00:01:06 !msg Grunt Remember that horrible hell ending I made? I realized how to fix it: turn it into a not-hell ending and make it an encompass vault in Depths instead! 00:01:09 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.0-15-g6b16f67 00:01:11 !tell 00:01:11 I don't grok. Syntax is !tell PERSON MESSAGE. 00:01:14 !tellGrunt Remember that horrible hell ending I made? I realized how to fix it: turn it into a not-hell ending and make it an encompass vault in Depths instead! 00:01:17 derp 00:01:19 !tell Grunt Remember that horrible hell ending I made? I realized how to fix it: turn it into a not-hell ending and make it an encompass vault in Depths instead! 00:01:20 Lightli: OK, I'll let grunt know. 00:01:23 or possibly /msg but probably not 00:03:12 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 00:03:21 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 00:03:23 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:26 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:06:58 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:08:36 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:09:11 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-168-g0f93c88 (34) 00:12:14 -!- Xenobreeder__ is now known as Xenobreeder 00:12:29 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 00:14:29 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 00:14:56 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:59 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:01 -!- rast- is now known as rast 00:15:57 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:41 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:18:52 -!- MiraclePrism has 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03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 12cold | XP: 283 | Sz: Large | Int: plant. 02:09:34 %??fire vortex 02:09:40 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 02:10:11 Those should be given acid resistance, if for no reason other than "The slime wall burns your fire vortex. x3" when casting it in the slime pits sounds so...stupid. 02:11:15 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:45 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:14:51 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:10 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 02:16:38 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.0-15-g6b16f67 02:17:21 -!- turde has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:17:29 -!- ldlework has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:20:52 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:23:25 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-168-g0f93c88 (34) 02:26:42 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27:06 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the 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The idea is to force an end to the encounter, either via the guaranteed swings from the monster while sped up or the guaranteed falling behind afterward. 07:24:58 and to do it in a straight-forward, predictable, and visible way 07:25:40 wait, he's actually not here 07:25:56 !tell dpeg Quazifuji posted a pretty good representation of my goals in the burst-of-speed proposal. The idea is to force an end to the encounter, either via the guaranteed swings from the monster while sped up or the guaranteed falling behind afterward, and to do it in a straight-forward, predictable, and visible way. 07:25:57 Maximum message length is 300 characters. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 07:26:14 !tell dpeg Quazifuji posted a pretty good representation of my goals in the burst-of-speed proposal. The idea is to force an end to the encounter, either via the guaranteed swings from the monster while sped up or the guaranteed falling behind afterward 07:26:14 Lasty2: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 07:26:55 -!- Lasty2 is now known as Lasty 07:34:59 -!- nerdlord has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:38:01 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 07:43:13 -!- GDR has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:44:31 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:48:51 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54:58 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:58:12 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:03:06 -!- nerdlord_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:08:52 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:09:03 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:12:31 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:13:59 -!- Furril has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:15:31 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15:47 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 08:15:52 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:09 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:19:51 -!- nerdlord__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:31:58 -!- pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:34:48 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:35:55 -!- Eonwe9 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:41:46 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:42:48 Faydane (L27 HEBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Zig:11) 08:42:48 sirlaser (L12 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D (Sprint)) 08:42:48 WeiSong (L3 FoFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:42:48 Strat (L14 DrTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:12) 08:42:48 mishugashu (L3 VpEn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:2) 08:42:48 iafm (L13 NaWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:6) 08:42:48 Goodini51 (L4 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 08:42:48 EvilGenius (L5 KoWn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:3) 08:42:48 foophykins (L7 MuWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4) 08:42:50 Covenant (L19 NaWn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Elf:3) 08:44:22 -!- Eonwe9 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:45:08 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:11 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 08:53:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:23 -!- Zooty has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:00:10 -!- nosrepemos has quit [] 09:03:14 -!- omnirizon has quit [Client Quit] 09:11:20 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:29 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 09:18:36 -!- nerdlord_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:20:03 -!- xezzy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:23:25 -!- ystael has quit [Client Quit] 09:25:48 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:47 -!- asema has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:33:16 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:33:23 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:37 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35:40 -!- nerdlord__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:37:41 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:37:55 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:43:03 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:51:11 -!- __K_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:54:27 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:11 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:58 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:03:09 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04:20 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:04:58 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:04:59 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:52 -!- SamB__ is now known as SamB 10:06:20 -!- MDvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:13:31 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:13:40 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:15:46 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:16:06 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:13 !tell ontoclasm I think you and me are both tired of leather armor looking like garbage so let's fix that: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor_fancy.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor_art.png 10:16:13 Maximum message length is 300 characters. Eschew verbosity, Gladys! 10:16:20 go away sequell 10:16:37 !tell ontoclasm I think you and me are both tired of leather armor looking like garbage so let's fix that: 10:16:37 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 10:16:43 !tell ontoclasm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor.png 10:16:43 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 10:16:53 !tell ontoclasm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor_fancy.png 10:16:53 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 10:16:53 !tell ontoclasm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor_art.png 10:16:53 Bloax: OK, I'll let ontoclasm know. 10:16:57 have some verbosity 10:16:58 couldn't you just shorten the urls with yx.fi or something 10:17:06 absolutely not 10:18:07 joecarrot (L2 TrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 10:18:07 Tramtrist (L21 CeHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily 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<|amethyst> FR: all monsters have stats for "albedo", "density", and "shear modulus" 15:24:41 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:51 <|amethyst> Dungeon Fortress: Dwarf Soup 15:25:03 mm, dwarf soup 15:25:28 that's one way of having Fun 15:25:31 -!- _K has quit [] 15:26:44 when's doom crawl stone soup 15:28:34 after dcss implements cornershooting 15:29:04 fr: keycards 15:29:30 Kvaak: cornershooting is boring 15:29:40 it's also necessary 15:29:44 needs more simultaneous actions 15:30:10 <|amethyst> %git e473d02 15:30:10 07kilobyte02 * 0.13-a0-1627-ge473d02: Add Bloax' sweet cacodemon tile to UNUSED/. 10(10 months ago, 1 file, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e473d029e917 15:30:17 unless doom is "shoot like a sitting duck or run around like a madman" 15:30:18 <|amethyst> (see commit message for a status report) 15:31:13 but that's a year ago 15:31:33 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:31:37 weren't there some doom vaults added since 15:31:46 The cyberdemon is already there in the form of a hell sentinel. 15:31:53 <|amethyst> and people have proposed pain elementals 15:32:00 <|amethyst> "demon" is "hell beast" clearly 15:33:54 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:35:14 -!- MgDark is now known as MgDark_MiBe 15:36:02 ontoclasm: where are you 15:37:49 i'm here 15:37:49 ontoclasm: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:38:00 whoa 15:38:04 !messages 15:38:04 (1/5) Bloax said (5h 21m 27s ago): I think you and me are both tired of leather armor looking like garbage so let's fix that: 15:38:12 !messages 15:38:13 !messages 15:38:13 (1/4) Bloax said (5h 21m 30s ago): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor.png 15:38:14 (1/3) Bloax said (5h 21m 26s ago): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor_fancy.png 15:38:14 !messages 15:38:15 (1/2) Bloax said (5h 21m 24s ago): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leatherarmor_art.png 15:38:16 !messages 15:38:16 (1/1) Bloax said (5h 12m 44s ago): (you might have to make special versions for nagas/centaurs but that shouldn't be too hard) 15:38:54 lookin' sharp aren't they 15:39:39 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:51 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:45:30 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:46:10 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/dragonmask.png 15:46:14 also don't mind me i'm just on a roll 15:47:13 might wanna tinker with the horns 15:48:55 that mask looks too big to me 15:49:09 -!- _maniac_ has quit [Quit: I need some life.] 15:49:12 well it's MASK OF THE DRAGON 15:49:22 a bit of intimidation is in order 15:49:30 mask of the dragon. slot: body 15:49:41 yeah, it's bigger than the leather armour 15:50:03 player heads are only like 4x6 15:50:42 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/dragonmasked.png 15:52:30 looks fine to me 15:53:04 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 15:54:30 !messages 15:54:30 No messages for TZer0. 15:55:59 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:57:14 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 15:58:46 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:48 -!- yogidabear has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:01:00 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:31 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:10:08 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:12:29 -!- thedefinite has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- \o/] 16:15:01 what's the command now 16:15:03 !tournament 16:15:08 !time 16:15:08 Time: Apr 17, 2014, 09:15:08 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament ends in 9 days, 22 hours, 44 minutes and 51 seconds. 16:16:25 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:16:47 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 16:21:55 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:22:19 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 16:22:24 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:10 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 16:25:38 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:26:33 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:33 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 16:26:33 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:34:09 wheals: hm 16:34:09 PleasingFungus: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 16:34:10 probably, yes 16:34:58 -!- Ciph has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:35:10 to be fair, they can't swim in their current form. 16:35:31 (on the other hand, they shouldn't have been able to spiderify in the first place) 16:35:53 I'll see if I can duplicate it once I get home - feel free to remind me. 16:35:56 Is it in mantis? 16:36:34 no 16:36:42 well, not afaik 16:36:47 -!- Adamo_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:36:51 maybe it should be 16:37:00 idk. 16:38:44 -!- whiterider has quit [Quit: This user has gone to sleep.] 16:42:42 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:50:01 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:52:18 -!- Isasaur has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53:16 -!- LordSloth has quit [Quit: Gotta Commute] 16:53:37 -!- giorgian has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:56 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 17:03:13 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:04:18 -!- Fin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:04:46 -!- scummos| has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08:46 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:10:40 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 17:12:18 -!- Spatzist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:27 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:19 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 17:14:31 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:59 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:15:22 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:15:23 -!- SkiChan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:15:46 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:18:03 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:19:39 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 17:19:58 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 17:21:46 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:22:15 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-171-ge5ebe08 (34) 17:24:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24:46 -!- GDR has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:24:47 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:20 -!- scummos__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:29:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:31:35 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 17:33:06 -!- wh1te has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:14 -!- wh1te has left ##crawl-dev 17:39:25 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:57 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:18 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:43:43 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:57 -!- sinusoidal_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:52:55 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:53:32 -!- giorgian has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:56:23 -!- bencryption has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:02:58 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 18:08:34 * Grunt appears! 18:09:17 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:44 Send 'em back where they came from! 18:11:19 * Grunt is shielded from puny magic! 18:13:09 -!- bencryption_ is now known as bencryption 18:13:47 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 18:16:24 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has joined ##crawl-dev 18:16:24 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:16:31 -!- Eonwe10 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:39 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:17:01 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:14 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:17:16 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:17:38 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:57 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:25:48 -!- HDA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28:54 -!- Xenobreeder_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:32:43 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:56 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:34:24 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:35:41 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:48 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 18:39:53 -!- debo has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:40:50 -!- Zeia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:43:55 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:45:30 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 18:47:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:28 -!- rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:50:17 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 18:50:17 Bug #5310 is still open despite my patch to fix it, by the way. 18:51:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:51:27 So it would be nice if somebody pushed that, since it should probably go in 0.14 as a bugfix. 19:01:12 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:50 -!- CKyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:28 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:42 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:25 -!- Fin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:05:08 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:06:47 !tell galehar have you seen https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=11868 ? i can't find the transifex page either 19:06:47 MarvinPA: OK, I'll let galehar know. 19:07:16 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:09:12 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140325030201]] 19:09:37 -!- lobf has quit [Client Quit] 19:10:23 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:43 bh (L22 OgDK) ASSERT(in_bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1570 failed. (mon->target = (0,20)) (Vaults:4) 19:14:05 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:09 ??crash 19:14:09 crash[1/1]: If you crash and the state does not seem recoverable, go to Advanced Options in dgl and then Backup Save File and let the developers know you've done so when you file a report in mantis: crawl.develz.org/mantis 19:14:16 !lm . 19:14:17 4129. [2014-04-18 00:13:36] bh the Shatterer (L22 OgDK of Yredelemnul) ASSERT(in bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1570 failed. (mon->target = (0,20)) (Vaults:4) 19:14:19 ally bug? 19:14:46 derp. time to clear vaults:4 again 19:14:52 ouch 19:14:52 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 19:15:04 yeah. I was telling my mobs to retreat away from me and accidentally told them to run to the map border 19:15:10 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:11 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:16 bh (L22 OgDK) ASSERT(in_bounds(mon->target) || (mon->target).origin()) in 'mon-behv.cc' at line 1570 failed. (mon->target = (79,41)) (Vaults:4) 19:15:23 yep. I can reproduce it on command 19:15:36 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:16:13 I bet the minimal test is: 1. have an ally, 2. tell it to retreat to the map edge 19:17:41 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 19:17:45 wow good bug 19:17:56 could cursed "HAHA I SO GOT YOU FOR THE 5000th TIME!!!" negatively enchanted items just not exist past d:8 19:17:57 no one knew just how OP summoners are 19:18:01 so... can I cheat my way to victory now? 19:18:12 bh: sure 19:18:12 possibly :p 19:18:15 oh, I'll see if I can make it happen with butterflies 19:18:21 just don't tell anyon- 19:18:54 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 19:19:44 hrm. couldn't replicate it on trunk with butterflies 19:19:56 !lm . -log 19:19:57 bh, XL1 HuSu, T:0 (milestone) has no matching game. 19:20:14 !lm . -log 19:20:15 bh, XL1 HuSu, T:0 (milestone) has no matching game. 19:20:16 !lm . -log -1 19:20:17 bh, XL1 HuSu, T:0 (milestone) has no matching game. 19:20:18 !lm . -log -2 19:20:18 4130. bh, XL22 OgDK, T:49875 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bh/crash-bh-20140418-001513.txt 19:20:23 !lm . -log -2 --crash 19:20:24 No keyword '--crash' 19:20:27 !lm . -log -2 -crash 19:20:27 Unknown option: crash 19:20:54 !lm bh crash -2 -log 19:20:55 12. bh, XL22 OgDK, T:50962 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/bh/crash-bh-20140418-001336.txt 19:22:20 sputterflies don't actually do what you tell them to do they 19:22:23 probably butterflies don't try and follow your retreat command 19:22:23 yeah 19:22:33 mammals probably works! 19:22:40 it does 19:22:41 mammal, that is 19:26:10 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:40 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:19 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:28:55 right. home. time to look at merfolk. 19:30:28 -!- ckyle has quit [Client Quit] 19:30:29 -!- sleeves has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:30:31 that sounds bad out of context 19:31:22 ...admittedly 19:31:31 the problem with merfolk is that they're turning into spiders 19:31:33 when they shouldn't be 19:31:58 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:37:42 MarvinPA: yeah, I realized that in the shower 19:39:31 wheals: I found the bug 19:39:43 transform.cc, line 612 19:40:24 ...that whole function is really dubious; I think line 603 is also wrong but I'm not sure 19:40:54 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:40:56 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:54 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46:43 -!- johlstei has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:31 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:26 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:55:10 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:56:08 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night] 19:58:14 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:03:54 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 20:07:46 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:58 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:09:45 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 20:10:25 Ordering ally retreat to map border crashes by brendan 20:12:29 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 20:12:47 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:55 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:18:32 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:57 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:19:10 -!- rast- is now known as rast 20:19:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:20:33 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:42 -!- fungee has quit [] 20:23:08 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:25:43 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29:24 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:32:09 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 20:32:53 -!- petitchou has quit [] 20:36:00 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:37:21 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:38:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:38:54 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 20:41:30 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:46:15 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:44 -!- Reign_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:49:52 -!- Ciph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:53:48 -!- mk83 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:53:51 -!- rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 20:53:54 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:55:02 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:45 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:45 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 20:55:45 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:54 $ git diff --shortstat master 20:57:55 23 files changed, 3158 insertions(+), 3445 deletions(-) 20:58:00 mm I think ranged_combat is still coming out ahead 20:58:06 (good) 21:01:06 -!- Blazinghand|Work has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:10 -!- evilmike has quit [] 21:01:39 Grunt: Nice! 21:04:46 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:05:12 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:06:19 Oh, I broke throwing nets. 21:06:24 * Grunt fixes them. 21:08:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:09:22 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:10:05 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 21:10:24 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:57 -!- jday_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:14:32 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:16:56 i got a disconnected vault 21:17:15 wheals: Doesn't that happen all the time? 21:17:26 so? 21:17:34 Or is it more serious than "random vault floating in the middle of space" 21:17:47 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17:53 why is that not serious 21:19:03 wheals: Diconnected vaults have been occuring regularly for years, and haven't been fixed, so I assumed it was a low priority issue. 21:21:11 reading un-id'd enchant armour gives "crumbles to dust" message twice by crate 21:21:18 -!- lavos3 is now known as lavos 21:21:31 $ git diff --shortstat master 21:21:37 25 files changed, 3184 insertions(+), 3459 deletions(-) 21:21:51 reaverb: it's a vault-by-vault issue, not some fundamental problem. 21:21:54 why does the abyss even prevent scroll blinking 21:21:56 wheals: show me? 21:22:02 Grunt: Hmm, didn't realize that. 21:22:11 there was a beetle in the vault 21:22:12 they're already the most valueable resource you have 21:22:23 wheals: there are beetles in a lot of vaults! 21:22:28 !vault dat/des/altar/overflow.des 21:22:29 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des;hb=HEAD 21:22:47 oh 21:22:48 that one chei vault 21:22:57 looks like beetle_altar_2 21:23:11 ...yeah, it doesn't have exits. 21:23:22 is there too much exp? 21:23:30 Is there too much Lightli? 21:23:39 no 21:24:04 !log . 21:24:05 2552. darkli, XL26 DEVM, T:89774: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/darkli/morgue-darkli-20140418-021933.txt 21:24:15 Note the defenses and the spells 21:24:37 This was a 3-rune game. 21:26:19 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-172-gbc957d9: Add exits to an altar minivault (wheals). 10(2 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bc957d9aef0f 21:26:27 http://sprunge.us/UBgb 21:27:18 oh my god 21:27:21 a ranged combat overhaul 21:28:34 wow ow wo w 21:28:46 * Grunt throws a javelin. The javelin closely misses Bloax. 21:29:00 you mean ranged enemies won't be aimbotting scum that ignore all defenses now??! 21:29:08 ... 21:29:26 wheals: ? 21:29:36 bloax just said a very weird thing 21:30:04 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:30:31 is it because statistically ranged enemies aren't so bad 21:30:47 is what 21:31:45 -!- agenius has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:32:29 is what means what 21:32:59 or am i suddenly saying even more weird things that you won't explain 21:33:26 i've just never heard anyone complain about ranged enemies before 21:33:34 that's strange 21:33:37 Huh? 21:33:50 Because merfolk javelineers can smash any character. 21:33:57 so can aliches 21:34:01 well complaints about enemy ranged are reasonably common in ##crawl 21:34:05 Monster ranged combat is disproportionately effective right now. 21:34:06 possibly not in -dev though! 21:34:08 do aliches spawn in shoals 21:34:56 ("right now" being in trunk) 21:35:05 if my memory serves right they were still quite problematic on a cpa cheigoyle 21:35:06 disproportionately to what? 21:35:19 To, say, melee. 21:35:48 Which is kind of bad once you consider that melee implies the monster not only being in sight but also adjacent to you. 21:35:52 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:36:31 is the ranged rewrite balance not based on the current behaviour? 21:36:36 i'm not exactly sure that comparing them makes sense really 21:37:02 i can't think of any monsters that are serious ranged and melee threats (stone giants maybe?) 21:37:16 Define "current behaviour". 21:38:00 the way ranged combat currently works? damage, accuracy, scaling, etc 21:38:45 like, the melee rewrite tried to keep the previous balance intact (and obviously failed at that in a bunch of ways and had lots of issues still!) 21:39:07 I haven't really made any balancing effort as yet with this. 21:39:13 wheals: Rangers (the monsters who fire even in melee) are very lethal enemies. 21:39:20 -!- Patashu[Zzz] is now known as Patashu_ 21:39:24 -!- Patashu_ is now known as Patashu 21:39:25 Coincidentally this includes javelineers, along wiht master archers. 21:39:33 Hopefully we can get master archers as dangerous as they were way back when, at least for a while 21:39:35 right, the point is that they're meant to be 21:39:51 -!- nonethousand has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:39:54 well it does feel like ranged pretty much ignores ac and ev both 21:40:01 how much that is actually true i'm not sure 21:40:01 my point is that significantly changing balance as part of the rewrite seems like a bad idea anyway 21:40:30 i've never felt like that, i guess most of my ev chars have at least rmsl though 21:40:32 crate: seems pretty true in my experience too 21:40:33 certainly changing it after the rewrite might be good (and presumably it would be easier to do, too) 21:40:36 so i mean yeah the ranged enemies are dangerous (and are supposed to be) but the way in which they are dangerous is weird 21:40:40 (source: i play a lot of heavy armor chei characters) 21:41:01 (which means big AC/EV) 21:41:09 crate: maybe it's just that ranged ignores gdr 21:41:16 well that would explain the ac bit 21:41:17 but not the ev 21:41:21 yeah 21:41:27 I'm not aiming to significantly change balance; I *am* aiming to have things behave sensibly and consistently. 21:41:45 crate: what's even weirder is that r/dmsl completely destroys ranged enemies 21:41:52 but raw ev doesn't 21:44:53 -!- qoala has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:03 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:30 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:47:19 wait, deep elf master archers used to be even more dangerous? 21:47:36 somehow 21:49:22 wait 21:52:05 does this mean distortion ranged weapons can be a thi- 21:52:12 wait what am I saying 21:52:28 the centaur warrior shits a rain of arrows of distortion at you 21:52:47 you are unsurprisingly enough now enjoying a trip in the abyss 21:53:22 exactly 21:54:11 (maybe it would be better if it was only possible via Lugonu's ****** branding) 21:54:42 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:57:08 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 21:57:14 -!- sleeves has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:57:20 iirc a dev was talking about testing ranged distortion weapons 21:57:23 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 21:57:24 and found them to be hilariously OP 21:57:29 -!- jcd748 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57:41 -!- fufumann has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:49 -!- _miek has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:57:53 ??distortion 21:57:53 distortion[1/3]: A powerful and dangerous weapon brand. When it hits, inflicts a random option from "1-7 bonus damage", "3-26 bonus damage", "blink", "teleport", or {banish}. When you unwield, you suffer wild translocation effects - up to 43 raw damage, banishment, teleport+confusion, or lots of glow. The probability of banishment is 207/896, or about 23%. 21:58:04 imagine every shot you take does this 21:58:27 1-7/3-26 more damage, blink, instakill 21:58:29 ...teleportation + confusion? 21:58:39 not sure I've ever seen that one 21:58:53 thats an unwield effect only 21:59:12 i guess you don't unwield disto all that much or something :p 21:59:15 -!- Bovinius has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:59:28 just give dispersal arrows a 1:100 chance to banish 21:59:39 :p 21:59:53 johnstein: a blessing when that master archer banishes you from your grueling fate 22:00:09 see. it will balance out 22:00:20 a self correcting feature! 22:01:40 wait, can ranged weapons get holy wrath? 22:01:52 You've never blessed a longbow? 22:03:38 no 22:04:51 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:04:57 hm I forgot to give monsters with M_ARCHER their accuracy bonus back 22:06:14 don't!!!1 22:06:24 haha 22:06:44 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:01 -!- brainwrinkle__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:07:44 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 22:08:01 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:11 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:12:23 -!- Sonata has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:15:41 -!- Eonwe10 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:19 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:41 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:11 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:19:50 ... 22:20:06 deep elf master archer (15e) | Spd: 10 (msl: 60%) | HD: 15 | HP: 63-85 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer | Res: 06magic(100) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 2506 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 22:20:06 %??deep elf master archer 22:20:11 merfolk javelineer (16m) | Spd: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | HP: 69-87 | AC/EV: 0/14 | Dam: 17 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer, amphibious | Res: 06magic(69), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1126 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 22:20:11 %??merfolk javelineer 22:20:24 This might explain why DEMAs are faring so poorly in the current testing. 22:20:32 unknown monster: "0.12?deep elf master archer" 22:20:32 %?0.12?deep elf master archer 22:20:36 deep elf master archer (15e) | Spd: 10 (msl: 60%) | HD: 15 | HP: 64-85 | AC/EV: 0/15 | Dam: 25, 5 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, master archer | Res: 06magic(100) | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1511 | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 22:20:36 %0.12?deep elf master archer 22:21:05 uh 22:21:08 ow 22:21:20 ??deep elf master archer 22:21:20 deep elf master archer[1/4]: An average threat in 0.4, but in 0.5 a single master archer won 8 times out of 10 vs. a quicksilver dragon. Nerfed into oblivion in 0.6. 22:21:20 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 22:21:25 [ranged_combat dc78136] Unnerf deep elf master archers. 22:21:32 what's the change 22:21:41 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:42 so will they go back to murdering quicksilver dragons? 22:21:44 - { {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 5}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK }, 22:21:44 + { {AT_HIT, AF_PLAIN, 25}, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK, AT_NO_ATK }, 22:22:01 %git 0f74bc222cbb 22:22:02 07DracoOmega02 * 0.14-a0-3163-g0f74bc2: Remove misleadingly non-functional AT_SHOOT attacks 10(6 weeks ago, 4 files, 14+ 26-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=0f74bc222cbb 22:22:07 the melee damage actually affects missile damage? that sounds bad 22:22:07 apparently it didn't do anything 22:22:12 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 22:22:15 according to the comment there at least 22:22:24 I could always reintroduce AT_SHOOT now that it could actually do something? 22:22:42 The thing is that AT_SHOOT damage was basically identical to the next attack damage for every other enemy. 22:24:39 i can't really tell whether that commit is saying "the entire at_shoot attack did nothing" or "the at_shoot bit of the at_shoot attack did nothing" 22:24:43 -!- LordSloth has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:06 if it's the latter then yeah that seems bad 22:25:19 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:25:39 -!- Cabadath has joined ##crawl-dev 22:26:50 i guess i could compile 0.13 and fsim it or something 22:27:20 why are dema worth so much more xp now than in 0.12 22:27:58 Anyway, http://sprunge.us/NHaF is what I have right now. 22:28:09 (oh fsim probably doesn't work very well with this code yet, if it works at all) 22:28:31 oh is this only specific to the rewrite? 22:28:58 Hm? 22:29:34 i think he's saying that in current crawl the melee attack damage has nothing to do with ranged damage 22:29:36 i'm confused as to whether there's some bug where demas do less damage in 0.14 than 0.13 22:29:38 or does it? 22:29:42 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:29:50 I don't actually know how much of an impact first attack damage has on ranged attacks in trunk. 22:30:55 A lot of miscasts are very situationally useful, Is that intentional? [Most extreme case is if you create a twister (level 3 Air Magic miscast) then blink away the out of control tornado can wipe out a lot of enemies while you are away.] 3d20 explosions (radius 3) on earth and conjurations are also useful. 22:30:59 ??ranged combat 22:30:59 ranged combat[1/4]: Nobody understands ranged combat. 22:31:27 yes, getting hit with 3d20 is very good for you 22:31:37 ??air miscast 22:31:37 air miscast[1/1]: 1: 4-12 elec dmg / meph cloud / rain cloud 2: 3d8 elec explosion / poison cloud 3: ball lightning / twister / 12-40 dmg airstrike. 22:31:54 ball lightning? 22:32:05 2/3 of those are ok 22:32:45 gammafunk it's a you-centered explosion. like old immolation. not GOOD, but situationally useful, especially if you knew the spell was going to fail (heavy armour) and didn't take much damage yourself (heavy armour). 22:33:39 pretty sure you can't reliably stand around casting earth spells hoping to get an explosion and call that a reasonable strategy 22:34:16 I think I made a bad assumption when I was writing this code, but monster ranged attacks seem to be roughly as effective as they were against other monsters, at least, with this code. 22:34:53 a bad assumption? 22:35:00 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:45 wheals: yo 22:35:47 you around 22:35:55 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:35:56 http://sprunge.us/DeHd 22:38:38 does this mean that spider gargoyles can fly 22:38:45 Other potentially useful ones: Conjurations (1) [fog (full LoS)], Air (1) [rain (prevents other clouds and creates water)], huge Meph/Poison cloud cloud (full LoS) [poison 2 and 3], Tele Self [Translocations 2], Banish Self [Translocations 3], polymorph self (transmutations), remove 2-3 mutations (transmutations). [The ones that are straight DAMAGE YOU are never helpful, but those...can be.] 22:39:29 ? 22:39:35 hm 22:40:06 ...yeah, you'd have the same bug with them 22:40:07 hm 22:40:15 let me test 22:41:17 isn't that deliberate-ish? transformed black dracs can fly too which is even weirder since they're the one race that does fly with wings 22:41:38 maybe! i'm just asking 22:41:55 i know some form stuff was handwaved away because it would just make for annoyingness 22:42:02 but i don't know if that stuff is this stuff necessarily 22:42:20 ontoclasm: so how's the leather suit 22:42:28 (You squash the annoyance like a bug!!!) 22:42:33 yeah no I remember a discussion about this 22:42:34 Grunt: if only 22:42:43 races with permaflight keep it while transformed 22:42:48 which is sort of silly but w/e 22:42:52 ok 22:43:16 It's a little weird that you can do things with miscasts that you can't do with normal spells at least. (fog, rain, larger clouds, tele self). feels like it either should be all bad things or limited to random thing you could have done on purpose. 22:43:40 ??transmutation miscast 22:43:41 transmutation miscast ~ transmutations miscast[1/1]: By severity: 1: 1-11 damage or random uselessness. 2: 3-25 damage, 0-18 {contam}, {petrification}, or {confusion}. 3: 3-20 dmg AND 0-34 {contam}, 5-27 dmg AND delete mutation, 5-27 dmg AND 1-2 bad mutations. 22:45:22 actually... 22:45:31 you.racial_permanent_flight() is checked in _flying_in_new_form(which_trans) 22:46:18 also in form_can_fly 22:47:28 wheals: Also, while on the subject of bugfixing, #5310 is still open, with a patch that resolves the issue. 22:47:57 why is treeform SIZE_HUGE 22:48:02 !bug 5310 22:48:02 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5310 22:48:36 apparently merfolk statues can walk in deep water deliberately 22:48:45 this stuff is a mess 22:48:45 2 is worse than 3 on transmutations...can say the same with necro, especially if you are undead. 22:48:49 time for Grunt to get started on transform.cc rewrite imo 22:48:51 ??necro miscast 22:48:52 necromancy miscast[1/1]: By severity: 1: Slowing, (living) 5-19 dmg, rotting. 2: 1-3 shadows, (living) draining, 15-37 damage. 3: Reaper, soul eater, 1-7 statloss, draining, (living) severe rot, or torment. 22:48:58 noooooooooo 22:49:03 (pls don't nerf blade hands) 22:49:33 reaverb: i think MarvinPA said that could have trouble with divide by 0? or was i misremembering 22:49:51 wheals: That was resolved. I changed the patch. 22:49:56 oh, ok 22:49:57 oh yeah, so we're giving Grunt todo items? 22:50:01 let me go write some down 22:50:24 nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 22:50:44 wheals: elliptic suggested that avoiding a divide by zero error might be why the ternary operator is there, and I made a simple test to show it doesn't break in most cases. 22:50:51 !learn add Grunt TODO: Document every function I modify/create with doxygen comments. It's good for me! 22:50:52 ok, good 22:50:52 grunt[11/11]: TODO: Document every function I modify/create with doxygen comments. It's good for me! 22:50:58 !learn del grunt[11 22:50:58 Deleted grunt[11/11]: TODO: Document every function I modify/create with doxygen comments. It's good for me! 22:51:01 wut 22:51:04 haha 22:51:14 ??grunt[10 22:51:14 grunt[10/10]: (╯°□°）╯︵  ʇunɹb 22:51:18 o_O 22:51:32 pretty cute 22:51:47 wheals: want me to remove the redundant racial_permanent_flight() check from feat_dangerous_for_form()? 22:52:01 i did 22:52:06 cool 22:52:09 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:56:00 i think i will make trees not ok with being in water 22:56:25 tree nerf 22:56:34 v rude imho 22:57:01 tree buff, you can't be made one while over water 22:57:09 o 22:57:16 but what if you want to lignify 22:57:17 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:57:59 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:13 you will be sad 22:59:27 really you are saving players from themselves, in that hypothetical case. 22:59:53 -!- Satonakaja has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59:56 I still like the idea of a *tree weapon but it's hard to imagine what you'd offer a player to make them actually think about using it 23:00:48 PleasingFungus: Evocable Borg's revification. 23:00:56 hahaha 23:01:17 I was thinking about making it spawn friendly snaplasher vines when it treeformed you 23:01:22 to drag enemies to you 23:01:26 that'd be a lot of code, though 23:01:43 PleasingFungus: That sounds more fun, but good luck with the tentacle code. 23:01:48 haha 23:01:56 yeah I'm working on easier items first 23:02:48 PleasingFungus: If you have any done I'd recommend mantising them now, thre's no reason to withhold them until the rest are done. 23:02:59 I was going to wait until the tourney was over 23:03:06 it seemed more fun 23:03:33 A lot of signifant changes are probably going to land shortly after the tournament ends. 23:04:27 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:04:38 sure, I might have to rebase 23:04:47 & repatch 23:05:04 not the end of the world, though, and I doubt this stuff is gonna get merged in before the end of the tournament anyway 23:05:10 even if it's accepted 23:05:18 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 23:05:24 PleasingFungus: That's your choice, but the patch can always just sit on mantis until after the toruny. 23:05:37 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:55 Being able to cast a meph-sized targeted rain (with air/conj) would be really cool. less immediately useful than the Fedhas ability, but...useful...as it's actually clouds it'd block other clouds being placed and place shallow water...much more slowly. 23:11:31 -!- CKyle_ has quit [Quit: CKyle_] 23:12:02 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 23:14:40 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 23:15:18 -!- zeia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:15:37 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:16:41 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:18:11 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:25:47 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:25:49 Seigurt (L22 MiBe) ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1205: invalid monster to place: program bug (0) (WizLab) 23:25:58 mm 23:26:24 Now *that* was interesting 23:26:25 !send qw ghost yaks 23:26:25 Sending ghost yaks to qw. 23:26:31 er 23:26:32 doh 23:26:42 Keanan: I think that's not the first time that's happened? 23:26:47 Something to do with ra-- 23:26:47 oh 23:26:55 It just occurred to me what the problem probably is. 23:26:57 Um, boggarts in LOS. 23:27:06 Boggarts would trigger it too! 23:27:21 Glad to be of service :) 23:27:25 !crashlog seigurt 23:27:25 1. Seigurt, XL22 MiBe, T:60822 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Seigurt/crash-Seigurt-20140418-042549.txt 23:27:59 !vault wizlab_golubria 23:28:00 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/wizlab.des;hb=HEAD#l1582 23:28:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:28:49 set_random_mon_list([[rakshasa w:15 23:30:41 oh 23:30:45 That's not even the problem. 23:30:57 The problem is the blank entry at the end. 23:32:32 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 23:32:44 Some god abilities (e.g. Fedhas reproduction) can cost a turn and fail when not useful by crate 23:32:55 -!- ToastyP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:33:14 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:33:38 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:34:30 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:21 !lm * crash milestone~~program_bug -2 23:35:23 2/3. [2014-04-14 19:29:31] darkli the Severer (L17 HOBe of Trog) ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1205: invalid monster to place: program bug (0) (WizLab) 23:35:26 !lm * crash milestone~~program_bug -3 23:35:32 1/3. [2014-04-05 08:57:13] SkiChan the Conqueror (L24 MiFi of Nemelex Xobeh) ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1205: invalid monster to place: program bug (0) (WizLab) 23:36:15 gah 23:36:20 It appears that my fix isn't actually a fix >:( 23:36:33 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:36:39 ...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a second. 23:36:47 -!- schistosomatic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:19 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 23:40:27 Actually, I think the fix for this is a lot easier than I thought. 23:40:37 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:23 -!- Fizybubbleh has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:42:11 -!- johlstei_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:00 -!- GummyVite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:45:19 -!- johlstei has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45:52 -!- johlstei_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:48:03 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-173-gaeee4a3: Fix enchant armour messaging (#8385) 10(31 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=aeee4a373461 23:48:04 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 23:50:35 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:51:21 -!- Yen is now known as Netmonmatt 23:52:17 -!- brainwrinkle_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:56:41 what is a rakshasa and a centaur warrior doing on d:9 23:57:05 oh, there was a wand of healing hiding somewhere this game 23:57:07 nevermind then 23:58:12 ...okay, two stage fix, only one of which I'm going to push into 0.14 for now. 23:59:02 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:13 -!- turde has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]