00:01:07 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.14-b1-16-g421572d 00:05:07 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:05:26 -!- trystero_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:05:27 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 00:08:55 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.15-a0-41-g38725a9 (34) 00:13:29 -!- Nethris has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:14:34 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:17:11 -!- MgDark is now known as MgDark_MiBe 00:19:54 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24:19 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:56 -!- wat1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:25:54 -!- Eonwe1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:18 wheals: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?t=11622 00:30:09 it's sad, but some people don't enjoy fun 00:30:48 (They're generally known as the devteam.) 00:32:07 o 00:32:20 1learn add 00:33:06 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:33:17 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping 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reset by peer] 06:06:09 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:06:11 -!- rast- is now known as rast 06:22:20 -!- rchandra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:25:45 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:55 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:32:01 -!- Foamed has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:32:43 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:38 -!- Raycaster has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:43:17 -!- buzzykins has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:46:49 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:47:19 Bcadren: I cannot really comment because I'm not a Panner. (And while I think everyone can comment, those who actually do Pan should be most relevant.) That said, your idea does not look unreasonable to me. 06:56:06 so I missed april fools, was the joke that trunk was crawl 4.1? 06:57:08 no, not really :) 06:57:34 It was modern trunk with some removals reverted, so all the extinct species were in. 06:58:37 last sally of the mountain dwarves, eh? 07:03:12 -!- scummos| has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 07:03:55 indeed! 07:04:17 players were going mountaindwarving like crazy until |amethyst pulled the plug 07:06:33 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:54 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:07:31 -!- conted has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:08:53 -!- Chousuke_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:09:15 some still are 07:09:18 hooray for local crawl 07:10:55 -!- Chousuke has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:10:56 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:11:08 -!- Isasaur has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:13:46 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:30 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:46 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:20:54 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22:44 damn, i missed out on mountain dwarves? bummer 07:23:45 you can still play as an experimental branch on cszo 07:23:47 and cbro 07:24:57 -!- demiskeleton has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:30:26 -!- gammafunk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:54 If I have the link to a postmortem dump, what is the easiest way to watch this game in !tv? 07:37:15 For example: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/splat/morgue-splat-20120214-224034.tx 07:37:57 !lg splat trfi snake:5 07:37:58 2. splat the Wrestler (L27 TrFi of Nemelex Xobeh), mangled by a greater naga (a +0,+0 war axe) on Snake:5 on 2012-02-14 22:40:34, with 615187 points after 98039 turns and 5:31:32. 07:38:06 !tv splat trfi snake:5 07:38:07 2. splat, XL27 TrFi, T:98039 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 07:38:31 wonderful, many thanks! 07:39:26 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:39:45 and off he goes... 07:46:01 -!- krzysz00 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:51:52 What do y'all think of the player Small Mammals getting to a high enough spell power to get Green or Gray Orange maybe even fire bats. Still shit tier stuff; but at least then you wouldn't want to amnesia it at lair-ish. It kind of is the only Level 1 spell that isn't utility enough to keep very long. 07:52:34 no 07:54:39 a decisive answer :) 07:54:40 !tv splat trfi snake:5 07:54:41 2. splat, XL27 TrFi, T:98039 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 07:55:06 Is there a way to slowdown footv? 07:55:38 yeah, i forget exactly what though 07:55:39 ??lg 07:55:39 listgame[1/5]: !lg command displays info about past games. The manual is available here: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_sequell/blob/master/docs/listgame.md 07:56:11 yeah :0.5x 07:56:18 -tv:0.5x 07:56:19 "!lg splat trfi snake:5 -tv:x0.5" would play it at half speed for example 07:56:28 or is it x first 07:56:36 x first, yeah 07:56:49 thank you 07:57:07 !lg splat Tr god=okawaru 07:57:08 3. splat the Grappler (L9 TrFi of Okawaru), slain by a troll on D:9 on 2010-01-29 17:51:36, with 4437 points after 9722 turns and 0:21:49. 07:57:25 the !lg manual is pretty good generally as long as you vaguely know what you're looking for, has a lot of examples and things 07:57:28 !lg splat Tr place=Snake god=okawaru 07:57:29 1. splat the Warrior (L19 TrFi of Okawaru), blasted by a greater naga (orb of energy) on Snake:5 on 2010-01-22 16:46:24, with 237189 points after 64976 turns and 2:52:05. 07:57:37 MarvinPA: I have greensnark's page always open 07:57:44 but I didn't find the speed change there 07:58:06 heh yeah, i guess it is easier if you know for sure that it is there somewhere already :P 07:58:26 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:59:07 now that you said it, I could find it :) 08:00:42 !lg splat trfi snake:5 -tv:x0.3 08:00:43 2. splat, XL27 TrFi, T:98039 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 08:01:17 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:03:01 Actually let me rephrase. Now that both Small Mammal and Call Canine Familiar do roughly the same thing; with CCF being stronger [can only summon one dude at a time and it's a weak melee mammal.] Either Smammal needs a redeeming feature or cut for Summoners to just start with Butterflies. 08:04:58 -!- Hailley has quit [Quit: Petra is closed!] 08:06:20 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06:22 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 08:06:23 -!- rast- is now known as rast 08:09:18 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:17:02 -!- Ragnor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:23:03 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:23 i can maybe see them getting butterflies if they also get a weapon 08:26:28 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:27:48 -!- facemasterDog is now known as Isvaffel 08:30:25 but then it's not the actual Summoning experience, is it? 08:32:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:32:58 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:34:38 As discussed in ##crawl, small mammal is perfectly fine in terms of power for Su start 08:34:57 i don't think anybody enjoys it, though 08:35:12 I think plenty of people are fine with it 08:35:29 If you're criticizing summoning in general, sure there are issues there 08:35:56 but those aren't tied to small mammal in particular 08:36:01 !tv:cancel 08:36:12 i mean mostly that people seem to like the new summons, but spammals is still based around spamming (and people generally like that less) 08:36:21 it has a cap of one 08:36:27 so it's not based on spamming any more 08:36:29 wheals: but then it's good that is has a limited lifetime 08:36:34 true 08:37:56 gammafunk: it has a cap of 4 08:38:23 hrm 08:38:38 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:43 yeah, didn't realize that had been adjusted again 08:39:57 i don't think it ever had a cap of 1 08:40:04 wasn't it two at some point? 08:40:07 ??summon_small_mammal 08:40:08 summon small mammal[1/2]: Summons one rat, bat, quokkas or grey rat. Monsters that cast this spell can additionally summon green and orange rats. Was completely broken before 0.13 and could summon up to 2 (!!) mammals. 08:40:14 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:28 ??summon_small_mammal[2 08:40:29 summon small mammal[2/2]: Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict 08:40:54 well I guess both of those entries are terrible then 08:41:22 the first one seems to imply the cap is lower now, but maybe I'm reading it with too much sarcasm 08:41:29 2 mammals at a time 08:42:14 yeah with the cap, that language is kind of awkward 08:42:54 but in any case, you have the option to spam it more or not. A cap of 4 seems a bit high to me, but it's nothing ridiculous 08:43:27 2 mammals one spell 08:44:09 one quokkas 08:44:09 no comment on the implications of malign gateway 08:44:54 -!- Patashu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:46:16 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:12 Mostly what I meant by bringing it up is most level 1 spells keep having -a use- that they are worth holding onto for well into midgame. Smammals (and maybe Beastly Appendage) are the exceptions. It shouldn't be a no-brainer to forget the spell after a point. 08:48:16 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:48:51 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:21 well your premise is wrong then, it is fine for low-level spells to fall off 08:51:50 I also don't think eventually getting even orange rats at high spellpower is bad...afterall Sticks to Snakes is only level 2 and it can get the far superior anacondas at high enough spell power...situationally Anacondas can be as good or better than s.Hydra. 08:52:23 Bcadren: much better not to worry about later usefulness of level 1 spells 08:52:41 rather than trying to make sure they are useful on D:1 and in Depths 08:52:55 huh, didn't know that s2s can get anacondas 08:53:14 that would be because it cannot 08:53:23 I've done it. o_o; 08:53:31 you're playing an old version 08:55:33 I realize that Small Mammals did need nerfing from the ORIGINAL version (with it being all 5+ per summon, green and orange rats amoung them at high spellpower) but I think how far it's gotten down is a bit too far is all. 08:56:14 -!- Quashie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:56:36 <|amethyst> it seems to work relatively well on the first few dungeon levels 09:00:03 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:01:29 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:37 I guess. I just am of the mentality that all level 1 spells should be like Corona, s.butterflies, etc. weaker effect later, but still useful. 09:03:11 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:11 i think that corona is around as useful as mammals later on 09:04:32 Mammals never lose the ability to be a one-turn roadblock for 1 mp 09:04:52 They're more useful than any L1 conjuration for most characters in the late game. 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-42-gf7e6656: Remove Forest Zig floors 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7e6656abaa1 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-43-g9ed74c2: Move item quotes to the bottom of descriptions 10(75 minutes ago, 1 file, 18+ 19-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=9ed74c2132cf 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-44-g17ac71f: Improve description of slaying on non-randart rings 10(72 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=17ac71f2229c 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-45-ga62aeb6: Improve descriptions of artefact jewellery 10(59 minutes ago, 2 files, 94+ 23-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=a62aeb63063a 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-46-gbb6752c: Reduce the volume of Xom's noise effect, don't let silence affect it 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb6752c796fb 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-47-gb999a6f: Let Xom occasionally give stealth or make noise upon entering a new level 10(4 days ago, 4 files, 35+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b999a6f53cd2 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-48-g4899bd9: Make some Xom effects not affect monsters behind glass 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4899bd94471b 09:06:11 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-49-g4983731: Replace Xom mass inner flame with mass fireball/corona 10(2 days ago, 3 files, 60+ 18-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=4983731da66b 09:06:12 03MarvinPA02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14-b1-17-g7a75a2f: Improve description of slaying on non-randart rings 10(72 minutes ago, 1 file, 4+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7a75a2fdf39a 09:06:12 03MarvinPA02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14-b1-18-g1d76f69: Reduce the volume of Xom's noise effect, don't let silence affect it 10(5 days ago, 2 files, 7+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1d76f699fd07 09:06:12 03MarvinPA02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14-b1-19-g32f0dfe: Make some Xom effects not affect monsters behind glass 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 5-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=32f0dfe4b656 09:06:32 <|amethyst> Confusing Touch is probably the L1 spell that most needs nerfed currently. And butterflies. 09:06:32 Corona's to-hit bonus becomes less noticible, but you can use it to prevent enemies from becoming invisible if you don't have SInv. 09:06:34 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:06:51 confusing touch could just be not level 1 09:07:05 Same with butterflies really. 09:07:12 Apportation and Butterflies are the best late-game L1 spells 09:07:16 MarvinPA: time to update my rcfile! 09:07:21 <|amethyst> oh, right, apportation 09:07:24 AnimSkele too. 09:07:30 oh, yes, AnimSkele 09:07:33 that too 09:07:34 <|amethyst> pretty much that whole book 09:07:38 yup 09:07:59 what do you really use apportation for? 09:08:18 Have you ever wanted to pick up an item you weren't standing on? 09:08:45 Especially a well-guarded item like a rune? 09:08:50 Not so badly that I'd spend two turns getting it in battle... 09:09:13 a) You don't have to use apportation while in a battle. 09:09:14 "Feel my power!" 09:09:42 b) read tele, apport, pick up is way safer in a dangerous battle than most other courses of action that could lead to getting the contested item 09:10:34 If you've heard of someone "ninjaing" a rune, it's safe to bet that they were using apportation to do it 09:10:39 Do people still apport the OoZ? 09:10:48 Only terrible people, because it makes a huge amount of noise 09:11:02 huh? 09:11:03 (well, aside from directly out of the Orb Chamber, I think 09:11:12 -!- DrKe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:11:17 but not repeated apports to drag it across the level 09:11:26 MarvinPA: don't have to have a force_more on inner flame, i mean 09:11:41 I ninjaed a few on one of my runs...Shatter/Passwall/Invis though. 09:11:47 oh i meant that at "only terrible people" apporting the orb 09:12:10 invis seems not very useful with shatter 09:12:25 wheals: are you sure you won't still want one on mass corona though?! 09:12:39 And I misspoke: apporting the orb out of the rune chamber is reasonable. I was thinking of the silly repeated-apport "trick" 09:12:55 Trick? 09:13:10 Well, even then, if you fully clear the chamber, at that point it is more optional to apport it to the stairs 09:13:16 *optimal 09:13:21 still very optional, of course 09:13:41 It makes enough noise to do that that any remaining enemies will track you down as you do it 09:13:50 "fully clear the chamber" 09:13:58 Also newly spawned enemies 09:14:06 right, which aren't a concern? 09:14:11 <|amethyst> there are going to be a lot more of those after picking up the orb 09:14:12 but the ones that spawn when you pick up the orb are 09:14:20 Why apport it to the stairs? 09:14:27 wheals it was a multi-buff character. Spawned as a transmuter; used everything together...swiftness, haste, statue, cond. shield...*shrug* 09:14:29 because the spawns start when you pick it up 09:14:36 which might include the turn you pick it up 09:14:43 The stuff the orb spawns tend to be dangerous than the Zot:5 spawns 09:14:46 oh, i guess having lots of contam can be useful 09:14:49 er less dangerous 09:15:13 zot:5 spawns are many times more rare, and I'm pretty sure the variance of the orb spawns is quite high 09:15:20 pan lords aren't in zot:5 spawns, for instance 09:15:21 the variance is definitely high 09:15:24 nor cerebov 09:15:25 white imp versus pan lords 09:15:36 Cerebov can be spawned by the Orb? 09:15:42 yes, if you took his rune 09:15:45 and didn't kill him 09:16:06 MarvinPA: wait wow xom inner flame was a good act? 09:16:16 random zot:5 spawns are really a non-issue, but it's true that multiple apports in a not-cleared chamber is likely to be more trouble than it's worth 09:16:26 yes, explosions are helpful! 09:16:45 Well, maybe I'm wrong about that. It's something that seemed to be concensus among very good players, and it made sense to me, but perhaps I am mistaken. Maybe they are operating under the premise that you shouldn't kill all the Zot:5 chamber monsters. 09:17:00 yeah, and it's generally good policy not to fully clear it 09:17:05 but for extended chars, that's common to do 09:17:06 It's certainly true that the orb doesn't summon OoFs 09:17:24 or ancient liches 09:17:27 (IIRC) 09:17:35 well the risk of causing trouble is highest when you apport in the chamber 09:17:39 i attached a patch to 8261 a week or two ago https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8261 09:18:05 <|amethyst> yeah, once you've cleared both chambers, you've already put yourself at more unnecessary risk than you'll get from picking up the orb and walking out 09:18:14 put up a new one just now, made in ubuntu so it actually applies >.> 09:18:29 I like the git am command 09:19:20 |amethyst: yes, but that risk is already past; strictly speaking, it's "optimal" to apport it to the stairs 09:19:20 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:52 makes you look like a nerd, and people make fun of you, which is suitable punishment 09:20:28 people in tiles chat can be so cruel 09:20:31 re: apportation; I don't really like it as a spell, and particularly not as a level 1 spell 09:20:34 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:21:00 maybe replace it as a higher level mass apport? 09:21:08 mass apport comes up a lot as a request 09:21:34 gammafunk: that's not optimal at all 09:21:34 ontoclasm: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:21:53 zot:5 random spawns are way worse than orbrun spawns generally 09:21:53 ontoclasm: we're talking once zot:5 is fully cleared 09:21:57 it is mainly a joke request due to holding down an apportation macro in zigs, probably not something that really needs to exist 09:22:12 and you'll be eating them for like 5 times as long 09:22:21 as if you'd just grabbed it and walked 09:22:26 ontoclasm: I'm not sure how often you think zot:5 spawns occur 09:22:35 but it's not at all often compared to orb spawns 09:22:41 it's certainly true that a lot of players don't understand why apportation is good and instead see it as a "magic bullet" kind of thing for ninjaing runes 09:22:46 1 orb of fire is probably worse than like 300 turns of orb run spawns 09:23:00 unless you pull a crazy panlord 09:23:15 ontoclasm: I think that would only be true for some kind of build that couldn't kill oof 09:23:21 hd:30 fireball/bolt of fire panlord 09:23:30 mmm 09:23:35 orbs of fire are probably the most overrated threat in crawl 09:24:03 crate: what do you think is the most dangerous zot:5 enemy? 09:24:03 well, maybe hydra 09:24:05 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:24:08 moth of wrath!!! 09:24:11 haha 09:24:18 !lg . place=zot:5 09:24:19 4. crate the Imperceptible (L27 HuEn of Kikubaaqudgha), mangled by an Orb Guardian on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2012-11-13 06:38:41, with 507146 points after 88529 turns and 4:04:56. 09:24:23 !lg . place=zot:5 s=killer 09:24:24 4 games for crate (place=zot:5): 4x an Orb Guardian 09:24:25 see 09:24:28 4 moth of wrath deaths 09:24:33 makes sense 09:24:38 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:24:46 <|amethyst> !lg * place=zot:5 s=killer 09:24:47 2464 games for * (place=zot:5): 646x an orb of fire, 620x an Orb Guardian, 298x an ancient lich, 157x an electric golem, 62x a Killer Klown, 56x a storm dragon, 42x, 40x an Executioner, 32x a Balrug, 25x an Ice Fiend, 25x a tentacled monstrosity, 20x a hellion, 20x a golden dragon, 18x a white draconian, 17x a black draconian, 17x an ice dragon, 15x a Brimstone Fiend, 15x a Hell Sentinel, 13x a sh... 09:24:57 orbs do a lot of damage but they do it in a predictable fashion 09:25:04 and such wonderful symmetry in that you can find a moth of wrath that you could even fight on d:1 with that one vualt 09:25:07 *vault 09:25:09 moths of wrath are irregularly placed and make things go super bad in a hurry 09:25:35 yeah they really do add variance to a fight 09:25:48 probably most of my zot chars are more scared of aliches than orbs of fire also but that's because aliches have huge variance 09:26:20 but you would agree that oof is a pretty good enemy, I'm sure 09:26:29 sure 09:26:35 i just think that players exaggerate how dangerous they are :p 09:26:53 they are still more dangrous than a single orange demon 09:26:58 or a pack of hell hounds 09:27:02 orbrun spawns are pretty dangerous now ime 09:27:26 yeah, i guess they've been buffed 09:27:38 it's certainly true that one orb of fire is scarier than one orbrun spawn, but that's not a sensible comparison 09:27:46 since it takes far less time for one orbrun spawn to generate 09:28:01 right, I mean using the same logic one nasty pan lord is a lot worse than a few draconians 09:28:20 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:30:59 orbs of fire are basically the executioners of zot, i guess ... they're a thing you have to be able to handle but then if you can they're unlikely to kill you 09:31:01 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:31:29 (of course this makes me wonder why the same playerbase claims executioners in pan are not dangerous) 09:39:37 -!- DrKe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:43:37 -!- DrKe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:47:25 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 09:47:41 I rarely go to places w/ Executioners unless I have enough AC to make them relatively safe. 09:47:48 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 09:47:51 The exception being unlucky abyssings 09:49:48 -!- asdu has quit 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* (recent place=zot:5): 197x an orb of fire, 171x an ancient lich, 161x an Orb Guardian, 46x an electric golem, 18x a Killer Klown, 8x a curse toe, 8x a golden dragon, 6x a storm dragon, 5x, 5x a tentacled monstrosity, 4x a black draconian, 4x an Ice Fiend, 4x a shadow dragon, 3x a yellow draconian, 3x an ice dragon, 3x Tiamat, 3x a dragon, 3x a death cob, 3x a purple draconian scorc... 10:26:55 oof! 10:27:04 3x a death cob 10:27:20 -!- Thalfon has quit [Client Quit] 10:27:35 looks like death cobs and tiamat are roughly as dangerous as each other 10:28:32 !lg * goodplayer 10:28:33 No keyword 'goodplayer' 10:28:38 wish that were a thing 10:31:15 -!- Morg0th has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:32:42 1fight death cob v Tiamat 10:32:49 -!- zxc232 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:32:55 !lg * recent zot:5 ikiller=death_cob x=kmap 10:32:56 3. [killermap=] HammerFall the Slayer (L22 MiBe of Trog), slain by a death cob on Zot:5 (hall_of_Zot) on 2013-12-25 22:20:35, with 462667 points after 28990 turns and 4:32:50. 10:32:59 !lg * recent zot:5 ikiller=death_cob s=kmap 10:33:00 3 games for * (recent zot:5 ikiller=death_cob): 3x 10:34:23 -!- Venter has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34:57 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:38:01 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:38:21 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:38:58 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:39:11 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:16 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:54 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:34 gammafunk: !lg * @goodplayer works now (it took me a while to set it up because freenode hates me at the moment) 10:46:03 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50:02 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:57 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:57:41 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:01:47 !mapkills cob 11:01:48 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:53 4. PrayFeather the Severer (L15 HOFi of Beogh), mangled by a naga mage (a +0,+0 great mace) on Snake:4 (nicolae_cobra_stairs) on 2013-12-22 10:38:03, with 68897 points after 36530 turns and 3:12:21. 11:03:04 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:03:04 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:12 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 11:03:24 -!- rast- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:36 !lg * @goodplayer 11:03:37 No games for * (@goodplayer). 11:03:39 hm 11:03:44 !lg goodplayers 11:03:46 492873. 4tharraofdagon the Cloud Mage (L12 HaAE of Sif Muna), slain by a wolf on Lair:5 on 2014-04-03 15:45:44, with 14504 points after 7014 turns and 1:04:08. 11:03:53 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:00 !chars goodplayers nostalgia 11:04:01 256 games for goodplayers (nostalgia): 19x MDPa, 14x SpPa, 13x MiFi, 10x GERe, 8x HDPa, 8x OMCj, 7x MDBe, 7x GnEE, 7x OMFE, 7x MuCK, 6x GnTh, 6x OgRe, 6x SpCK, 6x MDCK, 6x GnAr, 5x OMSu, 5x OMRe, 5x OMIE, 4x MDFi, 4x TeSu, 4x GEAE, 4x SETm, 4x ElBe, 3x OMCr, 3x MfCr, 3x HDAr, 3x OMAE, 3x GESu, 3x SESt, 3x HDBe, 2x HERe, 2x ElRe, 2x OMAM, 2x GnCr, 2x OMWz, 2x DsFE, 2x GnAs, 2x HDCr, 2x GEWz, 2x VSS... 11:04:04 !apt ho 11:04:05 and so on 11:04:05 HO: Fighting: 2, Short: 0, Long: 1, Axes: 3!, Maces: 1, Polearms: 1, Staves: -1, Slings: -1, Bows: -1, Xbows: -1, Throw: 0, Armour: 1, Dodge: -2, Stealth: -1, Shields: 1, UC: 1!, Splcast: -3, Conj: 0, Hexes: 0, Charms: -1, Summ: 0, Nec: 0, Tloc: -2, Tmut: -3, Fire: 1, Ice: -1, Air: -2, Earth: 0, Poison: -1, Inv: 3!, Evo: 1, Exp: 0, HP: 1, MP: 0 11:04:09 mountain dwarf dominance 11:04:10 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 11:04:14 clearly 11:04:15 sppa power combo 11:04:22 v high level 11:04:29 stab those demons 11:04:31 !lg goodplayers ikiller=death_cob 11:04:32 5. nfogravity the Warrior (L24 TeDK of Yredelemnul), mangled by a death cob on Zot:2 on 2012-11-26 18:47:21, with 428023 points after 119595 turns and 6:42:26. 11:04:37 hm 11:04:42 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.14-b1-19-g32f0dfe 11:04:53 -!- rast-- has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:57 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:05:06 -!- rast-- is now known as rast 11:05:19 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:38 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:06:02 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:06:23 -!- radinms has quit [] 11:06:53 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:08:25 -!- rast- has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:13:26 sorry, !lg * @goodplayers 11:13:39 or !lg goodplayers ... 11:18:28 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:18:46 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:42 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:21:49 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:50 !kw goodplayers 11:24:51 No keyword 'goodplayers' 11:25:09 !lg goodplayers place=zot:5 s=ikiller 11:25:10 1049 games for goodplayers (place=zot:5): 307x an Orb Guardian, 226x an orb of fire, 196x an ancient lich, 68x an electric golem, 31x a Killer Klown, 24x a storm dragon, 16x, 11x a tentacled monstrosity, 10x a white draconian, 9x a shadow dragon, 8x a black draconian, 7x an Executioner, 6x a golden dragon, 6x a pale draconian, 5x a green draconian, 4x a ghost moth, 4x a purple draconian, 4x a red ... 11:26:04 would be neat if we could query for when the killer was e.g. berserked 11:28:08 -!- notcluie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:31:03 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:36:29 naga warlord (10N) | Spd: 10 (move: 140%) | HD: 10 | HP: 130 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 28, 603(constrict) | 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, fighter, see invisible, !sil, 07vault | Res: 06magic(80), 03poison | Chunks: 09poison | XP: 1098 | Sp: spit poison (d16) | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 11:36:29 %??naga warlord 11:36:41 Are those really new or something? I've never seen one. 11:37:30 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:37:52 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:27 <|amethyst> !source arena_sprint_init_boss_table 11:38:29 Couldn't find arena_sprint_init_boss_table in the Crawl source tree 11:38:37 <|amethyst> !source dat/des/arena_sprint.des 11:38:38 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/dat/des/arena_sprint.des;hb=HEAD 11:40:04 -!- minmay has joined ##crawl-dev 11:40:13 -!- sanka has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:41:37 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:41:41 !killratio xtahua 11:41:43 xtahua wins 1.408% of battles. 11:42:07 higher than I expected 11:43:33 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0a1/20140401030203]] 11:44:44 -!- Akien has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:53 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 11:53:08 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:56:44 -!- Ququman has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:42 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:49 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:03:34 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:17 sinusoidal (L1 TeCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:1) 12:05:18 Mogri (L9 GrFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:7) 12:05:19 Kalir (L15 DsEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Spider:3) 12:05:19 pigah (L7 OpWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (D:5) 12:05:29 PoopBridge (L12 VSAs) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 212: Socket write error: Resource temporarily unavailable (Lair:2) 12:06:33 Stable (0.14) branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.14-b1-19-g32f0dfe 12:06:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:10:11 -!- UncertainKitten has quit [Quit: Connection reset by pier.] 12:10:34 !lg . ikiller=uniq s=ikiller 12:10:35 87 games for gammafunk (ikiller=uniq): 12x Sigmund, 9x Blork the orc, 8x Ijyb, 5x Terence, 4x Joseph, 4x Agnes, 4x Eustachio, 4x Crazy Yiuf, 3x Nessos, 3x Grinder, 2x Jessica, 2x Grum, 2x Edmund, 2x Menkaure, 2x Azrael, Margery, Sonja, Nergalle, Aizul, Ilsuiw, Jorgrun, Duvessa, Maurice, Gastronok, Dowan, Boris, Mara, Fannar, Erica, Josephine, Prince Ribbit, Pikel, Nikola, Urug, Harold, Louise 12:11:29 agnes, you jerk 12:11:52 -!- Keanan has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:11:54 -!- Cedor has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:57 |amethyst or maybe elliptic (or anyone else) is there anything the servers need to do to prep for the tourney? 12:16:12 or if the server is serving 0.14 and greensnark has the sources for the milestones and logs, that's good enough? 12:17:28 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:37 -!- RZX has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:21:49 -!- Bcadren has quit [Quit: Life without danger is a waste of oxygen] 12:22:04 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.15-a0-51-g839f270 (34) 12:23:08 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:26:28 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:31:41 Tukima's Dance Weapon Disappears when Song of Slaying ends by CommanderKeen 12:36:56 johnstein: I think that's sufficient? ...so long as the server's running the final 0.14 release at tournament start (and I have rebuild access, so if the timing of that is an issue I have it covered). 12:39:23 -!- AreBrandon has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:40:09 -!- Vidiny has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:48 johnstein: 0.14 branch + accessible milestones/logfiles for it are all that are really necessary for the tournament, and having 0.14 rcfiles accessible is needed for people to be able to use that server to set up a tournament clan 12:41:20 (otherwise they have to go edit rcfiles on other servers) 12:41:43 so I think most of the servers should be fine for the tournament at this point 12:42:52 Tukima's Dance Weapon Disappears when Song of Slaying ends by CommanderKeen 12:42:53 !lg * v=0.14.0-b1 s=src 12:42:53 2744 games for * (v=0.14.0-b1): 1521x cao, 932x cszo, 132x clan, 117x ckr, 42x cbro 12:42:53 I guess CDO is the only server that isn't currently ready 12:45:48 -!- raskol` has quit [Client Quit] 12:45:55 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:51:31 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:31 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:52:42 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:42 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 12:52:42 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 12:53:08 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:59:59 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:14 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:01:03 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:01:09 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:44 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:00 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:05:03 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:37 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:42 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:53 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 13:13:51 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:13:59 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:14:58 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:16:57 -!- Piginabag has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:19:32 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:37 elliptic: CDO is very niche right now anyway :) 13:20:05 -!- CampinSam has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20:20 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:20:57 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:22:43 the trunk is very outdated too, btw 13:23:05 -!- raskol` has quit [Quit: quit] 13:23:57 it's a lot less laggy than cln for me, i would play there if i could usually 13:23:59 grunt elliptic Ty 13:24:44 * Grunt zaps a wand. cln's connection seems to speed up. 13:24:48 cszo is usually better than cln for me even 13:24:57 are you in europe 13:25:03 yeah 13:25:11 weird 13:25:39 I keep thinking I want to move my VPS from Atlanta to Seattle since I live here. but it's probably not a big deal 13:25:56 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:57 cln seems to be really noticeably slow when loading levels occasionally, rather than just being slow overall 13:27:09 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:27:10 unrelatedly: does amulet of faith actually affect wrath frequency? also did it ever actually affect wrath frequency? 13:27:13 -!- xFleury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:27:21 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:14 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:30:00 it sort of looks like no to both and it is just a thing that everyone said was true and believed or something 13:30:31 No and no, respectively. 13:30:34 * xFleury thinks Nostalgia branch should a little notice on CSZO "Nostalgia (expires 5/7/14)" for when it's getting taken down. 13:30:50 also it increases your chances to be lifesaved 13:30:52 who knew 13:30:58 I combed through the wrath code at length to determine if the latter was ever true, but found no sign of it. 13:31:24 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:32 (Mainly I wanted to see how to preserve it if desired for the xp wrath change, but there was nothing to preserve!) 13:31:41 oh, is nostalgia being taken offline then? 13:31:50 ??tournament 13:31:50 tournament[1/4]: The 0.14 tournament will run from 20:00 UTC Apr 11 to 20:00 UTC Apr 27. Preliminary rules: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.14/ 13:31:57 Who knows. 13:32:10 At the very least it'll probably go away to make room for new experimental branches. 13:32:25 (There will probably be a whole flood of things to be tested after the tournament ends...) 13:32:45 oh no, have to finish my nostalgia game soon 13:32:45 simmarine: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:32:57 hundreds of removals to be enjoyed by all 13:33:02 !lg . nostalgia 13:33:03 4. gammafunk the Caller (L7 GESu of Sif Muna), mangled by Duvessa (a +1,+2 short sword of draining) on D:6 on 2014-04-01 12:48:20, with 701 points after 2656 turns and 0:26:12. 13:33:05 * Grunt removes wheals. 13:33:08 %dump MDFi 13:33:08 http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/MDFi/MDFi.txt 13:33:12 I can't bear to play it again after that duvessa death 13:33:14 I have to finish that game still.. :S 13:33:58 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:34:20 -!- gammafunk has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:34:50 hmm well learndb amulet of faith entry is accurate somehow, clearly replace ingame descs with learndb 13:35:14 MarvinPA: because I fixed it!!! 13:35:19 aha 13:35:26 i was pretty sure it used to say stuff about penance yeah 13:35:33 you should have fixed ingame instead! 13:35:54 i'm dreading reading the manual for 0.14 13:36:10 also someone should play through tutorial and see if it makes sense still i guess 13:37:07 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:24 !lg * CBRO nostalgia 13:40:25 7. cbrotest the Skirmisher (L2 OgBe of Lugafu), slain by a hobgoblin (a +0,+0 club) on D:1 on 2014-04-02 13:26:07, with 39 points after 377 turns and 0:00:30. 13:40:44 yay it's connected 13:40:55 -!- Keanan has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:50 -!- zxc232 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:45:32 MarvinPA: the amulet of faith description is still accurate, if a little bit ambiguous - doing actions that dock piety / incur penance do scale the piety loss / penance value like piety gain. 13:46:01 mmm, i wouldn't call that "less likely to forgive" though 13:46:28 maybe "will take more notice of" 13:46:41 (incidentally apart from line wrapping / endings that description has been completely untouched since its first creation) 13:46:50 heh 13:48:34 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 13:49:37 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:59 lazy question: can you set something like {:if you.skill("spellcasting") < 10 then / language=grunt / :end} and have it work (only after save/load, but that's fine)? 13:51:10 rchandra: sure! 13:51:39 rchandra: I have a very elaborate thing in my rcfile of similar character (not originally mine, but I did improve it!) 13:51:49 &rc grunt 13:51:51 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/SGrunt.rc 13:52:18 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:52:40 -!- BigBluFrog has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:53:17 changing the player glyph to exactly match monsters seems dangerous 13:53:45 liea 13:53:47 *lies 13:57:44 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:01:54 I do have the player highlighted! 14:07:09 thanks, Grunt 14:07:14 -!- gnum has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:07:30 &rc rchandra 14:07:32 http://crawl.berotato.org/crawl/rcfiles/crawl-git/hyperrchandra.rc 14:07:46 I haven't put it in anything yet 14:07:54 <_< 14:12:11 -!- ldf has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:25 -!- st_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:50 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:24 03MarvinPA02 07* 0.15-a0-52-g31fe192: Improve amulet of faith description 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=31fe1927d477 14:24:26 03MarvinPA02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14-b1-20-g5930472: Improve amulet of faith description 10(35 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 2-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5930472bcee8 14:24:28 -!- Cheibriados has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:25:38 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:38 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 14:25:38 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:25:39 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: Check out new European server at ??clan! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, ??clan, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious. 14:27:01 -!- Z_LAMP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:32 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:27:55 so when the new version is in beta, do most updates like that need to be pushed to both the release branch and the trunk? 14:28:32 that is, is it annoying duplicated work? or just cherry picking that commit from one branch and applying it to the other? 14:28:43 even after release you'll see stuff like that sent to both. but it is a cherry pick 14:29:27 how often would a fix like that be applied to the previous release? 14:29:46 I don't remember seeing any 0.12 updates recently 14:29:52 so I assume it's very rare 14:29:56 usually it's obvious bugs or things like descriptions that don't change much 14:30:02 it'd be 0.13 14:30:11 %git stone_soup-0.13 14:30:14 07Grunt02 {|amethyst} * 0.13.1-37-gb6f4c13: Increase limit for showing tiles affected by spells (gammafunk, |amethyst). 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 7+ 6-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b6f4c1377cfd 14:30:43 0.12 wouldn't have gotten much in the way of updates after 0.13 became stable 14:30:56 ok 14:31:27 %git stone_soup-0.12 14:31:27 07kilobyte02 * 0.12.3: Revert accidental submodule changes. 10(6 months ago, 8 files, 8+ 8-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=1000ab5f67fb 14:31:35 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:56 6 months sounds about right 14:34:23 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:35:26 ...speaking of 0.13.2, we should roll that out at some point <_< 14:36:46 -!- Foamed has quit [Quit: Heading to bed.] 14:38:10 -!- Bloax has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:51 what's so special about 13.2? 14:40:12 just that we have several bug fixes that never made it out of git to a released update 14:40:31 Yes. 14:40:49 I would feel bad if the final release of 0.14.0 contained references in the changelog to an unreleased 0.13.2 >_> 14:41:03 Also doing the point release will help us figure out the particulars of the release process. 14:41:11 ehehe 14:41:34 (Mainly - if I'm building things and want them to be available, what do I do with them? Maybe I need to get sf project access from somewhere?) 14:43:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:23 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:55:03 MarvinPA: when I first read the amulet of faith description (and for like 2 years after) I thought it meant that all piety costs were also multiplied 14:55:58 -!- reaverb has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:32 Is it fine if I close 8097 now that 0.14's branched? 14:59:07 !bug 8097 14:59:07 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8097 15:00:12 what does that issue have to do with 0.14 being branched? 15:00:48 elliptic: Alright, I guess what I mean to say was "all tile requests appear to have been fulfilled." 15:01:08 Since tiles are one of the things which were holding up 0.14 branching IIRC. 15:01:23 well, I don't see any follow-up to grunt's comment there "I'll let either you or someone else (ontoclasm?) figure out what to do with the grand avatar, and then I can close this." 15:01:42 -!- Keanan has left ##crawl-dev 15:01:59 I have no idea whether that was dealt with but presumably you should let Grunt determine that 15:02:06 elliptic: Ok, that's fine. This is why I asked. 15:02:15 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 15:02:32 !tell Grunt Is there anything in #8097 which still needs to be handled or can it be closed? 15:02:33 reaverb: OK, I'll let grunt know. 15:03:39 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:53 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:59 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:15 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:01 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:06:18 -!- clouded_ is now known as st_ 15:07:25 elliptic, reaverb: technically a grand avatar tile, but I'm not sure if that's actively being worked on. 15:07:42 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:08:15 -!- Nivim has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:08:55 Grunt: If you still want the grand avatar tile request on mantis mayb it would be good to spin it off onto a seperate issue. 15:09:48 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:09:48 -!- Reign_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:13:55 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:19:08 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:19:09 i can mess with it right now 15:19:19 i mean, the one he gave seems fine 15:19:46 ontoclasm: Thanks, that sounds great. 15:19:59 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:20:46 sorry, i forgot that was there 15:20:49 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:22:15 ontoclasm: Hopefully I'll be able to pull off what I want for Dowan. 15:22:37 sexyelftiles 15:22:41 -!- pwnmonkey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:23:45 which is something as silly as merging https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/kek2.png the priest and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/kek.png the front singer and giving him a book to recite from instead of a gun 15:28:33 -!- Stout has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:31:03 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-53-g5e01d95: Grand Avatar tile (roctavian, 8097) 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e01d95c36dc 15:32:05 -!- UncertainKitten has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:04 ontoclasm: do you know how the cherry pick that commit into 0.14? 15:39:15 -!- roctavian has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:27 wow sorry about my half-baked grand avatar 15:39:36 that's one for the ages 15:40:40 roctavian: I think it's because a "grand avatar" is really hard to express in images. 15:41:59 i had the concept (many-armed like a hindu deity and like the earlier tile) but the details are hard to cram in 15:45:34 uh 15:45:40 roctavian: it looks good 15:45:45 That's more or less what I was aiming for, as you probably guessed. 15:45:48 interesting interaction with wyrmbane and spectral weapon when your spectral weapon slays dragons 15:46:03 i mean, we can always improve it later if somebody wants to 15:46:13 yeah, that's what i'll aim to do 15:46:17 !tell Basil Are you going to push #8021? (New Spell: Singularity). It looks awesome. 15:46:18 reaverb: OK, I'll let basil know. 15:46:18 reaverb: yeah i think i remember how to cherry-pick 15:46:22 -!- Bloaxor has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:29 it's not a problematic tile, just one that could be better 15:47:04 well while we're on it: bloax, if you ever want to revise that grand avatar tile that went in, go nuts 15:49:08 -!- Bloax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:50:03 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50:49 oh! also i keep forgetting to weigh in on the weapon tiles since racial weapon cutting 15:51:43 i think that we should use the old elven short sword tiles for all short swords -- the shape distinguishes them from daggers and from long blades better than the standard short sword tile 15:52:02 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:52:11 -!- Quashie has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:52:22 roctavian: I like that idea. 15:52:50 also maybe the orcish hand axes instead of the vanilla ones 15:53:16 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:56:02 simmarine: what's the interaction? 15:56:23 vanilla glaives look a lot like spears, and the orcish ones have a more distinct silhouette, so that might be a good variant to use 15:57:11 maybe executioner axe could be one of the racial variants so it has a more distinct shape as well, but i don't feel strongly about it 16:00:01 -!- ystael has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00:59 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 16:02:34 %git 5e01d95c 16:02:35 07ontoclasm02 * 0.15-a0-53-g5e01d95: Grand Avatar tile (roctavian, 8097) 10(35 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e01d95c36dc 16:07:12 03ontoclasm02 07[stone_soup-0.14] * 0.14-b1-21-g62f6471: Grand Avatar tile (roctavian, 8097) 10(40 minutes ago, 2 files, 2+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=62f64719e6c0 16:07:14 So long as it isn't the Dwarven variant; they don't really follow the "blue" is magical trend very well. 16:07:14 xFleury: that can be fixed 16:08:10 Do racial tiles have artifact versions? Bad Wiki says they don't, but it's Bad wiki. 16:08:19 they do not 16:08:30 mainly because artifacts couldn't be racial 16:08:40 well what are grand avatars 16:08:40 -!- LexAckson has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:10:23 however, that could also be fixed 16:11:29 -!- iasov has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 16:12:38 they could 16:12:41 rip arga 16:12:50 well, it didn't actually die or anything 16:13:07 okay fine, randarts couldn't be racial 16:13:11 but randarts never were, yeah 16:13:29 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 16:14:36 i like that there are like 5 iterations of exec axes 16:14:43 i guess we can't decide what they should look like 16:15:31 I like that too 16:15:33 i think almost all of them were by the same guy 16:15:41 dd or whitenoise, i mix them up 16:16:16 roctavian: Mixing them up is rather hilarious given their mantis comments. 16:17:29 i feel like i should use the hand xbow tiles to replace the curent xbows 16:17:35 maybe 16:17:52 my buddy's relaybot twitter maker finally had a "win crawl" test case. 16:17:54 https://twitter.com/octotrog/status/451829831349850112 16:18:43 good twitter 16:19:05 it will be fun during the tournament 16:19:16 getting tweet after tweet of people dying 16:19:30 dunno how long it will remain fun 16:19:32 reaverb: one of the reasons i mix them up is precisely because they hated each other 16:19:56 as far as i was concerned they both did nice work, but then suddenly discovered each other like a snake and mongoose 16:20:24 roctavian: Hmm. Their tone is often similar not that I think about it. 16:21:48 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:56 -!- DrinkMachine has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:00 -!- LexAckson has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:12 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 16:28:33 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:29:04 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:30:30 -!- hurdos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:33:08 -!- trystero_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:35:43 roctavian: i actually kinda liked the exec axe we had before 16:35:50 with the bizarre 8-shaped head 16:36:06 yeah, i like that one 16:36:12 -!- Amy|Sonata has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:36:12 -!- Vidiny has quit [] 16:36:21 i'd have to dredge it up out of the git history 16:36:32 I'm just happy orcish battleaxes are no longer a thing. 16:36:37 Since they looked 90% like exec axes. 16:36:41 i can't remember what they looked like 16:36:50 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=593a4386a8f1 16:36:51 ? 16:36:53 they had flat tops 16:36:54 (or even older) 16:36:59 (probably even older) 16:37:08 not the doll ones 16:37:14 older than that 16:37:17 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:37:19 -!- Scytale has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:24 those you linked are still current 16:37:25 like 2 years older 16:37:40 let's see 16:37:43 -!- notcluie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:38:01 -!- DrinkMachine has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:38:31 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=7c20da9 16:38:32 ? 16:39:10 that was where they got overwritten i think 16:39:21 got it 16:39:25 http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/rltiles/item/weapon/executioner_axe1.png;hb=fea4fc75c954107719b5eb97255bad0a08add50f 16:39:52 they could maybe be cleaned up but the shape is nice 16:40:33 fr HEXECUTIONER's axe 16:40:37 mmm 16:40:38 (the real hex enhancer) 16:41:10 also here's a hint 16:41:17 if you're gonna draw complicated tiles 16:41:25 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/DuvessaBig.png it's usually a good idea to do them big first 16:42:18 -!- notcluie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:43:48 -!- LexAckson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:44:27 -!- Tux[Qyou] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:29 -!- ZRN_ is now known as ZRN 16:48:41 -!- Cedor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:51:38 -!- johlstei__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:51:45 i hadn't realized 16:51:55 but the elven short swords had hilariously short handles 16:52:17 -!- Nivim has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:05 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:56:14 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:58:33 -!- jday_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:58:50 -!- Chris7 has quit [] 16:59:48 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:51 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:05 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:29 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:20 -!- Ququman has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:09:44 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:19:03 Unstable branch on crawl.lantea.net updated to: 0.15-a0-53-g5e01d95 (34) 17:20:09 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:54 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24:51 -!- WWWYZZERDD has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:25:22 -!- Garhauk has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:25:23 -!- Rewans has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:25:58 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:26:24 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:32:58 -!- iasov has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:36:32 -!- johlstei has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:03 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:16 -!- MaxFrost has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:49:09 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-54-g8a82c96: Use some old racial weapon tiles for normal weapons 10(38 minutes ago, 18 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8a82c96f3c8a 17:49:09 03ontoclasm02 07* 0.15-a0-55-g79b3258: Old-school exec axe tiles 10(50 seconds ago, 3 files, 0+ 0-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=79b3258f0283 17:49:16 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49:49 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:49:49 -!- Eonwe1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:51:33 ontoclasm: <3 17:52:50 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:18 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:22 !seen dpeg 17:53:23 I last saw dpeg at Thu Apr 3 14:24:05 2014 UTC (8h 29m 17s ago) quitting, saying 'Quit: Lost terminal'. 17:53:23 -!- nonethousand has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:53:35 axez 17:53:36 Grunt: I hear you'll !abyss me if I push features to trunk? 17:53:42 !abyss bh 17:53:42 Grunt casts a spell. bh is devoured by a tear in reality! 17:53:45 -!- ystael has quit [Client Quit] 17:53:45 :( 17:53:50 No, I'll abyss you for even asking. :b 17:54:15 bh: Yeah, generally wait until after the tourney. 17:54:27 PS: It occurs to me toruney time is the perfect time for refactoring. 17:54:38 reaverb: make it so 17:54:40 I want players to help us iron bugs out of 0.14 so that we don't have to scramble to fix Huge Bugs in the first day or two. 17:55:00 (0.14 is huge! That means it has huge bugs!!!) 17:55:08 RIP AND DEBUG 17:58:34 -!- Netmonmatt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:58:46 eyeroll 17:58:56 Grunt: we should unshackle ourselves from this release cycle tyranny 17:59:02 A rolling eye comes into view. 17:59:06 next version should be 0.20140901 18:02:02 -!- debo has joined ##crawl-dev 18:03:08 -!- notclie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:04:06 -!- iasov has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 18:04:16 -!- Akien has quit [Quit: Quitte] 18:05:32 * ontoclasm hands Grunt an Executioner's Debugger. 18:05:57 !send ontoclasm a BATTLEBUG 18:05:57 Sending a BATTLEBUG to ontoclasm. 18:06:00 how long could it possibly take to clone crawl in a new codebase? 18:10:07 a day, day and a half? 18:14:05 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 18:17:41 -!- Staplefun has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:18:08 bh: What excatly do you mean by that? 18:18:19 bh: Are you talking about rewriting Crawl? 18:18:25 reaverb: yes, I'm joking 18:18:32 bh: ah 18:18:36 yes, even he would take two days at least 18:18:39 maybe even four 18:18:44 ??pcrawl 18:18:45 pcrawl[1/3]: fix default ^x behavior, look at traveling on magic mapped floors, inscribe dig wands zapped by unseen monsters with {tried}, toggle to view excluded squares in-game, lua function to detect sprint map, fix unique names in terse item inscriptions, fix experience potion bug on mac 18:18:52 ??pcrawl[2 18:18:52 pcrawl[2/3]: learn lua by doing this for hangedman: non-constant, depth-adjustable stuff for the aut in the lua timer in the pastie see {gauntlet[2]}, figure out how to make walls appear instead of disappear on a timer 18:19:17 er 18:19:19 ??fcrawl 18:19:20 fcrawl[1/5]: http://bpaste.net/raw/0mfJJgUDZ89kDH6gMIT0/ 18:19:48 -!- Reign_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:20:59 new short sword is... something 18:21:08 wow, there were 6 hammer tiles at one point? 18:21:11 new old 18:21:23 that is quite something 18:21:31 other changes are good tho 18:22:18 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:40 MarvinPA: so many great commits, yay! Many thanks!! 18:26:01 Are SysEnv stored in the Support files. (i.e, not in Crawl's directory?) 18:30:18 -!- Xenobreeder_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:30:58 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31:44 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: CADENZA-CLASS CLOCKWORK KNIGHT--OPERATION TERMINATED] 18:34:29 -!- mizu_no_oto has quit [Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"]] 18:35:34 -!- ZRN has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:59 -!- ldf has quit [Quit: ldf] 18:37:34 -!- ackack has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:46:06 ontoclasm: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leldowan.png hahaha 18:46:48 totallyaguy.png 18:49:23 -!- Moanerette has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:50:53 !send dpeg commits 18:50:54 Sending commits to dpeg. 18:51:35 -!- casmith789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:54:25 -!- redmoss has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:54:49 * dpeg is an avid collector of commits. 18:55:50 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leldowan2.png right 18:56:28 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:57:37 !tell bh About that mail: we seem to have conflated two deaths. Do you recall what was supposed to go on? 18:57:37 dpeg: OK, I'll let bh know. 19:00:58 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:04 Hey guys 19:01:21 I’m having a problem launching a version of crawl I compiled myself 19:01:30 I’m on OSX Mavericks 19:01:31 -!- reaverb has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:01:35 and I get the following message 19:02:10 http://pastebin.com/fCLLzDx7 19:02:55 lobf: Is it consistently that message? 19:03:10 -!- Krakhan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:27 -!- Krakhan has quit [Changing host] 19:03:47 yup 19:03:49 everything I try 19:04:02 To be specific: is it consistently that file that it refers to? 19:04:04 try cd /Applications/ 19:04:07 then crawl 19:04:08 yes, it is 19:04:30 navigate to the crawl executable before launching crawl 19:04:37 ok 19:04:39 hold up 19:04:57 okay I did cd Applications 19:05:07 how do I navigate to a file though? 19:05:20 ./crawl 19:05:20 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:21 -!- just_learnin has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:05:27 oh ok 19:05:45 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 19:05:46 hm, no such file or directory again 19:05:53 How did you build Crawl? 19:06:14 like this: 19:06:15 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8462&p=114701#p114701 19:06:16 -!- HellTiger_ has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 19:06:45 hm 19:06:50 "no such file or directory" is different than "cannot find data file" 19:07:04 or did you mean its the same 19:07:07 xFleury: well, i’m doing two different things 19:07:16 I get cannot find data file when launching the executable 19:07:18 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:07:32 I get no such file or directory when tryin to cd into the executable via terminal 19:07:33 lobf, let me offer a slightly different take on the "make" line. 19:07:39 which I thought it what I was asked to do 19:07:40 oh, perhaps it's in ~/Applications/ 19:07:44 and not /Applications./ 19:07:51 what, my executable? 19:07:54 yah 19:07:59 if ./crawl is saying no such file 19:08:00 lobf, did you move the executable yourself, or? 19:08:06 it’s in ~/Applications 19:08:11 but I start in ~ 19:08:20 so cd Applications should take me to ~/Applications 19:08:43 Grunt: I did move it myself 19:08:50 from the folder where it was created 19:09:00 lobf: you have two options, as I see it. 19:09:06 The weird thing is is that I was running this a while ago, I closed it to update the source 19:09:09 and it started fucking up 19:09:10 One: run the file from directly where it was created. 19:09:23 Grunt: Tried running it from where it was created. Same error 19:09:29 Also, I copied it in the past and it worked 19:09:32 until I tried updating today 19:09:41 hmm 19:09:57 Do you have a crawl-ref/source/dat/defaults/autopickup_exceptions.txt 19:09:58 ? 19:10:21 I do 19:10:25 -!- HellTiger has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:10:26 Okay. 19:10:29 Option two: 19:10:41 make [...options as in thread...] DESTDIR=~/Applications/Crawl install 19:10:50 (where DESTDIR is some target directory of your choice) 19:10:56 wait what 19:10:58 ...and then go to the new directory and run the game from there 19:11:08 -!- tksquared has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:11:08 oh 19:11:31 what will that do? 19:11:58 It will copy all of the relevant data files and the executable to the directory you specify. 19:12:33 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:13:27 So like this? 19:13:28 make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y ~/DCSS=~/Applications/Crawl install 19:13:33 uh 19:13:35 Close, but: 19:13:39 DESTDIR=~/DCSS 19:13:40 is what you want 19:13:42 oh okay 19:14:21 make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y DESTDIR=~/DCSS=~/Applications/Crawl install 19:14:23 yeah? 19:14:37 make APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y DESTDIR=~/DCSS install 19:14:45 oops, i hit enter 19:14:51 what is that going to give me 19:15:03 oh dammit it’s gonna recompile everything again isn’t it 19:15:09 can I cance lthis? 19:15:09 cancel 19:15:20 Press ctrl-C 19:15:28 nice 19:15:29 okay 19:15:35 are you gonna be here in a half hour? 19:15:37 I need to drive him 19:15:39 home 19:15:41 i’m at work 19:15:45 gotta get the fuck outta here 19:15:47 ...probably? 19:15:59 okay I hope so 19:16:02 be here! 19:16:03 :) 19:16:10 Thanks, hopefully I’ll see you in a few 19:16:13 -!- lobf has quit [Quit: lobf] 19:16:51 "Tragedy struck in Scotsdale today as 24 year old identified as "lobf" lost control of his car going 214km/hour on the freeway." 19:17:10 214 km/h what 19:18:47 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:28 !seen mumra 19:19:28 I last saw mumra at Tue Mar 11 22:10:53 2014 UTC (3w 2d 2h 8m 35s ago) quitting, saying 'Read error: Connection reset by peer'. 19:21:05 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:23:04 -!- Watball has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23:15 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:23:45 rip mumra 19:23:48 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:23 -!- roctavian has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:25:38 -!- Hailley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:27:31 -!- PleasingFungus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:18 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 19:30:26 -!- xFleury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 19:31:18 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:33:52 I wonder if Vashnia should have a personality. 19:34:00 !killratio Vashnia 19:34:02 Vashnia wins 6.562% of battles. 19:34:12 still not as murderous as Lamia so maybe she'll stick around? 19:34:23 -!- mk83 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:36:33 PleasingFungus: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11432&p=160605#p160605 19:37:22 nooooooooo 19:37:52 "Lamia slithered out of her barding" 19:38:32 still far funnier than anything you could have expected from that thread, obv 19:42:47 -!- lobf has joined ##crawl-dev 19:44:40 ok 19:44:46 Grunt you here? 19:45:24 !lastseen grunt 19:45:37 lobf: NOPE 19:46:34 wut 19:47:02 heh 19:47:15 i’m trying recompiling in a new place 19:47:20 man, if i wrote any crawl fanfic it would involve orb mimics, i guarantee 19:47:21 if this doesn’t work I’m going to delete everything 19:47:26 !killratio lamia * 19:47:28 lamia wins 11.25% of battles. 19:47:38 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:48:08 so 19:48:14 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/leldowan2.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/n/crawl/Duvessa.png 19:48:18 thoughts 19:48:42 dang dowan is... busy 19:48:44 and metal 19:48:50 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/63152810/kek2.png 19:49:07 -!- ackack has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:11 ya I remember you sent that earlier. good inspiration. 19:49:33 I'm not very satisfied with how the hair came out. 19:50:01 dowan should have a mohawk 19:50:03 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:12 with that outfit 19:50:15 but then again it's pretty much impossible to make really long hair look good in such a detailed sprite 19:52:57 Zannick: mohawks are too punk and not metal enough 19:53:06 hm. should xtahua have a dumb jokey description, or just an allcaps version of his current one 19:53:17 fire dragon (03D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 12 | HP: 74-107 | AC/EV: 10/8 | Dam: 20, 13, 1307(trample) | fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(64), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | XP: 1072 | Sp: b.flame (3d24) | Sz: Huge | Int: animal. 19:53:17 %??fire dragon 19:53:18 Xtahua (05D) | Spd: 10 | HD: 19 | HP: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Dam: 35, 17, 2007(trample) | 10doors, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(177), 05fire++, 03poison, 12drown | Vul: 12cold | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 3799 | Sp: b.flame (3d38) | Sz: Huge | Int: normal. 19:53:18 %??xtahua 19:53:27 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: quit] 19:53:37 XTAHUA IS NOT GOOD WITH WORDS 19:53:45 also, should he have something that makes him actually distinct and interesting as an enemy 19:53:54 that's sort of a different question I guess. 19:54:01 he's a dragon who opens door 19:54:03 wow 19:54:04 s 19:54:11 grunt 19:54:13 dude 19:54:14 incredible power 19:54:16 it worked 19:54:20 the power of door 19:54:24 and eats adventurers 19:54:28 !killratio xtahua 19:54:30 xtahua wins 1.407% of battles. 19:54:32 it's abysmal 19:54:43 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:47 lobf: \o/ 19:54:47 -!- bh has quit [Changing host] 19:54:47 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:51 Grunt: How would I update this version, though? 19:55:13 lobf: git pull, and then build/install using the same command I just gave you. 19:55:14 !killratio Sonja 19:55:14 -!- thedefinite has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 19:55:16 Sonja wins 1.483% of battles. 19:55:30 I cd into ~/DCSS? 19:55:34 and git pull 19:55:36 !killratio Cerebov 19:55:39 Cerebov wins 5.686% of battles. 19:55:44 lobf: no, cd into wherever you just built the game :) 19:55:44 recompile with the same directory? 19:55:47 !killratio natasha 19:55:47 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:55:48 right 19:55:49 natasha wins 3.438% of battles. 19:55:51 that’s where I just built it 19:55:57 !killratio Grinder 19:56:00 Grinder wins 23.39% of battles. 19:56:04 natasha is early game so her killratio is inflated. likewise grinder 19:56:18 inflated relative to later uniques, e.g. xta 19:56:20 !killratio Jorgrun 19:56:20 !tell dpeg I'm sorry, I don't recall. Check the spreadsheet? I don't think it's particularly important. We have a huge corpus to draw from. 19:56:21 bh: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 19:56:22 Jorgrun wins 3.736% of battles. 19:56:25 hm, there is no way of decreasing your XL currently other than being a felid and dying, right? 19:56:32 !killratio jessica 19:56:35 kinda surprised about sonja's killratio 19:56:35 jessica wins 6.342% of battles. 19:56:40 elliptic: Since draining was removed, no. 19:56:46 crap, crawl players are awful 19:56:47 Grunt: Do I need to do the entire new command you gave me? Or can I just go with “APPLE_GCC=y NO_PKGCONFIG=y CONTRIB_SDL=y TILES=y” after I git pull? 19:56:51 well, there was also wraith card for some time 19:56:51 draining was removed?! 19:56:52 !lg * killer=jessica max=xl 19:56:53 wow. 19:56:53 15566. Kidiri the Ruinous (L9 DsFE), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) (kmap: tgw_sif) on D:8 on 2013-05-09 14:09:32, with 3524 points after 12519 turns and 1:15:36. 19:56:56 draining was changed 19:56:58 how 19:57:02 not removed 19:57:06 !lg * killer=jessica max=xl -tv 19:57:07 15566. Kidiri, XL9 DsFE, T:12519 requested for FooTV (telnet://termcast.develz.org or http://termcast.develz.org). 19:57:27 %git :/[Ww]raith card 19:57:29 07MarvinPA02 * 0.14-a0-3520-g290746a: Adjust some deck of Punishment cards 10(8 days ago, 1 file, 3+ 4-) 13http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=290746a59a81 19:57:51 bh: \shock{Crawl players who consistently die in the early game}{consistently die early} 19:57:56 until then, you could decrease XL that way 19:58:06 answer: a series of very poor decisions 19:58:34 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 19:58:41 >dying to invisible jessica after getting whacked by a goliath beetle real good 19:58:47 hilarious 19:59:41 I figured out that question, Grunt :) 19:59:44 But thanks 20:01:06 -!- wheals has joined ##crawl-dev 20:03:11 lobf: you'll want the entire command, yes, sorry! 20:03:17 No worries 20:03:35 if I copy the git to the new directory I think I can use the simpler command’ 20:03:49 -!- CKyle has joined ##crawl-dev 20:05:51 Add a new hit message for yaks by josh 20:06:12 ...hah 20:06:24 interesting 20:06:37 can we add MONS_BIKESHED? 20:06:44 fr: make that only happen if lang = LANG_GRUNT 20:06:49 FEAT_BIKESHED surely 20:07:01 BR_BIKESHED 20:07:02 the problem with adding mons_bikeshed is deciding on the glyph color 20:07:05 elliptic: no way, it's gotta be MONS_BIKESHED 20:07:08 or GOD_BIKESHED 20:07:08 contains bike enemies 20:07:15 GOD_BIKESHED could work, yes 20:07:19 PleasingFungus: ETC_XOM 20:07:21 remove beogh 20:07:29 imo GOD_BEOGHSHED 20:07:31 /etc/xom 20:07:41 Zannick: we should make that kernel module. 20:07:52 that's way funnier than my "What's the weather" file system 20:08:05 reading from it causes Xom to act. 20:08:34 or is that /var/xom? 20:08:57 hm. i don't know 20:08:58 cat /dev/random > /var/xom ?? 20:09:06 * Zannick -> 20:10:24 -!- JoshTriplett has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:38 I just posted a patch to the patch tracker; is there anything special I need to do other than posting it there, such as mentioning it here or on a mailing list somewhere? 20:11:44 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=8348 20:11:56 Our bot mentions mantis issues here, so you don't need to call further attention to it :) 20:12:11 Ah, great. 20:12:12 Thanks! 20:12:18 -!- Quazifuji has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:12:58 -!- trystero_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:14:15 -!- emagenta has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:14:36 -!- JoshTriplett has left ##crawl-dev 20:17:58 -!- Cabadath has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:20:54 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 20:23:22 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:07 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 20:25:28 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: good night] 20:25:32 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:30:09 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:31:46 -!- Lasty1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:53 -!- alefury has quit [] 20:43:30 -!- Lysalla has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:44:31 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:47:58 -!- PleasingFungus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:57:10 -!- Lasty1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:05:09 -!- archaeo has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:34 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:05:57 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:05 Rakshasa duplicates enemy battlesphere by archaeo 21:09:36 -!- rchandra has left ##crawl-dev 21:13:43 -!- KurzedMetal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:18:25 -!- tcjsavannah has quit [Quit: tcjsavannah] 21:18:29 -!- rossi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:19:12 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:19:38 -!- SkaryMonk2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:21:32 -!- ssheafer_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:33 -!- HDA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:24:58 -!- Arkaniad has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:27:08 -!- MiraclePrism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:31:37 -!- Fhqwhgads_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 21:32:58 -!- Eonwe2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:33:38 -!- mamgar has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:25 anyone have any thoughts about when would be a good time to post a tournament announcement on the CDO blog? 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(source = (0,0)) (Shoals:4) 23:07:38 !crashlog rolland 23:07:38 1. Rolland, XL16 MfTm, T:31576 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Rolland/crash-Rolland-20140404-040407.txt 23:09:31 -!- OCTOTROG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:01 -!- Krakhan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10:10 -!- NomadJim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:37 -!- rossi_ has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3] 23:15:47 -!- rast- has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:13 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:17:22 -!- rast- is now known as rast 23:18:31 elliptic: 0.13.2 is probably going to happen once I figure out what the best way to distribute builds for that is. If you want more details on the tournament to be on the blog, go right ahead and do that. 23:18:46 -!- SkaryMonk2 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:19:52 what will .13.2 have that .13.1 doesn't? 23:19:58 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:20:22 !tell |amethyst What do you think would be the best way to get 0.13.2 builds (whenever those are a thing) up on the sf.net project page? If it's me building them, the simplest way for that to happen might be for me to get at the project myself (presumably between you and dpeg you can figure out how to do that). 23:20:23 Grunt: OK, I'll let |amethyst know. 23:20:27 rast: bugfixes. 23:20:49 can you throw the change to enemy summons in too and call it a bugfix? 23:21:06 That isn't a bugfix, sadly :( 23:21:21 damn 23:21:28 we were this close to the perfect version of crawl 23:22:15 -!- CKyle has quit [Quit: CKyle] 23:24:01 -!- minmay has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:24:23 -!- NilsBloodaxe_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:24:30 -!- minqmay has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:26:25 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:26:56 -!- ayutzia is now known as ayutzia_ 23:37:14 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:37:46 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:20 hm 23:42:40 ? 23:42:53 Assuming we get the build upload thing figured out, maybe we can do the 0.14 release next Wednesday or Thursday or so? 23:43:01 (a day or two before the tournament start) 23:50:38 -!- NilsBloodaxe has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]