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In 0.14, applies curare on 2 out of 5 hits in addition to venom brand. 00:25:25 1learn add good 00:27:16 -!- metasyntactic is now known as kunwon1 00:27:20 i'm tearing depths apart with this thing 00:27:24 it's Great 00:27:43 RIP AND TEAR 00:27:43 rip 00:27:50 good Sequell 00:28:05 !learn add goodsequell RIP AND TEAR rip 00:28:06 goodsequell[7/7]: RIP AND TEAR rip 00:28:17 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 00:29:54 Wrath gives no XP? 00:30:15 wrong channel 00:30:58 -!- Somefellow has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- Lantell has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- Sombrero_Mott has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 00:30:58 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:48 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 00:37:09 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 00:37:19 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 00:38:17 are phantom mirror clones supposed to have full hp 00:39:00 -!- vadatajs has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43:50 -!- wat1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:44:29 -!- Eonwe7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:50:44 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:45 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:45 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:50 -!- ogaz has quit [Changing host] 00:50:50 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:50 -!- Thalfon has quit [Changing host] 00:50:50 -!- fizybubbleh has quit [Changing host] 00:50:51 -!- Basil has quit [Changing host] 00:50:51 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:51 -!- nogardark has quit [Changing host] 00:50:52 -!- zeia_ has quit [Changing host] 00:50:52 -!- notcluie has quit [Changing host] 00:50:53 -!- tabstorm has quit [Changing host] 00:51:37 ok 00:51:55 here's what i have so far for the future of crawl now that I'm in charge 00:52:37 ...oh 00:52:42 you never saw this 00:53:39 -!- djinni has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:25 -!- ivan`` has joined ##crawl-dev 00:57:53 -!- Cabadath has quit [Quit: If you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of other people.] 00:59:13 -!- Pisano has quit [] 01:00:45 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:01:20 jesus christ now i see why people hate yellow draconians 01:01:49 Bloax: Because they're the worst playable draconian, or the worst enemy draconian 01:02:07 well i just had an encounter with three of them 01:02:29 +1 gloves -> -1 +0 helmet -> -1 +2 boots -> +1 01:02:39 and that's just three 01:02:50 (oh and my shield is now -3 instead of +0) 01:03:35 I suppose you never had an encounter with lemuel_acid_trip 01:03:48 -!- Roarke has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:04:13 well if something is terrible does that mean something else shouldn't be less terrible 01:12:29 -!- Fortis has quit [Client Quit] 01:14:19 -!- ldlework has quit 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demon blade bastard sword merge 01:42:24 (How would that work anyways, base damage 14 base delay 13?) 01:45:48 -!- ayutzia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:48:41 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:50:44 -!- buzzykins has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:53:34 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-145-ge9bf03d: ID curse scrolls on game start. 10(5 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e9bf03de390c 01:53:34 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 01:57:17 -!- sildraith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:57:32 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:01:49 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 02:02:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:04:29 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 02:07:36 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:12:03 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:16:02 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 02:16:39 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14.0-9-g9c5475a 02:17:57 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09:26:37 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:52 bh: you could join team HEIE 09:27:15 gammafunk: is it full of terrible players who only play HEIE? 09:27:21 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:27:45 well, it is currently full on one terrible player who only plays HEIE, but it doesn't have to be that 09:27:56 *full of 09:28:21 nothing wrong with HEIE anyway, it's a fun combo 09:28:24 # TEAMCAPTAIN gammafunk, all is done. 09:28:34 bh: welcome abord 09:28:49 *aboard 09:28:57 this is a cosmetic suggestion, but, I sort of miss the old abyss style 09:29:00 good spelling is obviously not a requirement 09:29:10 in tiles, could we get 'darker than normal' out-of-LOS in abyss tiles? 09:29:27 hrm, didn't know that was a thing 09:29:47 it isn't 09:29:49 ogaz: you are 100% correct about HEIE 09:30:03 oh, that's not what you meant by old abyss style? 09:30:14 I presume that we implement out-of-LOS coloring with some black overlay tile with like 40% alpha 09:30:26 for the abyss, maybe we could make it like 80% alpha 09:30:45 The reason I changed map rot in the abyss is because it's a pain in the butt to get lost 09:30:53 but the old insta-rot map style was pretty 09:31:18 oh that's what you meant by old abyss style; I guess I didn't notice that change 09:31:55 gammafunk: in the times of old, anything out of LOS would maprot instantly 09:32:57 hrm, well if it improves visibility of the abyss I'm all for it. a screenshot of the change would be nice to see 09:33:42 "improves" 09:33:49 Monster Zapped Wands do not ID by brendan 09:35:23 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 09:38:08 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:29 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:40:37 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 09:40:59 were throwing nets changed to not rip in .14? 09:41:10 yes 09:41:18 nice, what's the details? 09:41:20 well, to not degrade; they just have a chance of mulch 09:41:34 chance when thrown, or when escaping? 09:44:29 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 09:44:37 when escaping iirc 09:47:04 same effect except with less i - 2 Throwing Net {kinda useless} j - Throwing Net k - 3 Throwing net {pretty useless} l - 2 Throwing Net {free waste of a turn} 09:48:41 !messages 09:48:42 No messages for TZer0. 09:49:26 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:49:27 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:49:40 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:50 Football is a game of inches. Crawl is a game of corridors. 09:57:06 will the random stat gain at certain levelups ever be changed to be deterministic? 09:57:30 or, has that been discussed much? 09:57:48 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:03:03 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:43 well alternatively instead of giving either one or the other 10:04:46 it could just be all of them :^) 10:05:43 so instead of 1 str or dex every 4th level it'd be 1 str and dex every 4th level 10:07:18 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 10:07:40 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 10:08:47 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 10:12:44 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:20:44 rast: I don't remember that ever being discussed here 10:21:08 Bloax that would be... strong 10:21:14 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:25 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:25:39 well you could also change it to a s-4/d-6 system 10:33:17 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:36:32 -!- Eonwe7 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:45:38 so on an incredibly minor note 10:45:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46:01 on a mummy's list of inherent mutations, they have "Your flesh is vulnerable to fire. Your flesh is cold resistant." Isn't more of bandages? 10:47:49 -!- WildSam has quit [Client Quit] 10:51:01 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:24 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:03 Would anyone object to a change where, on the first book gift by Sif she always represents the magic school with the highest skill? 10:57:32 -!- radinms has quit [] 10:57:39 As in for randart books, your highest school would be the first selected, and for nonrandarts the book has at least one spell from said school? 10:58:20 -!- jcd748 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59:45 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 11:00:18 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:50 elliptic: thoughts on that sif tweak? I don't think it'd introduce any inconsistency in the logic of how she gifts spells and would be a modest change to avoid the frustration of getting a useless book on the first gift 11:02:41 so for some reason, my ally autopickup behavior has been randomly changing 11:02:52 ignoring spellcasting, I assume? 11:03:10 I try to have it on "pick up anything" but occasionally I check and it's "pick up only from friendlies" 11:03:11 yeah, I think SC is always ignored for book gifting purposes 11:03:22 ogaz: it gets reset when you change levels 11:03:24 for sif, at least 11:03:36 wheals: ah, thanks 11:03:38 you need to set it in the rcfile if you want it permanent 11:03:49 I guess SC might be used for book acquire when deciding to gift manuals or not 11:04:05 hm, I worry a bit about it being spoily (make sure that fire is slightly higher than conj so that you are guaranteed a fire spell, not a conj spell) 11:04:55 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 11:04:59 also sif encouraging players to branch out is sort of part of the point of sif I feel 11:05:08 hrm, well it could cover the top two schools, but that only works for randart books really 11:05:17 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:05:18 -!- Ciph has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:05:21 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:43 and even that would probably mess up spell selection 11:06:03 I think in general I'd prefer non-special-casing the first sif gift, but instead improving the existing spell school weighting for all gifts 11:06:18 right, that does seem better 11:06:40 (I don't know exactly how they would be improved, mainly because I don't know exactly how it works at the moment :P) 11:06:42 I'm sure the next bad first gift will put me over the edge, and I'll sit down and try to improve it 11:07:10 it's a little wacky, but it's fairly reasonable; 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Use !messages to read them. 13:15:29 18 games for * (t killer=unseen_horror): 7x D:10, 4x D:6, 2x D:9, 2x D:8, D:4, D:7, D:15 13:15:37 D4? wow 13:19:25 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:19:44 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:19:56 yeah 13:20:03 I've seen one on d:4 as well 13:20:12 it was in an enclosed vault though 13:20:19 a naga could probably avoid it by just running back 13:23:46 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:51 johnstein: T-Zer0 would be jealous of your messages 13:26:25 :) 13:26:29 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:26:39 !tell johnstein No messates for johnstein. 13:26:40 Grunt: OK, I'll let johnstein know. 13:26:41 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:26:42 er 13:26:43 rip 13:26:44 :( 13:26:49 !send TZer0 some of Johnstein's messages 13:26:49 johnstein: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 13:26:49 Sending some of Johnstein's messages to TZer0. 13:27:04 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:28:14 !messages 13:28:14 No messages for johnstein. 13:29:53 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 13:30:05 -!- Fhqwhgads__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:30:30 -!- TangoBravo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:32:34 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:35:15 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 13:35:49 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 13:42:26 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:47 -!- ckyle has joined ##crawl-dev 13:44:31 !tell wheals v0.14 is default for startup menu in console now 13:44:32 johnstein: OK, I'll let wheals know. 13:44:43 thanks! 13:45:10 !send wheals storms 13:45:10 Sending storms to wheals. 13:45:16 np. I don't play console much, if any, so I don't remember these things 13:45:31 !send Grunt glaciate 13:45:32 Sending glaciate to Grunt. 13:46:04 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:49:16 -!- Stendarr has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:49:47 the current shadow demon tile seems hard to read (been spectating people on webtiles). Can't really tell what it is 13:50:46 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:55 well truthfully it is a shadow demon after all 13:52:49 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:53:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:54:58 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:46 (I miss shadow frogs.) 13:57:44 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 13:57:45 Is there a design reason why console players don't see messages from webtiles spectators? 13:58:00 (Or am I misinformed?) 13:58:06 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 13:58:33 sometimes webtiles spectators hit a critical mass, and it can turn into a chatroom sometimes, which would be annoying if it showed up in the ingame message area 13:58:42 if you have logging enabled you can still check it with ?: though 14:00:02 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:20 (I miss shadow frogs.) 14:00:22 imo this is is a shadow demon http://vimeo.com/7753129 14:00:26 it could still croak though 14:01:45 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:01:51 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 14:02:24 evilmike: hmm---seems like it'd be better to be gated by an option, then? 14:02:26 ??shadow demon 14:02:27 I don't have a page labeled shadow_demon in my learndb. 14:02:28 rip 14:02:45 wait are shadow demons gone? this totally ruins my kobold demonologist vault =( 14:02:49 nrook: not really going to happen, getting tiles messages in console 14:02:55 nrook: they're still around!! 14:02:58 shadow demon (062) | Spd: 10 | HD: 10 | HP: 39-73 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Dam: 21 | 05demonic, 10doors, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 713 | Sp: shadow creatures, sum.demon | Sz: small | Int: high. 14:02:58 %??shadow demon 14:03:02 ok good 14:03:03 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:03:35 Could not execute monster-0.8: No such file or directory 14:03:35 %0.8?shadow demon 14:03:38 shadow demon (063) | Speed: 11 | HD: 6 | Health: 20-46 | AC/EV: 7/12 | Damage: 21 | Flags: 05demonic, see invisible | Res: 06magic(56), 02cold++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 198. 14:03:38 %0.9?shadow demon 14:03:49 huh, i thought they had inate invis too? 14:03:55 They did at some point. 14:03:58 Not any more. 14:06:52 %git f7dde33c 14:06:53 07MarvinPA02 * 0.10-a0-609-gf7dde33: Upgrade Shadow demons to 2, give them some summoning spells 10(2 years, 7 months ago, 7 files, 39+ 30-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7dde33c0ab2 14:08:09 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 14:09:41 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:10:24 gammafunk: if it's a matter of priorities, I'd be willing to implement it as a patch. (If it's not that's fine) 14:10:28 (possibly ask MarvinPA if that was intentional) 14:11:54 it was, i don't think a perm invis summoner is a great idea and there's already another perm invis demon also 14:12:25 i dont object to it, i just thought they were always invisible for some reason 14:13:59 nrook: well the problem is, how are you planning to display them? 14:14:25 obviously you can't use the message system since hitting _ for each one would be horrible 14:14:45 and you can hit ?: to see them currently 14:15:03 there's not really room in the console window continuous messages, although I suppose that could be configurable 14:15:19 I have 0 experience making cursor addressing programs though 14:15:35 I was planning on just using _, actually; it'd be bad if there was significant discussion going on, but if you have 1-2 spectators it'd be fine 14:15:43 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:16:15 hmm, one could also just provide a "new messages, hit ?: to look at them" alert 14:16:23 similar to the _ alert now 14:16:25 right, the worry is that webtiles can be _very_ chatty sometimes 14:16:31 yeah, possibly next to _ 14:16:37 but, having some notification for console players would indeed be nice 14:16:39 just a "?:" string 14:16:39 I think the only sane way to do it would be a separate chat screen. 14:17:03 the question is just what key it should be bound to 14:17:12 no, that's not the question at all 14:17:41 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:18:53 nrook: I think the situation with console spectators for webtiles games is worse, btw... the messages are actually unreadable 14:19:02 hmm, yeah, a ?: notification would probably be the simplest way to do it 14:19:14 not sure why you are only worrying about one direction :P 14:20:23 -!- __K_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:20:56 elliptic: I think it's easier to watch the "wrong" Crawl view than to play it, but yeah, that's not so good either 14:21:04 huh? 14:21:19 I have no clue what that means 14:21:50 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:22:04 never mind---my point was that it's easier for a console spectator to spectate using webtiles instead. but that's not actually true or relevant 14:23:13 I do think console spectators for webtiles is a harder problem to solve; it would be too much work to implement an ncurses chat client just for this 14:24:01 nrook: yeah, I think the only thing that'd be reasonable is to have a chat "pane" appear in console upon keystroke, but that's a lot of work 14:24:04 well, at the very least the messages should not be lost forever 14:24:37 elliptic: you mean messages sent in console? 14:24:40 yes 14:25:09 I thought webtiles players could at least hit _ to see messages from console players? 14:25:09 that seems like it'd be a reasonbly easy fix 14:25:13 do they only get recorded in the log if you actually hit _? 14:25:20 wheals: yeah 14:25:22 huh 14:25:40 oh, I didn't realize that they were ever recorded 14:25:52 or are we talking ttyrec 14:26:02 talking notes 14:26:06 ah, ok 14:26:08 you could just have the console messages show up in the webtiles chat, but then webtiles spectators would probably respond to them 14:26:19 so _ is better 14:26:22 nrook: yeah 14:26:23 -!- duckroller has quit [Quit: i <3 pork (http://dev.ojnk.net)] 14:27:45 so, (1) silenceable "hit ?:" notification in console when a webtiles message arrives 14:28:07 (2) "hit _" notification (and _ implementation) for webtiles players who receive a message from console 14:28:48 hrm, do the webtiles messages even show up if the player isn't noting chat messages? 14:28:51 I mean show up in ?: 14:29:00 gammafunk: no 14:29:22 gammafunk: and some people seem to feel fairly strongly that webchat shouldn't be logged by default 14:29:38 yeah I'd be in that camp 14:30:23 nrook: so the ?: notification would only be useful for people who note chat messages 14:31:04 you could store webchat messages in something other than notes and add a new screen somewhere that just shows the chat log 14:31:16 that is what has been previously discussed, I think 14:31:24 yeah, that'd be reasonable 14:31:35 yeah, it seems a little odd that you'd have to let webchat clutter your notes in order to see it 14:31:48 -!- Reign_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:31:54 ac 39, ev 16, xl 14 14:31:56 feelin diesel 14:32:02 nrook: that's less hard than doing a special pane in console 14:32:03 ??diesel 14:32:03 diesel[1/4]: Invented by mikee_, the fuel to power the generation of tomorrow. 14:32:03 oops wrong channel :( 14:32:07 ??diesel[2 14:32:07 diesel[2/4]: All races have had a diesel game! 14:32:10 feelin noob as fuck 14:32:11 gah 14:32:25 i can't post in the wrong channel because i'm banned from the right one :^) 14:32:26 gammafunk: yes, separate chat pane is much easier 14:32:39 yeah, I just checked and pressing _ doesn't read DGL messages in webtiles games 14:32:44 nrook: well, not a "pane" :) 14:32:49 so it isn't just that there isn't a notification 14:32:50 er, yes, wrong word 14:32:53 the pane is the hard one :p 14:32:53 depending on how we're abusing that terminology 14:33:01 separate mode is the easy one 14:33:08 not sure how hard it would be to fix, I don't know much about the code in question 14:33:08 a "window" 14:33:35 a screen 14:33:41 of course in emacs a "pane" is a "window" and a "window" is a "frame" 14:33:46 you know, like the inventory screen 14:34:17 you mean the inventory window 14:34:56 _ for webtiles is doable too, but frankly I'm not a webdev so it'd take me awhile to do 14:35:44 that's not hard; it's probably just akin to an mpr() 14:36:09 you could also give console spectators a "view webchat" window to visit, and appropriate notifications when it changes, and just route console messages through to webchat 14:36:32 -!- the_glow has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:36:44 it seems a little absurd to have two parallel chat implementations for the slightly different semantics of console messages (directed at player, higher-content) and webchat messages (directed to everyone, lower-content) 14:37:16 well, the perk is that console messages are less likely to annoy the player 14:37:41 in that they tend to come from people who are not random webtiles spectators 14:37:56 and instead random console spectators 14:38:19 they tend to be not random because of the console community 14:39:33 -!- whiterider has quit [Quit: This user has gone to sleep.] 14:39:44 dang 14:40:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:40:53 yes, there are social aspects to unification that are much harder than the technical problems 14:41:20 anyway, I'm gonna declare that out of scope for my proposed patch 14:42:00 (how many new players does console even have) 14:43:11 is there somewhere I should propose this (mantis?) 14:43:22 before I start working on a patch, to see if it's a good idea? 14:43:36 heh, well crawl-dev is probably the best place 14:43:36 (missed backspace on message, hit enter instead :/) 14:43:42 if you like you can send a mail to CRD 14:43:55 -!- P_R_Deltoid has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:45:05 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:05 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 14:45:05 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:22 there are about 1000 accounts with their first console game in cv>=0.13 14:45:33 IMO a decent number of new players 14:45:48 (3000 accounts with their first tiles game in cv>=0.13) 14:47:58 mm 14:48:05 I wonder how those statistics break down per cv 14:51:23 fr: don't let one of the 4 "guaranteed" shops in O4 be a shop mimic :C 14:52:21 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:52:59 oh, sorry, those numbers aren't right 14:53:54 actual numbers are about 700 and 6000 14:55:21 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 14:55:41 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 14:55:48 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:55:52 -!- Fhqwhgads__ is now known as Fhqwhgads_ 14:57:08 -!- Keanan1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:07 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:58:38 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Client Quit] 14:59:13 !firstgameafter 0.13 14:59:16 6517 14:59:17 !firstgameafter 0.13 tiles 14:59:23 6307 14:59:23 !firstgameafter 0.13 !tiles 14:59:29 712 14:59:37 Grunt: ^ 14:59:55 !firstgameafter 0.1 14:59:57 37927.0 15:00:06 nice .0, sequell 15:00:39 also, while we are doing stats, the tourney has been running for exactly 48 hours now 15:00:42 !tstats 2 15:00:45 Stats after 2 days (t): 939 players, 219 runers, 81 winners, 107 wins, winrate 1.37%, total player time 172d+12:07:03. 15:00:48 !tstats 2 t0.13 15:00:50 signed int16, the king of types 15:00:52 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:00:59 Stats after 2 days (t0.13): 751 players, 132 runers, 68 winners, 84 wins, winrate 1.31%, total player time 132d+11:58:15. 15:01:10 nrook: signed ints for things that will never go below 0 15:01:17 !!!! 15:01:19 and we can compare with last tourney after 48 hours 15:02:41 !lg * t s=src 15:02:41 8564 games for * (t): 3568x cszo, 2439x cao, 981x clan, 759x ckr, 500x cbro, 317x cdo 15:02:49 !tstats 2 t0.21 15:02:49 Subcommand $(!lg * t0.21 1 fmt:"${rend}") failed: Unknown tourney version: 0.21 in $(sub 6 8 ${t}) in $(int $(sub 6 8 ${t})) in $(+ ${n} $(int $(sub 6 8 ${t... in $(< ${m} 10) in $(if $(< ${m} 10) $(concat $... in $(add_days $(!lg * ${2:-t} 1... in $(concat ${2:-t} rend<$(ad... 15:02:52 um 15:02:54 !tstats 2 t0.12 15:03:04 Stats after 2 days (t0.12): 761 players, 107 runers, 55 winners, 62 wins, winrate 0.90%, total player time 135d+20:00:56. 15:03:05 !lg * t s=src x=cdist(name) o=cdist(name) 15:03:06 8566 games for * (t): 3569x cszo [356], 2439x cao [336], 981x clan [130], 500x cbro [78], 759x ckr [53], 318x cdo [36] 15:03:06 !lm * t s=src 15:03:07 56120 milestones for * (t): 25307x cszo, 13808x cao, 7662x clan, 4123x cbro, 3193x ckr, 2027x cdo 15:03:09 i don't think we're that far into the future 15:03:19 !tstats 2 t0.11 15:03:30 it would be cool to make a bunch of charts with the more interesting stats, and compare the various tournaments 15:03:30 Stats after 2 days (t0.11): 688 players, 87 runers, 44 winners, 55 wins, winrate 0.92%, total player time 117d+12:41:48. 15:03:41 what does cdist do? 15:03:44 count distinct 15:03:48 -!- xezzy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:03:49 oh nice 15:03:57 hm 15:04:00 so 78 players have finished at least one game on cbro in tourney 15:04:13 78 different players? 15:04:24 well, 78 accounts 15:04:31 yea. that's what I meant 15:04:33 cool 15:04:41 23.3% Of players have gotten a rune in 0.14 15:04:42 30 of them are from MFC but that's still a lot 15:04:57 17.6% for 0.13 15:05:08 14% for 0.12 15:05:12 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:05:18 12.6% for 0.11 15:05:21 (after two days) 15:05:42 thanks runelock? 15:06:00 yeah, I assume that the increase is just players not putting off getting runes until later 15:06:03 less people splat in vaults i guess 15:06:16 lies 15:07:05 less people splat in vaults before they have a rune i guess* 15:07:08 are you happy now 15:07:23 definitely fewer splats in V without any runes, yes 15:07:41 perhaps going as far as 0 in 0.14! 15:08:02 I haven't played a ton, but so far, if I get a character >XL 20, I either win, or die in V% 15:08:04 V5 15:08:12 now how would this be done 15:08:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:08:28 !lg * cv=0.13~ place=vaults urune=0 15:08:28 No games for * (cv=0.13~ place=vaults urune=0). 15:08:39 i'm terrible at this 15:08:39 !lg * cv=0.13 place=vaults urune=0 15:08:40 277. Vidiiot the Brawler (L17 TrSu of Okawaru), slain by a vault guard (a +1,+2 great mace of protection) on Vaults:4 (v_misc_32) on 2014-04-03 12:54:19, with 177487 points after 31965 turns and 3:05:06. 15:08:59 !lg * cv=0.13 place=vaults urune=0 s=xl 15:08:59 277 games for * (cv=0.13 place=vaults urune=0): 65x 16, 57x 17, 52x 18, 31x 19, 29x 15, 14x 14, 14x 20, 5x 21, 4x 13, 3x 12, 2x 22, 11 15:09:22 what are xl22 characters doing without any runes splatting in vaults 15:12:34 !lg * cv=0.13 place=vaults urune=0 xl=22 1 15:12:35 1/2. Nordon the Warrior (L22 GrFi of Makhleb), slain by a vault warden (a +0,+0 bardiche) on Vaults:5 (vaults_vault) on 2013-10-26 07:28:10, with 343765 points after 43352 turns and 2:48:11. 15:12:36 !lg * cv=0.13 place=vaults urune=0 xl=22 2 15:12:37 2. BoredOne the Devastator (L22 TeCj of Vehumet), blasted by Saint Roka (divine providence) on Vaults:4 on 2013-12-03 20:08:33, with 347652 points after 98111 turns and 9:02:33. 15:12:49 (good V:5 on that first one) 15:16:06 -!- sixaxi has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:18:57 We meet at last, Asterion 15:19:16 !lm * t urune=1 min=xl 15:19:17 3187. [2014-04-13 01:19:22] jeanjacques the Dissolver (L11 DDHe of Jiyva) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 8178. (Slime:6) 15:19:32 !lm * t urune=1 min=xl milestone!~slimy 15:19:33 3184. [2014-04-12 08:24:56] gammafunk the Summoner (L12 HEIE of Sif Muna) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 10994. (Swamp:5) 15:19:45 !lm * t urune=1 min=xl milestone!~slimy -2 15:19:45 !lm * urune=1 min=xl 15:19:46 3183/3184. [2014-04-13 01:29:43] jeanjacques the Royal Jelly (L12 DDHe of Jiyva) killed Nessos on turn 10266. (D:12) 15:19:48 352144. [2009-08-10 19:17:37] KiloByte the Ducker (L2 SpCK) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 427. (Abyss) 15:20:34 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:42 !lm * t (( milestone!~slimy && milestone=~"rune of Zot" )) 15:23:42 !lg 15:23:42 rip sequell 15:23:43 No keyword '&&' 15:23:43 1295. gammafunk the Summoner (L12 HEIE of Sif Muna), hit from afar by a merfolk javelineer (steel javelin) (kmap: shoalhut_rune) on Shoals:5 on 2014-04-13 04:16:42, with 19780 points after 10171 turns and 2:04:39. 15:24:30 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:24:53 gammafunk: && is automatic... 15:24:58 ah, thanks 15:25:17 !lm * t milestone=~"rune of Zot" god!=Jiyva min=xl 15:25:18 also, you can just do this: 15:25:19 1218. [2014-04-12 08:24:56] gammafunk the Summoner (L12 HEIE of Sif Muna) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 10994. (Swamp:5) 15:25:31 !lm * t rune noun!=slimy min=xl 15:25:31 1153. [2014-04-12 08:24:56] gammafunk the Summoner (L12 HEIE of Sif Muna) found a decaying rune of Zot on turn 10994. (Swamp:5) 15:25:39 oh that's nice, thanks 15:25:44 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 15:25:47 you have all 3 right now i think 15:25:53 wheals: yeah 15:26:00 just improved my standing in fact! 15:26:05 it is listed on http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.14/overview.html , yes 15:26:34 I didn't even know it was a thing until I was browsing that page 15:26:54 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:27:14 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy min=xl 15:27:16 64233. [2013-10-10 02:50:59] splat the Covert (L9 SpWr of Ashenzari) found an abyssal rune of Zot on turn 5459. (Abyss:3) 15:27:18 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:25 heh, L9 not easy to beat 15:27:49 or match, for that matter 15:28:38 Rename "bow" to "shortbow" by chris 15:29:34 abyssal is excluded too 15:30:00 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal min=xl 15:30:02 60709. [2013-05-07 22:52:31] hjklyubn the Jinx (L10 SpEn of Ashenzari) found a barnacled rune of Zot on turn 5401. (Shoals:5) 15:30:16 nice username 15:30:34 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:36 a rune at 5401 turns 15:30:41 !lm . recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=char x=min(xl) 15:30:42 321 milestones for jeanjacques (recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 37x SpEn [10], 22x TrMo [18], 15x NaAr [17], 13x DDHe [12], 13x GhBe [25], 12x OgPr [17], 12x DrEn [15], 12x HuAs [17], 11x DsSk [20], 11x MiAr [15], 10x HaAr [19], 9x OgAr [16], 9x VSAr [15], 7x NaJr [15], 6x HaIE [17], 5x DjAK [16], 4x TeAr [13], 4x CeAM [20], 4x GhAr [20], 4x SEAr [14], 4x OpAr [16], 3x TrFi [16], 3x DsIE [... 15:30:55 -!- stuntaneous has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:30:59 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=char x=min(xl) o=-min(xl) 15:31:01 60709 milestones for * (recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 1031x SpEn [10], 45x SpWr [10], 42x SpNe [11], 310x DDEE [11], 26x LOHe [11], 34x SpAr [11], 409x DDBe [12], 211x HEIE [12], 18x SpJr [12], 926x LOFi [12], 52x SpAK [12], FePr [12], 170x DDHe [12], 143x LOSk [12], 55x TeAr [13], 20x HuHe [13], 540x TrMo [13], 70x LOMo [13], 25x DDWn [13], 56x DDAr [13], 58x VpAs [13], 7x MiHe [13], 53... 15:31:11 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:13 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 15:31:23 heh, 12 at HEIE 15:31:25 are they all me 15:31:31 !lg * heie s=name 15:31:31 5737 games for * (heie): 723x gammafunk, 437x Faydane, 176x larasium, 134x Luterac, 130x wheals, 129x qtip, 83x Diamant, 69x pubby, 67x Baraton, 62x Dalvant, 53x jejorda2, 52x oxeimon, 52x Flure, 51x tcircuits, 51x Xiberia, 44x SniffingPanties, 42x moq, 38x m1nced, 34x Garhauk, 33x syllogism, 33x Kamina, 33x DrKe, 31x Neil, 31x nyaakitty, 31x ogaz, 31x ribbit, 29x ArrogantPhoenix, 28x rend, 28x Gr... 15:31:38 statistically probably 15:31:41 !lg * heie / devteam 15:31:41 No keyword 'devteam' 15:31:42 !lm * recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=name x=min(xl) o=-min(xl) 15:31:44 60709 milestones for * (recent rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 15x hjklyubn [10], 320x jeanjacques [10], 46x splat [10], 6x Sapher [11], ApplePsyder [12], 126x gammafunk [12], 53x joew [12], 7x patrick [12], 43x Laany [12], 64x Avigdore [12], 64x Poncheis [12], 8x QuickScotch [12], 180x hanon12 [12], 295x Thrall [12], 72x lakren [12], 13x AlStar [12], 93x kyprion [12], 387x MorganLeah [12], 12x t... 15:31:45 !lg * heie / @devteam 15:31:45 922/5737 games for * (heie): N=922/5737 (16.07%) 15:32:04 not even 1/6th of all HEIE 15:32:09 need to play more 15:32:12 blame qtip 15:32:19 !lg * !@qtip heie / @devteam 15:32:20 922/5608 games for * (!@qtip heie): N=922/5608 (16.44%) 15:32:30 not really 15:33:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4 this is gammafunk every day 15:33:20 HEIEIEIE 15:33:56 "And he tries" "Oh my god I try" "i try all the time ;-;" 15:34:48 !hs * HEIE 15:34:48 5737. gammafunk the Genius of the Arcane (L27 HEIE of Sif Muna), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2013-10-19 22:10:40, with 24084354 points after 61517 turns and 17:44:43. 15:34:56 -!- Teh has quit [Client Quit] 15:36:18 -!- tabstorm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:36:49 !lm * t rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal s=name x=min(xl) o=-min(xl) 15:36:50 1103 milestones for * (t rune noun!=slimy noun!=abyssal): 4x gammafunk [12], 2x kyprion [14], 16x joy1999 [14], 7x Froggeryz [14], 3x Duralumin [15], nooodl [15], 2x agentgt [15], 7x puimuR [15], 11x WalkerBoh [15], 21x Snack [15], 5x elliptic [15], 3x avril [15], 12x MorganLeah [15], 6x trystero [15], 3x Garrluk [15], 2x AgentKoolAid [15], 5x qtip [15], 4x Piginabag [15], 3x Bloax [15], 2x suicid... 15:37:20 !lm * t won s=name x=min(sklev) o=-min(sklev) 15:37:21 8454 milestones for * (t won): 64x Glenstorm [2], 143x 78291 [2], 139x Basil [2], 132x PurpleRed [2], 177x Yermak [2], 131x simm [2], 127x irum [2], 100x ToastyP [2], 56x Demise [2], 56x TehDruid [2], 90x Lawman0 [2], 83x zkyp [2], 76x InternetKraken [2], 73x ebarrett [2], 60x tasonir [2], 70x odiv [2], 243x Roarke [2], 68x Starve [2], 198x Tolias [2], 192x Xen [2], 194x johnnyzero [2], 179x Hilar... 15:37:26 !lg * t won s=name x=min(sklev) o=-min(sklev) 15:37:27 110 games for * (t won): 2x johnnyzero [14], kraphead [17], 2x Yermak [19], 2x HilariousDeathArtist [19], 3x Snack [19], 2x 78291 [20], 2x jeanjacques [20], lyke [20], moocowmoocow [21], InternetKraken [21], Starve [21], rzimodnar [21], ebarrett [21], Zooty [21], Glenstorm [21], tasonir [22], 2x ToastyP [22], 2x MarvinPA [22], johlstei [22], 3x Tolias [22], hyperbowl [22], Tedronai [22], 3x Roarke... 15:37:41 you should watch the games where i got far with my suicidal gargoyles in the 0.13 tournament 15:37:45 they're usually pretty entertaining 15:38:14 -!- MDvedh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:40:47 -!- tcsc has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:48 -!- Shobalk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:44:47 sorry for sequell spamming -dev. i thought it was crawl 15:45:03 -!- LogicNinja has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:45 Iiiiii have a problem. 15:45:55 That is, CSZO crashed on me and now I can't get back into my game. 15:46:16 ACTUALLY NEVER MIND 15:46:20 Looks like it fixed itself?? 15:46:25 :D 15:46:29 -!- LogicNinja has left ##crawl-dev 15:49:05 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:52:35 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:52:50 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:57 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 15:53:15 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:28 -!- Watball has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:01:26 -!- Akien has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:03:17 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:47 -!- Tedronai has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:08:48 -!- Quazifuji__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:14:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:15:38 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:53 -!- Undo has quit [] 16:18:34 -!- ckyle has quit [Quit: ckyle] 16:22:36 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Houdoe] 16:27:33 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 252 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Does not affect those with rN (demons, undead, unliving, shadow dragons, death drakes, holies). 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I never seem to get updates anymore. 17:47:27 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-145-ge9bf03d (34) 17:48:10 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 17:48:10 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 17:48:27 -!- Ciph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:32 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:08 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 17:53:03 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:55:42 they're not currently happening. last I heard, someone was working on it, but everyone's a bit busy right now 17:56:35 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 17:57:51 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 17:59:41 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00:01 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:11 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:08:03 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:09:37 -!- Brannock has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:10:24 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: quit] 18:11:17 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:12:53 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:15:32 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:22:10 -!- debo is now known as qw 18:22:25 -!- qw is now known as debo 18:22:41 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:26:55 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:30:36 -!- DarthXaos has quit [] 18:30:45 -!- raskol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:31:13 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:36:20 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:01 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:42:23 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:44:41 -!- Pyridrym has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:03 thorn lotus (06P) | Spd: 8 (move: 160%) | HD: 11 | HP: 41-70 | AC/EV: 4/9 | 03plant, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 230 | Sp: v.thorns (3d15); v.thorns (3d15) | Sz: small | Int: plant. 18:45:03 %??Thorn lotus 18:45:46 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:46:05 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:14 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 18:49:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:51:11 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:52:11 -!- Ponderous_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:54:21 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:59:43 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:01:32 I drank a might potion but I don't see might as a current status. is this expected? 19:04:04 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:20 might colors your strength blue 19:04:28 instead of appearing on the status line 19:05:33 possibly it should have a status light too since the strength increase isn't really the thing it does 19:06:38 yeah, I think having a status light for those three potions would be reasonable 19:07:37 what if they made the screen all blue, like berserk makes it red? 19:08:31 oh yea 19:08:33 oops 19:08:34 I see it 19:08:45 I used a second might potion since I didn't see the status 19:08:53 ... 19:08:56 and still didn't see the status line 19:09:07 MORE MIGHTY THAN MIGHT 19:09:12 doublemight, the new finessezerk 19:10:09 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 19:13:50 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:15:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16:06 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:16:53 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:19:53 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 19:20:39 huh 19:20:57 is it intended behavior that enemies will use ranged weapons on your spectral weapon while in melee with it? 19:21:05 I guess maybe they're trying to shoot the player... need to test more 19:21:24 (enemies like centaurs/yaktaurs, not de master archers) 19:23:46 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:48 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:24:11 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:24:35 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:25:40 You probably know about it by now, but whenver I try to load cszo I only see: 19:25:42 The Websocket connection was closed. 19:25:42 Reload to try again. 19:25:49 Along with the chat box. 19:27:27 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27:47 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:45 Hmm, it only happens if I visit “http://crawl.s-z.org/“. But if I visit “http://crawl.s-z.org/#lobby” it works fine. 19:35:43 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:37:38 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 19:39:17 -!- zencephalon is now known as Jaeger__ 19:41:22 -!- evilmike has quit [] 19:43:34 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 19:43:52 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:28 -!- esper6 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:48:40 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:49:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:51:39 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:46 yeah, I get the same problem with cszo; it's tied to me being logged in 19:52:56 as in, if I'm not logged in, the lobby loads correctly 19:53:21 -!- Cerpin has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:53:24 and there's no good way to log out once this error occurs, either 19:54:36 !vault bh_autumn_forest_stairs 19:54:36 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des;hb=HEAD#l1997 19:55:04 that vault has big connection issues 19:55:11 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:55:14 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...] 19:58:49 would probably fix some of that if the 'square of trees' could be thinned out a bit to be open in all directions 20:01:45 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 20:01:52 -!- rmldy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:02:51 -!- home_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:03:05 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 20:03:28 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: Good night!] 20:06:49 -!- tksquared_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:06:54 -!- PleasingFungus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:41 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:09:48 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as PleasingFungus 20:10:14 -!- ttly_not_a_bot has quit [Client Quit] 20:12:48 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12:59 -!- Reign_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:15:18 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:15:42 -!- home has quit [Changing host] 20:16:08 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:16:39 Webtiles server restarted. 20:18:18 ASSMAN (L3 MuSk) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 20:18:19 Esekla (L3 FoSk) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 20:18:20 Datul (L25 DECj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Crypt:4) 20:18:21 Yurtisuma (L15 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:3) 20:18:22 fearitself (L15 MfSu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Orc:4) 20:18:24 Vegas (L21 CeHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:4) 20:18:27 sugary (L6 DrAE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:4) 20:18:33 tcjsavannah (L14 DrEE) (D:11) 20:18:35 legoman727 (L21 HECj) (Crypt:2) 20:18:40 van (L27 MfFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Hell) 20:18:43 shummie (L11 DECj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:1) 20:18:44 rip 20:18:46 mrclean (L16 GrGl) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Swamp:5) 20:18:48 <|amethyst> hm 20:19:01 -!- KurzedMetal1 is now known as KurzedMetal 20:20:32 |amethyst: all better? 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22:10:18 -!- Leper_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:11:12 to fuck over MuSus 22:11:36 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 22:12:11 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:12:20 -!- PleasingFungus_ is now known as PleasingFungus 22:12:27 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:31 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 22:12:48 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:13:58 that is actually convenient for Mu of sif because it means that you can macro . to aa 22:14:26 I agree it probably shouldn't work though 22:14:27 I use that for this Fo of sif, since there's both s and . 22:14:39 leave one as single turn, and the other as aa 22:14:44 yes, but then you get used to holding it down and then die when you hold it down too long and a centaur hits you 22:15:10 why is that different from holding a and how about not just holding down a key 22:16:16 also, las LRD's blast radius always been shown as though it goes through multiple walls? 22:17:13 yes 22:17:28 ah. it doesn't give the prompt for shooting at allies there, so it's not annoying just a little weird 22:17:50 -!- Jaeger__ has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:18:22 huh 22:18:34 firefox crashed, and now cao claims another game in process using my save 22:18:38 should I wait for it to timeout? 22:20:03 <|amethyst> I can kill it manually if you prefer 22:21:50 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:22:03 o 22:22:05 that'd be nice 22:22:13 <|amethyst> there you go 22:22:15 -!- S2im has quit [Client Quit] 22:22:27 ...yep, that worked. 22:22:29 Thanks! 22:22:30 :) 22:22:42 -!- zencephalon has quit [Client Quit] 22:22:48 -!- raskol_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:23:45 I think I found a bug; there's a lair vault here with no protection what-so-ever but a bunch of good loot. Damage clarity amulet, venom quarterstaff of blink, a book of Unlife, staff of conjuration, and enchanted demon whip. 22:24:05 !locate nivim 22:24:06 nivim was last seen on CAO (Nivim, L12 MuSk of Nemelex Xobeh). 22:24:28 Nivim: where was the loot? 22:24:45 In the rectangle I'm standing in. 22:24:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:24:50 that 2x3 rectangle? 22:24:51 If you're looking at me, that is. 22:24:53 Yes. 22:25:28 I'm guessing a vault went through the ruination code incorrectly. 22:25:31 that might just have been getting lucky with that weird "room of random items" that has been around forever 22:25:44 Um, let me show you my inventory. 22:25:48 <|amethyst> vaults only get ruined if they specifically ask for it 22:25:57 That amulet. 22:26:23 It's just this stuff is too good for just a random vault. 22:26:24 like, 6 random items including items of that quality is certainly plausible 22:26:35 Nivim: what does that mean 22:26:56 It means it needs to have some kind of cap in place if the game can just give you win like this? 22:27:01 I mean, I dislike the "unguarded room of items" vault too 22:27:08 but the quality could easily just be good luck 22:27:19 <|amethyst> Nivim: can you save? 22:27:21 is the game so easy that good luck has to be disallowed 22:27:27 Nivim: I don't see how it's any different from just finding an item or two 22:27:30 <|amethyst> Nivim: sec 22:27:35 rip luck 22:27:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27:58 <|amethyst> Nivim: okay 22:28:02 if it is what I think it is, then there could have been 30 unguarded items instead :P 22:28:03 <|amethyst> Nivim: got it 22:28:13 I forget the details on that thing though 22:28:31 rchandra: This stuff is really darn good; even with the whole "D:1-6" crystal plate or unrand thing this stuff seems good. 22:28:56 ok 22:29:05 &dump nivim 22:29:06 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Nivim/Nivim.txt 22:29:09 why do merfolk have +4 apt in polearms when no other race has more than +3 in a weapon apt? 22:29:09 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29:25 <|amethyst> the only vault is basic_altar 22:29:30 clearly hill orcs should get +4 axe apt 22:29:49 rchandra: Staff, staff, and amulet, mostly. 22:30:07 Also the demon whip, which I guess would be more valuable to another player. 22:30:15 |amethyst: iirc this thing isn't an actual vault, it is generated by code somewhere 22:30:16 It's like all the items here were gauranteed to be good. 22:30:18 so it wouldn't show up on the vault list 22:30:24 is it layout_city? 22:30:33 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30:34 Passed through lair code? 22:30:45 <|amethyst> yes, layout_city 22:30:51 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:05 that's the layout that can build random loot rooms then, yeah 22:31:29 Without also generating at least one decent guard? 22:31:36 The only thing near it was an adder. 22:31:40 it's a layout so yes 22:31:48 -!- Thalfon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:32:13 i assume it's the same thing that was really common a few versions ago 22:32:32 I found the code 22:32:41 apparently the items are actually higher quality if the room is small 22:33:07 Does it look super unlikely like those D:1-3 unrands? 22:33:14 probably is 22:33:20 dat/des/builder/layout.des, lines 474-514 22:33:22 oh i think layout_roguey was maybe the one that was common before actually 22:33:24 not sure 22:33:28 <|amethyst> elliptic: where's the relevant code? 22:34:07 |amethyst: ^ 22:35:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:35:41 <|amethyst> hm 22:35:52 My inexperience tells me this isn't the code that will tell me the chances of what happened to me though. 22:36:28 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 22:36:34 -!- home has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:36:37 <|amethyst> Nivim: you'd also have to know the chance of getting the layout, but otherwise it looks like it's mostly there 22:37:14 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:20 looks like probably 1% chance for a tiny room like that to be filled with treasure 22:38:39 I have no idea how many tiny rooms are typically generated by that layout though 22:38:50 -!- wheals has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39:07 <|amethyst> should layouts be placing treasure at all? 22:39:28 IMO not without a very good reason 22:40:23 i think it's only that and layout_roguey that do it just by virtue of being ancient and having always done it 22:40:43 and i'd agree that they probably shouldn't yeah 22:41:01 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:18 -!- ahahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:48:33 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:50:53 maybe tone it down to just 1 item at the most 22:54:53 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:56:53 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:59:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:01:17 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:03:54 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:05:23 -!- Pisano has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:07:17 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10:28 Playing in the tournament's been useful to recognize what changes have been improvements that absolutely should be merged into Crawl Light and what should be skipped or done differently 23:10:57 Good: New Vaults branch. I like the changes quite a bit. 23:11:35 Not so good: New Abyss. Old Abyss had serious problems, but I think I'm going to have to do an overhaul of my own. 23:11:59 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:16:41 -!- dubhan has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:17:05 -!- lumikant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:19:36 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:24:00 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:31 reaching brand on whips is gone? 23:24:47 yeah 23:24:51 can we add it back in as inherent to whips, as with polearms? 23:25:01 adjust demonwhip a little to balance 23:25:44 -!- zencephalon has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:25:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:52 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:28:17 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:28:27 uh 23:28:38 what I'm doing feels cheap 23:30:19 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:33:03 spriggan enchanters are such genius 23:34:02 -!- ebarrett has quit [Quit: I quit] 23:34:04 Lightli: what are you doing? 23:34:49 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 23:34:57 ogaz: I was closing the door in gastronok's face, waiting for him to open it if he didn't do so immediately, hitting him with my trident with the free turn, and then closing the door again 23:35:20 the solution is to either let gastronok blow up doors or to make him unable to open them at all 23:37:42 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:38:30 semi-related, I think more things should be able to blow up doors 23:38:38 -!- lumikant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:38:39 xtahua 23:38:46 are you really telling me a gold dragon can't figure out how to break through a door 23:39:23 the dragons live there. it's their home. would you break down doors at your own home. what would your wife tell you 23:39:27 now multiply wife by dragon 23:40:00 why would dragons have doors in their house that they can't open? 23:40:23 they have humanoid servants to do that kind of peasant labour 23:42:18 ogaz: the planning board 23:42:41 why don't they just eat the planning board 23:42:48 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:56 ??greater servant 23:42:57 greater servant[1/1]: Summons a temporary executioner, green death, blizzard demon, balrug, or cacodemon. Hostility chance is reduced (but never to 0) by invocations skill. Hostile if 1d(20 + Invocations * 3) <= 4 (e.g. 1/5 at 0 skill, 1/11 at 8 skill, 1/17 at 16 skill). 23:43:17 ??2 23:43:17 2[1/2]: A demon between a 3 and a 1. Summon Greater Demon summons these and 1s. Many of the demons in this category used to be 1s before 0.10. 23:43:22 ??2 [2] 23:43:22 2[2/2]: List: {shadow demon}, {green death}, {blizzard demon}, {balrug}, {cacodemon}, {hell beast}, {hellion}, {reaper}, {lorocyproca}, {tormentor} 23:43:38 <|amethyst> I guess our doors are made of rock 23:43:39 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 23:43:48 <|amethyst> oh, no 23:43:58 <|amethyst> the description says "a wooden door" 23:44:03 <|amethyst> pretty sure that would be more flammable than a tree 23:45:08 point is, gastronok shouldn't be trivializable in such a way 23:45:38 fr: raptors 23:45:43 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45:45 well this is a result of him being slow rather than anything to do with doors really 23:46:06 the thing is that normally you have to open the door yourself in order to continue attacking 23:46:21 here, he can open the door for you and have you not waste a turn doing so, making it even safer 23:47:01 you can do the same thing with normal-speed monsters that open doors just by casting haste 23:47:42 oh 23:51:24 I ran into another one of those small unvaults on the very next floor; it had a +8,9 randart freezing great mace of rF. This seems more common than that >1%. I will probably continue to insist this is a bug if I get it on subsequent exploration. 23:52:18 (Also correction; +9,8. Although I guess it doesn't matter much...) 23:52:33 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Quit: ₪₪₪-₪₪₪-₪₪-₪₪₪] 23:52:53 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 23:54:11 -!- DarthXaos has quit [] 23:55:58 -!- Arkaniad|Laptop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:59:02 -!- GummyVite has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:59:09 -!- Keanan1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]