00:00:28 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-b1-26-geea93df 00:00:59 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:01:19 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:39 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.13.2-0-g42362f2 00:03:09 after trying to rebase, I'm getting a bunch of warnings about trailing whitespace. 00:03:09 -!- MgDark_MiBe has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:03:11 http://pastebin.com/56Hc3JfC 00:03:31 from some stuff I added in ./dat/descript/monsters.txt and quote.txt 00:03:35 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-60-g2d7d1c5 (34) 00:03:56 when I checked out the files, I did see some trailing spaces, but I deleted them, yet I'm still getting the warnings 00:04:37 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:13:28 new unique? 00:13:38 also: have you run checkwhite 00:14:01 I don't know what checkwrite is 00:14:05 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:14:17 and yea, playing around with making a unique. who knows how well that will go 00:15:02 crawl-ref/source/util/checkwhite . Be warned that it will change files when run 00:15:56 should be renamed 'fixwhite' 00:15:59 ty 00:16:06 np 00:16:16 oooh check WHITE 00:16:18 not write 00:16:19 hah 00:17:28 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:19:14 -!- tali713 has left ##crawl-dev 00:22:53 PleasingFungus: util/checkwhite fixed a couple files, but didn't affect monster.txt so I'm still getting the whitespace warnings 00:22:54 hmm 00:23:35 I bet it's a line-ending problem 00:23:46 CRLF 00:24:40 yea, I was wondering about that. I had assumed that working in linux was how everyone else did it so I'd be ok. but I never really though through that assumption 00:26:02 What editing tool are you using? there should be an option to display whitespace 00:26:12 which would let you see if that's the problem 00:27:01 vim 00:27:06 I just learned how to do that 00:27:08 :set list 00:27:11 here's what it looks like 00:27:13 http://pastebin.com/SHq19JT2 00:27:15 looks ok to me 00:30:06 hm. looking around online, maybe these are just pointless warnings? 00:34:14 In a sense, aren't all warnings pointless, if not followed? 00:34:30 (I'd recommend asking again tomorrow, when actual devs are awake & about.) 00:35:34 heh yea. 9-10pm PST is my usual online time these days ;p 00:35:36 ty 00:35:50 -!- Thalfon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:37:22 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:44:44 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:48:54 -!- buzzykins has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49:33 -!- Kalir has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:49:44 -!- GiantOwl is now known as Kalir 00:49:52 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:50:56 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has joined ##crawl-dev 00:50:56 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:54:48 -!- trystero has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:56:08 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:58:05 -!- hurdos1 has quit [Client Quit] 00:58:43 ok. well, I just continued with the merge. hopefully it compiles! 00:58:54 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00:38 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:01:03 -!- tabstorm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:05:12 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:16:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 01:17:27 -!- FelesTheCat has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:17:39 -!- Crehl has quit [Quit: qqqqqqq] 01:22:15 -!- hurdos has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:25:38 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:34:18 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:35:55 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36:52 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39:02 -!- mong has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:42:20 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 01:59:21 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:01:53 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 02:04:49 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:04:58 -!- rast- is now known as rast 02:05:38 -!- dukerson has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:16:38 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.14-b1-26-geea93df 02:19:39 "/crawl-master/crawl-helen/data/dat/des/variable/kennysheep.des:71: no features matching "mangrove"" 02:19:52 this is on my own repo, not CBRO, when I try to run console 02:20:17 after rebasing my branch into master. I'm running a modified version of the dgamelaunch install scripts. but they worked a month ago 02:20:44 I've seen this issue where after merging/rebasing after several weeks, some *.des files seem unsynced 02:20:53 I've never understood what is going on. 02:21:01 so I may need help tomorrow understanding this 02:23:24 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.13.2-0-g42362f2 02:26:35 ?/mangrove 02:26:35 Matching terms (2): mangrove, shambling_mangrove; entries (4): roots[1] | shambling_mangrove[1] | treant[1] | tree[1] 02:28:53 date on the file is feb 12, so it just must be a faulty install script not properly copying the new data 02:28:56 -!- raskol` is now known as raskol 02:30:17 Unstable branch on crawl.beRotato.org updated to: 0.15-a0-60-g2d7d1c5 (34) 02:34:30 yea. I guess my install script doesn't remove the old .des files. (had to remove ./branches/forest.des too). 02:36:44 -!- nrook has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:39:38 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 02:40:21 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46:08 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 02:48:34 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51:09 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:09 -!- minmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:52:46 -!- LordSloth has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:56:53 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:59:26 Spider emerges from water. by nubinia 03:02:36 -!- jeruzalmi has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:06:47 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 03:19:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:24:25 -!- DracheReborn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:28:08 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:29:56 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:30:34 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:36:21 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:55:13 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:57:17 SkiChan (L24 MiFi) ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1205: invalid monster to place: program bug (0) (WizLab) 04:01:39 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:01:59 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 04:04:05 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:26 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:43:06 -!- pluah has quit [Client Quit] 04:43:43 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:46:54 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:11 -!- SkiChan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:56:12 -!- sstrickl has quit [Read error: No route to host] 05:05:34 -!- BlackrayJack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:07:22 Wahaha (L16 FoFi) ERROR in 'mon-util.cc' at line 611: bogus mc (no monster data): invalid monster_type 1000 (1000) (Swamp:2) 05:08:00 -!- Wahaha has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:19 Asterion's spectral weapon didn't disappear when he died and I attacked it 05:10:20 it doesn't actually do anything if asterion is dead, right? 05:10:23 apart from blocking los and such 05:18:38 Stable (0.13) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.13.2-0-g42362f2 05:26:56 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 05:33:08 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:37:35 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:13 -!- sd1989 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:44 !messages 05:43:44 No messages for sd1989. 05:43:54 -!- sd1989 has quit [Client Quit] 05:55:40 -!- drachereborn has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:58 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:02:13 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:31 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:14:36 !seen Grunt 06:14:36 I last saw Grunt at Sat Apr 5 03:53:57 2014 UTC (7h 20m 39s ago) saying 'IMO start a VSEn or VSAs and go worship' on ##crawl. 06:14:58 hi dpeg 06:15:13 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:16:12 Hi there! 06:16:45 I had an idea for some vaults, but they might be contentious: I want to put Lair and Orc entries in sight of statues. 06:16:46 are you still in contact with pubby? wanted to ask if you know equipgod's status 06:16:49 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has quit [Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 .] 06:16:58 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:11 I plan to code some of the special brands brainstormed in tavern, which pubby or whoever else takes over might add to equipgod 06:18:11 drachereborn: pubby dropped the ball :( :( :( 06:18:33 We exchanged some final comments about smithgod and equipgod, and that's probably it for the time being. 06:19:09 I am trying to combine the two god designs into one (should be possible)... would be a shame to let pubby's concept and code go to waste. Are you interesting in picking up were he left? Also in design? 06:19:27 I could try to code it sure 06:19:49 I'm pretty lousy at design though, so using other people's good ideas seem better for me :p 06:25:15 I will come up with a concept once 0.14 is out, okay? 06:25:35 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:04 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Client Quit] 06:27:15 dpeg: sure 06:27:19 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:22 ah, right people are complaining about lack of trunk updates (for downloads) 06:28:27 who to ask & annoy? 06:28:58 TehDruid on the forum posted some Windows builds 06:29:09 but probably not what you're looking for :) 06:30:27 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:18 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:37:33 -!- fcrawl has joined ##crawl-dev 06:39:48 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:41:15 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:18 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 06:48:27 -!- Ketsa1 has quit [Client Quit] 06:54:30 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:09 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14:24:03 it's roleplaying. 14:24:12 oh wait that comment was from an hour ago 14:24:17 I guess I'm roleplaying too 14:24:32 PleasingFungus: I'm pretty sure it was named Chibraiados because it was slow. 14:24:43 The bot it was originally based on was called Ashenzari 14:24:48 haha 14:25:56 In any case, I'm pretty sure IRC discussion are not move actions, so Chei has no effect on them. 14:26:28 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:26:30 -!- Eonwe3 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:27:10 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:36 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:32:24 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:38:31 -!- Eonwe3 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:41:54 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140403030201]] 14:54:19 -!- _aardvark has quit [] 14:59:08 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:00:27 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:53 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 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inspiration for the name 15:52:30 <|amethyst> and I couldn't think of another bot name (other than Ashenzari) that fit better 15:52:39 <|amethyst> Kikubaaqudgha maybe 15:52:42 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:53:13 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55:22 it was a good choice 15:55:24 anyone have a couple minutes to help me get one of my branches cleaned up? 15:55:36 last night Grunt recommended that I rebase rather than merge master 15:55:46 which is what I've been doing till now 15:56:23 I tried rebasing, but man, it got hairy and seems like extra complicated since I had done some merging for the branch. 15:56:38 I learned all about git reflog and got myself back to where I was pre-attempted-rebase 15:56:52 and ran git log --author NAME|grep commit 15:57:03 so now I have a list of the 10-15 commits or so that I made for that branch 15:57:17 and I'd like to set up a new branch so that I can easily rebase in the future 15:57:45 seems like I could just make a new branch based on the current master, then just cherry pick those 10-15 commits from my old branch 15:58:06 then in the future, git fetch --all, then git rebase master 15:58:25 I'm not sure if that's the right/best way to set this up 15:59:05 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 16:01:42 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:04:02 -!- Red_Bucketu is now known as Red_Bucket 16:12:22 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:12:53 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:14:03 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:45 -!- nixor has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:29:03 -!- Lysalla has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:36:58 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:01 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 16:37:25 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39:18 johnstein: I think rebasing is better than merging... but using them in combination sounds scary 16:39:35 fr: remove Zot Defence from main menu, make it a Sprint map 16:39:42 since, well, it is 16:40:02 !seen dpeg 16:40:03 I last saw dpeg at Sat Apr 5 20:35:13 2014 UTC (1h 4m 49s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 16:40:44 nrook: yea, that's what I think I ran into 16:41:01 and what I forgot to tell Grunt last night. it was a branch that had been repeatedly merged 16:41:20 and now, I've got a ton of untracked files that is preventing me from doing anything. http://pastebin.com/Q6w9ymXB 16:41:43 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:41:55 probably from my git reset antics earlier. 16:42:00 johnstein: Yes, the primary purpose of rebasing is for when you don't merge with other things. (Also sorry dude abou that massive list of files)d 16:42:21 the branch is current to Feb 9, which was my last successful merge before I didn't do any dev for two months 16:42:37 !tell reaverb: I have a final wanderer patch that comes out of joint design with elliptic. I think it's pretty solid, and it tests well. I'd love to see it get adopted soon. 16:42:38 Lasty1: OK, I'll let reaverb: know. 16:42:45 Lasty1: morning 16:42:47 !messages 16:42:48 No messages for reaverb. 16:42:57 hey, wasn't sure you were still here 16:43:00 Lasty1: Also, you can't but a semicolon there. 16:43:07 Oh, ha 16:43:09 oops 16:43:14 so the current untracked file seem to be required for the Feb 9 version, but are untracked in the current master. so seems like something is out of sync based on the git reset. sooooo I'm learning... or something 16:43:21 ty reaverb 16:43:22 Lasty1: Look two posts above your !tell. 16:43:36 rebasing? 16:43:41 I thought I rebased it 16:43:55 Lasty1: We're talking about a differant branch. 16:44:15 what should I be looking at? 16:44:17 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 16:44:18 Also, you can't have a semicolon in your freenode nick, so that message to me is going to rot like forever. 16:44:36 well, you saw the text, so no harm done 16:44:39 but now I know 16:45:15 Feel like pushing a wanderer patch? :D 16:45:35 Lasty1: I'm not a dev. 16:45:38 oh 16:45:39 haha 16:46:27 (Although I am happy I've been upgraded to dev mimic) 16:46:30 Honestly I can't wait for the patch because wanderers are my favorite background 16:46:48 you do always seem to know what's up w/ dev stuff 16:47:05 Lasty1: I just hang out in IRC channels and read the commit logs. 16:47:24 I've also got some patches in, but they're generally internal clean-ups rather than new features. 16:47:26 reaver is a def iff reaver is a class, I believe 16:48:35 Right now I'm working on Iashol. I've got him working w/ no abilities or piety gain, s, uh, that's a start. 16:48:46 Lasty1: Oh, a note your patch might get delayed because of the tourney. Generally splitting people's attention between the tournament and fun stuff in Trunk is bad, so devlopment is purposely low key during that time. 16:48:58 yeah, makes sense 16:49:05 Lasty1: oh, damn, I still owe you a set of comments, right? I have time tonight. 16:49:15 haha, yeah? 16:49:19 er yeah 16:49:25 sorry! 16:50:22 no problem 16:50:22 %git 16:50:22 07|amethyst02 * 0.15-a0-60-g2d7d1c5: Tab is for losing weight, not indenting Crawl. 10(22 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d7d1c5946cf 16:51:28 reaverb: I'd never have the strength of spirit to write a style/cleanup/readability patch :) To have it be rejected would be too depressing. 16:52:01 nrook: Yes, my first patch was rejected and it took me a while (like months) before I tried again. 16:52:14 nrook: Although I would be even more concerned about a feature patch being rejected. 16:52:28 at least with a feature patch you can check with people beforehand 16:52:38 -!- scummos| has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52:51 Lasty1: I'm happy to see more gods getting in the game! God development needs to catch up with species development. 16:53:07 "split this 300-line function into many smaller functions" is going to be something people only like/dislike when they see it 16:53:09 dpeg: I'm just happy you're interested in commenting 16:53:27 Lasty1: I did go through the wiki page once, did I? 16:53:28 speaking of gods, dpeg: I'm interested in implementing that old gold god idea 16:53:42 Yes, I think so 16:53:58 nrook: Might want for food reform to be dealt with before starting that. 16:54:22 Lasty1: cool. So one more go tonight! Is all information on the dev wiki or some only on the forum? 16:54:39 reaverb: yes, some specifications have to be adapted. 16:55:02 I had a good idea from Glenstorm recently: when offering skill sacrifices, sometimes (always) select skills with some skill levels, and give piety based on how much XP is lost in locking the skill. 16:55:14 Aside from that, pretty much all info is in the dev wiki 16:55:18 that's the authoritative source 16:55:36 dpeg: Yeah, one problem I've noticed is that the differance between "awesome and elegant idea" and "awful idea which makes the game really hard to change" is often context. See: Ash and curse removal. 16:55:38 Lasty1: sounds very reasonable 16:56:32 reaverb: hard to parse for me? Is the Ash curse awesome or awful now? :) 16:56:58 It's a niche thing I think. 16:57:43 reaverb: I'm glad! I'm excited for some more gods too, particularly ones that happen to match my prefered play styles. :D 16:57:56 I don't really like it or Ashenzari for their respective loss of adaptivity and passiveness. 16:58:02 dpeg: Ash curse mini game is nice, but it relies on stuff which development is leaning toward removing. (cursing) 16:58:05 I have some ideas how to make curses relevant (curse = sticky-curse only is not functional) 16:58:09 (meanwhile i enjoy the god of slow and strong) 16:58:19 dpeg: (or redesigning) 16:58:26 yes 16:58:51 reaverb: curses make some sense (outside of Ash) for certain egos, so it's not terrible ... could be much, much better, of course 16:59:11 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:59:33 dpeg: Assuming that curses are considered a fixed part of the game, the ash curing is a fantastic mechanic. However, assuming curses may or may not be in the game, ash curing starts to have a higher overhead because it forces development into the "has curses" department. 16:59:35 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:35 -!- Patashu has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:59:45 reaverb: absolutely 17:00:54 dpeg: Yes, so that's basically what I was trying to say earlier. Plenty of design decisions which look great at first have that kind of "hidden overhead" 17:02:24 Yeah, I had to kill off Ashenzari in Light partly because of this 17:02:34 :( 17:02:44 dtsund: Oh, Ash is gone in Light. noooooo...... 17:03:17 Passive monster detection was given to Cheibriados; it's a good mechanical fit there 17:03:24 Speaking of Ash and Crawl Light, what about implementing Crawl Light acquirement for Ash worshippers only? 17:03:54 !seen Grunt 17:03:54 I last saw Grunt at Sat Apr 5 03:53:57 2014 UTC (18h 9m 57s ago) saying 'IMO start a VSEn or VSAs and go worship' on ##crawl. 17:04:19 so if I have 10 commits from feb that I want to cherry pick onto the current master, what order should I cherry pick them? oldest to newest or vice-versa? 17:04:30 onto a branch checked out from current master 17:04:34 I think both versions of acquirement can have a place in Crawl (and the Light version is around as interesting from what I hear), and giving the forseen item version to Ash seemed like the most logical way to divide them. 17:04:34 -!- Apparatus_CAO_ has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:04:49 johnstein: Oldest to newest. 17:04:50 That sounds like an interesting idea 17:04:58 thanks reaverb 17:05:18 (I guess I would say that, though.) 17:05:24 johnstein: Since if your newer commits rely on your older ones you'll have a lot of trouble trying to cherry pick them first. 17:05:32 yea. good point. 17:05:45 obvious, in fact 17:05:55 a good, obvious point. 17:06:09 dtsund: Did you make any significant clean up of the acquire code to implement your acquire change? I was thinking about cleaning up that section of the code eventually, and it'd be nice if some work was already done. 17:06:19 * johnstein keeps forgetting git is based on LOGIC and really *isn't* magic 17:06:28 reaverb: Alas, no. 17:06:38 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:06:54 All I basically did was generate items for each of the possible choices and rip off the shop menu code to display them. 17:06:59 dtsund: Oh well. 17:07:07 Then destroy the items not taken. 17:08:21 dstund: Hmm. Could you point me to the commit anyway? github's interface is obviously bad at this. 17:08:33 Oh jeez, that one's way back 17:08:40 Gimme a minute 17:08:58 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:09:22 (At least Github's interface isn't as bad as Gitorious') 17:09:37 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:10:14 I do wonder why the free git hosting sites can't have something like |amethyst's wonderful online interface. 17:10:35 The commit is 7f4d786d5d64c72cf83a504d5579253679b7657a 17:10:39 reaverb: Because we have |amethyst and they have not? 17:10:52 dpeg: Heh. 17:11:08 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:11:23 hey 17:11:25 since people are around now 17:11:38 everyone to their beds 17:11:41 nooo 17:12:04 (1) I'm playing around with adding new unrandart(s), but I have no idea what I'm doing, and I'm getting the error 17:12:07 wiz-item.cc:343:5: error: 'compile_check___LINE__' declared as an array with a negative size 17:12:08 COMPILE_CHECK(ARRAYSZ(_prop_name) == ARTP_NUM_PROPERTIES); 17:12:32 https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light/commit/7f4d786d5d64c72cf83a504d5579253679b7657a 17:13:00 dtsund: Oh, I already found the commit. 17:13:04 PleasingFungus: sorry, that error appears if your unrand idea is bad 17:13:08 ...actually nevermind on that one, I have an idea; I'll let you know once it finishes compiling in two years 17:13:10 PleasingFungus: That means you added a new artifact property without adding a name for it 17:13:10 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:11 nrook: rude 17:13:27 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-60-g2d7d1c5 (34) 17:13:27 dtsund: Did you rename SP_FELID SP_CAT or was it the other way around? 17:13:36 The other way around 17:14:00 dtsund: hmm. 17:14:27 Yeah, this implementation is messy. 17:14:27 PleasingFungus: What does your unrandart do? 17:14:59 PleasingFungus: If you've got a multicore machine, you can speed up compilation dramatically by using passing a -j flag to make 17:15:25 I have a couple of ideas. current one I'm poking at are 'boots of the firewalker' - rf++ rc-, allows lava walking, evoke to trail flame for a little while like a fire elemental 17:15:49 name tentative, flame trail also tentative but it seems neat 17:15:54 dtsund: thanks! I'll try that 17:16:21 PleasingFungus: Also, I'm pretty sure unrandarts are one of those things the developers have learned not to add willy nilly (like uniques) 17:16:30 So, be prepared. 17:16:34 ? 17:16:55 On my machine, I can cut compilation from about 15 minutes to under 2 by doing make -j 8 instead of make 17:17:03 yeah sure that's fine. I don't think it'll be too hard to make and also I think it'll be fun 17:17:06 man, I wonder why it isn't on by default 17:17:12 silly old tools 17:17:26 nrook: Not everybody has multiple cores. (although I have 2) 17:17:29 thing (2) was that I have a description patch for uniques ready, if anyone wants to look at it 17:17:56 nrook: Actually, yeah, a adaptive -j thing by default is probably a good idea now that I think about it. 17:17:57 reaverb: yes, but your compiler should know how many cores you have and parallelize accordingly 17:18:29 or just fire off 8 threads and hope the performance is ok on a single-core machine 17:18:32 PleasingFungus: can you upload them (pastebin or something). Should also show to MarvinPA, I guess. 17:18:36 !seen MarvinPA 17:18:36 I last saw MarvinPA at Thu Apr 3 18:46:50 2014 UTC (2d 3h 31m 46s ago) saying 'heh' on ##crawl-dev. 17:18:42 heh 17:18:59 one sec, uploading 17:19:06 -!- mamgar has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:20:57 http://sprunge.us/aeWZ little patch, http://sprunge.us/WEHF bigger patch 17:21:14 -!- Agenweb has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:21:29 patch 2/3 is a secret which is not yet ready for prime-time; need to talk with archaeo more first 17:24:41 PleasingFungus: looks good to me! Khufu <3 17:24:56 khufu's characterization is so great 17:25:13 he's a little underwhelming as an opponent but his dialogue is splendid 17:25:36 PleasingFungus: I'm not sure sure about Asterion's minotaurism being a curse when it's clearly a normal species in Crawl. 17:25:59 yeah I thought that was weird. was rolling with the original description, though 17:26:08 idk. maybe everyone's racist against minotaurs 17:26:13 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 17:26:18 PleasingFungus: Oh huh, that was in the original descrption. 17:26:21 yeah 17:26:27 a wizard did it 17:26:56 PleasingFungus: Really ironic, since the only way to change your species in Crawl is wiz mode. 17:27:01 And argumably necromutation. 17:27:17 necromut is temporary and thus doesn't count 17:27:33 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:27:56 PleasingFungus: Know that I know my one nitpick was already there, I can gladly say these description changes are very nice. 17:28:02 s/Know/now 17:28:12 excellent 17:28:55 PleasingFungus: perhaps !tell or otherwise show MarvinPA ... would feel strange to me to push them, now that MarvinPA has been going through all descriptions 17:30:22 !tell MarvinPA dpeg asked me to send you these description patches: http://sprunge.us/aeWZ little patch, http://sprunge.us/WEHF bigger patch 17:30:22 PleasingFungus: OK, I'll let marvinpa know. 17:31:01 at some point I might want to give pan/hell lords actual descriptions (maybe similar in style to lom lobon's, his is cool). that's a larger project than fixing existing descriptions, though 17:31:12 if that makes sense 17:34:51 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:38:08 -!- lessens has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:42:43 -!- NomadJim has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42:54 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:45:21 ugh, why did my jenkins die for no reason again 17:45:34 nrook: what is a jenkins? 17:45:55 Color inconsistency in attributes display by Vinterriket 17:46:19 continuous integration server 17:46:30 maybe they're trying to do CI builds of trunk 17:46:38 reaverb: jenkins is a continuous build server. It watches a source control repo and repeatedly builds everything that comes out, or in my case, dies with exit 255 for no reason 17:46:48 nrook: Hmm 17:46:53 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:55 exit 255 implies a missing program 17:46:57 yes, I was trying to get a cbuild working of trunk 17:47:08 nrook send them the evil jenkins 17:47:16 no evil jenkins is too devil for this world 17:47:35 http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPxG_tpCQAE6aNK.png:large 17:47:42 the trouble is I have my jenkins in a docker instance, and I don't understand docker *or* jenkins, so I don't know where my logs are going 17:47:52 sounds like a recipe for success 17:48:07 jenkins has a logviewer for the current instance's logs but that doesn't help when looking for the last instance's logs 17:48:29 ok. finally. back up and running. ugh that was painful 17:48:37 but I think I can rebase the future stuff now 17:48:59 http://dev.berotato.org:8081/#watch-johnstein but it's boring for now 17:50:45 my day job heavily features continuous builds, so I figured I'd give back and try to set one up for crawl too :p 17:51:12 I think the next step is to use the base dgamelaunch install scripts 17:51:59 since mine keep screwing up by leaving deleted .des files in the DGL 17:52:30 For a second I thoguht that was beartato.org and I got exciting 17:52:32 *excited 17:53:08 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:53:49 <|amethyst> Mr Beartato Head 17:55:07 hah 17:55:13 nah, just ole DBRO 18:04:06 <|amethyst> FYI: beernado.com is available 18:04:08 <|amethyst> act fast 18:07:30 lo 18:07:31 l 18:07:34 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 22.0/20130618035212]] 18:07:37 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:14:38 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:03 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:22:18 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:24:17 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 18:24:24 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:15 * johnstein waits for a new commit so he can test rebasing 18:25:48 Maybe somebody can look at my remove gotos patch? At least the first couple removals should be trivial to test. 18:25:50 .nick reaverb 18:26:30 !bug 8352 18:26:31 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8352 18:29:18 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:31:34 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:25 -!- Xenobreeder has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:33:28 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:16 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:37:09 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:46:19 -!- Tuxedo[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:15 What exactly is in source/contrib/freetype 18:47:16 ? 18:48:01 I'm trying to get a Crawl Light on my computer as a branch, but git is complaining it has to override these files. This means they are ignored on the master branch, but tracked on the crawl light fork. 18:48:29 it's a submodule 18:48:34 used by tiles 18:49:26 being a submodule, it is not tracked directly by git but you can use `git submodule` commands to work with it from the main repo 18:49:27 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:51:02 Hmm. Sneaking suspicion that dtsund moved out of the submodule and into the source. 18:52:34 git submodule status 18:53:27 geekosaur: Won't that command also require checking out the light branch? 18:53:45 Which is what I can't do. 18:53:53 Any way to purposely cause a detachted head? 18:54:25 yuou could try git submodule deinit 18:55:02 actually you may want to do that for just freetype; some of the others (notably lua) are needed for console too 18:55:22 geekosaur: Wait, what does git submodule deinit do? 18:55:32 I like tiles and I want to conserve it. 18:55:59 then you don't want to do that, and you may need to make a new checkout to play with crawl-light 18:56:10 er new local repo 18:56:43 geekosaur: Hmm.. There has to be a way to do this. 18:56:43 I'll ask in #git 18:56:44 again 18:57:19 reaverb: Perhaps try cloning crawl-light and then adding Stone Soup as a second remote? 18:57:32 ??crawl-light 18:57:32 crawl-light ~ crawl light[1/3]: A fork of Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light for source, http://inari.aerdan.org/~dtsund/cl_downloads/ for builds. | IRC channel at #CrawlLight. 18:57:36 Worked for me without a hitch. 18:57:40 oh 18:57:53 dtsund: So you did move freetype to the source? 18:58:04 I don't remember. 18:58:08 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:23 dtsund: Hmm. 18:58:35 I may have done something to the contribs at some point due to a hellish time compiling Windows builds, but if so, it was a long time ago 18:59:11 dtsund: I have too many local branches to want to switch repos at this point. 18:59:41 Either that, or maybe they guy who does the OS X stuff for CL did something to them 18:59:48 -!- tabstorm has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:00:04 dtsund: Hmm. 19:01:17 I do know there are some files tracked in CL that are gitignored in SS, related to tiles builds, because I had difficulty getting MinGW to autogenerate them 19:01:25 But they're in rltiles 19:01:46 dtsund: Considering that freetype deals with rltiles, that's probably it. 19:02:24 -!- Pisano has quit [] 19:03:55 Come to think of it, I did do a fresh clone recently on Windows and was able to compile it without suffering through the submodule dance, so I probably did screw around with that 19:03:58 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:05:31 * SamB doesn't remember the submodule dance being all that PAINFUL; just, you know, um, hard to remember ... 19:05:55 ^ 19:06:25 then again I've never tried to build on windows 19:06:32 dtsund: Do you make mac builds? I just tried to compile light and I got and error on zutil.h and crc32.c 19:07:12 I don't, but periodically someone comes and fixes OS X compilation for me 19:07:17 oh, on Debian you don't do the dance anyway 19:07:40 * geekosaur has been working on removing it for macs, but so far only for console --- tiles is pending somewhere in there 19:07:46 Yeah, Linux builds are *easy*. 19:07:55 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:02 -!- rob_ is now known as noose 19:08:11 dtsund: Ok, a this point I'll just keep the crawl-light build seperate and just make patches in the repo and apply them to my stone soup one if I want to look at something. 19:08:34 What's the best way to drop a remote? 19:09:25 git remote rm? 19:09:45 dtsund: Yes, got it, thanks. 19:10:41 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:16:42 reaverb: Out of curiosity, how did you try adding it? 19:17:27 I just tried it in my copy of the Stone Soup repo, and `git remote add crawl-light https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light.git` followed by `git fetch --all` seemed to work. 19:17:51 ...oh, wait, it fails on checkout. 19:18:35 git checkout -f works, though. 19:18:35 ...so it doesn't all check out? 19:19:10 <|amethyst> Grunt: quit causing conflict 19:19:21 |amethyst: >_> 19:19:23 He can't help it, he comes from NetHack 19:19:28 Conflict is a winning tactic 19:19:33 I prefer Discord, thank you!! 19:19:35 <_< 19:19:47 <|amethyst> git hail-eris 19:19:52 <3 19:19:56 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:25 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:25 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/duvessaradical3b.png don't try this at home 19:20:29 -!- Akitten_Homura has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:38 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:20:49 it's harder than it looks 19:21:10 <|amethyst> 1fnord 19:21:42 dtsund: I added it through a vastly more complicated method, but it also failed at the checkout. 19:22:04 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:22:07 dtsund: checkout -f probably would have worked, but I don't want to risk messing up the rest of my repo. 19:22:12 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:33 reaverb: Aha. https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light/commit/3d088b1296875c67b4ff429758ab4d0bc49ce782 19:24:34 dtsund: I find it hilarious you stat is was harming mac comptability, but stone soup works fine while current crawl light doesn't compile on macs : ) 19:24:57 MoogleDan (L27 DrFi) ASSERT(!cell_is_solid(p)) in 'cloud.cc' at line 171 failed. (Coc:7) 19:25:18 I know absolutely nothing about Mac development 19:25:38 oh bummer 19:25:44 If I had access to a Mac for development, I'd take it more personally seriously, but as it is, I can only do what I'm told 19:25:46 !crashlog MoogleDan 19:25:47 3. MoogleDan, XL27 DrFi, T:116807 (milestone): http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/morgue/MoogleDan/crash-MoogleDan-20140406-002457.txt 19:26:21 Hell, if it were feasible to cross-compile for Macs, I'd take it more seriously 19:26:34 dtsund: I can see your point. If I was a fork developer and didn't havea mac, I'd probably drop support for them. 19:26:42 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27:04 -!- ssheafer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:27:09 I can now no longer be angered when software is Windows and/or Linux exclusive now that I know how hard it is to deal with macs. 19:27:48 It's telling that the only visible thing the NetHack DevTeam has done in ten years is periodically come out from hiding to unbreak the Mac build 19:28:47 Wow, ten and a half now. 19:29:17 dtsund: you mean, that Apple just don't care? 19:29:35 Then they see their shadow and flee again 19:29:45 apple cares about the current release 19:30:15 dtsund: or they're just like "eh, looks like everything's still working as well as ever" and find something not-nethack to do 19:30:31 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 19:30:48 there are a lot of folks out there running older versions, but the tooling changes with each OS upgrade --- and the tooling only supports current and previous version, so someone like me on 10.8 cannot build for 10.5/10.6 19:30:59 nor reliably for 10.9 since the C++ stuff changed 19:31:12 ain't nothing better to idle away a Sunday than bash the NH devteam <3 19:31:16 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 19:31:26 (You clumsily bash the NH devteam but do no damage.) 19:31:43 Indeed, they have all traits of shadows. 19:31:58 (The NH devteam slips into the darkness!) 19:32:14 Hopefully NH4 winds up displacing them 19:32:15 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:32:33 dtsund: any fork, yeah 19:33:44 geekosaur: what, you mean it can't run 10.8 apps on 10.9? 19:34:34 OS X development has issues like that, yes. 19:34:43 I am unsure; I know builds run into all sorts of problems with the switch from libstdc++ to libc++, binary stuff probably works but I don't know how far it can be pushed 19:34:49 since apple doesn't exactly push c++ dev 19:34:55 (they prefer objc) 19:34:57 that's not a development problem! 19:35:26 it's ... highly annoying 19:35:34 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:47 SamB: No, there are issues where builds made on particular versions of OS X won't run on particular other versions. 19:35:54 I mean if it can't run apps built for the previous OS, that's more than a toolchain problem 19:36:42 Truth be told, I'm nearly glad I *don't* have the means to make OS X builds, just so that I don't have to put up with that crap 19:37:05 so I guess basically want to go to wiki.debian.org/Mac ;-P 19:37:17 +mac owners 19:38:40 *shrug* I find the Mac UI way more usable than anything on Linux 19:39:00 in the end, I spend a lot more time using my Mac than developing on it 19:40:15 don't worry, the mac ui will continue its degradation and will converge with the iphone UI and then you have no excuse anymore to not use Linux 19:40:24 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:40:25 -!- master_j has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 19:40:27 bhaak: sounds good! 19:40:32 bhaak: meanwhile windows does the exact same 19:40:34 this strategy already worked quite well for windows 19:40:43 since microsoft always looks up to its apple overlord 19:40:52 meanwhile linux does the exact same (gnome3? unity? *retch*) 19:41:02 geekosaur: good thing linux isn't ubuntu 19:41:14 yes, well, Linux has a lot more diversity than those other things 19:41:15 carefully ignoring the gnome3 part, I see 19:41:16 geekosaur: but linux isn't one monolithic bloc 19:41:22 for once, Microsoft was faster in copying Apple than Apple was developing it 19:41:30 hahaha 19:41:52 -!- HellTiger_NB has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:41:52 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:42:15 you mean, MS jumped the gun on the whole "lets make Desktop work just like Mobile, even though Mobile only works that way because Desktop UI doesn't work there" thing? 19:42:18 -!- mk83 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:42:50 To their credit, at least MS is bringing back the true Start menu and letting you run Metro things in windows 19:42:57 Eventually, anyway 19:43:05 Not *this* update, haha. 19:43:27 well, there's "classic shell" already for all those start menu lovers. 19:43:38 * dtsund already has that installed 19:43:43 also, don't forget that MS actually know the meaning of binary compatability 19:44:48 or, well, compatability 19:44:48 * dpeg is slightly confused how quickly the notion of Biggest Evil changes in the digital world. 19:45:16 oh, well, Oracle stole the title I think 19:45:22 I seem to recall they left a bunch of devs screwed by dropping a framework in win8 though 19:45:34 geekosaur: which framework? 19:45:45 was it one of those strange new ones? 19:45:50 I don't recall off the top of my head :/ 19:46:04 -!- ssheafer is now known as brainwrinkle 19:46:08 -!- HellTiger__ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:47:16 I should try to trawl my logs to find the ranting I'm recalling but there was some wrapper around win32 that was being pushed as The Future and then got dropped in win8 19:47:49 -!- Lightli has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:47:54 you'd think they'd just say "don't use this; it's just a dumb wrapper" rather than actually drop it ... 19:48:37 it's microsoft 19:50:05 the only other two things I can remember them actually dropping recently are NTVDM/WOW (which let 16-bit apps run) and ... darn, what was the other thing 19:52:20 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:52:43 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:31 Oh yeah, their Java VM. And that only happened because Sun sued them over it and won. 19:53:43 hm. trying to figure out how to get a duration to display status info. 19:53:56 I added it to duration_data[], but it's not showing up, even when active... 19:54:14 -!- Foamed_ has quit [Client Quit] 19:54:36 PleasingFungus: grep for something which already does that, like might. 19:55:02 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 19:57:16 %git 0.14-a0 19:57:16 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0: Restore trunk changelog entries removed by 673ecc60. 10(6 months ago, 1 file, 26+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a16bb39190cc 19:57:23 %git 0.14-b1 19:57:23 07Grunt02 * 0.14-b1: A changelog touch-up to kick off the 0.14 branch. 10(7 days ago, 1 file, 6+ 7-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=90d5cc33569b 19:57:23 might isn't exactly right - I'd want something more like Shroud, maybe... grepping continues 19:57:30 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:57:43 -!- trystero has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:59:32 wheals: Wow, there haven't been any commits in 24 hours! 19:59:40 I can't remember the last time that happened. 19:59:47 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:00:24 Cherry-picked 1 commit into stone_soup-0.14 20:01:06 we're too bust on our secret projects to be released post-tourney! 20:01:13 s/bust/busy/ 20:01:16 !time 20:01:16 Time: Apr 06, 2014, 01:01:16 AM, UTC. The 2014 0.14 tournament starts in 5 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes and 43 seconds. 20:01:39 wheals: Ohh, makes me hope my refactorings on mantis and elsewere don't break on the new features. 20:05:22 how many secret projects do we expect? 20:05:37 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night and good luck to all!] 20:05:38 * dpeg starts drawing some particularly evil vaults. 20:06:13 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Eeeeeeevil!] 20:06:16 dpeg: why not just raise the weighting of profane halls while you're at it 20:06:34 CHANCE: 100% 20:06:39 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 20:06:53 wheals: make sure it's the unnerfed version too 20:07:09 I'm not too busy on secret projects! 20:07:21 Maybe I'll make a commit that adds a semicolon or something 20:07:23 you only pretend to be 20:07:26 "secret project" 20:07:34 as an excuse for your lack of productivity 20:07:44 well wheals probably is 20:09:02 what's the command to see the list of possible nem choices for 0.14 tourney? 20:11:45 !nwon 8 20:11:51 222 combos won at most 8 times: CeAr CeCj CeEn CeFE CeIE CeSu CeVM CeWr CeWz(Lucia0) DDAE DDAK DDCj DDEn DDIE DDMo DDSk DDSu DDTm DEAK DEAM DEAr DEAs DECK DEDK DEEn DEHe DEHu DEMo DETm DEWr DgAM DgEn(Boxy) DrAM DrAs DrHu DrSu(MorganLeah) FeAE FeAK FeAr FeDK FeEE FeEn FeHe FeNe FoAE FoAK(pubby) FoAM FoAr FoAs FoCj FoCK FoDK FoEE FoEn FoFE FoGl(Lacuenta) FoHe FoHu(Nightstalker,porksupreme) FoIE FoMo... 20:12:05 unless it's !nwon 7, i guess 20:12:18 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:45 there's probably still a fairly big weighting toward Fo and VS 20:12:47 gonna be a lot of dead Fo I bet 20:13:43 Yeah it's 7 or fewer wins 20:13:49 wheals: Oh yes, did I mention there are actually quite a few gotos in Crawl's source? There's like 20 in the main code base, more in the public domain bits. 20:13:49 !nwon 7 20:13:55 169 combos won at most 7 times: CeCj CeEn CeFE CeIE CeSu DDAE DDCj DDIE DDMo DDSk DDSu DDTm DEAK DEAM DEAs DECK DEDK DEHe DEHu DEWr DgAM DrAM DrAs DrSu(MorganLeah) FeAE FeAK FeAr FeDK FeEn FeHe FeNe FoAE FoAK(pubby) FoAM FoAr FoAs FoCj FoCK FoDK FoEE FoEn FoFE FoGl(Lacuenta) FoHe FoHu(Nightstalker,porksupreme) FoIE FoMo FoNe FoSk FoSu FoTm FoVM FoWn(irum) FoWr(kraphead) FoWz GhAK GhAM GhCj GhSk Gh... 20:14:13 yeah, i looked at them at one point 20:14:29 i don't think it's so awful, the public domain ones are probably goint to be pretty low-level 20:14:34 !nwon 7 Fo-- 20:14:38 Subcommand $(=currentgames.inprogress CeCj|CeEn|CeFE|CeIE|CeSu|DDAE|DDCj|DDIE|DDMo|DDSk|DDSu|DDTm|DEAK|DEAM|DEAs|DECK|DEDK|DEHe|DEHu|DEWr|DgAM|DrAM|DrAs|DrSu|FeAE|FeAK|FeAr|FeDK|FeEn|FeHe|FeNe|FoAE|FoAK|FoAM|FoAr|FoAs|FoCj|FoCK|FoDK|FoEE|FoEn|FoFE|FoGl|FoHe|FoHu|FoIE|FoMo|FoNe|FoSk|FoSu|FoTm|FoVM|FoWn|FoWr|FoWz|GhAK|GhAM|GhCj|GhSk|GhSu|GhVM|GhWr|GhWz|GrAE|GrAK|GrAM|GrEn|GrHe|GrHu|GrIE|GrNe|GrSu|Gr... 20:14:45 well ok then 20:14:59 !lg * fo won s=char,cdist(won) 20:15:00 Unknown field: won 20:15:02 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:15:02 -!- jeanjacques_ is now known as jeanjacques 20:15:04 !nwon Fo-- 7 20:15:05 Subcommand $(=nwon.list Fo--) failed: Broken query near 'Fo--' in $(= ${x} x) in $(if $(= ${x} x) All combos ... 20:15:13 !nwon Fo 7 20:15:14 Subcommand $(=nwon.list Fo) failed: Broken query near 'Fo' in $(= ${x} x) in $(if $(= ${x} x) All combos ... 20:15:30 !nwon 7 Fo 20:15:36 profane halls was the first encompass vault I saw, the first time I went into depths. it was cool 20:15:36 Subcommand $(=currentgames.inprogress CeCj|CeEn|CeFE|CeIE|CeSu|DDAE|DDCj|DDIE|DDMo|DDSk|DDSu|DDTm|DEAK|DEAM|DEAs|DECK|DEDK|DEHe|DEHu|DEWr|DgAM|DrAM|DrAs|DrSu|FeAE|FeAK|FeAr|FeDK|FeEn|FeHe|FeNe|FoAE|FoAK|FoAM|FoAr|FoAs|FoCj|FoCK|FoDK|FoEE|FoEn|FoFE|FoGl|FoHe|FoHu|FoIE|FoMo|FoNe|FoSk|FoSu|FoTm|FoVM|FoWn|FoWr|FoWz|GhAK|GhAM|GhCj|GhSk|GhSu|GhVM|GhWr|GhWz|GrAE|GrAK|GrAM|GrEn|GrHe|GrHu|GrIE|GrNe|GrSu|Gr... 20:15:37 okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk 20:18:38 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:18:53 !lg * fo won s=char 20:18:54 79 games for * (fo won): 14x FoFi, 9x FoBe, 7x FoAK, 7x FoHu, 6x FoGl, 4x FoDK, 3x FoCK, 3x FoEn, 2x FoWn, 2x FoAs, 2x FoEE, 2x FoTm, 2x FoHe, 2x FoAr, 2x FoAM, 2x FoVM, FoWz, FoWr, FoSu, FoSk, FoNe, FoMo, FoIE, FoFE, FoCj, FoAE 20:19:01 all fo but Fi and Be, then 20:19:31 !lg * VS won s=char 20:19:31 96 games for * (VS won): 14x VSMo, 11x VSAs, 11x VSBe, 9x VSFi, 4x VSFE, 4x VSEn, 4x VSWn, 4x VSAr, 3x VSWr, 3x VSNe, 3x VSEE, 2x VSAE, 2x VSTm, 2x VSAK, 2x VSSu, 2x VSCj, 2x VSAM, 2x VSGl, 2x VSWz, 2x VSCK, 2x VSSk, 2x VSVM, VSDK, VSHu, VSIE, VSHe 20:19:39 loads of VS too 20:20:16 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:23:08 so I've been messing around with unrand boots that give lava-walking and an evocable "trail flame" ability. (and rf++/rc-.) I think the lavawalking is cool but the evocable flame trail is a bad idea 20:23:21 which is a pity 20:26:00 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:27:52 hrm, ring of fire is a nice mechanic that works well, but just duplicating that isn't a good idea 20:28:01 re: resists? 20:28:10 well I mean the flame cloud part 20:28:16 which is what you were having trouble with 20:28:26 I mean I got it working but I was thinking about how you'd use it 20:28:38 the best use would be 'running away from enemies and letting them cook', which is sort of dumb 20:28:42 yep, I assumed that'd be your problem 20:28:46 since it doesn't sound very useful 20:29:07 it's basically a better conjure flame 20:29:27 does it grand fire cloud immunity 20:29:31 I guess it'd need to do that 20:29:32 kinda like efreets? 20:29:34 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:29:41 the inspiration was efreets/fire elementals, yeah 20:29:53 right now it just drops short duration fire clouds behind you when you move 20:30:27 no fire immunity, just the rf++, which in principle adds an interesting dynamic (now you can't walk backwards!) 20:30:39 (at risk of... SCROLL DESTRUCTION) 20:30:40 sounds more annoying than interesting 20:30:46 yeah 20:30:46 idk 20:30:54 anyway I'm going to take it out 20:31:05 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:27 hm. the problem with lavawalking as a sole gimmick is that it's not as good as flying, mostly 20:33:10 getting back to what people were talking about the other day about making flight more tactically interesting 20:33:54 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34:51 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:37:32 well it's important to keep in mind what you're making 20:37:45 which is an unrand; you're not competing with flight the concept, per se 20:38:00 as in, you're not making a new general-purpose ego 20:38:17 sure 20:38:21 using an unrand allows you to do things that are a bit sillier and somewhat broken 20:38:24 within reason 20:39:12 some fools have made new general purpose boot egos 20:39:17 but they were fools 20:39:18 hahaha 20:39:22 were you a fool 20:39:41 yes, since grunt came along and made it actually good with shadow step 20:39:48 or mikee, depending on how you want to credit it 20:39:53 huh 20:39:59 what was the original version? 20:40:15 no, I mean my version is currently in the game 20:40:21 but shadow step uses the jump targeter 20:40:31 oh, you made the jump boots 20:40:32 and works on a pretty similar basis 20:40:37 I was going to say, yeah, that sounds similar 20:40:59 I'm curious - did you take any inspiration from the old 'scorpion strike' proposed spell? 20:41:17 heh, no but that came up pretty early on in discussions 20:41:23 cool 20:41:29 actually the first version of jump was way more complicated 20:41:43 it had 1) double-targeting and 2) a cblink ability 20:41:53 so you could target your landing site with a second cursor 20:42:05 and then choose an empty square for cblink 20:42:16 but everyone was like "are you crazy" 20:42:31 and mumra gave me the nice blink to random spot adjacent to monster idea 20:42:56 haha 20:43:06 where is the monster generation spreadsheet? 20:43:13 I was poking at an idea a month or so ago for a double-targeting spell 20:43:18 an 'electric fence' spell 20:43:30 never really went anywhere with it, though 20:43:39 double-targeting is pretty much a bad idea for crawl 20:43:46 which strives for interface simplicity 20:43:47 too fiddly for an action you're going to do often 20:43:51 yeah 20:44:05 ackack: grunt linked it in a commit where he reworked the depths population 20:44:12 I can probably find it 20:44:18 he mentions that it is in the same place 20:44:33 but i do not know where that place is 20:44:35 gammafunk: mutli-targetting could work on something like a high end god ability. 20:44:49 gammafunk: It just can't be something you want to use regualrly. 20:44:59 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:45:15 fedhas's plant thing is sort of double-targety 20:45:19 well, we're mincing words here, obviously given I actually made a double-targeting ability, I know one can implement it 20:45:23 well, not exactly 20:45:32 gammafunk: that's not what reaver means 20:46:03 gammafunk: Yeah, I mean it could be good design on a rare ability. 20:46:15 I know what he means; we were talking about an "electric fence" spell 20:46:22 and in general, my comment is correct 20:46:34 avoid double-targeting unless you absolutely must have it 20:46:35 I think everyone is in agreement 20:46:40 Yes. 20:46:43 :) 20:47:18 I think the fact that there's what, literally one example of it is testament to how one shouldn't be adding more 20:47:22 one is enough 20:47:30 which one 20:47:49 I guess the fedhas plant placing thing 20:48:18 well really it just has one choice, the number of plants; for some reason I thought there was a location but it's just around you 20:48:24 that thing is just a bad interface 20:48:31 yes but for different reasons 20:48:33 so really there's not even one example 20:48:35 yeah 20:48:39 rip 20:49:05 hard to imagine why you would need double-targeting 20:49:12 outside of an in-game map builder 20:49:33 (which would be lovely, but probably won't ever happen) 20:49:49 the idea of an electric fence spell was you set up two pylons and electricity went in a beam between and set off a static-discharge style effect whenever anything entered. 20:50:06 the alternate variant of the electric fence would sort of automatically place the fence, perpendicular to you, with the width increasing the further out you targeted it... 20:50:12 ...it'd be a weird spell one way or another 20:50:27 -!- reaverb1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:29 yeah, the trap game has been tried before in crawl, to not very much success, but summon forest is a bit close 20:50:43 idk, I was thinking of a closer analogy to conjure flame 20:50:46 you could randomly place said fence in a smart way 20:51:29 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 20:51:40 ackack: a spreadsheet Grunt used for Depths https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnzBASbyxWI2dFgyVXRWNmUwT1FZdHFWSzNTa3NMTVE 20:51:46 thanks 20:52:07 %git cf00f6c2d7 20:52:07 07Grunt02 * 0.14-a0-2918-gcf00f6c: Depths spawn table overhaul. 10(5 weeks ago, 1 file, 50+ 52-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf00f6c2d70f 20:52:11 for reference 20:52:42 -!- caleba has quit [Quit: caleba] 20:53:04 yeah summon lightning spire maybe fill the role of "stationary zappy thing" 20:53:16 fills it already, I should say 20:53:23 it's true : 20:53:24 ( 20:54:01 -!- reaverb has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:56:32 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:20 -!- xnavy has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:58:49 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:00:30 -!- reaverb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:02:08 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:02:27 -!- Basil has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03:20 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:50 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:48 -!- asdu has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:05:16 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:09:01 -!- nooodl has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 21:11:19 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:11:23 -!- randomizr is now known as RZX 21:20:13 -!- tabstorm_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:23:50 -!- Yermak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:34:36 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:36:58 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:44:50 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:51:15 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:55:51 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:06:58 -!- Lumpydoo has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:09:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:10:36 -!- xnavy has quit [Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 22:10:36 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 22:10:36 -!- simmarine_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:11:23 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:12:03 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:12:23 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:42 -!- lobf_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:57 -!- lobf has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:13:23 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 22:13:34 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:14:11 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:14:11 -!- BirdoPrey_ is now known as BirdoPrey 22:20:21 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:20:38 -!- conted has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:26:11 -!- lobf_ has quit [Quit: lobf_] 22:26:52 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 22:27:51 hm 22:28:03 idk if this is a wizmode thing 22:28:11 but taking off boots of flying while over lava doesn't seem to do anything 22:28:36 PleasingFungus: How did you take them off? Some wiz mode commands take zero time. 22:28:53 "T" 22:29:42 it prompted me if I was sure I wanted to do that 22:29:48 and then let me do it 22:29:50 and then nothing happened 22:30:13 PleasingFungus: Also, how did you aquire the boots of flying in wiz mode? I can't get the pharaer to accept "boots of flying" 22:30:18 boots 22:30:21 then ego 'flying' 22:30:24 I made that mistake too 22:30:47 & o [ boots flying 22:31:57 PleasingFungus: Hm, the game won't let you move. 22:32:03 yep 22:32:09 but, uh, you're still standing on lava 22:32:18 you can't move into lava because that'd be crazy !!! 22:32:33 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:33:52 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:53 PleasingFungus: You transform into a form which is unable to survive in lava, either. But you can turn into a form w/flying. 22:34:12 ? can you rephrase that 22:35:16 PleasingFungus: If you try & z iceform, you'll be told you can't do that because you would die. 22:35:26 good 22:35:27 But if you try & z dragon form, you're allowed. 22:35:33 that's all fine 22:35:58 PleasingFungus: You still burn if a =flight expires, I'm going to say this is a bug. Should you report it or I? 22:36:25 I'll take it 22:36:39 -!- Mottie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:40 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:56 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 22:36:57 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 22:37:06 -!- Akitten_Homura has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:12 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 22:37:21 -!- simmarine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:37:29 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 22:38:16 ty for helping me confirm! 22:38:34 PleasingFungus: Sure thing! Glad you're reporting this. 22:39:07 -!- y2s82_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1] 22:40:24 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:40:25 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:42:40 Taking off boots of flying while over lava/deep water is harmless by PleasingFungus 22:44:57 PleasingFungus: I would recommand adding the bits about transformations being blocked and ring of flight having correct behavoir. Should I add that in a comment? 22:45:08 sure 22:45:16 looking at writing a patch 22:45:23 since I was looking at the relevant code anyway 22:46:44 wtf 22:47:16 if you have a source of evocable flight (e.g. a ring), when you take off the boots of flying, the game automatically & silently evokes flight for you 22:47:34 what if you fail 22:47:49 PleasingFungus: The sliently thing is the only bit which is odd. Liquid instadeath is awful. 22:48:06 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:48:09 it's not limited to when you're over dangerous terrain 22:48:11 it just does it 22:48:15 wheals: not sure if it goes through that code 22:48:43 yeah it doesn't, it just works automatically 22:48:54 though the duration of flight is still dependent on your evoskill 22:50:06 looks like this code dates to before levitation was removed; it called "levitate_player" then. 22:50:30 no, hm, I'm misreading 22:50:40 ..no I'm not 22:58:12 okay, I have a fix for the issue. 22:58:21 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:26 -!- debo has quit [Quit: debo] 22:58:31 should I also change it so that you can't take off your boots of flying in the first place, if it would kill you? 22:58:41 I guess you could scramble free... 22:58:42 that sounds ideal 22:58:58 (removing scrambling would also be ideal) 22:59:08 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:59:11 (removing liquid instead would be even more ideal) 22:59:16 But no pressure. 23:00:45 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 23:01:38 uhhh 23:01:43 okay, done 23:01:55 currently it still has the weird auto-evoke-tempflight behavior 23:02:08 PleasingFungus: Sure, did you upload it to the issue? 23:02:12 not yet 23:02:23 I could take the auto-tempflight code out but I'm worried about what else might be expecting it 23:02:36 it's so weird, though! 23:02:46 PleasingFungus: I would just leave it. I can always be removed later. 23:02:53 s/I/It/ 23:02:56 yeah fair enough 23:02:58 git diff 23:02:59 fuck 23:03:11 PleasingFungus: Did the work on main? 23:03:17 master 23:03:24 ? 23:03:46 PleasingFungus: You know about branches, right? 23:03:53 yes I am in a branch 23:03:58 I know about branches and patching 23:04:00 ty though! 23:04:12 Ok, say what was the cause of the exclamation? 23:04:17 s/say/so 23:04:26 he probably didn't mean to type git diff in this window 23:04:40 wheals: Oh, that makes sense. 23:05:02 Although I probably won't do anything excpet "oops" unless it was my credit card number. 23:07:05 I was operating on pure reflex 23:07:20 git diff, check everything, git add & git commit... 23:07:24 just wrong window 23:07:26 anyway, patch is up. 23:07:29 on the ticket. 23:08:00 Good. 23:09:28 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:04 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 23:19:17 -!- Akitten_Homura is now known as UncertainKitten 23:23:15 -!- ZRN_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:23:33 -!- Basil has joined ##crawl-dev 23:24:27 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 23:35:31 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 23:49:12 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:52:38 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:55:08 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:58:38 -!- Wahaha has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59:06 wheals: it's not quite the same as any of those messages. Closest to "Stopping flight right now would be fatal!" but that's sort of an awkward phrasing... I guess it's clearer about what the problem is, though 23:59:25 switching to ##crawl-dev because this is crawl-dev and the other channel is pretty busy 23:59:33 yeah 23:59:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]