFER TO SMASH THEM! by Patashu 06:18:26 -!- neuwiz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:28:56 bmfx (L27 GrAs) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1436: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:6) 06:31:17 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:34:38 -!- guest2014 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:43:07 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:44:38 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 06:51:06 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:54:55 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 06:55:07 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:02:32 -!- Mixolyde has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:06:18 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:06:19 -!- neuwiz has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:06:29 Inventory second page is stuck by Curio 07:08:26 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:08:59 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:09 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 07:10:42 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:46 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:10:52 -!- rast- is now known as rast 07:11:54 -!- mdvedh has quit [Client Quit] 07:13:05 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:15:03 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:17:30 -!- Wolfram_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:22:27 Ingvold (L6 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 07:24:51 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 07:25:38 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:35:23 Ingvold (L6 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 07:36:23 Since ##crawl sounds confused right now, I wanted to ask if it's normal for me to get a "distant 'Zot'" message, but then have my mana drained. I thought effects directly on you could only happen when you were in LOS of the trap? 07:37:03 sounds like a bug yeah 07:38:00 Would it be appropriate to dump a save? Or is this too small? 07:38:49 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:26 i think i found it 07:40:00 so don't worry about it, just looks like a player-specific zot trap effect accidentally getting applied to a monster 07:40:22 bmfx (L27 GrAs) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1436: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type -1 (-1) (Zig:23) 07:40:35 %git 145100d5 07:40:35 07Sage02 {wheals} * 0.14-a0-3000-g145100d: Remove poison from Zot trap effects. 10(3 months ago, 1 file, 8+ 14-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=145100d5b75e 07:43:21 looks like a case was removed from the switch without the switch condition changing, yeah 07:54:34 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 07:55:53 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:57:25 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:58:47 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:00:25 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:26 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 08:00:26 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 08:02:02 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:04:02 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:05:38 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:05:55 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:07 Ingvold (L6 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 08:17:41 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-189-gb12d416: Fix Zot traps sometimes applying a player-only effect to monsters (Nivim) 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b12d41604502 08:17:41 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 08:18:35 I thought orange rats weren't supposed to spawn in the lair anymore? 08:19:32 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:19:49 vault? 08:23:14 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:23:17 -!- radinms has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:26:37 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:32:59 <|amethyst> orange rat is in the Lair random spawn population 08:33:29 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 08:42:23 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:43:12 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-190-gdafa99d: Make engulf interrupt recite and word of recall 10(12 minutes ago, 3 files, 19+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=dafa99dbf3f4 08:44:22 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:29 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:18 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:48:19 'Make Hall of Blades Fun' - Dancing weapons ally with a champion of the weapon type by Patashu 08:56:42 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 08:57:20 -!- seba_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:02:15 -!- pisano has quit [Client Quit] 09:03:08 Isn't tile_misc_anim=false supposed to turn off all remaining animations? 09:09:11 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:34 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:10:52 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:50 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:17:24 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 09:18:20 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:28 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:51 -!- Patashu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:26:52 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: that function (zin_check_recite_to_monsters) is kind of funny about its return value 09:27:40 * Grunt eviscerates a god proposal!!!!! 09:27:41 <|amethyst> MarvinPA: in particular, the difference between 0 and -1 is not exactly what's documented 09:28:57 what's an invalid trap type 100 09:29:48 -!- HDA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:29:54 -!- LNCP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30:29 -!- ainsophy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:55 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 09:32:27 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:35 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:32:52 -!- Whistling_Beard has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:33:10 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:34:13 fucking a 09:34:23 hd that same crash 5 09:34:52 -!- ainsophy_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:35:54 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:27 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:27 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:46 -!- ckyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:26 03|amethyst02 07* 0.15-a0-191-g4e2fb7e: Markup and improve a couple of recite functions. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 30+ 11-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e2fb7e3358b 09:41:11 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:35 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:42:56 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 09:47:41 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:49:57 -!- _K_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:51:35 -!- neuwiz has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:52:29 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:52:36 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:59:03 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:59:09 -!- zxc232 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:00:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:02:54 -!- sildraith has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:04:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 10:07:48 -!- pakap has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 10:21:24 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:23:13 |amethyst: aha i see, thanks for cleaning it up 10:24:50 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 10:29:48 -!- chthon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:29:56 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:31:36 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:33:37 ??calcifying cluod 10:33:37 I don't have a page labeled calcifying_cluod in my learndb. 10:36:56 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 10:37:44 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:38:18 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:09 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:45:05 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140419030204]] 10:45:50 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:53:18 -!- PalythWork has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:56:59 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:59:07 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:19 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01:26 03elliptic02 07* 0.15-a0-192-g11e4eca: Fix wanderers getting more MP than other backgrounds. 10(14 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=11e4eca7142c 11:01:26 03elliptic02 07* 0.15-a0-193-gf781f13: Fix HP/MP being computed incorrectly while training skills (qw). 10(13 minutes ago, 1 file, 21+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f781f136c39e 11:01:26 Cherry-picked 2 commits into stone_soup-0.14 11:01:28 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:02:25 -!- Bcadren has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:03:51 -!- wizzo has quit [Changing host] 11:04:21 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.0-22-gf9cf6d8 11:04:22 -!- ToastyP is now known as ToastyP_ 11:06:53 -!- Infinite_Monkeys has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:09:09 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:10:53 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:05 -!- Sirrick has quit [Client Quit] 11:15:49 -!- wizzo has quit [Changing host] 11:18:05 -!- wizzo has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:20:31 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:44 Error: truncation inside the save file by Sar 11:24:40 hello, getting this on my 0.14 lantea game: Error: truncation inside the save file. 11:24:47 guess it's hosed? :( 11:31:01 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:23 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:34:56 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:37:08 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:54 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:25 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:37 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:49:11 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:51:45 hm, people are reporting issues with loading saves in general on CLN 11:51:59 anyone know what that error actually means? 11:52:02 ??clan 11:52:02 clan[1/3]: European Crawl server, located in Germany. http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/ or crawl.lantea.net, port 22, username: terminal, key: http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key http://crawl.develz.org/cao_key.ppk See {putty} for Windows users. Runs 0.10-0.13 and trunk (DCSS, Zot, Sprint, Tut) 11:52:09 I'll note that CLN just updated its 0.14 branch. 11:52:09 This worries me. 11:52:11 yeah 11:52:16 it seemed to start shortly after that 11:52:29 We haven't touched any save compat code in 0.14, so... 11:52:39 I think it is possibly a server issue? 11:53:02 yeah, the recent 0.14 commits all look rather harmless, at least from the point of view of loading saves 11:53:10 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 11:53:15 TZer0: you run CLAN, right? 11:53:39 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:14 yes 11:54:29 Bloax: hi TZer0 11:54:38 Grunt: hi Grunt 11:56:43 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 11:57:38 -!- wizzo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:57:54 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:59:02 -!- ToastyP has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:59:04 -!- ToastyP_ is now known as ToastyP 11:59:18 weird, I get that truncation error when starting a new game on CLN too 11:59:35 uh 11:59:39 and only 0.14 12:00:07 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:14 >Watching a 0.14 game on lantea 12:00:22 Unfortunately your game ended unexpectedly. 12:00:35 And trunk works just fine, yeah. 12:00:50 are we absolutely certain that there is nothing weird going on with recent 0.14 commits :P 12:01:22 (I could rebuild some underused server and see if anything breaks??? <_<) 12:01:48 maybe I will try rebuilding CLN again on the theory that maybe the build process got corrupted somehow 12:01:51 ??rebuild 12:01:51 rebuild[1/1]: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rebuild/ https://dobrazupa.org/rebuild/ http://crawl.lantea.net/rebuild/ http://rl.heh.fi/rebuild/ http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rebuild/ Bug kilobyte, |amethyst, or Napkin for CDO. Use your powers wisely. 12:02:25 -!- wizzo has quit [Changing host] 12:03:14 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.0-24-gfb45beb 12:04:02 huh 12:04:04 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.0-24-gfb45beb 12:04:06 elliptic: works now 12:04:08 yes 12:04:51 well 12:05:01 I guess I will take credit?? 12:05:14 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:05:26 haha 12:05:39 in principle it'd be nice to have some way to detect failures like that during the build process, before players start getting scary messages. I guess you'd have to know what the actual problem was, though 12:05:55 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:54 elliptic: maybe mention something in #8405? 12:07:59 sure 12:08:36 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-193-gf781f13 (34) 12:09:39 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 12:12:59 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:17:14 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:19:06 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:22:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:02 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:26:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:43 is there any particular reason you can't use a scroll of brand weapon on a blowgun 12:33:10 because non-randart branded blowguns don't exist 12:33:27 what, speed and evasion were removed? 12:33:38 ok then 12:33:42 huh? 12:33:52 they never existed except on randarts 12:33:55 really 12:34:08 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:22 ok then 12:44:48 -!- swayze has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:47:39 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 12:50:20 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:51:38 -!- Brannock_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:53:13 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:57 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:01 -!- Xpym has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:02:24 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:27 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 13:13:42 -!- johnny0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:16:20 Hey devfolk, is there a guide to what variables are available via LUA? I'm interested in extending my rcfile lua that auto-picks-up auxiliary armor when the slots are empty to also pick them up when the slots are not fully enchanted. 13:17:03 -!- Whistling_Bread has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:14 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:24:53 -!- tkappleton has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:25:41 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:38 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:00 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 13:31:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 13:35:30 Lasty: l_*.cc will have them. that feature exists though, can steal it from Medar (or me) 13:36:23 Oh, nice. That'll save me some time. Thanks! 13:37:24 which server? 13:38:04 I'm seeing defaults for both of you on develz.org 13:38:42 er wait -- is it the 3-Lua Files section? 13:38:50 gearset.lua? 13:39:29 no . . . 13:40:12 rchandra: how can I get access to a version of your rcfile that has that lua? 13:40:38 ^rc :rchandra 0.14 13:40:39 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.14/rchandra.rc 13:40:44 near the end 13:40:45 Thanks! 13:41:04 got any other goodies I should lift? 13:42:15 -!- Isasaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:44:08 -!- notclule has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:44:19 -!- oberstein has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:45:30 there's an autodump from qw 13:45:57 sorry, this shouldn't be in -dev. I'll msg you 13:48:06 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 13:48:26 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52:28 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:33 <|amethyst> elliptic: I just generated a bunch of blowguns with &%blowgun and got one non-artefact blowgun of evasion 13:56:03 really? weird 13:56:09 <|amethyst> case WPN_BLOWGUN: 13:56:10 <|amethyst> if (one_chance_in(30)) 13:56:10 <|amethyst> rc = SPWPN_EVASION; 13:56:10 <|amethyst> break; 13:56:10 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:19 can we remove that :P 13:56:28 <|amethyst> Sounds reasonable :) 13:56:40 (or wait for Grunt to do things to ranged combat first and then see how reasonable blowgun brands are) 13:56:49 I found a runed blowgun a little while ago that was +0 unbranded uncursed 13:56:59 <|amethyst> rchandra: how long ago 13:57:08 <|amethyst> %git c6875de 13:57:09 07kilobyte02 * 0.11-a0-553-gc6875de: Very rarely allow non-artefact blowguns to get the evasion brand. 10(2 years, 1 month ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c6875deaa84c 13:57:11 <|amethyst> elliptic: ^^ 13:57:20 an hour or two maybe? 13:57:27 <|amethyst> rchandra: oh, hm 13:57:30 -!- Palyth has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:57:39 <|amethyst> rchandra: I was thinking it was this: 13:57:43 <|amethyst> %git d8ce012 13:57:44 07|amethyst02 * 0.14-a0-1802-gd8ce012: Don't generate blowguns with nonzero to-dam enchantment. 10(4 months ago, 3 files, 13+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d8ce012f37b8 13:57:49 <|amethyst> rchandra: but that was months ago 13:58:27 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:38 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 14:00:21 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:20 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 14:02:08 <|amethyst> rchandra: runed, not glowing? 14:02:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:18 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04:02 hmm. I'm not sure, just that it was blue 14:04:27 came from a spriggan assassin 14:05:53 <|amethyst> !source _give_monster_item 14:05:53 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/wiz-mon.cc;hb=HEAD#l842 14:05:59 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:03 <|amethyst> if (mthing.special && !get_equip_desc(mthing)) set_equip_desc(mthing, ISFLAG_GLOWING); 14:07:02 <|amethyst> err 14:07:04 oh. just to cause player paranoia with no reward? 14:07:30 <|amethyst> (the link is wrong, it's the top of mon-gear.cc 14:07:43 <|amethyst> rchandra: well, mthing.special should mean "it has a brand" 14:09:46 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 14:10:24 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:11:25 if I see one again I'll make a save 14:11:35 <|amethyst> yeah, that would be helpful 14:12:14 <|amethyst> it could be that there is some code path that still allows blowguns to get +dam before the cosmetic flag is set 14:12:38 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:12:55 <|amethyst> (and then the +dam may or may not be removed later; it is definitely removed when loading a save) 14:16:49 almost a thousand turns in abyss:5 with the rune and still no exit 14:16:55 what is this statistical madness 14:21:44 -!- zxc2321 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:22:21 -!- nosrepemos has quit [] 14:24:25 -!- thetabyte has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:24:54 -!- _K_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:29:27 !lg Bloax -tv 14:29:27 <|amethyst> Bloax: were you exploring? 14:29:27 756. Bloax, XL17 DDMo, T:22239 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 14:29:33 |amethyst: yes 14:29:58 <|amethyst> Bloax: looks like a 1/1250 chance of each new feature you see being an exit 14:30:49 also this death is a full 13 on the 1-10 scale of insanity 14:30:51 enjoy 14:31:16 almost made it too :( 14:31:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31:53 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 14:32:04 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:04 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 14:32:04 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:41 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Client Quit] 14:32:57 -!- neuwiz has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:34:12 -!- qtip has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:39:31 -!- ackack has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:42:38 -!- FiftyNine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:43:32 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140325030201]] 14:43:48 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:42 -!- Venter_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:49:05 -!- rchandra1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:41 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:50:10 -!- rchandra has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:50:12 -!- rchandra1 is now known as rchandra 14:51:27 -!- Lawman has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:57:17 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:00:20 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:01:18 -!- Quazifuji_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03:06 !lg Bloax -tv 15:03:07 761. Bloax, XL6 NaAM, T:1908 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 15:03:22 !lg Bloax DDMo -tv 15:03:23 3. 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'Nyo.'"] 16:42:17 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:06 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:45:06 !messages 16:45:07 No messages for TZer0. 16:45:41 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:51:07 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:56:40 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 16:56:47 -!- GoblinBomb has quit [Client Quit] 16:57:30 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:57:56 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 17:00:20 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:00:22 -!- Raycaster has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:05:48 -!- Quazifuji_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:06:32 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-193-gf781f13 (34) 17:06:41 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:40 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:07:51 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:11:17 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 17:13:21 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:14:14 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:14:44 is the android-build outdated? 17:16:09 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:04 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 17:18:40 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 17:19:42 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:20:56 very 17:21:16 it's also reportedly fairly painful 17:21:44 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:24:39 hm 17:25:29 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26:25 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 17:29:18 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:33:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:33:43 Is this splat funny enough? 17:33:44 !lg Bloax DDMo 3 -tv:> 17:33:45 3. 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(D (Sprint)) 21:27:26 Pyromatic (L2 DsGl) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3258 failed. (D (Sprint)) 21:28:03 Pyromatic (L2 DsGl) ASSERT(!in_bounds(you.pos()) || !cell_is_solid(you.pos()) || you.wizmode_teleported_into_rock) in 'main.cc' at line 3258 failed. (D (Sprint)) 21:28:43 -!- sd1989 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:29:06 !messages 21:29:07 (1/1) gammafunk said (1d 23h 23m 17s ago): Go CKR! 21:29:43 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 21:30:50 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:31:23 -!- home has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:44 -!- sd1989 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:40:33 03Sage02 07* 0.15-a0-194-g5cf84e4: Remove a couple of pointless vaults. 10(26 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5cf84e482584 21:40:36 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:41:30 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:47:29 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:22 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 21:54:18 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:54:19 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 21:55:07 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 21:58:10 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:59:07 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:35 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:59:38 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:59:58 -!- rax has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:06 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:08 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:57 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:44 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:11:51 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:46 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:46 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 22:13:46 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:13:51 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Client Quit] 22:17:47 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:24:03 Say, is anyone opposed to removing Komodo sickbite and increasing their damage by ~4 22:28:09 -!- GDR has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30:07 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:32:06 I'm not a dev, but if you remove sickbite you should remove komodo dragons imo, it's their only distinguishing characteristic 22:33:13 that is also an option 22:34:14 what if Sick didn't fully prevent healing? 22:34:24 just temporary worst slow healing 22:34:35 and then yea, bump up the dmg a bit 22:34:43 ??slow heal 22:34:43 slow heal ~ slow healing[1/1]: Each level reduces natural regeneration by one third. Applied after everything except {Trog's Hand}. From 0.14, level 1 halves regen and level 2 stops it, but only while hostile monsters are in LOS. Level 3 still stops regen regardless of monsters in LOS. Each level also slows stat loss recovery by 1/3. 22:34:53 oh 22:34:55 maybe level 2 22:35:27 ??sick 22:35:27 sick[1/2]: When you are sick, your hit points do not regenerate, and you may occasionally suffer one-point stat drains. The stat drains can be avoided with a ring of sustain abilities, and the sickness can be removed most commonly with time or with a potion of curing. 22:36:51 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:19 What would the point be though 22:38:09 you could give Sick the manticore barb healing mechanic 22:38:43 no regen is a significant and unique challenge in combat, the trouble is then you're out of combat and it's annoying 22:39:34 Is it a challenge? 22:40:05 it does less than old poison and old poison was almost never relevant in combat 22:40:30 if it blocks curing/hw it is! 22:40:44 run run run as fast as you can 22:41:25 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:42:17 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 22:43:15 hmm 22:43:22 !lg * recent place=lair s=killer 22:43:24 22257 games for * (recent place=lair): 1766x a spiny frog, 1230x a death yak, 1198x a blink frog, 1055x a black mamba, 1012x a komodo dragon, 938x an eight-headed hydra, 935x, 777x a yak, 748x a seven-headed hydra, 735x Rupert, 554x a six-headed hydra, 396x a five-headed hydra, 391x a fire drake, 377x an electric eel, 342x a wolf, 323x a boulder beetle, 307x Maud, 293x a dire elephant, 286x Snorg,... 22:44:33 !lg * killer=~komodo place=lair s=place 22:44:34 2604 games for * (killer=~komodo place=lair): 906x Lair:1, 547x Lair:2, 344x Lair:3, 245x Lair:4, 156x Lair:5, 128x Lair:7, 124x Lair:6, 121x Lair:8, 26x Lair:9, 7x Lair:10 22:44:36 it certainly feels dangerous 22:44:45 it could be a misconception on my part tho 22:45:39 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 26-52 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 22:45:39 %??yak 22:45:43 komodo dragon (04l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 8 | HP: 28-59 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 3007(disease) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(32), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 313 | Sz: Large | Int: reptile. 22:45:43 %??komodo dragon 22:48:00 hmm 22:48:29 very vicious yak 22:48:45 !lg * place=lair status~~sick status~~pois 22:48:46 No games for * (place=lair status~~sick status~~pois). 22:48:54 !lg * place=lair status~~pois 22:48:55 7215. qw the Severer (L11 DDGl of Dithmenos), slain by Maud (a +2,+1 eveningstar of draining) on Lair:4 on 2014-04-22 01:19:39, with 13687 points after 9405 turns and 0:07:25. 22:49:15 !lg * place=lair status=diseased 22:49:17 333. Shine the Transmogrifier (L11 DrTm of Ashenzari), slain by a black mamba on Lair:4 on 2014-04-20 23:14:10, with 14688 points after 17741 turns and 1:53:21. 22:49:28 !lg * place=lair status~~disease status~~pois 22:49:30 134. caleba the Severer (L13 DDCj of Makhleb), slain by a death yak on Lair:7 on 2014-04-19 17:59:54, with 38928 points after 12617 turns and 0:43:46. 22:49:59 nrook: if your regen rate is 0.5 HP per turn, no regen is the same as doing 0.5 HP to you per turn 22:50:14 which is pretty tiny 22:51:08 it really is a very similar effect to weak poison 22:51:22 and there's no good reason to keep both 22:51:24 komodo dragons would be cooler with a really strong grab instead of sickness 22:51:51 yeah, I suppose you're right 22:52:47 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:52:55 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:01:35 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:04:30 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04:47 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 23:06:06 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08:14 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:11:20 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:14:02 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:06 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:16:35 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:08 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:20:57 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25:31 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 23:26:02 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:08 03Sage02 07* 0.15-a0-195-g844f214: Make komodo dragons bite harder, remove sickbite. 10(19 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=844f214cef96 23:27:35 huh 23:27:43 oh wow it got through 23:28:26 -!- thetabyte is now known as insanityfarm 23:28:53 I suppose this breaks a many years long streak of turning yaks into not yaks by turning a not yak into a yak 23:28:59 -!- ToastyP has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29:22 -!- insanityfarm is now known as thetabyte 23:29:22 except not because not pack so w/e 23:30:04 also it does rather a lot more damage than a yak (even more than a death yak) 23:30:21 mega yak 23:30:53 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:31:03 I'd say to add back the komodo dragon description, but it was inaccurate 23:31:11 turns out real life komodo dragons are actually fairly hygenic 23:31:16 elliptic: then again, rather less accurate 23:31:20 (than death yaks) 23:31:30 yeah 23:31:47 yes when the discussion started the first thing I did was to compare them to death yaks 23:32:03 I was mildly surprised at seeing they had the same 30 dam 23:32:21 but I forgot about HD doing its stuff 23:32:32 In any case, if you have a clever mechanic for komodos that won't annoy me 23:32:39 entering the abyss in a closed off area is a rare feature, not a bug, right? 23:32:43 also, what happened to that hell ending 23:32:45 <|amethyst> what about magenta ugly things? 23:32:49 please tell me 23:32:52 by which I mean the lair hell ending 23:33:01 I don't remember there being a hell beast there before 23:33:11 |amethyst: Hits for sticky sickness 23:33:41 Basil: I was going to suggest "sick + a good amount of poison" but I feared I would be shot 23:33:54 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 23:35:06 hmm 23:35:08 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:35:13 <|amethyst> %git bee4e73 23:35:16 07tenofswords02 {|amethyst} * 0.14-a0-1346-gbee4e73: Lair.des clean-up, lair end interest edits 10(5 months ago, 2 files, 572+ 926-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bee4e73e5d6d 23:35:33 And I might be shot for re-adding sickbite so that path is closed 23:35:36 Oh well, what a shame. 23:35:44 oh 23:35:58 sick+poison is basically "more poison" 23:36:04 eb: sick + poison is ^ 23:36:08 "a little more poison" 23:36:26 And since poison is rather aggressive now, that is not a big little 23:36:35 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:37:40 well it's hard to suggest things when nobody likes anything that is not fsim 23:38:04 effect can be nullified by walk way + 5? bad 23:38:17 effect forces you to fight instead of walking away and hitting 5? bad 23:38:26 I liked the grab idea 23:38:30 so yeah I'm glad I'm not a dev 23:38:41 you mean constriction 23:38:53 Like I said, sick did ~nothing 23:39:32 idk. snapping turtles are cool 23:39:45 give it nasty statrot 23:39:57 haha, yes, like ghost moth poison 23:41:08 make it's bite slow you down 23:41:22 curse skull (11z) | Spd: 10 (move: 70%) | HD: 13 | HP: 55 | AC/EV: 25/3 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 04fire+++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1257 | Sp: sum.undead, s.torment | Sz: tiny | Int: high. 23:41:22 %??curse skull 23:41:28 yellow wasp (08y) | Spd: 15 | HD: 4 | HP: 13-32 | AC/EV: 5/14 | Dam: 1304(paralyse) | fly | Res: 06magic(16) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 126 | Sz: tiny | Int: insect. 23:41:28 <|amethyst> %??yellow wasp 23:41:57 Curarebite was a consideration 23:42:09 I'm not really sure why komodo dragons lacking a gimmick bothers people more than crocodiles lacking a gimmick does 23:42:26 just rename to dire crocodile 23:42:30 crocodile (07t) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 20 | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(20), 12drown | XP: 106 | Sz: Large | Int: reptile. 23:42:30 %??crocodile 23:42:33 yak (07Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 7 | HP: 26-52 | AC/EV: 4/7 | Dam: 18 | Res: 06magic(28) | XP: 205 | Sz: Large | Int: animal. 23:42:33 %??yak 23:42:47 dont you see that swim:60% 23:42:50 looks like a gimmick to me 23:42:53 oh oops 23:42:54 :p 23:43:02 solution: make komod dragon amphibious?? 23:43:02 -!- bzn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:43:05 crocs never actually show up in water, though 23:43:07 s/mod/modo/ 23:43:09 komodo dragon (04l) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 8 | HP: 28-59 | AC/EV: 7/8 | Dam: 3007(disease) | amphibious, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(32), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 313 | Sz: Large | Int: reptile. 23:43:09 <|amethyst> %??komodo dragon 23:43:12 oh 23:43:13 hahah 23:43:13 PleasingFungus: shhhh 23:43:14 well then 23:43:14 haha 23:43:17 wow i didnt even know that 23:43:18 The komodo dragon hamstrings you! 23:43:18 but crate, you'd quit if that swim:60% ever came into play since that'd mean there was water 23:43:21 seems like everything is fine 23:43:22 You feel yourself slow down. 23:44:05 komodos with slowbite sounds not terrible i guess 23:44:10 Maybe make each bite take off 1 mhp??? 23:44:43 Black Deathmodo 23:46:18 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:46:26 hahaha 23:46:30 rot komodo 23:46:37 not rot 23:46:43 yeah I know 23:47:31 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:35 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:18 -!- yogidabear has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:49:52 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 23:51:35 -!- eb has quit [] 23:55:41 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 23:57:14 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]