00:02:32 wheals: IMO start organising the baddevteam clan 00:02:43 -!- MiracleKinacle has quit [Client Quit] 00:02:59 mm 00:03:04 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff 00:03:49 Grunt: you're the punmaster, i need your help for a name 00:04:03 What kind of a name are you looking for? 00:04:06 use mine: 00:04:15 "Once Upon a Slime in Spiders Nest" 00:05:50 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 00:05:53 i don't get the second aprt 00:06:09 part 00:06:12 i'm tired 00:06:13 once upon a slime in the depths? 00:06:29 It's supposed to be "Once Upon a Time in the West" (I spent all day yesterday thinking about movie puns for team names) 00:06:35 ebarrett: good 00:06:40 ah, never heard of 00:06:47 since I did consider "once upon a time in the depths" for myself briefly 00:07:07 I also support "Road Movie Double Header: Too-Lame Drac Zot and Banishing Point" 00:07:29 I don't get the drac reference 00:07:35 "Two-Lane Blacktop" 00:07:42 ok yeah I still don't get it :v 00:10:38 I might not use Mara and the Clustering Illusions 00:10:42 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-128-g9b6c994 (34) 00:10:56 if it finds a better home 00:11:08 Ruin lock 00:11:45 hm 00:14:19 wheals: "Wheals and the Removals" 00:14:30 is clearly the team name you should use 00:14:32 too easy :P 00:15:06 Snicker-snack 00:15:43 Surely there are some good vitriolic rants against the devteam you can sarcastically use 00:15:47 I always liked, "Eat, Quaff, and Beat Mara" 00:15:56 but there's no dev team insinuation there 00:16:38 !readall haiku 00:16:38 I Dream of Removing Djinn 00:16:47 mmm 00:16:47 nah that's lame 00:17:37 djinni with the light brown anti-magic 00:18:43 hmm 00:18:48 ??poetry[$ 00:18:48 poetry[15/15]: nerfing shit in crawl / fuck you gay stone soup dev team / summoning is dead 00:19:07 ??crawl players[$ 00:19:08 crawl players[9/9]: Sizzell> buttholecancer the Skirmisher (L6 FoMo), slain by buttholecancer's ghost on D:3, with 333 points after 3183 turns and 0:14:52. 00:19:12 ??crawl players[8 00:19:13 3237. 1XxDeaLWhiTThiSxX1 the Demon Slayer (L27 HODK of The Shining One), escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2014-03-26 17:43:17, with 23227047 points after 64637 turns and 7:17:53. 00:19:15 ??crawl players[7 00:19:16 http://dobrazupa.org/rcfiles/crawl-git/ScarletJ.rc 00:21:06 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:23:21 -!- ldlework has quit [Excess Flood] 00:28:40 elliptic: sentinel's mark and the removals 00:28:50 *Mark 00:33:05 boris and natasha and yak and quokka 00:37:05 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:49:43 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:49:43 the artist formerly known as grey rat 00:50:17 03Keskitalo02 07* 0.15-a0-129-g9ca3c7b: Remove references to searching from the init file (message muting). 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ca3c7bcacc7 00:51:14 vault wardens and ruined doors 00:52:56 Yesss, I made my 0.15 contribution already! Time to slack off for the rest of the development cycle. 00:53:41 antaeus' two-week feature freeze extravaganza 00:56:19 black mark and the removals 00:59:51 raiju had to cut me off 01:01:09 elite naga sharpshooter squad 01:01:30 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 01:01:42 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:02:05 GOLEM NO MORE 01:02:24 more like lame-ia 01:03:45 raiju puns have promise 01:03:53 -!- TerryDactyl has quit [] 01:03:58 yes 01:04:07 i couldn't think of a very good one though 01:04:09 gnomeore 01:04:21 raiju have to give up so easily 01:04:33 that's the same pun but I don't care 01:04:51 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:25 huh 01:05:29 raiju have to cut me off hehehe 01:05:36 does crawl have an effect that makes you take damage when you cast spells 01:05:42 djinnform 01:05:45 haha 01:05:51 ?/taint 01:05:51 Matching entries (2): crazy_yiuf[1] | fair[2] 01:05:56 ??fair[2 01:05:57 fair[2/3]: that's what's so great about Crawl: every time, you don't even have rage at the chance of the heavens to sustain you; you know, with a cold certainty something like that of a priest who has lost his faith in God, that your death was caused by none other than yourself, and that a better man could have avoided it. 01:05:58 ??warmonger 01:05:59 warmonger[1/1]: Oka/Trog Ds enemy class. High health, good weapon, longbow/crossbow. Has {sap magic} and {grand avatar}. 01:06:04 ??sap magic 01:06:04 sap magic[1/1]: A fixed-70%-chance line-of-fire hex from {warmonger}s. Worsens overall spell success with each spell cast, according to that spell's level. A single cast of fire storm (level 9) makes failure go from 3% to 11%, but a single bolt of fire (level 6) goes from 4% to 7%. 01:06:07 sap magic is failchance, right? 01:06:08 yeah 01:06:09 sap just lowers chances 01:06:38 huh that's... a weird effect 01:06:42 I didn't realize it worked that way 01:08:24 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:47 could be a cool effect to slap on some monster - the damage-on-cast thing (presumably proportionate to mana spent) 01:09:27 like the blood curse that succubi in the diablo 2 expansion gave (***nerd alert***) 01:09:54 barbs aimed at your magic glands 01:10:03 the worst barbs of all! 01:10:04 that's how mp works right 01:10:10 yeah totally 01:10:19 formicids have unusually large magic glands, stored in their thorax 01:10:19 ebarrett: do you have a good raiju pun 01:10:28 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:34 what is a raiju (I know what a raiju is) 01:10:39 but no 01:10:56 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:01 I don't think enough people have seen/will see raijus to make that a good team name idea tbh 01:11:07 where do they even show up 01:11:10 abyss 01:11:13 "raiju gotta be like that" is a good name, imho 01:12:06 -!- pisano has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:12:21 -!- Lprsti99___ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:12:41 -!- Fortescue has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:13:36 -!- Fortescue has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:40 -!- Akien has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16:05 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:17:03 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140404030202]] 01:17:18 -!- Eonwe7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17:42 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Laraso falls through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses.] 01:21:27 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:22:12 here's my dragon / so call me maybe 01:22:54 rofl 01:23:24 do you call a really ugly woman a "dragon" in english too 01:23:30 ...no 01:23:38 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:23:44 aw that makes it less funny for you than it is for me then 01:23:57 i guess, i didn't think it was all that good 01:24:06 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:08 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:09 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:28:09 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:32:22 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:33:40 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:34:39 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:36:34 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:39:06 ebarrett is "In Soviet Russia, dragon eats you." funny to you then? 01:40:30 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:40:34 -!- 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07:44:36 <|amethyst> But with the previous behaviour, Trog didn't give XP for killing phoenices, but Makhleb did 07:44:51 <|amethyst> s/XP/piety/ 07:52:18 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:52:31 -!- wat1 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:55:46 -!- RZX has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:55:47 -!- wat2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:56:00 -!- yalue has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:58:03 hi, building Crawl using Cygwin under Windows 7 and failing. What should I do if I see this: http://pastebin.com/iTXs1KDY ? 07:59:14 oh, actually that might be my fault 07:59:26 ah it is, forgive me 08:00:55 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:32 what do I do if I see this while building: libunix.cc:24:18: warning: term.h: No such file or directory 08:09:20 <|amethyst> Patashu: sounds like you're missing the ncurses development libraries 08:09:33 where to? 08:09:47 <|amethyst> I don't know anything about cygwin, sorry 08:11:59 <|amethyst> the Makefile is looking for them in /usr/include/ncursesw 08:12:21 hmm... 08:14:12 let's try apt-cyg 08:14:43 <|amethyst> in Debian the name of the package you need is libncursesw5-dev 08:14:47 <|amethyst> don't know about cygwin 08:14:56 <|amethyst> but make sure it is the 'w' (wide character support) version 08:15:43 If you run Cygwin Setup, it has both libncursesw-devel and libncursesw10. 08:16:06 10 seems a lot higher than 5, though ... 08:16:13 Don't know if that's a problem. 08:16:34 <|amethyst> no, it shouldn't 08:16:52 <|amethyst> just means the ABI has changed more often on cygwin than in Linux 08:21:47 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:23:04 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:23:46 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:06 Ingvold (L6 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 08:28:26 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:13 Ingvold (L6 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 08:29:56 Ingvold (L6 HOFi) ERROR in 'dbg-scan.cc' at line 716: Exit exit_sewer[152] didn't get generated. (Sewer) 08:33:13 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:54 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:37:42 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38:31 is this a bug or intentional? in ghost.cc ghost_demon::add_spells() if a player dies, fills slots 0 and 1 with spells from the first list, but doesn't have anything applicable from the third list, slots 3 and 4 will be filled with the same things slots 0 and 1 were because it starts over with 0 ignoring again 08:38:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:38:58 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:39:54 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:40:33 haha, it has code for if you know Teleport Self 08:40:48 it's partially shared by panlord generation code 08:40:55 except some of the panlord spells aren't even in the lists 08:40:58 so it's just, whatever 08:41:04 XD 08:41:05 this is specifically for player ghosts 08:41:14 if (_know_spell(SPELL_TELEPORT_SELF)) 08:41:14 spells[5] = SPELL_TELEPORT_SELF; 08:41:22 ooh 08:41:23 that part 08:41:37 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 08:42:30 anyway, the chance for a spell to be duplicated once or twice doesn't seem that bad 08:42:42 it does have an effect, the fact that it will cast it more often 08:43:27 oh, it's not just a chance 08:43:29 i see 08:43:46 it's not a chance, it's deterministic that it will re-pick the same spells again 08:44:49 hm, i guess you'd need to pass search_*_list an array of spells to ignore rather than just one 08:44:54 to prevent it from happening 08:44:56 or 08:45:03 pass it the index of the last spell to pass over 08:45:09 as in an index into that list of spells 08:45:17 'just start here, we checked everything before that' 08:45:27 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:45:49 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:45:51 yeah, that could work 08:46:25 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 08:47:57 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:24 i'll work on it 08:50:31 -!- dck has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:42 -!- MiracleKinacle has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:51:54 too bad i can't combine these functions, since they use sizeof 08:52:06 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:11 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:56:24 WeiSong (L23 DsGl) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Vaults:5) 08:59:59 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:54 -!- Mateji has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:03:06 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04:01 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:05:51 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:48 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:06 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:12:27 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:59 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:14:05 -!- rast- is now known as rast 09:15:43 -!- mummies-r-op has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:16:30 wait 09:16:32 I just realized 09:16:33 I have 09:16:34 C:\cygwin\usr\include\langinfo.h 09:16:41 yet 09:16:42 libunix.cc:43:22: warning: langinfo.h: No such file or directory 09:16:42 so 09:16:45 how do I get it to look there 09:16:47 or what do I do ?_? 09:19:43 I'm dead tired I'll ask again tomorrow. 09:20:06 thanks all, and I hope to get this working so I can mantis crap in the future :) 09:24:53 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:24:54 -!- Zerkmund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:54 -!- sildraith has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:29:07 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 09:31:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:33:31 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:35:11 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:27 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:46:30 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:51:50 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:53:10 -!- Vehumet has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:43 -!- Sabaki_|2 is now known as Sabaki 09:56:27 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:54 -!- johnstein has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:57:22 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:58:42 -!- Rotatell has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:59:08 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:59:48 -!- klarki has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:00:57 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:29 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 10:01:29 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 10:02:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:03:01 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:18 -!- johnstein has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:20 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:06:03 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-131-gf407f59: Remove a seemingly unintentional problem with the ghost spell code (Patashu). 10(7 minutes ago, 1 file, 30+ 54-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f407f59ebb03 10:06:12 -!- buki has quit [Quit: reboot] 10:08:36 !tell patashu fixed the ghost thing! 10:08:37 wheals: OK, I'll let patashu know. 10:10:05 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:42 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 10:17:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:19:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:50 -!- CKyle has quit [Client Quit] 10:21:54 -!- Rotatell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:36 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:25:37 -!- ldlework has quit [Excess Flood] 10:27:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28:35 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:28:52 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29:27 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:29:31 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:27 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:44 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:34:16 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:08 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:36:07 awesome. DDoS attacks on Ramnode on the day of the tourney 10:36:12 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:19 I think someone hates CBRO 10:36:29 that's the obvious rationale 10:38:28 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:38:59 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:44:36 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Iceweasel 28.0/20140319124030]] 10:47:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:37 -!- Adeon_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:51:55 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:52:37 !time 10:52:37 Time: Apr 11, 2014, 03:52:37 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament starts in 4 hours, 7 minutes and 22 seconds. 10:54:20 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:54:49 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 10:55:50 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:45 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:59:22 In the AE startbook...I'd really like to see Static Discharge replaced with Airstrike. Both thematically (adaptability) and practically; two types of damage instead of all Elec would be a stronger start (slightly; mostly helping with flying things and early rElec things, like Sky Beasts). 10:59:51 AE is already considered fairly weak, why nerf it further? 11:00:10 It was actually meant as a buff. o_o; 11:00:23 airstrike in starting book is not happening 11:00:49 mainly because it would be awful as wheals implied 11:01:06 ??book of air 11:01:07 book of air[1/1]: Shock, Swiftness, Repel Missiles, Flight, Static Discharge, Lightning Bolt 11:01:43 03elliptic02 07* 0.15-a0-132-g7bedf07: Reduce electrocution brand damage slightly. 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7bedf0784288 11:01:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:55 airstrike is good later on when you have high power, tornado to make things fly, or want the utility of being able to hit summoners and other monsters hiding behind others 11:02:23 -!- ldlework has quit [Excess Flood] 11:02:46 I feel like the smite targeting is always useful and having SOMETHING that can hit rElec stuff from your startbook fits the adaptability theme. 11:04:33 there are very few things with rElec early on, and all characters have access to melee, wands, etc 11:05:47 FE doesn't get a spell that ignores rF, VM doesn't get a spell that ignores rPois, and those resists are both more common than rElec 11:05:51 rip elec brand 11:05:52 <_< >_> 11:06:05 -!- ldlework has quit [Excess Flood] 11:06:32 Symmetry isn't a design goal. I believe it was you that said that. 11:06:48 I didn't say anything about symmetry 11:07:05 not today; but one of the design leads did. 11:07:29 well we are not a collective mind 11:08:04 At least I don't think I share a brain with Grunt... 11:08:14 I meant that I didn't say anything about symmetry just now, when talking about airstrike 11:08:21 I probably have used the word previously 11:09:28 Grunt: "rip elec brand"? 11:09:34 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff 11:09:38 I think it was you that brought it up when I was talking about changing Draconians around a bit so they were evenly powered. "Symmetry is not a design goal." and someone else said something about even avoiding symmetry (trying to make the bolts more different, besides just element, etc.) 11:09:48 it got nerfed!!! 11:10:06 20% less damage approximately 11:10:09 wasn't that a month or two ago? 11:10:17 it was 9 minutes ago 11:10:21 but close 11:10:32 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 11:10:32 no I meant draconian/symmetry chat 11:10:43 oh i may be missing part of this conversastion 11:11:16 ah, saw the commit mail only now 11:11:37 PleasingFungus yes; I have a bit of an idedic memory...it was Feb. 24th. 11:12:00 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:13:48 -!- Piginabag has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14:58 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:16:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:17:48 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:19:18 -!- notcluie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:19:47 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:20:10 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:10 -!- rast- is now known as rast 11:21:49 -!- fungee^ has quit [] 11:23:07 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 11:23:38 dpeg: I'm being facetious :) 11:23:50 when is grunt ever not?? 11:24:03 wheals: Huh? I'm 100% serious all the time. You should know this by now. 11:24:10 ??grunt 11:24:10 grunt[1/9]: I'm really looking forward to the point in 0.12 where someone first comes across a tornado ghost. 11:24:13 wheals: ^ 11:24:14 hrm, what does the S in SGrunt stand for 11:24:19 gammafunk: it stands for SGrunt. 11:24:24 We've been over this. 11:24:25 SGruntGrunt 11:24:30 Though I still do think Draconians need to be more evenly powered. A lot has been done to make sure all Demonspawn mutation trees are different but pretty equal; where Draconians are kind of just grandfathered in from pre-DCSS with little change. o_o; (Grays have been changed the most; they used to have a Stealth boost instead of elemental). 11:24:36 elliptic: where the S in that SGrunt stands for SGrunt as well... 11:25:24 does the G stand for GNU? 11:25:53 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:01 rchandra: no, the G is just a G in this case :) 11:26:02 Vehumet: possibly, but there is no need (or at least no desire, as far as I can tell) for a massive Draconian change. 11:29:39 Yea; it probably could be done with a tweak rather than a massive change; but it still should be done. 11:30:48 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:33:02 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:33:24 if anything were done to Dr I would think making them more similar (or removing colours) would make more sense 11:35:14 i have a massive desire for a draconian change 11:35:25 but that's not relevant to the player race :^) 11:36:08 -!- shobalk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:36:51 removing 1-2 colours lets each monster d race or class have its own colour, too 11:37:25 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:27 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:58 rchandra or are there very few Console colors or something? 11:38:25 You're misunderstanding. 11:38:42 rchandra is talking about having a 1:1 relationship between draconian monster classes & colours; e.g. all scorchers would be red, etc 11:39:06 I think? 11:39:11 yes 11:39:29 right now a draconian with a class might be the same colour as a classless one 11:39:47 ??rchandra[html 11:39:48 rchandra[4/7]: http://s-z.org/neil/tmp/crawl-glyphs-narrow.html 11:39:53 it'd also avoid silliness like this 11:39:57 mottled draconian knight (10d) | Spd: 10 | HD: 16 | HP: 103-122 | AC/EV: 12/12 | Dam: 27 | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, evil, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(42), 05fire, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 1656 | Sp: b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / b.lightning (3d21), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / b.lightning (3d21), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / b.lightning (3d21), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / b.quicksilver (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / b.quicksilver (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / b.quicksilver (3d20), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / cold breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / cold breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / cold breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / fire breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / fire breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / fire breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / poisonous cloud (3d10), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / poisonous cloud (3d10), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / poisonous cloud (3d10), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / steam ball (3d19), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / steam ball (3d19), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / steam ball (3d19), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour / sticky flame splash (3d6), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d23), invisibility, animate dead, throw icicle (3d25) / sticky flame splash (3d6), b.cold (3d25), b.lightning (3d21), vampiric draining, agony, throw icicle (3d25) / sticky flame splash (3d6), b.cold (3d25), throw icicle (3d25), haste, simulacrum, armour | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 11:39:57 %??Draconian knight 11:40:08 hahahaha 11:40:18 what on earth 11:40:20 ... wow 11:40:27 they have a lot of spellbooks 11:40:29 silly isn't it 11:40:34 they did 11:40:44 this seems like a bug 11:40:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:40:55 something with expanding draconian breath spell maybe 11:41:20 yeah, looks like 11:42:02 huh. there actually are the same number of draconian classes as colours right now, aren't there? shifter, annihilator, scorcher, monk, knight, high priest? 11:42:21 that's 6 11:42:26 caller 11:42:27 oh 11:42:32 thanks 11:42:35 fuck, I lost caller midway through that 11:42:38 red, green, black, mottled, purple, grey, white, pale 11:42:41 copy-paste error 11:42:51 wait, shit, there are eight draconian colours? 11:42:54 no 11:42:59 there are probably more 11:43:04 there are 9 colours 11:43:04 there are 7 11:43:06 what 11:43:07 moops 11:43:09 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:09 oops 11:43:16 well, at least I'm not alone in confusion 11:43:18 yellow? 11:43:20 yes 11:43:23 that's the one 11:43:29 hm 11:43:34 hm 11:43:45 9 + "draconian" 11:43:46 red white yellow black purple pale gray mottled green 11:43:48 plus 'not coloured', if we're concerned about that for glyph purposes (this is probably not a real concern) 11:44:10 sorry 11:44:15 i know why i thought it was 7 11:44:16 plain "draconian" means shapeshifter or vault monster at the moment, I believe 11:44:17 Choosing your colour as a Draconian 11:44:17 Dr isn't meant to be seven subspecies, but to introduce a challenge where the player must adapt to the colour. 11:44:21 red, mottled, purple, grey, pale, white, black, green, yellow. 11:44:41 haha 11:44:51 yeah so maybe there are too many colours. 11:44:51 i never bothered to count them 11:45:04 I'm not sure anyone would miss grey draconians 11:45:14 if they were to, tragically, vanish 11:45:14 if anything mottled, purple and yellow could get the axe 11:45:25 purple is very good 11:45:26 those are the annoying ones, yes. purple make cool enemies, though 11:45:48 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:46:06 it's either purple or grey 11:46:08 and what does mottled have bonus-wise? 11:46:13 rStickyFlame 11:46:15 and i'd wager grey would probably be best 11:46:16 I think 11:46:18 apts 11:46:20 I mean 11:46:20 *looks for what he wrote in the wiki* 11:46:26 I'd lose pale. it's strong but annoying 11:46:32 annoying? 11:46:33 yellow is the one that people have talked most about removing in the past, I think 11:46:35 yes 11:46:48 to play as or to fight? 11:46:48 yellow would be my top choice, yeah 11:46:49 mottled is just STICKY FLAME 24/7 GOTTA KILL YOUR SCROLLS 11:46:53 sure, pale and yellow. one good one bad 11:46:58 item destruction is a core part of crawl 11:47:07 it's such a core part of crawl 11:47:13 I stand by my anti-grey stance. they're so boring 11:47:15 there's a property that removes it 11:47:17 that's silly 11:47:21 and it's called conservation 11:47:28 PleasingFungus: such a core part that it is on people's list of things to remove in 0.15? 11:47:30 they're plain and they're good 11:47:31 s/removes/reduces 11:47:40 rchandra: practically removes 11:47:42 elliptic: there are many lists 11:47:46 and many people 11:47:48 yes 11:47:49 with many lists 11:47:56 and many closed threads about item destruction removal 11:48:00 PleasingFungus: only some of those people have commit access 11:48:01 because it's already on the To Do list 11:48:12 i'd keep yellow over grey, having a good breath weapon is nice 11:48:37 I think it might be simpler if enemy draconians didn't have to have the same colour set as player draconians 11:48:39 PleasingFungus, Bloax: if you choose not to believe that item destruction will be removed in 0.15, fine... but comments like this don't help anyone 11:48:39 Yeah, I don't like that grey has no breath 11:48:41 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:48:51 really 11:48:54 something that's interesting as an enemy isn't necessarily interesting as a player race, and vice/versa 11:49:02 elliptic: sorry, I wasn't trying to be hostile 11:49:40 Last chunk here: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:species:draconian [going for more varieties kind of started with dpeg saying something like; think about what you would do if the current varieties weren't there..] that part I don't necessarily stand by but the reasons for reform I do (uniform apt. total; no elemental affinity species-wide.) 11:49:42 just wasn't sure how much item destruction was "a thing that will definitely be in" versus "something some members of the dev team want, but haven't fully planned out yet". e.g. food reform, fighting reform, ranged reform 11:50:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 11:50:27 it's not really out of that stage until commits are made 11:50:42 either in a branch or in trunk 11:50:46 I don't think anything is really "definitely will be in 0.15" but I'm only aware of one dev who is actually opposed to removing item destruction 11:51:18 Sometime after the tournament ends and I push a few of my projects (to branches or otherwise) I'm probably going to start working on ranged combat. 11:51:26 elliptic: while you nerfed elec, would now be a good time to give Mf +3 instead of +4 polearms? 11:51:27 Grunt: we'll give you a good funeral 11:51:27 I have a basic idea right now as to how I'm going to go about doing that. 11:51:31 pushpushpush 11:51:38 elliptic: I thought I was already dead >_> 11:51:39 (rip) 11:51:39 Grunt: removed ranged combat, right? 11:51:44 * Grunt removes gammafunk. 11:51:51 in any case, if item destruction is being removed, then surely mottled flame isn't a problem anyway 11:51:52 rchandra: why? I don't mind them having +4 polearms personally 11:51:54 in terms of player annoyance 11:52:17 they're strong and could use a little weaker, and I find with +4 I really never consider other weapons 11:52:19 Grunt: Welcome.. Death! 11:52:26 Death has come for Bloax... 11:52:34 !apt mf 11:52:35 Mf: Fighting: 1, Short: 2, Long: 1, Axes: -2, Maces: -2, Polearms: 4!, Staves: -2, Slings: -2, Bows: -2, Xbows: -2, Throw: 0, Armour: -3*, Dodge: 3, Stealth: 2, Shields: 0, UC: 1!, Splcast: -1, Conj: -2, Hexes: 0, Charms: 1, Summ: 0, Nec: -2, Tloc: -2, Tmut: 3!, Fire: -3*, Ice: 1, Air: -2, Earth: -2, Poison: 1, Inv: 1, Evo: 1, Exp: 0, HP: 0, MP: 0 11:52:42 but Grunt we are all undead here 11:52:44 with HO I sometimes use nonaxes 11:52:46 I'd agree with rchandra here - +4 polearms is a little ridiculous 11:53:21 I don't necessarily disagree, but it is also one of Mf's main distinguishing characteristics 11:53:40 +3 is already pretty big, I just want it to be less overwhelming 11:53:47 While we are nerfing things, why not set all mummy apts. to -4; they are too powerful as it is. [/bad joke.] 11:53:51 maybe both Og and Mf shouldn't be shoehorned into just maces/polearms by having anything but their magnum opus have pretty average/bad aptitudes 11:54:01 !apt Og 11:54:01 Og: Fighting: 3!, Short: -4*, Long: -3*, Axes: -3*, Maces: 3!, Polearms: 0, Staves: -1, Slings: -3, Bows: -3, Xbows: -3, Throw: 1, Armour: -2, Dodge: -1, Stealth: -1, Shields: -1, UC: -1, Splcast: 1, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -3, Charms: -3, Summ: -3*, Nec: -3*, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3, Air: -3, Earth: -3*, Poison: -3*, Inv: 1, Evo: -1, Exp: 0, HP: 3!, MP: 0 11:54:05 !apt mi 11:54:06 Mi: Fighting: 2, Short: 1, Long: 2!, Axes: 2, Maces: 2, Polearms: 2, Staves: 2!, Slings: 1, Bows: 1, Xbows: 1, Throw: 0, Armour: 2!, Dodge: 1, Stealth: -1, Shields: 2!, UC: 1!, Splcast: -4, Conj: -3*, Hexes: -4*, Charms: -4*, Summ: -3*, Nec: -3*, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -2, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3, Air: -3, Earth: -2, Poison: -3*, Inv: 0, Evo: 0, Exp: -1, HP: 1, MP: -2* 11:54:08 well with Og I would only use GSC no matter what, the apt just affects difficulty 11:54:33 * no matter what assuming it's not like -5 maces +5 everything 11:54:43 yeah, Og weapon apts seem fine 11:54:43 rchandra it takes less exp to max dam with any polearm for a Mi 2/2 than it does for a Mf 1/4. 11:54:50 -!- AreBrandon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:50 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:57 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Client Quit] 11:56:07 anyway I wouldn't object if someone else wanted to lower Mf polearms apt to +3, I'm just not feeling very motivated to do it myself :) 11:56:22 03wheals02 07* 0.15-a0-133-g953de00: Remove hammers (ChrisOelmueller). 10(20 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=953de009a2c4 11:56:30 rip hammers 11:56:33 blasphemy 11:56:40 ... 11:56:43 haha 11:56:45 good commit name 11:57:00 ah good chrisoelmueller is taking ober kb's good commits 11:57:03 can we do the thing where we make commit messages actually useful again 11:57:04 chuckles were had 11:57:26 hilarious though it is every time 11:57:26 Yeah I have been an abuser of joke commit messages 11:57:27 they are in most cases 11:57:30 but I have to agree 11:57:33 it's annoying 11:57:41 ("Remove joke commit messages.") 11:57:50 ...at least when I do that I try not to be misleading :( 11:57:52 seems like it would make updating changelog easier at least (except other nice devs are usually the ones who do that anyway...) 11:58:31 did ##crawl explode yet 11:58:33 yep 11:58:50 it was pretty funny 11:59:17 %git :/Fo.*hields 11:59:17 07MarvinPA02 * 0.15-a0-107-g43eea48: Make skill training restrictions depend on carried instead of equipped items 10(2 days ago, 6 files, 23+ 153-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43eea485f30f 11:59:33 mm 11:59:34 good commit 11:59:54 oh nice I wondered why shields were different forever 11:59:57 %git :/Fo.*titudes 11:59:59 07jpeg02 * 0.8.0-a0-4571-gaf5d5ec: Don't allow viewing aptitudes etc. from tutorial submenu. 10(3 years, 3 months ago, 1 file, 49+ 50-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=af5d5ecc4125 12:00:39 it also fixes weird things like being able to train maces with a gsc as a spriggan, if i did it right 12:01:19 I like how that commit is 23+ 153- 12:02:22 yes there was a whole lot of dead code 12:02:22 a lot of which i think was never used at all for anything 12:02:46 like determining that you can't swap in an amulet of the gourmand in order to train whatever skill amulets of the gourmand let you train 12:03:02 food eating skill 12:03:09 food preservation (this is adom, right?) 12:03:48 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04:10 btw should that hammer commit be cherry-picked to 0.14? IMO it is a pretty bad bug 12:05:00 gammafunk: did you see that i made a doxygen comment! did i do it right? 12:05:08 in the ghost commit 12:05:15 wheals: yeah, I saw, thanks! 12:05:53 The first sentence is a brief descript, after ". " goes into detailed descript fyi 12:06:01 not that we really generate the docs yet 12:06:57 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff 12:12:22 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12:57 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:18 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:18:55 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:56 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:22:00 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-133-g953de00 (34) 12:22:11 -!- scummos| has quit [Client Quit] 12:22:55 -!- scummos__ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:23:11 You know; there's no reason why there couldn't be more variety in player Dr than there is in Zot Draconians is there? [Flavor it as only certain subraces support Zot or whatever.] 12:24:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:25:31 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:23 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 12:28:25 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:26 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:43 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 12:33:24 I mean that's why there are hill and cave orcs. 12:37:03 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:37:29 Vehumet: I assume you're bcadren. 12:39:07 What clued you in? 12:39:48 wheals, gammafunk: when do we get more food vaults btw <_< 12:39:48 gammafunk: reading the logs, I could tell by the tone (but I couldn't see where he changed his nick) 12:40:07 ??vault ideas 12:40:07 I don't have a page labeled vault_ideas in my learndb. 12:40:19 food vault ideas are hard! 12:40:23 Just pick random vaults and stick food in them. 12:40:27 : ) 12:40:32 !send reaverb eggplants 12:40:33 reaverb: that was a rhetorical question :p 12:40:33 Sending eggplants to reaverb. 12:40:47 Food domes, food halls, food door vault. 12:41:01 sea of food 12:41:03 river food 12:41:09 food cycle 12:41:10 food trove 12:41:17 food boxes 12:41:24 Grunt: food vaults? you'd have to ask the dev team 12:41:27 no, slaughterfood 12:41:37 box food, then! 12:42:01 food pond 12:42:09 evil food 12:42:12 spriggan food 12:42:12 I finally have an idea for new water palace, so that's my next vault thing anyhow 12:42:19 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:42:20 maybe try a tomb subvault after that 12:42:42 food_1 12:42:44 I'll probably land tomb patch shortly after the tournament ends (and push a couple of other side projects of mine to branches). 12:42:51 tomb food vaults 12:42:51 food_2, food_3 12:42:51 thingy_food 12:43:01 filled with delicious edible mummies 12:43:03 minmay_three_foods 12:43:04 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:07 ...this is making me hungry; time for lunch <_< 12:43:13 Yeah, hopefully I can finish water palace this weekend and start on tomb a bit, so it might even be ready before you merge 12:43:22 yeah vaults always make me hungry 12:43:30 Just need to make sure that Sage hates my new water palace as well 12:43:31 I am hungry for victory. 12:43:31 wheals, did you see tomb patch? If you want to work on some more vaults it could use subvaults. 12:43:42 * reaverb deduces Grunt must live in the mid-US from his lunch time. 12:43:43 (Not right away, of course; you have a tournament to play in!!) 12:43:56 actually grunt lives in Nicaragua. 12:43:56 reaverb: I'm Canadian, for the record. :b 12:44:02 please don't contradict me 12:44:02 * gammafunk decides reaverb is poor at predicting geographical location 12:44:04 it's rude 12:44:05 eh? 12:44:28 wheals: the latest tomb patch is http://sprunge.us/NVGM for the record 12:44:32 PleasingFungus: i'm sure lots of canadians live in nicaragua 12:44:42 hm 12:44:44 plausible 12:44:52 good save. 12:45:04 what you don't understand is that Grunt is just a computer program 12:45:12 Grunt: Oh, guess I should of said "Mid-American Continent" 12:45:12 he's not real 12:45:16 death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 10 | HP: 49-83 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1016 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 12:45:16 %??death cob 12:45:45 unripe death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 1 | HP: 4-9 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(4), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 5 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 12:45:45 %??death cob hd:1 name:unripe n_adj 12:46:16 How much objection would there be to removing death cobs, for futures referrance? 12:46:20 (bad idea or what) 12:46:28 why would you remove death cobs 12:46:50 PleasingFungus: Imagine death cobs did not exist. Now Imagine somebody trying to convince you to add them to the game. 12:46:58 they're funny 12:47:04 I guess Yred could use a replacement. 12:47:15 well, is that person linley 12:47:16 PleasingFungus: Then we can add a death cob unique, like Wiglaf. 12:47:23 haha 12:47:27 He, 12:47:54 *I guess Yred would need a replacement ally gift if death cobs are removed. 12:48:11 They're like toenail golems, a long-standing crawl joke 12:48:19 -!- Zicher has quit [Client Quit] 12:48:33 Hence the suggested unique! 12:48:43 We have enough death cobs I think 12:49:29 I'd remove toenail golems long before I removed death cobs, given that death cobs at least have decent gameplay 12:49:43 rip golems 12:49:50 There is a strong toenail golem suppoter in our midst 12:49:54 *supporter 12:50:17 i'd also remove toenail golems before i removed death cobs and also i'd not remove toenail golems 12:50:25 haha 12:50:35 Ok, lots of objection, good to know. 12:50:36 I suggest Yred get Jiangshi instead of death cobs regardless, because a god giving a zot monster is weird. 12:50:48 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:51:18 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:51:26 jiangshi are much stronger than death cobs. 12:51:26 MarvinPA: I forget, did you add toenail golems to orbrun spawns or remove them from orbrun spawns 12:51:45 jiangshi (08V) | Spd: 18 (move: 60%) | HD: 10 | HP: 49-80 | AC/EV: 10/10 | Dam: 2705(vampiric), 2705(vampiric) | 07undead, fighter, evil, sense invisible | Res: 06magic(80), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1070 | Sz: Medium | Int: animal. 12:51:45 %??jiangshi 12:51:59 i don't think anyone's touched pan spawns recently? 12:52:07 aside from adding ds of course 12:52:18 i added them (accidentally, by making pan spawns appear on the orb run) 12:52:27 death cob (08%) | Spd: 25 | HD: 10 | HP: 49-83 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Dam: 20 | 07undead, 10doors, evil | Res: 06magic(40), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1016 | Sz: tiny | Int: normal. 12:52:27 %??death cob 12:52:32 they were pan spawns? 12:52:39 did orb run have its own spawn list before? 12:52:46 yes, but they never spawn in pan because pan spawns don't spawn in pan 12:52:46 PleasingFungus true; they are the only two 'fast undead' though. 12:52:52 heh 12:52:55 or rather they do but not very often 12:52:56 not even in vaults? 12:53:01 %git f3c84e061e4 12:53:01 07MarvinPA02 * 0.13-a0-1088-gf3c84e0: Adjust orb run spawns 10(11 months ago, 1 file, 5+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f3c84e061e42 12:53:12 oh, i see 12:53:27 ...did it not have panlords before? 12:53:34 Someone should really remove the room full of Spriggan Bakers from linesprint. Either put in actual forest monsters or set it back to being a second crypt room. 12:53:44 each pan floor gets its own monster list, the actual mon-pick pan list is only used for 1/40 pan monsters or something like that 12:53:54 pan lords are a seperate check to that bit 12:55:01 PleasingFungus actually I think they are pretty equal; 20 Dam Spd 25 is less than than 27, 27 spd 18; but Cobs also move faster... 12:55:27 in practice, the increased damage matters much more. 12:55:32 plus the vamp. 12:56:10 !fight 20 death cob; the lernaean hydra v 20 jiangshi; the lernaean hydra 12:56:16 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 12:56:43 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:57:12 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:57:20 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:05 -!- Weeksy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:58:33 neither of those use equips, right? 12:59:34 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:00:30 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01:40 roughly equal v Royal jelly. (with 20 of them, they consistantly kill TRJ and either die to her spawns or have 2-5 left after finishing them off); with 15 they lose. 13:01:42 -!- ebarrett has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:02:15 tourney started already, huh? 13:02:24 no! 13:02:26 !time 13:02:26 Time: Apr 11, 2014, 06:02:26 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament starts in 1 hour, 57 minutes and 33 seconds. 13:02:36 had a call-out right before I was going to install 0.14 on CDO... 13:02:39 oh, good 13:02:50 kid to bed, then I'll try to continue ;) 13:02:50 -!- Captainhorfe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:07:47 I'm heading out right now for an hour or two, will hopefully be back before tourney start 13:08:26 if not it should start fine without me though, except that I'll need to add CDO 0.14 milestones/logfile to the scripts if they exist by then 13:08:49 Hmm, may I add removing Twisted Resurrection to the 0.15 plan? There was an agreement to do that on IRC a while back. 13:08:51 but if something goes wrong with the scripts then tell people not to panic :P 13:09:05 -!- Zermako has quit [] 13:09:06 -!- mongor has quit [Quit: mongor] 13:09:21 reaverb: I sent a message to crd already 13:09:53 Basil: Ok, I guess that means I won't be forgotten so I don't have to put it in. 13:10:02 s/I/it/ 13:10:30 (although technically that patten would hit the first "I") 13:16:07 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16:55 Honestly; I'm usually for fixing things over cutting them (especially with a history of a lot of work going into it); but there are too many pure Necro spells at it is (there are more Conjuration than Necro, but Necro has the most -pure- spells by a long shot and they do a lot more stuff than pure -anything else)...and both Simulacra and Death Channel beat the crap out of twisted. I'm all for it going actually. 13:17:05 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:18:21 -!- CSDCScripter has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19:01 Besides; XXX also creates Abominations and is much less annoying. 13:19:24 -!- BanquosGhost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:19:57 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19:58 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:15 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:20:18 it appears that "language" is not documented in options_guide, just in the default rcfile 13:20:18 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:21:03 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:03 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 13:21:24 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 13:21:44 * geekosaur makes wild guess as to "Vehumet", confirms via backscroll... 13:22:19 heh 13:23:02 known to have proposed 26 different gods under the letter B 13:23:07 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:27 BEES FOR THE B GOD 13:23:29 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:23:32 26 gods? I didn't propose 26 gods. 13:23:35 fr bee god 13:24:06 Am I really that identifiable? 13:24:54 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:25:34 to me you are. can't really speak for others 13:25:36 yes 13:26:30 I wonder how many people can be identifiable just by their style. 13:26:35 What? ...why? 13:26:40 We should have a "use a differant IRC nick day" 13:27:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:28:28 Is it because I change my nick so much? 13:29:13 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:14 Vehumet: Streams of distinctive design ideas make you a little obvious. 13:29:32 most people have a characteristic way of phrasing things, and often ways of writing (e.g. capitalization patterns); also, yes, that 13:29:34 well theres other obvious ways to find out who someone is 13:30:08 Yeah, a whois can identify somebody, although who does a whois on people just in case they change their nick? 13:30:11 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:30:21 I think the most identifiable person ever is impgrinder 13:30:36 !whois Vehumet 13:30:45 not a bot command, an irc command 13:30:48 Also, what geekosaur said. I use the word "Also" a lot, for instance. 13:30:52 Ahh. 13:30:54 the most identifiable was vimpulse 13:31:14 reaverb distinctive mean bad? I feel like I'm being insulted. 13:31:29 Vehumet: I'm not trying to insult you. 13:31:30 no, it means distinctive. readily evident and identifiable 13:31:45 -!- shobalk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:31:46 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:31:58 whether it's good or bad is at least one level farther in (content, as opposed to form) 13:31:59 People can recognize eachother on anonymous image boards. 13:32:26 one level farther in? 13:32:32 So unless you're actively trying to not write like you usually write then you'll be recognizable. 13:32:58 so mostly I recognized you not so much by the content, but just by what the writing looks like 13:33:03 I remember Snowden asked not to be quoted at length specifically over this issue. 13:33:06 before looking at what it *says* 13:33:48 think syntax vs. semantics 13:34:23 geekosaur living up to his name 13:34:40 one line at a time 13:34:43 I have to imagine I'm pretty identifiable too, and not just because of that :p 13:34:51 Bloax: How is he living up to the "osaur" part? 13:35:14 geekosaur: Also no caps at the beginning of the sentance. 13:35:31 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:35:37 yes, although I'm not the only person who skips caps in non-formal writing 13:35:45 I'm extremely identifiable through my language use. 13:35:47 a lot of people don't use the initial caps online. Second sentence is something else, though 13:35:49 You mean I think a lot more about things before saying anything and it's almost offputting because of the amount of stuff I write? o_o; 13:35:56 (especially since formal writing is what I've been doing all day at work, so I'm all formaled out >.>) 13:36:10 It's pretty simple if you just notice a little thing - something just about nobody but me uses. 13:36:18 I... are you digging to try to find offense? 13:36:32 people have recognizeable styles. this is neither positive nor negative 13:36:48 If anything it says that people are people. 13:37:06 you can recognize a *lot* of people fairly easily if you can collect enough of their writing 13:37:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:37:44 the only reason it comes up with respect to you is that you switch nicks a lot and so it is a helpful way to recognize "oh yeah that person" 13:38:05 >switching nicks ever 13:38:17 (there is someone else in another channel I frequent who has also been switching nicks a lot of late, and again their writing style is distinctive enough that it's easy to recognize them) 13:38:30 i hope you like being annoying to anyone who cares about you 13:38:37 because that's exactly what that does 13:38:43 nobody else cares 13:38:43 though it also helps when there's only 1-2 people switching 13:39:04 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:40:21 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:42:59 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:44:19 I *know* that I have a bunch of writing "tics" that are quite obvious if I extract out just the stuff I write in IRC. again, not good, not bad, just easily noticeable 13:45:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:45:44 woo. guy in my irc room modified the relay bot to tweet when watched players pick up runes or the orb and helpfully adds the ^%#$watch webtiles URL 13:45:47 https://twitter.com/octotrog/status/454691182057381888 13:47:03 ._. 13:48:29 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:06 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51:12 octotrog 13:52:09 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:52:43 No body suspects a thing. 13:52:57 So is countertraining going? Was that decided? 13:53:22 Vehumet: ask bh; no decision IIRc 13:53:59 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 13:55:22 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 13:56:07 ??bh 13:56:08 bh[1/4]: When it comes to stupid ideas, I'm your man. 13:56:17 ...uhh? 13:56:46 :p 13:58:33 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:00:58 -!- Vehumet is now known as Kikubaaqudha 14:01:01 I think there are too many pure Necro spells...and Pain, Agony and Control Undead should go to [Necro/Hexes]; and Sublimation and Twisted should go to [Necro/Transmutations]. 14:01:56 !time 14:01:56 Time: Apr 11, 2014, 07:01:56 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament starts in 58 minutes and 3 seconds. 14:02:11 Agony and Control Undead would be pretty bad if they were dual-school 14:03:32 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.13.2-0-g42362f2 (34) 14:03:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:03:59 (you can do it!) 14:05:14 |amethyst: btw, building mingw on the old server still works without any trouble 14:05:42 |amethyst: should i try to make 0.14 builds? 14:05:49 It would increase access by Hexes users...and make it so you can't get SO powerful with a single school (primary thought); you can't really do that with any other school. 14:06:15 that doesn't actually increase access notably, it reduces it 14:06:23 sublimation gets a lot worse dual-schooled as well 14:06:38 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.15-a0-133-g953de00 (34) 14:07:12 It's intended as a Necro-nerf, ok? I don't like how you can access so much with that single school, where no other single school has half as many pure spells. 14:08:16 Napkin, about the only 0.14 builds that I think we need right now are the Debian builds (which I would do myself, but I gather there's some kind of infrastructure in place already to do that / sign them / put them in the cdo Debian repository)? 14:08:17 is necro in dire need of a nerf 14:08:33 Napkin: also thank you for working so hard to get 0.14 online :) 14:08:34 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:57 -!- Blazinghand|Work is now known as Blazinghand 14:09:16 I don't see why necro needs a nerf 14:10:01 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:09 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 14:12:33 -!- ebarrett has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:47 -!- ebarrett has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:06 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 14:14:09 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:14:18 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:14:29 -!- ebarrett has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:38 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:08 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:15:35 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:44 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:17:46 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 14:18:15 Is there a particualar reason ?rebrand weapon always makes unbranded weapons vorpal besides resistance to change? 14:18:26 One scroll doing 3 differant things is a bit much for me. 14:18:33 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:18:42 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:30 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:21:50 3?? 14:21:50 The strongest of the {common demon}s: {sun demon}, {soul eater}, {ice devil}, {smoke demon}, {neqoxec}, {ynoxinul}, {chaos spawn}. 14:21:58 same reason ?ea on an appropriate hide creates armour without enchanting it? one to boost its "base state", more to raise it within that state 14:22:06 wheals?? 14:22:06 then can we remove it? 14:22:07 <_< 14:22:09 that's only two things 14:22:55 -!- Vizer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:22 -!- tigertrap has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:24:14 geekosaur: Hmm, I wonder if just dropping dragon armors from dragons would work? 14:24:24 no 14:24:38 that's the main source..... 14:25:02 wheals: As in, also removing dragon hides. 14:25:08 yes 14:25:11 oh, i see 14:25:41 I can see no, as a way to make sure early characters don't get lucky with a hide, but it could also be a good removal since normally you just run off to enchant it. 14:25:44 conversely if you want to make vorpal just another brand then possibly the strengths of the various brands need more tweaking 14:26:18 geekosaur: Vorpal is already an option for rebranding. 14:26:27 As in, something the weapon can be rebranded to. 14:26:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:26:53 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff (34) 14:26:58 right, but if we make it so the first brand can be any of them then they might need more normalization relative to each other 14:27:15 since I think right now vorpal is a bit weaker than the others still 14:27:26 (not as much as it used to be, but) 14:27:33 Napkin: thanks! 14:27:54 Hooray! 14:28:47 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 14:29:28 Thank you Napkin! 14:29:40 i kinda assumed it worked the way it did so you could still get velocity on launchers easily 14:30:16 -!- Amnesiac has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:30:19 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:30:38 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:25 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:52 not even close to being finished ;) 14:32:53 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:33:05 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:19 elliptic: logfiles and milestones at the usual place 14:33:23 * reaverb being singing a song of support for Napkin. 14:33:39 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33:41 anyone remember the patches required for gretell about the new milestones? 14:33:50 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:50 reaverb ;-) 14:34:31 -!- Staplegun has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:34:36 Napkin: Is Gretell just Sequell with differant functionality enabled or an entirely differant bot? 14:34:44 -!- ciph has quit [Quit: 欢迎TRPGer下载mIRC for TRPG特别(测试)版~请输入!get mirc,老用户升级包请!get mircupdate] 14:34:50 |amethyst would be best to ask about patches... 14:34:52 entirely different at this point 14:35:03 maybe they were based on the same, quite different nowadays already 14:36:10 well, someone will remember the patches once stuff isn't announced or announced too often ;) 14:36:27 Napkin: I think you just have to add some lines to "my @logfiles" and "my @stonefiles" 14:36:36 https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/commit/009ab802815eb6b0325d816a47691f4e7111fa95 14:36:44 those i added, of course, elliptic 14:36:51 was there ever a time with only one bot? I remember there being Henzell and Gretell only, but never just one 14:37:02 Napkin: hm, and gretell still isn't reporting stuff? 14:37:04 no, it was something about different milestones 14:37:06 hm 14:37:08 ??sizzell 14:37:08 sizzell[1/2]: Like Gretell, except that |amethyst is typing everything himself. Announces games and upgrades on crawl.s-z.org ({CSZO}). Uses "%" for its commands ("%dump" etc), but does not do nick mapping. 14:37:17 ??sizzell[2 14:37:17 sizzell[2/2]: Source at https://github.com/neilmoore/sizzell 14:37:20 let's see 14:37:33 Err that link is probably wrong. oops. 14:37:40 let me do something on qwqw and see if gretell reports it 14:37:42 My link, grunt's seems fine. 14:37:59 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:12 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-134-gcf47855: Remind online trunk players about the tournament. 10(3 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf4785587213 14:38:14 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:23 Napkin: qwqw (L1 FoFi) reached level 15 of the Dungeon. (D:15) 14:38:29 Napkin: seems to be working 14:38:40 Ohh, Grunt has "Handle 0.14" 14:38:50 Err, nevermind, if it's working. 14:38:53 hey dpeg 14:39:00 Hallo! 14:39:05 0.14 up in time, i think 14:39:06 Napkin: no longer ill? 14:39:10 wonderful! 14:39:18 well, feeling better at least :) 14:39:34 Napkin: thanks for setting things up, it looks good as far as I can see :) 14:39:54 tourney stats ok, too? 14:40:05 !tell greensnark CDO now has 0.14, so Sequell should be told about them 14:40:06 elliptic: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 14:40:30 !tell greensnark files at the usual http places 14:40:30 Napkin: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 14:40:30 Napkin: yeah, I checked that all the files that the tourney scripts look at are accessible 14:40:40 awesome! 14:40:47 Feierabend finally! 14:40:54 Fo corpses are ? in stable? 14:41:06 Sequell won't know about the games until greensnark gets a chance to add things there, but that's okay 14:41:45 Napkin: thanks, much appreciated 14:42:04 glad i managed in time 14:42:33 next i need to find a mingw compiler for trunk builds 14:43:10 also, wow, rob is on CDO playing sprint?? he hasn't been around in a long time 14:43:14 seems the debian package won't take the headers/libs I used to provide.. 14:43:18 Napkin: possibly mingw-w64? 14:44:06 not sure.. 32bit is safe play.. works on 64bit, too - while the opposite is not the case 14:44:52 -w64 includes a 32-bit environment (and that may be more up to date than the one that mingw32 uses). 14:45:27 will a executable compiled with mingw-w64 work on 32bit windows? 14:45:36 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:45:54 As long as you set CROSSHOST correctly, yes. 14:46:16 not sure crawl's makefile magic can do that 14:46:22 i'll give it a try 14:46:26 It does! 14:46:42 elliptic: whoa!!! 14:46:56 nice make -j2 -C source CROSSHOST=i586-mingw32msvc CHOWN=true CHMOD=true USE_MERGE_BASE="${PRIMARY_BRANCH_REMOTE}" WIZARD=y DESTDIR=${INSTALLDIR} install 14:46:59 elliptic: thanks for mentioning rob playing! 14:47:02 that's what i currently use 14:47:14 -!- Ciph is now known as ciph 14:47:17 Napkin: the release.txt docs suggest CROSSHOST=i686-w64-mingw32 14:47:30 lol 14:47:35 well, i'll try 14:47:48 but i probably need new libraries and headers then, too 14:48:03 Let's find out... 14:48:13 SDL compiled with i686-w64-mingw32 is probably not too easy to find 14:48:30 Grunt, later 14:48:40 Take your time :) 14:48:53 won't be looking into it now - and you should enjoy the tourney, too :) 14:49:10 !tell greensnark lg manual probably shouldn't mention CSN 14:49:11 wheals: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 14:49:12 mmm, go rob 14:50:23 !lg rob 14:50:24 2249. rob the Skirmisher (L1 HuAK of Lugonu), mangled by a ynoxinul on Abyss:1 on 2013-08-02 01:57:04, with 20 points after 44 turns and 0:00:45. 14:50:28 |amethyst: hm, when I select 0.14 on CSZO DGL it says " Game selected: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.14 (beta)" 14:50:33 * reaverb wonder if he should invite rob to join a clan. 14:51:10 reaverb: he was an extremely good player (and dev!) back in the day 14:51:30 dpeg: Oh wow, guess I should. 14:51:38 !watch rob 14:51:38 No current CAO game for rob. 14:51:42 &watch rob 14:51:43 @watch rob 14:51:50 ^rc hyperrchandra 0.14 14:51:50 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-0.14/hyperrchandra.rc 14:51:55 You'll need to log onto cdo console to watch. 14:51:56 @watch rob 14:52:05 Grunt Hmm, Ok. 14:52:28 2249. rob the Skirmisher (L1 HuAK of Lugonu), mangled by a ynoxinul on Abyss:1 on 2013-08-02 01:57:04, with 20 points after 44 turns and 0:00:45. 14:52:31 is he still active 14:52:32 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 14:52:36 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:52:48 -!- tabstorm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:52:49 Bloax: Just spotted. 14:53:00 Bloax: no, that's why we are excited... he hasn't really been around since 0.7 14:53:07 Bloax: no, retired a long time ago (3 years or so?) 14:53:17 !lg rob s=src 14:53:18 2249 games for rob: 1225x cdo, 1021x cao, 2x rhf, cszo 14:54:18 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:54:20 %git 9a0ee060 14:54:21 07by02 * 0.8.0-a0-1335-g9a0ee06: Correct missile brand determination for damage boost. (#1993) 10(3 years, 7 months ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a0ee0605200 14:54:26 That seems to be his last commit. 14:54:31 good fo sprint i tech 14:54:50 so long 14:54:51 It's always great to see old faces. 14:54:54 Is Keskitalo still around? 14:55:03 (fun fact: we worked at the same university for several years) 14:55:03 He is; just very rarely paying attention here :) 14:55:04 he made a commit last night 14:55:07 ogaz: yes 14:55:14 %git :/options 14:55:14 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14.0-4-g8e304c5: Update the options guide 10(27 hours ago, 2 files, 50+ 64-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8e304c55a19d 14:55:16 much less active than before, but yes 14:55:16 hm 14:55:19 %git 9ca3c7b 14:55:19 07Keskitalo02 * 0.15-a0-129-g9ca3c7b: Remove references to searching from the init file (message muting). 10(14 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ca3c7bcacc7 14:55:24 ah 14:55:35 cool 14:55:36 Oh wait, rob == Kekitalo? 14:55:38 no 14:55:49 no, by == rob 14:56:13 Oh, ogaz turned the converstaion to Kekitalo, sorry. 14:56:43 -!- Hisar has quit [Client Quit] 14:56:59 rip rob 14:57:28 Hmm, I can see rob dying, but I can't talk to him like in Webtiles. (I imagine this would have alreaedy happened if somebody could) 14:57:29 crawl-inotify says this: rob went away, unmonitoring. 14:57:33 reaverb: press m 14:57:46 I said "Guten Abend" to him :) 15:01:17 rob played a main game, died with zero points. 15:01:38 I'm trying to register on CDO so I can talk but the password screen won't let me type. 15:01:39 sometimes Game Design Discussion on the forum has some insights, and sometimes it's bordering on lunacy :) 15:01:48 reaverb: you can! The password just doesn't show up. 15:01:51 dpeg: Exactly like IRC! 15:02:05 reaverb: yes, but I fled from ##crawl in disgust! 15:02:18 Grunt: Wow. 15:02:43 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:59 rob 15:02:59 is 15:03:02 tournamenting 15:03:04 !!!!!!!!! 15:03:09 !time 15:03:10 Time: Apr 11, 2014, 08:03:10 PM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament ends in 15 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes and 49 seconds. 15:03:23 Grunt: nice 15:03:23 whoops 15:03:30 Grunt: wonderful 15:03:33 -!- TAS-2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:03:39 Is It Happening tm 15:03:52 gdd is the real monster 15:03:59 Grunt: I messaged rob with "Hi" 15:04:05 * Grunt hi-des. 15:04:09 Grunt: also, let him play -- he is a speedrunner 15:04:24 -!- yalue has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04:30 reaverb: shh! 15:04:35 poor rob 15:04:43 Grunt: Oh, oops. 15:05:05 Guess I'll quiet Oh. 15:05:05 dpeg: is he another soul in the mental asylum 15:05:16 interesting 15:05:20 _Enter note: oh, I'm fast 15:05:45 (I didn't realize how awkward console messaging is) 15:06:14 it is an art 15:06:14 reaverb: huh? :) 15:06:50 Grunt: <3 15:06:59 dpeg: I messaged rob, and I didn't realize console chat meant hijacking the message log. I guess it makes sense, given that webtiles chat wouldn't work. 15:07:33 Wait, am I interupting somebody everytime I webtiles chat a console player? O_O 15:07:37 the art of messaging not for now but for posterity 15:07:55 if you webtiles chat a console player you interrupt nobody 15:07:59 since they never see it 15:08:05 wheals: Ok, good. 15:08:33 (Normally I'm talking to soembody else in the room, which is why I never noticed) 15:13:27 -!- ciph has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:15:40 Haven't been active hear in forever, but I just want to throw out: great job dpeg and everyone else for continuing to improve the game. I've managed to keep up on the changelogs and I'm always impressed by what I see. 15:18:48 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:18:49 Twinge: Many thanks! But times have changed: better to direct gratitude to those who have done the work, Grunt, gammafunk, |amethyst, elliptic, MarvinPA, Basil, SamB, wheals... 15:19:01 dpeg does work too!!! 15:19:04 Twinge: I am mostly an elderly bystander these days :) 15:19:28 Haha, fair enough =) 15:19:32 Telling people how we broke things back in the day, unable to comprehend why the whippersnappers have to find new ways to break things 15:19:33 elderly GRUMPY bystander 15:19:45 bhaak: of course! It's an honour. 15:19:54 !send dpeg a cane to shake 15:19:54 Sending a cane to shake to dpeg. 15:20:10 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:20:27 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:42 *snrk* 15:21:04 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21:08 Twinge: seriously, my main contribution to 0.14 was proposing the rune lock, which caused a controversy and is now a very minor new feature :) But whatever, great you like what's going on in Crawl land. 15:21:50 dpeg: the discussion around rune lock is the reason we have Depths, you know! 15:22:03 dpeg: it would be too boring if we just broke things the same old way every time 15:22:04 Now I just need to actually find time to *play* it again sometime :P 15:22:07 too easy to fix 15:22:13 rune lock is cool. I still don't understand how people can say it makes 0 difference 15:22:18 Twinge: this is what the tournament is for, seriously 15:22:29 and then still complain about it somehow, too :( 15:22:47 rchandra: yes, me neither. I am quite happy how it turned out, mostly to make us start thinking about overall dungeon structure. 15:23:07 -!- eb has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:25 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:23:52 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:24:25 rune lock turned out pretty great, even tough I even parked a LOCK at the original rune lock for months in protest 15:24:39 Some of my viewers did form a for-fun tourney team; I suppose I might still try to find time to join in. 15:24:40 eb: haha <3 15:24:55 if you ever need pointless overreacting you know who to call 15:26:00 oh hey it's twinge 15:26:28 Greetings eb. 15:26:51 Twinge: who are you again 15:27:05 I'm kind of in a state of eternal drowsiness. 15:27:08 So just how controversial was the change the being able to butcher while weilding a cursed blunt weapon, out of curiosity? 15:27:36 Bloax: Probably not a name you should know, don't worry =) I did a few things way back around 0.6, mostly monster exp balance. 15:27:43 It was met with general joy. 15:28:08 are you this rob fellow people were just celebrating the return of 15:28:12 one tiny step towards food removal 15:28:21 -!- shobalk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:28:22 *evil laughter* 15:28:29 No, rob is still playing right now :b 15:28:37 ah okay 15:28:46 !lg * t 15:28:46 135. Piginabag the Magician (L5 OpWn), slain by an orc wizard (a +0,+0 dagger) on D:3 on 2014-04-11 20:27:49, with 236 points after 3353 turns and 0:09:18. 15:28:53 guess you're ANOTHER old face paying a visit 15:29:13 good to know 15:29:14 (hi) 15:29:17 This is what happens with tournaments! 15:29:18 !hs * t 15:29:19 136. qw the Severer (L12 GrBe of Trog), starved to death on Lair:1 on 2014-04-11 20:12:06, with 16244 points after 12190 turns and 0:07:11. 15:29:59 I didn't even know twinge was a dev, I remember him from *gasp* kongai beta 15:30:18 -!- Stendarr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:30:49 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Quit: Excess flood] 15:30:55 I have so much trouble mapping nicks to real names. Sorry Twing! 15:32:11 dpeg: I don't really expect people to remember me too well, no worries =) It's been... wow, 4 years pretty much. 15:32:47 Twinge: so you must remember rob (by) -- you were active at the same time 15:33:11 eb: Haha, indeed. I was actually talking about that on stream last night - someone came in and said "whats the point of playing a game without a timer?", which is a line of thought I've only ever heard from one of Sirlin's crew (Waterd) 15:33:49 -!- witwit23 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:33:49 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:34:11 Twinge: that's a terrible question 15:34:31 there's a timer irl 15:34:50 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:02 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:20 did you answer that 15:35:30 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:35:57 -!- esper6 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:37:22 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:37:26 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 15:51:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:38 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:55:17 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 15:56:02 -!- TerryDactyl has quit [] 15:57:14 -!- shobalk has quit [Client Quit] 15:57:57 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:58:05 crazyfist (L16 DECj) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 115: ZotDef: monster burning bush failed to pathfind to (39,26) (the Orb) (Zot (ZotDef)) 15:59:23 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 16:00:01 While trying to port crawl 0.14.0 to FreeBSD: "main.cc:(.text+0x2468): undefined reference to `debug_terp_dlua(CLua&)'" 16:00:12 -!- Stumpsv has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:30 but luaterp.o has been build succesfully build. 16:01:11 hm 16:01:20 debug_terp_dlua appears to only exist if WIZARD is defined. 16:01:56 interesting. wizard is not defined. 16:02:13 i'll try a build with WIZARD. 16:02:39 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 16:02:47 blabber: Try a build "make debug" 16:03:08 blabber: Normal wiz mode is on by default (opt in) debug builds are always in wiz mode. 16:03:21 blabber: It's only on server the default is wiz off. 16:06:49 right, it builds just fine when WIZARD is set. 16:06:57 -!- Taimou has quit [] 16:08:11 i handle sound 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(Mercenary Card) promote? 17:29:41 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:50 yes 17:29:56 to impalers 17:30:18 -!- notclule has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32:47 -!- Ququman has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:49 -!- MgDawn_MiBe has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0/20131216183647]] 17:34:06 -!- CrazyArbalest has quit [Client Quit] 17:34:23 -!- _rob has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:26 -!- _rob is now known as Guest46839 17:35:08 -!- Guest46839 is now known as ____rob 17:35:09 uh, this is a weird bug 17:35:39 Thanks dck. 17:35:40 I somehow have 3 red > on vaults:1 and 2 green < on vaults:2 (and apparently no other up staircases) 17:35:57 <____rob> hello, everybody 17:37:23 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:29 ____rob: Glad you could make it : ) 17:39:41 ih 17:39:53 -!- Kikubaaqudha has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:40:55 <____rob> I'd expected the game to kill me a bit quicker... 17:40:59 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:43:11 -!- Scytale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:44:26 ___rob: It's gone soft! Come and save us! 17:44:51 -!- Hozuki has quit [Client Quit] 17:46:15 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46:20 -!- Kikubaaqudha has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:35 <____rob> hah 17:47:46 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 17:47:47 <____rob> has it, really? or is CeSu just that strong? 17:48:36 ___rob: There's been some concerns about Crawl's difficulty, and 0.7 has been often viewed as the best model for difficulty. 17:48:41 <____rob> I do remember there was some drive back in the day towards making the early game easier 17:49:00 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:11 Most of these concerns were for the mid game on, though. 17:49:28 ___rob: Were you here for the +3hp for starting characters thing? 17:49:55 That was before I started playing Crawl, but apparently it made the early game much easier. 17:50:36 On CeSu: It's a Centaur AND it's a Summoner. It can't be that bad, even though it doesn't really synergize. 17:51:06 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 17:51:33 <____rob> I dimly remember that HP+3 discussion 17:51:53 Hmm, I don't know for any other large early game buffs. 17:52:14 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 17:53:29 or small early game buffs. 17:53:43 ____rob: Hallo Robert! Wie geht's? 17:53:53 <____rob> ganz gut, und selbst? 17:54:42 Auch. Arbeite jetzt in Essen, pendel immer noch. 17:54:51 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-134-gcf47855 (34) 17:55:09 ____rob: Adam recently retired. All the old guys disappaer. 17:55:37 <____rob> I noticed, I'm still on the mailing lists 17:55:44 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:55:54 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:05 ah, I had no idea you're reading those four years onwards :) 17:56:30 A bit like when I suggested to finally remove those pizzas and then out of the blue Haran came with a thundering NO! 17:56:34 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 17:57:48 <____rob> re the old guys disappearing, you're still here! 17:58:01 I have no life!! 17:58:39 proposing a god here and there is much less taxing than actually coding stuff, imo 17:59:47 Is it accurate that CAO still lists 0.14 as beta, or has it just not updated yet? 17:59:59 -!- MiracleKinacle has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:02:32 dtsund: well it looks like we have a release tag ... 18:02:58 I know this 18:03:20 I know there's a 0.14 release, I just didn't know if CAO had updated properly yet. 18:03:27 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:04:17 !version 18:04:20 trunk: 0.15-a0-133-g953de00; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 18:04:37 is CAO henzell? or gretell? 18:04:42 @version 18:04:48 Henzell: 18:04:52 s/: // 18:04:54 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:07 %version 18:05:08 trunk: 0.15-a0-128-g9b6c994; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 18:05:29 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:05:40 why isn't v0.14 showing up? 18:05:44 ^version 18:05:44 trunk: 0.15-a0-129-g9ca3c7b; 0.13: 0.13.2 18:06:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:07:06 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 18:11:04 -!- Raycaster has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:13:31 <____rob> alright, must sleep, have fun! 18:13:31 Sorry for OT question: do rings of wizardry stack? (Shopping) 18:13:42 ____rob: have fun, great to see you! 18:13:46 <____rob> dpeg: wir sollten mal ein bier trinken, wenn du in berlin bist 18:13:49 Last I recall, they do, but not very well 18:13:57 -!- ____rob has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:14:07 ok, thx 18:14:14 Could've changed, though 18:15:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:15:41 -!- ZRN has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:15:48 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:28 dpeg:still the case 18:17:10 Kind of confused everybody was freaking out over rob playing but then almost nobody came out when he came online. 18:20:44 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:21:14 reaverb: came out = watched him? 18:21:17 (and thanks) 18:21:48 -!- SamB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:21:59 dpeg: Well, I mean only you talked to him. Even though around six diferant people talked about him. 18:22:15 haha, yeah 18:22:46 reaverb: and now imagine what happened if Linley graced this lowly den with his appearance :) 18:23:07 dpeg: Heh, you mean like that one time he used the Yred nick? 18:23:26 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:49 yes! 18:25:07 Clearing Lair and Orc on my only tournament guy, it's probably enough for today. Later! 18:25:24 bye 18:25:28 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:25:48 -!- Trots has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:26:48 -!- Zooty has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:29:48 -!- klightning has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31:47 the prophesy of square los has been fulfilled, the creator has returned at long last 18:32:19 st_: Rob is the one who started square los? Hmm. 18:33:18 -!- Reign__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:26 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33:43 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:35:22 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 18:39:41 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:42:13 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:44:18 ??square LoS controversy 18:44:18 I don't have a page labeled square_LoS_controversy in my learndb. 18:44:30 ??square los 18:44:30 square los ~ squarelos[1/5]: Reality of crawl where LOS is square rather than circular. 18:45:27 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:46:03 -!- eb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:36 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [] 18:49:49 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:50:05 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:47 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:56:57 I wouldn't guess dire elephants promote to Hellephants? 18:57:46 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:57 dire elephant (02Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 15 | HP: 91-131 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Dam: 4007(trample), 15 | Res: 06magic(100), 12drown | XP: 1244 | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 18:57:57 %??Dire elephant 18:57:59 hellephant (04Y) | Spd: 10 | HD: 20 | HP: 139-204 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Dam: 4507(trample), 20, 15 | 05demonic, !sil | Res: 06magic(133), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 3124 | Sp: fire breath (3d40), blink | Sz: Giant | Int: animal. 18:57:59 %??Hellephant 18:58:08 quite the promotion it would be 18:58:21 fire breath (3d40) 18:58:24 especially that part 18:58:33 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58:52 interesting how they don't have any form of fire resistance 18:59:06 ??promote 18:59:06 I don't have a page labeled promote in my learndb. 18:59:12 ?/promote 18:59:12 Matching entries (2): card_power[2] | enchant_armour[1] 18:59:18 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:59:32 Some natural enemies promote when their HD hit the right level. 18:59:40 johnstein: Monsters can gain XP just like you! If they gain enough they become differant monsters. Merfolk -> Merfolk Implaer, etc. 19:00:08 I, by Xom's Grace, have a permanent allied Dire Elephant and was wondering if it will 19:00:12 Elves -> Other Elves. Orcs -> Orc Warrirors, Orc Wizards, or Orc Priests. 19:00:45 neat 19:00:49 I never knew that 19:01:02 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:02:49 There's lot of little hidden mechanics in the Crawl source. Linley said one of his goals was for Crawl to reach Nethack - levels of montorous special cases. 19:03:05 Wahaha (L20 FoMo) ASSERT(in_bounds(source)) in 'beam.cc' at line 617 failed. (source = (0,0)) (Shoals:3) 19:03:16 I had a Merfolk (Mercenary Card) it promoted to Impaler...Xom Polymorphed it into Yellow Draconian Scorcher...Xom Polymorphed it into a Dire Elephant. 19:03:22 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:03:36 !locateall Kikubaaqudha 19:03:37 Failed to locate Kikubaaqudha. 19:03:49 Offline 19:03:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:01 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Client Quit] 19:07:11 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:08:24 -!- ckyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:29 -!- Blazinghand has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:36 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:08:55 -!- ckyle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:14 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 19:12:37 -!- Basil is now known as Guest38617 19:14:25 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:28 -!- sinusoidal has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:15:57 -!- Guest38617 is now known as Basil 19:16:06 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:16:39 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:13 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:38 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:18:29 +4 Plate {MR++, Stealth++} or +2 Plate {rC++, Dex+3, Acc-5} or +2 Leather {MR++} 19:18:38 oops meant for main channel 19:18:59 Kikubaaqudgha: the +2 plate 19:20:38 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:55 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:53 Is 0.14 not supposed to support the grunt language D:? Like is that Trunk only? 19:22:20 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:22:34 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:32 -!- Stumpsv has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:35 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:51 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:25:58 <|amethyst> !version 19:26:16 trunk: 0.15-a0-133-g953de00; 0.14: 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 19:26:26 <|amethyst> %version 19:26:26 trunk: 0.15-a0-128-g9b6c994; 0.14: 0.14.0-6-g1bc2dff; 0.13: 0.13.2; 0.12: 0.12.3; 0.11: 0.11.3; 0.10: 0.10.3-19-g6f05415 19:26:45 <|amethyst> elliptic: Removed the (beta) 19:26:56 <|amethyst> elliptic: also on CAO 19:27:56 thanks 19:33:02 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:18 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:35:16 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 19:36:04 ^version 19:36:04 trunk: 0.15-a0-129-g9ca3c7b; 0.13: 0.13.2 19:36:16 how do I do that |amethyst ? 19:36:22 !time 19:36:22 Time: Apr 12, 2014, 12:36:22 AM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament ends in 15 days, 19 hours, 23 minutes and 37 seconds. 19:38:38 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night!] 19:40:18 -!- Mad_Wack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:40:53 -!- Reign_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:50:57 -!- Scytale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:51:06 -!- jeffro has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:13 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:53:25 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 19:53:44 -!- jeffro has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:07 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:57:24 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 20:01:05 -!- oddsox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:02:20 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:53 -!- platinum has quit [Client Quit] 20:06:08 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 20:06:46 -!- Yllodra has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:07:08 Just found a bug in Stable. 20:07:32 If you summon a Revenant with Corrupt, the Spectral thing sub-summons are normal hostile, not neutral. 20:07:58 Kikubaaqudha: sounds buggy enough to put on mantis at least 20:08:05 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:08:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:09:51 -!- emagenta has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:11:42 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:04 ontoclasm: o hi 20:16:27 hi 20:18:48 -!- whiterider has quit [Quit: This user has gone to sleep.] 20:19:11 -!- DarthXaos has quit [] 20:19:48 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:24 -!- SwissStopwatch has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:57 -!- fungee has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:28:32 -!- Acidburn6 has quit [] 20:36:16 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42:35 -!- dck has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 20:44:32 impossible to reach Barnacled Rune without Flight...is that intended? 20:45:47 -!- gruber has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:46:38 -!- thromnambular has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:46:42 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:49:41 are you playing online Kikubaaqudha ? 20:50:10 I think it might be tides 20:50:37 as in if you wait a path will clear, but I could be wrong 20:51:13 ontoclasm: you up for messing around with some tiles 20:53:09 -!- ayutzia has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:54:48 !apt ha 20:54:48 Ha: Fighting: -1, Short: 3!, Long: 0, Axes: -1, Maces: -2, Polearms: -3*, Staves: -2, Slings: 4!, Bows: 2, Xbows: -1, Throw: 3!, Armour: -2, Dodge: 2, Stealth: 4, Shields: 1, UC: -2*, Splcast: -3, Conj: -2, Hexes: -1, Charms: 1, Summ: -1, Nec: -2, Tloc: 1, Tmut: -4*, Fire: 0, Ice: 0, Air: 1, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 1, Evo: 2, Exp: 1!, HP: -1, MP: 0 20:57:41 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:00:31 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:07:25 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:08:26 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:09:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:11:59 -!- alefury has quit [] 21:20:43 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:11 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:21:36 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:23:03 Cigotuvi's Fleshworks should have animated walls. that's not currently possible now, is it? 21:25:25 Xgamer4 (L1 VSAs) (D:1) 21:31:37 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:07 -!- halv has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:34:41 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:53 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:11 -!- thromnambular has quit [Client Quit] 21:42:50 !crashlog Xgamer4 21:42:51 1. Xgamer4, XL1 VSAs, T:155 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xgamer4/crash-Xgamer4-20140412-022524.txt 21:43:07 uh-oh 21:46:05 uh oh? 21:46:15 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:12 -!- jeffro_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:47:45 -!- jeffro_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:25 Grunt: hm, I wonder what that bug is 21:48:51 -!- jeffro has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:48:51 elliptic: reads like a division by zero... 21:50:11 MP: 0/0 21:50:27 !source melee_attack.cc:1643 21:50:27 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc;hb=HEAD#l1643 21:50:40 There's the bug. 21:50:42 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:50:44 -!- sildraith has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:51:09 I wonder why we haven't seen this previously though 21:51:15 Likewise. 21:51:32 I guess people have just been unlucky with VS biting if they have no MP? 21:51:49 !lm * crash vs D:1 s=noun 21:51:51 8 milestones for * (crash vs D:1): 5x ASSERT(idx < 5) in 'tilepick.cc' at line 5694 failed., 3x ? 21:51:58 !lm * crash vs D:1 noun=? 21:51:58 3. [2014-04-12 02:25:24] Xgamer4 the Sneak (L1 VSAs) ? (D:1) 21:52:01 !lm * crash vs D:1 noun=? -2 21:52:01 !lm * crash vs D:1 noun=? 1 21:52:01 2/3. [2014-03-23 19:24:04] Stormzand the Insei (L1 VSMo) ? (D:1) 21:52:02 1/3. [2014-01-31 01:45:15] LaconicLad the Insei (L1 VSMo) ? (D:1) 21:52:08 !lm * crash vs D:1 noun=? 1 -log 21:52:08 1. LaconicLad, XL1 VSMo, T:354 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/LaconicLad/crash-LaconicLad-20140131-014515.txt 21:52:10 I guess we have seen it then 21:53:09 still seems weird though that it hasn't happened more 21:53:23 I guess I don't know which backgrounds start with 0 MP 21:54:22 Anyway, easy enough to fix. 21:54:30 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:55:12 http://sprunge.us/OeID is my gut instinct 21:56:28 I sort of feel like requiring you.magic_points != you.max_magic_points would make more sense 21:56:39 since that check is already in there and could be moved up 21:56:47 it doesn't really matter though 21:57:40 http://sprunge.us/IZbU 21:58:20 looks good 21:59:18 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:59:36 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-135-g49da4df: Don't crash VS bites with zero MP. 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 3+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=49da4dfdf67f 21:59:36 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 22:00:22 -!- blackcustard has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:08 -!- Wahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:16 (I guess that should have said MMP, not MP) 22:01:21 (or max MP) 22:02:22 Medar: I got the bug again where I can't spectate (can't load) a game on webtiles without logging out first 22:02:31 so it still exists 22:04:08 !gamesby * t s=server 22:04:08 * (t) has played 1641 games, between 2014-04-11 20:00:09 and 2014-04-12 03:03:41, won 12 (0.7%), high score 2891859, total score 34389861, total turns 7640676, play-time/day 10d+14:45:42, total time 21d+5:31:24. 22:04:21 !lg * t s=server 22:04:22 Unknown field: server 22:04:49 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 22:05:35 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:35 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Changing host] 22:05:35 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:14 !lg * tournament ikiller=vashnia 22:10:14 No games for * (tournament ikiller=vashnia). 22:10:18 !lg * tournament ikiller=asterion 22:10:19 2. SomeoneAwful the Executioner (L16 MiBe of Trog), mangled by Asterion (a +2,+0 demon trident of freezing) on Spider:2 on 2014-04-11 23:51:09, with 117264 points after 30524 turns and 2:30:00. 22:10:28 someone needs to step up his unique game 22:10:29 rip 22:11:02 one of those is ebarrett 22:11:59 of course no. 3 will end up being gammafunk when he steps into spider 22:14:26 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15:07 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 22:15:16 !kw tournament 22:15:17 Built-in: tournament => rstart>2014031120 rtime<2014032720 cv=0.14 22:17:48 -!- Klightning has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:20:15 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:37 hmm 22:20:42 !lg * status=~para t 22:20:43 32. taco the Skirmisher (L5 DsBe of Trog), slain by Sigmund (a +1,+2 scythe of holy wrath) on D:3 on 2014-04-12 03:06:35, with 238 points after 1370 turns and 0:06:37. 22:22:45 !lg * t status=paralysed 22:22:46 32. taco the Skirmisher (L5 DsBe of Trog), slain by Sigmund (a +1,+2 scythe of holy wrath) on D:3 on 2014-04-12 03:06:35, with 238 points after 1370 turns and 0:06:37. 22:22:50 !lg * t status=paralysed s=ckiller 22:22:50 32 games for * (t status=paralysed): 7x Grinder, 6x an orc, 3x an adder, 2x starvation, 2x Sigmund, 2x a slave, a sphinx, an orc sorcerer, a worker ant, Joseph, Crazy Yiuf, a centaur, a hobgoblin, a quokka, Terence, a kobold 22:24:20 Bloax: which exactly 22:24:28 ontoclasm: whichever 22:24:38 from duvessa to iguanas 22:25:56 how come electric brand got nerfed 22:27:16 so, re: duvessa 22:27:28 i feel like the tile you made is nice, but it doesn't feel like duvessa to me 22:27:46 i would make that into, like... fannar 22:27:53 or harold 22:27:58 or louise 22:28:08 !lg * t ckiller=uniq s=ckiller 22:28:09 214 games for * (t ckiller=uniq): 52x Sigmund, 19x Ijyb, 17x Crazy Yiuf, 16x Grinder, 13x Terence, 12x Dowan, 11x Natasha, 9x Pikel, 7x Prince Ribbit, 6x Menkaure, 6x Joseph, 6x Erolcha, 4x Blork, 4x Purgy, 3x Jessica, 3x Maurice, 3x Edmund, 3x Duvessa, 2x Asterion, 2x Erica, 2x Psyche, 2x Nessos, 2x Snorg, 2x Rupert, Nergalle, Maud, Frances, Jory, Fannar, Josephine, Grum, Urug 22:28:17 actually, frances would be perfect 22:28:48 she really needs a new tile and is all about big armor and being crazy buff 22:29:42 -!- Basil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:31:17 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:23 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:31:34 !killratio sigmund * t 22:31:36 sigmund wins 19.47% of battles against * (t). 22:31:41 !killratio grinder * t 22:31:43 grinder wins 11.53% of battles against * (t). 22:32:00 those are low, maybe just because people playing a lot of Be at start of tourney 22:32:03 sigmund in an early lead 22:34:33 if you're wanting something to work on, make dragon armors look better 22:34:45 currently they are dumb looking and all completely identical 22:34:59 Your orc warlord convulses! 22:35:03 ...good, this seems to be working 22:35:10 &G 22:35:12 er 22:35:15 this isn't my Crawl window 22:35:16 despite the fact that one is a robe and one is heavier than plate armour made of solid rock 22:37:09 -!- ubuntu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:09 -!- ubuntu is now known as Basil 22:37:37 -!- ahahaha has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:37:47 mhm 22:38:22 -!- mamgar has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:40:29 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 22:41:06 -!- Ciph has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:42:47 03Grunt02 07* 0.15-a0-136-g43baa79: Give several area(-ish) spells tracers. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 53+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43baa798a097 22:42:57 rip secret Beogh tech 22:45:26 ...incidentally arena is a lot more fun with !!! 22:46:09 -!- demise has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:46:50 haha 22:48:42 hey, should I report a disconnected section of swamp level? 22:49:22 pretty sure it is already reported, but you can check and report it again if you can't find it 22:53:49 -!- Zannick has quit [Quit: Have you tried recompiling it?] 22:54:45 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 22:56:06 -!- TerryDactyl has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:57:08 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6629 this one is marked closed 22:57:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:59:05 %git :/Zannick 22:59:06 07|amethyst02 * 0.13-a0-2655-gb2bc1a6: Fix a raging bat crash (GrandiloquentGentleman, Zannick) 10(8 months ago, 1 file, 3+ 3-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b2bc1a6fda33 22:59:47 Zannick: I enjoy that it's called a raging bat crash 23:00:06 PleasingFungus: yeah, looks like people thought this was fixed but it wasn't... I'd say create a new issue and provide savefile if possible 23:06:56 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:08:46 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:08:48 -!- kekekela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10:05 -!- PteriDactyl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:10:45 ontoclasm: well they both look completely different 23:11:53 -!- RZX has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 23:12:00 In that Dowan doesn't look completely harmless and Duvessa looks competent. 23:12:37 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:19:32 dowan is still recognizable as dowan though 23:20:04 I'd ask one of you to dump the save from cao, right? I think I remember doing that a few months ago... 23:20:12 duvessa is a female elf with a completely different body shape in completely different clothes with completely different hair 23:20:27 -!- hdcrt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:21:00 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:01 i'm all for redesigning things but i guarantee everyone's first thought will be "how is that duvessa" 23:21:09 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:21:18 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:21:25 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:44 -!- ckyle_ has quit [Quit: ckyle_] 23:22:58 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 23:27:18 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:29:08 well i got struck down by apathy 23:29:13 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Skymulet.png so here you are :( 23:29:27 !tell Napkin @dump isn't handling 0.14 currently - it looks to me like all that is needed to fix this is to add 0.14 to the "my %GAME_WEB_MAPPINGS" list in gretell.pl 23:29:28 elliptic: OK, I'll let napkin know. 23:30:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:32:21 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:32:32 Bloax: neat 23:32:56 yeah but it's time to sleep now 23:34:10 clearly frances should have a chance to spawn with the obsidian axe 23:34:33 (It doesn't work properly with monster wielders right now.) 23:34:43 (...though if it ever does I'm fixing that one vault of mine again <_<) 23:34:45 (then make it work :v) 23:40:10 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:41:47 -!- Hellioning has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:43:07 well part of the problem is that monsters are always mesmerized basically 23:43:15 except when they aren't 23:43:39 just make it permazerk the monster :^) 23:44:39 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 23:44:59 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:47:25 -!- Bloax has quit [Quit: Error: Bloax not found] 23:54:16 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:55:14 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle]