00:00:28 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-174-gc8a6302: Don't allow raskshasa's BAND_RANDOM_SINGLE in monsterless branches. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c8a6302a1e42 00:00:28 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-175-g4f51c47: Allow BAND_RANDOM_SINGLE to select from vault-defined monster lists. 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 21+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4f51c470f0a7 00:00:28 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 00:01:15 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.0-16-gc76c4f0 00:01:26 %git stone_soup-0.14 00:01:26 07Grunt02 * 0.14.0-17-gc0b17a5: Don't allow raskshasa's BAND_RANDOM_SINGLE in monsterless branches. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c0b17a5d1b98 00:01:32 ...missed it by that much :( 00:02:55 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 00:03:13 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:03 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:48 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 00:07:22 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-175-g4f51c47 (34) 00:08:11 kick me? 00:08:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:08:29 !kick Cabadath 00:10:26 Grunt: should have hasted yourself! 00:14:40 -!- pisano1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:15:31 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 00:16:56 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 00:17:57 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:18:32 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:18:54 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:18 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:25:42 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:25:42 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 00:25:43 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 00:32:48 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:35:30 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:36:42 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:38:09 -!- SkiChan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:40:28 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:41:44 it seems weird that undead can petrify but not change forms 00:42:32 -!- agolden has quit [Quit: agolden] 00:43:38 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:44:29 Petrification is slowly turning something to stone, so there's not too much surprising with that. 00:44:56 but it doesn't explain why they can't use statue form seeing as said spell turns you into a big statue of yourself 00:45:20 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:46:32 magic 00:46:50 no, no 00:46:55 that's not the word you're looking for 00:47:03 the word you're looking for is "crawl logic" 00:47:12 (clearly this is a single word) 00:49:59 crawlogic 00:50:21 crawlogicality 00:56:08 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:00:31 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 01:00:50 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 01:04:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 01:07:05 -!- Fin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:08:42 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:09:56 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 01:10:30 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:11:04 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:16:23 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:19:44 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140411030201]] 01:21:22 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:22:08 -!- myrmidette has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:23:17 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 01:26:14 I see SpEn got nerfed 01:27:08 !nerf Lightli 01:27:08 * Sequell nerfs Lightli! 01:27:14 -!- Kaput has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:29:14 pls to buff castah 01:30:05 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 01:33:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:36:06 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 01:36:24 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:37:19 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 01:49:26 Sabaki (L21 VpFi) (Depths:3) 01:49:40 !lm sabaki crash -log 01:49:41 17. Sabaki, XL4 HaWn, T:1693 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Sabaki/crash-Sabaki-20130825-070910.txt 01:49:43 -!- Sabaki has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:12 Sabaki (L21 VpFi) (Depths:3) 01:50:34 oh huh, 0.13-a0? 01:50:41 hmm 01:50:52 playing on trunk on czso 01:51:14 seems to happen when i attempt to enter U:3 01:51:47 oh right yeah, i brought up a crash log but it's the wrong character entirely 01:51:56 !lm sabaki -crash 01:51:57 Unknown option: crash 01:52:00 !lm sabaki crash 01:52:01 19. [2014-04-18 06:50:09] Sabaki the Imperceptible (L21 VpFi of Dithmenos) ? (Depths:3) 01:52:04 !lm sabaki crash -log 01:52:04 19. Sabaki, XL21 VpFi, T:51108 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Sabaki/crash-Sabaki-20140418-065009.txt 01:52:39 i crashed it 2x in the last couple minutes both trying ot enter U:3 01:56:42 Its always impressive how quickly the devs look into problems in this game :D 01:58:12 well, i'm not sure i can figure out what's going on there unfortunately :P 01:58:13 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 01:59:03 it looks possibly related a different rakshasa thing from earlier but i'm not really sure, could you report it on mantis? if you can make a save backup that'd probably help too 02:00:00 (on the advanced options menu, and then just paste the link it gives you into the mantis issue) 02:00:15 Sure ill put one in 02:00:23 thanks for looking into it 02:00:47 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 02:03:57 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:06:54 Crashes when attempting to enter next level by igomadness 02:16:00 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11879 *shrug* 02:16:37 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.0-17-gc0b17a5 02:18:44 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:19:09 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:23 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-175-g4f51c47 (34) 02:29:29 -!- Satonakaja has quit [Quit: Sayonara, Zetsubou Sensei!] 02:36:11 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:38:45 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:39:14 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 02:42:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:44:11 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:44:13 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:46:39 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 02:47:39 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:47:39 -!- quinoa_rex has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:50:00 -!- Spatzist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:50:51 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:53:01 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:55:57 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 02:56:21 -!- Assbag has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:57:48 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:25 -!- Oddbjorg has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:03:48 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:04:00 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04:20 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:06:14 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:03 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:12:18 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 03:18:57 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 03:19:02 -!- agolden has quit [Client Quit] 03:22:45 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-176-gb130e13: Fix shambling mangroves not being neutral under Fedhas 10(19 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b130e1375b16 03:22:47 Shambling mangroves are hostile if you worship Fedhas by crate 03:29:01 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33:43 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:36:03 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:39:21 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:55 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:42:36 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11880 03:43:08 MarvinPA so in Stable...would you incur penance for killing the hostile plant? 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Use !messages to read them. 05:44:33 I last saw |amethyst at Thu Apr 17 20:32:00 2014 UTC (14h 12m 33s ago) saying '"demon" is "hell beast" clearly' on ##crawl-dev. 05:44:38 !messages 05:44:38 (1/5) PleasingFungus said (1w 1d 15h 21m 51s ago): Yeah, offering interesting decisions like that is pretty great. It's why artifacts like Ponderhat are so much more interesting than Alchemist's Hat... 05:44:45 !messages 05:44:45 (1/4) dpeg said (3d 11h 38m 21s ago): neops the Thaumaturge (L10 MuWz), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by a minotaur (the cursed -2,-5 hand axe of neops' Instant Death) in a Labyrinth (labyrinth_spiral) on 2012-02-20 12:00:15 05:45:36 !messages 05:45:36 (1/3) gammafunk said (3d 11h 31m 46s ago): yabod !lg gammafunk optm place=snake:3 05:45:59 !messages 05:45:59 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:46:00 (1/2) Cabadath said (3d 54m 13s ago): What if Cheibriados's buffs adjusted to what your character needs (like Jiyva's shuffling) instead of being a flat equal boost across all stats. (Just a minor boost idea that might make him more relevant for more characters) 05:46:06 !messages 05:46:06 (1/1) Lasty2 said (22h 19m 52s ago): Quazifuji posted a pretty good representation of my goals in the burst-of-speed proposal. The idea is to force an end to the encounter, either via the guaranteed swings from the monster while sped up or the guaranteed falling behind afterward 05:46:34 Lasty: yes, I am following that thread. :) 05:46:58 !tell |amethyst Should we make an announcement that CSZO is up again? 05:46:58 dpeg: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 05:49:16 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 05:50:23 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:09 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:57 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:56:45 -!- NeremWo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:04:52 -!- SomeoneAwful has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:06:10 -!- iFurril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:09:57 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:12:17 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:15:13 -!- MisterEarlybird has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:16:22 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:14 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:36 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:24 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:25:43 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:34:09 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 06:37:33 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:38:32 -!- qoala has quit [] 06:46:47 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 06:48:07 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 07:01:07 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:07:22 <|amethyst> dpeg: I did an update to the wordpress post, but if you think a separate post would be good then yes 07:07:22 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:07:34 <|amethyst> dpeg: it's back up anyway 07:14:03 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:15:52 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:42 -!- mumi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:05 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:20:03 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:20:51 -!- cognificent has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:23:38 dpeg: I was just hoping to discuss it w/ you yesterday -- you're usually around that time of day. :) 07:25:32 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 07:26:36 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:27:18 -!- grujah has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:37:38 -!- st_ has quit [] 07:44:02 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 07:45:54 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:07 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:42 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:53:16 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:57:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: 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KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:10:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26:35 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:29:22 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:54 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:14 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:33 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:32:36 03PleasingFungus02 {wheals} 07* 0.15-a0-177-g23e63a0: Put an end to magically floating arachno-merplayers 10(11 hours ago, 1 file, 14+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=23e63a04bbac 09:32:36 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-178-g5c7c912: Make treeform player-sized. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 33-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5c7c912003b1 09:33:14 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:33:39 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:33:48 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:35:37 -!- bmfx has quit [Quit: Lost 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Also, I am not around much: Easter with the family 09:55:00 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 09:55:38 -!- Sabaki has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:06 -!- Fin has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:58:48 random idea of today: what would you think of a Leviathan portal vault? 09:59:17 (a moving portal symbol in the deep water area of Shoals, be quick to jump in before the thing submerges forever) 10:00:18 I lack ideas of what to do inside, though :) 10:00:26 dpeg: ah, gotcha! Enjoy your Easter weekend. 10:00:30 Frohe Ostern :) 10:00:37 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:40 <|amethyst> dpeg: Jonas in the fish 10:00:45 hey, thanks 10:00:45 <|amethyst> dpeg: err, Jonah 10:00:49 Inside you dodge krakens to get loot? 10:00:50 |amethyst: is that the same story_ 10:01:14 cool idea, but potentially annoying for characters without flight/swimming (already major issue in Shoals) 10:01:54 <|amethyst> dpeg: the book of the Bible 10:02:28 <|amethyst> dpeg: but it's not identified as Leviathan 10:03:07 |amethyst: yes, you are right 10:03:14 Leviathan doesn't fit :( 10:03:59 could make it a shoals encompass vault! 10:04:07 drachereborn: hey, I had to skip Baileys because I couldn't get across the moat :) 10:04:48 wheals: shaped-like a whale! 10:05:21 It is as big as whale. 10:06:22 plus, it's another use for fleshy orifices 10:06:41 oh yes! 10:06:55 cannot go wrong with killing players through fleshy orifices 10:07:06 1learn add 10:07:40 <|amethyst> Grunt: I got me a branch, it's as big as a whale / and we're heading on down to the Rune Shack 10:07:51 * Grunt cackles. 10:08:00 |amethyst: where's that from? 10:08:07 <|amethyst> dpeg: "Love Shack" by the B-52s 10:08:17 <|amethyst> late 80s 10:08:18 ah, now I see 10:08:32 |amethyst must be really old. 10:08:41 * dpeg suggests immanent fossilisation. 10:08:54 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09:07 <|amethyst> :) 10:09:13 imminnent? English's hard! 10:09:55 lol |amethyst 10:10:07 <|amethyst> eminent fossilisation 10:10:28 I looked it up in LEO, I think I meant "imminent" :) 10:10:32 <|amethyst> (imminent is probably the one you were looking for, yeah) 10:12:42 -!- Xenobreeder__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:13:15 -!- nosrepemos has quit [] 10:16:10 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:47 !seen Grunt 10:17:47 I last saw Grunt at Fri Apr 18 15:17:46 2014 UTC (1s ago) saying 'Good death.' on ##crawl. 10:17:51 dpeg: hi! 10:17:54 Hi! 10:18:57 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 10:19:42 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:20:08 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:23 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:48 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:30:01 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:33:41 -!- MisterEarlybird has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34:07 thoughts on removing all ally management options except "pick up everything they want" 10:34:48 i was thinking of removing that too 10:37:01 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 10:37:02 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:37:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:38:15 maybe a LoS-based ally-pickup exclusion would be of some use though? 10:38:16 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:51 or am I the only one who stashes stuff in lots of little piles 10:38:51 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:39:04 if it's on the ground you don't need it! 10:39:05 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:39:20 (if it is something allies can pick up) 10:39:28 what can they pick up nowadays anyway 10:39:44 weapons, armour and shields (though they will always go for 2h) 10:39:50 apparently 10:40:00 *body armour 10:40:35 hmm, well, okay, so you just need a couple of rocks with a "don't pick up here" notation on them if you just want it for stashes ... 10:40:47 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 10:41:08 ebarrett: I wanted to suggest at some point that monsters don't pick up items in generam 10:41:24 hm 10:41:31 massive beogh nerf :( 10:41:43 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:41:52 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41:52 Beogh would take care of orcs equipment, yes 10:41:55 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:38 well when he gifts you orcs these tend to be decently equipped 10:43:33 do they just use the normal orc item generation and I got lucky the few times I noticed? 10:47:43 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48:30 Spriggan Enchanter MP capacity problem by Monmorency 10:48:59 {anti 10:51:39 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:52:12 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:52:56 ebarrett: it might be somewhat-buffed orc item generation 10:53:59 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:35 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:55:45 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57:16 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:00 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.0-17-gc0b17a5 11:04:48 -!- Fin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:13:05 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:46 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 11:17:06 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:21:48 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:26:10 -!- Wolfram has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:27:57 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:28:34 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:21 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:32 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 11:35:09 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:47 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 11:37:39 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:37:53 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 11:41:16 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:41 -!- notclule has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:43:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:45:07 -!- notcluie has quit [Client Quit] 11:46:49 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:27 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:52:05 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:52:12 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:06 -!- Eracar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56:00 -!- MisterEarlybird has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:57:11 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:32 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59:58 -!- Sabaki_|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:27 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:00:50 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:01:42 -!- Sabaki has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:01:50 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:08 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.0-17-gc0b17a5 12:05:08 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:05:31 -!- drachereborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:11:11 spriggan druid (03i) | Spd: 10 (move: 60%) | HD: 11 | HP: 35-52 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Dam: 18 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(102), 03poison | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 729 | Sp: stone arrow (3d18), awaken forest, druid's call, 04esc:minor healing (2d5) | Sz: little | Int: high. 12:11:11 %??Spriggan druid 12:13:49 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-178-g5c7c912 (34) 12:15:35 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:16:03 -!- Crehl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:16:18 -!- Fin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:18:00 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:23 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:20:39 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:54 -!- pythonsnake has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2] 12:28:45 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:29:30 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:29:41 -!- hotsun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:32:09 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 12:34:24 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:31 -!- Cipher__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:38:37 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:46 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:46:12 -!- Eracar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:46:58 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:50:08 -!- yomi_ is now known as Guest99873 12:50:28 -!- nico- has quit [Client Quit] 12:52:46 We're getting a funny little claim here that spell failure is tied to tension. 12:52:52 it seems unlikely, but is it so? 12:54:23 Bloax: That seems ludicrious. I guess it could be something like faq[3 12:54:31 What's the context. 12:54:42 Mara and the Clustering Illusions 12:54:45 that sounds liable to confirmation bias to me 12:55:42 Hey devfolk, why does this line in player melee have a one_chance_in() call? 12:55:42 damage_done = 12:55:42 potential_damage > 0 ? one_chance_in(3) + random2(potential_damage) : 0; 12:56:41 It looks like that's just adding 1/3 of a point to player damage. 12:56:55 Lasty: You'll see much worse code if you plump Crawl's depths. 12:57:26 reaverb: should I read that as "don't ask, mortal minds cannot withstand the horrors"? 12:57:41 reaverb: Someone's claiming that the shown spell failure is the average between the failure at high and the one at low tension. 12:58:23 Lasty: I'd have to see context. Reading Crawl code is like if somebody wrote a message on the face of a rubix cube, and then scrambled it. 12:58:35 Bloax: Probably just some clueless person/troll. 12:58:51 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00:08 Tolias (L24 HETm) ASSERT(range >= 0) in 'beam.cc' at line 625 failed. (beam 'fireball', source 'tengu reaver', item 'none'; has range -1) (Vaults:5) 13:00:12 also the problem with thinking that is that most spells are offensive, so they're naturally going to be used mostly at high tension 13:00:29 add confirmation bias and you get silly hypotheses like that 13:00:34 -!- MisterEarlybird has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:00:40 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:00:57 Lasty: Yes, all it does it have ⅓ chance of adding 1 damage to the player's current damage, after a random2(damage) check. 13:01:28 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:01:39 Lasty: Good luck understanding what that actually does given all the functions which modify that value after, but I imagine it's influence might actually be nonnegligable during the early game. 13:01:41 reaverb: . . . okay, weird 13:01:59 I also noticed that monster damage is randomly reduced by 1d3 for some reason 13:02:24 Reading this code makes me want to airstrike in some comments :p 13:02:29 Lasty: Plenty grandfathered in stat claculations. are overcomplicated for no particular reason. 13:02:40 Lasty: Add comment! Put them in patch on mantis! They'll go in! 13:02:49 Lasty: As long as they're correct. 13:02:53 Yeah, but to add them I need to understand 13:03:09 I can't just put in comments like "and now we subtract 1d3 because leprechauns" 13:03:22 "Nobody knows. " x 500 13:03:28 exactly 13:03:39 Lasty: Ok, if you manage to understand it. But if you do, you have a duty to make sure no coder ever has to go through this madness again. 13:03:43 -!- Bloax has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03:55 -!- Fin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:04:16 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 13:04:33 haha, true 13:04:44 Lasty: You know, Cryptic (I think that acutal name has a bunch of numbers in it) did a melee rewirte a while back, might want to see if that happened then. One sec, I'll git blame it. 13:05:28 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 13:05:46 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:43 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:53 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10:55 Lasty: So far I discovered that bit of code is at least over 3 years old. 13:11:05 That does not surprise me at all 13:11:32 I know how it goes with weird little twitches of ancient code. 13:12:02 -!- tabstorm has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:12:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:47 It is in class, which either means it was developed at some point past Stone Soup's origin, or it was imported to a class later. 13:12:55 I'm betting on the second, though. 13:15:48 Lasty: that "add a random offset to the damage done" is to to get a better average damage done, it's not in class. 13:16:08 (I know without looking, I've been through the melee code at least 100 times now) 13:16:12 haha 13:16:48 When you say it's to get a better average damage done, do you mean that the purpose is to very slightly raise average damage? 13:17:10 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:10 yes, and to make the max damage for a '10 damage weapon' actually be '10' 13:17:24 (because random2(10) gives 0-9 damage done) 13:18:03 so 0-9 +(1:3 chance of 1) gives 0-10, but changes the average by a very small margin. 13:18:32 (specifically from 4.5 to (4.5 + (1/6)) 13:18:49 roughly 13:18:58 combinatorial odds are weird. 13:19:00 extremely roughly 4.7 13:19:40 Wouldn't it be better to do random2(damage + 1)? 13:20:11 But then 0 max damage would still be able to do damage 13:20:29 Well, it can do that anyway 1 in 3 times 13:20:31 except how many things have 0 max damage 13:20:42 Blowguns, afaik that's it. 13:21:04 Lasty: no it can only do the 1:3 chance if the thing actually did damage 13:21:14 (So 0 damage is still 0 damage) 13:21:43 if random2(10) is max 9; is random2(1) (= random2(0 + 1)) max 0? 13:21:53 Hm, good point. 13:22:05 keeping the potential_damage > 0 ? : part, i assume 13:22:14 true, but the random2() only happens on the same case 13:22:35 blackcustard: yes 13:22:55 Lemme go look at random2 real quick I might be misremembering. 13:23:00 ??random2 13:23:00 random2[1/1]: 1dN - 1 13:23:16 Ok, well, that seems to be what I thought it was :) 13:23:22 That point only sort of makes sense. 13:23:44 (Btw, the code use to just be 1 + random2(potential_damage) in ancient times.) 13:23:46 -!- Cabadath has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:00 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 13:24:01 Can't find when one_chance_in(3) was added without more sleuthing. 13:24:06 Ah so the 1:3 thing was a nerf :) 13:24:42 which makes sense, for all those "I'm going to melee you with a dart wielded" cases, I suppose.... 13:24:43 I still think random2(potential_damage+1) is the ideal solution 13:24:56 Well, that would be a very slight buff. 13:24:58 yes 13:25:03 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:03 and it would be clean and intelligble 13:25:06 (Almost incosequencial) 13:25:44 I think a "better solution" would be to rewrite those formulas to actually make sense. 13:25:48 I think crawl balance can probably take an additional 17% chance of having 1 damage added to melee attacks. 13:26:15 Lasty: Just a note, I think that would be relevant early game when you're doing like 6 damage. 13:26:40 Or like 2 or 3 in the case of daggers 13:26:48 Relevant, yes, but not in to a degree that breaks the game. If anything, it makes the first few dungeon levels less completely awful 13:26:58 *awful in the sense of dangerous 13:26:58 so it would be 1d6 instead of 1d5 + 1/3 i guess 13:27:15 3.5, instead of 3.333333 13:27:34 not very significant, and even less so at higher damage 13:27:36 it would be 1d5-1 instead of 1d4-1 + (1/3 chance of 1) 13:27:41 er 13:27:43 Lasty: I don't agree with that logic. Making the early game less dangerous is not necessarily better, and Meleers already have the easiest early game for newer players. 13:27:47 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11879 13:27:51 it's not like crawl is one of those games where if you survive to a certain point, you can be pretty much assured of winning if you don't screw up ... 13:28:02 er, yeah 13:28:10 honestly if we're talking such minor numbers, cleanliness is a good trait 13:28:19 -!- Ragnor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:28:20 reaverb: but almost everyone has to melee in the early game 13:28:39 Revised: it would be 1d6-1 instead of 1d5-1 + (1/3 chance of 1) 13:28:39 Just so long as blowguns don't start doing damage to undead :) 13:28:43 ha, yeah 13:28:48 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:28:52 It'd still be in the right part of the ternary operator 13:29:06 even the castahest of castahs can run out of mp 13:29:06 the what now 13:29:28 no, you wouldn't need the ?: at that point 13:29:30 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:29:32 Oh, wait this is melee only nvm, although I think there might be something similar in throw.cc 13:29:41 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 13:30:05 reaverb: casters just melee with crummy weapons and no skills; the smaller damage is, the more important that possible 1 extra point is. 13:30:06 (I'm not sure what you could wield that would do 0 max damage in melee, maybe if you wielded a 0 weight non-weapon?) 13:30:30 like a scroll or something? 13:31:02 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:33 Scrolls weigh 2 13:31:50 ranged weapons too 13:32:21 anything that isn't a melee weapon has 0 max damage 13:32:33 Yeah, Lasty you wouldn't need the terinary operator because blackcustard is right, random2(1) is 0-0 damage. 13:32:42 Good point 13:32:42 Lasty: I don't feel I know enough to make any further statements here, other than to reiterate I think the change would be relevant enough it should not be done without looking at it's game balance effects. 13:33:09 Tell ya what: I'll put in a Mantis mention, and I can let the other devs kick it around 13:33:16 -!- robotcentaur has quit [Client Quit] 13:36:02 SamB I'd say that's usually true; but if doing a particularly hard build that point is later for some characters than other. Like... a High Int Tengu can get Tornado up by XL15 and be insured of winning...a Troll, has it easy early, but then there's a point where the apts start to hurt around 2nd rune. That different races/build have a dierent amount before getting to that point is interesting. 13:37:05 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:04 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:40:18 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:27 Clean up a weird bit of melee damage code by Lasty 13:42:12 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 13:42:30 !stats huwn 13:42:31 Wanderer starting stats are random. 13:45:25 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:46:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 13:47:36 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:54 it looks like natasha's items are still bugged :( 13:54:18 -!- Gramm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:56:43 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 13:56:51 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:05 or maybe the fix just isn't in 0.14 13:57:15 -!- Basil is now known as Guest23143 13:57:44 oh yeah never mind looks like i never cherrypicked it 13:57:51 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 13:57:54 and i paid the price, no heal wounds wand for me 14:02:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:02:48 haha 14:05:18 wheals: well at least you won't be meeting rakshasas on d:9 14:05:30 what? 14:05:45 it's an unfunny joke 14:06:21 was this to do with the rakshasa bug yesterday? 14:07:17 wheals: :( :( :( 14:07:25 that would be far too intricate for a terrible joke like this 14:07:27 your treeform change 14:07:35 broke the doxygen comment I added in the previous patch 14:07:51 , and checks to see if they'll be killed 14:07:52 601 * when transforming back (treeform in deep water). 14:07:56 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:00 rude !!! 14:08:13 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:17 oh 14:08:20 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 14:08:50 wheals: did your irc blip just now lose the message I sent about treeform 14:08:56 i see it in the logs 14:09:02 oh 14:09:06 I should figure out how to use irc logs 14:12:49 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 14:12:50 The vault "minmay_temple_entry_spiral" can generate traps and make temple inaccessible by genericpseudonym 14:13:04 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-179-gb770d62: Documentation fix (PleasingFungus). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b770d6204bdf 14:13:39 yesss. 14:13:46 first, one function will be correctly documented. 14:13:49 next, the entire codebase! 14:15:18 Khanman (L27 GrGl) (Depths:3) 14:16:04 !crashlog khanman 14:16:05 1. Khanman, XL27 GrGl, T:94785 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Khanman/crash-Khanman-20140418-191514.txt 14:16:17 that's a lot of program bugs 14:16:52 looks like shadow creature problem 14:19:30 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:20:22 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:48 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 14:21:56 wheals: That meantion Rasakakas, so maybe it didn't get the recent fix? 14:22:26 just saying since "The boggart casts a spell." is the last thing that happens 14:22:27 No, it had the fix - maybe it was caused by the fix? 14:22:36 possibly 14:23:14 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 14:23:16 rakshasa (08R) | Spd: 10 | HD: 11 | HP: 45-84 | AC/EV: 10/14 | Dam: 20 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(146), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 993 | Sp: mystic blast (3d16), phantom mirror, blink | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 14:23:16 %??Rakshasa 14:23:21 ouchies 14:24:49 !tell Grunt !lm khanman crash 1 -log -- this seems to be related to shadow creatures, so was it possibly affected by your fix? 14:24:50 wheals: OK, I'll let grunt know. 14:26:03 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:26:05 Does anybody else find it odd stat changes get special announcments (ex. "You feel stupid") but basically every other change doesn't? Taking off an MR ring is much more relevant than removing a +1 str ring. 14:26:14 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26:32 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 14:27:09 reaverb: at one point stat changes could cause instadeath 14:27:23 I thought removing MR did give a message. 14:27:28 no 14:27:28 wheals: Hmm, that makes sense. It doesn't anymore. 14:27:32 Like "you feel less protected". 14:27:36 reaverb: good point. I'd love to see those messages removed. 14:27:40 yeah, there's a patch on mantis to do so 14:27:53 You transform into a spider. You feel stupid! You feel clumsy! You feel weak! 14:29:19 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:42 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:29:48 wheals: Hmm, do you object to pushing it / don't think it's worth / think other devs should weigh in? 14:30:17 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:30:22 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:25 the patch doesn't exist right now, there was a code problem with it and a fixed version hasn't been posted 14:30:45 i'd probably just ask here if anyone had any objections and then just commit it 14:31:14 wheals: Ah, Ok, I'll reimplement it. Do you know what issue it is off hand? 14:31:23 !bug 7757 14:31:33 -!- Sequell has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:32:30 Gah, of course chris deleted the old patch, so I have no idea where the to start looking. 14:32:48 Anyway to recover deleted mantis files? I guess a grep wouldn't be too much trouble. 14:32:53 superterranean (L21 TrMo) ASSERT(in_bounds(mg.pos)) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 3760 failed. (D (Sprint)) 14:33:23 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:33:39 no idea; i'd probably just start from scratch 14:34:21 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:51 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:37:54 -!- scummos__ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:40:07 wheals: I'll have to look at this, the message is very Crawl code-ish (i.e, the message can be made by around 6+ differant functions) 14:40:15 heh 14:43:56 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:46:55 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:47:10 wheals: Yeah, this is my fault. I'll fix it when I get home later. 14:48:14 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49:19 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:53:32 ??test 14:53:48 rip Sequell 14:54:28 -!- brainwrinkle__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:53 hrm, ssh not working to cszo for me, but webtiles is fine 14:55:57 <|amethyst> same hostname both times? 14:56:04 <|amethyst> try ssh to dobrazupa.org instead 14:56:09 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:40 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:57 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 14:58:19 |amethyst: yeah, that works 14:58:37 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:01 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:14 tool/tile.cc:9:25: fatal error: SDL_image.h: No such file or directory 14:59:44 nvm. i did update not iniot 14:59:53 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:05 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:23 <|amethyst> gammafunk: I'm getting duplicate ping responses to the crawl.s-z.org IP specifically, so there's probably still some routing weirdness 15:00:59 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:04:23 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:04:28 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:04:46 -!- Guest23143 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:05:08 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:06:47 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:07:31 -!- Zerkmund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:57 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:20 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11:56 -!- pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:13:02 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14:09 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Quit: BREAK] 15:14:34 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:43 -!- Palyth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:13 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:18:18 -!- pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18:34 Why can you undo rc file changes past the last time you saved? That really messed me up yesturday and I lost a ton of changes becuase I assumed it would stop at the last save. 15:18:40 (online) 15:19:02 undo? 15:19:30 elliptic: Cmd-Z works for me (mac). I guess that could be some sort of complex cache scheme on my browser? 15:19:53 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:54 oh, is this the webtiles rcfile interface? 15:19:58 elliptic: Yes. 15:19:59 I know nothing about that 15:20:15 elliptic: Ok. 15:20:48 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21:11 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:51 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 15:27:55 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 15:32:00 <|amethyst> reaverb: we leave it all up to the browser 15:32:23 -!- omnirizo1 is now known as omnidiss 15:32:34 |amethyst: Hmm, Ok. I guess I just need to not keep the only copy of my rc file online. 15:32:59 |amethyst: Is there a way to just tell a browser "Hey edit this .txt file and send it back to us?" 15:33:01 <|amethyst> reaverb: yeah, easiest is probably to edit it offline and paste it in through the webtiles interface 15:33:43 <|amethyst> reaverb: that's what a text box is... 15:34:20 <|amethyst> reaverb: if you mean, save the file and edit it outside the browser, then I guess you could use a content-type the browser doesn't understand 15:34:24 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:52 <|amethyst> but re-uploading would require explicit action from the user 15:36:11 |amethyst: Sorry, those were two seperate statements. I understand that I should probably just edit my rc file offline and copy and paste it. 15:36:55 -!- MisterEarlybird has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:37:22 Ok, nevermind, I get what're saying now. 15:37:38 <|amethyst> reaverb: now that I think about it, I think I've seen firefox and maybe chrome extensions that give you an "edit with..." in the right-click menu of text boxes 15:37:59 <|amethyst> reaverb: which sounds like it might be what you were asking about 15:38:08 |amethyst: Maybe, I'll look into it. 15:38:20 Although Chrome extensions tend to eat into my performance. 15:38:46 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:19 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 15:40:48 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 15:42:29 -!- zzzng has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42:41 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 15:43:38 -!- MisterEarlybird has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:44:06 Being unwillingly polymorphed into a bat as a vampire while full gets you permanently stuck in bat form by ebarrett 15:44:07 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:44:23 heh, good bug 15:45:23 !lg * ktyp=leaving status~~bat-form 15:45:24 5. ebarrett the Vexing (L4 VpAM), safely got out of the dungeon on 2014-04-18 20:38:52, with 126 points after 8886 turns and 0:13:05. 15:45:35 excellent bug report too 15:45:41 that's... quite the report 15:45:45 I thought it deserved one yes 15:45:45 good 'death' message 15:46:01 some people just don't appreciate how fun bat form is I guess! 15:46:01 if you're alive does it say got out alive 15:46:03 I regret the bad edit with the "started tried" there 15:46:48 !learn add good_mantis[$] 8392: Being unwillingly polymorphed into a bat as a vampire while full gets you permanently stuck in bat form 15:46:49 good mantis[1/1]: 8392: Being unwillingly polymorphed into a bat as a vampire while full gets you permanently stuck in bat form 15:47:08 !learn mv good_mantis[1] goodmantis[$] 15:47:08 good_mantis[1] -> goodmantis[8/8]: 8392: Being unwillingly polymorphed into a bat as a vampire while full gets you permanently stuck in bat form 15:48:30 self-taught programmer raven 15:48:35 that's why I can't get a job 15:49:27 oh my god I should have tried to find temple and quit there 15:49:49 oh well 15:50:56 should have apocrobind 15:51:45 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:54:14 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 15:58:02 PleasingFungus: i love the sheer diversity of possible transform bugs 15:58:17 yeah, I'm now remembering dck's flight bug 15:58:41 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 15:58:49 oh, and the one due to losing mutations in beastly append 15:58:51 !lg * boring !quit 15:58:52 251055. ebarrett the Vexing (L4 VpAM), safely got out of the dungeon on 2014-04-18 20:38:52, with 126 points after 8886 turns and 0:13:05. 15:58:57 when did that message change 15:59:06 simmarine: he wasn't alive 15:59:12 oh i guess that "makes sense" 15:59:17 haha 15:59:17 wow 15:59:26 !lg * boring !quit !vp !mu 15:59:27 232122. MadWack the Skirmisher (L1 DsBe of Trog), got out of the dungeon alive on 2014-04-18 19:36:24, with 0 points after 1 turn and 0:00:12. 16:02:06 !tstats 7 16:02:12 Stats after 7 days (t): 1622 players, 494 runers, 177 winners, 325 wins, winrate 1.25%, total player time 1y+271d+10:01:45. 16:02:14 !tstats 7 t0.13 16:02:24 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:26 Stats after 7 days (t0.13): 1222 players, 323 runers, 149 winners, 270 wins, winrate 1.31%, total player time 1y+113d+3:46:37. 16:02:33 I'm getting hammers in a volcano, is that a bug? 16:02:35 nice wins 16:02:39 reaverb: yes 16:02:41 also a lot more runes 16:03:25 elliptic: It's 0.14, the squareular one with square rooms and right angle corridors. 16:03:44 * reaverb Pulls up volcano.des 16:04:30 Yes, it's volcano_buker, still explictly calls hammers. 16:05:13 Huh, if you grep for hammer around 5 differant vaults still use hammers. 16:05:28 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:06:07 afaik the only vault that is "allowed" to use hammers right now is yiuf's vault 16:06:20 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:27 -!- whiterider has quit [Quit: This user has gone to sleep.] 16:06:51 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:52 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:08:22 -!- ystael has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:08:33 elliptic: I think that was the decision, but I guess nobody bothered to gep it. 16:08:36 s/gep/grep 16:09:54 -!- mdvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:10:43 <|amethyst> the hammers in the volcano are in the possession of humans 16:10:52 <|amethyst> who are supposed to be working on the golems 16:11:06 <|amethyst> so it's as flavourful as Yiuf I'd say 16:11:07 |amethyst: Yes. 16:11:25 Although I could not deduce the falvor until you explictly told me. 16:11:57 <|amethyst> I think this one argument in favour of pure-flavour vault monster renames 16:12:01 yeah, all of the remaining uses are for flavour 16:12:22 <|amethyst> wheals: or to flag that the spell set is different 16:12:23 they are one orc vault, that volcano, grated_community, and maybe one or two others? 16:12:36 |amethyst: i meant of hammers, sorry 16:12:42 <|amethyst> ah 16:15:15 -!- namad7 has quit [] 16:15:29 Wow I have a weird webtile bug. 16:15:38 My character's tile is duplicated. 16:15:47 is mara around 16:16:02 As is the edge of the LOS. 16:16:18 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:16:57 PleasingFungus: A) No, I'm in the Lair. B) I move around and it stays in "place" (same tile, shifts to right if I move left. 16:17:17 Aw, I acidently bought up the inventory and it went away, oh well. 16:17:18 <|amethyst> reaverb: does save/reload fix it? 16:17:19 I've had that bug a couple times. Maybe I should actualyl report it next time 16:17:44 -!- GDR has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:17:46 <|amethyst> reaverb: I don't see it as an observer, assuming you're reaver on cszo 16:18:09 |amethyst: Aw, I acidently bought up the inventory and it went away, oh well. 16:18:15 <|amethyst> ah, even better 16:18:16 <|amethyst> hm 16:18:18 I think the last time I had it the circumstances were something involving me blinking 16:18:27 But I don't remember well enough... 16:19:10 |amethyst: Most webtiles bugs can be resolved by brining up the inventory, I suspect it forces a screen redraw somehow. 16:19:31 <|amethyst> yeah, it resends the tiles 16:19:34 <|amethyst> err 16:19:44 <|amethyst> not the tiles, but the numbers 16:19:55 <|amethyst> or however it works 16:19:58 -!- ToastyP_ is now known as ToastyP 16:20:08 <|amethyst> I've not actually looked into the json very much 16:20:45 <|amethyst> might be worth checking the javascript error console when that happens 16:21:28 <|amethyst> might have more information for a bug report (or other errors, irrelevant but still worth fixing) 16:22:26 |amethyst: I don't quite know how to access the error console. 16:23:26 <|amethyst> reaverb: what browser? 16:23:37 |amethyst: chrome 16:23:49 <|amethyst> reaverb: ctrl-shift-i then click on the "console" tab 16:24:17 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 16:24:25 <|amethyst> or ctrl-shift-j 16:24:37 <|amethyst> it's also under the Wrench -> Tools menus 16:24:40 <|amethyst> s/nus/nu/ 16:24:58 -!- PolkaDot has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:26:19 |amethyst: It's Cmd-Alt-j on the mac, but being on webtiles blocks it. (i.e, it works on other sites) 16:26:30 I don't know where Wrench -> Tools is. 16:27:27 Ok, figured out how to get it. However, all I get is a warning: 16:27:30 "event.returnValue is deprecated. Please use the standard event.preventDefault() instead." 16:28:15 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:11 <|amethyst> okay, not related then 16:30:36 Did the deadline to change clans pass? 16:31:32 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:33:34 <|amethyst> !date 16:33:56 <|amethyst> closes in around 21.5 hours 16:34:07 <|amethyst> 19:00 UTC on Apr 19 16:34:11 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:34:23 |amethyst: That's good. I'm trying to get somebody in my clan, and we can't see the problem. 16:34:31 And sense it takes a couple hours to update... 16:34:39 <|amethyst> it does 16:34:39 Are clan names case sensititve? 16:35:01 <|amethyst> the members put the captain's name, not the team name 16:35:15 <|amethyst> not sure if captain name is case-sensitive or not 16:35:17 <|amethyst> probably not? 16:35:21 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:35:51 |amethyst: Sorry, is the members' names case sensititve? 16:36:04 That's the only hiccup we could identify 16:36:05 doesn't seem to be 16:36:24 I have someone on my team who managed to create accounts with different capitalization on different servers 16:36:39 but the tourney scripts got games from both servers just fine 16:38:40 <|amethyst> yeah, I've played tournament games on two servers with different capitalisation of my username and it works fine 16:38:45 <|amethyst> !lg . s=name 16:38:45 8842 games for |amethyst: 8841x neil, ElvishCostello 16:38:48 <|amethyst> err 16:38:50 I just don't want to lose somebody just because of the synthax. 16:38:53 &rc reaver 16:38:55 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/reaver.rc 16:38:56 <|amethyst> I guess it's already normalised to lowercase there 16:38:59 &rc reaver 0.14 16:39:00 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.14/reaver.rc 16:39:06 &rc Klarki 0.14 16:39:08 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-0.14/Klarki.rc 16:39:15 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:39:23 !lg vlad 16:39:23 5. vlad the Poker (L5 VpBe of Trog), blasted by an orc priest (divine providence) on D:3 on 2014-01-26 21:57:35, with 350 points after 3626 turns and 0:05:32. 16:39:25 !lg vlad -2 16:39:25 4/5. Vlad the Sneak (L1 VpWz), slain by a jackal on D:1 on 2013-09-13 16:30:09, with 54 points after 257 turns and 0:09:26. 16:39:27 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:40:36 <|amethyst> reaverb: yeah, looks fine 16:40:41 <|amethyst> reaverb: give it a few hours 16:41:26 |amethyst: Actually, it's been like that for around 3 days with no change. I thought I changed it, but the .rc files seems to show I didn't. 16:41:35 <|amethyst> reaverb: hm 16:41:54 <|amethyst> reaverb: oh 16:41:58 <|amethyst> reaverb: six or fewer players 16:42:06 <|amethyst> reaverb: you have six listed, plus yourself 16:42:28 |amethyst: Oops, somebody's on there that withdrew, I'll change that. 16:42:29 Thanks. 16:43:50 Done. 16:46:14 -!- pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:47:48 -!- jcd748 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:50:50 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:50:50 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:54:23 -!- notcluie has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:00:19 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Those who tell the truth shall die, those who tell the truth shall live forever.] 17:01:30 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:02:00 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:04:09 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:04:49 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 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with TAG_MAJOR_VERSION > 34. 10(65 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f31695dd94d 19:34:42 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:35:19 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:12 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night!] 19:41:08 giant spores do not confuse MR-immune enemies by crate 19:42:29 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:23 Is there a name for that thing Crawl code does where one function handles several completely unrelated responsibilities? Besides generic "violation of single-responsibility principle". 19:44:03 I cannot think of any reasonable person who would write code like that, but it keeps recurring in Crawl code. 19:45:30 -!- gammafunk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46:17 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:47:40 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:48:06 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:05 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:51:21 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:51:25 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:26 -!- Cabadath has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:43 -!- gammafun1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:26 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 19:55:59 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 19:59:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:59:35 -!- OCTOTROG1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00:29 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 20:00:58 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:23 -!- Basil is now known as Guest50864 20:03:49 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:09:48 -!- notclule_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:09:50 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 20:12:45 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 20:13:04 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:35 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:35 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 20:13:35 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:54 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:01 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 20:23:26 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:24:05 I got a crash running the abyssal bot, I made a change but I don't think it's related. How do I recover the seed to check? 20:29:53 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-181-g8fbdb1d: Hopefully avoid a BAND_RANDOM_SINGLE crash (wheals). 10(69 seconds ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fbdb1ddcac5 20:34:44 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:54 guzonghuiren (L26 TeAE) (Depths:3) 20:36:04 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:36:53 Ok, I'm getting pretty consistant crashes on abyssal bot, I'll check on master. 20:41:47 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:46:42 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:47:03 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 20:48:07 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 20:49:13 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:49:54 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:09 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:53:54 guzonghuiren (L26 TeAE) (Depths:4) 20:53:57 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:54:53 -!- octosequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:35 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55:42 -!- Fin_ has quit [Quit: Fin_] 20:56:15 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:17 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:18 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:01:37 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:57 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:25 -!- thedefinite has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 21:10:22 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 21:10:39 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:10:48 -!- Klightning has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:11:09 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:13:19 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:15:27 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:16:48 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:17:06 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:17:54 uh 21:18:02 uh 21:18:03 ? 21:18:03 in the most unlikely game you would ever have thought of 21:18:12 -!- Moanerette has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:18:19 I seem to have spotted that just casting statue form actually takes a little bit of hp. 21:18:36 Probably a rounding error since I went from 93 to 92 hp this time without taking damage. 21:18:53 and this is an unlikely game because it actually matters to me as a DDTm^Chei 21:19:00 and how often do you see that 21:20:23 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:47 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:54 yeah i'm definitely losing 1 hp every time 21:22:23 -!- DarthXaos has quit [] 21:22:29 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:24:03 huh? do you have robust 3 and are losing that on cast or something? 21:24:15 ??Statue form 21:24:15 statue form[1/3]: Grants great AC (17 + earth/2), a 30% HP boost, and +2 Str, but makes the base cost of an action 15 instead of 10, similar to the slow spell, and reduces EV by 10. Melds gloves, boots/barding, and body armour. Provides rPois, rElec, rN+, and rRot+. 3+str/3 bonus unarmed damage, and 50% damage bonus to all melee. {Stoneskin} also gives more AC. 21:24:24 -!- asema has quit [Changing host] 21:24:41 I do have robust:1 but that shouldn't do anything about it. 21:25:37 You online or off? 21:26:09 -!- Pisano has quit [] 21:26:35 Can someone tell me the standard size for a tile? ...or I guess where I can find tiles in the uncompiled source. 21:27:22 32x32 21:27:33 http://crawl.lantea.net:8080/#watch-Bloax 21:27:35 and i'm right here 21:28:02 the end is near for me 21:28:31 which is why people don't like DD 21:31:08 Did some DD effect prevent the +30% boost? 21:31:29 Cabadath: crawl-ref/source/rltiles isn't it? 21:32:24 what does the rl in rltiles stand for? roguelike? 21:32:29 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 21:32:29 Yes. 21:32:31 Cabadath: look at my hp 21:32:33 it's 110 now 21:32:46 now i'm in statue form with 143 hp 21:32:57 now let's leave statue form 21:33:05 back to 110 21:33:08 interesting 21:33:10 You didn't lose anything. 21:33:21 It must have been a rounding error. 21:33:24 definitely 21:33:43 because 94+30%-30% is kinda tricky 21:33:44 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:33:47 wonder if DD berserking would occasionally show a similar issue? 21:33:51 How do you have so low of MP? use recharging a shitton? 21:35:30 Cabadath: I'm a DD of something that isn't Trog or Makhleb. 21:35:47 i'm suffering death at a glacial pace 21:35:52 one mp point at a time 21:36:01 Will someone say something about one of these? Silence drives me nuts. https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11892 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11879 21:36:03 sure i'm doing vaults, but what about later 21:36:06 what if i run out of mp 21:36:16 the game is over 21:36:38 Bloaxor you should have used a vamp weapon or something to heal other than just recharging. 21:36:38 FIND MOAR HEAL WAND 21:36:52 that implies finding a vamp weapon 21:37:06 which also implies gaining more hp than i lose 21:37:15 Vamp weapons aren't that rare. 21:37:22 good ones are 21:37:40 also nothing comes close to matching my two weapons 21:38:16 I found a +1+6 vamp lajatang in my current GrBe game. but I already picked axes and already had a sweet randart exec axe 21:38:25 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38:45 maybe you guys should try DDTm^Chei 21:39:00 in one of my current games I have the autumn katana and the sword of jihad...and the staff of wucad mu...mostly a caster so the wucad mu is the most important. 21:39:15 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:16 if you do then i'll send prayers your way that you won't get awful loot and too little experience like me 21:39:39 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:40:31 DDTm^Chei seems like a REALLY WEIRD combo. 21:40:46 it is difficult 21:41:00 but if the game doesn't want me to win ordinary characters why should i play by its rules 21:42:58 -!- Patashu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:58 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:43:04 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 21:44:01 TrTm^Chei is interesting. Your godly strength means your dragon form gets a maximum of 120 dam/hit (hit no STR or Slaying bonuses; and 27 Fighting and UC)...[0 skill and human strength is 28 dam/hit] 21:44:22 side note: It's a pain to get Dragon Form castable as a troll. 21:46:19 more like why would you take dragon form over statue form as a troll 21:46:40 True; true. 21:46:52 Well, Dragon Form has a LOT higher dam. 21:47:07 it matters at normal stats 21:47:28 when you're a troll (likely pumping str since you're going chei) of chei it gets ridiculous 21:47:42 and so it doesn't matter whether or not you oneshot with more or less exclamation marks 21:48:19 Dragon Troll would punch out...say Antaeus or TLH faster...but for most non-boss or postgame enemies...you'd oneshot either way. 21:49:03 i wouldn't take dragon form over statue form against the lernaean hydra 21:49:19 !lg * swamp:5 max=tdam x=tdam -tv 21:49:20 2159. timbw, XL18 OgFi, T:57007 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:49:24 ^ another reason not to dragon form in Swamp 21:49:44 (yes, I just wanted an excuse to pull up this TV) 21:49:56 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 21:50:26 let me guess 21:50:37 someone got into trouble with a hydra simulacrum whilst rC- 21:50:45 !lg * swamp:5 max=tdam x=tdam 21:50:48 2159. [tdam=326] timbw the Alchemist (L18 OgFi of Okawaru), annihilated by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum on Swamp:5 (swamp_icy) on 2013-08-19 06:42:05, with 190889 points after 57007 turns and 3:58:48. 21:51:09 !lg * swamp:5 max=tdam x=tdam -tv 21:51:09 2159. timbw, XL18 OgFi, T:57007 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 21:51:11 I have punched out TLH with Statue Troll...and Statue Gargoyle. I've never actually had Dragon form cast though... 21:52:14 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:53:25 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:54:09 Easiest time I've had with The Lernaean Hydra though was...with one of my current characters...got fire storm up early...killed it offscreen never saw it. (huge vault full of enemies Swamp ending; Fire Storm was a Vehu Gift). 21:54:19 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:15 I punched TLH to death with a SpTm^Chei in statue form. 21:55:30 I think my defenses were something like 32/48 or something ridiculous like that. 21:55:33 ??statue form[2 21:55:34 statue form[2/3]: Gives plate armour GDR, halves damage from torment and gives rotting resistance. 21:55:36 ??statue form[3 21:55:37 statue form[3/3]: The nine-headed hydra bites you but does no damage. x16 The nine-headed hydra misses you. The nine headed hydra bites you but does no damage. 21:56:21 Grunt: Did you see my vague messages earlier? Apparenty Sequell went down and I didn't notice. 21:56:30 reaverb: which vague messages? 21:56:39 Grunt: The ones about the Abyssal bot. 21:56:41 %git 21:56:41 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-181-g8fbdb1d: Hopefully avoid a BAND_RANDOM_SINGLE crash (wheals). 10(88 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fbdb1ddcac5 21:56:51 I do lair branches as soon as I reach them; makes them more interesting...both Tm were of Sif, btw...also used ignite poison to have the hydrae covered in steam and have to walk through a cloud of cflame to reach me. 21:57:12 Basically what I wanted to say was that that commit did prevent some crashes I ran into earlier today. 21:57:38 Hm. 21:57:42 I guess me !tell 'ing you is probably in your message log. 21:58:03 Abyssal Bot? does autotravel in the abyss? 21:58:12 -!- thedefinite has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC with a difference] 21:58:17 Cabadath: yes it's used to test code. 21:58:39 catches a lot of weird crashes that rarely happen in normal play, designed so they are always reproducable. 21:59:52 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:59:59 -!- omnidiss has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:00:33 * Cabadath hurls a ghostly fireball at reaverb. 22:00:51 !banish Cabadath 22:01:00 !abyss reaverb 22:01:01 Grunt casts a spell. reaverb is devoured by a tear in reality! 22:01:24 !cmd !banish !abyss 22:01:25 Defined command: !banish => !abyss 22:01:32 !banish reaverb 22:01:33 Grunt casts a spell. reaverb is devoured by a tear in reality! 22:02:38 Would ghostly flames for players as a FixedArt or god ability be unreasonable? I'm sure as a Necro spell they would (largely because undead races and Lichform characters could use it to heal themselves). 22:03:14 it would be neat as a yred follower 22:03:42 Crash by Taxman66 22:04:18 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 22:06:28 [rN-resisted damage for the living; healing for undead (3d15 for monsters; 2d9 for players) and summon 2-3 Spectral things is the enemy effect. (Reavers only right now.)] 22:06:51 -!- Satonakaja has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:07:36 !lg * swamp:5 max=tdam x=tdam -tv 22:07:37 2159. timbw, XL18 OgFi, T:57007 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 22:07:58 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 22:08:19 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 22:08:41 wow 22:08:46 ??dragon form[$ 22:08:46 dragon form[4/4]: !tv timbw ogfi 7 22:08:54 ??dragon form 22:08:54 dragon form[1/4]: You're a dragon now! RAAAAWR! Breathe fire! Be tough (+50% hp) and strong! Gives +10 str, flight, rPois+ rFire++ rCold-, 34% GDR, +16 AC, huge size (will nuke your EV). Base unarmed damage = (20 + str*(2/3) + unarmed_skill). 22:08:58 !lg * recent max=tdam x=dtam 22:08:59 Unknown field: dtam 22:09:02 !lg * recent max=tdam x=tdam 22:09:03 930995. [tdam=326] timbw the Alchemist (L18 OgFi of Okawaru), annihilated by an eight-headed hydra simulacrum on Swamp:5 (swamp_icy) on 2013-08-19 06:42:05, with 190889 points after 57007 turns and 3:58:48. 22:09:07 !lg * recent max=tdam x=tdam -2 22:09:08 930994/930995. [tdam=219] jeanjacques the Bringer of Life (L23 HOWn of Elyvilon), blown up by Boris on Crypt:2 on 2013-05-12 23:46:05, with 389359 points after 42846 turns and 3:45:43. 22:09:17 !lg * recent max=dam x=dam 22:09:19 930995. [dam=198] Garhauk the Warrior (L22 NaBe of Trog), blasted by BirdoPrey's ghost (great icy blast) on Vaults:4 on 2014-03-06 20:40:54, with 357544 points after 61106 turns and 6:35:42. 22:09:23 !lg * recent max=dam x=dam -tv 22:09:24 930995. Garhauk, XL22 NaBe, T:61106 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 22:10:17 -!- SkiChan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:11:10 !tell birdoprety !tv garhauk nabe 4 22:11:10 minmay: OK, I'll let birdoprety know. 22:11:12 er 22:11:15 !tell birdoprey !tv garhauk nabe 4 22:11:15 minmay: OK, I'll let birdoprey know. 22:11:15 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:11:24 -!- minmay is now known as birdoprety 22:11:25 !messages 22:11:26 (1/1) minmay said (16s ago): !tv garhauk nabe 4 22:11:30 -!- birdoprety is now known as minmay 22:17:34 -!- Cabadath is now known as birdofpretty 22:17:36 hehe 22:17:56 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:18:15 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:18:52 -!- birdofpretty is now known as aPigNamedNapoleo 22:19:02 -!- aPigNamedNapoleo is now known as PigNamedNapoleon 22:23:56 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:26:09 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 22:29:26 reaverb: well, we have make_string in libutil.h ... 22:30:13 how many here have played a DD of a non-DD-standard god 22:31:53 SamB: That looks good, Thank you. 22:31:59 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:57 cool 22:33:39 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:33:46 reaverb: BTW you can find most, if not all, of our printf-like functions by "grep PRINTF *.h" 22:34:01 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:34:07 SamB: Nice. 22:34:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:34:53 it's a thing we use to get warnings about messed-up format strings from GCC or cl.exe 22:35:36 -!- octosequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:23 -!- gammafun1 has left ##crawl-dev 22:37:31 SamB: Ok, it's working nicely. Thank you! 22:40:35 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:40:36 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:27 *snort* 22:42:44 bees (L20 GhMo) (Abyss:3) 22:43:04 What's with Sizzell? 22:43:12 it's a crash 22:43:15 !crashlog bees 22:43:16 4. bees, XL20 GhMo, T:46572 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bees/crash-bees-20140419-034241.txt 22:43:20 gammafunk: Ah. 22:43:20 -!- Guest50864 is now known as Basil 22:43:24 will show up in a sec 22:43:41 that kind of crash is usually a segfault 22:44:22 mm 22:44:24 %git 22:44:24 07Grunt02 * 0.15-a0-181-g8fbdb1d: Hopefully avoid a BAND_RANDOM_SINGLE crash (wheals). 10(2 hours ago, 1 file, 4+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8fbdb1ddcac5 22:44:34 !crashlog bees 22:44:34 4. bees, XL20 GhMo, T:46572 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bees/crash-bees-20140419-034241.txt 22:44:35 ...so yeah, probably already fixed. 22:44:39 oh duh 22:44:44 it had shown up already 22:44:54 was it a band of bees 22:45:10 BEES 22:45:21 No, it was a rakshasa trying to place a companion monster. 22:45:22 heh 22:45:31 Probably the only reason we didn't notice that was toruney. 22:46:01 band_monsters = {MONS_RAKSHASA, 32767, MONS_CYCLOPS, MONS_PROGRAM_BUG, MONS_ETTIN, MONS_WYVERN, MONS_ELEPHANT_SLUG, MONS_PROGRAM_BUG, MONS_GREEN_RAT, MONS_PROGRAM_BUG, 4161090944, 32767, 11764400, MONS_PROGRAM_BUG, MONS_ELEPHANT, MONS_SEA_SNAKE, 59450656, MONS_PROGRAM_BUG, 4161091256, 32767} 22:46:06 good band 22:46:13 -!- octosequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:39 !lg . 22:46:40 1309. gammafunk the Convoker (L14 HEIE of Sif Muna), annihilated by an ettin (a +3,+2 dire flail) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2014-04-19 03:03:35, with 68069 points after 16516 turns and 3:18:56. 22:46:53 sounds like what that convoker convoked on top of my a few minutes ago in v:5 22:47:11 next time remember to use curare gammafunk! 22:47:22 well next time I have a better plan for that entire situation, but still 22:47:26 So, anything on rounding errors in +hp forms? 22:50:43 Fungus (L22 MuWz) (Depths:3) 22:50:51 !crashlog fungus 22:50:52 No milestones for fungus (crash). 22:50:55 * Grunt thumbtwiddles. 22:51:32 !crashlog fungus 22:51:33 1. Fungus, XL22 MuWz, T:141870 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/Fungus/crash-Fungus-20140419-035042.txt 22:51:55 hm 22:52:04 johnstein: install GDB on cbro so I can get better stack traces? 22:52:07 s/I/we/ 22:53:35 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 22:54:18 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:54 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:03:59 * PigNamedNapoleon hits grunt with a pitchfork 23:04:01 -!- octosequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:34 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 23:05:54 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:24 Fungus (L23 MuWz) (Depths:4) 23:13:13 crashakas 23:16:22 more like!!!! 23:16:33 crashakas, haha 23:16:48 crashocutioners 23:17:34 crashicutioners I guess 23:19:26 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:20:18 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:20:36 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:02 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:34 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:21:39 -!- quinoa_rex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:23:59 grunt I thought I had that installed 23:24:04 I will check it later 23:24:25 grunt; oh. I bet I need it installed in the chroot 23:24:28 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:25:53 johnstein: that sounds plausible. 23:27:15 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:48 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 23:28:30 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 23:30:08 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 23:31:43 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:07 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:38:56 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:45:18 -!- Spatzist has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:50:28 Sabaki (L22 VpFi) (Abyss:1) 23:50:29 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 23:50:47 oh dear 23:50:53 -!- Sabaki_|2 is now known as Sabaki 23:51:04 well, not sure what caused that one, was just walking in the abyss 23:51:36 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-182-g907752e: Fix a typo in a WEIGHT: line. 10(58 seconds ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=907752e15a62 23:51:46 https://dobrazupa.org/saves/Sabaki-crawl-git-4f51c470f0-140419-0451.tar.bz2 23:52:53 dosent seem to reproduce 23:54:38 Sabaki (L23 VpFi) (Abyss:1) 23:54:49 ok, it reproduces but it takes quite a while longer 23:54:58 i had wandered pretty far 23:55:04 from the area where it crashed the first time 23:55:17 !crashlog sabaki 23:55:17 21. Sabaki, XL23 VpFi, T:54205 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Sabaki/crash-Sabaki-20140419-045436.txt 23:55:27 ...yeah, more crashakas 23:55:32 (bug already fixed; wait for rebuild) 23:55:35 crashaka sounds like a cool instrument 23:55:43 cool thanks 23:55:58 crashaka sounds like a spiritual advisor 23:56:23 it is I, crashaka, king of the rashzulu. 23:57:24 <|amethyst> Let me rak you, shasa khan